Maybe if someone invested in a place where they could fight legally this wouldn't be an issue. The fact is that some young men have testosterone levels that are through the roof and they need an outlet for their aggression. Pent up aggression can lead to spontaneous attacks out of anger when they otherwise would have ignored the situation. Don't forget that men mature later than women so their hormones will hit highs and lows until early adulthood, often in the early to mid twenties.

I agree with desiree. The kids need a place with a supervised boxing ring. I had a Boy's Club when I was that age which is when the first Rocky film was released.

It's illegal for two people to fight for the fun of it? Who is the victim?

Quote.....n 11/4/09 at 2:01 AM, DesireeMorse wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

Maybe if someone invested in a place where they could fight legally this wouldn't be an issue. The fact is that some young men have testosterone levels that are through the roof and they need an outlet for their aggression. Pent up aggression can lead to spontaneous attacks out of anger when they otherwise would have ignored the situation. Don't forget that men mature later than women so their hormones will hit highs and lows until early adulthood, often in the early to mid twenties.

Your an idiot....I can't believe that you actually wrote this here about a "legal" place to fight....If I found out that my child took place in this, well lets just say that he would never do it again and leave it at that.... and TF Conlon your comment is just as bad, you both should be ashamed of yourselves if your parents.....thank god Ellsworth doesn't know your names....

I think it would be better to put the fight club into jail where maybe they could knock some sense into people that need it. There is plenty of legal fighting if they want to go that way. The activity portrayed here is more gang like. That's something nobody wants or needs.

Fight club was a stupid movie.

So Desirree and tfconlon, you are officially on the record as being pro battery against minors? Just trying to be clear.

Desiree, are you an endocrinologist? Somehow I doubt it.

Wasn't their (Desiree's and tf's) intent something like an organized, coached and supervised boxing ring? I remember as a kid we had a boys' club down the street which had an organized boxing program, with the full spectrum of safety equipment. No problems ever arose from it (that I can remember, anyway).

I AGREE WITH KB 5898 THIS ISN'T A CLUB, IT'S LIKE AN INITIATION INTO "NOT BEING OUTCAST" AT THE HIGHSCHOOL, THAT'S GANG MENTALITY

Technically in Fight Club Brad Pitt and Ed Norton never fought each other because they were the same person representing different personalities. The school and community should take hold of this passion and start a boxing club with proper safety and head gear.

This is the funniest thing i've heard. Idiots!

Even when I was in high school, fights IN the school were a daily occurrence. It was insanity. I said then, and I still say it now, if you can't settle your problems in a civilized manor, there should be a place where it is monitored (ie boxing rings, w/ equipment, etc.) and box it out.

Not that I'm pro-fighting, but I suppose that it IS a way to get out any frustrations. An outlet, so to speak. I'll betcha there would be a lot less people (young adults) heading to jail/prison for violence and possibly homicide.

I can't believe the posters here actually wanting a legal place for teenagers to bare fist fight. They can take up boxing it's a legal sport. Our youth today need more positive social outlets. My teens school does not even have school dances any more. When they have nothing to do they do stupid stuff like this.

if there were some one down there with the right traning and equitment these young people could be traind the right way and then maybe enjoy this sport the way it was meant for.

How about ALL of the teens found to be involved in these types of fights being charged with assault ? This is the most ridiculous way to exhibit a persons strength or whatever it is they are trying to prove. They need more homework from school, more work at home and parents who ground them for being involved in such activities. These kids have grown up with the staged wrestling matches on TV and made to think those idiots are heroes and champions. Violence of this sort has got to be stopped . Peer pressure can go both ways . The kids who behave in a civil way need to put more pressure on the ones who don't. If the kids have too much time on their hands why don't they do some volunteer work to help elderly or get a part time job bagging groceries or some such thing.

Part of me likes the idea of letting it be...if these kids are dumb enough to partake, what happens happens.

/almost sarcasm

Hahahahahaha There is no ''Ring leader''

This wasn't even a ''Fight Club'' News and Police are r3tarted. This is just a spot where if kids have a problem with one and another they would fight there since its off school property and the principal can't b1itch about it. Jesus i know some teachers in the school that were interested in watching the fights.

Put an MMA gym someplace in the Ellsworth area and allot of this would stop.

Straight from some highly involved.

So many of these children have no sense of direction, stability or a place to really call home after school. Often times there are no parents waiting for them after school when they walk through the door and many parents don't make their kids accountable or even care where they are.

The comment made by Roberts: "Most of these kids are good kids from good families,” he said. “Most of them said they did not want to be there, but there was a lot of pressure to be involved in it." tells me that these children lack the ability to say "no" which boils down to boredom and low self-esteem. I don't care that it "appears" that these kids came from good families or not. Obviously there's a problem of some sort somewhere.

ataloss has it exactly right.............I AGREE WITH KB 5898 THIS ISN'T A CLUB, IT'S LIKE AN INITIATION INTO "NOT BEING OUTCAST" AT THE HIGHSCHOOL, THAT'S GANG MENTALITY

Peer pressure gone wild.

back in my day we just smoked weed between classes on that trail. how times have changed.

This isn't really fighting. In Maine we call this "bonding". This activity sounds identical to what took place after school on a regular basis where I went to school in suburban Bangor. It was fun to watch in a morbid sort of way. Ah, the good ol' days!

Hell in Bath during the late 80's and early 90's we just went to the Salt Mines which coincidently bordered school property. Any issue that needed attention between students: Salt Mines 2:30. You mouth off to a kid and he calls you on it: Salt Mines 2:30. You make out with someones girl, thats right Salt Mines 2:30. It helped curb bad behavior because kids would stop running their mouths and acting out if there were repercussions. It was kind of like when parents were allowed to discipline their kids. The good old days with long haired kids in Camel Joe jackets...When done right you could make it to Salt Mines (where the town keeps the winter salt/sand) see a fight and make it back to the bus home.

Let them join the marines where they can do some good. They are just following their leaders. Cheney, Bush and Bin Laden. What moral ground are we standing on telling them this is not right. This is all they see on TV and movies and then they see it on the news. Be prepared people didn’t Cheney suggest a hundred year war?

whos cares this is a lame story....kids being kids and the authorities being douches

Just another example like another article in todays paper of a 23 year old guy dateing a 15 year old girl, and kicking the crap out of her and in her hand bag they find used hypodermic needles,marajuana,ciggarettes,and they had been drinking,,,and it was 1AM in the morning,,, several of the comments about same sex couples raising children would hurt and damage the children,,, doesn't sound like there are many heterosexual parents doing much good at raising their children now are they?

poor anonon, having an election day hangover are we?

Just when it seemed that every youth was being groomed by society to be a panzy........ a ray of HOPE shines through.

boogyman:

Not at all.

Just stateing a fact to prove that what the yes on 1 side was claiming that same sex parents were only going to raise their children poorly and had no right to raise children. Proveing a poing that heterosexuals do more damage and are not always raiseing children like they should be, and that they are no better than same sex couples...

Ugh! These heterosexuals and their sick, sick habits.

What makes you so sure that none of these kids parents are not homos?

What do their parents have to do with it?

Oh sorry, didn't realize you were asking anonon.

Hey all you supporters of letting kids beat the crap out of each other and thinking the authorities and adults should just let kids be kids...have you listened to Muhammad Ali speak anytime in the past 20 years? Did you understand him? Ummm, maybe another leisure based activity other than punching a fellow peer in the head. Ask Duk Koo Kim what he wold think about this activity....wait, can't ask him, he died following a legal beating in the ring. And besides, isn't this why God invented Wii Boxing? Have all the fun of actually beating someone to the ground, but without the pain.

Hello,

What I ment was a Boxing ring with a trainer with the PT and sportsmanship and all !!! I think this would be better than having todays hover mom take little porky out for another pizza.

In regards to Desiree's comment, I halfy agree, not that teens should be fighting like this legally, but in regards to their testosterone levels, etc. I worked with teenage boys in a group home, and work with all men. There is a gym that was started in Bangor by one of the UFC fighters, something like this would really help youngesters out to get that testosterone etc out of their system but doing it safely and legally. So no Brooks10 Desiree isnt an idiot..I have 2 boys so I know what you mean about allowing children to do this but again, in a gym or something like that is one thing..

This is a result of too much television and internet instead of proper adult supervision. What happened to real family values, having dinner together, playing a board game, or going for a walk? This would be too ideal, am I right? I believe we need to get back to the old-fashioned type of child-rearing, when we actually did activities and spent quality time with our kids. Our kids are left unsupervised too often and as a result injuries and/or deaths occur. I, too am at fault for working too many hours and taking that time away from my children. Organized after school activities with proper adult supervision would be a fantastic start to any community!

This behavior is ok because its part of nature, its the way the kids are programmed they cant help it. they were born this way blah blah blah.

LOL @ this. Who cares? They are there because they want to be there. Fighting is as much of a sport as baseball. Leave the kids alone! At least there not doing drugs or busing in peoples houses.

"civilized manor" Is that like Collinwood?

Kids need HEALTHY outlets. What is wrong with things like..raking leaves, digging holes, pounding nails, helping elderly neighbors, volunteering, swimming, hiking, sports, gymnastics, jogging, walking.....etc...... There are plenty of ways to get rid of excess testosterone without beating each others brains in. Even if people are careful, with violent behaviors, someone eventually gets seriously hurt. Then everyone is sorry.

This sh*t belongs in the south.

Ok, being one of the kids charged in this - all I have to say is, is that the press is over exaggerating this story way too much. These WERE organized fights, yes. They were NOT for fun, this is just a place that kids would go to fight after school in order to get off school grounds. There were no "titles" in the fights, and there were never a huge mass of kids there. Maybe 15-20, but never more than that. Anyway, all I know is that I'm done with planned fights. If Ellsworth really wants to lower the amount of fights, get boxing at the Y or something along those lines.

In this "politically correct" world, teens and adults both feel confined and forced into "narrow perspectives". Our freedoms of speech are being erroded daily by pressure from this or that special interest group. Caucasians especially feel this "sqeeze" and are targeted unmercifully if they have an opposing viewpoint. No wonder our kids are expressing their anger through aggression toward each other. They don't have a "politically correct" (punintended) outlet. They are shouted down and told their opinons are not correct and they need to be politically or otherwise correct. We are losing ourselves to this political correctness. I for one am very weary of it. Anyone else feel this way?

BTW -- I plan to say "Merry Christmas" this Christmas season. I'm tired of everyone who does not believe in Christmas the same way I do tellilng me I should say "Happy Holidays" so as not to offend anyone. If someone said happy Hannukah (sp?) to me, I'd smile and say the same to show my appreciation & tolerance for the religion and it's people. That's how you act in society. I wouldn't scowl and "insist" they say happy holidays. Enough is enough people. Very tired of all of this crap.

HAHAHAA, someone tell these kids to play a sport. My brother in law knows some of these kids. Most of them were kids who were to chicken S**T to try out for a sport team or weren't good enough. Bunch of wimps. They would never box. Boxing takes to much athleticism for them.