Whiskey River, take my mind

Don't let a memory talk to me

Whiskey River, don't run dry

I suppose his conditions of release are pretty good (could be far better). House arrest and no driving....at least our children and OUR lives are safe.

But notice how he was required to "APPLY for admission to a substance abuse treatment program"? There is no guarantee that he will even be accepted into it. And if he is, only then is he required to undergo treatment. They cannot MAKE you go to treatment. You have to take the first step, and only then can they ENFORCE it. Funny, that's what I was saying on the previous article. None of you believed me......I guess I am pretty smart, Kevin.

He looks like hell in this picture. Maybe seeing this picture in tomorrows paper will be a wake-up call for him. I doubt it, but maybe.

IF HE IS EXCEPTED for treatment.... HE WILL have to take treatment or jail.........and after two OUI'S who wont say he needs treatment,,,LOL so they can force u in treatment or jail...

What a shame...here is a man who's whole life is going down the drain...and he can't seem to do nothing about it....I know he brought it on himself...what a shame.

He's obviously mocking the police and the courts.....He will get behind the wheel again drunk and this time kill someone...this man lost his power and now he is on a down hill spiral and my fear is he will hurt someone doing it. We have not heard the last of this story!

Personally I think all of your comments are missing the boat - If his behavior was just oui's then you would probably be right - but it's not - Two OUI'S - Stealing from Hannafords - Passing Bad Checks - Attempting to defraud The City of Bangor - It appears that there is more here than the obvious - I would suggest an MRI of the head - Also he could be suffering from mental degeneration that is no fault of his own - These test should be mandatory - Mr. Greene lives alone - I hope there is some sort of 24 hour supervision to keep him off the road - He is apparently a high rick to the general public & himself - Thinkaboutit

Gracie I don't think he is mocking anyone. He was a business man with a family and a nice home. Somewhere along the line he came unglued and has come into some hard times, personally as well as financially. I think he needs help and being front page news all the time isn't doing much for him OR his son and daughter. Nothing he has done would be capture this much attention if it was some other random person doing it. If you can't give him a break, give his kids one.

kate123 your wrong about the nice home, it was put up for auction, he use to live in my neighborhood, thank heavens he's gone. He is not a nice man he is self centered, arrogant, thinks he's above the law and he can just help himself to anything of anyone elses. He would sneer in your face and talk down to you like you had an iq of 60 even when you'd tell him to get off your property and stop snooping through your things.This is just an act. This is what happens when someone is allowed to get their own way all the time and not pay consequences of their actions. He was un glued as you put it 15 years ago and likely before . What he needed was a good whipping a long time ago. I don't feel bad at all but this will set the example for all others who get in the same boat, free baby sitters, low bail money, a free ride around town. He's had too many breaks and thats why he keeps doing it, he is mocking anf thembing his nose at all of us.

Kate123.....If you can't give him a break, give his kids one..are you kidding me? How many breaks has this guy had? If he were a random person he would have been locked up long ago.... and as far as his kids...he's the one screwing up. You think he needs help? It's bleeding hearts like yours that guys like him pray on..... Boo-hoo lock his a$$ up until his court day. Gracie is right, we have'nt heard the last of this guy.

I think the Bangor Daily News needs to set the bar a bit higher on what they chose to report. Anyone can see there is a serious issue here and has no need to be continuously reported in this newspaper. How about repeat reports on someone who does something good around here?? Set a better example on how people should treat one another....Someone with a mental illness should not be headline news.

I think we need to be informed when a person continues to do dangerous things that could affect the lives of innocent people. He does not have mental illness other than being self serving, but I think you might look at this different if you or your loved ones were hurt or killed by this guy. If a person is mentally ill why are they driving anyway?

If the man cared about his kids he wouldn't have set this example, or humilate them with continued public misbehavior. Letting him off the hook is why he is where he is now. He asked for it, he wanted his own way and now he has it. He's been doing this crap for years because he's been allowed to get away with it. Besides how many drinks does it take to put you over the legal limit, 2 or 3 depending on your size and weight. 3 drinks does not make the man have a drinking problem by social drinking defination.

The bars will get another busy day today after St. Patricks yesterday...all of the "off duties" will be out there drinking, waiting for their chance to spot Mr. Greene breaking his bail again...can you say 3 times in a week...it could happen....but you can be sure that the roads won't be too safe later on with our Finest out there having some pops and wooping it up after a tough day chasing all of the Irish....I'm still steaming over the "off duty" who ratted out Mr. Greene for his second oui.......what a scum bag he is.....pick on someone your own size...get a life and live and let live....I've known cops all of my life and they like to get loaded and drive around more than anybody.....and then they get their jollies by ruining others lives with oui arrests when many could be avoided by a little common sense and compassion...whatever happened to a cop driving someone home to their door and hiding their car keys for the night........no, not in these times, too many MADD's out there..........hey, this is real life, stuff happens, live with it and quit picking on people who are living their own lives......bottom line...Mr. Greene didn't hurt anybody........but wow, he could have, right...blah, blah, blah.......All of you MADD's might want to take look around some pubs today, especially those Fraternal Organizations......can you say Elks, Eagles????...You might spot some of your heros......the "off duties."...........sorry for a little realism..........

So it will be 3 times this week or maybe he will kill a innocent victim? You can complain about the cops looking out for him all you want tcollins but if i see him near any place in Bangor or any other town for that matter which servs alcohol i will be doing the calling myself !!!

What a loser and a blemish to society!!

To IshouldhaveaV8...yeah ok...why don't you go sit in a bar and then call the police on anyone you see having a couple of drinks.....get a life...the state sells alcohol, loves the profits, the waitresses and bar tenders will do anything to drive up the tab...especially with a couple more beers on the tab...and then if some poor guy is over the limit he is the cancer of society......then the state comes in again with mandatory counseling programs for the convicted oui citizen...usually a fine person, who pays taxes and goes to work every day....it's a really nice circle for certain elements....just keep pushing it....maybe you need the government to tell you when to go use the wash room..............

He needs help. Where are his family members? Cant they recognize the signs of an alcoholic and a drug addict? I helped a family member of mine to get into treatment two weeks ago and he said i saved his life!

Does anyone know where I can get some green pabst today?? I think we should celbrate like they do in some Middle Eastern cultures..A wedding, have the ceremony and then celebrate for a few days; A funeral, morn and then celebrate for a few days; A birth, rejoice and then celebrate for a few days...hic...

tcollins...are you serious? Blaming everyone but the one drinking .....you WERE kidding right??????

So Scint, did his kids talk down to you too? And which neighborhood did you live in his old one on Mt. Hope or the new one on Essex? I knew him and his first wife when they came to the pediatricians office I worked at. They were very nice. Her more so then him but whatever. He took my daughters graduation pictures when he moved to the new location with the new wife. She didn't seem to have much of a personality. But I didn't have to live with either one of them. My point is he has two kids and they have done nothing wrong. And his houses were nice when I was there. What happened the last few years I don't know. But the man has problems.

OBVIOUSLY A CRY FOR HELP

POOR GUY

HAVING TO SIT IN JAIL ON ST. PADDY'S DAY

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No his kids did not talk down to me, but I live near his Ex- Essex St. house. He has had break after break and he gets worse because he's allowed to, this is teaching his kids that they are allowed to do this too. Do I want this man driving up and down a road I have to live on hurting or killing me and family and friends Hell No. One of my parents works out near the Odlin and I don't want this guy hurting them either. My spouse works near there too,I work out near there as well, so now that doubles my spouses and my risk of getting killed or crippled by him and now you can't even sue him because he has nothing. You think I should concern myself with his kids at the expense of my life or my parent or spouse? Did he care that he was risking the lives of those I love, no and I it see like this he treats people the way he wants to be treated, he didn't care about me and mine and wants me not to care about him and his and as I said before , he got his own way, got what he wanted. I don't put other peoples kids a head of my family or me, I don't dislike kids , I'm not thoughtless of kids but no ones kids are more important to me than me and mine.

Greene needs to grow up and be responsible letting him off the hook is not doing that.

I hope you never fall on hard times. Or if you do your not splattered all over the news and papers for your children to see and have all of their friends see. If you can't see that Greene has a problem then I guess that is your shortsightedness. I am not saying his actions should go unpunished but he needs and should have counsiling.

Thinkaboutit, I was thinking the same thing. It seems there may be more to his story than what is obvious. I hope he finds the support he needs, and is able to get some help.

I think it is time to set some of the record straight. As a very good friend of Richard's second wife (who, Kate, you obviously never knew, she has a great personality and is a kind, caring person who gives alot back to this community just like Richard did when he was well) you all need to back off this man. He has made some terrible mistakes and he does need to pay for them. However, I do know how hard his second wife worked to try to get him help when she noticed him slipping. We had several conversations late at night when she was trying to figure out how to get the mental health system to help.

She had him agree to go to Acadia in January. Of course, once he was there he did not want to stay, but the doctor on duty said he had to stay until they figured out what was going on with him. The next day a new doctor was on duty and he decided to let Richard go without any testing done at all. Nothing..no evaluations, no nothing. His wife worked diligently trying to find someone who could help. At this time his health insurance had cancelled so his primary care doctor would no longer see him. He had no money to pay so no help. She found a clinic that would base the cost on his income, he went to them twice and they said he was depressed but released him. She then made him go to the emergency room. They waited 28 hours for someone to evaluation him. She had to contact Acadia herself to find out why it was taking so long to see someone, apparently, the hospital they were at never called for someone to come down. There was someone there within minutes. He did go to another hospital out of the area for a week, but again, they released him with a severe diagnosis but no follow-up to help him get into a program near Bangor. None of you know what this woman has been through and have no right to judge. His first wife won't let him see the children. Can you blame her? Probably not, but maybe she should have the kids in counseling along with Richard to rebuild their relationship. They are his family and he needs to know the kids care at this time. I know there are two sides to this story, but put yourself in the place this family is and what would you do? His wife's run out of options. She went to Alanon herself to help deal with this and learned that she cannot help him until he is ready to help him. Hopefully, he is there now. At the very least the court has ordered him to rehab.

Maybe someone out there that has had an addiction would step up and contact Richard and offer to be his sponsor in AA. Has anyone thought of that? Has anyone ever thought this man lost his mom, dad and brother all in a matter of 4 years. He and his first wife were in debt up to their necks. She left, filed bankruptcy and left him with the debt. He was too proud to file so he tried hard to repay everything. But of course, he could not. He tried to be honorable, but unfortunately, with the economy the way it is, he couldn't do it. Obviously the depression worsened with the debt. Come on, someone step up and offer him an emotional hand. Friendship from someone who has been there would be the greatest gift of all. Or are we all so hardened that we just want to condemn everyone that falls..If that is the way this town is, I am ashamed to be part of this community.

I'm not sure that you've done him a great service by sharing the details of his private life in a public forum on the internet.

Bangorian..how can you say that. His whole life and everything that has happened has been a public forum. He is suffering and the mental health system has really let him down. I think we all love to read the negative things but when you hear something that makes you stop and think abit rather than just bashing people, all of a sudden it becomes, oh we don't want to hear this, this should not be made public. Come on!!!

Susan, I was merely sticking up for his kids. I think he needs help, as I have said over and over again, and people need to back off for his kids sake.

Susan789 is right. She's stated the facts of what this man, his wife, his children and extended family have gone through. We now know that the mental health system has let he and his family down on several occasions. His wife must be emotionally and physically exhausted from trying to keep the family above water and it sounds like she has exhausted all avenues to get Richard the help he so desperately needs. She needs to stick with Alanon, she's going to need it more than ever now.

Obviously this man has been mentally ill for a number of years, but with all the challenges he's faced over the past few, the downward spiral into that deep dark well has been fast and furious lately. This just goes to show you that the laws for protecting those who are not mentally able to care for themselves need to be reexamined and tweaked. When one is mentally ill and not able to work, they should not be turned away for the mental health care they need. They are vulnerable and can even be a danger to themselves and to those around them.

I understand this story very well, as I too, have had relatives who've needed mental health care, but have not sought it and instead end up in the court system and jail. This is a very common problem and one that needs to be addressed.

My prayers go out to Richard and his family, because the pain that all of them are feeling, runs very deep. The scars will be permanent... and if Richard doesn't get the proper help, further damage to his children, could go on for many more years.

Thank you, Susan 789. While I think anyone in the area of this man when he is drinking needs to be on the alert, you showed an insight that was compassionate and illuminating...much better and more helpful than all the caustic remarks before your entry. It can not be just the current economy that brings out such bitterness - maybe some warmer weather and sunshine will help people to be nicer. Otherwise, someone needs to close the box on most of the people who write on these blogs.

Kate no one made him steal, no one made him drinking and drive and get picked up 2 days in a row.

Yes I have had hard times, starting with the time I got hit by a drunk un-insured driver, who had to pay the bills? me, who got demoted from missing so much time from work at a 60% cut in pay, me, who lost their home because they couldn't afford to pay for a stupid double wide, me. Not him, but me. After selling my home I didn't have enough money to rent a dirty run down boarding room. Took me 10 years to get back on my feet and start all over because my credit was ruined. Was I depressed, absolutely, especially when he paid a fine that was less then my house payment and didn't go to jail. What I didn't do was say well it's my fault I was driving home after work, I think I'll go steal from people who had nothing to with this then go get drunk and get picked up 2 times in less than 24 hours.The man more than knew about drunk driving. What do you think I had to tell my kids when the school sports and other functions were over for them because there is no money and we don't have a car anymore and can't afford one. How do you think my kids felt when the state says you can't have any help you work and last year you made more than is allowed.

I would not humilate my family on purpose because of my mis-deed by stealing and getting drunk . Geez he was getting paid to steal from us

I did recover, my kids I don't think so much, as they are filled with anger about drunk drivers and the fact that liberals think it's ok to let people like him get away with it. How do I explain to my now near adult children that people want to pity someone because they conscientiously endanger innocent people because he's upset over getting caught stealing, from me which is stealing from them, which is stealing from all the taxpayers in Bangor. The man is pure selfish.

I recovered pretty much but with a hardened heart, I have no sympathy or room to allow another drunk driver in my life.

The man who hit me he already lost everything to a lawsuit because he hit some other innocent person before me and after me.

So Gleanna how would you know if he was driving at you in the dark?

Susan 789.........do you REALLY think Richard or his present wife, want his bio posted here?? Get real.

most of you people do not have a clue.he is a drunk...simple.no mental problems.A DRUNK..his drinking caused his first problem .then more drinking to help cope with the first that doubled with the second,ect,ect.MOST people with an addiction problem want help,but do not know how to ask for it.give the guy a break..alcoholism is not something MOST people asked for.it is in 90 percent of the cases,hereditary.....idiots

i really think bangorian needs a better job than posting on here. Its getting to pretty bad on some and yes susan you shouldnt have posted that. Its very wrong to do that. Would you like me to post your bio

hahahah I like that one BeelzeBubba!!!!!

Maybe I shouldn't have posted this, and I did get a call from one of the family members that was unhappy. But after we talked, they agreed maybe the truth should be out there. There has been so much negativity and incorrect information circulating that I was sick and tired of it. Everything this family has been through has been in the paper, bankruptcy, divorce, foreclosure, stealing, forgery, OUI's...and everytime something new happens, all the previous offenses are rehashed yet again. I am sorry if anyone was offended by the truth, but I think if everyone of you looked into your own lives, there would be things that you did or are currently doing that if you were followed by the news would make great headlines. How would you like your family seeing all your flaws all over the paper and news? And, what about everytime you did something illegal...and l am sure none of you have ever had a couple of beers and drove home...right????? You would be considered drunk by the State standards. Is it right? Absolutely not!!!!! But you all do it. The courts will give him his due for the OUI's...but hopefully as human beings, Richard will be able to get some help and become a better person for it. I think every elementary school should have mental health classes as part of the ciriculum. How many kids do you know that are really messed up due to family issues that will end up in the same place as an adult. Let's find a way to solve the problem for the next generation and fix the system so that people don't end up this far along. Life is not easy people, especially today. Stop the bull and start making a difference. I work in the medical field and believe me...a very high percentage of our patients are currently on some sort of antidepression med. This is life!!!

ty susan for apologizing and i do have sympathy for Mr greene. I really dont believe he forged the city managers signature anyway. I believe The city manager did it and dont want to admit it. Hell, look he brought hollywood slots in and that was a mistake

Susan789~ You actually did damage control when you posted the history. Until people hear the facts, they can't possibly comprehend the many issues this family has faced. Some posters have asked why his family hasn't helped him. Obviously, from what you've told here, his wife has gone to great lengths to help her husband, to no avail. Some have commented that he's mocking the police and the courts... I would agree... he is doing this, however, mental illness causes people to do some very strange things.

OUI's, bad checks, stealing, fraud, financial problems, over indulging in alcohol, driving drunk twice and ignoring the requirements of the court; aren't things a "normal" individual does. I feel badly for his family, and the children need to know that none of this is their fault. They need to know that their dad is ill and desperately needs help. They will also one day realize that many people are very unforgiving and not able to look at their dad as a human being who deserves to be treated with dignity and respect during this very difficult time. Yes, he's been involved in some very risky and unethical behavior and it needs to be addressed by a professional who can help him overcome these issues.

Often times, those that are mentally ill will resort to alcohol or illegal drugs to get them through their rough patches. Often times they are unknowingly, compounding their bad circumstances by drowning themselves in alcohol and drugs . If only we could help these people realize; that what they are really doing is making their situation so much worse by indulging in these activities and not facing the problem or problems at hand. We all agree on one thing and that is; Eventually, Richard will either kill himself or other innocent victims in a drunk driving accident. It seems to me the courts could do something to help this man make the right decisions and get him back on course.

The frustration that we all are feeling over Richard's history is obvious... the man needs help and he's not had a willing mental health doctor agree to hold him and treat him for any length of time, before they let him leave the hospital. If there is any disgrace to be found here, it's in the court system, and the mental health arenas. Get the laws changed to protect the mentally ill from themselves and protect innocent victims from becoming statistics.

I'm surprised that someone calling themselves a 'friend' of the family would post the history of the first wife, second wife, children, divorce, bankruptcy, foreclosure, etc. in a public forum without first getting the approval of the family member who has confided in them. As far as Richard Greene, for those who knew him years ago, this picture in the paper is a far cry from what he used to look like. And I do agree with some of the prior posts on both sides. Yes, the man needs help, and it truly is a shame as there are different degrees of mental illness (for the one who said why is he driving), and it is a shame for his kids to have to see these articles. Not taking away from anyone else who has had prior family troubles and their children have been exposed to family crisis(es), but a compassionate person having gone through their own hell wouldn't wish this on any child. But also, I agree with the posts of this man being arrogant, full of himself and condescending. He certainly has carried himself well above other people in the past. Regardless, I personally do not believe in kicking a person when they're down. I wish the best for him that he is able to get the help he needs. It certainly must be humbling.

superduper, you are exactly right.

Superduper~ After Susan789 posted the facts, people calmed down considerably as they were able to understand the situation much better. Read the prior posts... I think it helped folks to think about what he's really been going through.

Amazed, I've read all the prior posts, maybe you should re-read mine. While I agree that Susan's post does let the general public know, in detail, what he's been going through, I certainly read it myself, that really has nothing to do with my comment. My comment was that I am surprised that a so-called very good friend would take it upon themselves to publicly air these folks private lives without first consulting the person who confided in them.

I want to thank everyone who has understood the situation better since my post. The family has received many calls of support which they greatly needed. Richard is on his way to treatment and finally has medical people willing to help. The court requiring him to do the treatment has helped tremendously. I have been told his is ready to do the work. Let's all pray that this will be the turning point and that eventually he and his chldren will reunite and work through all these issues and enjoy a relationship again. And Kate123, you said all you were trying to do was say you were concerned about the children. That is not what you were saying. You had to add a catty statement saying his new wife "had no personality". What a rotten thing to say about someone you don't even know. I pray that your heart will soften and the catty statements will subside. Maybe you should issue an apology for that statement. I would be interested to see what people would say about you if your name was posted on the site and anyone you had ever known could comment on you and how they feel about you. I bet it would not all be warm and fuzzy with that attitude. And to everyone that felt I overstep my boundaries, everything that I mentioned has been in the BDN...everything except the real story about what is going on. All the illegal activities and unfortunately things have all been in the paper and on the news. I saw the story the day his house was going into foreclosure. There were photos of his home all over the news announcing this.

But, again, thank you everyone for the positive comments and understanding. This is something we all need today. Something positive and a feeling of coming together for a better tomrrow. Let's all pray this is the last story we hear about Richard until there is a positive story to report. I wonder if that will make the news. Probably not. God bless all of you that struggling with addictions and maybe someday Richard will have an inspirational story to tell.

Susan789~ I'm so happy that Richard has agreed to treatment and that things are finally settling down a bit. You truly are a good friend and anyone who saw what you wrote, can see that you were stating facts and protecting the family from those who knew absolutely nothing about the true circumstances but were condemning Richard and his family anyway. If my friend or relative were in these circumstances, I would find it difficult to just sit back and do absolutely nothing to help the situation. Sometimes we just have to stand up and defend those who are unable to defend themselves.