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Same-sex couples

Your God has no authority over me when it comes to the issue of same-sex marriage.

Our chosen representatives weighed the issues and made an intelligent, informed decision. Those who disagree with it hope to change my mind with ads and signs.

Homosexuals are not a freak of nature. Every species of mammal practices homosexual behavior. I don’t like the idea of homosexual behavior but it is what it is.

Maine has around 4,500 same-sex households. My spouse and I were given rights over 30 years ago. You want to deny those same rights to gays and lesbians.

There is an estimated two million straight spouses with a traditional marriage involving a gay or a lesbian partner in the United States. The traditional marriage is “one man and one woman” with lovers, mistresses, prostitutes and divorces on the side. Yet opponents of same-sex marriage aren’t saying “one man and one woman only once.”

One cannot be taught to be gay.

The way I will vote on this referendum is based on empathy. All they want is the same rights you have.

The self-righteous people who oppose the law will deny their relatives, coworkers and neighbors those rights. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Denis Santerre

Eddington

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Love the sinner

So many people opposing Question 1 quote from the Bible: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” I would like them all to know, as a Christian, that I love them but hate the sin they live in.

The lifestyle they have chosen is a choice and one that is against what God has intended for all of us. He made us male and female to complete each other and the institution of marriage is there to support this.

Loving another person is wanting that person to understand right from wrong, and not let them do whatever they want. If you let a child have his or her way every time, then they do not learn respect for others or right from wrong. They learn, “I am always right and I can do whatever I want.”

Loving you means wanting you to be in God’s kingdom when this world passes away. God loves you and so do I. It is the sin that is hated.

Autumn Schmeling

Brewer

Let’s try TABOR

I’m grateful the BDN printed the OpEd by Bill Owens, the former governor and state treasurer of Colorado, who suggests that Mainers vote for TABOR II.

We have been bombarded with ads all telling us how TABOR is a bad thing for our communities, our schools and our state.

We’re told that school teachers, firefighters and law enforcement staff will be cut and we may have to wait for 911 responses in emergencies.

Many of these ads suggest that when Colorado voted this plan into affect in 1992, taxpayers quickly realized they did the wrong thing and that TABOR was then taken off the table and no longer in use.

Mr. Owens writes that “TABOR was enacted in 1992 and its effect was almost instantaneous. Tax burdens and government spending growth leveled off and Colorado’s private sector began to grow. With that job growth came income growth.”

Let’s not believe the scare commercials. Let’s vote in TABOR and at least try something constructive to get this out of control spending back to working within a budget, just like each and every family here in Maine does every day.

Ben Brown

Dixmont

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Anderson for council

Early in the campaign season I suggested that competition for city council has allowed voters a clear choice based on style of leadership.

What I bring to the council is the style of leadership that listens more than speaks, looks deeply at cause and effect relationships, looks for common ground on issues, and seeks compromise when possible.

I take time to think about issues and to ask for input from the public and city employees. I believe hasty, impulsive decisions can lead to disastrous unintended consequences.

Nevertheless, there is a time for action.

This past winter when the economy was collapsing and downtown business owners were worried about having the capital to remain in business until the season started, I initiated a revolving loan fund for small businesses. To hasten this process, the council voted to join the Knox County loan pool.

Funds are now available for small business owners.

Over the past 35 years I have been blessed with the gift of many valued relationships. Now I’d like to thank my friends and acquaintances who trust me with the decisions that guide the city.

Trust is a most important quality, not lightly given or accepted, and I am grateful for your faith in me.

Jan Anderson

Belfast

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Case for TABOR

Last year, the people vetoed a tax package that included a 1 percent tax on health insurance.

So this year, despite the people’s veto we get a 2.24 percent tax on health insurance. Inflation is so low that Social Security recipients get no cost of living increase but property taxes in Glenburn went up 10 percent. In Etna they went up 40 percent. Similar tax increases are happening all over the state.

Tax increases of 10 to 40 times inflation are not reasonable or justifiable.

Politicians can be trusted to do three things: spend more money, raise taxes and vigorously oppose anything that keeps them from doing either of the above.

The mere fact that the politicians and special interest groups that benefit from government spending are so against TABOR is in itself a strong endorsement for TABOR. They are scared to death that those of us who pay the bills might have a say in how the money is raised and spent.

TABOR may not be the perfect solution but it is a far better alternative to the tax, spend and tax some more policies that we now have and I will vote for it. It is long past time for the people to have a say.

Timothy Grant

Glenburn

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316 comments on this item

Autumn - Well said. Stand firm for Christ, for what's right, for decency and morals. And pray for the lost that they will see the Light and turn away from their sinful lifestyles.

Why is it that state and local government employees (includding teachers) are the only ones screeching that the sky will fall if TABOR passes?

"To love and be loved is the greatest gift of all"

Love and loving is not just for heterosexuals, you can count in gays, lesbians, bi sexuals and transgenders and everyone else. The one thing we all have in common is that we need love.. Legal consenting adults who wish to be legally and equally married should be able to do so and have all the same rights and privileges.

Please vote for them to have that right in marriage.

Vote NO on question 1 - for love to prevail and families to flourish.

K and G - hetero married couple(36 y.) for marriage equality. Thank You!

I am voting yes on one. If gays and lesbians want what they consider to be the same rights as a married man and women let them work on changing the laws that they think are denying them those rights. There is absolutely no reason to change the institute of marriage as its always been for thousands of years. As a Christian I am against homosexual marriage for obvious reasons, my God is against it. I firmly believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ and that He is the only way. That being said, I also believe in the freedom to chose ones faith and would defend that right for everyone. This law goes way beyond people marrying outside their faith, this is a complete redefinition of marriage to appease a small minority that are indulging in a immoral lifestyle. This has gotten completely out of hand. People are being called bigoted, hateful, narrow minded, threatened with losing their jobs, books being banned, pastors being arrested, businesses being sued, all because some dare to speak out against this immorality. Its time for us to make a stand next week and send a clear message that Maine along with the 30 other states that have been fortunate enough to be able to vote on this to say YES, we want marriage to be one man and one women only. You can work on changing the laws, but leave marriage alone. I for one will not be intimidated.

PROUDLY VOTING YES ON ONE

To stand behind the bible and Jesus to preach negativity against gays and others is wrong and unloving.

Already voted NO on 1 and encouraging others to do so.

Thank you for making a difference in a historic vote!

K.L.

This is NOT a rights issue. It's a moral issue, plain and simple. This is why this law will be overturned by the sensible people of the State of Maine. Good morals protect Maine families.....and that's what it's all about. Everyone has the same rights, but not the same morals. Those with limited morals claim they want additional "rights". Poor morals do NOT equal rights. Next Tuesday the gays are going to have to handle defeat, as they should. Morality is simply NOT going to take a hit just because a few thousand people want to change thousands of years of morality.

Vote "YES" on Question 1. Protect family values and our children.

The hate is there in the Yes on 1 voters and it's 100% religious. It looks to me that religion is all about hate.

I'm not sure what kind of bible you read, but mine is abundantly clear.

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB) - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."

MaineSurvivor2 wrote: "This is NOT a rights issue. It's a moral issue, plain and simple. "

Wrong. Only religion would declare homosexuality immoral. There is no rational reason to regard homosexuality to be immoral. Only religion would teach it to be so for zero rational reason.

A yes vote is all about imposing an irrational religious morality onto civil law for religious reasons.

Vote NO on 1 and don't impose religion onto civil law.

There goes forSHAME and his 100% religious argument for harming others because of his religious beliefs.

Don;t be like forSHAME. Vote NO on 1.

Ask gay folks if it's a moral issue, I'll tell you it is not and I'm sure they will too.. It's a constitutional right and the moral part is up to the personal judgment of others. The gay families that I've seen are fantastically wonderful and caring. I would hope for all families to live up to their ideals..

Wow. Some really strange thinking you have there crazyfingers. Goodbye on Tuesday.

Extending equality to a minority has never been a bad idea in our nation's history.

What the Maine legislature determined is that the existing statues on marriage denied legal benefits and protections to gay and lesbian couples for no demonstrably legitimate reason. So they changed the law to be more inclusive and allow these loving, committed families into this great tradition for family building.

It is absolutely an attempt to rectify a situation that is unconstitutional by our US Constitution's 14th amendment. The civil rights movement of the 20th century also had to point out the systemic unfairness of Jim Crow laws that violated the constitution. Laws such as "everyone can vote, but you have to pass a literacy test" were every bit as unfair to the sharecropper blacks then as "everyone can marry, but you have to pick someone of the opposite sex" is to homosexual couples today.

I'm seeking equal treatment under the law because I'm every bit a citizen of this state as you are, and I show every bit of commitment to my soul mate as you might yours.

You are free to define marriage however you want. Your church is free to define marriage however it wants. But our shared government, under our shared Constitution, has a responsibility to ensure all people have equal opportunity to the pursuit of happiness.

Maine families of all kinds are part of our communities, and for decades there have been same-sex couples living amongst us showing every bit of commitment to their communities and families.

It's wrong to make these families go through the enormous expense and endeavor to receive only a subset of the rights and responsibilities available to others with a $30 marriage certificate. And besides, there are benefits to civil marriage which cannot be replicated through other means at all currently.

The people who are leading this opposition also have opposed our attempts to get civil unions equal to marriage, too. Besides, there is no need to create a totally separate, parallel set of rights and responsibilities for a small minority— extending equality has always been the best way.

Please, vote NO on 1, and don't vote away the rights of Maine families and their children. Live and let live.

Let’s keep it real people.

Our families deserve to grow in a society based on high moral standards.

Let’s not allow a certain few infringe upon our rights to raise healthy and wholesome, loving families.

Gay marriage is not the answer.

VOTE YES ON 1!!!

Please consider voting YES on question 1.

The laws of nature only permit for a man and a woman to marry and produce offspring.

Let’s not change the definition of an institution that has been around for thousands of years.

Let’s stop this nonsense right now by voting yes on 1.

Help our Maine families maintain a higher moral standard.

GOD WILL FORGIVE YOUR SINS BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO QUIT THE SIN YOU WERE DOING , AFTER YOUR CONFESSION.

VOTE YES to stop immorality from defining us as a nation. Change the laws, you have hollywood, the media, oprah and obama on your side. Should be easy enough to accomplish. Leave marriage alone.

VOTE YES

YES_ON_1 wrote: " Let’s keep it real people.

Our families deserve to grow in a society based on high moral standards."

Show that gay marriage is immoral. Be sure you avoid quoting the bible because all does is show some parts of the bible. It doesn't show that gay marriage is immoral. Here's aclue. YOU CAN"T because it isn't.

"Let’s not allow a certain few infringe upon our rights to raise healthy and wholesome, loving families."

Show that gay marriage in any way impacts healthy, wholesome and loving families. YOU CAN'T.

"Gay marriage is not the answer."

Gay marriage is important to gays and it harms no one.

Note NO on 1

forHIMtoday wrote: " to stop immorality from defining us as a nation. "

You have no evidence and have no argument to show that gay marriage would be immoral. All you do is quote a claim that it is.

Vote No on 1 to help some families and harm no family.

joesalters wrote: "GOD WILL FORGIVE YOUR SINS BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO QUIT THE SIN YOU WERE DOING , AFTER YOUR CONFESSION."

Here we go again. More imposing religion onto others.

MaineSurvivor2 wrote: "Wow. Some really strange thinking you have there crazyfingers."

There is nothing strange about recognizing the fact that they only argument the Yes people have is religion and sometimes their own yuck factor.

There is NO rational argument to suggest that gay marriage is immoral. If you think that there is one then make your case. However I've been arguing this issue for a good 8 years have have yet to see any argument that gay marriage would be immoral that was not shown to be nonsense.

crazyfingers - your type have no morals - anything goes - perversion is called diversity!

If this whole campaign accomplishes nothing else for me, it has greatly reaffirmed my atheism. Thank you "yes" people for the solid reminder of why I believe as I do.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

On 10/30/09 at 8:17 PM, forHIMtoday wrote:

"That being said, I also believe in the freedom to chose ones faith and would defend that right for everyone."

Unless they belong to a UCC or UUA or any church which would marry a same sex coupe. Then you are against them just like you are same sex marriage.

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"This has gotten completely out of hand. People are being called bigoted, hateful, narrow minded,"

Yes and just as your have called people perverted, immoral, etc...

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"threatened with losing their jobs,"

Where pray tell?

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"books being banned,"

But banning books which you do not approve of is OK.

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"pastors being arrested,"

Not in this country and those which you have posted about have been found innoncent of hate speech.

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"businesses being sued,"

Discrimination is currently illegal in Maine and elsewhere. The repeal of this law does not change that. If you discriminate against a protected class you will get sued. But this law does extend protection to churches and affiliated religious groups if they decided they do not wish to perform a same sex marriage or rent the churches social hall for a reception. But don't mention that little piece of info right?

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"Its time for us to make a stand next week and send a clear message that Maine along with the 30 other states that have been fortunate enough to be able to vote on this to say YES, we want marriage to be one man and one women only."

Well at least your halfway telling the truth on this one, unlike others. Some 30 states have passed laws and/or Constitutional Amendments that define marriage as one man and one woman. But 30 states have not rejected a law similar to Maine's. Interestingly enough, Texas's law is now being challanged as being unconstitutional. I believe a judge (not sure if it is a federal or state judge) has made an initial ruling anyway.

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"You can work on changing the laws, but leave marriage alone."

Some how, I do not believe you would sit idly by if a law was passed for Civil Unions. Wish I knew your stance on that matter, but you have repeatedly refused to answer that question when I and many others have asked it.

Already voted No on 1

Glad I already voted No on 1 to extend protections and rights to other couples and their children here in Maine.

Seacoast

If this whole campaign accomplishes nothing else for me, it has greatly reaffirmed my religious beliefs.

Thank you "no" people for the solid reminder of why I believe as I do.

Please vote YES on 1!

hummm.....every species of mammals practices homosexual behavior....like maybe one or two in how many? Seems to me the humanoid kind are practicing homosexual behavior alot more than in the animal kingdom. I 've heard of a couple penquins. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of penquins. I've heard of a bull moose jump a car...think it was a mini-van. Does that count?

"On 10/30/09 at 9:59 PM, YES_ON_1 wrote: Thank you "no" people for the solid reminder of why I believe as I do."

Just curious...how did we accomplish that?

Please vote "NO" on 1.

JD2008...have you been reading the paper, one who made a yes ad has had a formal complaint filed by another social worker to have his license revoked for speaking his piece...NOT in the school that he works at like the other teacher, or have the blessing of the school superintenent and principal to make a no on one ad at Nokomis.....what is going on here? where is the outrage at the administrators of RSU 19 in Newport for allowing the school to be used as a political ad backdrop?

neocon wrote: "crazyfingers - your type have no morals - anything goes - perversion is called diversity!"

What a FOOL you are! YOU have no FREAKING IDEA about me!

I am a male and I have been with my female wife for 19 years. 5 years ago we adopted 3 siblings out of state foster care. They are now age 6, 7 and 9 and they have emotional problems because before they came to us they lived separately with 5 different families. We have devoted everything to giving our kids a stable and loving home.

YOU learn something about me before you tell ME that I have no FREAKING MORALs, you SLIME.

seacoast

You believe that the perversion of gay marriage is good and moral.

You believe that we should not teach our children right from wrong.

You believe that homosexuals are not committing a sin when they act on their sexual urges.

You believe that good things will come from the passage of this bill.

I don't.

Nothing could ever justify that type of thinking for me.

It's not even rational as far as I'm concerned.

Crazyfingers

I don't think who you are married to and how many kids you have dictates what kind of morals you maintain.

Your posts here would seem to point to the fact that you have a completely watered down set of morals you live by.

That's what I gather from your posts anyway.

I don't think neocon is too far off base, you do consider perversion to be "diversity" as do the rest of the gay marriage supporters.

YES_ON_1 wrote: "

I don't think neocon is too far off base, you do consider perversion to be "diversity" as do the rest of the gay marriage supporters."

YOU people who call it a perversion can't come up with ONE rational argument against it.Being agaist gay marriate is all about religion or bigotry. I have no respect, zero respect, for your desire to harm others just because they want to be with the same sex relationship. It's idiocy to oppose civil marriage over that. It's hateful and it's bigoted!

crazyfingers: re 10:22 PM Good for you for speaking back to that poster and putting him in his place. The presumptiousness of some who think they know how other posters live their lives and make assumptions about them is disgusting and out of line. And good for you and your wife for what you have done for your children. I admire people like you, not someone like the poster who directed those remarks at you.

Glad I voted NO on 1.

It appears that there is no lie too vile that the anti gay marriage folks won't stoop to in an attempt to force their will upon all Mainers. Case in point:

The Maine Family Policy council is now saying that gays are coming to kill you in your sleep:

"The enemy comes in and becomes "one of us" unless we are discerning. For example, the Homosexual activists have been very clever in appearing as normal families while hiding the diabolical acts they engage in on a regular basis. They have infiltrated some churches becoming leaders and even clergy. God calls it an abomination and so should we. The message was told ten times over "they are coming to kill you while you sleep, when you least expect it." "

http://mainefamilypolicycouncil.com/artman/publish/Pastor_s_Update_24/Overcoming_Opposition_-_Part_2.shtml

Stop the insanity. Say no to the lies. Please vote No on One.

crazyfingers

one rational reason is that it degrades the standing of traditional families.

another, is that it is a sin to carry out homosexual acts.

if I am a bigot for wanting to teach my children that homosexual acts are a sin than so be it.

if I am a bigot for wanting to uphold the high honor of traditional marriage than so be it.

your argument falls short always, because you have an inherently flawed set of moral values, it is not difficult to make a mockery of your stance.

it's quite easy as a matter of fact.

The good Lord above will not consider me a bigot I am sure of that.

However he will not take mercy on the souls of those who are corrupting the children of the world.

You and yours should pay heed. The road to hell is paved with opportunity, and acceptance of gay marriage is a big one at that.

Still voting yes on one...

YES ON 1 GO GATORS.

haakon: Re 10:48 PM Oh my gosh....that is deplorable....absolutely deplorable. They must be desperate to stoop to that.

So glad I voted NO on 1.

"Every species of mammals practices homosexual behavior" Not. In fact, those that study animals have to look really close to find anything that remotely resembles homosexual behavior, and 99% of what they find is debunked through common logic. The other 1% is twisted illogically in order to support the gay animal argument. Regardless, humans have thought processes and the ability to decide right and wrong, unlike animals, so why would anyone want to justify thier lifestyle choices by using animals?

joesalters - Yes, Go Gators! I'll be at the Gators/Vanderbilt game next week.

EJparsons

Animals are not gay.

Given the choice, an orangutan will fire at whatever is in front of him, be it male or female.

For the homosexuals to hang their hats on the sexual tendencies of non human animals is deplorable.

I would be as far away from that comparison as possible if I were them.

I urge you all to vote YES on 1!

For our families, we don't want to be compared to animals who have no souls or consciences.

"On 10/30/09 at 10:31 PM, YES_ON_1 wrote: seacoast You believe that the perversion of gay marriage is good and moral. You believe that we should not teach our children right from wrong. You believe that homosexuals are not committing a sin when they act on their sexual urges. You believe that good things will come from the passage of this bill. I don't. Nothing could ever justify that type of thinking for me. It's not even rational as far as I'm concerned. "

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My atheism was reaffirmed because of all the negative and mean-spirited comments I saw coming from the "yes" side...indeed, from the whole referendum itself being back by church money.

I have always to tried to respect people with religious beliefs...many are close friends, in fact. The topic of religion doesn't get brought up out of respect for each other. But these religious friends know I'm gay and support equality for me and my kind right up to and including marriage.

I can't fathom the lack of understanding that the "vote yes" side demonstrates. At times, it seems more like political validation than core beliefs, what with the lies and fear mongering your side puts out. The pejorative use of the word "perversion" in your reply for instance.

I'm not saying that to be mean. Believe me, if you had good arguments that gay marriage would introduce some social disaster, I'd re-think my vote.

But you don't. You create vast scenarios from isolated occurrences. You say things that are outright lies, such as choosing to be gay. When we tell you in every way possible that we didn't choose our sexual orientation, it falls on deaf ears.

Gay people...not bisexuals, but GAY people have no choice when it comes to selecting a partner. Very simply...and you need to follow this...very simply, we aren't attracted to members of the opposite sex. Yet, we seek companionship just like heterosexuals do. Someone to come home to, to love and to be loved by. Not just in the physical sense, but in all the ways that love matters.

You would deny this to us because your interpretation of christianity says so. You're letting other people do your thinking for you. And by that, I mean the people who wrote the bible and those who continue to preach it today.

If you wish to now accuse me of letting the "gay agenda" think for me, you're wrong. I don't follow any agenda. I look at the facts as they are presented from both sides and make up my mind.

Facts, not ancient stories. Not laws written centuries ago. I examine the world in which we live and I do it through the eyes of a gay person.

I want us all to get along. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you and I might have much in common and if we met under different circumstances, we might be pals. Would you still want to deny me marriage equality? Probably.

And that's very unfortunate.

When religious groups try to affect law through prejudice, such as what's happening here, and it will have a negative affect on my life, I get angry. As well I should.

As should anyone who truly cares about other people. As should anyone who takes the time to understand.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

Seacoast

A sin is a sin.

You can't talk it away.

Can you call a spade a spade?

Or will you remain in denial.

My child will never be taught that homosexual lifestyles are proper and moral.

She will be taught just the opposite.

I will tell her the truth about homosexuals. And I will tell her the truth about all the sins of the world.

We differentiate between lies and truths.

You do not, you make up new words and phrases for truths that have been around for centuries.

You cannot spin away history, it is there, and we will respect it's standing.

Vote YES please.

This is the E-Mail that I have sent to ALL my Family and Friends.

We also asked them to follow on the BDN comment section to learn more if they had ? about this or just ask us.

My Wife and I believe in the Spirit of God.

Not sure what Kitty believes in other then her food dish.

Oh, Thats right she said feed me I will believe in what you tell me too do.

e-mail

Well just so ya know, Electra (((male)))) and Wife (((female))) and Maine Coon Cat (((kitty)))

are planning on ((( Voting NO on #1 ))) Why, because we

do not feel that we can wear the Red White and Blue Harley patch,

that says that we are # 1 in the Good ole USA. (not proudly anyway)

(((If we don`t Vote NO on # 1 )))

We are sure we do not want to be (( Bigots ))

It is not an issue for us of (((Religion Rights)))

It is an issue for us of Seperation of ((Church and State ))

It is an issue for us about ((( The Right to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness)))

It is an issue for us of what is ((( Equality for All ))) and what is (( Not ))

And how the (( US Constitution )) fits into (( ALL )) this.

We do not want someone, somewhere, or someday to take our right to (( Ride Free and

Let Live )) !!

Taking our (( Rights away by a minority Church is not Right for us ))

((((((Electral and Wife and Kitty are Proudly Voting NO on # 1)))))) ((( (:~) )))

On 10/30/09 at 11:38 PM, YES_ON_1 wrote: Seacoast A sin is a sin. You can't talk it away. Can you call a spade a spade? Or will you remain in denial. My child will never be taught that homosexual lifestyles are proper and moral. She will be taught just the opposite. I will tell her the truth about homosexuals. And I will tell her the truth about all the sins of the world. We differentiate between lies and truths. You do not, you make up new words and phrases for truths that have been around for centuries. You cannot spin away history, it is there, and we will respect it's standing. Vote YES please.

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Religion does not necessarily equal truth and yet you insist on presenting it as fact. It's simply something you've been taught as truth without any way of verifying it. There's zero evidence of a god...just stuff around us, including us, the origin of which we don't really know.

And that's fine with me. I don't need to latch onto ancient ideas to get me through the day. Not knowing the past doesn't mean I have to make something up. Same goes for not knowing the future.

Your morals are not absolute, they are yours. They may be shared by many, some in common with my own I'm sure.

But check your arrogance long enough to realize that on the subject of homosexuality, you and your religion don't have the corner on values. If you keep thinking you do, you're only deceiving yourself. Well, and your daughter, too.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

(((OMG)))~~~What (((Great Great Poster Children ))) // ((( The Self Righteous Ones )))

(((WE ARE))) very pleased with (( YU )) tonite.

So dang hard to keep up w / ya (((BIGOTS))) and that (((NO thinking THANG)))

hey Guys and Gals how about we let them play alone for awhile

Should be great reading.

there is (( NO )) reasoning with ((( RED NECKs ))) on a Friday NIte. ((( NONE )))

Just Party on w / out this (( BS )) (:~)

Seacoast,

So basically you are saying that there is no sin in your life.

You don't answer to anyone but yourself.

Is that it?

Autum, your comments about love for a child are correct. But this law is affecting grown-ups who are just trying to live their lives as best they can. They have that right.

I don't want your kind of "love". I have parents, thanks. They raised me just fine. My moral compass points true.

Mind your own house. Stop sticking your nose in other people's bedrooms.

It's not nice. It's not fair. It's not right.

No on 1!

Denis: Thank you, stand for unity and equality and Vote NO on 1.

vote yes on one. did you read the story of the counselor who was targeted?? now get the rest of the story!

The following statement can be attributed to Stand for Marriage Maine Executive Committee member Bob Emrich:

(Portland, ME) – “Yesterday, Stand for Marriage Maine Yes on 1 released a statement on the disturbing development on the livelihood of Don Mendell, a Maine high school counselor who has had a complaint filed against him triggered by Don Mendell's appearance in a pro-traditional marriage Yes on 1 television ad.

“Additional information is coming to light and it’s worse than we thought.

“The redacted copy of the complaint against Mr. Mendell was filed by Ann Sullivan. Ms. Sullivan works for Randy Gould, who is the principal at Newport/Plymouth School. Mr. Gould’s wife, Sherri Gould, appeared in a NO on 1 campaign commercial. Nokomis High School has five stakeholders in the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning Youth Commission which recommends steps to aggressively push the gay agenda to toddlers through twelfth graders.

“It would appear that the education system is fine with one of their own appearing on TV in opposition to Question 1, but the system will come down on you – and hard – if you support Question 1 and favor traditional marriage, which is what Mr. Mendell did by appearing in our ad.

“This is a powerful example of how the gay marriage agenda will be forced on students. Those who object will be silenced and those in power will push it throughout the school system just as they have outlined in their Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning Youth Commission report, a copy of which is on Maine’s Children’s Cabinet website.

“No American should have his or her livelihood threatened for believing marriage is a union of one man and one woman. But this is precisely what legal scholars on both sides of the debate forecast would happen if same-sex marriage were to become legal in Maine. The difference between what they said earlier and today is that the predictions are coming true even without LD 1020 taking effect!

“This debate is about much more than protecting marriage. It is also about preserving free speech, freedom of conscience, and religious liberty and about what our children are taught in schools.

“Keep in mind that this situation deals with a school counselor. The complaint demands, in effect, that all school counselors support same-sex marriage. Otherwise, they should lose their licenses and be banished from the profession.

“This threat to Don, and his family and his livelihood, reveals that those who want to redefine marriage will try to punish and silence anyone who disagrees.

“Are the people of Maine even free to disagree without fear of harmful attack from those with whom they disagree? This attempt by someone aligned with same-sex marriage activists to strip a traditional marriage supporter of his livelihood suggests Mainers cannot. And that attitude is wholly contrary to Maine values.

“The opposition will stop at nothing – even threatening a man’s career and his family’s well-being – to silence dissent.

“It’s ironic that those who preach tolerance are so intolerant that they would threaten a father’s career and put his family’s future at risk. This latest attack reveals the true face of the opposition.

“When the people of Maine vote yes to protect marriage Tuesday, it will be a victory not only for marriage, but a victory for free speech and religious liberty. Otherwise, Don will only be the first victim of this much larger agenda.

“The Yes on 1 campaign has said and proved homosexual marriage will be a topic of discussion in Maine schools if it is legalized in Maine. Most recently, on Thursday, October 29, assembled Maine teachers and students joined Yes on 1 in showing:

“a. A Governor Baldacci Commission made up almost entirely (85-percent) of members of the No on 1 Coalition, the Maine Education establishment, and the Maine Attorney General's office are recommending Maine pre-K through college classrooms for eye-opening recommendations on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Questioning Youth issues.

“b. Maine's Family Life education courses, school Civil Rights teams, Diversity Teams, and Gay and Straight Alliances are in place for pervasive discussion in Maine schools on homosexual topics.

“Now, sadly, Maine guidance counselor Don Mendell is the latest proof from the Yes on 1 campaign that there will be horrendous consequences if Question 1 fails and same-sex marriage becomes legal.

“It is of no comfort to Mr. Mendell and his family that the No on 1 campaign is publicly trying to distance itself from Ms. Sullivan’s complaint. The fact is that this should deeply concern every Mainer, especially Mainers who, like Don Mendell, need government licensing for their livelihoods. Governor Baldacci and legislators who supported LD 1020 were warned many times the pending law has serious flaws with far-reaching, negative consequences for Mainers. It’s coming true today and homosexual marriage is not even Maine law.”

Maine Democrats have been in control for almost 40 years. Look at what this State has become. Unions, environazis and the PC crowd are running AMOK!!!! vote yes on four!!!!!! stop the lobbyists and special intrests groups from lining the pockets of the elected. 82,000 bucks for bottled water, 700,000 bucks for mag and paper subscriptions, and the dems are screaming about cuts and telling us schools will fall apart because of tabor???? yeah okay, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Keep your democrat fingers out of the gas tax so my truck stops being a rattle box while I drive to work to support your bottled water and paper/magazine addiction.

http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=12276

The 2009 Maine Piglet uncovered dozens of examples of wasteful and questionable spending by state and local officials, including:

$435,224,338 State employees: Over-employed and over-compensated

$192,940,000 State money borrowed with no voter approval

$99,428,000 Questionable capital building project recommendations

$11,900,000 New 55,000-sq. foot administrative building for 116 turnpike workers;

$6,000,000 Bankrupt taxpayer-funded museum

$1,500,000 Department of Education migrant student fraud

$102,000 Three paintings for a rest stop in Kennebunk

$82,533 “Bottled Water” in 2008

chicky :

Quoting the YES on ONE campaign as an authoritative source for information regarding the complaint filed on Mr. Mendell is ridiculous, and little more than a political stunt.

The claim that anything is going to happen to Mr. Mendell, that his livelihood is in any way threatened, and the accused links to the NO on ONE campaign are the types of lies and distortions that everyone has come to expect from the YES on ONE campaign.

You are not fooling anybody.

The YES on ONE champaign is doing everything it can, has been doing everything it can, to mislead and frighten people. They've broken state disclosure laws and illegally concealed the names of their donors from the public, they've attacked and said horrible things about same-sex couples and their families, and they've made it very clear that they intend to continue to force their extremist religious views on the state of Maine.

Pretend persecution from you people is just that - pretend. Meanwhile, the people who really suffer, the families, the children, of same-sex couples go ignored by the religious extremists that run and contribute to the YES on ONE campaign.

For the YES on ONE people to claim that they represent any kind of victory for religious freedom is an insult to reason and common sense.

They are, after all, the ones that want to prevent the churches that wish to do so from marrying people.

So you go on and spread your lies and hate, and pretend tat you represent something righteous and true.

The rest of us will continue to expose your lies and your malignant intentions for what they are, and will continue to fight for OUR rights, for the rights of OUR churches to marry the couples we choose to recognize.

Go ahead, come for us, I invite you to give it your best shot, because it's YOU tat seek to oppress religious freedom, it's YOU that seek to do harm, not the other way around.

Have some integrity for a change, whatever Mr. Mendell has done that is a violation of state law has NOTHING TO DO WITH QUESTION ONE. If he is in violation of a state law, it's one that is already on the books, one that has already been passed BY the people of Maine.

Admit it, you don't seek to just stop same-sex marraige - you seek to TAKE AWAY what equality gay people have in Maine.

We see you for what and who you are, and we do not buy it, not for a second.

Please Vote No on One and send a message to the religious extremists that it's not OK to lie and to harm families, to take away the rights of churches to marry people they chose to marry, and to hide behind their religion to do it !

I am not a religious extremist....but it is typical for the no side to play the victim card. I have common sense, read the writing on the wall. vote yes on one.

I challenge you AiconCa to read this link and defend it!

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/black_book/black_book_inside.html

is it any wonder that the list of donors would be an issue when the Goulds and Anne Sullivan prove the need to protect the first amendment rights of those who do not want to be the next target????

chicky ;

for you to lie outright and reference and extremist web site as your authoritative source of information jsut proves that you are not only an extremist, but you are a liar.

Have a little integrity and at least admit what you are.

You are not fooling anybody.

Vote NO on Question One ~ extremists are out to take away YOUR religious freedom, and to control YOUR church.

you are not fooling anybody either. the litle black book was paid for with Mass tax money . mass resistance just gives adults a glimpse of what it is and where it was passed out to CHILDREN you can attack the source, but you can not deny the books existence. read the writing on the wall. vote yes on one.

I hope you understand how many poster on here have no vote on this issue or are just outright Bigots, that try to use smoking mirrows to pretend to be just the opposite. They are usuallly called on these posting just Bigots (no other short way to describe them) OR snakes in the grass. Both are easily understood terms by most posters. Readers not so sure. So really IF you are a Bigot or a Snake in the Grass, one would think that they would be honest and just say so. NOt the case folks, just not the case. These posters either use multible names (handles) or just the same name. Hard to tell isn`t it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=CONGRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The law "does not prohibit gay and lesbian couples from marrying, nor does it prohibit the states from acknowledging same-sex marriages," according to the court filing by Assistant Attorney General Tony West.

Massachusetts, the filing continues, is trying to claim individuals have a right to federal benefits based on marital status.

"There is, however, no fundamental right to marriage-based federal benefits," according to the 36-page filing.

Your children are high school students in Mass ?

And it's not a book, it's a flyer - and strangely enough, I haven't been able to verify that it actually was distributed in schools there.

This wouldn't be the first time extremists like you referenced fake sites with false information to further your agenda.

And to represent Mass Resistance as anything but and extremist site, is dishonest, again, have a little integrity.

Vote NO on ONE ~ don't let religious extremists prevent churches from marrying people who they want to marry.

Electra : not so hard to tell, really, they use the same reference materials and language.

cant confirm???? how about this from Mitt Rommney~

Statement from Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (Tues 5/17/05):

“This is not a state-funded publication. Graphic pornographic material on the gay lifestyle has no place in any school. While I agree that medically accurate information is essential in AIDS prevention efforts, this particular publication is grossly inappropriate and should never find its way into the hands of school-aged children.”

(((THIS IS PEREREE answer to try to use smoing mirrows on me. on page Yes on # 1 Friday )))

On 10/30/09 at 8:02 PM, Papere wrote:

The Pope said this today upon receiving in audience Delia Cardenas Christie, the new ambassador of Panama to the Holy See. In his address he underlined the "irreplaceable elements that create a healthy social fabric and build a vigorous society."

Specifically, he referred to the "defense of such primordial aspects as commitment to social justice, the struggle against corruption, the endeavor in favor of peace, the inviolability of the right to human life from the moment of conception to its natural death, as well as the safeguarding of the family based on marriage between a man and a woman."

Benedict XVI pointed out that the Church contributes "in a decisive way to dynamiting the present and enlivening the hope for a promising future."

And he added that "in the framework of the respective competencies and of reciprocal respect, the task of the Church, which because of her mission, is not confused with that of the State, and cannot be identified with any political program."

A little insight from the Boss in Rome!!

One posting and that is it for me tonight!!

Have a good evening and May God bless you all!!

Vote yes on 1

you can attack the source but the little black book exists. Mass resitance is an organization that is no more radical then the human rights campaign. radical is n the eye of the beholder. mass resitance was not the only source for this report. newspapers also ran stories on it. why is it that when something as inappropriate as this comes to light you attack the messanger instead of saying you agree that it is wrong?

THIS WAS MY ANSWER TO PEREREE after many hours addressing his/her comments

On 10/30/09 at 8:43 PM, ElectraGlide wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

8:02 Hey Papere~~~quote~~~"A little insight from the Boss in Rome!!"

I`m glad you are showing what you believe in. I would say that u are deep into religion.

But you seem to not understand this is what YOUR Pope also said " the task of the Church, which because of her mission, is not confused with that of the State, and cannot be identified with any political program."

If you are not from the United States u mite not understand the seperation of church and state.

If you are u should try to understand what the US Constitution is and what it means to a US citizens. Or you could just follow along and just ask questions.

Instead of just your opinion when it doen`t sound like you are a US Citizen.

We (the US of A) do not have to follow any Churches Teachings

Especially when it comes to Life LIberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and Equality for All.

Following a religious believe blindly well, there is just more to live then that.

You also seem to believe that there is only your God.

What about the other Religions in the World.

Do we all have to bow to your Pope and/or what happens if we don`t

Are going to hate everyone for the rest of your life because ALL the rest of the World doesn`t believe what you do.

Do you want to talk more and learn more than just what is just in your book.

There is much more to Life Papere than what you mite think.

Will see you tomorrow and see what you think

This is for you Pepere

Maybe you don`t understand what you are voting on

That is why asking simple ? helps alot.

NOt acting like you and you alone know it all.

Pepere: gay people are not animals OK

((((Electra Standing Tall and Just a little Human No on # 1)))

http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2005/05/19/explicit_pamphlets_displayed_at_school/

more confirmation....of course intially they denied it.

Explicit pamphlets displayed at school

Health center regrets mistake

By Joanna Weiss, Globe Staff | May 19, 2005

A community health organization apologized yesterday for bringing a sexually explicit pamphlet for young gay men to a recent conference at Brookline High School on gay and lesbian issues that was attended by high school and middle school students.

Fenway Community Health officials yesterday said they left about 10 copies of the ''Little Black Book" on an informational table they rented at a conference sponsored by the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network of Boston. The annual event, held on April 30 at Brookline High School, was aimed at high school students, educators, counselors, administrators, and parents.

The ''Little Black Book," produced by the AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, is targeted at 18-and-older gay men, according to the committee. The book uses vivid descriptions and colloquial terms to describe the ways HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases can be prevented and spread.

THIS IS A FOLLOW UP STATEMENT TO Pereree

On 10/30/09 at 9:02 PM, ElectraGlide wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

pepere~~just so you know I was baptized Roman Catholic

I am a white man married to a WOMEN

You mite want to find out who you are talking to

There alot people on here that are voting no that are just like me, except they mite also be from all races and religions

They mite also be Members of the Nazi Party or other Bigoted Hate Groups that are just trying to influence the people of Maine in a very evil way. I know you know what is evil

Ok perere, what I`m trying to tell you nicely is. You sounded you where from a very evil place and God and Maine needs to know

If you know what i mean

Just ask if you don`t

God Speed to YOU

THIS WAS Paperee next to last comment to me

On 10/30/09 at 9:21 PM, Papere wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

ElectraGlide;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Yes I know, and I am 65 years old, have been there and done that and I don't claim to be better than anyone else.

I have 5 kids and they all have been to college, except the last one has another year to go and goes at USM.

I have seven grandkids, and a daughter that just died a couple years ago and we are helping with her last baby boy who was a year old when she died. She died of ovarian cancer and it was a big hole left in the family. I am catholic and I practice my religion and respect all the religions of the whole world and I don't claim to know everything.

But these 65 five years of living in this world and how hard it is to raise a family nowadays. I have learn a lot about this life and the things that people go through. I respect all my brothers and sisters in this world and no discrimination.

You make it hard for me to have posted the last posting but just this one more and than I am done for the day, Good luck with your life and I wish all the success for you and your family. Thanks, it was a hard day but we are now civil about each other. God Bless!

This was Papere last POST of the DAY I think. Notice the time that ole tired Grammy is still up. There are many comments after that> And the names (handles) are alot of the times not the names that comment on ALL the other issues. Like Ref; ?`s #2, #3, #4, #5, #6,and #7.

Sounds like alot of Snakes in the Tall Grass to just little ole humble me.

On 10/30/09 at 11:02 PM, Papere wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

Oh yes before I go to bed, Vote yes on l

Yes on one, will do thank you!!!

Denis Santerre - I am not a self righteous person and you cannot make me feel ashamed of my self and I am voting yes on #1. What/Who gives you the right to label me? Talk about self-righteous . . . you are the definition.

VOTE YES ON #1

who voted for same sex marriage~

ALFOND of Cumberland D Y

BARTLETT of Cumberland D Y

BLISS of Cumberland D Y

BOWMAN of York D Y

BRANNIGAN of Cumberland D Y

BRYANT of Oxford D Y

COURTNEY of York R N

CRAVEN of Androscoggin D Y

DAMON of Hancock D Y

DAVIS of Cumberland R N

DIAMOND of Cumberland D Y

GERZOFSKY of Cumberland D Y

GOODALL of Sagadahoc D Y

GOOLEY of Franklin R N

HASTINGS of Oxford R N

HOBBINS of York D Y

JACKSON of Aroostook D N

MARRACHÉ of Kennebec D Y

McCORMICK of Kennebec R N

MILLS of Somerset R Y

MITCHELL of Kennebec D Y

NASS of York R N

NUTTING of Androscoggin D Y

PERRY of Penobscot D Y

PLOWMAN of Penobscot R N

RAYE of Washington R N

RECTOR of Knox R Y

ROSEN of Hancock R X

SCHNEIDER of Penobscot D Y

SHERMAN of Aroostook R N

SIMPSON of Androscoggin D Y

SMITH of Piscataquis R N

SULLIVAN of York D Y

TRAHAN of Lincoln R N

WESTON of Waldo R N

ADAMS of Portland D Y

AUSTIN of Gray R N

AYOTTE of Caswell R N

BEAUDETTE of Biddeford D N

BEAUDOIN of Biddeford D Y

BEAULIEU of Auburn R Y

BECK of Waterville D Y

BERRY of Bowdoinham D Y

BICKFORD of Auburn R N

BLANCHARD of Old Town D N

BLODGETT of Augusta D Y

BOLAND of Sanford D Y

BOLDUC of Auburn D Y

BRIGGS of Mexico D N

BROWNE of Vassalboro R N

BRYANT of Windham D Y

BURNS of Whiting R N

BUTTERFIELD of Bangor D Y

CAIN of Orono D Y

CAMPBELL of Newfield R Y

CAREY of Lewiston D Y

CASAVANT of Biddeford D Y

CEBRA of Naples R N

CELLI of Brewer R X

CHASE of Wells R N

CLARK of Millinocket D N

CLARK of Easton R N

CLEARY of Houlton D Y

COHEN of Portland D Y

CONNOR of Kennebunk D Y

CORNELL du HOUX of Brunswick D Y

COTTA of China R N

CRAFTS of Lisbon R N

CRAY of Palmyra R N

CROCKETT of Bethel R N

CROCKETT of Augusta D Y

CURTIS of Madison R N

CUSHING of Hampden R N

DAVIS of Sangerville R N

DILL of Cape Elizabeth D Y

DOSTIE of Sabattus D Y

DRISCOLL of Westbrook D Y

DUCHESNE of Hudson D Y

EATON of Sullivan D Y

EBERLE of South Portland D Y

EDGECOMB of Caribou R N

EVES of North Berwick D Y

FINCH of Fairfield D N

FITTS of Pittsfield R N

FLAHERTY of Scarborough D Y

FLEMINGS of Bar Harbor D Y

FLETCHER of Winslow R N

FLOOD of Winthrop R Y

FOSSEL of Alna R N

GIFFORD of Lincoln R N

GILBERT of Jay D Y

GILES of Belfast R Y

GOODE of Bangor D Y

GREELEY of Levant R X

HAMPER of Oxford R N

HANLEY of Gardiner D N

HARLOW of Portland D Y

HARVELL of Farmington R N

HASKELL of Portland D Y

HAYES of Buckfield D Y

HILL of York D Y

HINCK of Portland D Y

HOGAN of Old Orchard Beach D Y

HUNT of Buxton D Y

JOHNSON of Greenville R N

JONES of Mount Vernon D Y

JOY of Crystal R N

KAENRATH of South Portland D Y

KENT of Woolwich D Y

KNAPP of Gorham R N

KNIGHT of Livermore Falls R N

KRUGER of Thomaston D Y

LAJOIE of Lewiston D N

LANGLEY of Ellsworth R N

LEGG of Kennebunk D Y

LEWIN of Eliot R N

LOVEJOY of Portland D Y

MacDONALD of Boothbay D Y

MAGNAN of Stockton Springs D Y

MARTIN of Eagle Lake D X

MARTIN of Orono D Y

MAZUREK of Rockland D Y

McCABE of Skowhegan D Y

McFADDEN of Dennysville R N

McKANE of Newcastle R N

McLEOD of Lee R N

MILLER of Somerville D Y

MILLETT of Waterford R N

MORRISON of South Portland D Y

NASS of Acton R N

NELSON of Falmouth D Y

NUTTING of Oakland R N

O'BRIEN of Lincolnville D Y

PENDLETON of Scarborough D Y

PEOPLES of Westbrook D Y

PERCY of Phippsburg D Y

PERRY of Calais D Y

PETERSON of Rumford D Y

PIEH of Bremen D Y

PILON of Saco D Y

PINGREE of North Haven D Y

PINKHAM of Lexington Township R N

PIOTTI of Unity D Y

PLUMMER of Windham R N

PRATT of Eddington D X

PRESCOTT of Topsham R Y

PRIEST of Brunswick D Y

RANKIN of Hiram D Y

RICHARDSON of Carmel R Y

RICHARDSON of Warren R N

ROBINSON of Raymond R N

ROSEN of Bucksport R X

ROTUNDO of Lewiston D Y

RUSSELL of Portland D Y

SANBORN of Gorham D Y

SARTY of Denmark R N

SAVIELLO of Wilton U N

SCHATZ of Blue Hill D Y

SHAW of Standish D N

SIROIS of Turner D Y

SMITH of Monmouth D Y

STEVENS of Bangor D Y

STRANG BURGESS of Cumberland R Y

STUCKEY of Portland D Y

SUTHERLAND of Chapman D Y

SYKES of Harrison R N

TARDY of Newport R N

THERIAULT of Madawaska D N

THIBODEAU of Winterport R N

THOMAS of Ripley R N

TILTON of Harrington R N

TREAT of Hallowell D Y

TRINWARD of Waterville D Y

TUTTLE of Sanford D N

VALENTINO of Saco D Y

VAN WIE of New Gloucester D Y

WAGNER of Lyman D Y

WAGNER of Lewiston D Y

WALSH INNES of Yarmouth D Y

WATSON of Bath D Y

WEAVER of York R N

WEBSTER of Freeport D Y

WELSH of Rockport D Y

WHEELER of Kittery D Y

WILLETTE of Presque Isle D N

WRIGHT of Berwick D Y

chicky -- 7:08 AM it's the only defense they have.

Ben Brown -- I'm voting for TABOR.

Why do Christian religious zealots quote scripture to prove the point that Jesus/God is against homosexuality but they never quote Jesus' direct words? Instead they quote Paul's interpretation of what Jesus said or they quote from the OLD Testament? Why not quote what Jesus says about who will know the kingdom of heave? Wish we could deport all your Christian wing nuts to another planet where you can have Bible study all day long.!

one need not look at stand for marriage maine to get the complaint filed....here it is

http://www.asmainegoes.com/Mendell_Sullivan_Notice_of_Complaint.pdf

Christian religious "zealots" have as much right to their opinion as does any one else. Their opinion is also protected by the bill of rights AND civil rights protections. this is a clash of the unintened consequences of social engineering ....two rights coming head to head..isnt government wonderful?

Just Electras way of trying to help ((( ALL ))) that (( Really )) want to try to understand

what is true vs false

what is right vs wrong

what is good vs evil

what is seperation from State and Religion

what is the Right to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness for ALL

what is Equality or Not

what does the Constitution say about ALL that.

what can a small minority Religious / or any special interest group do someday, someplace to some of any of our rights

My families ((( Rights ))) are to precious to just ((( Give ))) away to ((( ANYONE )))

(((((This is MY State as much as it is ANYONES )))))

((((( ElectraGlide and Wife and Maine Coon Cat )))))

((((((( Very Proudly Voting NO for what I hope is a landslide Victory )))))))

((((((((((( Showing the World That Maine Stands for Equality ))))))))))))

its not just Christains either, its those of Jewish and Islamic faith as well....its just more acceptable to attack Christians right??? or to call someone a racist or a tea bagging red neck. Liberals are the party of group indentity, labels for everyone and no indvidual freedom or responsibility.

For what shall it profit a man,

if he shall gain the whole world,

and lose his own soul???

chicky, you missed a big one. $155,000,000 for dirigo, a program that is designed to drive up health care costs for everyone else. We are #3 in this country behind New York an Mississippi on percentage of our GDP that is spent on health care, and #5 for cost per capita. Our cost is outrageous compare to similar states as far as size and population. http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_tot_sta_hea_car_spe_percap-state-care-spending-per-capita

I am very happy to be one of the many straight but enlightened people who have already voted or will vote No on 1. It is time to stop the judgmental ideas that pervade the mentality of those who would deny equal rights to everyone. Over the short history of our country we have denied equal rights to minorities and women and every time there were those who called themselves religious and hid behind the bible to justify their fears and their prejudices. I believe Maine will vote, by a margin of 3%, to finally give equal rights, to live and let live those who do no harm to others, and to do away with laws that have anything to do with religion. People should be able to love who they want to as long as they cause no harm and there is no evidence ANYWHERE that gay marriage or being gay has caused harm to anyone. Bigotry, prejudice, and judgmentalism will be history in Maine. Vote No on 1.

good point mAineAc....... we need to shine light on what almost 40 years of democrats in Augusta have burdened us with. vote yes on 4

God Grant Me

The

Serenity

to accept the things I cannot change

The Courage to change the things I can

And the Wisdom to know the Difference

(((((( With Gods Spirit This is Going to be Fine Mother of a Day)))))

((( Bring it on One and All )))

for Gods True Spirit of Maine

and

the good ole USA

is waiting for the Truth ToDay

((((( There Is Nothing Finer then to Fight For Equality )))))

(((( It Just Makes You Feel Just So Dang Proud ))))

(((((((((( To be an American )))))))))))

(((( Come on Good People of Maine ))))

((((Just Fight on and on for the Battle is All most Done ))))

((((((((((( God Bless America ))))))))))))

Enjoy the View

but

watch the road

to Equality

Being gay is not a choice.

It is interesting the the religious folks keep thinking that way. They are being taught by their priests and pastors that gayness is some sort of immoral choice. This is simply is not true. Anyone who could really believe being gay is a choice, must be gay, and have made the "choice" to repress his sexuality, get married, have kids and pose as a straight person. This is likely, because many priests and pastors have taken this route, believing they have made a "choice" against sin, when in reality they have simply repressed who they are. Sadly, they are teaching this nonsense to their congregations.

They are still gay, always have been, always will be.

Ask yourself on what day of your life did you choose your own sexuality?

The answer is obvious......

lol look who shows up on the GLAD site as civil rights team leader

http://www.glad.org/uploads/docs/publications/list-of-me-school-civil-rights-teams.pdf

Newport Elementary School Ann Sullivan Newport 368-4470 the same lady who is telling your religious child they have no right their religious beliefs.

Right on - those of you who are opposed to equal rights because of religious perversions - keep your creepy God away from me. My belief system has no room for a bigoted, selfish deity

(((((( Yes_ON_1~~~~Why is it a Shock to you That Alot of Maine`ers

are voting for Equality

it is not a Shock for alot of others Maine`rs ??? ))))

wysepn, right after you tell me on what day of your life you chose to not be a pedophile.

You know as a Staight Male I haveto always Admit

That there are some Very Handsome Gay Males out there

You know have you ever Thought what YOU could DO

(((( With LOOKS like DAT ??????????????? ))))))

My ? to You Yes`ers IS.

Why would anybody that LOOKED that Handsome

Want to be GAY

Good ONE !!!! Hummmmmmm !!!!!!!

Voting NO on # 1 ((((( (:~) )))))

What a pig forShame is

Pedophile forHimtoday~~~(cough cough) yep a man leading the Way for ME today. NOT !!!

Pedophile isn`t that Thang we read about ALL the Time about Preist in The Roman Catholic Church !!!HuuuuuMMMMMMMMMM !!!!!!

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Maine already has protections for same sex couples.....

http://www.glad.org/rights/maine/c/family-law-in-maine/

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10.30.09 @9:16 PM joesalters wrote: GOD WILL FORGIVE YOUR SINS BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO QUIT THE SIN YOU WERE DOING, AFTER YOUR CONFESSION.

I guess confession doesn't mean much for so many people. The "sin" keeps happening over and over again. I don't know which is worse, "confession" or "I'm A Christian".

Voted NO ON 1 already!

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As a Humane Service that I have been for 20 years

Why do Some of the Happiest Children that I see

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Why Yes`ers are Gays not Just the Same as

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Election Day is just a few days away! That means the YES On 4 campaign is making the final push to spread the word about the need for reasonable growth in government spending and voter approval of excessive spending and tax increases.

This Monday (just one day before Election Day!), we will hold two rallies, one in Bangor and one in Portland, to support Question 4-the Maine Taxpayer Bill of Rights (TABOR). Maine needs TABOR now more than ever.

BANGOR: 10:00-11:00am

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Not Like what some want to Today to GAYs

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chicky: Have you read the list of protections that Maine has for same sex couples? What are the protections you claim? Anything other than "marriage" doesn't cover much at all. I guess you haven't read them but follow what "Christians" say. Perhaps, if you had to carry documentations with you everywhere you go in case of an emergency, to have proof of your relationship, I think you will change the way you think, then again, maybe not! The word "marriage" alone is accepted. I don't understand where you get the idea that protections for same sex couples are ready in place. What planet are you from anyway?

funny you should mention Martin Luther King.....his daughter Bernice has said the following~

“I know in my sanctified soul that he (Dr. King) did not take a bullet for same-sex marriage.”

lol knead24u I took them off GLAD's site...that I linked to. Reading is fundemental. You act like I make this stuff up out of thin air. get a grip and take your emotions out of it. I do not follow what Christians, Jewish or Muslim people say...but you like a good liberal only saw fit to atttack christians. BIGOT!

Lets Not Forget

Those Indians

We Treated of so Well

oh my oh om

The Spirit of God

Mite not be Proud

OF

The March of Shame oh my oh my

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I think NOT

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Can same-sex couples obtain any legal recognition of their relationships in Maine?

Yes, although at present that recognition is not as complete as the recognition afforded to civilly married couples.

In 2004, the Maine legislature approved and Governor John Baldacci signed a domestic partnership law titled “An Act to Promote the Financial Security of Maine’s Families and Children.” 52 This law creates a domestic partnership registry in Maine and affords certain rights to registered domestic partners in the event of a partner’s death or incapacity. It defines “domestic partners” as “2 unmarried adults who are domiciled together under long-term arrangements that evidence a commitment to remain responsible indefinitely for each other’s welfare.” 53 The specific requirements for registration are set out below.

a.Inheritance Rights: In the absence of a will, registered domestic partners in Maine are given the same inheritance rights as a legally recognized spouse (although unequal tax burdens remain).

b.Legal Priority: The law provides that a domestic partner:

?will be treated like a spouse when seeking to be a guardian of his or her partner in the event of that partner’s incapacity;

?will have the same priority as legal spouses in seeking a protective order concerning the partner’s estate or the welfare of the partner;

?is entitled to notice of hearings concerning the appointment of guardians in the event of the partner’s incapacity; and

?is entitled to notice of the issuance of protective orders in the event of death.

c.Survivorship Rights: In the event of one partner’s death, the law makes the surviving domestic partner the first of the next of kin when determining who has the right to make funeral and burial arrangements. (As with surviving spouses, if a surviving domestic partner is estranged from the partner at the time of death, the domestic partner may not have custody and control of the deceased’s remains. Note: It is important to remember that in these matters, a written will and advance directive will supersede this law. Thus, if your partner has a written will or directive giving someone else any of these rights, that person will be given priority over you in asserting those rights, regardless of your registration as Domestic Partners.

?State law requires all insurers providing health coverage in the State of Maine to offer their policyholders the option of additional benefits for their “domestic partner.”58

?Maine’s Family Medical Leave Law was amended in June 200759 to include the employee’s “domestic partner” and child of the employee’s “domestic partner.” The law allows up to 10 weeks unpaid leave to care for a sick partner or the child of either the employee or partner. Also, family medical leave provides leave if an employee is a “domestic partner” of a member of the armed services.60

?In 2007, the Maine legislature passed an “Act Regarding Fairness for Families Regarding Worker’s Compensation Coverage” which added “domestic partners” of employers to the list of individuals who may waive worker’s compensation coverage in certain circumstances.61

?Also in 2007, the law concerning absentee ballot procedures was amended to include “domestic partners” under the definition of “immediate family” for the purpose of requesting an absentee ballot.62

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see~ they (GLAD)call them "protections"

Legal Protections for Same-Sex Couples

What steps can a couple take to safeguard their legal relationship in Maine?

1.Relationship Agreement or Contract: Agreements regarding property and finances should be respected and honored according to ordinary rules of contract law. The Maine Law Court has not yet specifically ruled on the subject, but that result comports with Maine contract law and the law of other states that have found such agreements to be enforceable.69

2.Durable Power of Attorney: Any competent person may appoint another person as his or her “attorney-in-fact” for financial and/or other matters in the event he or she becomes incapacitated or disabled.70 If no such appointment is made, then a “family” member will be empowered to make decisions for the disabled or incapacitated individual. A person may also nominate his or her guardian or conservator in the same document. This is a longer-term appointment that takes priority over the attorney-in-fact. This choice can only be rejected by a court for good cause or disqualification. The mere fact that a family member is not named as the guardian or conservator does not constitute good cause.

3.Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care: Medical care providers often look to next-of-kin to make health care decisions for an incapacitated individual. If an unmarried person wants someone other than his or her legal family to make these decisions, then a durable power of attorney for health care is a critical source of protection. In Maine, a person can appoint a health care agent to make decisions for him or her immediately, or upon incompetence.71 It must be signed by two witnesses (not including the person appointed as attorney-in-fact). It can only be revoked while he or she is still competent. Otherwise it must be revoked in court.72 While a written Durable Power of Attorney provides the most certainty that a person will be cared for by the person he or she wants to make those decisions, Maine law also has a procedure by which “an adult who shares an emotional, physical and financial relationship with the patient similar to that of a spouse” 73 can make health care decisions for an incapacitated person. This provision might be cumbersome to enforce, but provides a way for a partner to be involved in his or her incapacitated partner’s health care decisions absent documentation. Within this Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care, or in a separate document called an “Advance Directive,” a person may address end of life issues like artificial nutrition and other life-sustaining treatments.74 The Attorney General’s Office has a model advance directive posted on their website, http://www.maine.gov/ag/index.php?r=healthissues&s=endoflife&t. While a written Advance Directive provides the most certainty that a person’s wishes will be followed, Maine law also allows a procedure for a person to make end of life decisions for another if they can prove they are family members.75 Spouses are given first priority, followed by “an adult who shares an emotional, physical and financial relationship with the patient similar to that of a spouse.” 76 This provision might be cumbersome to enforce, but provides a way for a partner to be involved in his or her partner’s end of life decision.

4.Will: Without a will and without having registered as a domestic partner, a deceased unmarried person’s property passes to: (1) his or her children; (2) his or her family; (3) if next-of-kin cannot be located, to the state. If the person wishes to provide for others, such as his or her partner, a will is essential. Even if a person has few possessions, he or she can name in the will who will administer his or her estate. If a person has children, he or she can nominate a guardian of the child which will become effective upon death. Such nominations are highly regarded by courts although they are not binding on the court.

5.Funeral Planning Documents: Upon death, a person’s next-of-kin is given control of the deceased’s body. This means that a person’s own partner has no automatic right to remove the body or make plans for a final resting place.77 If a person has either (1) registered as a domestic partner under the state law; and/or (2) designated in writing that another person is to have custody and control of their remains (such as their partner or a friend), then that person will have control over the body as well as funeral arrangements and the selection of a final resting place. 78 It is infinitely preferable to prepare funeral planning documents in advance than to leave instructions as part of a will since a will may not be found for days after death.

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I see that some are still talking about Mr. Mendell having a complaint filed against him for voicing his views in a television spot broadcast repeatedly statewide.

I think it's important to recognize that the Catholic church REMOVED a woman for daring to speak for marriage equality in her local newspaper. Here's the story, which was run in today's Bangor paper but I can't find it online on this site:

Gay marriage supporter removed from ministries (National Catholic Reporter)

http://ncronline.org/news/gay-marriage-supporter-removed-ministries

So I ask anyone who is outraged over Mr. Mendell's treatment, where is your outrage for Pamella Beliveau? Mr. Mendell will most likely keep his job, but Ms. Beliveau has been completely removed from her post at her church!

I'm voting NO on 1, because we should all treat each other with fairness and equality.

I am not paying her salary, as a tax payer I am paying Mendell's both Goulds and Anne Sullivans....they should all keep their opinions to themselves and keep both opinions out of pulbic schools.

I agree with you on that chicky, both teachers should keep their opinions off the airwaves on that.

But it's disgusting that Mutty is using the ALLEGED complaint against Mendell as 'proof' against marriage equality, while HIS CHURCH is retaliating against compassionate Catholics who are voicing their opinions.

In response to "A Case For Tabor" I'd like to respectfully ask if Mr. Grant attended any of the RSU board meetings?

If he hadn't, then he missed the conversations regarding how the consolidation was going to cost Glenburn more (at least for a few years) than it was going to save, hence the reason the taxes in Glenburn went up. In other words, the state gets to pay less, and the property owners get to pay more.

It may also interest him to know that Glenburn has less voting weight and more pupils. Should the taxpayers pay more for having more pupils? Yes, that's fair, but as far as voting rights, it's less due to complicated rules on weighted voting.

I'm all for saving tax money but just as long as people are sure to read the "fine print" - especially with regard to consolidation. That may be something to consider on voting day.

YES_ON_1 wrote: " crazyfingers

one rational reason is that it degrades the standing of traditional families."

That's nonsense. It has zero impact on "traditional marriage" No more than when laws against interracial marriage were banned.

NO_ON_1> "is that it is a sin to carry out homosexual acts."

Sin is a religious concept. It's irrational. Do you eat shellfish?

NO_ON_1>"if I am a bigot for wanting to teach my children that homosexual acts are a sin than so be it."

Yes you are

NO_ON_1>"if I am a bigot for wanting to uphold the high honor of traditional marriage than so be it."

Yes you are.

NO_ON_1> "your argument falls short always, because you have an inherently flawed set of moral values, it is not difficult to make a mockery of your stance."

What bull. My morality is based on my values which include freedom and justice for me and freedom and justice for others and empathy for others. I don't base my morality on 1700 to 1900 to 2500 old fables. People who advocated killing kids who are disobedience. People who killed people for not following their religion. The Bible is not a reliable guide to moral living.

NO_ON_1> "it's quite easy as a matter of fact."

You provide no arguments for why gay marriage would be immoral.

NO_ON_1> "The good Lord above will not consider me a bigot I am sure of that."

Your lord almost certainly does not exist.

NO_ON_1>"However he will not take mercy on the souls of those who are corrupting the children of the world.

You and yours should pay heed. The road to hell is paved with opportunity, and acceptance of gay marriage is a big one at that."

As usual, religion is all about threats. What a disgusting religion you have. Truly repugnant.

YES_ON_1 wrote: "Seacoast

A sin is a sin."

Demonstrate that what you call a sin has any relationship to moral behavior.

Once again the right-wing Christian Mullahs are out to impose their religion onto others. It certainly shows that it's just as easy for Christianity to be a religion of hate as it is for it to be a religion of love. It all depends on the characters of the individual christians. Good people follow the good stuff. Bad people follow the bad stuff.

chicky....I know several Lesbian couples that have been together for years. One has been in a committed relationship for 25+ years. But in all cases, a hospital can bar the partner from the ill/sick partner because they have no legal standing. Sure Health Care Proxies exist and can be followed but they are not the same thing as marriage. A blood relative can and do step in and overrule the partner on many occasions. The ONLY way to insure a committed couple has the same legal standing as a married couple is through marriage or Civil Union. Since we are not voting on Civil Union I have voted No on 1 to protect committed couples and provide the same legal standing as heterosexual couples.

chicky wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

Can same-sex couples obtain any legal recognition of their relationships in Maine?

Yes, although at present that recognition is not as complete as the recognition afforded to civilly married couples.

Not all of the rights and responsibilities. And there is NO REASON to make gays go though that trouble and expense when civil marriage takes care of it. Stop trying to hurt others.

convival~ I have no self interest in what church leaders on either side promote...if one should lose tax exemption (which is threatened) they should both sides be threatened. I do not attend church but realize they are protected under the bill of rights as well as civil rights. Schools however I do have interest in....as a tax payer.

God has power over all of us even you atheists.VOTE YES ON 1

I did not write that....lets be clear, that is copied from GLADS site...THEY call it rights and protections.

crazyfingers i am not attempting to hurt anyone....this is a convoluted mess of rights vs. rights. i dont have the answer but i looked at the school issue, and the freedom of speech issue, freedom of religion and the exercise of and decided to err on the side of caution and will vote yes on one and hope that the protections and rights that GLAD shows will help surrounding legal issues of same sex couples. If that in your eyes makes me a bigot then so be it. I have one vote just like you.

chicky wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

crazyfingers i am not attempting to hurt anyone....this is a convoluted mess of rights vs. rights.

There is no issue of rights vs rights. It's only equal protection of the law. same sex civil marriage does not impose on the rights of heterosexuals in any way.

chicky> " i dont have the answer but i looked at the school issue, and the freedom of speech issue, freedom of religion and the exercise of and decided to err on the side of caution and will vote yes on one "

Then you will vote to harm people for no good reason. Same sex civil marriage doesn't impose on anyone's rights and freedoms.

chicky. "and hope that the protections and rights that GLAD shows will help surrounding legal issues of same sex couples. If that in your eyes makes me a bigot then so be it. I have one vote just like you."

It is not a complete as civil marriage is and it requires a lot of time and money to accomplish for no good reason when civil marriage would accomplish more for a lot less money and effort.

Don't vote to harm other people. Vote No on 1.

joesalters wrote: " God has power over all of us even you atheists.VOTE YES ON 1"

So you claim. You have no evidence at all. I have no doubt that you're wrong. Vote NO on 1. Don't vote to impose your religion onto others and to harm them.

Nice fresh shower I needed Dat !!

I would like to try to corralate something for those interested;

My Wife works at both EMMC and St Joes and she loves both.

As I`m sure they both love her.

I have worked as A Security Guard at EMMC just before retiring. (loved the attitude of care)

I would like to corralate what I feel is the Spirit of God at whatever church.

With what I feel is The Spirit of EMMC and how they take care of us all.

Lets just say there are 2 Pearly gates

1. The Pearly entrance gates of a ceremony of Marriage of two Bigots.

2. The Pearly entrance gates of EMMC for Bigots.

1. What if the Pearly Gates of Marriage said to you, we are just not taken Bigots here today.

2. What if the Pearly Gates of EMMC said to you, we are just not taken Bigots here today.

What would you expect the Citizens of Maine to Vote.

Equality or No Equality for Bigots.

What if the Vote was Sorry Just not on this Nov 3rd oh my oh my.

I would say that there would be Bigots that felt they were not being treated.

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((((( Electra / Wife / Kitty will be Voting for the misinformed Bigots on Nov 3rd)))))

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crazyfingers - I hope you don't teach your adopted children to accept sin and perversity - if you do, I would call that child abuse! And that, my friend, would make you the SLIME!

are you all trying to justify homosexuality because animals do it? are you serious? many animals eat their young, eat their own feces, and other deplorable things, does that means humans should too? what a joke!

wysepn - I choose my own sexuality every time I have relations with someone - it is a BEHAVIOR that I CHOOSE to engage in. Tomorrow I could, if I wanted to, choose to do it differently, but it would still and always be a choice - since sex is a behavior, it cannot be any other way.

jd2008 - proven fact - promiscuity among homosexuals is at least 100 times greater than heterosexuals - once again - pure perversion

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The only thing that changes should the marriage equality law get vetoed, is the fact that your taking from same sex couples the right to marry, other wise they will still live, laugh,love, have children, be families, they will still hold their heads high and be proud of the way nature created them, But most Important of all they will continue to fight until they have the same, excact same rights affroded to Opperset sex couples. The fight will equality will never stop and you can be assured that this The Marriage issue will be Visited again and again until every Man and woman of legal age and free will is granted the right to Marry as is set forth under Artical 7 (I beleive) of the Worlds Human rights treaty . AS well dening same sex couple the right to Marry is not only disccrimanation based on sexualty, it is also gender discrimanation. think about it they are being denied the right to Marry as they are the same Gender. Let me just state again, By voteing yes the issue will not go away it will be sought again and again until equality for all is WON!!!

On 10/31/09 at 11:37 AM, neocon wrote:

"jd2008 - proven fact - promiscuity among homosexuals is at least 100 times greater than heterosexuals - once again - pure perversion"

Without a source you "fact" is just your opinion. Fact - In Massachusetts the divorce rates have DECREASED every year since same sex marriage was approved.

"Massachusetts and Connecticut rank first and second, respectively, for having the lowest divorce rates in the nation, according to new 1994 divorce data from the National Center for Health Statistics."

Source - http://www.divorcereform.org/94staterates.html

ConvivialVisits, thank you for your 9:36 am post. That is very interesting and goes to show you that No on 1 supporters are being silenced as well. I think the debate in the Catholic church though does show a disparity between the church leadership and the values of many of the people in that church. Overall, I think Catholics are very tolerant people and I am confident that many of them will help us in defeating Question One.

"On 10/31/09 at 12:28 AM, YES_ON_1 wrote: Seacoast, So basically you are saying that there is no sin in your life. You don't answer to anyone but yourself. Is that it? "

Well, first off I don't use the word "sin". I realize it also can be referenced in secular terms, but it's generally spoken by bible-believers in regards to something that said book describes as bad.

Being an atheist, biblical sin is a non-issue. In my opinion, there is no god judging me.

To the second part of your question, of course I answer to other people. I obey the laws, honor my financial obligations, show up at the office on time and most importantly, I treat people with the respect they deserve.

I hope that answers your questions.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

The reality is, gay couples are helping society to raise the next generation of children, and in many of those cases, raising children whose biological parents didn't or couldn't raise them themselves.

Right there these couples qualify under the Yes' definition for the purpose for marriage and the state of Maine does therefore have a vested interest in protecting those relationships.

Why is the Yes campaign conveniently ignoring these families who are raising children? It makes me question their true motivations.

Vote No on One and extend the protections of marriage to ALL COMMITTED COUPLES RAISING CHILDREN!

"On 10/31/09 at 10:08 AM, joesalters wrote: God has power over all of us even you atheists.VOTE YES ON 1"

LOL...to an atheist, your post is like pointing a finger at someone and demanding all their money. It's an empty threat.

Try again, joe.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

"On 10/31/09 at 8:47 AM, forHIMtoday wrote: wysepn, right after you tell me on what day of your life you chose to not be a pedophile"

Wow...forhim, you really wrote this? Let me ask you when you chose not to be a pedophile.

You probably didn't because you were not likely sexually attracted to children. Therefore, you had no choice to make.

Or did you? formim, are you a pedophile but choose not to molest children?

Please vote "NO" on 1. Let's show the state that logic from people like forhim will not win the day.

Hey, Just got back from the store it is obvious that it is deer hunting season in ole Maine

Before I moved to the Greater Bangor Area I used to be an avid hunter of Deer, Ducks, Grouse and Rabbits.

Had dogs for all dat at one time or the other.

But moving and not wanting to learn new areas to hunt I gave it up.

After a few years I did not get that wishing I was doing that feelin today.

So you better know I can relate to hunting in ole Maine.

To bad though that a small % of hunters do not seem to understand that a Bigotry toward hunting has been building in Maine since back in the day.

For these lets call 1%`ers have no idea of how being seen at groceries still all dressed up in Orange. Looks when the act like the are stoned on something all the buying a 12 pak, throw it in the back of the PU and you can feel them saying to themselves. There now we can go back into the woods and look for that Trophy Buck. o my What Poster Hunters they are for the Bigotry of the Anti-hunters. And these 1% do not seem to have a freakin clue, now do YOU!!!!!

Guess ((WHO)) will (BE)swearing and ((ALL)) upset that they ((LOST)) there Right to

(((Hunt that Trophy Buck))).

The possible taken away of the ((Right to Hunt)) by ONE special interest GROUP !!!

Come On((hunters)) and others ((Wake Up!!!))

Hey you 1% of uninformed Deer Hunters, oh wait that was 1% way back in the Day.

It seems more like oh lets just say 25% are Poster Child hunters for what is not right today. Hummmmm !!!

Are you, YES folks, all right with teaching civil unions at schools?

Josep66, I am not a 'yes folk', but I don't think that is the job of the education system. Math, English, political science, science, architecture, those are school studies. Social interactions need to be taught at home. Once someone is in college if they want to have studies beyond that, it is fine. Sex as it is used in reproduction is fine in relation to the sciences. Beyond that social agendas of any type do not belong in schools. There is too much time already wasted on studies that have nothing to do with learning.

Marriage as it always has been?

Women were property of their husbands, polygamous marriages, underaged brides (younger than 9!); ¨marriage under consent of the king¨, not interracial marriage. And you still keep saying ¨marriage as always has been¨? Which of them?

neocon wrote: " crazyfingers - I hope you don't teach your adopted children to accept sin and perversity - if you do, I would call that child abuse! And that, my friend, would make you the SLIME!"

You really are a piece of work. Sin is a ludicrous religious concept that in many ways is divorced from what is actually right or wrong. My morality is guided by the golden rule and empathy for others. It's based on my values of freedom and justice for all and empathy for others. It's not based on what men thought to be moral in the days when people who didn't accept the superstitions were stoned to death or the book that people still use today to deprive others of their rights.

And I do teach my kids the Golden Rule. I do not teach my kids to follow the writings of primitive people on right and wrong because it's very clear that what you call sin is a *!&^#%ization of morality.

Josep66, polygamy is legal in more countries than not. Even in England they recognize plural marriages performed in other countries, you just can't get married more than once there. Polygamy is a common practice and the only reason it was made illegal in this country was for religious reasons. Though there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, religion does play a big part in the laws here. But your right marriage laws and history has not been consistent and that is a viable argument. Even in the bible it is defined differently depending on where you read or what translation you read. I like how people who presume to be not affiliated with Catholics, but they abide by a book that was assembled by them as if it is the word of god. There are hundreds if not thousands of books that were written that could have just as easily been added to this small group of stories and are just as pertinent and I never hear them refer to those works. There is a huge amount of stuff found in the dead sea scrolls that are original works from the bible, how come they don't go by the scrolls that were found with them? If they believe some of the stories I would think they would believe all of them if they have the same source.

As some know on here, my lovely wife and I went to Gettysburg on the way to the Tail of the Dragon. O my o them Smoky Mountains are flat out a National Treasure.

Anyway I would like to talk just a little bit about my experience at the Battle Fields of Blood Sweet and Tears. Everyone seems to look at things differently. For me I have always loved history and the Wars of History are my favorites.

A war between two thought processes on Americas Soil. AS I said everyone looks at things differently. I like to break big things down. So how I did that at Gettysburg, was to try to feel what it mite of been like to be one soldier on each side. As I believe history has shown us. One side was for good (blue) and one for evil (gray) or Right or Wrong.

It must have been pure hell on earth for a soldier on those Battle Fields. Just stop and think for a moment, what it must have been like crossing those fields. Knowing the chances of not ever seeing your loved ones again, was almost a given. If you did see them again it mite be with one arm or leg etc Just try and imagine what it must have been like to have a limp taken off w/o medication. Laying in those fields wounded for hours.

Just try to feel for a few minutes what it must have been like for our soldiers in Blue. Fighting with everything we had that stood between freedom for Blacks and the separation of our Great Country. The freedoms we fought so hard to have during the Revolutionary War.

What it was like for poor ole gray soldiers fighting for something and they did not own Blacks even though a lot where probably Bigots.

Our Country gave up a lot on those Battle Fields of Blood Sweet and Tears.

Here in Maine we seem to be fighting that same Battle for a people (Gays) that have been bashed for oh so long. Treated like second class citizens. Who actually knows for how long people have been abusing Gays.

Now in our History we see everyday the results of bigotry between the Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Jews and the Gays. And you know there are many more issues of Bigotry against other peoples for some reason.

Some days I just feel like we instead of our fine Troops being in the Middle East fighting for our Freedoms. That maybe just maybe we should unleash our own Troops in just the ole US of A against ALL Bigots. Then just maybe we would have peace in the ole United States of America.

(((( ElectraGlide and Wife and Maine Coon Cat ))))

((((( Voting Straight and Tall for Gay Rights )))))

You Kow the Biggest ((( CROSS ))) that I have ever seen was

traveling this ole USA on an iron horse. It was in the

Panhandle of the Great State of Texas or

the Great Plains of Oklahoma

IT was as big as Big as our Majestic Pine Trees

Stuck in the Ground

That just seem to say

Look at (((ME)))for (((ALL to SEE)))

I always wondered what Spirit of God that Church believed in.

I wonder if Walker Texas Ranger put it there

That is what my wife keeps trying to tell me

Of course she just wants to go back and see if she can

Find ole Walker Texas Ranger for a replacement for me

And that is Da FACT of THAT

((((((((((((( :~ )))))))))))) No on # 1

ElectraGlide, you should pass through Effingham, Illinois sometime. There's a huge (HUGE) cross next to the highway. Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind crosses as a general thing, but this sucker is beyond tacky. It looks like a huge metal shed.

Hey hakon~~~~Well I will put that down in my book of thousands of places to see. Just starting to work my way into Canada. Had great trip doing the Gaspe and back thru Quebec City to Maine. Just flat out beatiful.

That cross that I saw was magestic tall and white and that was all your could see for miles and miles.

God Speed haakon

Seems to be a very nice day for a change

don`t cha think (((((((( ( :~o ) )))))))))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCzguG4tPU&feature=related

hey hakon~~~~just heard someone say he had just saw his 1st Chrismas Tree while shopping today.

Do you hear what I hear all the time this time of year.

OMG it isn`t even ThanksGiving yet and all we see is Christmas Stuff. OMG back in the day it was only maybe 2 or 3 wks before we saw al dat stuff.

Now I like ThanksGiving oh so much, except for that unloosening of the belt thang.

Nice scenery around Thanks Giving and lov the fall.

But when it comes to flat out scenery night and day how can you beat Christmas. Just how can you.

If it starts before it used to maybe we are just so dang busy we need a longer shopping season.

((((( Or We Dang Sure Just Lov It. )))))

(((((((( Negative Attitudes will try to Suck You in if You let Them.))))))))

((((forSomethangtoday))))~~~~and I was in such a great mood going to a Holloween Party.

Trying to get ready for that, don`t cha know.

So forSomethangtoday.

(((((I jus do not have time for your bigoted chit.)))))

Here is a Christmas Nut for You

Now do not eat that now that would be sinfull, don`t cha know it.

((((((For it is a gift for Christmas.)))))(((((( :~O ))))))))))))

(((((Wonder if he even puts up a Christmas Tree)))))

"Let He who is without sin cast the first stone."

We have an awful lot of sin-less Christians running around here. Cuz there sure are a lot of stones being thrown.

But hey, you only have to follow the writings of The Bible that you believe in, not all of them.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged." ooops, don't have to follow that one, either. Acting like that won't help "the cause."

Yup, The bible is the final word on all that is moral and all that isn't, and everyone should follow all the writings of The Bible at all times. Except that icky stuff in Leviticus. We can skip that.

But The bible says homosexuality is wrong, so I'm gonna beat my neighbors over the head with the bible until they "choose" to agree with me. Because if they don't, they'll end up in the great Lake of Fire, forever and ever. Unless, of course, they end up in Purgatory. I'm still trying to work out Purgatory.

Act like a true Christian, and love thy brother, and judge him not.

Vote No on 1.

I'm voting for seperation of church and hate. Vote no on 1.

(((( Hey Bigots ))))~~~~~Them (( States ))will be looking at (( Maine )) and sayin

(((( Wish We Had done the Right Thing ))))

And the rest of the (( Country )) will follow Maine as They usually do it

(((( First and Right.))))

((( Electra Standing Tall and Wife And Kitty. Voting NO )))

((( Didn`t think I would go ((( W / O ))) A parting shoot in Your Face Again )))

((((Come on Can`t we ALL just go party. Party ON))))

((((((((((Eat Some Candy and enjoy Live Liberty and dat is dat for now)))))))))))))

(((((((((((( ( :~ o ) )))))))))))))

crazyfingers - Sin is a "ludicrous religious concept?" That explains all I need to know about you. We have no common ground to debate. I win, you lose. Talk to me when Yes on 1 wins!

Seacoast

so you don't believe in the word "sin"

O.K.

do you believe there is good and evil in this world?

(°¿°)

"On 10/31/09 at 8:07 PM, YES_ON_1 wrote: Seacoast so you don't believe in the word "sin" O.K. do you believe there is good and evil in this world?"

"Evil" is another one of those biblical-type words that's not in my lexicon. Kindness, decency, charity and understanding are traits that, for me, measure the "good" in a person.

"Understanding" seems to be the key that's missing on the "yes" side regarding Question 1. Demonizing a minority, as you do to gays, will not win hearts and minds.

The "yes" side has shown itself to mean and self-righteous. And that's a pretty far cry from kindness and decency.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

seacoast your so......new age, tres chic, but nonsensical!

VOTE YES to stop this immorality.

Meridell wrote: " I'm voting for seperation of church and hate. Vote no on 1."

Excellent point.

forHIMtoday wrote: "VOTE YES to stop this immorality"

Stop your own immorality of trying to impose your religious views onto others and harming others who do no harm to anyone.

Do the morally right thing and Vote No on 1

We've seen this same, 200 comment thread for a month now.

Yawn.......

hey cap~~~don`t see it like that at all ((You)) have had your butt handed to u on a platter for a week

(((((ATTN~~~Pharmacy Alert~~Standby for major message~~Pharmacy Alert)))))

((((((((( ORDER EXTRA PAXEL & SEROQUEL FOR BIGOTS FOR NOV 4TH )))))))

(((((((((((( HAVE AMBULANCES STANDY BY ALL PHARMACY OUTLETS))))))))

((((((((((((( GOD SPEED Electra and Wife and Kitty NO on # 1 )))))))))))))))

"On 10/31/09 at 9:04 PM, forHIMtoday wrote: seacoast your so......new age, tres chic, but nonsensical! VOTE YES to stop this immorality."

My goodness, forhim, I'm really none of the above...except maybe nonsensical to you, because you refuse to try to understand gay people. Hence, your use of the word "immorality".

Please vote "NO" on 1.

Seacoast

I don't think you are being kind and decent to my family or my children by introducing homosexual activities into their lives.

I don't think you're being very understanding, disregarding my feelings about homosexuality.

So there you go. I"m glad you can understand where I'm coming from.

yeson1...Once you walk out into public, you're going to encounter a lot of things you may not agree with. That does not entitle you to trample on the rights of minorities.

If you're having a problem dealing with your family seeing gay people, then you have parenting issues. We exist, whether you like it or not. And we're not about to go anywhere. Even if we lose on Tuesday, we'll still be walking around, holding hands and being human.

Unlike christians, we don't try to get you to join our "club". All we're asking is that you stop interferring with our achieving equal legal status with straight people.

I'm all for minding my own business. Can you do the same?

Please vote "NO" on 1.

Imagine the kids doing research on their family tree years from now? Man it's going to be confusing for them

Well my parents were gay...

Well who were your mothers parents?

Well...I'm sure which one was my mother.

Well...who was your father?

ugh....I'm not sure which one. They both had the same parts.

seriously....my kids have all done the famlly tree and they really enjoyed doing it and they had to it... it was part of the school curiccullum. How are parents, kids, and teachers supposed to deal with a situation like that? Do you know how important that is to these kids when growing up to know who their families are? You are really wanting to destroy what many see as traditional family to suit your own needs. Above all else I find it very selfish. It isn't all about you.

EJParsons mocked "Every species of mammals practices homosexual behavior” by writing "Not. In fact, those that study animals have to look really close to find anything that remotely resembles homosexual behavior, and 99% of what they find is debunked through common logic. The other 1% is twisted illogically in order to support the gay animal argument. Regardless, humans have thought processes and the ability to decide right and wrong, unlike animals, so why would anyone want to justify thier lifestyle choices by using animals?”

I have a life not a lifestyle, just like you do. Your sexual behavior is no different from other mammals and neither is mine. It is sheer hubris on your part to think you are morally superior to people like me. We are not that different, you and I, despite our vastly different ideas of how the world works.

Animal cases of homosexuality are well documented, despite your dismissal of the evidence. See http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html . One of our closes DNA relatives in the animal kingdom are the Bonobos or Pigmy Chimpanzees (scientific name Pan paniscus). The nearly universal bisexuality of male and female Bonobos is well documented in zoo populations.

As for animals having no sense of right or wrong that is ridiculous. Tests have revealed animals have a strong sense of fairness and resent injustice. See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/dec/08/dogs-envy-fairness-social-behaviour . Chimpanzees share food, and more Capuchin monkeys often share food with another of their species, if the other is given less food in a bowl. They will cooperate to get rewards of food. See: http://notexactlyrocketscience.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/envious-capuchin-monkeys-react-badly-to-raw-deals/ . I remember being young when our family adopted a second stray cat, a kitten we named Zip. The first cat named Felix, resented being ignored in favor of the cute little Zip. He was morally outraged.

Animals think. Animals have morals. And we are all animals, every human on the planet is.

Homosexuals have morals (some more than others of course). My husband is more moral than I am, and is one of the most moral, honest and helpful people I know.

A few penguins here and there who act homosexual does not justify humans acting the same way. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of penguins. None of them behaved that way. As I said before, I've heard of a moose jump a mini-van..does that mean justify homesexual behavior in the human race? Actually it should do the opposite.

"On 10/31/09 at 11:29 PM, firefly wrote: ... You are really wanting to destroy what many see as traditional family to suit your own needs. "

Nobody's destroying traditional families. Why can't you understand that? Those family models will still be far and away the majority.

This is another misrepresentation that the "vote yes" side keeps throwing out there. There are gay couples now who raise children. There will continue to be, regardless of how this election goes.

Enjoy your traditional family. I wish you many years of happiness, I really do. But please understand that we'd like a seat at the marital table, too.

The kids will be just fine. They're quite clever when it comes to climbing trees...even non-traditional family ones.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

"On 10/31/09 at 11:40 PM, firefly wrote: A few penguins here and there who act homosexual does not justify humans acting the same way. "

This argument is in rebuttal to the "vote yes" side's contention that homosexuality isn't natural. We're showing that it does indeed occur in nature.

We're not just "acting" that way. Gay people are that way, in that we are attracted to persons of the same gender. I don't know why "vote yes" keeps missing this.

We choose our mates based on our sexual orientation...just like you straight people do. We've said this a gazillion times. Why doesn't it hit any memory cells in your brains?

Jeez, it's like talking to a wall sometimes...

Please vote "NO" on 1.

sorry...it still is at the expense of the children....I'll never agree

firefly wrote:

"Imagine the kids doing research on their family tree years from now? Man it's going to be confusing for them

Well my parents were gay...

Well who were your mothers parents?

Well...I'm sure which one was my mother.

Well...who was your father?

ugh....I'm not sure which one. They both had the same parts.

seriously....my kids have all done the famlly tree and they really enjoyed doing it and they had to it... it was part of the school curiccullum. How are parents, kids, and teachers supposed to deal with a situation like that? Do you know how important that is to these kids when growing up to know who their families are? You are really wanting to destroy what many see as traditional family to suit your own needs. Above all else I find it very selfish. It isn't all about you."

This is exactly why people should Vote NO on ONE.

You have the same contempt for adopted children that you do for same-sex couples.

Shame on you. I pity your children, to have such an ignorant and cruel parent is truly a huge deficit.

"On 11/1/09 at 12:12 AM, firefly wrote: sorry...it still is at the expense of the children....I'll never agree"

The expense of the children? Let's see that tab:

As long as the "vote yes" side's mentality continues, some straight kids will feel more empowered to belittle gay kids. This societal poison grows from name-calling to beatings and worse. These creatures get their validation from people like those supporting this repeal.

And here's another "expense": gay kids trying to come to terms with who they are, while a school counselor...the very person kids hope to turn to for sound advice...sides with a group that stops at nothing to paint gay people as less than equal. I hope they take away his credentials.

Gay kids who want, no, NEED to find themselves often end up self-loathing and suicidal because they are made to feel that being gay is somehow bad. That they can't find a place in society because the church deems them unworthy.

And the kids of gay parents. What is this whole campaign saying to them? What are YOU saying to them?

What's your biggest fear, that straight kids are going to learn that gay people exist? That's the "expense of the children" for you?

Dude, they know.

Fostering ignorance is a huge expense for a kid to pay.

Please vote "NO" on 1.

YES_ON_1 wrote:

"Seacoast I don't think you are being kind and decent to my family or my children by introducing homosexual activities into their lives. "

He hasn't done that, so stop lying.

"I don't think you're being very understanding, disregarding my feelings about homosexuality. "

He understands them perfectly, everyone here who has been subjected to your hundreds of posts over the last two days couldn't help but fully understand. You have made it very clear. He disagrees with you. A lot of people do. Deal with it.

"So there you go. I"m glad you can understand where I'm coming from."

Make up your mind. Ugh. Forget it, you are an idiot.

mAineAc wrote:

"Josep66, I am not a 'yes folk', "

Oh, BS, anyone that's seen your past posts in these comments sections knows THAT'S an outright lie.

"but I don't think that is the job of the education system. Math, English, political science, science, architecture, those are school studies. Social interactions need to be taught at home."

That is the STUPIDEST thing I have seen here ALL DAY, and that says quite a bit. Kids LEARN "social interactions" AT school. To deny THAT is a level of delusion that is difficult to even address, it's so laughable.

"Once someone is in college if they want to have studies beyond that, it is fine. Sex as it is used in reproduction is fine in relation to the sciences. "

You jump from "social interaction" to "sex" - they are NOT the same thing. Are you really so ignorant ? Are you in the 4rth grade ?

"Beyond that social agendas of any type do not belong in schools. There is too much time already wasted on studies that have nothing to do with learning."

How would you know this, the way you write makes me wonder if you completed middle school.

Please VOTE NO on Question 1 ~ And don't take arguments from stupid people seriously.

neocon wrote:

"are you all trying to justify homosexuality because animals do it? are you serious? many animals eat their young, eat their own feces, and other deplorable things, does that means humans should too? what a joke!"

If you can not follow a discussion than maybe you should stay out of it, otherwise people look at what you write and think "OMG, what a freakin' moron"

The issue is weather or not same-sex orientation is "natural" or not. Some of your idiot fraud YES on ONE brethren have stated, repeatedly, that no, animals do NOT EVER have same-sex orientation; that it does NOT exist in nature. There was even a dirtbag "Registered Maine Guide" here the other day stating authoritatively that animals do not ever have same-sex orientation.

All very amusing because it's not true, people that actually DO study animals and animal behavior have noted for decades that same-sex orientation does inf act exist in nature with a consistency and frequency that is greater than mere randomness. Therefore, in case you lack the intelligence to understand this, let me point it out - THEREFORE same-sex orientation is a natural variation.

Do you understand now ? Now feel free to make more of a fool of yourself by saying something even more ignorant than you usually do.

Really, I have to thank you YES on ONE regulars that post here, without exception you have proven yourselves to be profound assets tot he NO on ONE campaign. It is are that so many ignorant and biased people with true malignancy in their hearts and cat crap in their minds congregate in the same place.

Thank you, Maine, for Voting NO on Question 1 and securing your heritage as the Pragmatic, Kind, and Intelligent state I know you to be. Despite the natural variations represented in our citizenry that is steeped in intellectual laziness, superstition and bigotry.

Humans are of higher intelligence than animals. We are spiritual beings. Animals do not have the capacity to love.

Homosexuals should not hang their hat's on the study of baboons and bonobos to make their point that their actions are natural.

I would want to be as far away from that comparison as possible if I were them.

I guess they don't know just how foolish it sounds.

Daylight savings time just went into effect.

My posts are being inserted back an hour.

That's odd.

I'm sure the gay marriage supporters don't think so !!!

LOL

J. Grant Swank

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Hate Crimes Don't Come Down on Real Christians

By J Grant Swank Jr.

Oct 31, 2009 - 12:40:11 AM

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Real biblical Christians don't hate.

That the Barack Hussein Obama administration does not get. That is because Obama is not a Christian.

He may belong to a Protestant denomination, but that group is anti-God theologically liberal.

He may claim to be "Christian" but by one's fruits he is known. Obama's fruits are not biblically lush.

Therefore, when Obama signs the "Hate Crimes" bill, he sides in with those who simply don't understand the mission of Christians.

Christians are taught by Christ to love friends and also enemies. Christians who are true to the commission pray for those who disagree with them; they don't taunt or murder them. They pray for them, care for them.

Therefore, when Christians in and out of the pulpit preach from the Bible concerning sexuality, they delineate God's revelation, not their own opinions. In doing so, they give forth God's definition of sex in marriage. It is sex between male and female.

Why this specification?

Because God has created the sex gift. He thereby provides guidelines by which to keep that gift free from disease.

When Obama signs the present bill, he does not support that disease-free perspective of the divine. Instead, he counters it by supporting that lifestyle which encourages AIDS/HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.

Is that what the President of the United States should do? Is that what America should endorse? Hardly.

However, real Christians understand play-acting such as is evidence by the Oval Office occupant. Real believers are not naïve to those appearing as biblical disciples while not living the life. That is par for the wise course.

Therefore, biblical advocates continue to exhort the biblical message regarding sexuality. They will continue for their arch leader is no mortal. They follow the God of the universe and His purpose for their existence.

Biblical Christians will then keep on keeping on with the healthy gospel message related to sex and its part played out in the disciples' lives. That in itself will give forth the healthy hope to each generation.

It is sad that the opposition does not get the positive, uplifting directives of biblical preachers and teachers.

However, though they may not get it, commissioned spokespersons remain loyal to God and His Word, understanding that God Himself gives to each mortal free will to reject or receive the divine message.

I hate to see the yes side so verbally bash and abuse gays. How horrendous it is to tell another human being that they are immoral and unequal to heterosexuals. It is absolutely despicable! You know NOTHING about what being gay is, what moral and loving is.. My husband and I are hetero sexual and know wholeheartedly that we are equal to gays. Ashamedly, we are also equal to the gay bashing yes folks, because they are human too... Ugh!

By the way, TOLERANCE to others will be taught in school.. What did you think would be taught, a porn movie, a naked native dance, an orgy? THINK! Just for once put yourselves in a gay persons place, do it! It'll come to you eventually that we are all here just trying to live a life that's good in some way. We just want someone to share life with, to be happy and free.. to dance the night away, to love and be loved. Is that so hard to understand, we ALL share that.

Think about it before it's too late for you. Gays are the same as you and me, we are all here together.

Be nice, respectful, fair, tolerant, understanding, knowledgeable about things you don't know, and most of all - LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Little children know these things, you can too.

You can talk all you want about your personal righteousness, you can stand behind the bible and you can shout from the mountain top but you're still wrong.. We are all one, it's such a simple concept and yet so hard for you to understand.

karenlite

homosexuals are self serving.

they are projecting their lifestyle onto society at the expense of others.

that's where the buck stops.

we'll be voting this nonsenical law down come Tuesday.

Mark my words.

karenlite

how clouded your view of morals is.

are you a Christian?

you can't claim to be a Christian and support gay marriage.

Christ would not approve.

I can see there's a time difference in the posting, ---_ON_ONE, you posted 1:59am to AionCA before I posted.

You're still wrong. ; )

It's YES_ON_1.

That's how you spell it.

You are making a mockery of marriage.

It's you that is 100% wrong.

Read your bible.

I never claimed to be a Christian, I consider anyone who is good moral.

AIONCA

Perpetuating sin onto children and families purposely is not cool.

We know the difference between right and wrong, moral and immoral.

That's why we're still going to vote you down in a couple of days.

Because we know better.

So stop babbling and take your medicine like a good little creton.

I don't know if you're writing a comeback and I really don't care. Someday you'll get it, if you don't for some reason then I feel sorry for you, you will have lived a life in darkness, not knowing the love of others you could have had.

(((hey wrong on 1)))~~((you ever here of ONE LOVE dat be God telling u ONE LOVE))

((((Ya know on the Wings of a Snow White Dove)))

Who teach u I said not luv (( ALL )) some (( Bigoted Priest ))

You know one of (( Dem Priest )) that wasn` geeetin Any

Now be very carefull here

Do not ask what not gettin (( ANY )) means

(((Please God Please Don`t make dem Ask)))

(((hey dung on 1)))

You need a ((( Apeacure ))), dang them nails are dragging on my new floor

come here and we will trim them dang nails right up to your ((( armpits )))

If we can stand the (( smell )))

YES_ON_1 wrote:

"AIONCA

Perpetuating sin onto children and families purposely is not cool.

We know the difference between right and wrong, moral and immoral.

That's why we're still going to vote you down in a couple of days.

Because we know better.

So stop babbling and take your medicine like a good little creton"

What you have to say on this matter is insignificant, as you are merely a political entity.

The lies you've already told in these comments sections, your agenda, your bigotry, are all there for anyone to see.

So, no, I don't consider your opinion to be an honest one from an honest person; you are a non-entity.

Nobody is teaching "sin" to children by permitting my church, and other churches, to exercise their right to religious freedom as guaranteed under the United States Constitution. That you repeat this lie only proves the degree of depravity that you and your ilk will stoop to in order to impose your extremist religious agenda on other churches, religions, individuals, and their families.

So save your lies for people who are too gullible to think for themselves, and people that find you credible.

You obviously don't know the difference between right and wrong. You think it's right of you to use multiple handles and deception and lies to forward your agenda ? You think it's right for you to continually lie and claim that marriage of same-sex couples equates harming children and families ?

You really think it is right to elevate the "sin" of homosexuality above the sins of your pride, your lies, and your arrogance ?

What do you know better ? It seems to me that you are judging the love people have for one another as being somehow "sin".

This I find to be a malignancy and a sick and evil ideal, from people who have contempt, hate, and wickedness in their hearts.

I have yet to see any rational argument from any YES on Question 1 people why same-sex marraige is such a huge threat to them, and their children, much less their marriages.

MY marriage to MY wife is not threatened int eh least by same-sex couples wedding. Why is it that you have to lie and claim that yours is ? Are you even married ? Do you even HAVE children ? Oh, I forgot - you aren't a real person, you are just a political slogan, a non-entity.

Please Vote No on Question 1 ~ Because the day Maine deems love is equal to sin is going to be a very cold day, indeed.

(((((You know what one ((( Bigot ))) said to the other ((( Bigot )))

(((( Nothin ))))

Dey got ((( NOTHING ))) to say

Except that ((( DAAAAANG ))) slippery Slope thaang.

Dang I finally figured out what the slippery slope thang is

standby ((((( dinkle a ling ~ dindle a ling )))))

Bigots (((( LOOKING DOWN THERE NOSES AT EACH OTHER))))

Have you just ever been to a ((( BIGOT COVENTION )))

You know at a ((( UMO ))) game when ((( ALL STOMP))) on the stadium bleachers

Well at a ((( BIGOT CONVENTION ))) all you hear is.

((I AM BETTER THAN YOU)) (( I AM BETTER THAN YOU)) ((I AM BETTER THEN YOU))

Then they ))(( ALL ))(( sit down for lunch and they say was that (((( US ))))

ONWARDS BIGOT SOLDIERS OMG OMG OMG

(((oH YEAH))) ~~(((((( ITS SUNDAY time for another BIGOT COMVENTION ))))))

(((NOW))) lets make this (((CLEAR for ALL to HEAR)))

(((( ALL CHRISTIANS are NOT BIGOTS ))))

(((((WELL THAT IS IF YOU BELIEVE THEM)))))

((((( YOU EVER SEE A GAY HUMPTY DUMPTY FALL OF A WALL )))))

((((((((( ONTO A BIGOT ))))))))))

((((((((((( IT IS CALLED BIGOT BASHING )))))))))))))))

((((((( SOS to BIGOTS ))))) time to go to ((((( CHURCH )))))

((((( THE PRIEST IS ABOUT TO PU PU HIS PANTS )))))

(((( IT IS CALLED A BIGOT PU PU PLATTER ))))

((((( BE PLENTY TO GO AROUND TODAY )))))

now ((( ELECTRA))) you be ((( GOOD )))

(((YOU ))) know ((( ELECTRA ))) you were an ((( ALTER BOY )))

(((( YES FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED ))))

But ((( FATHER ))) you know most of the time I had (((COTTON BATTON ))) IN

((((( SO I DID NOT HEAR THE REAL SINS ))))

Ding a Ling~~~~Ding a Ling (((((( : o ) ))))))

((( Electra Trying to Be Good and Voting NO on # 1 ))) ((( I SWEAR TO GOD I AM )))

BROUGHT TO YOU ALL

BY THE

SPIRIT OF ALL GODS

GOD BLESS

OTTA HERE ((((( :~o )))))))))

What was the Cherokee Trail of Tears? Google it if you feel the need for more Pain. I`m Angry Today and Shamed.

Trail of Tears was the Cherokee name for what the Americans called Indian Removal. During the 1800's, the US government created an "Indian Territory" in Oklahoma and sent all the eastern Native American tribes to live there. Some tribes willingly agreed to this plan. Other tribes didn't want to go, and the American army forced them. The Cherokee tribe was one of the largest eastern tribes, and they didn't want to leave their homeland. The Cherokees were peaceful allies of the Americans, so they asked the Supreme Court for help. The judges decided the Cherokee Indians could stay in their homes. But the President, Andrew Jackson, sent the army to march the Cherokees to Oklahoma anyway. They weren't prepared for the journey, and it was winter time. Thousands of Cherokee Indians died on the Trail of Tears. Many Native Americans from other tribes died too. It was a terrible time in history

Just another part of our Shamefull History. Led by none other then Religious People of the times. Whenever our Christain Peoples have wanted something or hated something or some peoples. The Christians have not acted Christianly for along long time. We have been in Wars where we thought someone was taking our freedoms.

But examples of what we did to Indians and Blacks had nothing to do with protecting our freedoms. To me it was ALL about Bigotry and what Christians were going to do about using any Peoples however they wanted to.

The Germans did the samething with the Jews that they were bigoted about.

Just Shamefull nothing but Shamefull.

Sunday might just be a good day to talk about that shame that is all of our past History.

And How we can take a different direction by STANDING TALL and saying on NOV 3rd. We HAD ENOUGH of listening to BIGOTS.

If just one person on here today can show me how this was right and how the same process is not going on today. Well you my person have one heck of a difference in what I think is the Spirit of God and whatever the Christ you think.

((( ElectraGlide and Hetro Family Voting NO on #1)))

(((And will be danggg ashamed of Maine)))

((( If Maine doesn`t Vote NO on # 1 by a Landslide )))

Sorry I Just Cannot Believe any other way is RIGHT !!!!!!!

Go Ahead Christian Bigots Just show me how this is not Evil.

Just tells US ALL how oh Gays are alright but we just do not want them to use the word Marriage.

Oh we care about Gays but WHAT!!!!!!!!

Gays are OK but WHAT.

I have to believe as HISTORY has shown us ALL you are LYING BIGOTS!!!

That in the Darkness of your Bigoted Minds you would just as soon have the Gays Trail of Tears and sit back and say.

I guess we showed them What God is All About.

((((( Just TRY and SHOW US ALL today of ALL days )))))

Voting NO on # 1 and it Should of NOT have needed to be DONE.

You Christians have Tried to Take A Human Right Law away from a People.

And You Are Going To Have To Live With That For The Rest Of Your Lives With It.

God Bless Us One and All

ElectraGlide - most atrocities in history have occurred because of the absence of religious principle, just like this atrocity of gay marriage - absence of religious principle. Are you starting to get it? Standing on principle doesn't mean we hate gays, we just think their BEHAVIOR is immoral. In fact, Christians are taught to love the murderer, the robber, the immoral, but to detest the ACTION! Just out of curiosity, I have a hunch you are in favor of the marijuana law? Right or wrong? That makes people feel good too!

AionCA - you are trying to justify human behavior based on animal behavior - are you serious? You can really believe that this helps your argument? You my friend, are the MORON! Go back to California with all the other San Fran freaks!

Hey Thug~~Most humans have a role model / idol

Lets get to know each other better and talk about our idols

come come a very simple game

we both know where u / I stand on dem gays

Electraglide 6:29 do you know of the indian and french history of Quebec? The Hurons and the Iroquois? How the English put Catholics in a church and burned the church down? How the put they remaining people on boats and set them out in the middle of winter. No food and just dropped them off the east coast. How the french lived with the indians to teach them about Jesus and lived peacefully and traded with them. How the English carried tin cans of pieces of fabric contaminated with small pox across Canada hoping to wipe out whole indian tribes so they could control the trade? Did you know that? Every country, every nationality is guilty of crimes. Every religion, every person is guilty of something.

We want to protect our children and families and families...that is all we want to do. You....just don't get it. It has nothing to do with bigotry....absolutely nothing...

read Chicky's post....10/31 5:54 A.M. That is no surprise to me at all....Thanks for posting that.

Vote Yes on one.....

AionCA @ 12:59, I have already stated that I am voting no on 1. I ask questions because I am interested in what other people think and I would like to educate myself on how people, that have different values or beliefs than I do, think. I Think that schools have gone way too far with what their job is. When they try to make it that a 12 year old can go to school and ask for birth control or an abortion and they do not have to notify teh parents. that is too far. When school councilors tell a 16 year old that they do not have to obey household rules and that they can just move out, then the schools have gone too far. Our education system in this country has gone to hell. Children with failing grades are being pushed through so there is 'No Child is Left Behind.' They are skipping the important stuff to 'teach' things that are supposed to be taught by parents rather than the stuff they need to succeed.

((( No firefly)))~~~~ it is you that don`t get enough of blood pouring into your brain

Do you agree with what happened to the (((( American Cherokee )))) or not ???

Stuff all over the world can be labeled as Biogotry

are you ready for your ((( label ))) or do you want to learn something or / not ????

For all of you people who say there is no God , or you don't think any of His commandments have anything to do with us these days, I've got some news for you. God has authority over the whole Earth and all the people on it---whether you like it or not. He's given us free will to do as we please, but in the end you will be judged . Sins are forgiven so long as the person stops commiting the sin, and condoning a sin is the same as commiting it yourself. Vote--YES on 1 .

Dang~~~mAineAc~~~I`ll stand right with you on DAT right on !!!

eastmainer~~~glad you are so sure what the Spirit of God really means

I think with you Vote of Yes you are the One in for heck of a Surpise at them Gates of Heaven.

Yep I and many many others Do~~So just stay with your Stuff~~No skin off my nose !!

You are about to learn a lesson on NOv 3rd on how many people think your wrong

Yu know ALL the Devil Non Believers

Just like the Muslims are going to get a Message

Should be able to take a little Nap Soon

Bigot Classes Are about to Start

For the ones to hung over to make early Bigot Class

Of course I don't agree with what happened to the Cherokee indians....I'm part indian....you can't equate that to this issue. This has nothing to do with bigotry. What is so hard for you to see this issue will be taught iin schools. The life style is immoral and our young kids should not be exposed to this issue what so ever. We're on a different page...you can't see and you don't want to see because you don't want to walk away from the lifestyle.

firefly~~your worry of being taught in school is just an example of the tactics that are used everyday in the world to put people down and stomped on them.

Sorry won`t give up been studing History to Long.

Don`t kown it ((( ALL ))) but I sure do know ((( ALOT ))).

firefly~~~~what nation are u from ???

Ya, Firefly~~sorry I missed your point, I`m a Alfa Male Married to a Alfa Female.

Please for your own safety don`t safety.

Don`t say that in front of the Maine Coon Cat. (((:~o )))

Algonquin...could also be some huron. First settlers of Quebec from France.

ya firefly~~~don`t have time to go all over different stuff.

All we ask is you think about changing your vote and go for Equality.

I`m part Indian Too, what did you say yu were.

Gays the Scratching Post of American Society right now.

Who wants to be next????

neocon wrote: " crazyfingers - Sin is a "ludicrous religious concept?"

neocon, you neglected to add the rest of the sentence. which read ""that in many ways is divorced from what is actually right or wrong." There is nothing to suggest that gay marriage is morally wrong and yet many think that the bible says that it's a sin and so call it immoral. That's mindless religious lunacy. Blind acceptance of what the bible says against rationality. Lunacy.

Want some other examples of what the bible says are sins?

**Working on Sundays** (Thou shalt kill anyone who works on Sunday. (Exodus 35:2))

Do you want to kill people who work on sundays?

***Women in authority*** (Women shalt not teach, nor hold authority positions over men. (1 Timothy 2:11-15)

***Crippled people, dwarves, those with flat noses or damaged testicles must stay away from the altar.*** (Leviticus 21:18-20)

***Thou shalt not boil a kid in its mother’s milk!*** (Exodus 23:19)

***Thou shalt not wear clothes of mixed fibers.*** (Leviticus 19:19)

***A woman’s period is disgusting and unclean and anyone who comes near her is guilty of sin.***

***Thou shalt not be disrespectful to thy parents, lest ye be killed.*** (Leviticus 20:9)

Did you have kids neocon? All kids are disobedient at times. Have you killed them yet?

***Thou shalt not eat pork, shrimp, lobster, or any shellfish. (Leviticus 11:7-12)***

When are you going to shut down Maine's lobster and shellfish industry neocon?

It's a sin to refuse to be baptized. Lk 7:29,30

JUDGING GOD’S SERVANTS Ro 14:4,10

OFFENDING A CHILD OF GOD Mk 9:42

REFUSING TO HEAR GOD’S SERVANTS 1 Jn 4:6

WEARING THE CLOTHING OF THE OPPOSITE SEX Deut 22:5

LOVE FANCY CLOTHING TO SHOW OFF-TO BE ADMIRED BY MEN Mk 12:38

WOMEN-BEAUTY THAT COMES FROM WEARING GOLD JEWELRY 1 Pe 3:3

WOMEN-THAT ADORN THEMSELVES WITH GOLD, PEARLS, COSTLY ARRAY 1 Tim 2:9

SPEAKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE’S EVIL Eph 5:11,12

FOOLISH CONVERSATION Eph 5:4

BIDDING GOD SPEED TO CHRIST REJECTING PEOPLE 2 Jn 11

NOT BEING MEEK AND QUIET 1 Pe 3:4

PROUD SPEECH Ps 17:10

SEEKING COUNSEL THAT IS NOT OF GOD Isa 30:1

WALKING IN COUNSEL OF UNSAVED Ps 1:1

COVETOUSNESS-AN INSATIABLE DESIRE FOR WORLDLY GAIN Hab 2:9 (When will you outlaw the capitalism neocon??)

CURSING THE RICH Ecc 10:20 (Nice contradiction there!! What a usless guide the bible is to morality)

DESPISING GOVERNMENT 2 Pe 2:10

BEING DISCONTENT Phili 4:11; 1 Tim 6:8; Lk 3:14

EATING THINGS STRANGLED Acts 15:20

BELIEVING IN EVOLUTION Ps 100:3

WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN Ro 14:23

FASTING UNTO GOD, BUT NOT SECRETLY (TO BE SEEN BY MEN) Mt 6:16-18; Acts 14:23

FEAR (BEING AFRAID) BEING FEARFUL Gal 2:12-14; 1 Jn 4:18; Rev 21:8

NOT FEARING YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER Lev 19:3

FORTUNE-TELLING Acts 16:16-18 NIV; Deut 18:10,11

NOT BLESSING THEM THAT CURSE YOU Mt 5:44

MAKING A GRAVEN IMAGE Ex 20:4; 32:8,21; Acts 15:20

JUDGING OTHERS (JUDGING BROTHERS IN CHRIST) Mt 7:1-5; Ro 2:1;Ja 4:11,12

LOVING THE WORLD 1 Jn 2:15

LOVING YOUR OWN LIFE Jn 12:25

LOVING YOUR OWN SELF 2 Tim 3:2

ABSTAINING FROM EATING MEAT 1 Tim 4:1-4

STUDYING THE OCCULT Deut 18:9-14; Lev 20:6; Isa 8:19, Isa 47:13,14

GETTING ENTANGLED WITH THE AFFAIRS OF THIS LIFE 2 Tim 2:4

BEING WORRIED Phili 4:6; Mt 6:25

That explains all I need to know about you. We have no common ground to debate. I win, you lose. Talk to me when Yes on 1 wins!

Forgot to delete the last several lines that neocon wrote after the list of nonsense sins. Vote NO on 1

Dang crazyfingers~~~~I didn`t know all that. Must brain is just busting w / new stuff.

Is this tolerance?

http://www.asmainegoes.com/

mainesstreet~~~what are you asking for

If you feel the other teacher should be sued. Go for it.

Standing up for abuse of children, which I think bigotry is

Try that thought process at EMMC and see how long you have a job.

Maybe there was a better way to do it

but if I was in NP school, I would of thought the teacher that pointed out the

abuse of kids.

World of been one of my favority teachers.

Isn`t that what we want ( positive role models) ????

Voting NO on #1 and proudly so. Hope you would to. Stand up for ALL our Freedoms

Not just the ones you think are right.

neocon, your bible sure is a useful guide to moral behavior.

"Churches in Nigeria denounce children as witches

EKET, Nigeria - The 9-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall. His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him - Mount Zion Lighthouse.

A month later, he died.

Nwanaokwo Edet was one of an increasing number of children in Africa accused of witchcraft by pastors and then tortured or killed, often by family members. Pastors were involved in half of 200 cases of “witch children’’ reviewed by the Associated Press, and 13 churches were named in the case files. Some of the churches involved are renegade local branches of international franchises. Their parishioners take literally the biblical exhortation, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.’’

...

The idea of witchcraft is hardly new, but it has taken on new life recently partly because of a rapid growth in evangelical Christianity. Campaigners against the practice say about 15,000 children have been accused in two of Nigeria’s 36 states over the past decade and 1,000 have been murdered. In the past month alone, three Nigerian children accused of witchcraft were killed and another three were set on fire."

http://www.boston.com/news/world/africa/articles/2009/11/01/churches_in_nigeria_denounce_children_as_witches/

firefly why do you continue to lie? Maine does not teach marriage in the school system. Are you that afraid of the gay community that your have to lie to scare people?

Marriage is NOT taught in Maine public schools. It NEVER has been and this law does NOT change that.

Shame on you and the other Yes on 1 that continue to spread lies. The whole Yes on 1 campaign has been one gigantic lie from the start and when it has been debunked, rather than stand up and accept responsibility they just continue to lie and twist the truth to fit their needs.

Already voted No on 1

At least poster like firefly are honest with there rasist attitude and there is no adjusting it.

w / o alot of de-programming

But those that can`t see the true Spirit of God or Spirit of Man

When it is drove down there throats

Just make me want to puck on dem

Again and Again

And that would be my de-programming for DEM BIGOTS

CHRISTIAN THANGS

No Need To Highlight on This I`m sure I hit a Nerve.

But they are to embarrased to admit it.

I see the old B word is popular today..

Must be the buzz word of the day.

I am part indian...you would be surprised to know my family history. You need prayers...which is what I will do. God bless you

no JD, you are clearly the phony, I knew it nearly a year ago. You have sold your soul to a perversion.

I asked you what part that you are enogh said say it or shut up

You tell me I tell you.

If you were p Indian you would support Equal rights

In fact you would be camping out overnite to be

First in line

Was I addressing you forHIMtoday????????????

I believe my post was addressed to firefly.

But if you would like to address my statements rather that attack me personally then fine.

But I doubt you will as you love to attack people instead. Should have listened to those that told me about you.

Electric...JD...see post 9:06...enough said...Algonoquin...maybe Huron. Church records destroyed in fire.

forHIM, I'll be wonderful to watch the people of Maine put you in your place. You're crazier than a S.H.R.

JD, I could care less if you were addressing me or not, And I will address you as I see fit. You have making a fool of yourself yet again.

What does one get for selling their sould these days? Is it adjusted for inflation, and the bad economy?

er, soul... darned fingers!

On 10/30/09 at 8:17 PM, forHIMtoday wrote:

I am voting yes on one. If gays and lesbians want what they consider to be the same rights as a married man and women let them work on changing the laws that they think are denying them those rights. There is absolutely no reason to change the institute of marriage as its always been for thousands of years. As a Christian I am against homosexual marriage for obvious reasons, my God is against it. I firmly believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ and that He is the only way. That being said, I also believe in the freedom to chose ones faith and would defend that right for everyone. This law goes way beyond people marrying outside their faith, this is a complete redefinition of marriage to appease a small minority that are indulging in a immoral lifestyle. This has gotten completely out of hand. People are being called bigoted, hateful, narrow minded, threatened with losing their jobs, books being banned, pastors being arrested, businesses being sued, all because some dare to speak out against this immorality. Its time for us to make a stand next week and send a clear message that Maine along with the 30 other states that have been fortunate enough to be able to vote on this to say YES, we want marriage to be one man and one women only. You can work on changing the laws, but leave marriage alone. I for one will not be intimidated.

PROUDLY VOTING YES ON ONE

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I stand with you forHIMtoday...0-31 on tuesday...VOTE YES ON ONE!!!!!

No special rights for double standard christians. No on One!

Trail of Tears article at 6:29 am I

In case you just blow off my articles like alot do

I want to ask those that say to you vote yes on 1 People to reread it.

The article says the Cherrokee lived in peace with ole (( whitey )) ((Blue Eyes)) and had houses and were trying to fit in. And the Supreme court said let the Cherrokee live in Peace. A President said frig it and did what he wanted to. Don`t know what the Pres ajenda was. But anyway them dang Indians got moved the heck out of the way of something. Of Course there was just a little room left at the time for ole Whitey. You know lke everything west of the Smokey Mountains to California.

The Same Bigotry was displayed againts our American Women and ALL the Blacks

Then we have been told that the tribes started problems. Well do you suppose the Cherrokee said anything to the Great Tribes of the Plains. Sioux, Appache are just a couple. I wonder what the Cherokee said to the plains tribes.

I don`t think it was don`t worry be happy. For ole Whitey will take care of You. Yep that was sure the case.

At least after WW 2 we helped Japan and Germany rebuild. Look at our American Indians. Bigotry for a couple of hundred years mite do that to you.

Don`t you think. Sure because of the War with the Indians there is some hate. But for the American Indians it is much more than some hate.

You people that vote Yes go ahead.

The least you could do is say it was a shame what we did it and what a shame. You know really say it. The freakin shame in this country.

And some of these same people will say.

Why don`t we pull our troops home and just and wait for someone to attack us.

Well folks the hatefull bigotry in this ole USA will destroy us before the Muslims ever get here.

My God , Wake Up, We are Destroying ourselves

Look at the hate gangs. Crime and destruction all around us.

Yes I still think we are the best.

Much how much better could we get.

We haven`t even begun to start on that.

Going for a ride and enjoy the day.

I think the Spirit of the God made this Day for the Believers

((((Life Liberty and the Freedoms that only Equality can bring ALL)))).

(((Hetro Electric and Electro (wife) and Kitty Voting NO on # 1)))

(((((((((Because Thank God I still Can))))))))))

((( The American Womens Vote wil be the Wild Card )))

(((( What a Shocker this is going to Be ))))

thanks HRH, there are more of us than they think.

forHIMtoday you are a sad, sad individual. When you have nothing of substance to say you revert to name calling. So Christian and adult like.

I asked a good friend and devoted Christan last night if No on 1 prevails, would it change her marriage in the least. Her answer "no".

11:41 Firefly~~~MicMac here~~~you know most of Prince Edwards Island

((( Still the Land of the bestest Choc Milk Shake )))

If you are live in the USA you should be Voting No

((( Voting NO on # 1 ))) Just try asking me why (((( MAN it BE PRIDE ))))

(((( No matter what Americans don`t give up no matter what ))))

I am fortunate to have the ability to talk to a lot of people

on a daily basis In my area, the general consensus

is Yes on one. Folks are realizing the importance of getting

out to the polls, and helping others get there as well.

Voted YES ON ONE!!!!

Can anyone outline what social disasters have happened in the following places where same sex marriage is legal?

Countries Where Gay Marriage is Legal

• Mexico (since 2006)

• Croatia (since 2003)

• Denmark (since 1989)

• Finland (since 2001)

• France (since 1999)

• Germany (since 2001/expanded rights 2004)

• Hungary (since 1996/expanded rights as of July 1, 2009)

• Iceland (since 1996)

• Sweden (as of May 1, 2009)

• Norway (since 2008)

• Netherlands/Holland (no amendments needed; language of existing laws inclusive)

• Belgium (since 2003)

• Spain (since 2005)

• South Africa (since 2006)

• Luxembourg (since 2004 with limitations)

• New Zealand (since 2004)

• Portugal (since 2001)

• Sweden (since 1995/expanded rights as of April 1, 2009)

• Switzerland (since 2005)

• United Kingdom (since 2005)

• Canada (since 2004/2005

• United States (some states)

?

US States Where Gay Marriage is Legal

• Massachusetts(as of July 2008)

• Connecticut (as of October 10, 2008)

• Iowa (as of April 3, 2009)

• District of Columbia (no gay marriages performed but will recognize the rights of same-sex couples who wed in other jurisdictions)

• Vermont (as of September 1, 2009)

• Maine (as of mid September, 2009, repeal referendum on ballot for Nov.)

• New Hampshire (to be signed pending language that respects religious beliefs of opposite-sex couples)

• New York (no gay marriages performed but will recognize the rights of same-sex couples who wed in other jurisdictions)

• New Jersey (as of February 2007)

• Oregon (as of February 4, 2008)

• Washington (as of April 15, 2009)

JD, you made a complete fool of yourself stating I had no daughter, you even had the simpleton convinced. I don't know who this "SC" is but I wish I could warn him of you. Your a complete phony JD and a hypocrite. This will all be over soon and you will still be swimming up to your neck in quagmire.

Actually, HRH, gay marriage was not voted on. The states to which you refer voted to ban it so that it can't be legislated. The supreme court will take up that issue.

12:50 PM, forHIMtoday, it's not like you to call people names.

The only one making a fool of himself is you. You think you get under peoples skins. You think you know better then anyone else. You post loooooooooong post which have nothing to do with same sex marriage and you I look foolish. LOL SC, the only one looking foolish is you.

By the way, why haven't you defended your gay brother in law when people try to make the pedophile gay "fact" link?

Freedom of religion also means freedom fom religion

2:08 PM, charlotte09, you are voting to remove a legislated civil right for a 2.5% minority. The law was in tended to improve their lives and repealing it is shameful regression of public policy. Most states would not allow a people's veto of a civil rights law, and this vote will determine if Maine will keep the people's veto.

I have posted repeatedly from the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association on the origins of sexual orientation. Have you chosen to ignore it? If so, it's willful ignorance. These are the professions that set the standard for behavioral sciences. I'll post the APA's link again.

http://www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html

Votre NO on ONE

charlotte09 wrote: "I will vote "Yes" on Referendum Question 1. "

Then you will vote to willfully harm people for no good reason. that's terribly immoral.

they did it to Indians Women Blacks and Now Gays

Why the heck change now

Come on

charlotte09 wrote:

"A week has passed. I have read and learned only one thing. If we bundled all the posters who say they have voted no, NO would have won already( hyperbole) for I have never seen so many posts from so few people."

Then you are lying to yourself and had your mind made-up before, because there are jsut as many repetitive posts from the YES side.

So from your very first line I can see that you are a liar - that's really all I need to know.

that would be not one dares answer to any of the Shame here

Step right up and just answer something

If all you got out of all this reading is 1 thang

than 1 of 2 thangs have happened

1 can`t read

2 didn`t read

It was ALL so much easier last night to keep the snakes at bay

all I had to do was (((((((((((((((((((((BOO))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Swear to God ((((((( :~ o )))))))

Autumn - First let me preference this by saying that I am not gay and I am a Christian. But, I am also a realist who is fair and always willing to look at all points of view. I am the kind of person who believes that it is not my job to point out, judge or punish others for their sins. I believe THAT job is better left to HE who is bigger than me - God.

To be fair I think we need to consider that same sex marriage is only one kind of sin. Same sex couples commit one kind of sin and straight couples commit another kind of sin. Denying important rights for one kind of sin but not the other kind of sin seems wrong. What I mean by "another kind of sin" is that all too often heterosexual couples engage in the sins of ADULTERY, DIVORCE, ABORTION, etc... but they don't lose their right to file a joint tax return or to be covered as a family under the same health benefit plan. So, it seems what we are doing with this question is that PEOPLE (not God) are deciding which sin is worse.

Personally, I think this whole problem would not even exist and this question would not even be on a ballet if our government took a different approach to the question of what constitutes a family unit. Think about it, if we had an alternative method that allowed same sex individuals who live together as a FAMILY, who buy homes together, who share incomes, who share a life together to file joint tax returns as a FAMILY then there would be no reason for them to marry. After all, marriage was intended to be a RELIGIOUS union between a man and a woman. But, today's families are not what they used to be. Gone are the days of mom, dad and the kids. Today we have single moms with children, we have single dads, we have remarried couples with yours, mine and ours children, we have grandparents raising grandchildren, we have same sex couples with and without children, we have many different kinds of families but many benefits are based on marriage (a religious union) instead of family (the folks we live with and share a life with). That is the reality and it is that reality that drives the need for same sex couples to be treated as recognized family units.

Deb Brown

Missed this ONe last nite while at the H-Party

Please Please though OMG please don`t tell my wife this one OK. Shakey Heads Now

Ok we agree

On 10/31/09 at 7:02 PM, spbean wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

(OK, THEN WHO'S READY FOR LEGALIZED POLYGAMY IN MAINE??? As many of those who argue FOR same-sex marriage have said..."it's all about equal right's", "being FAIR to ALL Mainer's", and "it's what makes "them" happy". Come on, it's not ridiculous! Be careful how you vote Mainer's...you just might open up a WHOLE CAN OF WORMS!!)

OMG~~~I just can not help feeling that lighting is going to strike me coming from everywhere.

Member no tellie Electra Wife she can get very angry w / me

Well spbean~~~~I guess if you want to bring that Mormon thang here to Maine you going to have to go thru the process.

Now if your asking me because I`m voting No on #1, will I will be obligate to vote For the Mormon Thang.

Lets talk about dat. Hummmm Lets Talk tomorrow. Meet you at China Way, I like it there because of the buffet.

He spbean glad you could make it. Lets get some of that buffet and then negotiate.

Ok spbean~~~If you can let me try out 3 beautiful women, one blond, one red head, and burnette.

the red head needs to be able to do yard work

the burnette needs to cook very well.

And the blond needs to do excellant housekeeping.

After a week of testing there skill level on all there duties.

I willl think about you getting my Vote.

Deal OK shaky shaky

Chersully2000~~~Please don`t rip my head off.

If you do could you put it somewhere that i can find it.

((((( Electra and Electro Hetro Proudly Vorting No on # 1 ))))))

~~~~~~~~Men are Such Pigs~~~Yep we Are~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Your God has no authority over me when it comes to the issue of same-sex marriage. "

As if men have any say whatsoever over God's authority

On 11/1/09 at 4:33 PM, gw2kpro wrote: "Your God has no authority over me when it comes to the issue of same-sex marriage. "

As if men have any say whatsoever over God's authority "

If there is such a thing as "God", he/she/it will take care of matters of "authority" at the appropriate time. In the meantime, while we are all in the here and now, someone has to have authority over civil matters.

And if one chooses not to believe in your "God", his authority does not matter to that person. Surely you can understand that?

ALL men are Pigs and if there is a will there seems to be away.

These Straigh Bigots seem to be saying 10 up 10 down there I`m all done.

Where is the baby

Lets make another one tomorrow OK hon

Canna we reverse the toes just once

Whata think God day on That One

Lets ask at Bigot Class Next Sunday

Ok honyey now you can make me a snakey ok

and be quick for me as I was for you (((((((((( :~ )))))))))

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On 11/1/09 at 4:56 PM, ElectraGlide wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

gettin kinda boring with no real in depth warm fussy feeling ?

So lets try to relate what it must be like to be a yes`er (beside the gettin up and down so much it do ruin a good nappy)

Lets play pin the tail on the donkey ( just like finding the right spot, yes`ers are desperate to find a winning answer)

And I get a kick out of watching dem with that stupid bigot tail, walking aroung blindly.

Where da spot~~~~~where da spot~~~~~~~~~~where da spot~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(((( Probably like there bedroom life )))))

((( Come on Electra you told God you would play well with my Bigot ChIldren too )))