Sounds like the cops have too much time on their hands. With all of the drug problems in that area, seems like they could make better use of their time.

Busting up a college party at a private residence, gee major bust guys, give yourselves a pat on the back and taze each other at the victory party.

OK SO THEY KNEW ABOUT IT BEFORE IT STARTED AND WAITED TILL IT WAS WELL UNDERWAY BEFORE CRASHING IT....SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE WAITING TO BUST AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE! SCREAMS ENTRAPMENT IF THEY ALLOWED THEM TO PARTY FOR A WHILE AND THEN BUST THEM?

IT SEEMS TO ME FROM THIS ARTICLE THAT THEY ARE CHARGING THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WASNT AT THE PARTY, DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE?

cops, gotta love em !! shouldnt they have told him they knew what was up and warned him? not wait til it was too late.

Good job for the police :) yes because underage drinking is against the law and the KIDS know this... maybe just maybe the police saved a life by getting them before they got into cars and killed themself or my family.... to bad that the price of alcohol whouldn't increase or those that are injured while under the influance would have to pay all hospital and/or funeral bills...and yes if you PROVIDE a place for drinking you are responsible.. again GOOD JOB to the Police Departments

Entrapment is not an issue here. Entrapment is the act of a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense which the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.

What would you have the police do? Set up a road block and search every vehicle for alcohol pulling into the camp? Hmmm, nope, can’t do that, Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure issues.

Well the police could have called the person hosting the party and told them they knew they were going to host this party. Hmmm, well that might work or they would have held it anyway or moved the location to another party.

Folks, didn’t we just have a case of a young gentlemen who died when he feel down a flight of stairs after consuming too much alcohol at an off campus party in Orono recently? Two young ladies involved just plead guilty to “furnishing a place for minors to consume alcohol”.

So, some of you suggest that the police have “bigger” problems and shouldn’t have bothered with this. Sure, until someone gets behind the wheel drives and hits and kills YOUR family member, then you would be SCREAMING the police should have done something sooner!

The police in this case did exactly what WE (you and I) hired them to do, enforce the laws and protect the public.

I find it interesting that the college doesn't support underage drinking but yet they do support homosexuality. Sin is sin UMM... how about you go neutral on all of it and maybe some of us conservatives will start using the campus again.

Lower the drinking age to 19. They are going to drink anyway.

I hardly doubt it was entrapment.... there were 2 cops daughters there that were busted.

Proudmainemom: I'd hardly call 18, 19, and 20 year olds "kids." And, yes, I agree with some of the posters here that it's time to lower the drinking age. This had the whiff of prohibition tactics.

If they are "going to drink anyway" why stop at 19? Why not 18? After all, what is the difference between a drinking age of 18 vs. 19 other than one year of age? Why not 16? Why not 12? Why not eliminate a minimum age completely?

If you use the "they are going to do it anyway" argument, it can be applied to a whole host of social issues. As they are going to do drugs anyway, why not legalize that? If they are going to smoke anyway, why have a minimum age for that? If they are going to speed anyway, why not eliminate all speed limits?

Legal drinking age should be 18. At 18 people are allowed to vote, enlist in the military without parental consent, etc. I was born and raised in NY when the drinkling age was 18. The only problems were from the out of state, New Jersey, people coming into NY and loading up on too much alcohol in a short period of time because the drinking age in their state was 21.

I agree with filen44. I think the drinking age should be 19 because most kids are out of high school and they can die for their country in the military,vote for a president and are considered an adult.

Dying for their country, voting for a president doesn't include abuse of a poisonous substance. Until you can make the decision rationally to not abuse alcohol (when your brain is actually around age 23) then a lot of kids really can't drink safely.

They should raise the age of military service to 21.

...If they continue with the alcohol laws as they now stand. If a kid can die for his country, he can certainly drink booze in it.

I think the cops did the right thing in handling this the way they did. How long has this been going on with no one giving the cops heads-up. And regardless of whether an owner is on site at the time of these parties is still their responsibility for allowing this to go on. It seems to me the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Hey politicallyincorrect, what does homosexuality have to do with underage drinking? People CHOOSE to drink, they DON'T CHOOSE to be a homosexual, they are BORN that way. And if you don't like what a persons' sexual orientation is, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. Would you not like someone because they were born with different color hair from you, or different eye color...or maybe deaf or blind. Would you tell someone to change their hair color to fit your "conservative" lifestyle? There are many different people in this world and all of them deserve to be treated equally...after all, isn't there a quote, "everyone is created equal."

And as for underage drinking, if someone wants to drink, they take the chance of getting caught and they know this and choose to take the risk. If they're going to do the crime, they need to do the time.

Consider the roster of those who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most were 19 - 20 yrs old...Not allowed to have a drink their own country, but sure go ahead and die for it...this seems a bit hypocritical to me. At age 18 we are considered responsible reasoning adults and allowed to: sign up for military service, vote, get credit, etc. Yet can we have a drink in our own country? HELL NO! I have never understood how this law was allowed to pass in the first place. BTW for all of you whining about drunk drivers....take a real good look at the ages of most of the court cases....OVER 26! Most of the young adults out there have had it driven into their heads not to drink and drive. They have designated drivers, and most of the time if they don't have a DD then they "camp out" at the place they're at or call a cab. The DARE program has been in the school systems for at least 25 yrs now. These so called "Kids" have learned it well from their schools, Television Ads, Their parents (if the parents were responsible at parenting) and from society at large. IF they were allowed to drink in public legally, you would see alot fewer "hidden" parties. But then, the State wouldn't get the fine revenues would they?

Pull-ease! I can't image a more worthwhile bust downeast, NOT! Wasted resources and stupid charges. Listen, if a person can give their life in combat, vote and be held criminally responsible as an adult, then they should be able to drink. It is sort of a rediculous charge...underage drinking...when iit is cited to a person over 18. I don't care where they set the age, just make it so if people going to gain "rights" at a certain age, make it inclusive for everything. From personal experience, I am of the opinion that a 21 year old is better able to keep his head down when under fire. He also is better at handling alcohol as well. Then again, I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'! I am sure there was a great deal of intelligence information gathered in terms of who is marketing drugs such as Oxy-Comtin and the like. Thing is, it is pathetic that there has to be a such a big deal made out of a bunch of college kids blowing off steam. I'll bet 99.9 % of the officer present had don the same thing when they were 19.

CandyofBrewer - I do not think any one has said that the majority of OUIs are coming from the under 21 crowd.

I dare say that the state most likely receives more revenue from the sale of alcohol then the fines imposed on OUI offenders. In fact, I bet we spend more money in the arrest, prosectution, adjuication, jail time, etc...then we get back in fines. OUI and drunk driving is NOT about collecting "revenues" for the state.

Cant even goto camp anymore. Damn........

it is funny how our government and elected officails work. at 18. you can go off to go get killed for a needless war in iraq, vote and go to jail in the bighouse. but, don't you dare drink. come on, i don't drink myself but i did at 18 and they all do. what this means really is that keeping it at 18, they can bust you, harass you and collect more fine money for the good old elected officails. that is why they waited for the party to get started, and probably needed someone to lead them by the hand from the coffee shop.

If you want to raise the drinking age, be prepared to lose Federal Highway Funds as a result. It was the feds that "forced" the state to raise the drinking age in the first place.

"Legal drinking age should be 18. At 18 people are allowed to vote, enlist in the military without parental consent, etc. I was born and raised in NY when the drinkling age was 18. The only problems were from the out of state, New Jersey, people coming into NY and loading up on too much alcohol in a short period of time because the drinking age in their state was 21. "

I totally agree! I too was raised in NY at that time and most of us drank responsibly. Yes there were some incidents at college, but mostly out of staters who never drank at home. If a young person is old enough to die for his/her country, buy on credit, get married without parental consent, vote on how th country should be run etc etc , then what is the deal with alcohol?

One should be more concerned about the "over 30's" who are alcoholic, and never see a sober day and drive drunk and threaten OUR welfare every day of their lives.

JD2008--I didn't mean it was only the OUI/DUI fines..I mean for all the arrests of minor's possessing/transporting/drinking alcohol when they are 18 yrs old up to 21. And don't forget all those fines for furnishing alcohol/providing a place for minors to consume...fines. And they are 18 or over...yes there was a time when "free white and 21" was the norm. BUT they weren't allowed to vote, or join military, or get loans, or credit cards, etc. And yes, There are "revenues" for every fine there is also the restitution fee. PLUS the money spent on the state mandated courses (which most fail) and then the counseling required to get your license back...don't forget the reinstatement fees either. So you see there are plenty of "revenues" here.

And yes I do know it was the Federal Government that mandated the raised age limit and made it a federal age so as to end the confusion of laws from state to state. But perhaps it is time for those of us who were born in the 60's to take a second look at the laws our grandparents put into affect. We should not all blindly go about our lives without trying to rectify mistakes made by people who did not live in our times. I'm just saying that there really should be second looks taken at some of these hypocritical laws.

Then the Fed's need to get with the program! The military can sign up a new recruit at 17(with a parents permission) send them to boot camp then off to war. This alone is a more sobering and traumatic piece of life that they have never seen before. I say let them drink BEER only at 19 and then hard liquor at 21. They are considered adults LEGALLY at 18 so they are rsponsible for their own actions.

It is illegal to drink if you are under the age of 21.

Why? Alcohol hurts kids. In addition to drunk driving, alcohol is a major factor in many other types of fatal injuries including drowning, burns, falls (note the recent fatality in Orono), alcohol poisoning... It has been proven that alcohol affects teens differently than adults, because the brain is not fully matured until the mid twenties. Alcohol impairs judgment and has been strongly linked to teenage depression and plays a significant role in suicide. It makes kids more susceptible to sexual assault and unprotected sex. Kids who drink alcohol before they turn 15 are FOUR times more likely to develop a dependency to alcohol than those who wait until they are 21.

I applaud the Washington County Sheriff’s Department! They recognize that alcohol has a bigger impact in our society than yes, even the infamous OxyContin. How many people do you know drink? So they all do it “responsibility,” how much work do they miss? Are they productive at work? How often do they go the Doc because of problem that more than likely are caused from drinking? How much time do they spend with their kids? Are the kids ignored or even neglected because of drinking? How many car crashes? How many people have died due to alcohol? How many teens have made poor choices because they are under the influence? How many lives are wasted?

HOW DO YOU THINK ALCOHOLOICS BECOME ALCOHOLICS or DRUG ADDICTS BECOME DRUG ADDICTS? It usually begins before 21.. with that first party, taking that first drink and feeling that they can do anything. Good job Donnie!

You did it as a teen? Does that make it ok? Innovation and progress is the backbone of our society. Advancement in medical care, transportation, energy resources are all examples of our society understanding what will help us continue to live longer, better lives. This is no exception. The “when I was young I walked 10 miles both ways up hill” theory doesn’t hold to well with me. More parents need to stand up for and to their children not cower in a corner because they did it when they were young. You use modern devices and information to make choices every day. Use your knowledge wisely….

der_untergang - what a stupid and racist question!

JD2008-

AGREED!

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"It is illegal to drink if you are under the age of 21.

Why? Alcohol hurts kids. In addition to drunk driving, alcohol is a major factor in many other types of fatal injuries including drowning, burns, falls (note the recent fatality in Orono), alcohol poisoning... It has been proven that alcohol affects teens differently than adults, because the brain is not fully matured until the mid twenties. Alcohol impairs judgment and has been strongly linked to teenage depression and plays a significant role in suicide. It makes kids more susceptible to sexual assault and unprotected sex. Kids who drink alcohol before they turn 15 are FOUR times more likely to develop a dependency to alcohol than those who wait until they are 21. "

Yet somehow it is ok to send 18 year olds off to war? How much damage do you think that does to their little minds but you don't see MADD doing anything about that.

All of the ADULTS, that is what they are in the eyes of the law for all other purposes, could be tried for wrongful actions that you send them off to war for.

If the brain is not fully matured how can you convict them for shooting the wrong person at the wrong time?

How much of a depression or suicide issue do you think war is for the average 18-20 year old?

Sunrisecounty your argument against alcohol doesn't hold water when you factor in the other decisions we allow these "kids" to make and the things we can hold them criminally liable for.

Either stop arresting them for the being the adults they are or me consistant in your definition of the age of consent.

Good thing the cops didn't act this way back in Donnie's day...hell, he'd STILL be in jail! ...hehe...

why should you be able to buy and smoke cigarettes at age 18 but not have some beers? seems like a huge double standard to me. Smoking is way more hamrful to people than kegs of beer are.

Ya can't even drink beer in the middle of the woods anymore? Is that "the way life should be"? The next generation has to get used to living in a police state.

Travis Wiley is a scummy dirt bag who intimidated me afte I gave witness about political financial backers in the area.

Travis Wiley is a scum because he intimidated my roommate so seriously that she moved with her two year old on the next day.

Travis Wiley is a lying piece of dirt who was so stupid he lied in court in front of federal authorites...I wonder who paid his raise in rank off???Mathews?? LMAO

Why dont the cops leave the students alone and go after REAL criminals?

JD2008 the Washington County Sheriffs office is BOUGHT not elected. or hired as you wrote..dream on...

If you are a child ,olester and your wife has a daycare call PETER BALDACCI for reduced sentencing!

These guys are getting a bummer deal compared to that tewhey that received four months for molesting the kids in his wifes care!

Damn Democrats got their priorities screwed up!

Rachael1962...the students in this instance broke a law...they have been charged (or summonsed) to appear in court...this incident had a positive outcome when compared to “UM students fined in Old Town death - Charges stem from alcohol use at party” (http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/105076.html)...would you rather have the officers wait until they hurt someone else? Imagine this headline “Three UMM students killed in alcohol related accident - Washington County Sheriff’s Department knew about party but did nothing to stop it”. Would you prefer a headline like that?

Can someone tell me why Diana chose to list the camp owner's occupation in this story? She didn't list the occupation of the 2 arrested for supplying the alcohol at the party. Interesting? Perhaps Diana wanted to create a little sensationalism with her never ending references to Domtar and the shutting down of the mill. Perhaps she wanted to humiliate the camp owner by listing his occupation. Who knows what goes on inside the head of an ace reporter like Diana.

Rachael1962...my friend no ONE from UMM was killed, let alone 3 people. If the Washington County Sheriff's Department knew about this party ahead of time (which according to their own admission they did) and they really cared about safety, they would have shut it down ahead of time like they did at Rocky Lake. No, they chose to LET UNDERAGE PEOPLE DRINK and then swoop in for the arrest so they could have some excitement on Saturday night. I'm glad I didn't need assistance from them on Saturday from what I hear they sent out a task force with vests to shut this vicious party.

First off, Proud maine Mom. I doubt you have any clue what happened. You stated that they stopped people from driving? Actually what happened is they made people who planned on camping out, drive back fourty minutes to campus. This was extremely irresponsible of the police because I know for a fact that they sent people running thru the woods and driving intoxicated. At the age of 18 college kids are asked to be adults. We are legal to go to war and fight for a country which will not grant us the rights of all other adults. We are legal to vote for a president of our choosing to run this country, yet we have zero say in how it is run. The system discourages "adults" from wanting to act as adults. Why should we feel the need to vote, if nothing changes when we do. The party the other Night WAS NOT WILD when the officers arrived, there were two kids sitting by a fire singing, and a group of 40 or so around listening to the music or their friends and enjoying the end of a stressful year of college. The party was safe, because of the greek societies named in the paper. JD2008, the party you are referring to in old town was alot different. At UMM the students are family, we are closely knit and we watch out for one another. Also, yes we approve of homosexuality on campus. What does this have to do with underage drinking? I guess it's good you dont use this campus, we like it the way it is when it comes to sexuality. All and all the party the other night was a SAFE, RELAXING, and Undercontrol time, until the cops came and sent intoxicated kids-scared running thru the woods and driving. They should have just said they would watch the roads to make sure noone would leave, and everyone would have camped out.

Washington County's keystone kops are at it again! While they were waiting to steal some free booze from the party and entrap a few "durn book-learnin' college students!" some Machias idiot was probably beating his wife to death and then burying her outside. They'll find her in a few months and shrug and say "uhhh...hunting accident must've been."

As a member of a Greek organization some of these comments are pointless. This article has nothing to do with the percentages of drunk drivers or who are more likely to become an alcoholic or not. The point is this organization, (well should I say two people) planed a party, they found a spot away from other people so it would not interrupt others lives, found sober people to drive, and got together with some of their friends and had a few drinks. Not sure why this is such a big deal, and not sure why law enforcement took the time to stop this. We have people selling prescription drugs down town Machias, we have police officers using these drugs and some who drink and drive themselves (oh yes many of your police officers drink and drive if you don’t believe it just stop them on Saturday nights and find out yourself), but they find the time to bust a college party. I recall being in college at UMM and a police officer would come and drink with us. I am sure the police should have better things to do than break up parties, that are not hurting anyone, that are safe, and well planned out, and out of the way of any public eye. But no, they focus on this, instead of the drug dealers, the child molesters and all the thefts in town. Donny Brown I once thought you would make a good sheriff, now I am re thinking my opinion of you. Stop the real crime in Washington County, or are you not able to, as most of your officers are involved in it. This is a FUC@ED up world we live in. A bunch of adults get together and have a few drinks, and it makes a public paper. No one was fighting, no one was hurting any one else, no one was drinking and driving, no one was forcing anyone to drink they were all there of their own free will, having a good time, celebrating the end of a long school year. The thing that pisses me off the most is it is blamed on one specific group. Well lets just say, Kim Page you will do what ever you need to in order to stop all Greeks wont you. I agree with the posting, why not stop them before they get into the party, but I guess that would mean the State of Maine would not get as much money from fines, and how else would the police make the paper. We all know they can not stop the real crime downeast so lets just try stopping the harmless stuff instead of why Downeast is know as the Pill Capital of the country. Great job Kim Page and Washington County Police…..you earned your pay this weekend.

Jay Beaudoin is my freaking hero.

Sometimes I poop a lot :)

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Sometimes my poop stinks REALLY bad! :0

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But what really matters is...

I can sing like an angel...

I used to think that I could not go on

And life was nothing but an awful song

But now I know the meaning of true love

I'm leaning on the everlasting arms

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Sometimes silence can seem so loud

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But first I know it starts inside of me, oh

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I think about it every night and day

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I see me running through that open door

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If I can see it, then I can be it

If I just believe it, there's nothing to it

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I think about it every night and day

Spread my wings and fly away

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I'm not sure any of the people writing the above comments actually READ the article. Forest Ranger Currier warned them not to hold a party on public lands which they agreed to. That doesn't mean the kids then kept him or the Sherrif's Dept. in the loop about where the party was being moved to or even if there was a party. It was that evening the Sherrif's office was tipped off about the party and caled in the State troopers. Like it or not, they broke the law, did the crime and will pay with time. End of story really, everything else you all dredged up has nothing to do with what happened.

Personally I'd like to see the age limit be raised to 25 for everything! No drinking, driving, voting, or going in the service until then. Between the ages of 16 - 25 most people have no brains and function on emotions. Kids today have been so protected and catered to that they don't have a clue what the world is really like and just because they are in college, doesn't make them smart or an adult. It is probably the most dangerous time in a person's life.

Sing a duet with me?

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WashingtonCoNative: I totally agree with you...Washington County Sheriffs office is a bunch of good ol boys and the reason I state that is that I a victim of a crime that included but was not limited to some of their own...Sick Bas++rds...

true4you you in serious denial its the pill capitol because the sheriffs department is part of the problem as are their "affiliates" the DEA that work with them!

Its the good citizens call for true4you!

politicallyincorrect:

Do you know of a college that does support underage drinking? Because there are a lot more campus's that support homosexuality. You can't even compare underage drinking to homosexuality.... The campus isn't going to change because you conservatives can't accept people how they are.

We can all point fingers and" shout " hate comments, but please remember, the Beaudoins are nice people; caring people, and love their family and community. I went to college with both of the Beaudoins and I am an alumnus of this fraternity. I'm proud to know them then, and am proud to know them now.

J. Bartek

Washington DC

Getting blown out of proportion as I can see.

I think the Sheriff Dept. did a good job.....now if someone got drunk and had an accident and people found out that the Sheriff knew about it and didn't do a thing........then a different song would be sung. Hell Donnie Smith has done more in his short time in office than the other adminstration in all their years in office.

JosephBartek...I am sure they are nice and caring people that love their family and the community they live in. Can you agree that someone made a gross error in judgment and unfortunately, it is now up to the court system to figure it all out? Do you believe that the fraternity also made an error by hosting a party where underage drinking took place?

The biggest problem I see here is the finger pointing and the "it's not my (our) fault". The "drinking age is to high, it needs to be lowered". The sheriff's office is "corrupt", etc, etc, etc... If you cannot take responsibility for your actions, why should we (society) make it easier for you?

some of the camp parties I threw would dwarf these college punk jams.

i had a stereo system that would make fish dance on top of the water. there were so many women in underwear jumping off the dock, you couldn't keep count.

camp parties are a part of growing up in maine, i bought a lot of doobies with the returnable money from those parties. what a great memory!!

one every single youth should have.

If this government can send 18 year olds over seas to face IED's, retards that will cut you heads off on video, and change the democracy in an entirely different nation than ours, then they damn well ought to be able to have a beer.

JD2008-yes it is up to the court system to figure it out. I have not heard the Beaudoins or anyone else in this situation pointing fingers, etc, etc. Judge not less you be judged. From what I have heard there is more to this situation. Unfortunately when the final decision is made as to who is innocent, it won't be in the paper or on the news. As usual in this society everyone is guilty until proven innocent and before that their reputation is destroyed.....JD2008 good luck with your judgemental attitude!

Whatever happened to personal responsibility?! The students were well aware of the fact that the cops knew of their plans and knew the consquences if they were caught.The students need to grow up and stop blaming the authorties and Kim Page for their actions.

Oh yes WashingtonCoNative I am so judgmental. I am not the one not the one calling all the sheriff's deputies in Washington County dirty. I have not named one name on these post. I have not the one who named a particular Lieutenant on the WCSO and made accusations.

I have maintained that the WCSO did a job which by statue they are charged to do. They cannot ignore or look the other way when they have information like this. I have also maintained that those charged will have there day in court.

I have not assassinated anyones reputation nor have I said anyone is guilty here. I have said that they have been charged (of summonsed) to court and the court will sort this out.

I have reviewed every single post on this article which I made and I can find no reference to any of the things you have accused me of. I did call out one person for posting for what I considered (and still do) a racist comment. Now, if you can provide me with a specific example(s) of my finger pointing and judgmental attitude I would like to see them.

JD: regretfully, I do not agree that this 'was a gross mis-judgement'. This get together was supposed to be for people(alumni) Jay's age(45). I know the Beaudoins, and I don't think they know anyone from UMM that is currently going to school.

I think underage people 'crashed' this party and by the time anything could be said, it was too late.

I stand by the Beaudoins.

I will grant you that it is a possibility that the party was crashed. Time will tell.

I know for a fact that this party was not crashed. Jay is an alumni of the frat who threw the party and was more than willing to let them party there with him. The people who are being charged with crimes are all guilty.

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I'm nice right now, man

I-I feel good

If you have a drink

Would you please put it in the air?

That party last night was awfully crazy I wish we taped it

I danced my ass off and had this one girl completely naked

Drink my beer and smoke my weed but my good friends is all I need

Pass out at 3, wake up at 10, go out to eat then do it again

Man, I love college

I wanna go to college for the rest of my life

Sip Banker's Club and drink Miller Lite

On Thirsty Thursday and Tuesday Night Ice

And I can get pizza a dollar a slice

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I am champion at beer pong

Allen Iverson, Hakeem Olajuwon

Don't even bounce, not in my house

Better hope you make it otherwise you naked

Time isn't wasted when you're getting wasted

Woke up today and all I could say is

Um, that party last night was awfully crazy I wish we taped it

I danced my ass off and had this one girl completely naked

Drink my beer and smoke my weed but my good friends is all I need

Pass out at 3, wake up at 10, go out to eat then do it again

Man, I love college, ay!

And I love drinking, ay!

I love women, ay!

Man, I love college

I can't tell you what I learned from school but

I could tell you a story or two, um

Yeah, of course I learned some rules

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(No, we're not leaving)

And don't have sex if she's too gone

When it comes to condoms put two on

(Trust me)

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Hold the beer bong, nothing wrong with some fun

(Here, hold this)

Even if we did get a little bit too drunk

Time isn't wasted when you're getting wasted

Woke up today and all I could say is

That party last night was awfully crazy I wish we taped it

(I wish we taped)

I danced my ass off and had this one girl completely naked

Drink my beer and smoke my weed but my good friends is all I need

Pass out at 3, wake up at 10, go out to eat then do it again

Man, I love college, ay!

I love drinking, ay!

I love women, ay!

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Now if everybody would please

Put their drink as high as they can

As high as they can

(As high as they can)

And repeat after me

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Chug! Chug! Chug! Chug!

Freshmen! Freshmen!

Freshmen! Freshmen!

Do something' crazy! Do somethin' crazy!

Do something' crazy! Do somethin' crazy!

Keg stand! Keg stand!

Keg stand! Keg stand!

(That party last night)

Man, I love college

I love it!

(That party last night)

Alright everybody, I gotta head back to class for a little bit

That party last night was awfully crazy I wish we taped it

(I wish we taped)

(You know it's going down)

I danced my ass off and had this one girl completely naked

Drink my beer and smoke my weed but my good friends is all I need

(You're all invited, bring your friends)

Pass out at 3, wake up at 10, go out to eat then do it again

Man, I love college

Do I really have to graduate?

Or can I just stay here for the rest of my life?

Police never make a situation any better. In this case the Washington County Sheriff's Department came on to private property and busted a campout. Yes that's right, a camp out in the middle of the woods and if i'm not wrong, when you campout, you don't drive, you sleep in a tent. Anyways, after the police busted the campout they then ordered intoxicated students to drive home. When students told police they could not drive, the police said if they didn't leave right then, they would be under arrest, leaving students with no choice but to risk it and drive. Is this right for the police to put young people in bad situations like this? I personally don't believe for a second that they cared about the wellbeing of thises students. Each bust is more money for more police toys. If one can't have a campout in the middle of the woods anymore without being under threat of having police bust it, then what can we do? The entire thing has been blown way out of proportion. Police should go after sex offenders rather than kids having a good time. The Washington County Sheriff's Department needs to get its priorities straight. Thanks to them, a fun, peaceful campout was ruined, and oh yeah...they put drunk students in vehicles to drive home on they own....I just can't get over that, seriously.

Mainer123...The police have a duty to act when, they have reason to believe a crime is or has been committed. The fact that this took place "deep in the woods" has no bearing at all.

If as you say, "Anyways, after the police busted the campout they then ordered intoxicated students to drive home. When students told police they could not drive, the police said if they didn't leave right then, they would be under arrest, leaving students with no choice but to risk it and drive. Is this right for the police to put young people in bad situations like this?" If this is the case, then you should take your evidence and go to the County Commissioners Meeting and ask them to investigate it.

"If one can't have a campout in the middle of the woods anymore without being under threat of having police bust it, then what can we do?" I will tell you how you can avoid the problem the next time....do not violate the law and the law will have no reason to "ruin" a "fun, peaceful campout".

Again, if the WCSO did indeed "put drunk students in vehicles to drive home on they own" I urge you to take what ever evidence you have and give it to the BDN, the Washington County Commissioners, the Maine State Police or the Maine Attorney Generals Office and demand an investigation.

JD2008-you are so naive. You obviously work in law enforcement or are the spouse of someone who does. BTW-you are judgemental.

johnbrown-you do not know anything for a FACT. Unless what you THINK what you have read or heard is FACT. Knowing for a fact means that you where there and part of the situation. Let the court decide what is FACT.

WashingtonCoNative (WCN) - So at 7:21 PM yesterday I was "judgmental" and now at 4:58 AM I am "naive". So exactly how am I "naive"? Is it because I tell people to report allegations of wrong doing by the WCSO? Or, is it because I hold peoples feet to the fire and not allow them to throw out allegations to "muddy up" the water swirling around this case?

To answer you allegation about me, I worked in law enforcement 30 years ago for 5 years before I moved to Maine. I have not carried a badge and gun since, my choice. My spouse does not work in law enforcement and never has.

I asked you last night to list the examples from my posts of how I am "judgmental" and you still haven't because you cannot.

Well WCN keep up the good fight by looking for judgmental people here on the pages of the BDN because you will not need to look beyond the mirror on the wall. (Yes, that is judgmental based on post from your 5/5/09 at 7:21 PM (calling me judgmental), 5/6/09 at 4:58 AM (calling me naive) and 5/6/09 at 5:02 AM (telling johnbrown that he knows nothing). WCN have a wonderful Wednesday/

They must of scooted across the 19 road to avoid detection.

Of course the 19 road is a little rough and your beer gets shaken up on the way.

all there really is to do in washington is drink and whatever.i know this as i was born and raised there until i moved here to bangor.

D2008 I do agree with you about reporting violations about the WCSO but here is the dilema.

The county is run by the "Good ol' Boy system," or Cronyistic public Corruption,

. The family that has the biggest stronghold is the oil peple the Mathews.

Now if Mathews likes ya peachy but if not your as* is going to be in a sling.

WCSO was involved with my being victimized i and terrorizing after. I came forward with witness to the federal Authorites about an arson cover-up and more....One of the WCSO involved with terrorizing me was rewarded with a raise in rank...In view of how I was terrorized and how the NEPOTIST CROYNISTIC WCSO and the DA and et el contributed to the corruption i will call the queer LT whatever the F**k I want. He trerorized my roomate and frightened her so that she and chid moved the next day...Just a good ol' boys...lalala never meaning no harm...Wake up JD2008 this is the real world and Maine is a police state...

"Again, if the WCSO did indeed "put drunk students in vehicles to drive home on they own" I urge you to take what ever evidence you have and give it to the BDN, the Washington County Commissioners, the Maine State Police or the Maine Attorney Generals Office and demand an investigation. "

LOL yeah try living or working in that countyu after that.

That place is like something out of Hazard County on the Dukes of Hazard. It is out of control and the people in charge are the problem.

"Willey said that anyone who hears of underage drinking parties should contact the Washington County sheriff’s office." Yeah, right! Gimme a break, Wiley, I have kids.

Three law enforcement agencies KNEW about this and with all the people involved, could not have STOPPED it. Underage drinking is a crime and three law enforcement agencies waited until it got underway. . .THEY KNEW WHERE TO SHOW UP WITH PORTABLE BREATHALYZERS. I doubt they got all geared up on the fly.

They should have been standing there before the party started. I think every cop who knew in advance should be charged for allowing this to happen. Did they get EVERY kid that ran off into the woods that night? If not, then those cops should be charged with negligence, child endagerment, and fired for allowing kids to drink.

OK, try this Rachel and newportres.

If either of you have any creditibile evidence, I can think of several lawyers that would love to see it. Or how about this, give it to the BDN. I am sure they could use it to write a story about the "good 'ol boy" sheriff's department. Oh, but let me guess, all the lawyers and newspapers are part of the cover up too!

Yeah, Maine is such a police state. I see cops lurking behind every tree and bush just waiting to pounce and harass me and arrest me.

I AGREE WITH BOOGYMAN, GREAT JOB GUYS , NOW GO AND SEE IF YOU CAN OUT DRINK THE CAPTAIN. OH AND LETS CHARGE OUR COLLEGE STUDENT WITH UNDERAGE DRINKING. I AM SURE THEY WILL WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIVE IN MAINE BECAUSE THEY HAD SUCH A GREAT EXPERIENCE HERE IN COLLEGE. WAY TO GO MAINES FINEST

"The Sheriff’s Department received a tip that a party was going to be held and contacted the Maine State Police." WAS GOING TO BE. They had time to bring the State Police in on it, did they already have units up there that failed to stop it? Or did both agencies wait until it was in full swing?

"between 50 and 100 young people held a party late Saturday night" Was it 50 or was it 100? Shouldn't police be able to make a better guess? They left themselves a 100% error rate, Well done.

"Some of the party goers ran into the woods" Did they catch them? Did they walk back to campus or did they drive?

"Police confiscated three kegs of beer and unidentified drinking paraphernalia" Three kegs, wow, lot of booze. Drinking paraphernalia? Cups?

"Willey said, working with newly acquired portable Breathalyzers" New toys? In a "pretty wild" situation. Nice way to take care of your Newly Acquired toys.

"Police also summoned 10 others on charges of possession of liquor by a minor" OK, so they arrested three, summoned ten, and three weren't drinking, (maybe that's why those three didn't run into the woods) so they go thirteen to sixteen percent given an attendance of 100, 26-32%, for fifty. That means that a lot of partygoers ran into the woods. Somewhere between 34 to 87 people got away, and not one arrest for OUI,

"Willey said that anyone who hears of underage drinking parties should contact the Washington County sheriff’s office." And trust you with kids I know, I wouldn't let you babysit!

Anyone who has seen my posts know I always stick up for the police and I am not in law enforcment nor am I related to anyone. But these numbers, from the sheriff's own words speak for themselves. FOUR angencies knew about this, and this is their best?

JD, I usually agree with most, if not all of your posts, although I am not sure the reverse is true. I have heard most of what happened with Rachel and her story does have a lot of points that cannot be just dismissed. There are few lawyers that can afford to be involved in her fight.

From my last post, this story needs to be investigated just from what the WCSO has told us themselves.

Every police officer I have ever dealt with here in Maine has been helpful and kind. But that does not make them perfect. I will give the police the benefit of the doubt every time, but they have proven how incompetently they handled this situation in their own words. It's one thing to do a bad job or make mistakes, that happens, but to try to make themselves look good and justify themselves to the press. is another. Donnie Smith should have said that is was an ongoing investigation and he had no comment

I am sorry to say I voted for Sheriff Smith..

JD2008 In process in my life at this moment is the attorney who has been kind enough from the state of Massachucettes to explain the investigative process....At a federal level of course, and to what my rights are...YES MAINE IS A POLICE STAE! STATISM AT IT"S FINEST!

I was denied asceess to ALL judicial process in the state of Maine.All meental health crisis workers who conviently had cops as spouses OIUSTED me from their crisis lines after i took the loser LT to ourt. i was deneied access to their phone services as well...Boy was I pissed all the way to the Inspector General DC Copboy! They certainly liked my evidience...

This rag of a paper couldn't touch this story whe it was half way shoved up their cronyistic as**s! But certainly I like so many of the Mainers who post on here! At leat they tell what they see and experience and think...

You can take your law enforcement false ethics and shove it...you can take a cop out of ,law enforcement but you cant take the corruption out of the cop....

Thank you Raysgurl for your insight...even the ACLU said the case is too big, i just thank God everyday for the reprieve I have been given with my life....Legally thre are events turning in a slow but opposite direction here's hoping justie will be sevred even if it takes a long time...Thank God for my tenacity the federal government is real frusterating to work with in view of the amount of cases they have.

When I made a staement to one of the investigative branches of the federa government te womani spoke to stopped me midway through my speech ( before I spoke to the interviewer) and aske "Where did this happen Maine?" I didnt have to tell her she knew nd that was 2000 miles away!

Another thing JD2008 with your so called thirty years in law enforcement certainly if you saw what was happening with law enforcement cocaine and underaged girls why didnt you report it??? I mean if you were in the area...I dont mean Washington County...Or were you one of them? The cops?

Rachel, from one survivor to another, I was glad I could lend some support. Maine is more of a police state than Massachusetts, where I born and grew up. However, the city I live in Maine has a really great police force. I cannot think of a single criticism. They are people and as such I am sure they do make errors, but all have been very fair and helpful. Most of dealings with our police force had to do with health issues of a now deceased family member. They were always so there for me and for my family.

I am sure there are bad apples in police forces across Maine, as well as in other states. I was treated so rudely by a member of the Boston PD bomb squad, I wrote a controlled and polite letter of complaint. This was a traffic stop made by a uniformed member of the bomb squad on his way to work. I was waved through a red light by a civilian who was assisting a state trooper on a traffic detail for a large funeral. He didn't even see the state trooper until I pointed him out, but did not back off after the fact. I suggested he write me a ticket and we could meet again in a courtroom. He declined, feeling his verbal warning was sufficient.

I completely fail to see the "dangers" of this. Most of the kids were almost 21 anyways, no one was driving, there were tents everywhere, and everyone was just having a good time. We aren't talking high school here, we're talking college. Plus, about 80% of the people there were over the drinking age, only like 10 of about 100+ people were partaking in underage drinking. I think the cops wasted their time on such a minor thing to bust.

most of the kids were over**** 21

50-100 young people? Only 10 underage drinkers....Hmmm I went to UMM and thats...let me get a calculator...90% overage; You cant get that high of a ratio down at the Thirsty Moose. I didnt read of any OUI's or drug use so why is this a good use of tax-payer $. Wow ten underage drinkers in Wash. County....alert the press....yawn.

Rachael1962 First lets clear up some misconceptions...I was on a department 30 years ago. I was not on the department for 30 years. I got out of law enforcement when I had 3 friends killed in the line of duty. Two in Braintree (Lt Greg Principe and Sgt Ernie DeCross) and one in Milton (Metropolitan PD officer Robert Dana). I spent approximately 5 years in law enforcement and moved onto another career field.

You do not know me and I hope that you do take your case through the federal system. I was thinking about your situation this afternoon driving home (from my non-public employment) and thought of the Civil Rights case which you may have. I believe the FBI are the ones which investigate cases like those.

Not every single officer serving today across this country are dirty. Sure, there are some and they should be investigated and removed. But to say that all cops are dirty is like saying all kids that play video games are fat. Some are, but most are not.

I truly hope that you receive the justice which you deserve. But you are very much correct in one thing. Once a cop always a cop. I still hurt when an officer is killed in the line of duty. I still feel for the family left behind. I still feel for the brother and sister officers left behind. But that does not mean that I have, did or would cover up for a dirty cop nor did anyone ever accuse me as such.

I truly hope that you find the peace and justice you are searching for.

On the other side though WCSO has a responsibilty to act on information they are given...if they dont break up this party and something bad happens like an accident then people are going to be all over them so for that they did a great job. Im sure Osama Kim London-Page found great joy in this as all UMM almumni know of her hatred for parties and "greek" life. She knows as well as anyone that went to that party knows that sober rides were available to and from. Underage drinking is a no-no and just becasue everyone does/did it doesnt make it acceptable. One can not assume though that just because there is a party in the woods that minors are involved. I bet that on any given night there are more minors drinking on the UMM campus then there were at this party.

Rereading this article and some of the comments has me curious about something. This party was on private property. Who let the police in? They had no business being on private property without a search warrant. If they had a search warrant, then they had time to stop it. If they did not have a search warrant, then the odds are somebody's rights were violated. Having a telephone call about underage drinking does not constitute exigent circumstances, it is, legally, hearsay.

For those of you who have never been down this road, being charged as minor in possession of alcohol is a civil charge and your constitutional rights to illegal search and seizure do not apply. Even though it is considered a civil matter, fines and probation can still be handed out. Can someone explain why this is to me? Another thing I do not fully understand is requiring a minor to take a breathalyzer test. If you refuse the breathalyzer, then the officer issues a summons for a minor in possession. Apparently, that is what they have to do, so I would not fault any particular officer on this. Because it is a civil matter, minors do not have to be read their Miranda rights. This does not seem, to me, to be Constitutionally correct.

One of my kids was brought to the police station at 3AM. I knew where my kid was, or had been, and mine was not drinking according to the officer who brought my kid in, citing safety as a factor. Mine refused the breathalyzer because it appeared the mouthpiece had not been changed and the officer was not wearing gloves. The minor breathalyzed seconds before had been vomiting. I supported my child's decision even though I did not know the reasons for it until we were already home, and since the summons had already been issued, returning would have been futile. The summons was rescinded anyway.

JD2008..thank you for that and no I dont hate all cops...But rage can be blinding and the crime that was put upon me was a result of more than my witness to cocaine use and cops. Much more.

At the time I thought I was doing the right thing by reporting crimes against children. I had no idea where that would lead me.

There are a muti-faceted federal investigation in process which means nothing. Even under The Color of Law, this I state because the crime that was acted out on me was so sickening no justice will ever make up or they did to me. Even the corruption in he US Attroneys was thick.

To stand in front of a court while an officer lies ( while the FBI was present!) and to be degraded and victimized the way I was the Public Corruption grew and grew. The buy outs through everything from money to rank...and its still growing. Public Corruption is taken very seriously by the Federal goverment.

Maine state is a pluthera of PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

That is FBI but too there other investigations in process which could take years and years.What I am told they will be difficult to satisfy...Cops stick up for cops no matter how deranged.....Meanwhile until there is a prosecution I live my life in fear.

You don't know what it is like until you go to the police or Marshalls or government enties asking could they please tell you who is following them everyday and can they see when you take a piss?

You dont know what that is like to live in fu**ing fishbowl everyday while the fedral governement investigates and investigates and you know you have no say and no rights until the prosecution...Maine state governmentr employees lied and refused to investigate the crime they put upon me in view of a monier in Washingon County and the power h had while covering up his involvement in an arson crime...and then gave the investigation to one of the perps. ( the state did )..Pathetic...They have their attoorneys and counsel and corrupt systems...I get to play avoid whoever the hell is following me everyday...This I do while traumatized out of my mind and you bet your a** the good ol boys reading this are coming a nut...they like this action the infliction of pain on another person especially a woman...That night they showed up at my house one of them was in FULL Washington County Sheriffs Officer uniform...They broke my car I as in a rural area and I was drugged and interogated try that on for size and then convince the Fedral government there was a crime...Its been a long last year...

der_untergang----What came first the acid or the schrooms?

JD, an earlier comment of mine failed to post so I will offer it again. My condolences on the loss of your friends. They all paid the ultimate price and we do not, especially here in Maine, pay our men and women in uniform enough for that. I have never had anyone in my family in law enforcement. (Wish I could say the same about jail!!) Not me personally. My kid brother was roughed up pretty badly at 15 by our local police just outside Boston. He was already well over six feet at that age and the cops thought he was older. Not that that is any excuse. He was with kids his own age shooting off fireworks in the marsh near Logan Airport. My Mom refused to believe the cops would do that, until a prominent local business man called to see if my brother was OK. He had seen the fracas driving by. My brother was cuffed and was being beaten about the head and neck. When my mother went to apologize to my brother he was unresponsive and comatose. An ambulance took him to the local hospital where his injuries were treated. He was not admitted. We took turns sitting up with him all night eliciting a response every 15 minutes. He was not a pretty sight in court the following morning and the judge was less than happy about my brother's obvious injuries. Charges were dropped then and there. The two police officers stopped by later and apologized to my brother and to us, his family. These same two cops later befriended this fatherless boy (Dad was only dead mere weeks) and kept him out of untold trouble. Any time he was unhappy, guess who he went to? Forty years later, one still gets a call every Christmas morning. The other has passed away.

But cops today cops can't admit they make mistakes. If a cop said "Look, we blew this." there would be lawsuits for and against and these people would be out of a job. My mother never even thought about suing these cops, who paid his hospital bills before they were mailed. If you want to know why cops cover their own a$$, THINK ABOUT IT. Cops are people and they make mistakes. I was at my job a good few years when I pissed off a major client. I was called on the carpet. I said I had three things to say. Guilty, I'm sorry and Never again. I offered to cal the client and apologize in person. My apology was accepted with grace. I offered my employer the option of taking the cost of my error from my paycheck. They declined. Point is, I was honest and I apologized for what amounted to shoddy work on my part. I was being paid a lot more than the cop on the beat. I had better perks and better protection.

Maybe there should be an investigation here, or maybe internally everybody should sit down and see what they could do better, in a non-threatening environment. In essence, the sheriff's department has told the story. Now they need to say they are going to take a second look at what happened and do it. It does not need to be in the paper, but it does need to be done.

JD and another poster have touched on two core issues. JD says to take it to the Commissioners. Another poster says the person who does will be hunted down and their life made miserable. The sad thing is-you both are right. We need to fix this. We can do it by trying to work together. To do that both sides have to stop calling for each others blood. BDN could help by offering facilitated discussions, web casts etc. Who's in?

WashingtonCoNative- I was there actually. Hence my knowledge, but thanks. How bout you go snort some more oxys and get back to sleeping with your brother?

johnbrown, you were there? So, are you a friend of the accused? Were you? Nice way to repay your host. If you disagreed with his decisions, why did you stay? If you are over 21 and drank and partied with these minors, then you are just as guilty as he is. Did you bring your own, did you "share" it? Are you related to Jessica Brown? Hmmm, so many questions.Lt. Wiley is looking for you.

no one stayed the police forced the college campers to leave the premises. They were given the green light by the WCSO and State Police to drive if they had been drinking and allowed them to cram as many bodies into vehicles as possible (more than cars have seatbelts). As I understand Jeff Currier of the Forestry gave these students the AOK to party on private land and to "have a good time" just as long as they werent at rocky lake. Entrapment anyone? Reckless endangerment on the part of WC's finest? I think so. BANGOR DAILY find people who were there.....theres a bigger story here.

YOU CAN GO TO WAR AT 18 KILL OTHERS...BUT YOU CAN'T DRINK AT A CAMP...IF ALL THE KIDS ARE GOING TO STAY THERE LET THEM PARTY TO THE SUN COMES DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oceanmist-- You said that homosexuals are "born that way". Not true. No evidence to support that. Don't use unsupported wordage to support your point of view. This issue has been studied by scientists for a decade now and they had to at last agree that there was no "gene" or DNA evidence to support a person being homosexual at birth.

mainelifer -- right on! I was 18 when the drinking age was a legal 18 here in this state. I abused alcohol and it is a wonder I'm not dead or maimed or otherwise screwed up. The age should be 25. It used to be a service man/woman of any age could drink legally if they were enlisted; their age did not matter. Maybe that is a viable law to look at again. Usually (certainly not always) a young person's decision to enter the armed services signals a maturity in that person; possibly this person could "handle" the drinking more maturely.

Showm77 -- "sun goes down" -- the sun does not "come" down . . .

you are considered an adult @ 18, you should have all the rights of an adult @ 18.

I didn't start drinking until i was 23, and I used to party just as hard (if not harder) then these guys were.

viper13, don't believe that because it can't be proven scientifically (yet?) that homosexuals are not born that way. There is no scientific proof that God exists either but there are a lot of scientists that will still take His existence as a matter of faith. At one time people believed the world was flat. So many that are homosexual have known from very early in their lives that something about them was different. However, this discussion should be moved to the Gay marriage article. It has nothing to do with underage drinking!

The drinking age is 21; the law is the law no matter what the circumstances. Its not really the same as going 56 mph in a 55.

I know that when I was a college student, I may have been involved in underage drinking, but I was always smart and safe about it. There are people who are not, and there always will be, no matter the age. I know plenty of 30, 40 + year old adults who go to the bar, get pretty damn tipsy and then hop in their vehicle and drive home. Why not go monitor some of those people who do that every Friday night, instead of a bunch of college students who seemed to have been acting pretty responsibly about it. It even stated that some of the minors were not drinking at all. I have no problem with reporting people who are doing dangerous things, but it seems that nothing "dangerous" was going on here. There are no reports of anyone blacked out, or binge drinking issues. I'm an EMT and I've seen people do stupid things while drinking, and its generally not college students. In fact, many of them are too damn scared to get in a car and drive even after one drink because of the "zero tolerance" law. I am not condoning what they did, but almost every college student does it, and they just happened to be unlucky. I do realize that it is against the law, and that is the risk you take when you drink underage, but there should definitely be more going on to stop real crime in the area. I grew up in Maine, and it was always a safe and friendly place, but now that seems to be changing. Let's work together to clean the place up and stop the real threats.

LAUGH IT OFF, PAY THE FINE AND ATTEND THE NEXT PARTY. THEY MAKE IT SOUND AS IF YOUR REALLY BAD PEOPLE. I BET THE COPS WHO PLANED THE RAID NEVER EVER TOOK A DRINK.

Ok,,so let's get this right UMM is a "family" and if it were a good family then they would do all they could to keep their "family members" safe,this includes not drinking for members who are not of age,,,Hmmmmm,,,I wonder why people ran into the woods,if everything was going well? Camping? Yes,I am sure that they would have been camping and being good citizens..the facts as I see them are easy,,,,THe camp owner,an alumni and frat brother allowed people to party who were not of age is cited for underage drinking and is being held responsible for his actions,,,and paid a $500 fine,,hmmmmm...and I have deduced that a law was broken and someone paid for it,,clear and simple,,,This man made a mistake,he will pay for it,if he hasn't already,and ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

Laugh it off. . .this will show up on a lifetime of ackground checks because it is civil. This is the whole point of the discussion. These are probably not the worst peopl on campus or in Maine. They did break the law. I would still like to see a Constitutional challenge to this law. Making it a civil complaint should not be a workaround for civil rights.

All those listed by the police were 18 or over, they are legal adults, not legal drinking adults, but they are adults, so they should be responsible for thier own actions, they knew the law and they broke it. Now, anyone under 18 is a different story. And what does all of this have to do with Mr. Beaudions job and why did BDN call his boss? That was wrong, just plain wrong. Shame on you BDN.

Why cant we all just smoke a little and get along?

This whole situation was screwed up, coming from someone who has been immersed in the culture there as well as having a little more insight to the things that happen when these parties get busted up I have a very different opinion of things. People went there ready to set up camp for the evening and not drive home to eliminate risk, there were also sober drivers. These kids were people that went to this thing with friends that look out for each other. There was definitely considerably less than 100 people there, I'd like to see someone try and get 100 people from UMM to drive an hour away to hang out int he woods, it's hard enough to get people to go to events on campus. Maybe there needs to be some changes to the system, is it ok for law enforcement to come in break it up and tell everyone that they have to leave the area even if they are drunk. Seems to me that creates a bigger hazard considering i know of some people that had to cram more than the recommended capacity of peopleinto vehicles cause they were all told to leave. There is just this stigma about underage drinking that has pervaded our culture, but things change, i mean you can't put all your argument into underage drinking is against the law so it's automatically evil. Maybe it's time for a culture change.

Bail on Hinerman was $40 and he wasnt under the unfluence of alcohol. Good job messing up another story BDN, shame on you....again.