Yes on 1 campaign rallies supporters in Brewer

Hmmmm...look at the photograph...what does that tell you?

Vote No! on Question #1.

Rev Bob must have been hearing crickets in that meeting.

Let's vote "NO" on 1 and show America that Maine is all about fairness.

Vote "YES" on one. Poreserve the dignity of the human pesron and family...

Okay, FireFly, you're not even trying now...you just copy-and-pasted (complete with typo of "perserve") from the No on One rally article to this one...hence, my copy-and-paste response from that same article:

I also say preserve the dignity of the human person and family...by voting NO on Question #1.

Wow, a whopping 17 people! We had at least twice that at UMaine's showing of MILK tonight, as part of Coming Out Week on campus, and our showing conflicted with a question 1 debate on campus (though there was nobody from the yes side). Not sure how the "yes" voters can say a majority of Mainers want to "preserve marriage" when only 17 people care enough to hear one of their top leaders speak. I guess people are tired of the broken Record of hate.

I think it would be un-wise to underestimate how many Yes on One supporters there are...I still think same-sex supporters and the No on One position will come out ahead, but, it would be unwise to assume it's in the bag...

VOTE No! on Question #1...

PLEASE vote NO on ONE

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Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness... All men are created equal.... These are REAL American values.

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PLEASE vote NO on ONE

This election is nowhere NEAR in the bag. Everyone needs to group up and get that vote out!!!! People need to realize that this thing isn't over until its over. In order to win we need to do EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER to get our friends and family to the polls to VOTE NO on One! People who champion the constitution and equal rights for all will be more than happy to VOTE NO on 1.

Let's All Do Our Part to Make A Stronger & Better Maine by getting out there with, not only your vote, but your friends & Family's votes.

NO on One!

NO on ONE!

VOTE!!! By THIS TIME NEXT WEEK, we'll have an answer...

COUNTDOWN TO DECISION 2009: 6 DAYS, 8 HOURS

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NO ON ONE!!!

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I have to laugh at this pastors threat that his right to refuse to marry someone might be taken away.

He's as good a lawyer as he is a pastor.

I'd say it's pretty obvious the pastor doesn't have a deep understanding of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or, well, Question #1.

COUNTDOWN TO DECISION 2009: 6 DAYS, 8 HOURS

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NO ON ONE!!!

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17 people! That's pretty pathetic! O well, YES on ONE. The homosexual agenda has only begun. State Marriage Laws. Federal Marriage Laws. Religious Discrimination Laws. All so they can feel "accepted" by society and with the way they are railing against religion, dare I say it, God.

The battle has only begun, and I fear it will only intensify and get worse.

Oh great, more buffoonery from the "we hate gays" gallery.

I hope the people of Maine send a resounding message to you and your ilk.

TurkeyTalker: I don't know, I can't say, if "they" (by they, I mean homosexuals, gays, lesbians), want to "feel 'accepted'" or not. Just between you and me, and everyone reading this post...I don't care WHAT they feel. It's not about that. It's about what's right for mature adults in this society. We shouldn't be discriminating against one mature adult and not discriminating against another mature adult, based on their sexual orientation. Another thing, I don't believe sexual orientation is a choice (though I think sexual experiences can certainly -be- a choice), but what's important is, I don't care. If Person A wants to marry Person B, if both persons are of legal age to consent, and have the legal ability to give consent, there is no justifiable reason to deny them the right to marry and enjoy all the benefits of the civil marriage afforded to current opposing-sex marriages. None. It's a simple rights issue.

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NO ON ONE!!!

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This reminds me of the civil rights era people.

"The (n-word) agenda has only begun. State Marriage Laws. Federal Marriage Laws. Religious Discrimination Laws. All so they can feel "accepted" by society and with the way they are railing against religion, dare I say it, God.

The battle has only begun, and I fear it will only intensify and get worse."

People didn't buy it then, and they certainly are not going to buy it now.

Vote NO on ONE ~ because equality isn't just for the haters, which is what people who hate people who are in love ARE.

And thusly I retire to my cave of slumber where my opposite-gender wife awaits my presence...Have a good evening!!!

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Sorry little turnout.....doesn't look too great for the YES on 1 people from the looks of it.

Voted No on 1.

Don't be fooled by hardly anyone showing up...remember a lot of these people are cowardly and hypocrits who will say they are voting no and secretly vote yes!

NO ON 1

And what do I see in the picture that is posted? Older people that are stuck in their ways and will never change their mind. The bigots are dying off and that is a good thing.

Vote NO on ONE

Don't be fooled.......the Yes on 1 crowd are more closeted than the gays.

"On 10/27/09 at 11:00 PM, TurkeyTalker wrote: 17 people! That's pretty pathetic! O well, YES on ONE. The homosexual agenda has only begun. State Marriage Laws. Federal Marriage Laws. Religious Discrimination Laws. All so they can feel "accepted" by society and with the way they are railing against religion, dare I say it, God. The battle has only begun, and I fear it will only intensify and get worse. "

No, turk...not so we can "feel accepted". I don't really care if you accept me or not. But I will do whatever it takes to assure that you can't legally discriminate against me based on my sexual orientation. And if you want to call that goal the "homosexual agenda", I won't argue.

Nobody would be "railing against religion" if the people of that religion would stop picking fights with us. You trash us at every turn, then whine when we call you out on it. "Boo hoo, they're calling us bigots". Well, stop acting like bigots if you don't like being called one.

Voting "NO" moves us as a society in the right direction. More and more people are understanding that the walls of hate need to come down...now.

Stephen Colbert had a great show Monday night. Check out "The Word" segment on comedycentral.com where he takes on the referendum in Washington state. It's brilliant.

For those unfamiliar with Colbert, his uber-conservative persona is totally a tongue-in-cheek alter ego.

Hi All u didn`t rally think that kitty and I could go to bed so early, did ya.

I agree with BlueAmbience (my favorite color) But I want to travel back in time to WW 2. Ya know, back in the Good vs Evil days.

What would Gen George Patton do Today, NOW when organized an on the Offense. Well the allied forces had been kicking butt for sometime when ALL of a sudden, the evil nazi, re-organized and Yep, Bastonne and the Battle of the Bulge became our History and was in the News. Now most Gen`s including that English one (can`t remember his name now) but I still remember his answer to what can we do for our American Boys. Our surronded, vastly outnumbered, hardly any food or Ammo to defend themselves. So what did that unknown Gen say, well Bro`s I know they are in deep trouble and if we put all our heads together I`m sure we will come up with something someday.

Well Gen Patton who had been trolling and hardly could condain himself (you know the one we remember). After all his Bro`s were sitting on there hands and thinking about going out for a drinkey poo after a long day of trying to figure out how to save our Boys.

Gen Patton stood up and said, Guess what Bro`s (ya gotta know he was kinda looking down at them, don`t cha) I thought this mite happen (ya know in his crystal ball) or was it (studying ALL great battles in time just so he mite better understand the way of the evil empires) and I have had my staff and my Great Soldiers all ready for this battle. All I have to do is release the DOGS. What says ALL the other Generals. That is impossible. Well one of our Histories Greatest Generals went to the Map and showed them HOW he and his Great Trained Soldiers just wanted to get herrrra DONE because they just wanted some peace and quite and go home ASAP. And besides that, those are our Boys out there and I`m going to go show OUR BOYS and the face of EVIL how very much WE DO care.

Well we ALL know how Gen Patton had a Great Pastor (cough pardon ME) that magically cleared the weather so the Battle of the Buldge could end swifty. In the mean time a certain Major I think was telling the Face of Evil that hell NO we won`t give up and here is a BIG FAT NUT from our Boys to your wanna be boys.

Our Boys kicked butt after God only knows how tired they were from the march just to get there. (ya know the one no one said could be done)

Now I am assuming that all our Boys felt pretty PROUD after all DAT and maybe party some and rested and got up and said what next to get home ASAP.

Well you gotta know by know that the Greatest American Eagle of All Times stood right up and SAID. OK Boys we have them on the run now. And we are not going to stop now, until we get errrraaa DONE. Just because ole George new Dang well it was almost done. He did not in anyway show any concern at ALL that a Great Victory was at hand for ALL his fine men and women of the Good ole USA.

Dem dang dogs never stopped barking and howling at the evil face of darkness until the were home and new the had Gotten errraaa DONE.

Would Gen Patton care that 30 states had made the wrong decision in our History. Would he care that a State like Calafornia, (a great and beautiful State that now in our present History seems to only care about themselves and dang sure not about the worlds children. (just look at the movies they make OMG)(and the mistake of not being prepared about over conferdance) Nope the ole Gen would of Stood Tall with his Pearly GATE Pistols and led the way to the one of the Greates Victory in WW2 of our Past History. And quess what he retired honorable and gracefully. For mostly thats all he wanted really needed, not what he really wanted, Ya know to finish the dang thang w/the USSR thang Dah!!!!

We ALL know what we gotta Do, stay relaxed and confident and just have fun, for you just gotta believe That Maine is Going to Stand Tall and make More USA History just becaus WE ALL want to be Free and watch our grandkids say, grandpa what the heck was ALL that About. And then they well be Proudly telling there KIDS how PRoud WE ALL are of MAine and the Good ole USA.

What a predictible Landslide victory this is going to be. Just because it is the PUUFect Time.

I am just am oh so PROud of what WE as a People are about to Achieve for the Whole World to SEE. Yep that is the good ole USA

Too bad the organizers didn't inform anybody that this event was taking place. I would have been there with a few hundred friends and supporters.

Well Folks someone on here on someday in the past said it very WELL

(This is NOT California) or any other STATE this is Maine. Rock Hard Coastline Tall Magistic Pine Trees freakin Maine. Black Bear Country!!!

And a very Long Tradition of saying Just Look at US we will be the First to Stand Up for ALL of Us.

ALL we gotta Do is work hard, Pump Up the Volumn and Keep those Suckers on the RUN.

My God Fighting for Freedom will keep ya up all night, don`t cha know.

Comon ya ole Maine Coon Cat we got to get some sleep because there is still work to get done. And one Mother of A party to prepare FOR everyone!!!!

Does anyone ? my Vote Today. Please just anyone. Please help us get the job done. Pretty Please.

OK ElactraGlide. Put down the Crown Royal and go to bed. It's past 3 am. You've had enough.

Emrich, you speak utter nonsence! Maine Won't Discriminate! VOTE NO ON 1.

ewwww broke back mountain comes to a vote, do you want to see 2 men walking down your street holding hands, kissing, with a little boy, or kids involved, it aint normal, and it,s wrong, and it,s gross. i,m with ya rev, let god take care of the no's, just like he promised he would. these kind of people, never belived in gods word, and let em try to use a bible when they get married, theres another x on there souls. we say it,s wrong.... GOD SAYS IT,S WRONG, so thus your saying you dont belive what god has to say, out of the only book god has. i dont go to church on a regular basis, but i know what the bible says now for 50 years, i,ve read it. and this isnt right, so even if your gay marriage passes, you still have to deal with god, good luck with that!!! it says you,ll burn in hell. and theres no maine fire dept . down there to put you out lol, VOTE YES!!!

noreasternelly :

Like they will be in the streets showing public displays of affection. They will do it as much as heterosexuals do it,,,, NOT!

Excellent photograph...whomever took it

YES ON 1

"NoreastNELLY"? Nelly??? (FYI - it's a very old term for an especially effeminate male, but that's another story.)

I was going to suggest that we boycot Jeff's Catering, but for all I know, he's just scraping along and trying to make a buck. Heck, I got dragged to a barbeque place in SC that was owned by a KKK member. Admittedly, it was good barbeque. But, I digress.

You read the quotes from the pastor and you just wonder when his spaceship arrived from another planet. If anything, Vote NO on 1 drives home the distinction between a religious ceremony and the state-sponsored civil license. How Article 1 would be challenged with forcing a religious ceremony of SS couples is a stretch. Churches that refuse to perform inter-faith and inter-racial marriages have not been challenged except in the court of public opinion. Of course, the news had a recent article about a JP who refused to marry an inter-racial couple but he was an employee of the State - different story.

As far as the Catholic charities and pulling their adoption license. The service they are performing (legal adoption) seems to fall outside of what a church normally would do and is heavily regulated by the State for the safety of the children concerned. I don't know the particulars but did the church "give up" the license or were they "forced" by the State to turn it in? Knowing the Catholics, I can see where they would refuse to comply and thus stopped the service. I can see where there'd be a problem if they discriminated against inter-faith/inter-racial couples, too. Churches are not without some restrictions. I am pretty sure their clubs that serve liquor must be licensed by the State.

But, now I am way off track.

The whole point here is that we cannot become complacent and let down our guard. It is critical and I mean very critical that everyone get out to VOTE NO on 1. As important is to pick up your friends, drive them to the polls, get them to VOTE, and maybe take in dinner afterwards! Make it a GET OUT THE VOTE party! You can watch together the returns come in.

I am envious of you all. I am a Mainer who will be retiring back to Maine to the old family farm in a few years. I cannot vote there yet. It would be a great honor and pleasure for me to cast my VOTE NO ON 1 vote.

After this, we really need to get a general "Human Rights" bill in-place as has DC. That is, those matters related to the rights of human beings cannot be legislated or voted away. For example, you could not reinstitute a ban on inter-racial marriage or on slavery. You never know when the bible thumpers (Taliban Lite) will be around the corner trying to "save" us whether we want to be "saved" or not.

VOTE NO ON 1!!

vote YES, keep the crossdressing, same sex couples out of our state and away from our kids !

MaineJeff::: You hit the nail right on the head. VOTE NO on 1. Vote today absentee!!!!!!

Brokeback Mountain? Great movie. And, just goes to show you how times used to be. Here are two people who loved each other more than anything but instead "suffered in silence" due to what society thought of them. It is one of those "love lost" stories. In the end, and too late, Ennis is left to lament at the loss of Jack, killed by a pack of intolerant hoodlums.

The pastor speaks of "acceptance of their lifestyle." I would say "education of the masses." Last time I checked, Mainers had the right to "live and let live" and to be "left alone." There is something in the Constitution about "self determination." Lofty goals, true enough, but achieveable.

As far as walking down the street, "God forbid!" holding hands! Egad! Considering how I have to watch young people in a mall trying to suck each other's brains out through their mouths, let us hope the SS couple with a child (I believe was the example) shows a bit more class. Presumably, they will.

Catholic Charities of Boston gave up the adoption license by choice rather than allowing children to be adopted by homosexual couples and we know how safe those children in Boston were with the Catholic Priests !! This is the same Church that is funding Yes on 1 in our state .

You had your special treatment, but now you want to lose it, you will not be able to scram discrimination when you lose your job, can't get a loan and tossed from your apartment, cause you'll be equal.

Someone let me know where the( NO) Victory gathering will be and I will bus them up from Belfast. VOTE NO!!!! VOTE today by absentee. As far as (RNBLNCHRD) what if one of those crossdressing,same sex couples end up being one of your own children? Such hatred and antiquated ways of thinking by you. Blind eyes cannot see. For the idiot who posted about the two sissy's holding hands in the grocery store. I know more gay men that seem masculine than hetro men. That isn't the point. Stick to the issue at hand. Which is equlaity. The Catholic search is the last organization to be spewing what is right or wrong. They are man made laws. Marry a duck for all I care. It's my right!!! Just be respectful. Get out and VOTE today. VOTE NO !!!!!

VOTE YES ON 1, PRESERVE THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN RACE. THANK YOU.

Why oh why would anyone want someone to marry them who didn't want to. I would never challenge this law in court, you know why? Because my husband and I already have someone who will marry us. He will be sanctioned by the state. BY THE STATE, NOT THE CHURCH to marry us...that is because marriage is a civil institution, sanctioned by the state.

Love the photo...15 old people behind the times wanting to perpetuate hate.

rnblnchrd: Crossdressing??? That's a new one.

Here's the deal. Most crossdressers are heterosexual males. No idea why. Don't really care. I look like Ethel Merman in drag. (Just kidding.) I would wager that if you saw a gay guy in drag, it would be so good, you'd never realize it was a guy.

I really think, at this point, you are grabbing at straws. If 0.000001% of guys show up in drag, it will be an attempt to bring some sense of fashion to an area when plaid and flannel seem to rule. Just speculation.

VOTE NO ON 1 !!

MaineFoxx: Marry a duck? Sounds pretty fowl to me.

(Sorry, could not resist.)

What does the photo tell you Dave? It tells you that the BDN is definitely not concerned about reporting news, they are concerned with pushing their agenda.

rnblnchrd cross-dressing? does that include men who wear kilts and women who wear pants ..... if you include women who wear pant then there are a lot of cross-dressing women in Maine... maybe the next referendum should strict dress code..... looking at the picture that goes with this story I see several cross-dressing women.... same-sex couples .... hard to keep them out of the state as many were born and raised here...... your statement in my opinion is very prejudiced and bigotted.... do you suggest that a specific group of Maine citizens be rounded up and railroaded out of the state.... or that the borders including the one between Maine and New Hampshire be patrolled to prevent anyone fitting that description be denied entrance?

Lyn

SPDY455: Huh? BDN pushing their agenda? The photo is the photo. If 17 people showed up in an auditorium and sat where they sat, that's the photo, plain and simple.

Would it have been better to have crammed everyone into one section, take the photos and then cropped the empty seats? I am sure the Pastor and the YES people would have liked that but that would have been "pushing their agenda."

The photos is what it is. Accurate.

SPDY455 so the BDN was the reason there was a low turn-out or did they make people move out of the picture before they took it..... the article clearly states that there were less than 20 people attending..... someone earlier said they didn't know about it .... and that is BDN pushing an agenda?

Lyn

LOL CGGAGE: Fowl? Good one :>) VOTE NO today !!!!!! Id marry any man, just to show I could. Yes I am male. Granted not a nelly male but alas a male. Get out and vote today. Absentee. Be respectful

I don't think anyone who is going to vote yes needs convincing or tend to be the activist type and have to attend these gatherings. I haven't found much support for the no vote in conversations with people. You can be sure this issue will have a large turnout. I already voted yes absentee.

this is all wrong ,you people that feel that voteing no on 1 is going to make things better really have to wake up ! same sex marraige ? Come on ,get a life !.

where are going here? think really hard before you go in a cast your vote , yes on 1 is the best choice . if you want to bey gay , fine be that way ,but dont mix it with marraige . man and women , not man and man ,or women and woman ! get a life!

Vote Yes on 1 !!!!!

It only takea a small amount of people to do great things when God is in it. If NO passes, He isn't far from the scene. Even so, Lord Jesus, come and take your people home. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the day of the coming of the Lord. No nation under God, God is crying.

Yup, that crowd looks white and grey. The "NO" folks should not worry ... younger voters will overwhelmingly vote "NO" and the opposition is passing away. If not this year ... certainly soon in the future.

hmmmmmmmmmmmm that's cause for one, we all didn't know about the meeting and two, we already know how we are going to vote..YES ON ONE ! I don't need to got to a meeting..I was taught that way as a kid, still feel the same way..I haven't changed my belief system..

This is kind of a non-story. Surprised it is even covered due to lack of particpation.

Already voted no on 1. NO ON ONE. Caribou for NO on 1.

When all is said and done this all boils down to a battle between good vs evil. Evil is winning. You may not have a deep faith in God, but there is no denying the overwhelming presence of evil spattered throughout the news on a daily basis. When evil takes hold it causes doubt in the very existence of God. It causes you to doubt Gods word, the bible. Evil is intent on destroying what God has established. I believe homosexuality is one of the last steps in the battle to destroy our society. History has shown that rampant lust, unbridled sex, perversions such as homosexuality has been the downfall of great empires. Maybe we are too proud here in America to believe something as benign as lust could take us down as a country. Look at the havoc just a few men armed with box cutters caused on 9/11. Our churches were all of a sudden filled to capacity. Most of us knew it would be short lived. We run to God in times of trouble only to abandon Him once things smoothen out. I used to think that sin is sin, homosexuality being no different. The more I read and study scripture the more I'm convinced this perversion is uniquely different. Who would argue that murder, stealing and the like are wrong? No one in their right mind would teach their children that murder and stealing is wrong.What makes homosexuality so different is its ability to fool the masses into believing these people are so genuinely nice and who really cares what they do behind closed doors. This will infect our children, this will be taught as normal. Our children are already buying into this perversion while parents lack the fortitude to stand up and say how wrong it is. Our society has bought into the lie that you are bigoted and hateful if you don't come onboard with this. While it is true that they are nice, sincere people, they are also caught up in the very perversion that will destroy the fabric of our society. This will be our last chance in Maine to be able to make a last stand with our votes. Don't be fooled in complacency, into thinking it really doesn't matter. The consequences will be profound and unchangeable. We are the proverbial frog slowly being to death in the bathwater of immorality.

Vote yes the gays can move to Mass. if they don't like it here.

False religions will always attempt to distort Scripture because they must eliminate God's truth before they can justify their own lies. Beware of their subtleties, and be strong in God's Word

Cliffordmc: Birds of a feather. Check the young voters and anyone in District 1.

scoobydo: Spell checker.

FunnyValentine: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. One needs to be (1) of Christian faith, and (2) a reader of only the old Testament, to agree. Many of us are neither.

JohnnieT: Agreed, but we need everyone to not let down their guard. Get out and vote. Assume nothing. We finally are at the river. Now we need to cross it.

someonefrombangor: Very noble. Wrong, but very noble. This is just intolerance on your part. There are groups of people who annoy me (loud, rude, crude, discourteous, ill-mannered, disrespectiveful, hateful types) but I put up with them and would not deny them the right to marry. I might wish to deny them the right to breed, but that is a pie-in-the-sky utopia scenario.

VOTE NO ON 1 !!!

Oops, meant to say the proverbial frog being "boiled" to death in the bathwater of immorality.

Persons authorized to marry people can decline to marry gays and will always be able to and they SHOULD be able to because that is religious freedom.

The Catholic Charities of Boston issue-1st, there are gay families now who can legally adopt children. This is a red herring issue. 2nd, read Mr. Ketterer's piece today about what happened in that case.

This really boils down to a small group of people who do not like gays, no matter what they say, and will do and say anything to prevent us from being fully equal Americans. Why are they afraid of us? What have we done to them?

Joe

ForHIMtoday. Can you give us a list of approved religions? I don't think my church is intolerant enough-I need to find a new one.

FunnyValentine-how is it that YOU know exactly what God is doing and feeling? You're supposed knowledge of Him is amazing-I don't think I've ever known anyone (other than ForHIMtoday) who has a direct line to God Himself. How could the entire world not know this until now??

Joe

they need more chairs, Maine is really going down hill, Oh well its Obama Country what do u expect

forHIMtoday: I have read your comments over the days. It is pointless to point out reality. You are wrapped up in the religion you believe in. That is fine. Marx called it the "opiate of the masses." Despite being a pro-business Republican (not the neo-Christian types who invaded and destroyed the RNC), I have to agree with Marx. According to you, everything comes from God. So, God gave you a brain to think and presumably the right to live. I won't begin to argue theology with you as I find the topic deadly dull and of zero importance in my life, except to study the history of its great accomplishments in the arts but tempered with the oppression and destruction wreaked on cultures that did not meet their particular guidelines. I may burn in Hell but at least I won't be shoveling any more snow.

joesalters: Conversely, assuming the NO vote prevails and the law of the land as enacted by duly elected legislators and signed by the Governor prevails, can we rely on you to also move out-of-state to, oh, say, some Islamic state that executes gays, adulters, and whatever else is on the menu that day? No booze or fornicators allowed, either. Should be right at home.

VOTE NO ON 1 !!!

regularjoe: Why are they afraid of us? What have we done to them?

Simple. We exist.

VOTE NO ON 1!!!

hmmmm only 17 people turned out for this rally, yes there is LOTS of support....

finally 4HIM is admitting that not all sin is equal - homosexuality is indeed a greater sin in his mind "I used to think that sin is sin, homosexuality being no different. The more I read and study scripture the more I'm convinced this perversion is uniquely different." ....... many of us knew you thought that way all along.....

"What makes homosexuality so different is its ability to fool the masses into believing these people are so genuinely nice and who really cares what they do behind closed doors." ...... so now you've decided that we aren't nice people and no it is no one's business what any loving couple does behind closed doors.

"When evil takes hold it causes doubt in the very existence of God." .... 4HIM your posts have caused me to doubt not the existence of God.... but to doubt the word of the self-professed "true" christians ...... those great christian leaders who spread hate and discontent ..... those who were stating that it was gay and lesbian people who caused 9/11, Katrina, HIV/AIDS, MSRA and so many other things .... the ones caught red-handed in their hypocrisy... violating the word of God while preaching against those same actions. The Bible was never intended to be used as a "weapon" in promoting hatred but it has been used throughout history for that purpose..... you "true" christians don't like to be compared to white supremacists (KKK), the Taliban or the Westboro Baptist Church... the message is the same message from you all .... just more subtle so it is tolerable to the general public.

Lyn

Joe, there are no approved religions. Religion is mans attempt to reach or appease God or gods. There are thousands of religions, you can even make up your own version. Christianity is not a "religion", its a personal relationship with God Himself through the Person of Jesus Christ. He came and walked in the flesh among us and if you have ever read His word You will find He had his harshest words with the "religious" leaders of that time. Jesus was not "tolerant" as so many have made Him out to be. He was intolerant of sin, and make no mistake homosexuality is a sin. There are many "religions" that say otherwise, but they are no different than any other religion, they make their own rules. "Christ"inanity is about Christ, and Christ is the God of the bible. Jesus is the only truth you will ever find, and His truths are found in the bible. So you can have the same direct line that I have once you turn your life completely over to Him. Anything else is a lie.

On 10/28/09 at 7:57 AM, joesalters wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

Vote yes the gays can move to Mass. if they don't like it here.

Vote NO and you can move to Utah if you don't like it here

Well! "free2bee", that was a mouth full...

Your false god has deceived you.

The Invisible Sky People have ordained in their sacred secret invisible churchy texts that they will will bring PLAGUES upon the state of Maine if Gay Marriage is banned.

The first will be the Plague of Ice - the Invisible Sky People (who are more invisible than your false god BTW) will transform rain into ICE crystals for the NEXT 5 MONTHS!!!!

The Plague of Ice will be followed by the Plague of Mud and Potholes. Roads will liquefy and open to swallow cars whole!

Verily, the Plague of Mud will be followed by the Plague of Biting Flies. They will darken the sky and make life outdoors an unholy misery!

...and Lo, the Plague of Biting Flies will be followed by the Plague of Flatlanders. They will clog Route 1 and drive badly all summer long!

Do not invoke the wrath of the Invisible Sky People!

For it is written in the Invisible Holy Text that those that seek to ban Gay Marriage in Maine will be cast for all eternity into the Flaming Lake of Allen's!!!!

Save yourself brother!

Vote No on 1!

Lyn the fact is you are the one living the perversion and at the same time trying in vain to twist scripture to make justify it. you are the one who is no different than the taliban. Rather than planes and bombs you are accomplishing the same effect using only a perversion.

I think by and large most people are good. I had an opportunity earlier this year to talk to folks gathering signatures for this referendum, and I left with an understanding that these aren't evil people who are opposing my rights.

In many cases, these are people who have grown afraid of a world that doesn't look much like the one they grew up in, and so when social changes are put before them they react in a way that tries to keep things as they've always been.

In some cases they feel that homosexuality is wrong, but I'm not going to change their mind on that by getting angry about it. Instead I try to be approachable, so folks can understand that there are far more things we agree on and have in common, and we don't need to let our differences divide us.

I'm voting NO on 1, in the hopes that we can move past these unnecessary barriers and confront the real problems of the world together.

I personally am not a religious zealot as seems to be the case from reviewing some of these comments. I only would like to ask any of them, how this could possibly effect their lives? I'm not hearing anything from that quarter but hate based on religion. And I was brought up believing Jesus was all about love. I don't think all church goers are hate mongers. I certainly would not stand by and let others throw religious people out of my town or state because I don't agree with their lifestyle or beliefs. There is room for all, except haters.

"Christianity is not a "religion""

Well, if what you say is true, then christianity deserves no constitutional protection...

Might wanna reconsider.

This wasnt mentioned until a day earlier it was going on. So chersully dont get your high hopes up aka karenlite. The yes side is gonna take this but might not be with a landslide

Too bad there is actually so little written word that came from Jesus' mouth...... tell us 4HIM, when you and He have conversations .... is it repetition of His words that were recorded by the men who wrote the Bible or is there more ... if it is just repetition of recorded scripture then you aren't really listening to His messages ..... Christ didn't condemn anyone.... which is what you are doing in your posts. What makes your personal relationship with Him better than anyone else's? The most important word there is "personal" .... as in individual..... stop telling people that the "personal" relationship they have is a lie.... God works in mysterious ways..... for everyone who believes in HIM

Vote NO on 1 to maintain the Freedom of Religion for ALL, To protect ALL Maine children and families under CIVIL LAW

The fact that there were just a few people at this event really says nothing. There are thousands of us who will have the say next Tuesday. Personally, I didn't know about this meeting, and I probably wouldn't have attended anyhow. I really don't need to hear more about the "issue" to know how to vote.

Voting YES on Question 1, for traditional marriage and against the abomination!

4HIM you do not know how I live, you don't know what my partner and I may or may not do in our relationship, isn't that what you base your interpretation of my alleged perversion on ..... we are together because we love, trust and respect each other ...... why are you with your wife?

Lyn

DavidReed said: "I'd say it's pretty obvious the pastor doesn't have a deep understanding of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or, well, Question #1. "

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Oh, I think he has a verry good understanding of them---it's just that he's trying to CHANGE them. It's what the fundies have been doing for years, trying to pit civil rights against religious rights...trying to get "religious rights" (1st amendment) to trump freedom of speech, press, assembly (1st amendment). They don't realize that with "rights" come responsibility for what comes out of their mouths---in direct contrast to the scriptures they supposedly hold dear. Even their false man-god reiterated it.

at 8:44 AM, musician wrote against the abomination!

What dark music -- I can still hear it playing from 1939.

Another of the multi-thousands of straights voting NO on Question #ONE. For equality for all under the Law and not for so-called "moral feelings" flotsam.

Regardless of the outcome next Tuesday, a day of judgement IS coming which will show who was right and who was wrong. GOD WILL have the last word!

oops...judgment

musician --- Then let's wait for god on this one. Go tune something.

CGGage,

No, don't boycott Jeff's---you KNOW if Jeff's didn't accommodate the (cough) "good reverend" then Jeff's would be accused of religious discrimination, persecution, etc., even if they were already booked up that night.

Yes, the Catholic Church gave up their state license to handle adoptions---but it didn't have anything to do with same-sex marriage---the Catholic Church didn't want to be held to the State non-disrcimination laws that were in place LONG before 2005.

God created us all equally, and our constitution protects us all equally.

Vote NO on 1, and affirm the value of ALL Maine families.

Big crowd! Ha! I hope the same Yes on 1 turnout happens on November 3rd.

Maybe more YES voters work.

Just curious....

I have been reading all these posts to various articles for weeks now. Here is what I seem to see:

The YES people's arguments relate to either violation of some biblical/relgious edict or fear that current events will be taught in schools. The third reason is really simple - people just hate gays for whatever reason.

Have I missed any reasons for the YES votes? Pretty shaky reasoning to me.

The NO votes: That is everyone else.

9:24 AM, realist38,

"Tuesday evening"

I somehow don't think jobs were what was keeping people away...

realist38: More YES people work? It so, they work 2nd shift. The photo caption reads "Tuesday evening." Must have been a Jerry Springer rerun festival on that night.

I feel like I'm being labeled as an alien or something.

Supporters of passing question one believe that I don't deserve what they take for granted everyday.But they marry, divorce, marry, divore and now that gays might have the chance to marry ,well they're having a fit about it? Why do they claim something is so special and only for a man and woman couple, when more then 50% divorce? Give me a break!

Pastors upset because they feel like they might have to perform a gay marraige? Well first of all more than likely gay couples probably avoid your intolerable church in the first place if they know your beliefs about homosexuality. I know if I were to get married it would not be by any religious figure, unless I knew he or she was VERY accepting and a loving of EVERY person of god.

I really dont understand, we are your brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts , uncles, mothers, fathers, co-workers, friends and neighbors. We grew up with you, went to school with you, worked hard with you, and fought side by side with you. Shouldn't we have the same rights as you? When we were children we did. Why not now as we are adults? Please Vote No on Question 1, Thank you for reading.

After reading all of these comments I can only say, I think both sides are filled with hate, bigotry, & intolerence.

musician said: "Regardless of the outcome next Tuesday, a day of judgement IS coming which will show who was right and who was wrong. GOD WILL have the last word!"

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The "day of judgement" you fundies wax so eloquently about is the day of your own death. It is a belief that has been held since the Egyptians ruled the middle east. Since those who are still alive won't know what happened to you after you die, your "right and wrong" scenario will not come to fruition. You will be dead and buried, your family will mourn, and life will go on for everyone else until the day they die. Yep, GOD will have the last word---on what day you will die---when your time is up, your time is up.

Its funny how when the vote nos have a rally with eight people the BDN takes a close up and makes it look like there is alot of people there.

This is obviously published for an affect.

JoeDoe, please share what NO on 1 rally the BDN covered with only 8 people?

I haven't made any fun of the turnout on this rally, because I know this vote will be very close regardless of who is voicing their support ahead of the election.

It's important that everyone who stands for equality and fairness in our state VOTE next week (or vote early if you can!) and affirm that Maine values all families, all children, and all citizens.

Vote NO on 1, and make future generations of Mainers proud.

mainelifer, I don't think I come across as angry, but who am I to judge.

The time has come for me to stand up for something I sincerely believe in, and that is equal protection under our laws.

I speak out because I see such hatred spewed in the effort to diminish and marginalize children and families in our state that would absolutely benefit from the legislation that was passed this year.

I speak out because I see this hatred from groups of people who will go on with their lives, unaffected by this law should it stand.

I speak out because these honest, hard working families deserve the protection of our laws, for precisely the reasons that are so obvious on these forums— there are people out there who hold irrational hatred toward those they know not, and our state needs to come to the aid of minorities who are being made to feel like second class citizens by outsiders who will never take the effort to truly know them.

I speak out, and I say NO. I say ENOUGH. It is time to allow these families the security they deserve.

Vote NO on 1.

Of course, the people of Maine are for "equality". Just ask any ethnic minority resident. In fact, ask a Native American.

scottalan22 said: "Pastors upset because they feel like they might have to perform a gay marraige? Well first of all more than likely gay couples probably avoid your intolerable church in the first place if they know your beliefs about homosexuality. '

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scottalan22, I hear you! It reminds me of when my dad got remarried. My parents were lifelong Catholics, married in the Catholic church. They got divorced. My dad met a wonderful woman at work who also happened to be a divorced, practicing Catholic who was married to her first husband in the Catholic church. They wanted to get married, but they knew the Catholic church wouldn't perform the ceremony, so they went to the Baptist church across town. Both the Catholic church priest and the Baptist minister are state officials duly authorized by the state to draw up a civil contract called marriage. Both had the legal right to refuse to draw up the contract, and they don't have to give a reason. One excercised that right, one didn't.

IF ONLY THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE WOULD COME TOGETHER TO KEEP MARRIAGE HOLY BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN....WE COULD WIN EASILY!!! BUT, WE NEED VOTES FROM ALL CONGREGATIONS TO DO THIS, TO INCLUDE THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES OF MAINE. WE KNOW THEY SUPPORT STRONGLY 'YES' ON ONE. THIS IS A MORAL AND ETHICAL DECISION WHICH SHOULD BE MADE BY PEOPLES OF A L L F A I T H S !!!!!!!!

MAINE IS ABOUT F A M I L I E S....... !!!!

I agree with maineLifer,both sides are full of it.I see that both sides are wrong but which sides will hurt the children the most two daddy's or two moms or a Husband and wife .

Vote YES on one !! keep maine right! Did anyone think that the people voting yes on one didn't want to be in the picture.

10:21 AM, mariahstorm,

"Beware of false moralists, which post here in self-righteous clothing, but inwardly they are ravening bigots. Ye shall know them by their CAPS LOCK."

Tedlick 7:15

“It just is crazy to say it’s not going to be taught and promoted” in schools and in the media...

***I didn't learn about marriage in schools. That was something I was taught to me by my parents.

In the world’s 5,000 years of recorded history, he said, marriage has “always been between a man and a woman.”

***To include arranged marriages, marrying kids with kids, marrying adults with kids and incest. Glad society has evolved from that.

As he sees it, the editorial positions do not reflect the views of either paper’s readership or staffs but rather those of “a very small handful of people.”

*** 48-52% of Mainers polled, depending on which survey you read. That's significantly more than a "handful".

“Most people believe in the need to protect traditional marriage,” she said, putting out a call for campaign contributions and volunteers.

*** See above.

During the session, Emrich noted that LD 1020 “does not just extend rights to another group of people” but rather “radically redefines marriage for the state of Maine.

*** Considering other states already have sema-sex marriage, as well as other countries.. I'd say the definition is already "radically redefined". Oh, wait.. it's not. Last I checked, the christian right does't hold the the rights to the word "marriage".

“As a pastor, I already have the right to say yes or no” when asked to perform a same-sex wedding ceremony. If the state’s law is not repealed, he cautioned, Maine will be “setting up a situation where it could be challenged” in court.

*** Umm.. the law CLEARLY affirms separation of church and state and freedom of religious beliefs. If these whack jobs would actually read the law, instead of trusting what they've heard from the MFPC or whatever other biased source, they would realize that.

He also noted that a same-sex marriage law in Massachusetts resulted in some unintended consequences, including Catholic Charities of Boston’s having to give up its adoption license because placing children in same-sex marriage households conflicted with its religious beliefs. “That’s what will happen in Maine,” he warned.

*** Personally, I love being compared to Mass at every turn. I don't really care what's going on down there.. if I did, I would live there. Besides, who would want to give their business to any organization who is so openly opposed to equality and is full of bigots and hatred? Not me. I stopped going to the Salvation Army store because they tainted the few good things they do with political propaganda outside their store.

On 10/28/09 at 10:22 AM, pcme2000 wrote: "Vote YES on one !! keep maine right! Did anyone think that the people voting yes on one didn't want to be in the picture."

If that's the case, then they don't have the courage of their convictions. I think the case is, rather, that the rally was poorly attended. And rightly so. Emrich is a liar. And a poor one at that.

mariahstorm: Civil marriage is not "holy." Or unholy for that matter. Civil marriage is a legal contract. (And typing in all caps is considered rude.)

Way to go BDN !

I see a picture of empty seats for the "Yes on 1 Campaign rallies supporters in Brewer"" ...I read "Seventeen people showed up for the event." (Picture 's worth a thousand words....isn't that right , Ms.Gagnon ?

I review the" No on 1" "Get out the vote event"...(What ' s this , no picture????) ..."attended by Gov.Baldacci and 'several" families "(What , no numbers???)

Where was the picture of the the "Yes Get out the vote event"???? Where were the numbers in attendance ???? Hhmmm....Veeery interesting!!!!

Do you agree that sometimes one paints a better picture in the reader's imagination through "suggestion" , than with actual visual images ?

Since I did not attend either event , I was interested in seeing pictures from both events and interested in knowing the "ACTUAL" number in attendance at BOTH events . Why were these not provided when reporting both rallies? Is this fair and balanced reporting ?

Oh wait, this IS the Bangor Daily News I am referencing ..... That explains EVERYTHING !

I agree it would have been better for BDN to publish the # of those attending the NO on 1 event as well, because they presented these stories side-by-side invoking such comparisons.

But it doesn't change the fact that we should vote NO on 1 and uphold this important, good law that extends civil marriage protections to ALL Maine families, while affirming our religious freedoms.

Vote NO on 1.

JBlake said: "“As a pastor(Bob Emerich), I already have the right to say yes or no” when asked to perform a same-sex wedding ceremony. If the state’s law is not repealed, he cautioned, Maine will be “setting up a situation where it could be challenged” in court.

JBlake's response: *** Umm.. the law CLEARLY affirms separation of church and state and freedom of religious beliefs. If these whack jobs would actually read the law, instead of trusting what they've heard from the MFPC or whatever other biased source, they would realize that.

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JBlake, you are correct, however, here is what "jumped out at me" just now.....the referendum question specifically says "Do you want to repeal the law granting.....'that allows individuals and religious institutions to refuse to perfom them.' " IF q. 1 passes, these fundies can claim they are now being forced to perform these ceremonies against their religious beliefs---in violation of the 1st amendment. Yes, I KNOW they can't prevail because if #1 passes, the church will be prohibited from marrying same-sex couples---BUT, the fundies would still be able to make the outlandish claim and get the idea into the minds of their sheep and other uninformed people of Maine. Remember, the fundie agenda is to make the state and eventually the world a theocracy---a christian world where christians rule. So, they have to get all the protections for non-christians removed from everwhere they can.

MaineJeff: You Said: "Don't be fooled.......the Yes on 1 crowd are more closeted than the gays."

Shame will do that to a person.

Vote No! on One!

SPDY455: You Said: "What does the photo tell you Dave? It tells you that the BDN is definitely not concerned about reporting news, they are concerned with pushing their agenda."

It tells me there were a lot of empty seats at this non-event. Really. You can't make that up, that's why it's a photograph...it's there, plain to see. If the photograph showed a packed room, you'd stand on your keyboard and write ad nauseum about how great it was that the room was packed, and you wouldn't question the motivation of the photographer or the BDN. Which is exactly what all what said was "What does it tell you?"

Evidently, it tells you that you are being picked on by the big, bad, BDN.

Tiny violin, playing just for you.

*rolls eyes*

Vote No! on Question #1!

On 10/28/09 at 8:49 AM, free2bee wrote:

4HIM you do not know how I live, you don't know what my partner and I may or may not do in our relationship, isn't that what you base your interpretation of my alleged perversion on ..... we are together because we love, trust and respect each other ...... why are you with your wife?

Lyn

Just the fact that you are married to a woman (in your own eyes) and the fact that you twist and distort the bible not to mention teacing it to the children you are in direct contact with is perverted enough. What the two of you do in your bedroom only adds to it.

False religions will always attempt to distort Scripture because they must eliminate God's truth before they can justify their own lies. Beware of their subtleties, and be strong in God's Word. You can't hide from this, you can't change the facts no matter how hard you try. This is going to catch up to you no matter what and you are taking so many down with you.

FunnyValentine: You Said: "Lord Jesus"

Oh, you crack me up. I'll laugh about that for a half hour.

Vote No! on Question #1.

Respectfully disagree that a Vote No on 1 "affirms our religious freedoms"....in my view it does quite the contrary.

Vote YES on 1 !!

Please uphold THIS important, good law...

Vote YES on !

"What the two of you do in your bedroom only adds to it. "

BWA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAA! Oh, man, that's good.

You should go into stand-up 4him.

"Respectfully disagree that a Vote No on 1 "affirms our religious freedoms"....in my view it does quite the contrary"

A point of view for which you have no evidence.

I simply dont think the majority of " yes " voters felt the need to go to a rally such as this...I for one, didnt even know about it, and am involved in the " Yes" campaign. The " Yes" voters strongly know how they feel, and nothing is going to change that. I would go so far as to say that the negativity and name calling from the " no" vote is even swaying some of the voters that havent quite decided over to the " yes " side.

yeah how foolish huh teddy, you crawling into bed with another man, and I'm the one who somehow has things backwards. Silly me.

I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

maineismyhome and cggage : We are not disputing what the photo shows..we are pointing out the obvious lack of balance when NO photo was posted from the No vote rally and missing was the ACTUAL number in attendance for the No rally...now do you get it?

That is where the bias rests.

Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion...

12:03 PM, forHIMtoday,

I never said you had anything backwards.

Your obsession with what others do in their bedrooms is freaking hysterical though! And, frankly, none of your damned business.

at 12:03 PM, Telefunkinu47 wrote: "I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body."

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It sounds like you're on your period too.

On 10/28/09 at 12:11 PM, haakon wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

at 12:03 PM, Telefunkinu47 wrote: "I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body."

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It sounds like you're on your period too.

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Don't be a hater.

Who's hating?

tedlick: forHIMtoday is just upset because neither sex will crawl into their bed.

Is there such a thing as latent heterosexuality?

YES ON 1

YES ON 2

YES ON 3

YES ON 4

YES ON 5

YES ON 6

YES ON 7

THATS WHAT MY BALLOT WILL LOOK LIKE

On 10/28/09 at 12:11 PM, tedlick wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

12:03 PM, forHIMtoday,

I never said you had anything backwards.

Your obsession with what others do in their bedrooms is freaking hysterical though! And, frankly, none of your damned business.

If becomes my business when you want to teach it to my children as normal, it becomes my business when you want to redefine marriage. It becomes my business when you want special rights. Thieves steal, liars lie, murder's murder, homosexuals do what? Its what you do, now your pretending to be what...celibate?

"If becomes my business when you want to teach it to my children as normal"

I don't want to teach your children anything. That's your job.

"it becomes my business when you want to redefine marriage"

What? Do YOU own the word? If so, I have bad news... same-sex couples get married all the time. You've already lost the definition of your word... sorry.

"It becomes my business when you want special rights"

You mean the same special rights as you have? Yeah, we want in your special club we do! What a silly argument.

You have real hang-ups on homosexual sex 4him... I think you'd probably do more to squelch that by watching gay porn.

"Thieves steal, liars lie, murder's murder"

Thieves harm others. Murderers harm others.

See what is up with this guy folks? He actually thinks that two people in a meaningful, victimless, consensual, perfectly legal relationship together is as bad as stealing or killing someone.

And yet he calls us "abominations"...

What a bad joke.

teddy that was a whole lot of nothing.

"teddy that was a whole lot of nothing. "

Huh?

1. I don't wanna teach your kids nothing.

2. The definition of marriage has already changed.

3. The idea of special rights is an argument of desperation.

Those don't seem like nothing to me. You just know you have no counter arguments.

Freaking out about how someone else has sex in the privacy of their own home is pathological, 4him. You really need help.

you climb into bed with another man nightly....who needs help?????

2:31 PM, forHIMtoday,

You do. You're pathologically obsessed with something that doesn't affect you in the LEAST.

At least most Yes voters are truly concerned for their culture and town... You're just freaked out that members of the same sex have relations in the privacy of their own homes.

Even other Yes voters find that obsession to be insane.

it has absolutely no affect on you. Why are you so obsessed? There are many other things in our society that are far worse than two people sharing a bed, but you ignore all of it completely.

What, exactly, caused this pathological mindset with homosexuals?

A "no" vote only reveals how liberal and perverted Maine has become.

Come on, 4him... tell us why you have this obsession with homosexual sex?

Oh, and while you're at it: can you show us any harm to the nations and states that have extended same-sex marriage?

You seem so sure there is harm: can you show us?

wow...twenty people meeting...that was headline worthy...

On 10/28/09 at 2:31 PM, forHIMtoday wrote:

you climb into bed with another man nightly....who needs help?????

I would say you do because you seem to be the one who is so obsessed with it...

Yes, Drinky, it does seem like an obsession.

He worries about my sex life more than I do.

On 10/28/09 at 2:43 PM, drdoncrimj wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

A "no" vote only reveals how liberal and perverted Maine has become.

amen

its what makes you a homosexual, its what I've been against from the beginning, its what you do that makes you what you are. I'm starting to think your so out of touch with the reality of what it is you do that it no longer evens occurs to you that your with a same sex person. But, I suppose that is what makes your mind darkened. How would you even know? Here's the deal tedlick, men are supposed to marry women. Don't be afraid, they won't hurt you.

"One of the peculiar sins of the 20th century which we've developed to a very high level, is the sin of credulity. It has been said that when human beings stop believing in God they believe in nothing. The truth is much worse....they believe in anything." Malcom Muggeridge

tedlick said " At least most Yes voters are truly concerned for their culture and town... You're just freaked out that members of the same sex have relations in the privacy of their own homes.

Even other Yes voters find that obsession to be insane."

Are you living in some sort of dream or what, that was truly hilarious!!!

3:15 PM, forHIMtoday,

So it's JUST sex? It's not been 18 years of building a life, finances, investments, families... none of that?

Wow... you have a more unrealistic view of us lowly homos than I'd first thought. In fact, you have the most unrealistic view of the world that I've ever seen in anyone not willing to admit they suffered from mental problems.

"men are supposed to marry women"

Um... I've never seen that law of physics before. Where, other than your mythology, is this rule written?

Good... freaking... grief.

3:17 PM, forHIMtoday,

Obsessed... you are really obsessed with this aren't you?

Something that has absolutely no affect on you in the least...

C'mon 4him... explain why you have this obsession with men having sex together?

Everybody's baffled...

frankforter and scottallan, you are missing the point entirely. religions deserve the freedom to do what they want. not everyone agrees with the catholic church but that is their choice. (they are suffering because of their rules) but still it should be their choice what ceremonies they do.

and if you think some churches are intolerable. start your own gay church. you can have gay masses, gay dinners and gay whatever.

As a Christian, what is worse - a sexual act or not believing in Christ? The same consideration and respect extended to other religions should also be extended to the gay community. It is not so different than honoring another American's freedom in his or her pursuit of religion. Gays have far less choice in their orientation than others do with choice of religion. It's our duty to be Americans first. Americans first and Christians second, Americans first and Jewish second, Americans first and Muslim second. Always first Americans. Marriage was established by the SCOTUS in the 1967 Loving v. Virginia case to be a basic civil right. Ms. Loving herself supported gay marriage. Consider why she of all people did so. Gays should be entitled to the same basic civil rights as everyone else.

Honest question to the Yes voters...

Do any of you find 4him's obsession with homosexuality just a little bit odd?

Not talking the issue of same-sex marriage, but his obsession with homosexuals and what they do in their private lives together.

Just curious...

no teddy, America is baffled. Americans overwhelmingly don't want this .Black people you so love to compare yourself to overwhelmingly are against it. It has been voted down in thirty states, thats a 100% track record. God calls it an abomination. What part of this don't you get.

"Americans overwhelmingly don't want this"

Americans have overwhelmingly not wanted ANY civil rights protections to become reality... old news there.

You don't care about same-sex marriage though: you're obsessed with homosexuality itself. That's apparent to anyone who ever spends time in these forums.

Why? There are so many other things in the world that affect you more than what two gay men do in bed. Why are you so obsessed with it?

God spoke against a lot of things that are going on in the world around you, but you're not freaking out about those. This is your singular obsession: men shagging.

Why is that?

tedlick if your neighbor was into bestiality in the privacy of his barn, would you just overlook that tiny little detail and have him over for tea??

"tedlick if your neighbor was into bestiality in the privacy of his barn, would you just overlook that tiny little detail and have him over for tea"

What kind of insane question is that? Of course not... he's victimizing an animal.

Homosexuals victimize no one: that's why Lawrence v. Texas abolished sodomy laws.

The two aren't even comparable.

and your concern is for the animal??? How sweet. What if the animal consents to it. After all according to you its perfectly normal in the animal world. It would only stand to reason it has to be consensual between them otherwise it would be rape now wouldn't it. So which is it, consensual lustful homosexuality in the animal world or rape. If its rape, there is a victim. That should concern you. Why aren't you out there protecting all these poor chimpanzee's against such a terrible crime. If its consensual between them, then they are able to consent. could it be the man next door is just able to understand their language and you can't. Maybe you aren't a chimpanzee whisperer...buy hey, you could learn. Your neighbor did.

I have *one* complaint with the "No on 1" commenters on this article... nobody picked up on this little gem that forHIMtoday posted:

"No one in their right mind would teach their children that murder and stealing is wrong."

Really? I'm so glad I don't take lessons from your book of "morality" if murder and stealing aren't wrong.

Vote no on hate, no on insanity, no on discrimination. Vote no on 1.

Oh, and if that means I'll burn in hell (well, I'm pregnant out of wedlock, sooo I already will be burning in hell by your nutso standards), then I'm glad. If heaven is for your kind, I want no part of it! (not that I believe in it anyway)

hurricanechelsea : good points.

~ Please VOTE NO on ONE ~

Captain1: You Said: "maineismyhome and cggage : We are not disputing what the photo shows..we are pointing out the obvious lack of balance when NO photo was posted from the No vote rally and missing was the ACTUAL number in attendance for the No rally...now do you get it?"

I got it before it was posted. I'm just saying, that's pretty petty.

Vote No! on Question #1!

hurricanechelsea where did you get the idea you are going to hell for being pregnant out of wedlock? While its true that pre marital sex is a sin, you can be forgiven for that sin. You can be forgiven for any sin other than the one sin that the bible calls the unpardonable sin, and that is do reject the Holy Spirit. If you reject Christ up to the time you die, there will be no second chance, there will be no forgiveness. You need to want to be forgiven and make Jesus the Lord of your life. Don't let anyone tell you you can't be forgiven, thats just not true.

forHIMtoday wrote:

"and your concern is for the animal??? How sweet. What if the animal consents to it. After all according to you its perfectly normal in the animal world."

Uhm... What ?

Do you even understand what "consent" is ? Animals can't give consent.

Please Vote No on One, people ~ because it's just wrong to pretend animals can "consent" to have sex with forHIM.

4:03 PM, forHIMtoday,

Animals can't consent. I would hold a grudge against my neighbor for stooping low enough to rape an animal.

Bestiality is always rape, 4him. There is no informed consent in bestiality.

Yes: rape always has a victim, and that would concern me.

"So which is it, consensual lustful homosexuality in the animal world or rape"

Among animals? Consensual homosexual acts take place all the time. There is no such thing as consensual sex between an animal and a human being.

Um... I'm pretty sure that rape against chimpanzees isn't a very wide-spread crime.

"could it be the man next door is just able to understand their language and you can't"

You're stretching again 4him... you always do that when cornered. You're getting more absurd than usual.

Twist is as you like, there are no victims in consensual same-sex relations among people in your society. There is no crime.

I'm not out to save the world, you claim to be. I'm just curious why with all the horrors of a very real world are you obsessed with something that has no victim.

Your obsession seems impure, 4him, and you could do a lot of good for people who actually are victims if you really wanted to help out.

"If you reject Christ up to the time you die, there will be no second chance, there will be no forgiveness. You need to want to be forgiven and make Jesus the Lord of your life."

Damn, I'm screwed then. I don't want to follow the word of anyone who makes people think it's ok to hate or take away people's rights. That just doesn't fly with me.

"Please Vote No on One, people ~ because it's just wrong to pretend animals can "consent" to have sex with forHIM."

That may have just made my week.

"Please Vote No on One, people ~ because it's just wrong to pretend animals can "consent" to have sex with forHIM."

Wonder if I can fit that on a political sign...

and no, forHIM,

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even blasphemy can be forgiven, if you repent, if you sincerely ask to be forgiven.

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It's YOUR OWN PRIDE that is the worst sin; and none the worst than ANY blasphemy.

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You are no Bible scholar, so stop pretending that you are.

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Vote No on One ~ because we have a separation of church and state in America, and are going to KEEP it that way - for obvious reasons.

The meeting was not necessarily for supporters of the YES on 1 side. It was more for people who were undecided. All this tells us is that people have made up there minds already and don't need to hear any more.

teddy, you are the one who is cornered. You are the one trying to divert this away from what it is that you do. People into bestiality have sex with animals, homosexuals have sex with the same gender. Why do are you trying to avoid the obvious. Your trying to forcefully make it an acceptable behavior. You certainly aren't out to save the world, your out to try and pervert it. America has shown they overwhelmingly are against this behavior. If the bible is correct, which it is, then there are going to be countless victims. But hey, I know there's no reasoning with a man of your morals that still believes abortion has no victims. A man of your character is more concerned with an animal than with a baby being chopped to pieces. Your logic is screwed up. Got to go, but I'll be back.

hurricanechelsea I want to commend you for not having an abortion, kudo's to you. If your looking for some support, I can get you in touch with an organization in bangor that can help.

The only immoral person here is the one comparing two humans in love with two animals screwing.

SHAME ON YOU, YOU HYPOCRITE, YOU FRAUD, YOU LIAR.

You are no Bible scholar, stop pretending that you are.

This is the 1st time I have ever written on here, but I had to voice my opinion. To the homosexuals, you say you have no rights, well that is BS. You can get a job doing the same thing I do, so there is 1 right you have. You have the right to vote, you can rent a place to live just like me or purchase a place. The only thing you can't do is get married. I hope it stays that way. I can't look at another man and say wow that's hot, I want that. That just gross's me out. It is not right. Just the thought of it makes me sick. Men were not meant to be with men, they were meant to be with women and vice versa. That is why GOD made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Dave. I have heard so many times that "Oh I was born gay". Well news flash, you may be born handicap, you may be born mentally challenged, but noone is born gay. As far as your rights, you have no civil rights, because what you do is not civil to begin with. Then some of you talk about raising kids, well kids are supposed to have a mom and a dad, not a dad and a dad. I will be voting YES ON 1.

I don't know why ANYONE would bother listening to (((((4HIMself Today))))). On the issues he has the equal intelligence of an APE. He feels as though he has been ordained by Almight God in Heaven to lead his crusade of HATE, BIGOTRY, & JUDGEMENT. First off, I don't believe God would charge someone so low on the poll to be his Official Representative on Earth. Secondly I don't understand why 4HIMself feels as though he is a JUSTICE on God's SUPREME MORAL COURT. 4Him....you are the symbol of INTOLLERANCE, BIGOTRY, & MALICE. When the Lord came to earth he did not CRAM his message down the throats of others.....he offered it to those who would listen. He presented it and relied on FREE WILL. Have you ever heard of that???NOW.......Get your BUTT out of the THRONE that sits on the RIGHT HAND OF GOD. That seat is reserved for Christ. YOU ARE A FRAUD.

Let Ye Without SIN Cast the First Stone.

LET YE WITHOUT SIN....Cast the First Vote of Yes on 1.

Everyone Else.....VOTE NO............NO...........NO.......on One! The rest of us will use our hearts and minds to protect EQUAL rights for ALL Maine people.

at 4:50 PM, celticsrule wrote: "I can't look at another man and say wow that's hot, I want that. That just gross's me out. "

File under: "Signs that you may not be gay." cc to "Duh!"

celticsrule also opined: "but noone is born gay."

Prove it, Einstein.

I'd say your entry into the commentary was less than auspicious. Bummer.

“On 10/28/09 at 4:50 PM, celticsrule wrote I can't look at another man and say wow that's hot, I want that. That just gross's me out. It is not right. Just the thought of it makes me sick. “

And why is that? Because you’re heterosexual, no homosexual. You can’t grasp that fact? So because of the “ick” factor, you want to deny all gays the right to be married? Kind of selfish, isn’t it?

Please vote “NO” on 1.

BlueAmbience, you are right that when the Lord came to Earth he offered His message to those who would listen, so you seem to know a little about your Bible. Now allow me to ask. Have you ever read it far enough to where it says man shall not lay with man as he does with woman. And how 'bout the part where it says Man shall marry Woman, as I (JESUS) has married the church. It doesn't say man marry man or woman marry woman. I was just wondering.

celticsrule:

Lol, the good old leviticus line huh. Let us examine the proper interpretation of that:

Leviticus 18:22:

"You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13:

"If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."

Both of these verses refer to heterosexuals who participated in fertility rituals in order to guarantee good crops and healthy flocks, not homosexuals, there is absolutely no mention of sexual orientation or homosexuality. Also, the word abomination was used for anything that was considered to be religiously unclean or dealing with any type idol worship.

The Hebrew word "toevah" was used in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. "Toevah" has been translated in our Bibles as "abomination" or "detestable". The "toevah" was used throughout the Old Testament for activity involving ethnic contamination and religious idolatry. "Toevah" refers to things that were ritually unclean - like eating pork.

It is significant that another Hebrew word, "zimah," also translated "abomination," which means intrinsic evil or evil by its very nature, was not used in Leviticus 18:22, or Leviticus 20:13.

It is also significant that female homosexual relationships are not mentioned in the old testament. That's because they aren't talking about sexual orientation, they are talking about idolatrous practices.

celticsrule: Also, since you mentioned Leviticus, i got 10 questions to ask you.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than lying. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Homosexuality is not a sin according to the Bible. Any educated Christian would know that. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, prostitution, and rape, not homosexuality.

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html

http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php

http://www.gaychristian101.com/

Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.

This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God's will.

For those of you claiming homosexuality is a "lifestyle", that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html

Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html

http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html

http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

And it should also be noted that:

"It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organisations do believe it is impossible to change a person's sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association."

Why voting NO on 1 doesn't affect children.

http://www.mpbn.net/News/MaineNews/tabid/181/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3475/ItemId/9391/Default.aspx

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/125324.html

Voting No on 1 also doesnt affect religious organizations, since they are NOT REQUIRED to perform the marriages.

The people who collected signatures in Maine to stop marriage equality did so by misleading people, lying, and using deception. These people who claim to be "right" or "moral" but then use evil, sinful, lying ways. Here's what one of my friends from Maine told me.

"Sadly "Stand for Marriage Maine" collected many signatures by misleading people to believe they would not be able to vote unless they "registered" with those who were collecting signatures. At the Old Port Festival a woman at the top of Exchange Street was collecting signatures for the vote to ban gay marriage, but she was promoting it as if you were registering to vote. She said "Are you registered votes in Maine would you like to register here?" It was one sentence, she didn’t pause. I asked what we were registering for and she said "To determine if marriage is between a man and a woman or a man and a man or whatever." Then came the best part, she said "Would you like to sign so you can vote?" As if I couldn’t vote if I didn’t sign. She wasn’t telling people that it was a petition to stop gay marriage by putting it to a vote, she was convincing people to sign thinking that they had to or they wouldn’t be allowed to vote. There was nothing that even indicated what or why people where to sign. It’s not about Gay Marriage, it’s about Hate and Control. The fact they collected signatures so quickly only proves they preyed on the elderly and ignorant. This only provides evidence that many Mainers still have much growing up to do."

Do you really want to support people who lied to you, deceived you, who are trying to force you to spread discrimination and bigotry? Don't let these anti-gay people control your lives and choices. Support marriage equality in Maine and vote NO on 1.

To Haakon: Ok prove to me that people are born gay, even science shows that something drastic has happened in a persons life to attract them to the same sex.

Now to Seacoast: No not selfish, as I stated homosexuals have rights, you can buy the same car I might want to buy, you can shop at the same stores I shop at, etc. GOD didn't put Adam with another man, He put Adam with a woman (HER) name was Eve.

Read the WORD IN THE BIBLE, then with clear mindsets VOTE : YES ON 1. To all others voting no on 1 , Father, please forgive your children for they know not what they do.

MaineMaiden: Any real Christian knows that God loves homosexuals just like he loves everyone else. Don't use God to spread your hate. VOTE NO on 1.

As a pastor, I already have the right to say yes or no” when asked to perform a same-sex wedding ceremony. If the state’s law is not repealed, he cautioned, Maine will be “setting up a situation where it could be challenged” in court.

He also noted that a same-sex marriage law in Massachusetts resulted in some unintended consequences, including Catholic Charities of Boston’s having to give up its adoption license because placing children in same-sex marriage households conflicted with its religious beliefs.

“That’s what will happen in Maine,” he warned.

VOTE YES ON ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thankfully, gays will have full marriage rights soon, even if the amendment gets voted down next Tuesday, they have always been entitled under the 14th amendment. The marriage act (DOMA) must be changed to include gays being part of the amendment. Religion has nothing to do with civil law. When you think about it - laws are stable while there are many different religions/beliefs. Maine and the nation have laws - we are free of religion and free to choose.

Tolerance will prevail in our loving state of Maine - We accept and celebrate our differences.

A "NO" VOTE is a vote of happiness and well being for families.

Life is to live, laugh and love.

Peace,

K.- 1/2 of married hetero couple for marriage equality

It is a sad story, indeed, why did we ever get to this point? Someone is hurting out there!

Please Vote Yes On 1

" It isn't equal if it's sometimes - I want a real democracy.”

Papere: Trying to spread more lies? It cannot end up in court because the maine gay marriage law specifically states that churches DO NOT have to perform gay marriages.

And as for your MA case, lets examine the truth about that.

http://www.kipesquire.net/2006/06/gallagher-repeats-catholic-adoption-lie/

This is very simple: Massachusetts did not shut down Catholic Charities’ adoption program. The people who run Catholic Charities did not shut down their adoption program. It was exclusively and entirely Massachusetts’ four bigot-bishops (now three bishops and a cardinal) who, exercising dictatorial control over the agency, summarily ordered the adoption program terminated.

But perhaps the four bigot-bishops were merely expressing the collective will of their parishioners and of the dedicated experts who run Catholic Charities and its adoption program. How did lay Catholics and the professionals who actually work to place children with adoptive families feel about the bigot-bishops’ decision?

In December, the Catholic Charities board, which is dominated by lay people, voted unanimously to continue gay adoptions. But, on Feb. 28, the four bishops announced a plan to seek an exemption from the antidiscrimination laws. Eight of the 42 board members quit in protest, saying the agency should welcome gays as adoptive parents.

Got any more lies i can prove wrong?

VOTE NO on 1

Full marriage right, and equality, you people don't know what it means and using words to confuse the ignorant! I have voted by proxy and you know the way they are worded it, it is very confusing, that is the game, WORD GAME!

VOTE YES ON ONE ,, PLEASE!

To ShadowMan: 1st of all I don't claim to be a scientific scholar about gays, however I have been in church since a young age and I have been studying to be a pastor for some time now, and I believe I know my Bible a little better than you seem to give me credit. I also don't As far as your friend, if he is a registered voter he should have know that he didn't have to sign anything to register. Does your friend or you or anyone for that matter sign any document without looking at it. I'm not on here to debate whether yes voters lie or no voters lie, because if you ask me this whole forum is nothing but a slug fest. I am on here, because I wanted to see a little more about what is going on with this thing, but all I've seen is everyone downgrading everyone. So as far as I am concerned right now, my vote will stay a yes vote until someone on here can change my mind. Oh by the way I wasn't referring to the book of Leviticus. Read on.

It is a sad story, indeed, why did we ever get to this point? Someone is hurting out there!

Please Vote No On 1!

Yes, it is easier to COPY AND PASTE rather than write you own, what site are you people using to confuse the ignorant?!!

Vote Yes On ONE

I don't condemn anyone, but I don't believe that being gay is ok, it's not normal. I have my opinion just like everyone else has. If the homosexuals win the vote, it is not something I will freak out over, I just think it is wrong.

Straight, married, unfraid, and Voting No on Question #1.

The 'sad story" is saying that God/Jesus doesn't accept the love that people have, in this case - Gays - yes, Gays love and have families. We need to celebrate that - more love in the world - when are the nay-sayers going to see that ?..

Please vote" NO On 1" It's the best deal around! It's free and it brings us together!

K.L.

Copy and paste that is the questions, nice isn't it, do you own you will feel a lot better about yourself!

Vote Yes on 1!!!!!!!!!1

146 Hours to Go!!!

Straight, married, unafraid, and Voting No on Question #1.

Papere: Notice how you say all those things with no backup? And you expect people to take you seriously?

celticsrules: For one, the post was not my friend, as i mentioned, but a fellow gay man who's experiences i posted from another forum.

But more importantly, take a gander of these links. If you're studying to be a pastor, you would want to hear both sides of the story. But keep in mind, why would God hate anyone? God loves everyone. Why would he hate the very people he created?

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html

http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php

http://www.gaychristian101.com/

These go over all the commonly picked out lines, such as Leviticus, Romans, Corinthians, all of which i'm sure you know about.

ShadowMan, I don't know where you are getting all your info, but you seem to say that all the info the yes voters are getting is false and are all lies, how are you so sure that your info is right and not just lies. You seem to know a lot about this thing, but how does anyone on here know that you are right and not just full of sh*t, or just trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

celticsrule: Nice try in attempting to put words in my mouth, but this isn't about the "yes" voters, it is about misinterpreting the Bible. If you actually looked at the links, you'd know where i got my info from. Why is that info more valid? Because most people who take the anti-gay stance will pull biblical passages out of context, while ignoring the rest of the Bible. These interpretations done by historians and scholars examine the Bible in it's entirety, relates the historical times, examines each passage in relation to other passages, examines latin word in relation to other latin words. It's easy to see why the latter wins out. If i was trying to pull wool over your eyes, i'd just say homosexuality is not a sin with no backup. I've provided plenty of backup and logical explanations with proof that homosexuality is not a sin. It seems it is you who is trying to blind people with a hating God, when in reality God is a loving God.

Wow, some really funny stuff just Wow, I needed all those freakin laughs. Almost as good as gettin some.

now now none of that nasty thinking. I gotta go get some Red Bull for tonite. Don`t think much is going to happen.

Most are still crawling away bruised, bloody and dang close to raising the White Flag. u just gotta know this one.

who raises the white flag.

Da Bigots, I haven`t seen so many shock and awe since u already know when.

Thanks for the laugh.

Gotta listen to one of my favoriate songs (don`t get busted for singing Christmas Carols) personally I sing whatever friggin tone I want too.

Just my Right as I look at it. Still freakin rolling on the ole floor and I think I hurt myself.

Feel good about yourself ShadowMan, you seem to be the trouble maker, nice going. You will do yourself in, it is just a matter of time and I did not use any bad words and etc. to say this!

VOTE YES ON1!!

Straight, married, unafraid, and Voting YES ON 1 !!

Chalk up another one for the biased BDN . . .

Marriage is an institution that changes through time. Were it not so then underage girls in America would be "married" to pedophiles (even today we have the FLDS), women would have no rights to their children or to their wages, and interracial couples could not marry. Religions are free to be as bigoted as they choose, to exclude gay people and anybody else they don't like. Roman Catholics who divorce cannot remarry in the Church, and nobody will force the bigoted churches to marry same-sex couples. Leave the red herrings in the compost heap and vote to affirm marriage equality.

Papere: Lol, trouble maker? I've already exposed your lies, and you didn't like it. Also, here is why trolling doesn't work in relation to this issue, as you're trying to do. To be a successful troll, you have to incite anger. However, since i already know you're trolling, it will be impossible for you to rile me up. Also, with each troll, it gives me a chance to spread facts and help eliminate ignorance about homosexuality and gay marriage. It's a win/win situation for me.

EG, are you laughing because the bigots, including the fake pastor and FHIMToday, are getting blasted into the nether-world or what? ~

K.L.

Matthew 6:7 ""When you pray, don't babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered only by repeating their words again and again."

Straight, married, unafraid, and Voting No! on Question #1.

shadowman--one of the "wolves in sheep's clothing' the Bible speaks of . . .

On 10/28/09 at 6:46 PM, greyhound wrote:

shadowman--one of the "wolves in sheep's clothing' the Bible speaks of . . .

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Good call greyhound

greyhound : ahhh, name calling when you cannot win an argument :)

HRH419: Lol, you and your buddy forhim try to plagarize sites which i constantly disprove wrong, and you didn't like it. The truth hurts doesn't it :)

Proudly Voted No on 1 to give families , including many with children, the protections and benefits that other committed couples have.

Do you want a boost in Maine's economy and the creation of more jobs?

Do you think all children deserve to have BOTH parents provide financial support and medical insurance?

Do you think all people in Maine should be legally protected from violence and abuse by their significant other?

Do you think it is better to be in a monogamous committed relationship instead of being promiscuous?

Do you want to reduce the spread of HIV/AIDS?

Do you think that every child should be eligible to receive survivor benefits if one of their parents dies?

Do you want to protect your children from political issue ads that force you to have to explain things you feel they are too young to understand?

Do you want to protect public policy from being dictated by churches and religious organizations?

Do you think EVERY person in Maine should have equal RESPONSIBILITIES and legal culpability?

Is it fair that homosexual people should be free to leave a long term relationship without having to deal with the same divorce process heterosexuals do?

Aside from posting interpretation of biblical passages and trying to scare people by implying that the schools will start teaching same sex marriage in school, the people who oppose same sex marriage never give any rational, logical or factual reason to vote Yes on 1. They only attempt to manipulate parental fear to their advantage. It can be easy to give in to that fear but it is WRONG to give in to fear, especially when by doing so you are impacting other human beings in a negative way.

If you have done your job as a parent and talked to your children openly and honestly in an age-appropriate manner then you should have no fear of what they hear or see from others. If you are a good parent then your child will come to YOU with their questions and thoughts. Kids learn about far worse things at an early age. Homosexuality and same sex marriage isn't something kids are going to think or care about UNLESS their parents make a big fuss over it. The longer the battle goes on, the more kids will think about it. Just give same sex couples the right to marry and have the rights AND RESPONSIBILITIES that go along with it and then no one's kids will be exposed to all the media blitz on the subject anymore. If the Yes vote wins this isn't going to stop. It will only cause a much larger fight, more ads and more activism.

Do the right thing for Maine...vote NO on 1!

Actually, greyhound, It's more like a snake.

Repost:

The people who collected signatures in Maine to stop marriage equality did so by misleading people, lying, and using deception. These people who claim to be "right" or "moral" but then use evil, sinful, lying ways. Here's what one of my friends from Maine told me.

"Sadly "Stand for Marriage Maine" collected many signatures by misleading people to believe they would not be able to vote unless they "registered" with those who were collecting signatures. At the Old Port Festival a woman at the top of Exchange Street was collecting signatures for the vote to ban gay marriage, but she was promoting it as if you were registering to vote. She said "Are you registered votes in Maine would you like to register here?" It was one sentence, she didn’t pause. I asked what we were registering for and she said "To determine if marriage is between a man and a woman or a man and a man or whatever." Then came the best part, she said "Would you like to sign so you can vote?" As if I couldn’t vote if I didn’t sign. She wasn’t telling people that it was a petition to stop gay marriage by putting it to a vote, she was convincing people to sign thinking that they had to or they wouldn’t be allowed to vote. There was nothing that even indicated what or why people where to sign. It’s not about Gay Marriage, it’s about Hate and Control. The fact they collected signatures so quickly only proves they preyed on the elderly and ignorant. This only provides evidence that many Mainers still have much growing up to do."

Do you really want to support people who lied to you, deceived you, who are trying to force you to spread discrimination and bigotry? Don't let these anti-gay people control your lives and choices. Support marriage equality in Maine and vote NO on 1.

ya karenlite~~~never can fool a cool women now can ya.

the blood was hard to look at, as u so well know (:~)

HRH419: Lol, you and your buddy forhim try to plagarize sites

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If your going to accuse me of plagiarism, you'd better have proof.

I don't quote scripture or anyone's personal work ever...

Gays are losing nothing when they lose this vote. Equality will still exist. A "NO" vote will only harm the future of our young by informing them that this is an acceptable lifesyle, which it isn't. Please think of your basic, human upbringing. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. It's a genetic flaw. PROTECT our young generation from being taught that this is accaptable. Vote "YES" on Question #1.

For our future! This would be disastrous for morality! I just can't imagine a four-year old being taught, or even suggested, that it's ok for a man to marry a man, or a woman to marry a woman.......it's just unconscienable to me. Vote "YES" to save Maine and our standards.

The fact they collected signatures so quickly only proves they preyed on the elderly and ignorant. This only provides evidence that many Mainers still have much growing up to do."

You say this and expect us to vote like you, I think not! Words games and it continues until now!!

Vote Yes on 1

HRH419: Except that i cited the sites where i got that info from :) Did i just prove you wrong again? =)

MaineSurvivor2 : They are losing all the basic marriage rights that come with a heterosexual marriage. And homosexuality is not a lifestyle or "choice". Vote NO on 1 to protect equality, end discrimination, and support God's teachings.

MaineSurvivor2: You obviously missed this post :)

Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html

Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html

http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html

http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

And it should also be noted that:

"It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organisations do believe it is impossible to change a person's sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association."

EG - *smile* - Ya - The ole proverbial blood & guts, - everywhere.. ; }

The "NO" vote will make it, the thinkers have already thought it out and will vote for truth, justice and the American way.., the way that includes 'all' people and families as equal.

K.L.

Ahem, speaking of "sexual abuse of a child," what of the FLDS, which has institutionalized child rape as "marriage"? BTW, I don't see the extremist Christian fundamentalist groups denouncing FLDS, instead they scare-quote same sex marriage. Perhaps because same sex relationships stand as compelling testimony against cripplingly rigid and entirely false gender roles. This puts fundamentalist Christian power assumptions in jeopardy. Please note that mainstream news sites have abandoned the scare-quoting practice and now rarely use 'homosexual,' a term increasingly seen as both pejorative and the province of outliers. Conservative Christians, social progress and fairness have left you amongst the likes of the Inquisitors and denouncers of Galileo and Copernicus. Join us in the 21st century rather than breathlessly await the End Times that are not coming in 2012. Cheers.

HRH419: Except that i cited the sites where i got that info from :) Did i just prove you wrong again? =)

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You said that I plagiarized...What? from Where?

You talk about God like that, do you think we are that stupid in Maine?

to protect equality, end discrimination, and support God's teachings.

Vote Yes on 1

HRH419: Ahhhh, trying to change the subject now? I've already proven you wrong, and cited my sources as backup.

MaineSurvivor2, It's all about "tol-er-ance", say it.., "tolerance".., that's what is already taught in schools and will continue to be taught. Tolerance makes the world a better place, a friendlier place, one that is good for everyone to live in..

Oh yes,

And homosexuality is not a lifestyle or "choice

Vote yes on 1

I've not seen your proof that I plagiarized.Lets see it.

Lets see your sources that I plagiarized. I'm not changing

the subject. And you made the accusation. Lets see your

proof that I plagiarized...You have none...nothing...you liar.

Your no better than a snake.

karenlite: Yeah, mainesurvivor is still stuck in the 60's. Children will be endangered if we do not teach them tolerance, love, and respect. OTherwise teaching them hate and bigotry will lead to a hateful society in the future, where nobody regards each other. Now that would be detrimental to society. This is why we need to vote NO on 1.

Pedophelia will become the norm and taught in our schools! Is this what the people of Maine want? NO! This cannot and will not be happening in Maine! Vote "YES" on Question #1!

HRH419: Again you try to change the subject. I've provided my links:

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html

http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php

http://www.gaychristian101.com/

It's ok though. Anti-gay people tend to use lies and try to stray from the main topic at hand, because in the end, they know that there's really nothing wrong with gay marriage. Nice try though.

Oh yes,

The thinkers have already thought it out and will vote for truth, justice and the American way.., the way that includes 'all' people and families as equal.

Right forget the ignorant and use the to do your will!

Vote Yes on 1

MaineSurvivor2: Lol, yes because homosexuality and pedophilia is the same thing! I love proving you wrong :D

Again you try to change the subject. I've provided my links:

Nice isn't when you have all these links to help you think and past on the word, we know your games and it will not work this time! The sleeping giant has just woken up, my God, about time!!!

Vote Yes on 1

YOUR God, Papere. YOUR God.

We don't need your God. Everyone else has their own already.

Straight, Married, Unafraid, and Voting No on 1!

Show me my posts where I plagiarized any of these...Show me proof

that I personally plagiarized in my posts...You can't...because I haven't

Beware the snake and liar that is shadowman

I love proving you wrong :D

Who is proving who wrong, are you all there or it me?

Vote Yes on 1

YOUR God, Papere. YOUR God.

My God , My God, that sound pretty Good , I think I'll sleep pretty good tonight!

Vote yes on 1

Change the subject? You accuse me of plagiarism but can't

produce posts that I have made to support your accusation.

LIAR.

HRN419: This is like the Sarah Palin debate. You keep trying to switch subjects, when i clearly backed myself up:

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html

http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php

http://www.gaychristian101.com/

This is why nobody takes you seriously.

Repost:

Violence against a minority group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people

Gays are being beaten, shot at, sent to the hospital, killed. In the Middle East, they are killing gays among other groups out of hatred. Is this what we want America to become? Do we want America to revert back to the 1960's when groups were killed and segregated against for simply no good reason? Do we want to follow the ways of the Middle East and Al Queda? Let's push forward, it's time to end bigotry, discrimination, hate, and ignorance. This is modern America, not the Dark Ages.

I'm sure it does. :-) Say a prayer for me, Papere. I'll cross my fingers for you. We'll both be equally successful. :-)

Straight, Married, Unafraid, and Voting No on 1!

Here is why the slippery slope argument fails.

Let us take the 4 common arguments: beastiality, pedophilia, incest, and polygamy. First off, all 4 of these are fetishes, and irrelevant to homosexuality, which is a sexual orientation. Let me distinguish this for you using incest as an example. If a guy into incest is straight, he'll choose his sister, and if he's gay, he'll choose his brother. See the distinguishment? Now pedophilia and beastiality will never be legal, because both are non-consenting and harmful, whereas homosexuality is 2 loving consenting adults that is not wrong or harmful. Incest, also has been shown to lead to genetic defects, so that is also out of the question. Incest also is a fetish, not a sexual orientation. I have never seen a person exclusively attracted to their brothers/sisters etc. Which leaves polygamy. Now i'll prove why homosexuality also won't lead to polygamy.

Who the two people getting married are, is a completely different question in law than how many people can marry. The states have all agreed to prohibit polygamous marriage. They have given numerous public policy reasons and the prohibition stands.

Equal protect applies so long as a rational public policy reason exists to prohibit certain marriages.What is the rational public policy reason for prohibiting a gay couple from marrying? Six states and seven jurisdictions have said there isn't one.

No court or legislature has made a finding that letting two people of the same-sex marry will somehow permit more than two people of any gender to marry. Allowing prisoners to marry and allowing inter-racial couples to marry didn't make polygamy acceptable and it didn't make all married couples criminals or bi-racial. You have no point, you are relying on assumptions and "what ifs" that have been proven to be myths and false. There is no evidence showing gay marriage having a higher chance of leading to polygamy than heterosexual marriage.

All 50 states and the federal government have said there is a public policy reason to prohibit polygamous marriages. With 5 years of gay marriage in Massachusetts, no one has asked to marry more than one other person in Massachusetts, let alone say the 14th amendment of the US Constitution gives them that right.

The slippery slope is a myth meant as a scare tactic that's quickly becoming obsolete.

hey419 7:11.>>>>"If your going to accuse me of plagiarism, you'd better have proof."

whats better mean up there not very polite u know or don`t u

when u are on the losing side don`t u know that no one better answer anything.

now talk nice or no one except the readers are going to see u better side

get a clue

do u think u can recover from the slaughter the no`s put on u today

what r u trying to do

here is a message from our boys

here is big fat NUT for u

now go nicely and lick u pot bellied bosses boots

brokeback mountain was a wonderful about love and the strains of their relationship, both trying to hide their true feelings for one another, when one went and found the others shirt was heart wrenching.

Your a liar and a fraud shadowman. Just what I thought...

NO PROOF from you showing "my" posts in which you say

I plagiarized. It's because they don't exist you liar...Your

real credible. I hope all here see you for the snake you are.

Don't show me your sites shadowman...Show me

proof that "I" posted something that was plagiarism.

HRH419: Thats why you can't admit to the fact that you're the same person as forhim :) like we're dumb or something.

You said i plagarized. I proved that i didn't. You couldn't accept that fact and try to change the subject to something totally irrelevant. Who was making things up again?

HRH419: Here, i'll even include the link for you :)

"ennings Articles List - 53 Republicans Call for Kevin Jennings to Be Removed as ‘Safe School’ Chief at Dep’t of Education

The following letter signed by by 53 Republican Congressmen was sent last week to President Obama. The Hill newspaper reports that “the letter primarily assembled by Rep. Steve King (R-IA).” We applaud the congressmen for mentioning the primary reason that Kevin Jennings should be removed as America’s “Safe Schools” chief: the organization he founded (GLSEN) has recklessly promoted homosexuality — an immoral and unhealthy lifestyle — to impressionable children (even kindergartners). That may be a cherished goal of social leftists in this country, but the vast majority of Americans, we are con"

from the site:

http://americansfortruth.com/

Lie more please :)

Just let me say this. Go and park in front of an elementary school tomorrow and look at the children entering. The "NO" voters are trying to program these young people to believe that homosexual marriage is ok! Put a face on this vote! Don't allow this to happen to the next generation!

The "NO" voters have already destoyed the values of two generations! It MUST stop here! The "NO" voters are losing NOTHING when they lose! Dear God, don't allow this immorality to destroy Maine family values! God (Mainers) save the children!

ShadowMan: How did you get so smart??

Voted NO on 1.

On 10/28/09 at 6:52 PM, ShadowMan wrote:

HRH419: Lol, you and your buddy forhim try to plagarize sites which i constantly disprove wrong, and you didn't like it. The truth hurts doesn't it :)

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I have never plagiarized sites, nor have i ever accused you of doing so.

You can show me proof of that also. It doesn't exist either snakeman.

You're not making things up. You're lying.

Ya know what Patton told his men when they saw the satan naxi monster.

shot em the head and keep on going

he didn` say stop and question them

just shot them or go around them

the people that are really are interested in reading good positive on both sides will just see who is evil and will also just go around them

it doesn`t really matter if these evil types are asking a good ? or not.

if they are saying they are voting Yes, then have fun and take no prisoners

Gen Patton moved to fast to deal with a few stupid nazi troops

on his way to Berlin, don`t cha just know that

just send to the back of the line where we will take better care of our POW`s then they ever did

but POW are not allowed the respect to have there ? answered

unless they need to ask can I go to the out house before

I sh-- myself

If they ain`t nice in asking let them sh-- themself

everyone will see that what goes in there mouth comes out the other end

evil in evil out

ok Gen Patton

ya trooper if that don`t work just give a big fat NUT from us.

this is freakin fun packing up ;the trash that do not matter and going to the dump with them

boy they get irratated when u ignore there neg behavior

just like kids u know

MaineSurvivor2:

Why voting NO on 1 doesn't affect children.

http://www.mpbn.net/News/MaineNews/tabid/181/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3475/ItemId/9391/Default.aspx

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/125324.html

It's already been proven that nothing will be taught. Also, homosexuals have existed for more than 2 generations. They have existed since the beginning of time. God created them, God loves them. To vote otherwise goes against the teachings of Christ.

ElectraGlide, you drink too much, can't spell, and I'm sure your breath stinks. As I said last night, put away the Crown Royal and go to bed. You've had too much to make comments. The "NO" side thanks you.

chersully2000: =P

HRH419 wrote: "I don't quote scripture or anyone's personal work ever... "

Who was lying again? When i quote scripture, i provided the links, i didn't plagarize them.

^^

Say a prayer for me, Papere. I'll cross my fingers for you. We'll both be equally successful. :-)

Okay I need all the help I can get, prayers is good in fact very good, I say one for you also, God bless you my friend, God love everybody no exceptions!

MaineSurvivor2: Spewing out insults already shows you've lost the argument. You are delaying the inevitable. Gay marriage will become legalized in time, not only in the U.S., but around the world.

Oh I forgot , Vote Yes On 1

Sorry ShadowMan. You're either a liar or sadly misinformed. Nice try, though. I'll forget about you after November 3rd. :-) Vote "YES" on Question #1.

No Maine2 ~~~ how dare u generalize like that

u need to go pray to god that is fine

we don`t have to believe in your god

your acting like an out of control kid that needs to be restrained until you can act nicely to your peers

now do u really want to know who your peers are

are u just crazy

u do know the song don`t cha God is Great Beer is Good and People are Crazy

I know u are not God, don`t think u are beer (maybe had to many thou) and u could possibly crazy

1 2 3 now could u please go look in the mirrow and answer to everyone

1 2 or 3 we are asking every so nicely don`t cha know that

everyone reading this post tonight is

Gay marriage will become legalized in time, not only in the U.S., but around the world.

Man would that be interesting love to see that!!

Vote Yes on 1

Again, snakeman, show me where " I " have ever quoted scripture?

Or quoted anything for that matter? I never have and never will...

Here's another chance liar...I wasn't the one who accused YOU of plagiarism.

maine2 here is your NUT

MaineSurvivor2: Notice how you can't disprove anything i say :) That's why you are on the losing side in the end. When the bus passes you by, will you hop aboard, or die out with all the other racists? =)

HRH419: I've already showed you in the above post. Keep trolling though, troll busting you is very fun :D

how to give them the NUT ShadowMan (:~)

we will probably have to open it from them or should we just

drive it the a--

ElectraGlide: lol

Just as I said before...No proof...because it doesn't exist.

Your not man enough to take care of a woman and not

man enough to admit that you're a liar. Good riddance

a day of judgement IS coming which will show who was right and who was wrong. GOD WILL have the last word!

I agree with that person wholeheartedly, I like the way you think, make think that there is some people out there who are smart and know what is coming, very soon!

Oh Yes Vote YES on 1

You're in great company cher, you deserve them.

racists?

Is that nice, any more of those nice names!

Vote yes on 1

MaineSurvivor2, Enough already with your fear of gay rights.. There's NO immorality here! NO fear that families will disintegrate.. It's going to be ok, really..

HRH, I'm begging you, please don't mention 'plagiarism' again or we're all going to explode! You're good, we'll believe anything you say, just stop with it.. Thank you in advance..

*ShadowMan*, You're correct on all counts, because;

(1) You write well thought out posts

(2) You're correct, precise, loving, caring, and

(3) You got it exactly right in your 7:44pm post!..

ya know what the cowboy on his steel pony does when a wild dog comes out in the road

we just kick em the head

no sympathy, shouldn`t been chasing the steel pony

and the Law will look at the dead dog and just shake his head

and just say at least he didn`t flop around much

now can u help me throw the dog in the ditch

yes sir no prob

Gays are being beaten, shot at, sent to the hospital, killed. In the Middle East, they are killing gays among other groups out of hatred

Are you living on Mars, Do you think we are stupid, come on big giant tell him!

Vote yes on 1

Karen, I'm only standing up for what's right...like it or not.

You'd do the same.

throw the dog in the ditch

That is hitting below the belt, but a good joke, ha,ha

Vote Yes on 1

HRH419: Lmao, i've provided all the links, your only "proof" is yelling out "liar" Who are people going to believe, someone who actually backs themselves up, or someone who screams liar all day? =)

ElectraGlide: Hehehe, i love your posts.

HRH419: IF you're standing up for what is right, then you'd vote NO on 1. There is no need for discrimination.

OMG if u care about having any yes votes left

You should think about yourself

for u are the poster child for the no side

we are just trying to be polite

where else do u get the nuts

Beware of false moralists, which post here in self-righteous clothing, but inwardly they are ravening bigots. Ye shall know them by their CAPS LOCK."

From an earlier post, you see what I mean with those people they are mad and don't think right!!

Vote Yes On One

Stilll no proof. I hope people see you for what you are.

VOTE YES ON ONE

And I don't have to scream liar, you've done

that youself.

ShadowMan, you have a very tiny mind. I feel sorry for you. But sorrow will fill your pathetic soul on November 3rd. Repent, or you will live forever in the bowels of hell. I do not feel one ounce of sorrow for your pathetic soul. Good bye to you and anyone that thinks like you. You have serious issues if you think for one minute that normal people will allow you to overtake our young and encourage them that homosexual behavior is acceptable. It's just not going to happen in your lifetime......or mine. This dimented behavior cannot be voted on favoribly by clear thinking Mainers. It's simply incomprehensible that this pedophilia could become law! And that's exactly what it is!!!!!!.......legal pedophelia!! Sick!!!

we are just trying to be polite

It is going to get worst, The sleeping Giant will sleep no more, sorry about that, that is the way the game is played!

Vote Yes ON ONE

legal pedophelia!! Sick!!!

I agree , you can get mad all you want, it will not work this time, the sleeping giant is not sleeping anymore!

Oh Yes , Vote yes on 1

HRH419, I wasn't disputing you. Please see the truth in voting NO on 1, it's for understanding, the coming together of humanity, and in the best way of all; It will build a bridge of love.

HRH419 : Too bad you can't provide valid links to cover up your bigotry. Lol, why state vote yes on one? This is an old news article, and i posted my stuff so everyone could see the truth when it was still alive and fresh. I did what i wanted to do :) So why am i still here? Troll busting trolls like yourself is very entertaining :D

MaineSurvivor2: More name-calling! Lol, for some, there is no such thing as heaven and hell. And for those that are Christians, many believe that homosexuality is not a sin, which i proved in these links:

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html

http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php

http://www.gaychristian101.com/

Oh and the normal people argument! I guess you think blacks in America, left-handed people, people who wear eyeglasses, all shouldn't be able to marry right?

Most of our young needs to be taught tolerance and respect. Homosexuality is a normal part of human society, and not telling them homosexuals exist is trying to hide facts. You might as well tell them the world is still flat then. I've already proven that homosexual sex will not be taught in schools. But what needs to be taught is tolerance and respect. It looks like it's going well already, because majority of the younger generation 18-30 support gay marriage, and among teenagers, that support is even higher.

Lol, and the fact that you compared pedophilia to homosexuality shows what type of person you are, and what type of people some of the people on your side are.

Thanks karen, have a good evening.

You've shown your true colors snakeman.

You're a liar. good riddance

HRH419: More name - caling! That's what happens when u lose an argument. Too bad nobody will read these comments anymore since this news article is pretty old now, they can see you for what you really are :)

On 10/28/09 at 5:46 PM, celticsrule wrote: "To Haakon: Ok prove to me that people are born gay, even science shows that something drastic has happened in a persons life to attract them to the same sex."

Um... you made the assertion that no one is born gay. Prove it. Throwing the question back at me isn't proving anything. You made a statement, and rather a strong one. Now back it up.

haakon: Celticsrule obviously hasn't read these links:

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html

Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html

http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html

http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

And it should also be noted that:

"It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organisations do believe it is impossible to change a person's sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association."

MaineSurvivor2, You're just making yourself sick (re; 9:01pm), You need to think about what you're saying - that pedophilia is the same as gay.. You must certainly realize that 'some' heteros and gays alike may be that way..

Try to be sensible and kind. Thank you.

K.L.

I, a man, am going to bed for the night with my wife of 27 years, a woman. The way it should be. Vote "YES" on Question #1. Good night.

You can't turn this one around snakenan.

It's all there for people to draw their own

conclusion. You made false accusations

and were unable to prove your foolishness.

False...just like you..fake.

It's the heart that loves not the sex of a person, my friend MS2..

Have a good night..

because majority of the younger generation 18-30 support gay marriage, and among teenagers, that support is even higher.

Where do you get your info, don't fool yourself my man and others, do your homework before you write it down. Playing minds games with not work anymore. You links are all foolishness and I could show you thousands that would be in my favor. Just quit while you lose ground some more

Vote Yes on 1

MaineSurvivor2: Lol, after seeing your arguments, you'd convince people to actually vote no on 1, because most of your arguments are simply laughable. Too bad nobody is reading this thread anymore though :)

HRH419: What's there to turn around. I already proven my accusations true above ^^ And you're name-calling destroys your credibility even further :D Not that it matters, since this news article is virtually dead already.

902 Papere~~~~"It is going to get worst, The sleeping Giant will sleep no more, sorry about that, that is the way the game is played!"

Again, do u think we care what u think with your stupid comments that don`t deal with anything but cut and paste

the giant u are talking about has been talking from the heart most of the day

that would be the true gaint, the giant of good vs evil

well good in Maine is the giant, in the ole USA good is the giant.

good is the giant that is behind the Gay Issue

evil is u and we all know u are just like the Taliban

do u think u are playing with a people that like to lose

rather u agree w/Obama or not the people that put him in office and we don`t want your kind of help

using bigotry like in the past is ole school and this is not ole shool

this is new school and are u ever going to get schooled

Just keep it up and the ole USA good againts evil while takin care of America is going to take care of your kind once and for all

Yes America has Woke the freakin Up and the Wake Up call is coming after u. Now and forever long it takes to get u and your kind out of our faces and our neighbors face. Our towns and cities face.

Keep it up on here for again it helps us idendify your face

Yep America has sure woken up

And Maine is going to be the first in the Nation to Demonstrate It

Right in your FACE here is your Nut you Nut case.

That how the game is played in Maine for this is not California now is IT.

all u have done is cut and past and threaten who

sounds like another threat

It's the heart that loves not the sex of a person, my friend MS2.

Why all the name calling and everything else to insult people, that is love are you kidding, sex has always been a big issue and that is what gets us in trouble all the time! Love means sacrifice and selflessness and caring and helping and be there when people need you, you get the drift!!

Vote Yes on 1

It matters that you are a liar. That, you have

proven beautifully And these posts can be

accessed for a long time to come. So don't

be surprised if it comes back to bite you snakeman

I'll HAVE proof, where you have NONE

HRH419: ""I don't quote scripture or anyone's personal work ever... " - responding sarcastically to my religious post

shadowman wrote: "http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm"

Let's take a look at your "evidence"

"You can't turn this one around snakenan."

"Your a liar snakeman"

You still expect me to take you seriously :)

Papere, Are you telling me that gays aren't capable of love, sacrifice, selflessness, caring, helping and being there when people need them? We share the same humanity, feel the same feelings and we love...

GOT IT ?!

I know I am a Mainer too and always lived here and to think that other people around the country to try to come in and make trouble make all of us in Maine feeling very funny inside, we are not in California and those people should let us be and let us make our own decisions, without their influence. Sorry my man you are not there yet and I wish you well, God loves everybody no exceptions!

Vote Yes on 1

I expect you to lie. your great at that.

Papere, Are you telling me that gays aren't capable

No the other person who wrote the post suggested just that, made to realize that everyone is equal and able to love but what kind of love, who you know!

You'll only 'be there' when you learn to love and accept others, Pp..

Night all ~