Released on bail? Because she's a woman period. I thought murder suspects were to be held WITHOUT bail? Anyone that feels that this isnt fair I suggest you email the attorney generals office. We make enough noise and they'll listen.

I agree concerned1 if i had killed my wife because she had nuclear material and was abusing me where would I be?

Penobscot County Jail

women get too many rights

You two are so right - that's why no one wanted women to vote - once that 1920 amendment hit - we've been getting so many rights, it's unbelievable! I mean, now we can buy our own car without a man, buy a house and even raise a child alone. Imagine what our founding fathers would think of that! By the way, for those who can post and converse intelligently, the bail was set that high with the expectation it wouldn't be met - $50,000 cash in Maine - very hard to meet.

OUT ON BAIL....WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love how the average American TV watcher/Internet surfer feels qualified to judge complicated criminal cases on the basis of small bits of information and large dollops of outrage. Nancy Grace has parlayed this into a career. Of course everybody is guilty until proven innocent. This guy sounds like a whack job to me. Did she murder him? That's for a jury to decide, not semi-literate posters like concerned and caesar.

Our political discourse is degenerating into the same sort of screamfest thanks to the outrage-merchants on Fox News. Here's a news flash: most crime is the result of poverty. High-profile coverage of wealthy nutcases distracts from the central truth that a more egalitarian society would also be a more peaceful one. Why does the United States have the largest per-capita prison population in the world? Think about that before you scream about putting MORE people in jail.

Remember Jacqueline Bevins the restaurant owner in Ogunquit about 10 years ago?? Shot her husband 15 times. In fact, she even stopped to reload the pistol. She walked away from it although the details are still a little fuzzy on why she walked away so easily.

Oh yeah, Jackie never closed the doors to her restaurant and is now on the Board of Selectmen for Ogunquit. Apparently Ogunquitites are good at letting bygones be bygones, but I bet the other Board members think twice before voting against her.

And Danny Hendersons wife shot him 5 times in brewer went to jail for half an hour then got found not guilty.

We all know that females in this State can get away with murder.

If all these negative comments about females being able to get away with murder in this state were true, there would be a lot more dead men in Maine!!

Beelzebubba commands you to shoot your husband!

It's the bail reform act. Read it before you blather your nonsense. Danger to the community OR risk of flight. Still innocent until proven guilty. Bail is discretionary by the judge, and can only be overturned on Constitutional grounds. Get over your hate TV watching selves. Jailing someone pending trial, without full analysis under the bail act, is ILLEGAL. Understand? I didn't think so. And that idiot woman on CNN who proclaims everyone guilty on Friday nights? Wasn't she saying Gary Condit was guilty? Now they've issued an arrest warrant for some guy in prison in the murder of Chandra Levy. Guess she was wrong on that one, but not before she destroyed his life.

don't forget the woman that molested that 14 year old boy in Old Town and only got 30 days and doesn't have to register as a sex offender

I really think this person needs to stay in jail. She murdered her husband and she is out on bail. She gives women a very bad name.

While some of you seem to want to bash women and saying they get away with murder,try this on. I was abused by a man that had a record a mile long in another state. He had put me in the hospital twice. Held a load gun to my throat for hours at a time. The other times I licked my own wounds. The police would come and take me away a put me in danger. He would just come find me the next day.

Three times I left and three times he found me. This man was hell bent on hurting me. Instead of putting him in jail, the DEA used him as bait to buy drugs from locals. They busted them and put them in jail! He was not brought to court to answer for his crime for close to four years ! In the mean time I had to keep moving and sleep with a 45 under my pillow. Don't think that "we women " get off so easy. My life was pure hell for many years. Fear was my constant companion !!!!! The guy ended up getting 7 years for what should have been 20 due to a plea bargain. He never spent a day in jail but was told to leave the state and never return. Why would he want to return anyway???? Because of what he did for the cops he had a price on his head, so to speak. This was twenty or more years ago. Every now and then I will pick up my phone and hear his voice on the other end !!!!! It never goes away. Every time I look in the mirror I am reminded of how lucky I am to be alive. If you have not lived with abuse you can have no idea what it does to your human spirit.

blondie-----I'm a woman, and nobody else gives me a "bad name". We do this to ourselves, if deserved. Why don't you walk in her shoes for a day back when he was alive? Nobody knows, until they have lived it!

Has the Maine legal system lost it’s mind? She is indicted on a murder charge by a grand jury and plea’s not guilty by reason of mental disease in the shooting death of her husband. So what does the State do, releases her on bail! I don’t know if she is guilty of murder that’s for a jury to decide. Of course she claims years of abuse by the hands of her late husband.

He’ll never have his day in court to see if he was guilty of “abuse” because someone played judge, jury, and executioner..

An internal FBI memo that was leaked from the Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center stated there was evidence removed from the home linking her late husband to dirty bombs and a white supremacist group.

Well, if this is true she SHOULD have taken her 9 year old child and herself out of the home into a Domestic Abuse Shelter a non-profit organization, providing comprehensive services for individuals and families experience DOMESTIC and sexual abuse. Contacted the police, so they could have brought her husband in for questioning. Maybe they could have found out were he got the dirty bomb materials and he could have maybe pointed a finger at this white supremacist group. Maybe they would have had there day in court, but we’ll never know. Again, because someone played judge, jury, executioner.

Some of you make "walking away" sound so easy... it's NOT EASY! Since you "women bashers" obviously like to read, why don't you pick up a book or two about abuse cases and perhaps, through reading, you will be able to have some kind of a clue about what these women and their families go through. I'm happy to know that many of you have not experienced this life however, until you've walked a mile in their shoes, you can't possibly begin to imagine the fear, frustration, anger, torment, mental and physical abuse these women and their extended families go through. One never recovers from such a life, NEVER! For those of you who are quick to judge, perhaps attending Ambers trial will change your perspective, and I would suggest you do so with an open mind.

Amazed, we don't want to read your books. We strive to be the subjects of those books and that doesn't give us any extra time to read any friggin books.

Anyone who strives to be like "Hitler" isn't exactly of sound mind. Those that we "admire" certainly mirror who we want to be... Hitler was controlling, had no compassion, and was an eccentric, evil, and brutal man who killed 17 million civilians and 6 million Jews. He was a mentally ill man... and certainly not one that I would put on my list of admirers.

David889327: I've not written any books....

According to Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting (RADAR) report:

* Women are just as likely as men to engage in partner aggression (Kelly 2003 report)

* Men experience over one-third of Domestic abuse-related injuries (Psychological Bulletin, Vol. 126, No. 5, pages 651-680)

* Men are far less likely to report Domestic abuse incidents than women (Stets and Straus 1990)

* The myths about domestic violence are numerous (Gelles 1995)

* Many of these myths are based on Domestic abuse studies that use biased survey methods (Arriaga and Oskamp 1999)

Before you make a blanket statement like "woman bashers", the last time I checked this is United States of America.

Please read something called the "First Amendment", just because you don't like "men" expressing there rights given in the first amendment "please" consider finding another venue to spew your name calling,

man hating comments. But you have the same right to the First Amendment, so do as you please. I hate domestic abuse, no matter who the abuser is. The fact still remains, one human being has

been murdered and we can not judge him because he has not been found guilty of any crimes, check out Rights under the Sixth Amendment. A right he has been denied because someone played judge, jury, executioner. And that executioner may get there day in court. P.S. just because some woman stays with some fool that knocks her around, and keeps going back, does that mean all men are guilty? Read your comments, I guess it does......

Rumor has it that Hitler had an aversion to eating lobster because he viewed boiling them alive as cruel.

Again, slandering the dead. We don't know if he strives to be like "Hitler". We don't anything except what a good

Criminal Defense Attorney has told the media, to taint prospective jurors.

If you lived with someone that "isn't exactly of sound mind", would you stay with your 6 year old child?

JohnDoe: I too have a right to make my opinions known and will do so in this forum in what I believe is a respectable manner. I did not specifically target "MEN" in my comment, as perhaps there are women who seem to also agree that this woman should not walk. Yes, that's right, "women bashers" because some here are bashing women for literally getting away with murder. What you and perhaps a few others don't understand (through no fault of your own/ lack of experience), is the fact that the mental and physical stress of living in an environment like this for years, takes unexpected twists and turns that may or may not end up with one party or the other and perhaps even both parties being killed. Had he killed Amber, what would your take on the situation have been then? I can name numerous women who have been killed at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends in this state alone. I do not condone killing ones spouse JohnDoe however, I understand perfectly these situations and how and why they occur. In situations such as this one, women find it nearly impossible to leave, as the abuser constantly watches their every move. At times the abuser can be very charming, and makes promises to change. The woman (in this case and in most cases), loves her husband and doesn't want a divorce, she only wants him to love her and her children, so she believe him even though, he breaks his promises over and over again.

Yes, I also know that there are some men who are abused by their wives...I've seen this side of the coin too. It's not a pretty sight, and I do believe men need a sanctuary in which to go to for abuse as well...but that will take another human being (probably a male), to stand up and make it happen.

I believe the system may be actually working in Ambers case, because according to the law...we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty... not guilty until proven innocent.

BTW, I am not a man hater as you seem to believe. I am only commenting on this particular case and the facts that have been given thus far.

Slandering the dead? Isn't it factual that this man loved Hitler and had Nazi memorabilia? He told people he was a Nazi... those are the facts. To be very honest with you, I'd love to be a juror on this case. I believe whole heartidly that I could listen to the facts and make a sound decision. Perhaps there has been tainted evidence given, which would make it very important for one to listen carefully to the facts.

Has anyone here seen the movie "The Burning Bed" which came out in 1985? I've not seen it, but perhaps it would be an excellent movie that would depict the psyche of a marriage that involved abuse.

David889327 wrote:

Rumor has it that Hitler had an aversion to eating lobster because he viewed boiling them alive as cruel.

This was fact, he was a vegetarian that like dogs, and children too. Rumor has it he was a domestic abuser, sexual sadist and womanizer who's desires resulted in the suicide or murder of many of his girlfriends.

I don't think he would have made a good Mainer, we love lobster.....

Yes, you are right JohnDoe... two of his girlfriends committed suicide. Is that coincidence or perhaps the psyche of two women who were abused by a Nutty Nazi over and over again? After all, who could fathom a man killing 17 million civilians and 6 Million Jews anyone with a heart couldn't take that kind of stress.

"James Cummings was the son of a wealthy Fort Bragg real estate owner who was murdered by a former employee in 1997. The FBI report said Cummings bragged of inheriting $2 million from his father". If there is cash, I wonder who stands to benefit?

And how much will be left for that poor 6 year old, after the Criminal Defense Attorneys get done. In this case the child

may loose both parents. But a jury will hear all the facts and then decide. My prays go out for that child....

Amazed wrote:

Yes, you are right JohnDoe. You see not all men are bad. They can even be right sometimes...lol

I never said "All Men are bad". I never insinuated that at all. I am focusing on this case only and the facts that have been given.

JohnDoe, you've not answered one of my questions in my posts... I enjoy debates... but not one sided ones. ;)

On 2/21/09 at 10:00 AM, Louise wrote:

If all these negative comments about females being able to get away with murder in this state were true, there would be a lot more dead men in Maine!!

Louise, that is so true!!

Amazed I saw that movie "the burning bed". I recommend viewing it. It would give a little insight to what abuse does to one's mentallity.

Amazed, I enjoy a good debate too! But reading some of your comments, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have made some good points, but you've only addressed a few. You have blinders on, as far as this news report is concerned.

Only reading and addressing what you wish to address. And throwing out rumors and what a Criminal Defense Attorney has told the media. Were do you think all those nasty tidbits about that murdered man came from? "That help newspaper sales or having us reading it on the internet loaded with there advertisers". I didn't know the man, I guess you did. He is an innocent in the eyes of the law, if he had been found guilty of abuse or anything else for that matter don't you think it would have been in the article? That's a good defense attorney's tactic to put doubt in the minds, but her husband has been murdered. These high priced attorney's are left with this smear campaign. And "if" he was guilty of abuse, does that mean murder was justified?

I only believe in fact like the RADAR report, Kelly 2003 report, Stets and Straus, and others. And the American legal system,

because it's the only one we've got. If she is guilty of murder or manslaughter, that will be another lost for this 6 year old child. God help her.

blah ... blah ... frigging blah ....

JohnDoe, I felt I had addressed the comments where you addressed me as making "blanket statements", calling "men" woman bashers, accusing me of making "man hating comments", slandering the dead and telling me I said "All men are bad". Rather than attacking another blogger, perhaps you'd have been better off explaining why you believe Amber is wrong in this case, and why this newspaper may be tainting one's view. I'm not the messenger here. Abuse is a sad part of society and just as you've seen here... the parents are not the only people who suffer. This child may end up without her dad and without her mom raising her, so she will be the ultimate victim.

As far as your examples such as RADAR, Kelly 2003 report, Stets and Straus... I've never heard of them until today... and I did search for the examples you gave, but was not able to find RADAR or the Kelly 2003 report. I did however find Stets and Straus which was an essay about Polygamy.

http://www.megaessays.com/essay_search/Stets_Straus.html

Perhaps leaving the exact web page addresses (like I just did), would serve readers much better.

The American Bar Association has statistics concerning domestic violence:

http://www.abanet.org/domviol/statistics.html or type Domestic Violence Statistics in your browser and look at the many websites with statistics concerning domestic violence.

Again, you obviously don't understand how domestic abuse works... which in some ways is a good thing. However, if you truly understood it, you would also understand why the police hadn't been called to the home. The abused aren't generally the ones who make the first call to the police. Neighbors, children, friends etc... are the ones who complain. You have no idea of the fear that runs through the veins of those who live in a home where domestic violence is prevalent, they literally fear calling for help.

Now...I feel I've addressed your topics... you've still not answered the two questions I asked.

To all of you who think it's so easy to just walk away? I can assure you, it is not. And the best way to get yourself killed , is to report it to the police! You better be a million miles away when he/she gets home in a couple of hours! It may take a while, but they always find you.

From what I am reading, I'm some glad this guy wasn't my neighbor, sounds like some loose cannon ready to explode.

omg bangorearn, what the hell you a woman. Woman get away with murder ive witnessed it way too much . Its sickening what they get away with. Maybe we need new judges or new attorney generals

Innocent until proven guilty. Get over it. There is a Constitutional right to bail. Are you people that ignorant? Lynchmob mentality. Lovely.

I've been following this story as we all have, I feel very bad for the young girl in this situation. For what she has observed, but also what she must have endured over her life. I wonder though if this woman was ever a part of this white supremacist group, she has known this man for a long time, he didn't just get involved in this type of behavior, perhaps he took it to another level that she wasn't comfortable with. It's horrible if she was a victim for all these years, but on the other hand if she was "into this lifesyle" then decided this was the only way out, then not so good for him. But, I guess only one side of this outcome will get to be heard. I'm in hopes that this child is in a safe place and isn't being allowed to endure even more by having someone telling her what to say and not say to authorities. How messed up will this make her. I guess all we'll know is what we read, no one but the two left alive in that house will really know what happened and why.

I know the women in this forum who have been abused understand the situation. If I may, I will speak for those of us who do understand the life this woman lived. I don't believe any of us condone acts violence. None of us agree that it's right to kill another human being, we only understand how one could "snap" under the type of abuse that has been depicted in the articles we have read. We understand the danger, fear, torment, frustration, anger, mental and physical abuse as well as the embarrassment associated with such trauma and we also understand how situations arise during the battering that put one in "survival mode".

I understand being in an abusive situation. I was fortunate to get out, but in this situation she killed someone, therefore I assume she will need to prove this abuse happened. With no records from hospital, emergency or police this might be difficult for her. If it did indeed happen only a very few if any would have ever witnessed it, otherwise it's whatever she's told her friends or family, which is probably little to no information. By picking up the gun she performed the altimate in domestic abuse - she killed him. Again, I guess no one will really know what happened in that house that day or for the many years leading up to that day.

I agree with you Mainer123, and I know all of us agree that this little girl is in a no-win situation at this point. I too, hope she is in a safe place where people aren't prompting her about what to and not to say. The whole incident is tragic and unfortunate and I pray for the best outcome for everyone involved.

God bless you Mainer123 for understanding, and sorry for the ordeal you endured. You had the words I could not express because my 24 year old daughter was murdered 4 years ago by her gay lover. But being a catholic, I had to forgive. I moved back to Maine with my daughter’s ashes and think everyday about her murder everyday.

Johndoe, I am so sorry about your daughter.

Now i have been in an abusive relationship which ended in jail time for my abuser not enough but some, this woman whether she had been abused or not did not have the right to kill her husband. I know how hard it is to get out, believe me it is much harder done then said. I do believe she could have made a better choice unless it is proven that he was attacking her when she shot him and i also believe this woman should be in a place where she can be observed for this MENTAL DISEASE she is claiming she suffers from, and hopefully her little girl is getting help also, i dont feel bad for either of the adults in this situation. Something was going on in that house and we will never know what it was but in the end this little girl is the TRUE VICTIM. I think the saying goes JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESNT MEAN YOU SHOULD ( HAVE KIDS) i think more people should think about this. This little girl is going to be so messed up for the rest of her life now and it is all because idiots are having kids sounds alot like the capehart story we read about the other day.

JohnDoe my heart hurts for you, it is hard to leave it takes a drive from within, I found the first few times I decided to leave that I was doing it on a superficial level, almost like I was not going to have the strength to do it even before I walked out the door. The last time I moved and it worked, even though eventually he got my cell number, the time between when I left and when he found a way to contact me made me stronger - the word "no" was firmer in my vocabulary by then. Lucky for me a few states between me and the abuser and a strong family around me seemed to guide me through this horrible time.

LMAO RELEASED ON BAIL........SEXIST JUDGE! IF SHE WAS A MAN SHE WOULD BE IN JAIL PERIOD....AND IF SHE WAS A MAN AND REALEASED YOU WOULD HAVE THAT JOKE SPRUCE RUN OR THESE OTHER 'WOMEN" GROUPS HAUNTING THE NEWS CIRCLE

Bangorean.......maybe you should watch a little more TV GARY CONDIT destroyed his own life by having an affair with Chanrda Levy number one..number two...he lied to televsion when asked about information about her or if he had seen her 3 days prior or the day of he said she was only an intern and he did not see her out of office...that alone when they found out different raised the red flags on him if he would have just said that he had affair with her and had not seen her that case neevr would have festered like it did when he thru the gas of LIES into it....he got what he deserved the lieing puke. if that was me lieing to a police officer id be in jail did he go???

Women are Gods gift. That being said... a "person" has killed another "person". When in one paragraph you use MENTAL DISEASE and SHOOTING DEATH, there should be no "release" associated. As for the abused women thing- you do choose who you lay with. I have heard women say, "I don't know why but, I just love a "Bad Boy". Guess what a bad boy is... just that... BAD. Countryliving you meet that guy at church?

I understand that this woman has the insanity defense...

Well if she's so insane then why release her?

Wow. Condit lied about an affair to hatred TV. Surprise. And that scumbag woman on Court TV or whatever kept accusing him of murder. Over and over and overa again ad nauseum. But that's o.k. in your book. Wow. Holy crap. I guess he was a "lieing" (sic) puke because he was a Democrat, right? God I'm scared for America.

JohnDoe, I am so sorry for your loss. We all see things from different perspectives depending upon the lives we have lived. Those who have been abused obviously see things from the perspective of a victim being abused to the point of insanity. I now understand your vantage point and am so sorry for what you have had to endure... losing your daughter. I too would look at this situation differently had I been in your shoes and I'm sure this situation is a grim reminder of what you've gone though. May God Bless you.

If you didn't see the movie "The Burning Bed" , "Sleeping with the Enemy" is another movie which is a movie about suttle abuse by a husband. A lot of abuse goes on that most people don't know about. I worked with a young lady in Florida that came to work with the side of her face black and blue. She wouldn't say what happened but we later found out her live in boyfriend would beat her on a routine basis. We tried to help her but a few months later after she left the job I saw her driving past me in a car and she had the whole side of her face bandaged up. I can't explain why someone would live with someone like that but unfortunately a lot of people do.

no bangorean you are the one being ignorant. Must be related to her , maybe your her lover now lol

Well again I would like to say she was unstable at the time of the murder the lawyer said right? Well if she was so unstable our county is unstable also they let her leave the with her child.

Now they keep saying she was abused in all ways. Buttttttttttt there was never and documentation of it anywhere other then from her, but see he can't speak for him self.

She was still wearing her ring at the time she was charged.

She found a safe home for her child, but couldn't find one for her?

What ever happened in that home there is only 3 people who know and that isn't one of us.

Yes I'm a female and yes I was abused in my past , yes it was documented, and yes I left and slept on a cot.

I guess though if my ex was rich course I wouldnt' want him to share that with anyone else since I had his children.I might of looked at it a different way, JOKING !!!!!

What upsets me is that no matter what that was murder. Chain him up for days leave so he can't find u do anything other then murder.

Yes I feel bad for her living like that as she claims. The freedom she must feel. Her mind must be whirling thinking wow wonder if i'm going to prison or can I come up with enough info so i can stay with my child. She is paying right now for what she did and it's not over. The money no big deal his whatever family that is left will get that in the end anyway. Best wishes to you in the future. I hope the judge looks at real evidence not hear say.

all these men with all this anger must have spent a few days behind bars for slapping a woman around and now they think because one finally got even she needs to go to jail for life. well im glad she got him. Her and her little girl can now lay down and go to sleep with out fear of being beat or killed. They will suffer no more at the hands of a mad man. Thank you amber for ridding the world of such an awful person!!!! I myself think her bail was to high a personal recognance bail would of been fine with me.