Godfrey says he does not believe Canada will allow passage of LNG tankers through Head Harbor Passage. I say if Canadian government says no to passage we should turn off the nozzle to the pipelines they have running through Maine! That would open their darn eyes a bit!!!!!

Yeah, right, calaisbabe, you'd be cutting off the supply of American consumers who'd end up being more "pissed" than the Canadians. How much sense does that make?

I am surprised that Eastports city manager wasn't at the meeting spouting off about how dangerous it would be when the LNG ships came by Eastport.

Never happen....The NIMBY's and Environuts will never let it be built there or anywhere else in Maine for that matter...

Move along folks , nothing to see here...

midcoastconservative

stay where you are at we dont need your kind here Downeast' we have enough of your kind here already

I don't think midcoast is trying to be overly negative... only a realist. I am quite surprised that the LNG fight has lasted this long. Perhaps this fortitude is what will get them past the roadblocks that typically put the kaibosh to these projects.

So let me get this straight: we can't build LNG because Canada might say no; we can't have a windfarm because some say it's "too loud"; the mill is shutting down and 300+ people are going to loose their jobs; and people are more concerned about what Canada has to say or a little bit of noise?! I am sorry folks, but development is needed, jobs are needed. There is no way around it, thats all there is too it! Either that we just shut the light out on Down-East Maine and go back to the horse and buggy... low economic impact, low noise - should be a win/win, right?

midcoastconservative

sorry i misunderstood you

Oil is a thing of the past. If you want to do right by the young people (for jobs, their health, their safety, etc.) you should be thinking about the future. The REAL future. A future without oil (only 40 years of oil left in the world). A future that needs to be environmentally safe. A future that needs to be politically safe. LNG won't do it. Stop listening to the idiots and politicians and lobbyists that keep saying jobs jobs jobs. Has anyone asked the young people in Calais and Downeast Maine what they want. Don't you think it is time you did? After all, it is their future, not yours or mine. Theirs. This project is being pushed by people who don't live here, who aren't from here, and who won't be around in 20 years or 40 years. Let's get REAL. Do your research. Educate yourself.

You guys whine about no jobs, well here is one trying to come to the area.

where all the young people going to make their money? are they willing to heat with wood seeing there will be no oil or gas, how will they get the wood will they haul it with horse and wagons because there will be no automobils if the is no oil.

StevetDee only the tree huggers and the so called green people are the ones that dont want anything thing down here the rest of us would like to see anything come that will create jobs good paying jobs.

We have an LNG where in our area. No problems what so ever, even a Nuke plant within a few miles of the LNG station. People need to stop the bull.

I'll take forty more years of oil and natural gas over the alternatives, which are being shot down by the very same people (NIMBYs) that want to abandon oil and natural gas tomorrow.

The remaining petroleum available is a bridge to the future alternatives. Otherwise, it's wood and whale oil?!

downeastgoddess, you are an idiot. educate yourself?? nice try on the propaganda.

downeastgoddess--You know what the kids want? They want to get the heck out of Calais cuz there is nothing here for them. You talk to most of them and they'll tell you that they plan to leave Calais and NEVER live here again. No wonder this area is becoming a big nursing home! At least the mill kept some kids here. LNG or a casino or other economic development would keep some kids here as well. I can't blame these kids for leaving. If I were to ever lose my job I would have no second thoughts about packing up and leaving this place behind!

Let's see...... according to the environmentalists, we only have "40 years" of oil left (oh, please....) but the following are not viable alternatives:

LNG, Nuclear, wind (the blades kill bats and also make noise and also are an eyesore), and coal.

Of course, last week we learned from Diane Feinstien that it's unaccuptable to place a solar farm in a desert because it's an eyesore.

Not long before we're all huddled in a cave around a fire.

Wait no we won't because we're not supposed to cut trees.

It's true -- greens are the new reds.

Could not agree more gw2kpro

Folks its like this! If you snooze you lose. If the area doesn't build the LNG, or some other business that will create jobs, then some other part of the state will. Pull your heads out of the hole and wake up! Its coming weather you like it or not, its just the way the world is. You wanna be poor with no future for ya kids? Or would you rather get on the band wagon and make it happen?

Change is the way of life. Always has been; always will be EXCEPT for the old minds in a certain sub-set of Mainers (who used to be called Maniacs for good cause). If there was more receptivity to new ideas and openness to new ways of doing things, Maine wouldn't have to raise so many taxes just to support the basic cost of keeping the state open.

Check out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?.v=clgWu2kWwSY Get moving Maine or be so left behind there will be no one here but the too old to get out and the dead. Watch the tax rate then.

No wonder this area is becoming a big nursing home! {calaisbabe wrote hoping to discredite downeastgoddess - who - downeastgoddess that is, by the way sounds a little like "Cassandra-warnings to the Trojans" of our local time and place} --

Well, the "LIGHT" should have come on for some? There is the exact need and purpose for Washington County, the young people, and the health care industry: A BIG, (maybe the biggest), NURSING HOME ! ! ! right here in Calais region.

Yes !! Since our own local population of of elderly is growing, since the nation's great need in health care in growth of nursing homesis increasing and the hundreds of thousands trained health care givers to provide for them goes uo and up, WHY NOT the BIGGEST NURSING HOME ??

Besides, there are already three functioning LNG's down coast in Gloucester, MA., Boston, MA., and out of Rhode Island. The eastern seaboard pipeline is already connected down that way.

Robert Godfrey industry is coming to Washington County! Canada cannot stop progress for Washington County!

Oil is a thing of the past. You need to plan for the future. The REAL future. Stop living in the past.

“It is going to provide high-paying jobs,” Calais City Manager Diane Barnes said Friday. “There are going to be jobs out there that hopefully the younger generation is going to want to stay in this area instead of moving out.”

Why would they even think this? Companies that move into an area know they can pay wages scaled to what already exists in an area. And why on earth would a kid want to stay in an area because its got an LNG plant? That’s a good place to stay away from.

Portland Maine has LNG....many homes and businesses have already converted and they even have buses running on LNG. But guess what folks? Even though Portland has been a seaport for a long , long time...they will not allow LNG into it. Why? Because one little spark would flatten both Portland and South Portland. Calais can have LNG now...just need a company to distribute it like other cities...it’s already available. How many homes and businesses in the area are equipped to burn LNG in their furnaces? In South Portland the gas company changed the burners in people’s homes from oil to gas...not really a big thing but expensive if the homeowner has to pay it. Does anyone know if Calais LNG is willing to do this? And where is the company all lined up to do this to get the gas to area homes and businesses. Calais LNG says the opportunity exists but that sounds like pie in the sky to me. If it wasn’t for one of the biggest banks (Goldman Sachs) backing their “project” ...it would also be “pie in the sky”...it may be anyway but at least a few people have had some good employment while this project is trying to move in. Is it true the government gives out subsidies (your tax dollars) for energy companies to create these projects for LNG terminals? There are three of them here in Downeast Washington County vying for the same thing... I thought...can three of them exist together? I asked one of the reps from Calais LNG and the answer was no...only one will be built. And I thought...what a lot of wasted money and time for something that might not come about anyway...and also what a let down for the poor people of Washington County because these new jobs they have been promised are all going down the tubes while they wait idly for some company to come along and “save” them. In the mean time they never think of the possibility of forming their own company...getting a good education....getting creative....thinking with their brains instead of waiting for the big “something” to come along to give them a job. Where are the Washington County entrepreneurs?

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“Oftentimes other [economic development] things will follow,” the mayor said.”.....another example of the laissez-faire attitude here in Calais....just sit back and maybe something will come along to save our economy.

The area the Calais LNG plans to building the terminal on is in an extraordinary beautiful setting on the St Croix River. Why not use it to economic advantage in the tourism industry instead? Many Mainers laugh and scoff at the idea of tourism but it happens to be Maine’s #1 industry. Yes folks...it is an industry. Many small businesses could be built around it in that area of the St Croix

And there is nothing wrong with windmills...in fact its too bad more aren’t built instead of planning three LNG terminals when only one is really planned and the world’s LNG supply is already shrinking and becoming in short supply (yeah someone should get educated...I think downeastgoddess already has been) Nothing wrong with LNG ...it’s already available...why not tap into the existing pipeline to bring it to Calais instead of piping it out of the area to the bigger cities?

And they say they will provide employment for all these people....did they say local people? Maybe a few but if you’re one of the ones who thinks they are going to get a good high paying job...you better do your homework and get some training and/or education. Why do kids leave here? Better education is offered elsewhere and they can get a dishwasher job in Portland that pays more than a management job around Calais...that’s why!

Personally, I don’t want it for selfish reasons...I live too near the “burn zone” (and if it so safe...why do they call it a “burn zone”?) and my property will be devalued and being higher risk...insurance will go up. Unless Calais LNG has already taken that into consideration and can guarantee me that this will not happen (higher rates) or they will cover the extra charges. And I don’t want even the slightest possibility that my home, my family and I will blow up. It happened once in Cleveland. And other places.

meweston...."Personally, I don’t want it for selfish reasons...I live too near the “burn zone”

you lost any and all objectivity with this statement.

Washington County entrepreneurs are everywhere and doing their best for the given population of the area. However, given their hard work just keep the doors open, during the winter months it is too expensive for them to give employees a decent wage and benefits. We've been struggling in this area for decades AND WE NEED BIG BUSINESS to come in and offer decent wages and benefits. Hey, if anyone feels that LNG ect. is wrong for the area then, open up a business that will fit the need of the people of this area. Otherwise, we will fight for what we need.

Maybe meweston has the right idea, an entrepreneur could start a herritage museum that would draw 100,000 plus a year to the area.Tourism is a great idea.

LNG in Downeast Maine will not solve all these problems you are talking about. It is wrongful thinking. These are desperate times and they are going to get worse. Pro-LNG wreaks of desperation and bad information. Residents of Downeast Maine: You are smarter than that. Do your research. Educate yourself.

Oil is a thing of the past. You need to plan for the future. The REAL future. Stop living in the past.

Read the comments to this article and tell me that, as someone who doesn't agree with locating LNG in the Quoddy Region,I would not be treated as an enemy if I came "over the riva" to a meeting? We know the answer, so you won't see me and many other Canadians at your public gatherings on LNG or the local stores for that matter. We've already been through the abuse routine going way back to Pittston. Seems I remember one of your Senators even advocating violence a year or so ago. I guess if you're right and I'm wrong, then I'm the enemy and I haven't any rights ... this from the folks who are always advocating democracy and Christianity to everyone else. Nice!

Remember Canada is a sovereign nation .... but, Hell, it would be a "cake walk" (like in 1812?) to invade us, right? That would show us environuts and NIMBYs who our friends are! Right? By the way, we get over a half billion a year from businesses that draw on the environment - that's certainly nuts, but not peanuts! And some of us are really concerned about our "backyard". In case you don't know, NIMBY is an acronym designed to demonize people who care about their place and to confuse the dumb and dumber.

Why not use your energy to help build this place rather than alienating your real friends and neighbours?

Oh yes, I'm where I come from, but I am really not sure I want to stay here and watch developers of quarries and LNG tear families, friends and communities apart.

Disgusted

Art

hey art at least you were invited to an lng meeting unlike us with the nuke plant thingy.

hey art at least you were invited to an lng meeting unlike us with the nuke plant thingy.

artmackay has interesting comment -- Canada is a sovereign nation -- who made this country our enemy? LNG proponents. Canadians are our neighbors and our friends and our family members.

"Maybe meweston has the right idea, an entrepreneur could start a herritage museum that would draw 100,000 plus a year to the area.Tourism is a great idea."

You don't get it...real entrepreneurs do their own thing under their own steam..not relying on government money (that is one big reason the museum failed...the government renigged on its promise). Tourists bring in money. Spend money. It's pretty obvious here in the summer that more money is in town....but too many locals (and have for years) say...lets shoot the tourists...we don't need them! Why don't you just shoot yourself in the foot then? I repeat....tourism already is an industry...it's number 1 in Maine....use it!!! (by the way...it's sustainable too...not the case of LNG industry)

Artmackay,

Are you suggesting that the United States Military could not kick down your door at any time? Cake walk would not even describe it! Your Sovereign nation relies on the United States for military protection. Your defense budget is nonexistent because your government realizes this, and relies on us to protect you. Do you know what the Canadian Air Force consists of ? 6 used U.S. Air Force jet fighters. What we as Americans do is not your concern, as you do not live in this country. Unless it concerns Canada directly, why don't you keep your comments to your self sir.

Doesn't anyone understand or get it yet?!? NOTHING will be coming in to good old Washington County that would help it business or job wise! The real plans in the making for Washington County is that its going to end up like those old tv show Little House on the Prairie & The Waltons. Thank God I moved out of Pembroke ME to Manchester NH when I did (the only regret I have is I should of done it about 10 years ago!) Who knows maybe there will end up being a sequel to those tv shows and the land in Washington County will be used for it (I always did love those shows growing up)

Artmackay....I don't blame you for being disgusted and you have every right to comment....good for you and anyone else who "dares" to oppose the LNG...thank you good neighbor!

meweston, your right in saying art mackay has a right to comment, but we as workers are also right in wanting jobs.Canada has this hurray for me,screw you attitude, when it comes to lng. It is safe to run the canadian lng through the entire state of Maine? Canada thinks so. But of course they would, they sell it to us. Baldacci stole the cassino idea from passamaquoddy tribe, that was an idea ,born right here in Wasington county, that would have creatrd jobs. and now the fool is supporting even more Canadian imports, ie energy from atlantic Canada. What is wrong with lng in Washington county? we could build clean energy, lng fired power boilers to fill our own energy needs instead of passing on the jobs for us. On to the third bridge, yes the bridge project created a quite a few good paying jobs for the area, but when you watch all the truck traffic comming from Canada, all we as taxpayers are doing is helping Canada bring its goods to the us quicker. The Canadian truck traffic is astonishing on route 9. One would think with all of the Canadian imports, Canada would be a little supportive in our quest for good paying jobs. Oh and as for art not visiting our stores, I bet he drinks milk and eats turkey, what do you bet?

One more thing Richard37Hunter look at all the canadians that is allow to work over here and how many americans are allowed to work over there.The only way to get a job over there is if they dont have anybody that can do the job.