How many degrees does the earth warm after 1000 rounds have been fired?

That will be another reason to tax ammo.

I've not had a problem finding 9mm rounds. Granted some stores limit your puchase to two boxes I can always go back the next day and get two more. Even finding Speer LE Gold Dot hollow points has not been an issue but they are not used at the range so I don't need to stock pile them. I also doubt a weapons ban will take place. To many of us own firearms and we are not going to give them up with ease.

PAY ATTENTION TO THIS:

http://www.opencong ress.org/ bill/111- h45/text

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.

This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

..It is registered

.You are fingerprinted

.You supply a current Driver's License

.You supply your Social Security #

.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing

.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25

- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18.

The Government would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

Do not shop at Maine Military Supply. All the owner does is by his .45 acp ammo at wal-mart and then raises the price by $10 and he buys all of it so that nobody else can get the deal. He buys blazer brass for $15 a box and marks it up to $25.

Furyguy670 I see no problems at all with what you posted. I've been fingerprinted as I've once held a DEA security clearance. My prints are already on file, not a big deal. I have a current DL, again. Not an issue. They already have my SS number, again. No biggie. I also have no problem with submitting to a physical or mental evaluation at any time. That one to be honest sounds like a great idea. People with mental issues don't need to own firearms. I have no plan on selling any of my firearms so I am not worried about that and having a gun locked away so no child under the age of 18 cannot gain access to it is a good idea as well.

Yes, there is a lot more to this bill but what you stated is not that big of a deal if you are a law abiding citizen with nothing to hide. I have nothing to hide so I could care less if they want to show up and give me a mental evaluation. You also have to remember the bill must pass and not all bills do but when we keep reading about all the crazy people who do obtain a firearm via a legal means and then use it to kill many people you must realize that some sort of control is needed. I'm not crazy about the fact that a private sell can take place unchecked because you have no clue who you are selling a weapon to or what their intentions are.

Yes, I enjoy owning firearms and having the right to carry one concealed but checks and balances are needed in this day in age when people with serious mental issues own guns and children can get easy access to them.

"If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns"

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people"

Bumper stickers I have seen in the past..maybe we need to get 'em out again.

just some more laws that violate the 2nd ammendment. what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" does the government not understand.

guns do not kill people, people kill people. if you can read this then thank your teacher, if you can read this in english then thank a vet. oh, my bad. we are on the watch list now.

This is for both Sebec39 and Srtmedic....

Guns do kill people. A lot of people have been killed by guns. I understand the fact that a person must pull the trigger but guns do in fact, kill. You cannot argue with fact. If we did not have guns we might use large rocks or sharp knives and you could once again state large rocks or knives don't kill people. People kill people.

Guns kill. It's that simple. I don't want my firearms taken away from me but this BS of guns don't kill people, only people kill people is just down right dumb.

9MM is everywhere. .32 and 380 are very hard to locate for my clients.

Let's ban cars. They heat up the atmosphere and cause more deaths than the guns in the US do. Next we can ban knives and then the rest of the drugs and suicide.

If it isnt a gun it would be another weapon. Will be ban every weapon that has ever been used to harm someone, whoops there go our hands, feet, heads, guess humans will be banned next.....

will they I mean

Whlle banning cars might be impractical, we should certainly reduce their numbers. I find that I can rent one when I need one, and I don't have a $7,000 a year sinkhole in the driveway.

Some 40,000 Americans are killed by cars each year.

The other day my gun lifted its self out of my gun cabinet , loaded its self , pointed at me and fired . Who would have thought my gun would shoot me , I always treated it with such respect.

It is routine now for FFLs to pick up ammo at Wal Mart and jack the price. Took the wife to a CCW class and the instructor was preaching "buy from you FFL to keep them open". Sorry, If I can find 270 rounds for $12.93 rather than $35.00 or 22 for $13.00 rather than $25.00. What would you do?

Heck I can travel 150 miles south and buy the same guns for $300 to $400 less. It is crazy at the moment.

Connecticut has almost those same laws, I have no problems with all my guns.

This story, and ones like it, have been carried repeatedly by all major media outlets since Obama was elected. The story is getting kind of old.

Right-wing paranoia: back in vogue in 2009. Don't leave home without it. Get a grip! (No pun intended)

cars also kill people, so what are we going to do. ban them also. nothing kills without human intervention. and you missed the point about violating the 2nd ammendment.

Perhaps writing letters to the editor, blogs, and free speech should be illegal unless:

..It is registered

.You are fingerprinted

.You supply a current Driver's License

.You supply your Social Security #

.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing

.Each update - change of address would cost $25

- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to vote and are subject up to a year in jail.

There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Talking to any child under 18 is forbidden unless sanctioned by the state - that means you mom and dad.

The Government would have the right to come and inspect that you are not storing improper reading material (the bible) and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

That is next.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;

And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;

And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;

And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

By Martin Niemoller, German pastor and theologian, born in Lippstadt, Gr, 1892

To Kevin of Bangor:

I am to polite to tell you what I really think of your ridiculous beliefs and comments. I will however say thank God people who believe as you do are in the minority. You sound like you would be much better off if you lived in Mr. Rodgers neighborhood. Saying you believe in a citizens right to own a gun is like telling a child they can go to Disney World as long as they promise not to go on any of the rides.

"Guns" are weapons. There's no getting around it. But to say that guns kill people is just nuts. I used to work weatherizing houses in Washington and Hancock Counties. Working in a house one day there was a rifle standing against the wall where I had to work so I asked the lady who owned the house if she minded me moving it. She said no she didn't mind. I picked the rifle up, saw the hammer pulled back so I did what any responsible person who has just picked up a gun he or she didn't personally just unload and worked the lever. There was a live round in the chamber. I asked the lady if she knew it was loaded. Her reply was that it had been standing there since before her husband passed away more than five years prior to my picking that rifle up. Good thing I came along when I did, obviously that gun was going to kill someone. Now, if a scumbag found that rifle in that condition he or she might have *used* the gun to kill someone. The gun, by itself, even loaded with the hammer pulled back, not only didn't kill anyone, it couldn't kill anyone. Guns are tools, they do not kill any more than knives kill. The person picking the gun (or knife) up is what kills...using the particular weapon he or she has in her hand.

Guns dont kill people...Liberals Kill People!

Coopah...there are similarities between post war Germany and the US. I agree....

I guess the price of guns and ammo will go up even more now

Thanks to the media for publishing this now some bright idea in Augusta will choose to put a high tax on these so it can support something lame like dirigo.

Let's ban forks and spoons too, they make people fat.

Liberalism: A malignant disease spreading across America threatening to wipe out the human race. Guns are not dangerous, liberals are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right-wing lying: A malignant disease spreading aross Amercian threatening to wipe out the human race (ie., "nuke 'em!!"). Guns are not dangerous, facists, nazis and other right-wing governments are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brownshirts unite!

We'll see, but remember, a right-wing Congress, years ago, already decided they could turn your guns into so much junk simply by assuring that sporting rounds have a "shelf life" in the manufacturing process. Military rounds do not. Hence, no "civilian stockpiling." My 1930's cardboard shotshells still work. My 1960's rounds "fizzle" more often than not. You can't BUY black powder that doesn't "go bad." And you can't BUY military rounds. Keep up the lies, though, maybe you'll get a "revolution" out of it down the road. They should put the most vocal parrots right on the front lines.

What you said ydnar723. I was thinking more in the lines of funding the government to be more facist.

Stockpiling guns and ammo will make our country safer.

I feel safer knowing my neighbors are armed, especially with the burglary that has happened in the area. That ring has now been arrested, but, unfortunately, new ones will appear, sooner or later. There may be underlying social issues that need to be addressed, but burglary, etc. is not the answer, IMHO.

The reason the Japanese did not invade the U.S. from the west coast in WW II is because there was not only a military, there were guns in nearly every home. Something to keep in mind.

outdoorman. While I sympathize with your sentiment. Your reasoning is wrong. The reason the Japanese did not invade the west coast in WW2 was because their naval airpower and carrier strike forces were decimated at the Battle of Midway in mid 1942.

Well said, coopah!

Had the IJN not lost but won at the Battle of Midway, Japan still would not have invaded the United States because there were firearms in nearly every home.

Looks like Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck have again invaded the minds of the uneducated. The President has not stated that he will be taking anything away from gun owners. Instead we get Larry, Moe and Curly telling the gullible that them that they cannot go out and shoot bambi with an urban-assault rife. Real sportsman.

RileyB I understand what you are saying and I could care less what you think about me but those that have the mindset that guns don't kill people, people kill people are the types of people I don't want to associate myself with. I also refuse to join the NRA but I enjoy owning a firearm and I enjoy being able to carry one concealed but I'm also not concerned that I am going to lose that right. I abide by the law and have no criminal past and I could pass a psychological evaluation without a problem. I'm also not a person who thinks the Government is 100% evil and wants to take away all my rights when it comes to owning a gun but there are some new laws that should be in place when it comes to the purchase of a gun and owing a gun.

to kevin of bangor. there are already existing laws on the books when it comes to purchasing and owning a gun. but i can tell by what you are saying that you are one of the many sheeple that are living in this great world as you see it since you worked for one of the alphabit agencies. you are still avoiding the 2nd ammendment issue. go back to living in your dream world and the rest of us will live in reality.

The NRA is giving away free memberships right now. This isn't a joke. I was surprised when I signed up and actually got a free membership. With those who do not feel the 2nd Amendment assures us the right to keep and bear arms now in office, it's imperative we back the NRA now more than ever.

Here's the link: http://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/

Speaking only as a Maine Indian, it is my view that anyone who does not hunt solely for food, and who possesses firearms for the sole purpose of shooting "Bambi" or any other living creature for sport should be required to submit to a psychological assessment and, if untreatable and uncorrectable, such persons should be permanently banned from owning or possessing firearms.

After determining one does have the proper judgement in the use of such force, however, firearms should be possessed and used to hunt for food, and not for sport, especially by so-called "sports" from away. The use of firearms is inherently dangerous and, other than hunting to supplement our food diet, the only other permissable basis for possessing firearms is, as the framers of the U.S. Constitution intended, to assist in protecting and defending oneself, one's family, one's community, and the nation in a minute's noitice.

Hunting with firearms requires an understanding of proper use of force decision making in order to do so safely. In my view, a person who thinks hunting is a sport, clearly does not posess that understanding and should not be considered safe, and nor whould we tolerate them roaming Maine's forested lands and killing Maine wildlife.

The only shot of Maine wildlife these people should be allowed is one taken with a camera. There is likely far more economic potential in ecotourism today for our all-season sporting camp operators than in sport hunting as well.

To Kevin of Bangor re HR 45;

You miss the point ENTIRELY. It's not about YOU. It's about our Constitutional RIght to keep and bear arms. This bill, if passed, would do NOTHING to stem gun violence because it does not target the criminal. ALL gun laws have this effect. They do nothing to inhibit the criminal; all they do is penalize lawful citizens.

You aren't concerned because the bill doesn't seem to you like it would impact you. Think again. Any time your fellow citizens rights are endangered YOURS ARE TOO. Any person who will not stand for the rights of his fellow citizens DOESN'T DESERVE HIS OWN RIGHTS.

I notice you failed to mention the part where they can come into your home for an inspection. Frankly, I doubt if that's true because that would instantly kill the bill. However, do you honestly expect me to believe you wouldn't mind if the local swastikas show up at your door and inspect your home? That involves yet another Amendment.

My guess is if the swastikas show up and demand your weapons you'll hand them over with a whimper. Bear in mind one of the first things hitler did was make it illegal to own firearms. The rest was systematic. After their property was confiscated, the Jews were herded into ghettos, then shipped off to places like krakow and auschwitz. They didn't have the means to resist because their weapons had already been taken. History teaches us that when weapons were finally smuggled back the Jews put up a spirited defense. There is now a global organization called Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership that was formed as a direct result of the Holocaust. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=gmail&q=jews%20firearms May I suggest you visit that site and do some research before you advocate laws that attack our Constitution. Let me ask you this. Do you even know the holocaust happened? Are you one of these who thinks it didn't happen?

The holocaust definitely happened and it is an example of what the government is capable of doing. The heck of it is, we don't even have to look back at Germany. Examples are all around us right now. Look at the islamic governments and how they treat their citizens. Kevin of bangor...how do you feel about a government that can execute you for an alleged crime without the due process of law? How do you feel about a government that uses cruel and unusual punishment? How do you feel about a government that discriminates against women and children to the point they have absolutely no voice or defense against the way they are treated? Give up your guns and it will be a mere matter of time.

This obama character is one scary dude people. I fear we haven't seen anything yet but rest assured. Your rights are in grave danger.

Hey didn't I just see the truck out front............yah the one coming to take our guns away!!! Boy what feeble minds you NRA people have, can't you see that all you are doing is falling for the old "Better get this before it is gone and I need it".......... maybe if you looked into it a little better and asked why would a perosn who was a desendent of Wild BIll Hickoch, which Obama is, would want to ban your guns. This is just the GOP trying to use more of their scare tactics as they did that last 20 years and it seems to be working on these Idiots! And if it takes a little time to buy a gun and keep it out of the hands of a mental patient, criminal then so be it! Yup keep falling for this crap and make the gun shops rich!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!! I'm glad to see that us Democrats beat the Rednecks, KKK, NRA and Nascar Dads!!! WOo Hoo 8 more years and liking it!

"Hey didn't I just see the truck out front............yah the one coming to take our guns away!!!Hey didn't I just see the truck out front............yah the one coming to take our guns away!!!"

Be careful what you wish for. When the Second Amendment falls the first will be right behind it. Then the 5th. After that the truck will be out front to take YOU away....and maybe your family as well.

Learn from history. To know history is to know the future. Can you imagine being thrown in jail (or worse) for merely criticizing the government on a public chat as I have done? In a different time, or place, I could be summarily shot for it. Do you realize that?

German citizens were actually HUNG or SHOT for the things they said. These weren't necessarily Jews either, or other victims of hitler's genocide. These were German citizens who made the mistake of criticizing the government. This occurred before the invasion of Poland, when hitler was consolidating power. It's true...do the research.

We think it can't happen here, but that's because our system of checks and balances has always worked. Our country is just as susceptible to dictatorship as any other if the people do not take the responsibility of protecting their own rights; and the rights of their fellow citizens.

An oppressive government is AFRAID of an armed citizenry. That is why the first thing they'll do is minimize access to firearms. It isn't about crime at all. If it was about crime they would target criminals. As anyone can plainly see, the government isn't targeting criminals at all with their oppressive gun laws. They are targeting lawful citizens. Beneath the thinly veiled guise of discouraging violent crime, the government is fulfilling its agenda to disarm America.

How about some of us gun nuts get together and start a pirate group? I bet we could have some fun and maybe make a few bucks on the side! What do you think?

Kevin_of_Bangor - so cars kill people, not the drivers? What about someone who strangles someone... was it the gloves? I have a bunch of guns and to this day have never found a body near them when I return home. People kill people. You make absolutely no sense.

TheTruth - I don't hunt, I shoot competitively. I have an accurized ar-15, not an "urban-assault rifle." I built it for one purpose, shooting paper. It isn't the gun, it's how it is used by the man behind the trigger. We need to come down hard on criminals who violate firearm laws, not on the firearms themselves. A kitchen knife is a kitchen knife until someone uses it to attack/harm someone... does it then become an assault knife? We are all in fact equipped to be prostitutes, but do we choose to use our equipment in such a manner... ?

BigBoy - please don't relate right wingers to Rednecks, kkk, and nascar... it's like saying all liberals are drug using hippies and unbathed granola eaters.

Time to lock & load!

Here is another lesson from history. TAXES.... Do you realize we live in a country that taxes us to the tune of nearly HALF of what we earn? Does that bother you? Excessive tax in just another form of oppression.

This country was FOUNDED largely because of oppressive taxation. People were being taxed to death. At some point they became fed up and resisted so what happened? England sent the MILITARY to enforce its laws. Eventually, hostilities broke out. Thank goodness we won but it was close. This country's Constitution was written with oppression fresh in the minds of the people who wrote it. They KNEW what oppression was because they lived through it.

Does it bother you to know the government takes half of your money and gives it away; or uses it for nonsense wars? Does it bother you the government takes half your money and uses it for whatever it likes? Does it bother you the government to trillions of YOUR dollars and basically gave a blank check to the banking industry? Did we get to vote on this? Did the ordinary citizen have any say in this? No we did not.

The framers of the Constitution knew the importance of an armed citizenry because they KNEW that government will eventually disassociate from the people and carry on its own agenda. This is precisely what is happening in America today. This is why they want our guns. Without arms people are defenseless.

Frostheev well speaks for the uneducated, incompentent and ignorant. Just think... these people, drive, vote and have guns. Look out world.

Lets ban republicans ... they are dangerous to the fiscal condition of the country. They came came very close to bankrupting the country so they must also be banned.

Thank you very much, Nok Noi Ricker, for posting a factual and balanced article regarding firearms and the current state of the marketplace.

Thank you for acknowleging that there are legitimate and law abiding gun owners that are having a hard time obtaining ammunition.

Thank you for not resorting to half-truths and outright deceptions to support a belief structure.

Thank you BDN for allowing this piece of journalistic integrity to be published.

There is hope!

TheTruth=misnomer

TheTruth - What decisions would you have made differently given the situation(s) thrown at former president Bush? And when is this Economy going to become President Obama's Economy? I understand it's still within his first 100 days in office, but nothing has changed for the better. I've still lost an extremely large part of my retirement/investments, and continue to do so.

***OBAMA SHAM-WOW! Soaking up your money and redistributing it to people who don't work enough to pay taxes!***

Don't worry though... I figure there has to be another Jimmy Carter before we get another Ronald Reagan.

Scare tacticsand sensationalism as usual.

Once again, President Obama does not propose taking away everyone's guns.

Only in your minds......don't get so worked up over what has not happened yet.....and is very unlikely to.

No one proposes taking away the right of responsible citizens to own guns.

"Once again, President Obama does not propose taking away everyone's guns. "

Of course not!! Ostensibly that would be counterproductive to their agenda. You STILL don't get it.

It is INCREMENTAL.

Watch for a revival of klinton's '94 crime bill. Only this time it will be more restrictive with far more regulation.

Once again...I say for any penetration however slight...

Gun control isn't about CRIME...it is about restricting the Second Amendment Rights of LAWFUL CITIZENS. Ask yourself a very basic, simple question. If gun control was about CRIME then why in Heaven's name doesn't is target criminals????? That's because gun control ISN'T about crime. That is a farce. Gun control is about CONTROLLING the rights of CITIZENS to keep and bear arms..that is why gun control laws target lawful citizens. It is so blatantly OBVIOUS I can't believe people don't see it.

You sound very angry.

And did not have to be snide to make your point...."Once again...."

I see it jeffEmler Its not your content it's your presentation...Take a breathe...Everyone on this post would benifit from reading Kenneth Timmerman the journalist who writes the truth about Ameerican/forgein relations and how our constitutional rights are slowly being screwed out of each of us. by our government..Its the new world order baby...Very real..Abraham Linclon saw it and said "America will not be destroyed from the outside, If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

Read Timmermans work if you do then you will understand that JeffElmer is doing what he can to tell the truth....

Obama in office is the worst event in American history today.

I'm not angry....I'm passionate :-)

A lot of good people sacrificed everything for the freedom that many Americans seem to take for granted.

Actually, when I think of that it does make me angry.

Im passionate too...passionately angry...anger can be motivating.

People operate on ego and need of greed therefore they sell out for trinkets in America as opposed to freedoms...Freaks me out when I read comments on the newspapers in America.

Not just Maine. all over America people dont realize twhat is at stake when our constitutional rights are violated they are uneducated about what America is the freedom we have to be safe and secure in our liives and homes and more...I love Mainers they say what they think ...

I keep hearing that Obama doesn't want an AWB - he's too busy with other things.

Sorry, I don't believe it. I believe that he (and congress) are just waiting until after the 2010 elections. They don't want to lose those elections again. But, I also believe that they might have a surprise awaiting them. We the People are tired of "our" government trashing the Constitution and ignoring us.

We shall see.