This is enough of enough! Lee, who owned the pit bull dogs seems to not recognize the danger of these types of animals...their nature, or their kind of breed. Seems Lee is arguing for some kind of compensation...maybe, but we need to find out more later on. Lee...forget it! The animal control officer did thier job, and was justified in the decision to put those animals of yours to sleep. People who own pit bulls, it has been reported in may annals concerning these dogs, or othr animal types, are "extensions" of the animals' owners personality. Think about this for a minute. Why would anyone own a pit bull? Why would anyone own a poodle? A German Shepherd. A Dobermann Pinscher? Simply because they are "extensions" of the personality or "egos" of their owners. Lee actually did give up her rights to have the dogs killed by the officers. Justified! The animals tresspassed onto the property of the Babcock's...and attacked their dog. What would have happened if instead of the dog, Jack, the attack was aimed at a child? If fines were levied against Lee, then it is Lee's responsibility to support the fines made payable to the Town of Carmel. It is Lee's responsibility to support the fine payments under the State's laws. And, it is Lee's responsibility to support the payments of Jack's medical bills...and possibly tresspassing charges. Mrs. Lee...your situation is under sympathy...but what if one of these dogs turned onto your own child or yourself? Get rid of these pit bull puppies...forever. No matter who says what about pit bull dogs, they are dangerous.

IF I was Miss Lee's neighbors I would find every oppurtunuty to kill them pups. Pit Bulls were bred for one purpose and one purpose only...to kill other animals. The simpleton that wrote in yesterday saying how cute his pit bulls were laying next to his newborn baby should be reported to DHS for child endangerment. Pit Bulls are social status among people like Micheal Vick and the other crack dealers and wanna be morons of this world. This animal control officer did her job and should be commended. Its high time that town adopt ordinances to ban Pit bulls and the sale of them.

Sounds like a puppy mill to me. Doesn't Maine have laws against this type of things, too. If not they should because that is where the bulk of the inferior animals come from.

Ahh here we have it again....Good God!!! IT'S A PIT BULL!!!! RUN!!!!. Yes, PitBulls were bred as fighting dogs, yes they can be dangerous....So can a shitzu. Any animal with teeth and claws has the ability to inflict damage. I have not only owned pit bulls but seen them around town. IF they are trained and raised in a loving and caring home they can be the bests pets in the world. Saying that they are a breed that needs to be eliminated is comparable to the old west and settlers trying to "eliminate" the red savage. Do not judge all the members of one breed by a few bad apples. Stop playing the rhetorical fear game and get a mind. I have also seen the fear game played on Rottweilers, Dobermans, German Sheperds and guess what ....The BIg Bad Wolf! It is not the animals fault, it IS the owners responsibility and ultimately blame for their pets actions. Ms. Lee admits that she took the dogs in because she wanted to save them and Madison was pregnant. This has turned out to be one of those "good deeds" that literally turned around and bit her in the arse. She didn't know what their temperments were or what the previous owners had done with or to them. As for puppy mills, A puppy mill is one where the animals are kept in travel cages stacked one on top of the other in a private location away from prying eyes. Not a home where two dogs are having a litter. My heart goes out to her neighbors and to Jack the sheperd, but at least Ms. Lee has stepped up and taken responsibility.

I don't happen to agree that Pit bulls are bread for just one purpose, to kill other animals. Yes, many people do breed them for that, but a pit bull raised in a loving home is just as nice a dog as any other. I know a few people who have them and they are sweet dogs.

ALL dogs regardless of the breed has the potential to kill whether you agree or not. I raised a collie from a pup and when she got to be about 3yrs old she got so mean I had to have her to put down. It hurt me to the core as she was my constant companion and I loved her dearly but I knew if I kept her I would end up in trouble and someone would have been hurt. In her case she was over-protecting me and it cost her, her life.

Pitbulls are getting the bad wrap right now that the German Shepherd, Doberman,& Rotweiler, have gotten for years.

Dogs are like people, some are products of their environment and some are raised to be kind and loving.

As a matter of fact out of all the pitbulls seized in the famous football players scandal only two had to be euthenized. All the others went to good homes and were very loving pets.

I would again like to point out that I know these families and Lee specifically took htese two dogs because they were to have puppies, and she was going to sell them. When complaints recently came in about the two adult dogs Lee stated numerous times that she didn't care about the adult dogs- she just needed the puppies to be old enough to sell. Those of you who think she was being a great person because she rescued the dogs- don't be fooled everyone in town who knows her knows better then that. Also I agree that it is how an animal has been raised- not what breed it is. No matter what breed of animal if it shows agression it needs to be dealt with.

Lee's dogs caused serious harm to her neighbour's dog and threatened their family before. She should be sued for negligence and fined for being a lousy person and dog owner. I'm certain her kids are just as poorly raised as the dogs, and will no doubt end up in jail.

"Lee said paying the fines will be difficult and added that she feels like a villain when all she was trying to do was save the dogs and help support her family."

SHE IS A VILLAIN, SHE CAUSED HER NEIGHBOUR'S DOGS TO DIE!!!!!!

My family has owned 4 pitbulls. All 4 were raised from 6 weeks up. Not one of those dogs ever showed a hint of aggression towards any of my family members. I have 4 kids. All 4 of the dogs would sleep with my kids or my husband and I on our beds. They are most loyal and loving breed I have ever seen. Sure they were bred to kill other animals, but if they are raised with love they are not aggressive. It is the owner who should be held accountable for what their dog does, not the dog. The media plays a big part on how people view these breeds as well as the other so called "dangerous dogs." The only time you hear of a dog attack it is a pit bull, a rottweiller or german shepherd. What about all the other breeds who bite "PEOPLE"? You dont hear about that. HHMMM, I wonder why. It's because no one thinks that these dogs can hurt or maim a person when in fact those ankle biters do bite humans more than the "dangerous dogs" do. As I said before, my family has owned 4 pitbulls, as well as 1 german shepherd (When I was a child) and 2 rottweillers. One of the pit bulls died at 5 months old, and the other 3 had to be given away to responsible owners because of stupid people like the ones who post on here to KILL THE PUPPIES . Everyone is afraid of these dogs because of STUPID PEOPLE and the MEDIA. My kids still get upset because we had to give them away. We moved into a home that would not allow us to have the animals. Everyone needs to educated on these animals. Do some research before you post stupid comments on the precious animals.

To RUSSHERMON, you are a moron for posting that someone should be reported to DHS for child endangerment for allowing their pit bull to lay next to their newborn. I would allow this breed to lay there before any other. Also, it is morons like you who give these loving and loyal breeds their bad name. You would be the one who made these dogs turn on another animal because of your ignorance.

oK, THE DOG DIDN'T DIE, BUT IS HURT BECAUSE OF THIS IDIOT.

I HOPE SHE IS SUED FOR THE BILLS, FOR DISTRESS AND ANGUISH. SHE IS A VERY BAD IRRESPONSIBLE PERSON.

To Russ: I am not a pitbull fan but Kill the puppies.... Common... they should atleast get a chance to go to someone responsible who may make them into a good pet....

YOU CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A PITT BULL.....TRAINED BE DAMMED

Just because a dog is trained and raised in a loving home doesn't mean it won't unexpectedly turn on someone or another animal. This happens all the time, dogs can be unpredictible. Pit bulls seem to be notorious for this. This woman might have thought she was doing a good thing by "saving" these dogs but if you are having a hard time financially and need to support a family this is not the way to do it. Did she realize how much it costs to feed two big dogs, the puppies, plus get their licenses and the vet bills? She is just lucky that the attacked dog did not die and that a child was not killed because of her dogs. Here in NY a 92 year old man was killed by two pit bulls this summer, he was a healthy war veteran who was just out in his backyard. He lingered for weeks, having a leg and almost an arm amputated because of this, then he finally died of his injuries. This woman is so lucky that more damage wasn't done.

“Had we been able to quarantine them, ( Lee’s two pit bulls, Madison and Money, were put down at Penobscot Veterinary Hospital on the Davis Road in Bangor, She obviously COULD of quarantine them) they still would have had to be euthanized” because they were dangerous, Ricker said. This is a decision of a judge, NOT Kathie Ricker The law states a dog COULD legally be euthanized. COULD is a key word here, again its a Judges decision, not Kathie Rickers. In addition to numerous complaints about the dogs being at large, Town Manager Tom Richmond said the pit bulls were not licensed and did not have records of rabies vaccinations. This means Kathie Ricker wasnt doing her job in the first place. but because Lee agreed to allow the dogs to be put down, she gave up her rights. (“I was told I had no choice”( Shannon Lee) This is Kathie Ricker giving legal advice, Prohibition. No person may practice law or profess to practice law within the State or before its courts, or demand or receive any remuneration for those services rendered in this State, unless that person has been admitted to the bar of this State and has complied with section 806-A, or unless that person has been admitted to try cases in the courts of this State under section 802.[ 1989, c. 265, §1 (NEW); 1989, c. 104, Pt. C, §§2 and 10 (RPR); 1989,c. 755, (RPR) .]2. Violation. Any person who practices law in violation of these requirements is guilty of the unauthorized practice of law, which is a Class E crime.

My daughter got bit twice by a border collie in one incident. To say that only specific breeds are dangerous is wrong. Even the animal control officer I spoke too said a Border Collie has a higher rate of incident than a lot of other breeds. It is just that people bark louder at dogs like Pit Bulls who he confirmed have a low rate of incidence considering. They are also very loyal animals that have lower temperaments than a Border Collie and a Golden Retriever. They are not bad dogs. Unfortunately; some have bad owners therefore giving the breed a bad reputation.

On the other hand, any dangerous dog should be put down. These were evidently dangerous dogs since they were disobedient, got loose and attacked another dog, and were possibly raised poorly. The lack of veterinary records given to the lady who tried to rescue the dogs before the previous owners ran off to Florida supports my last statement. I’m glad no people got hurt.

Herbycomput, you are an idiot

Its NOT the dogs!!! Its the dog owner!

Previous posts have said "To say that only specific breeds are dangerous is wrong." and "Its NOT the dogs!!! Its the dog owner!" Then why are all these incidents about pit bulls?

What an idiot, does she have a clue? Outlaw these dogs!!!!!!!!!!!

Great comment Woody1...I cannot remember in recent memory of any dog attack story that has not involved a Pit Bull and the PB being the agressor and causing harm to others and their pets. Enough said, these animals are a danger to other animals and more importantly to the welfare of human beings!

Ooooh and a touchy subject.. I am totally appauled at what you people have to say. Wrong in this sitation.... plain and simple, dogs should have been quarantined.. all of you "law abiding citizens" in your own words have agreed to go against the law. Granted, signing custody over allows officials to do as they please. Personally, this woman should not have animals... period. Part of responsible dog ownership is maintaining control of your dog, not opening your front door and letting them run wild. Did you know that Pit Bull's are not even in the top five of dogs most likely to attack humans without being provoced? You people sicken me. This woman is not a puppy mill she is a back yard breeder, trying to make money off of life. You all tink they should die, well, do your research.

Extensions of a personality?? Where did you ever get that crap from? Any open minded person knows to do their research before opening their mouth. Pit Bull's were bred to fight, you can't breed out or train out what has been bred in for hundreds of years.. however, ANIMAL aggression.. NOT human aggression and so many people tend to confuse that. Any dog can bite. It is how they are bred, how they are trained, health status and properly socialized or not. This woman, had NO RIGHT having these dogs. She shouldn't have had any dogs. Getting a pregnant dog because you can make money off of them puppies.. Any responsible breeder will say it evens out with shots and wormings and vet check ups.. Not to mention the health risks you are putting the mother in.. prolapsed uterus, mastitis, infections, narrow birth canal could stop a pup and kill all the pupies and the mother. Who knows if they were pure bred, who knows the genetic back ground and health history of any of the sire and dam, who knows if they are UTD on shots?? This woman should be punished! I do not care if it was a Pit Bull or a Peekapoo. The justice of the DOGS are what needs to be sought out. People get these dogs for protection when all they are doing is ruining the breed even more, irresponsibly owning animals and they blame the dog. It is morons like this woman who are giving dogs in general,especially bully breeds a bad name. They should not be bred, as any dog, they should not be bred unless they are contributing to the positive of the breed. Shepherds are equally dangerous dogs. Shepherds are trained and bred to attack man, pits aren't.. I really think that the majority of you should do your research and get your facts straight before opening your mouths. Media has created such a hate for these dogs that most of you have maybe never met one in your life and hold against what man has done to them against the entire breed. Pit Bull's originated in England as "the Nanny dog" because people left their children home alone. These dogs will protect a child or their owner with their lives and give one hundred percent. Will your Sheltie do that? They are the goofiest, fun loving good natured dogs is socialized right and trained. Bad dogs aren't born, they are made. Owner responisibility.. I have always owned Pit Bull's and/or labs.never had issues with aggression and been doing it since 1989. You cannot compare NY to central Maine. It is horrible that a dog was inured, but in all reality.. this woman should be the one in question. Those puppies NEED to be taken from her, brought to the Bangor Humane Society and properly adopted out. BHS has a great success rate with no history of issues concerning adopting out Pit Bull's. They spay and neuter and screen homes in depth. Look for a rescue in the area. She should lose her puppies and be held accountable for all damages.

Law is not doing enough to the irresponsible owners of these dogs. Set an example. Once they outlaw Bully breeds, they will find another dog to fight, they will find another breed to focus their hate on. It is a proven fact that any dog that is short haired, muscular built and likely black is claimed to be a it bull. They have issues in Florida of unidentified dogs being claimed as Pit Bull's, when their breed is unknown. Why is that?? They are easy targets. These dogs are what most idiots have for pets and give them bad names, so there fore, they claim it is the dogs fault. If your five year old stabs a person, is it the five years old fault or the adult who left them unsupervised and put them in the situation that lead up to this event? ANY DOG can bite.. I seen many different cases of Akitas, German Shepherds, Dobermans, Dalmations, Cocker Spaniels, Huskies, labs, Chihuahuas (just to name a few). Why aren't they being put out thre as a danger? Pet ownership is a responsibility.. it is a privelage.. not a right.

She didn't care about these dogs, she just wanted to make money off of them. If she didn't have any money then how can she effectively care for 2 pitbulls. I'm glad they put those 2 mangey flee-bags down. Good Ridens.

herbycomput if you watch the news the owner of the pitts said she took them in because one was pregnant and she wanted to sell the pups, so i take that as she didn't have them very long, you do realize that there could have been complaints on these dogs and that Kathy Rickers may have acted on them, but it takes time. The first time she gets a complaint she just cannot walk onto someone elses property and take the dogs. Kathy has rules that she has to follow. She has to give warnings, then tickets, and then there has to repeated misbehavior on the dogs or their owners part for her to take further action. The shepherds owner claims this is not the first incident with the pitts, did she report it before? People can complain when someones animal gets out of hand, but if they don't want to go to court and be a witness, Kathys hands are tied. Alot of people complain but won't take further action cuz they don't want their neighbors to know they are the ones making complaints. I am not on the side of the pittbulls owner, I think she knew she has aggressive dogs, and did not properly restrain them, and having dogs that aggressive near her own little girl is stupid. I feel bad for the shepherd and his owners, and I hope he gets better. But, in the long run who really suffers, the pittsbull owners daughter, because she already has the crappy end of the deal by having a mother like that, and now her mother has fines to pay that I'm sure her wel-fare check won't be enough to cover. Lay off the ACO and put the blame where it really belongs to Shannon Lee!!

To shannon Lee I don't believe you were told you didn't have a choice, maybe in your best interest? You couldn't afford to pay to have them euthanized, could you afford to pay for them to be in quarantine for ten days? You would have been responsible for that ya know?? You say they weren't aggressive, well you said the male was friendly as long as the female weren't around, that is admitting that the dogs had aggression problems. Your lucky it wasn't your little girl that was chewed up!!!

Years back, while out walking at night, a pitbull literally came tearing out of a house, into the roadway, and muckled onto my left hand. I was wearing a thick hunting glove. The dog did not bite and only applied pressure, but that was considerable. Someone inside the house called him back in. The scumbag made no attempt to inquire as to my hand. The next day I went to the police. I told them I had a permit to carry, and would dump that dog in the middle of the street and pump all six 44mag slugs into his fat head if he came at me again. I never saw the dog again, and I always assumed that the police went to the house. Lately, there has been a stray (not a pitbull) that runs around sometimes, pins my cats on the porch, eats their food, and snaps and lounges at me and my wife. Should that dog come back and threaten my cats, my wife, or me again, I have every intention of 'solving' that problem too.

For those of you pit bull haters. i really don't know why you are flapping off about them because I KNOW that is how you train them and treat them that makes them the way they are. i know that thirteen year old girl and i own a pit bull my self. i disagree on your opinions... well most of you.

Rocklandphil.. have you called animal control?? Maybe a stray dog that has no home, has no food.. Call before someone does get hurt.

A: If her "friends" that gave her the dogs were responsible owners in the first place, they would have looked a little harder for appropriate placement for the dogs.

B: A single mom with kids, on a limited income, should have known better than to try to take on the responsiblity of two dogs, and a future litter. The medical bills alone for the PROPER care of mom and pups would have been a strain.

C: The dogs getting loose is strictly her fault/responsibilit y. Too bad the dogs were the ones that had to pay the price for irresposible humans.

My sympathy lies with the euthanized dogs, and the orphaned pups, not the human. BYB's of all breeds are a problem everywhere. This situation boils down to ignorance, BSL, lack of restriction on backyard breeders (of ANY breed) and just plain lack of responsibility.

Try placing the burden for the dogs actions on the HUMAN who didn'd raise, socialize, or train their dogs properly, regardless of breed. Its not the vicious Pitbull, it's the ignorant owner.

I will concede to the point that the officer was not to blame, he is following procedure. If we don't like the action taken by our Police / Animal control officers, the sensible thing to do would be to rally for a change in procedure.

Thank you for allowing me to "vent"

Liz-Mom to Ceasar: 85 lb neutered male brindle pitbull.

Punish the deed, not the breed

99% of dog attacks are the fault of ignorant pet owners, misguided trainers, and weak nerves from bad breeding. Maybe if they start euthanizing some of those folks these sorts of things will stop happening.

This is absolutely ridiculous. That girl SHOULD go to jail - maybe that will give her the time that she needs to realize that she needs to get a JOB to support her child. I hope that she is fined the maximum amount on every charge. Personally, I don't think that she should be allowed to keep the rest of those puppies. In fact, I question her parenting skills given the fact that she took strange Pit Bulls into her home with her young child! Her sole purpose of taking those dogs was to make money - NOT to be a responsible pet owner.

Responsible Owner?? How about a responsible parent? She took in dogs that have a great reputation for being bred for fighting and aggression. Can't imagine taking them with kids in the house. How much could she really know about how these dogs were trained and raised. Guess money must be a motivator. And to the people defending the pitbulls. Of course other dogs bite. Key word being Bite. Read the articles about pitbull attacks - they don't bite. They either attack, maul, or kill. Big difference. Glad these dogs are dead - got rid of two more pitbulls in the country.

Please tell me it's legal in Maine to euthanize Shannon Lee.

These pit bulls went through a window that contained an air conditioner-------------Miss Lee should be killed?????????????(euthanized) What is wrong with you people???????????????? She is a 20 year old young person with a big heart. Thank god nobody's children got hurt from all of this, but let's just persecute this girl for trying to do a good thing and really it doesn't seem that it was all for the money, after all, her words were to save them from the further abuse. That was the original intent here! So why not just KILL her, you people are absolutely dispicable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hasn't she already been through enough of people calling her a bad Mom, lousy person,idiot,a very bad irresponsible person,etc. She or the neighbor were not even home at the time this all took place, It is not like she let them out without trying to control them. Maybe Carmel should have a better leash law, it certainly would have protected Jack better!!! Only because it has been said that as long as your dog stays on your property, it doesn't have to be leashed. After all , these are animals and you can not be certain as to whether they are going to obey and not stray when unsupervised. We really do not know, because they are ANIMALS, even children disobey when we are not looking.

RocklandPhil, while I can understand your uneasiness of this stray roaming and lunging at you and your wife, "solving" that problem that way isn't as intelligent as you might think, what if one of your 44mags should, by freak accident-god forbid, go astray and hit someone, which is worse on your conscience, a dead dog or a dead person?

I do have to say one thing, this past Sunday I was apple picking with my husband and my kids (ages 8 and 2) in Etna. As we were getting back into our vehicle, a family of 4 or 5 was just getting out of theirs. The next thing I knew a Saint Bernard and a Shepherd come barreling out of the car without a leash. The shepherd got one look of me carrying my 2 year old and starts to snarl and growl and work his way closer to me. I put my child in the car and shut the door, as quickly as I could, I froze when I turned around to discover the dog was standing directly beside me. It must have been at least 3-5 minutes before the owner even realized what the dog was doing. She then called the dog over to her, who hesitated, and continued on her merry way, the dog still not a damn leash, and the orchard was filled with children, and even elderly people. I am not normally afraid of ANY dog.

There is a leash law for a reason. If you are going to be a dog owner, then that means keeping your animal under control AT ALL TIMES. Inside and outside of your home.

May I ask where Miss Lee, a young mother with no money, was at nine o'clock the night in question? If she was home, then couldn't she hear the air conditioner being pushed out of a window?! And also, the female pitt was pregnant....I've never seen, or heard of for that matter, a pregnant dog escaping through a window. They are usually pretty calm and avoid any kind of confrontation or undue stress. That makes me scratch my head....

Anyway, Shannon, you stated that you had attempted to get vaccination papers from the previous owners after the FIRST incident, you should have gotten them vaccinated, or at least some sort of a booster if you were unsure, immediately after you didn't get a response back from them. You should NOT have had these dogs in the first place.....end of story.

Ok people. Why do pitbulls and my breed (rottweilers) have a bad rap? The media. For every pit bull that is reported to have bitten there are thousands more who are well trained, well bred, dogs with great temperments. The media never reports on the GOOD dogs. believe me I have tried. Two if my rotties are certified therapy dogs. i called every news station in the Sacramento area to come out and do a story on MY dogs. Not one of them would. Why? Good dogs don't make interesting news! We are a society that likes to watch and hear about the bad and the gory. We will watch that. Do a feel good story and we change the channel. It doesn't give them good ratings. I compete in several sports and conformation with my dogs. The dogs in these venues of ALL breeds are typically well bred, socialized and trained. A product of responsible humans who put a lot of work and time into them. Guaranteed any dog that bites or attacks ANYTHING is only doing what a human has allowed them or taught them to do. Dogs (all dogs) are canines. Canines are social pack animals. Attacking a member of their own species is outside the law of nature. HUMANS on the other hand WILL attack thier own species and have now taken that into the dog world. Pit bulls are EXTREMELY loyal animals and will TRY to their dying breath to do what their HUMANS want them to do. Sadly that means going against nature and attacking their own kind. HUMANS do this to THEM! Some of you are right, peiople get these powerful breeds as a status symbol and make or allow these dogs to do all kinds of horrible things. Sadly the breed not the human takes the blame. There are certion faction of the human race that should never own a dog, any dog and probably should not be reproducing themselves. Sounds like this gal is one of them. The puppies should all be removed from her care so they can be placed with responsible people who have the knowledge and ability to place the pups with responsible owners. She does NOT have this ability and sadly these puppies will likely be placed with irresponsible, ignorant people who once again will perpetuate another generation of dogs who will sadly give this wonderful breed a bad name. Dogs (any breed) in the hands of a reponsible owner will be well behaved wonderful pets, just like children in the hands of reponsible parents will grow up to be responsible productive humans. We all know the flip side to this. Responsible breeders (all breeds) are VERY careful and selective of the homes that we place out puppies in. When we make mistakes (and we do) we make sure we get that animal back. I spent $8000 to get one of my pups back from an abusive owner. he could have been a statistic (another BAD rottie) but I was NOT going to allow it. I will NEVER recoup that $$...EVER! But it was $$ well spent. Those of you who are against certain breeds, educate yourselves. Go to dog shows and sporting events and see what the well bred, well trained and socialized members of the breed are like before you pass judgement. Your eyes will be opened...trust me!

The neighbor wasn't even home? Who leaves their dog out while they leave the house for ANY amount of time. And if Jack got out on his own too, then how can these pitts be held 100% liable?

To Woody I'm a letter carrier and I average 1 bite a year even knowing which dogs bite. A German Shepard has got to be the worst dog alive. They bite more times by sneaking up on a person than any other dog. In 23 years I have had two other type dog bites a dobe and a mutt. The press is after pit bulls and that is why you only see articles about them.

shannon_71605 did not write that comment. I did.

I ditto petchiro, I too have rotties, show in obedience and am very active with them they are an extention of our family. Like all families there are good responsible ones and irresponsible ones. For those of us responsible law abiding so called dangerous breed owning families we work hard to keep our breeds from becoming extinct because of comments like these coming across this post it shows us how many of you are uneducated about our breeds. Please take some time to go to your local dog shows and talk to your local breeders these are the people that can answer your questions regarding their breeds, please don't judge anything by what you see in the media ! This should not be a witch hunt for either Ms Lee or Pit Bulls this is a world full of mistakes none of us are exempt - however with that being said Ms Lee does need to owe up to hers and not pass them on to others and we as law abiding citizens need to make sure our communities are implementing the laws that already exist and stop wasting tax payers money trying to make new ones. Ms Lee my wish is for you to take ownership in being a bad pet owner and to get the help you and your child need.

I am no crack dealer or moron for that matter but I own a pitbull. Myself, YES my children, my friends and family love him dearly and I would trust my dog over most people in this town, especially the ones that work for it!!! Kathy Ricker....Psh she isnt worth the space provided.

The Babcocks should be at some fault, in my opinion, just for the fact that their dog was at large and always is. No one actually saw what happened other than when Ricki came out, at that point they were on her property but what goes to say their dog Jake didnt go over on Ms Lees property? I feel that any dog that is running loose is a danger, whether its my pitbull or the neighbors little ankle biters. My neighbor who is a police officer is always letting their dog run at large, I always thought HE of all people would know the laws but then again.........this is carmel!!!!! I have been told that greyhounds are harmless and not to worry about it.

As far as paying the town of carmel for the MURDERS of these dogs, they chose to kill them instead of follow the law so there should be no payback. If they had gone by the law Ms Lee would be footing that bill, but I feel the town of carmel did what they always do,and that is WHATEVER THEY WANT and not what the laws say.

Just for S&G maybe the town of Carmel should adopt that leash law just out of COMMON SENSE....because ALL DOGS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO KILL REGARDLESS OF BREED!!!!!

Oh and when I recycle those bottles and cans how come three dobermans meet me at my car door? They dont act nice but they are owned by the Babcocks and they are allowed to run loose..... again this is carmel and they go by the value of your name not the law..............

Murder. That's funny. And the media needs to report the 'good' pitbulls? I'm glad the media portrays the bad and the gory. It keeps the rest of us on our toes as to how harmful these dogs can be and what they're capable of.

You superduper are an angle biter.. If your town has a lease law they need to enforce it and where was said German Shepard on lease walking or in a fenced backyard? Soundslike the media left some information out of their article... If the GS was not on lead and loose in a non-fenced yard both parties are at fault and should be held responsible in paying back the community. Get off your uglines.... This nation has enough evil doers.....

the shepherd was on his owners deck, it's a good thing he was not leashed it would have been in the way of him defending himself, not that the poor thing stood a chance. everybody can continue to argue over this, but it doesn't do any good. we could take all the comments posted here and write a book about pittbulls. not all pittbulls are bad, not all shepherds are bad, i'm sure carmel isn't as bad as some of you are making it out to be (and if it is MOVE), and kathy Ricker is not a bad person or a bad ACO. Look at Sharon Lee imagine dealing with people and dogs like this 20 times a day, you can't win them all.

Alright some people on here obviously lack common sense when it comes to dogs. The Pitbull, the Shepard, for example always get a bad reputation Why? Because of people like you which I don't need to name, you know who you are. I have seen Pit Bulls grow to be great dogs, harmless, because the home they was brought up in had owners that took care of them. My family owned a German Shepard brought up to kill dogs, BUT that dog was later brought up to not have that attitude.

You people jump to conclusions thinking that because it is a pit bull it is automatically all pit bulls are killers. I'll train a hound to sniff out dogs and attack them and you tell me after that all Hounds are wonderful dogs. The woman attempted to take care of dogs, yes there is some responsibility such as putting them on a leash, etc where this is new territory for the dogs. I don't see or hear of any proof that they was brought up to attack other dogs, but perhaps because the bulls were new to the area they perhaps lacked being trained on what was their land, and yes the Pit Bull owner should pay for damages. HOWEVER thank God I don't live in Carmel, a Town that assumes all dogs must die when they attack someone. Animal Control Officers tend to overreact, heck the next time a person is accused of attacking someone else maybe we should euhtinize them?

The law is written so poorly that allows Animal Control Officers to abuse their rights in these cases.

“if it has killed, maimed or inflicted serious bodily injury upon a person [or domestic animal] or has a history of a prior assault.”

Nothing defines inflicted or serious bodily injury. What is serious bodliy injury? Is it one bite? Two? Ten? Not only do people on here need to lay off a bit but the law needs a bit of help in some explanations. It seems these instances pop up where Animal Control Officers go on killing or euhtinizing power trips. People get rights, dogs and animals deserve them too. The dogs could have been quarantined, examined or something. I know of an instance years ago an owner had Beware of Dog signs on his land. A neighbor come by while a German Shepard was eating his food. The neighbor indicated he would go pet the dog, the owner told the neighbor to not go near the dog while he is eating, he does not appreciate it. The dog mind you was well behaved, trained, and defended it's owners and land. Well the neighbor teased and taunted the dog, and after not listening to the owner, the Shepard bit his arm and would not let off until the owner called him off shortly after. The neighbor called animal control, hours later DESPITE what was told the dog was put down and Animal Control insisted there was no other option. Point being Animal Control needs a leash, not just dogs!!

It's not ugliness - it's reality. And what exactly is an angle biter?

I also would like to know what an 'angle biter' is. Thats a new one! What a mess over the Dogs! Personally, I am terrified of any dog that I don't know, as results from being bitten by the dogs that 'Oh, he won't hurt you' many times. My sister has always said, and I've never forgotten it, A dog is only as smart as it's owner! And speaking of smart, I have never seen such poor spellers in my life as I see in these comments! Some of them are hilarious!

Anyone know what the outcome was of the incident in which two dogs killed and injured a flock of sheep last year?

Angle biter sounds like a fishing term to me because fishermen are sometimes called anglers. It may refer to the way the fish bites the bait.

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Not all stories end this way... some of these dogs that are out not looking for trouble end up dead. It is the people who truly care about their dogs who suffer. I am all with it.. Bad parenting as well. I have a 2 1/2 year old in which we took in a Pit Bull (Jazmyn). I have always had Pits. They are exceptional dogs if trained correctly, which takes a lot of time and energy, as with any dog. I personally, with all of the experience THAT I DO ACTUALLY HAVE, would still refuse to take in not just one, but two strange adult dogs. Pregnant dogs are the same as women; hormonal.. you could expect any pregnant dog to be grouchy and snappy, some take it better, but regardles. Two strange adult dogs, ABUSED (or so she claimed) woudl be a hazardous situation in my opinion. If they were being abused, then report it.. Shepherds are highly protective dogs, what is to say the shepherd never started the attack?? Protecting his own property.. It is not a reason to excuse the two dogs being loose, but you never leave your dog outside unsupervised for one and for two, no one was there to see it and know what actually happened. I do not think it should have costed these dogs their lives. They shoudl have been taken, given to a reputable rescue that could rehabilitate them or decide if they were too far gone to adopt out... and when adopted out, to responsible, EXPERIENCED homes that could handle this. Something provoked this mess.. They are obviously not extremely dog aggressive or they would have been fighting with each other. They need counselling available for people or some sort of animal course that people must undergo on proper animal behavior and responsible ownership, that is all that this boils down to. I highly doubt these dogs got out through the window in which holds an air conditioning system and the police should be checking into that. For a dog to get out that way, there are definately scratch marks all over the window and AC as well.

Ok people. lets try to look at this a different way. Dogs are animals. Canids to be exact. instinctually they are driven by a very organized set of PACK instincts. We humans too often try to anthopomorphize these animals. "his/her feelings are hurt", "he/she is jealous", "the dog should have known better" etc etc. These are human emotions that just do NOT come into play with canines. Dogs NEVER premeditate a bite or attack. They react to a situation or to a set of situations they have been placed in. The two pits in question, I Guarantee, NEVER looked out their window and said "I just hate that shepherd next door. The next chance we get, lets take him out!" Not being there to witness the situation no one can say for SURE how it played out but it was likely something similar to this: The two pits were out roaming (a human error), they were a PACK. They encountered the Shepherd alone (I am assuming on an unfenced property...another HUMAN error). In the Shepherds mind he is in his territory guarding HIS pack (the humans). I venture to guess that the shepherd's humans had failed on numerous levels to be the DOG'S pack leader, so the dog was inadvetantly placed into that role by his very nature of being. He was approached on his turf by this PACK. The PACK wanted to claim said turf as their own, the shepherd having no other choice (where was his HUMAN pack?????) was put into a position to DEFEND his percieved turf. Instead of submitting to the PACK he took a stance of defense. The PACK by their nature was going to remove the weakest link. Now we could switch this up. This could have been a loan pitbull up against a pack of chihuahuas. The PACK would have likely driven off the "loan wolf". It had nothing to do with the fact they were pitbulls, and everything to do with that were a PACK. Insert any breed into a pack and you have strength in numbers. If those three had met on neutral territory (without the bitch being pregnant or defending puppies) and the single dog had submitted to the PACK, he would have likely JOINED the pack, not been attacked by it. Remember dogs, being pack animals are fiercely loyal to their pack (human or otherwise). That is instinctually how canines have survived for millenia, in a PACK. Humans unfortunatly in most cases are piss poor at being pack leaders, we want to make the DOGS human. Dogs instinctually fall into a "leadership" role, usually unwillingly. Most dogs are not cut out to be pack leaders, therefore become fear aggressive, insucure dominant etc. All of which is NOT ok in dog hardwiring. There needs to be more education for humans on how to READ dog behavior, undestand it, and work WITH it, before you EVER get a dog of ANY breed. I see more aggressive Chihuahuas, rat terriers, poodles, doxi etc. WHY because their humans NEVER let them be DOGS! They are pushed in strollers, carried in bags, dressed in outfits. When would ANY of that happen in nature??? NEVER! These poor dogs are SOOOOOOO messed up by their humans. The same can be said for the larger more powerful breeds. They are messed up by their humans. 90% of the general population should NEVER own a pitbull, rottweiler, shepherd, presa canario, dogo argentino, or any of the other powerful breeds too numerous to mention. if you are not prepared to be a pack leader and understand dog psychology, stick with owning a fish!

OK I am sick of people sitting here talking a bunch of B.S about me and how I should be killed and all that stuff...do all you realize that this is slander and just plain ignorant...you know nothing about me only what you have heard and well just like I said before I do feel incredibly horrible about what happened but I DID take them in because when I talked to the previous owner they told me how badly the dogs were treated and well I am a total animal lover and if I had raised them it would have been different...all I could do was try to teach them what was right and well I don't just have the money to throw out there for all these fines and everything but ya know that doesnt mean I don't have the money to take care of myself or my family so shut the F up about all that...no one takes into consideration for the pups huh? They could have at least had their mother if they would have quarentined Madison at least for a little while but thats okay...thank god for replacement formula! I am sorry but ya know you guys you sit here and bad mouth me clearly love the drama and have nothing better to do...I wasn't home at the time so honestly why am I such a bad owner...once again, you don't even know me and I love animals and yes we were very lucky that the child didnt get bit but ya know what I do have a daughter and they were never aggresive towards her. And as for saying that I didn't care about them just the pups...thats rather humorous because I said that after they did what they did. Just because something happened like this people don't have to sit here and bad mouth me and make threats. I have a family just like a lot of other people and I am going to do what I have to do to take care of it and well the pups were just kinda a bonus actually...and yes I did say that I was going to do the best I could paying for everything but that doesnt mean that its going to be easy. Kind of funny that Madison had previously been bit a couple times by Jack but I never called the cops on them for it...guess I should have tho huh...seems how all this was taken to the media and everything....you people try to make me sound like I am the worst friggin person in the world and I'm sorry but I am not and I only had good intentions and still do...and for the rest of you understanding the situation and speaking your opinion I appreciate the support...and a breed is [retty much the same thing as race...don't be so judgemental people. And how you raise a dog is a good factor of the dogs behavior but ya know there wasn't much I could do without being here...so please people understand I am trying to do the best I can to fix this problem and well the dogs are gone so be done with it...and Jack will heal...

This chica was a stupid 20 year old child! Not a responsible and loving pet owner. All she wanted those dogs for is because the pups would make her money. Not because she wanted the adult dogs to have a good home.

A good breeder, of any breed, cares about temperment, a fact that was lacking here as these dogs do not have the CORRECT temperment for this breed. Look at the AKC and the UKC breed standard. It states that these dogs are NOT to be human agrresive at all!! A properly raised and socialized pittie of any of the bully breeds is not agressive. Any one who thinks these dogs SHOULD be agressive is ignorant of the breed, the standard, and only listens to the media instead of going to responsible breeders for their information.

ANy one with a brain would not breed two aggresive dogs together. But some one here only wanted to make money and cared nothing for standards, or genetics, or anything that a RESPONSIBLE breeder does. ANyone who is fighting these dogs obviously does not have a brain, as dog fighiting is a federal offense, and this is not even what the dogs were ORIGINALLY bred for.

Do some research people, this breed decends from the lines that hunted bears and large wildlife. Back in older times, bears and large predators were a very large saftey issue so people bred these dogs to help them fight and kill these types of animals. They were then ADAPTED to fighting in the pits but not because that is what they do naturally, it is because that is what humans wanted them to do. These dogs do not "kill people or animals" naturally. ANything they do, they do because humans have either taught them to or have not taught them what to do properly. A well trained and socialized dog of any breed is not a safety issue. The issue comes with irresponsible owners of all breeds. An irresponsible owner like this stupid little girl, who can not take care of herself or the litter that she has. WHy are we entrusting ANY dog with her when she can not take care of herself??? She will just go and find another breed to sell the puppies and "make money" (even though proper care of dogs is expensive), the next dogs that she has will not be licensed, vacinated, or healthy, since she wont have the money for it. ANyone who buys a dog, any breed, off scum like this only perpetuates puppy mills and the demise of the breeds.

This is not a pit bull issue, this is a bad owners issue, and I include the people that sold or gave these dogs to her. Poor dogs, they never stood a chance. Not only were they bred wrong, but they had HORRIBLE OWNERS and BREEDERS.

JUDGE THE DEED here people. This could have been any breed, and will more than likely be another breed in the future with this person.

This women(girl) needs help alot of help if she thinks it was wrong to put the dogs to sleep.. How would you felt if the dogs would have bitten the hell out of her child, on the news she said she did this to make money get a job if you have one get another if you think selling pit bulls was your only way to make money like I said you need help.. go and get some I know you must have Insurance because I know I am paying for you to have it..

I would like to respond to the post made by "shannon_71605".

First, its not slander, as anything said here would be a person's opinion, stating your opinion is not illegal.

Next, can you write with correct punctuation, full sentances with no run-ons, correct grammer and no cursing or obscenaties? Writing in the manner you did does nothing to help your image as it makes you look even more uneducated.

Also, a good breeder or responsible pet owner would have done quite a few things different in the beginning of the situation. If these dogs were badly treated then their reactions to things could have been skewed, a good breeder would have done some basic tests to see what their temperment would be in order to determine how safe these dogs were to be trusted around family, friends, and the public. Another thing would have been to think about the cost of owning or "retraining" the animals. You could not pay these fines or pay for them to be euthanized or quarantineed, so obviously you did not take into consideration that these costs would likely be needed nor did you have a rabies done (wether or not the previous owners said the dog had rabies), you also failed to register these dogs as pitbulls (that could have saved you money from the fines right there since anyone could have reported them as pits and sooner or later you would have been fined for it). You failed to properly contain the dogs, if they were in your house while you were gone, they should have been crated or penned somewhere safe, since you knew these dogs had behavioral issues and a problem with the neighbors dog. These dogs should have had professional training, which you could not afford. All in all, you shouls have never owned the dogs, for all your good intentions. Good intentions do not mean that YOU were the correct home for these dogs. The pups should be GIVEN NOT SOLD to people who are aware of the parentage of the pups, which you probably dont have pedigrees for. All of the pups in that litter should be spayed or neutered, to prevent their bad genetics to be passed on, and they should be given to experienced homes or a resucue that can provide for them and properly train them.

And finally, the fact that you state that the puppies were a "kinda a bonus" proves that you are not repsonsible nor good intentioned here. Perhaps in other areas of your life you are a great person. But the fact is that you made some bad and stupid choices that got some dogs hurt, others killed, cost the owners of the other dog and the taxpayers of your county money, and damaged yourself in the end.

You should do the right thing here and do not own any more animals until you can properly care for them, house them, and cover their financial aspects, including any fines that may arise. ALso, if you want to "rescue" animals, why not volunterr at the shelter there? If you want to "breed" find a mentor to teach you the proper way to go about it. I hope for your sake you are not sued over this. I certainly would if I were those people. You may find yourself paying for that other dogs vet bills and their legal costs. Hope you have thought about that while you try to "fix" this problem and be done with it. Since this is going to cost you for a lot longer than you think.

Any dog can be changed the right love & care. My way of putting it is: "you can't change animals, but animals can change." i have a 1 yr. border collie that has 20 acres to run on, & i have seen first hand what happens when you dont have the land to run them on. But on the other hand, that damn owner should have the common sense to know that it's her fault. The dogs should of been under control!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also have another question, was the German Shepherd hurt during the attack?

The shepards back legs were both chewed very badly- the last I had heard he was only able to use one of them, he was chewed under his front legs, he had a big bite on his throat, the back of his neck etc. The dogs owner told me his vet bills were at about 500.00 so far and she had to tak 2 days off from work to stay home and care for him. I guess he is doing much better, but is still in a lot of pain. Like I said I know tis dog and without being biased, because I am an animal lover I know he did not provoke this. I also applaud his owner as she is being very big about this- when I talked to her she said nothing bad about the other dogs except for it was tragic and nothing bad about the owner either- I am mad as heck but she's handling it way better then me!

Rocklandphil, shoot the stray. Too many dogs running around.

"The dogs owner told me his vet bills were at about 500.00 so far and she had to tak 2 days off from work to stay home and care for him. I guess he is doing much better, but is still in a lot of pain."

Sue Lee for this money, as well as missed time at work. if she can't pay now, take it out of her future wages, if the lazy *%^%^% ever gets a job.

WHY IS SHE NOT BEING CHARGED FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY???

Once again I will state that this is a circumstance where the would have been "good deed" turned around and literally bit Miss Lee in the arse. Whether or not she planned to sell the pups or not shouldn't be an issue here. Most people who have dogs that get pregnant do either sell the pups or give them away. The fact that the female pit was a mother would make her more aggressive than normal anyways. In her mind she was protecting her babies. Even humans become more aggressive when it comes to protecting their children, and in some cases it is not only a mistaken aggression, it can turn tragic. The simple fact is that the Media will NOT report on the good of any breed except of course the "hero" dogs who are either rescue dogs or police dogs. And then it is usually the shepherds or the labradors that get the attention. As a matter of fact there are many of these so called "hero" dogs that are pitbulls, English Bulldogs, and many other breeds . How come we never see anything on them? Don't go into a prejudicial fear-filled panic about any rhetoric that the media decides to dish out to you. Unfortunately the old saying of "If it's in print, it must be true" no longer stands under the full light of knowledge. Perhaps Bangor Daily News should do a story on the ENTIRE breed, instead of on just the bad apples. Oh yeah, I forgot....that wouldn't be a good sales builder.

Sounds like an intervention from the "Dog Whisperer" is in order! Cesar Millan, help! Then after that probably Dr Phil should be consulted...

Candy, the issue isnt that she was going to sell the pups, the issue is that she only took the adults so she could "make money" as a "kinda a bonus" All her quotes.

This was not a concerned animal loving "good deed gone bad" this was a get rich quick scam that failed with horrible consequences. That get rich quck went to be broke and poor longer in a very fast manner.

And yes the fact that she was a mother could make her more agressive, but a responsible person would have made provisions for such, keeping her crated or in a secure pen while unsupervised would have alleviated the issue. But that would have cost money and effort, neither of which this person was prepared for.

Lee should have never had the animals in the first place since she did not care for the animals properly, had not one the proper licensing and vacinations (as required by law), and obviously did not take any consideration for the safety and financial aspects of owning these dogs which she knew had behavioral and training problems.

And now she is going to sell thses pups, who have bad tempered parents, to unsuspecting people. These pups need to be sterilized and trained, but what do you want to bet that the majority of these animals go on to breed even more bad tempered pups?? That is why the breed is percieved as bad, because of the bad breeding practices of people like this. She will sell these pups to the highest bidder, will not screen the homes, and their bad temperments will pass on to the next generation of pups that will be in turn labled bad and so on and so on. A responsible breeder would sterilze the whole litter and place them in acceptable screened homes. Not to someone willing to pay the highest price.

To abcollins1..... THE ISSUE HERE IS THE DOG ATTACK, us pet lovers have just gotten off track of the issue by the way the newspaper portrays the animals involved.

No, the issue is never the attack, it should and always will be IRRESPONISBLE OWNERS. People who will not take care of the animals properly are what is wrong.

The attack would never had happened had someone crated or confined the animals properly, and that goes for all involved.

Responsible ownership is what we need, education is what we need, responsible people follow the laws. If there were no laws being broken, and no dogs at large, then the attack could never have happned.

Antecedent - dogs are not properly confined

Behavior - Dogs are able to attack/fight

Consequence - 1 dog hurt, 2 dogs killed, lots of useless money spent

The attack could have been prevented easily.

Why do people neglect to understand that Miss Lee's dogs were inside threir home and the SHEPERD was the one unleashed and running around while the owner's were NOT home. The PITT Bulls went through a window contained by an Air conditioner. FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes ME wonder what Mrs. Babcock really knew for her own FACTS!!!!!!!!!

To abcollins1: The dogs were properly confined. Get it straight, the sheperd was roaming around outside without supervision or any type of confinement. Maybe we all need to go back to the original article and read it again, someone familiar with this situation said that there was an altacation between the dogs earlier in the day, would you go off and leave him roaming around at RISK just to prove your point about leash laws? The pitts were inside , is that totally irresponsible of Miss Lee, since she was not home either? Maybe the person who said the name in Carmel matters is the one who actually hit the nail on the head. Please do not mistake the fact that I do not feel injury was warranted, but let's go back.

Altercation

Ummmm, ok IF the dogs were properly confined, they would not have been able to get out.

IF the dogs were prpoerly confined, then the dog fight would never had happened because they could not have escaped.

Properly confined DOES NOT mean that they were left alone in a house.

Propely confined means that they were in a crated in a safe area or they were housed in a pen that could not have been escaped from, and yes these do exist.

DOgs left alone in a home unsupervised, and uncrated/unpenned are not properly confined.

Given the nature of the animals, which Lee was fully aware of, extra precatuitions should have been taken. IF she REALLY cared for the adult dogs, they would have been separated (based on the fact that the female had puppies not old enough to eat wiithout their mother) and confined to where they could not escape.

They were NOT PROPERLY CONFINED OR they could not have escaped to attack or fight with another dog.

How could there be an altercation on the same day unless both the pits and the shepard were running around unsupervised, unleashed, and not properly confined??

I also stated that all animals involved should have been penned and not unsupervised.

Ummmm, ok IF the dogs were properly confined, they would not have been able to get out.

IF the dogs were prpoerly confined, then the dog fight would never had happened because they could not have escaped.

Properly confined DOES NOT mean that they were left alone in a house.

Propely confined means that they were in a crated in a safe area or they were housed in a pen that could not have been escaped from, and yes these do exist.

DOgs left alone in a home unsupervised, and uncrated/unpenned are not properly confined.

Given the nature of the animals, which Lee was fully aware of, extra precatuitions should have been taken. IF she REALLY cared for the adult dogs, they would have been separated (based on the fact that the female had puppies not old enough to eat wiithout their mother) and confined to where they could not escape.

They were NOT PROPERLY CONFINED OR they could not have escaped to attack or fight with another dog.

How could there be an altercation on the same day unless both the pits and the shepard were running around unsupervised, unleashed, and not properly confined??

I also stated that all animals involved should have been penned and not unsupervised.

Shannon.. for one.. if you were such an animal lover you would not have been using these puppies as a source of income. Does any one remember about three years ago when ACO shot and killed a Pit Bull out in Levant for charging at them?? Well those peopel bred Pit Bull's. Crappy bloodlines, bad temperment, disfigured dogs. Not kidding. Well the dog they shot, earlier that year had gotten into a fight with its father. The owners had the mother, father and son. The mother was in heat, the father and son got into a fight. These two males fought over the female to the point that the father was killed by his own son. The house was torn apart and walls were severely damaged with blood. What is the point of this?? Dogs that were raised together, been together their entire lives and even an offspring.. given the chance, unsupervised, left all alone in a house with no barriers and free roaming.. they fought to death. This could have easily happened here too. I won't let my dogs be all together alone in a home unsupervised. I always took my AC out of the window and locked it when I left so that the dog in that area could not get out. This could have been prevented. I really think that it is a typical case.. german shepherd got frisky, fight broke out, remaining dog stuck up for his mate/friend. And any of us who know dogs, also know that german shepherds do not give up easily. The past four Pit Bull's that I have owned, each one of them woudl roll over on their backs and submit. They did not want to be in a fight. If bit they woudl try to get out of it in any way possible.

Geatnorth, I did call Animal Control. They came over the same day, or next, and already had a history of reports about the dog. The dog does have a home, gets fed (maybe it's premature to assume that), and would be on a leash if not for moronic owners. I have not seen the dog lately. When I do, and that mutt is threatening my wife or our pets, I will shoot it.

If the puppies are raised in a LOVING home they will be loving too....one of the most special dogs I've known was a pit bull named Rosie...she had been abused before my son in law became her master but she was the kindest, most loving dog in the world. She "took care" of her adopted family.. a wonderful addtion to the family...she passed last year. We miss her very much.

I have a question?? I have read a dozen comments that say 'the owners were not home'! If that is true, then where did the daughter come from to break up the dog fight? Or am I the only one that read this and saw it on the news? Must be some pretty strong dogs to knock an air conditioner out of a window or VERY motivated to get out! I can hardly pick mine up. And Orgirl, many of us are still waiting for you to tell us what an angle biter is!!

I have a question?? I have read a dozen comments that say 'the owners were not home'! If that is true, then where did the daughter come from to break up the dog fight? Or am I the only one that read this and saw it on the news? Must be some pretty strong dogs to knock an air conditioner out of a window or VERY motivated to get out! I can hardly pick mine up. And Orgirl, many of us are still waiting for you to tell us what an angle biter is!!

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I know that earlier in the day that the shepard was attacked the owners of the shepard were home and the 9 year old daughter was outside playing with the shepard. Ms. Lee was not home and hadn't been all night according to her mother who showed up at Lee's house(owned by her mother) the mother let the dogs out who immediately ran to the neighbors property and attacked the shepard, while the 9 year old girl climbed atop of a picnic table to get out of harms way. 2 adult males came from Lees property to break up that altercation. It was witnessed by many on both sides of the property that the shepard did not step even close to the property line or provoke the pitbulls. The ACO was called and Lee said the dogs would be gone that night rather then be issued the summonses that the ACO said were going to be issued. The owner of the shepard didn't even think that the pitbulls would be at Lees the night that the mauling happened as Lee had assured them the dogs would be gone. Maybe it does have to do with names in Carmel- the ones who work to support themselves and the ones who live on the state. There is no point in the shepards owners suing Lee- she doesn't work and chances are never will, so not only will they not get their money back, but will continue to support Lee while she lives on the state for the rest of her life.

For one people do not own dogs usually for their personality they own their dog because they like the looks of them! With any dog you never know when it can attack even if you think you have the kindest dog and it's never bit anyone something can set it off and turn it to bite whether it is protecting itself or its owner. Some people give pitbulls a bad name because they fight but you can do this with any dog not just pitbulls, it is all how you train and bring your dog up. I don't think she should have to pay all the fines she is having to pay that's just the town or state trying to get more money from someone. I do think she should have to pay the owner of the other dog for any costs or damages. And also anyone who thinks someone who owns a pitbull and has a child should be reported to DHS you live a very sheltered life and need to get out of the woods and out of Maine and explore the real world. It's people like you who give these dogs a bad name! The only dog I have ever been bit by was a Maltese a little ankle biter with razor sharp teeth that cut right into me so I guess these dogs are soooo dangerous also?! Maybe it was just that dog huh?!

http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-statistics-fatalities.htm ... so I guess the statistics are wrong about pit bulls? Cuz I don't see any shih-tzu's on these lists!!!

Oh ya, and is it just me, or does it seem like it's the same types of people who own these dogs? i.e. Lee/lower class.

Oh ya, and is it just me, or does it seem like it's the same types of people who own these dogs? i.e. Lee/lower class.

Knine620,

It is not only lower class that owns these dogs, I have several, My husband is military (and will likely retire, thats 20 years) and I have a job as well. We both make decent money, and we show and compete with our dogs in agility, obedience, and conformation. Our dogs are highly trained and wonderful pets. They came from responsible breeders, who bred them for temperment and conformation and their pedigrees are long and known. We health test all of our dogs, and it is not cheap to do so. We do OFA hips, cardio, thyroid, and patellas, we also have our dogs checked by a cardioligist and do an echocardiogram. We also run the hips through PennHip and we have just started to test the dogs genetically for Ataxia, because that test just became available to the public this month. And all but one of our dogs is tested by the American Temperment Society, and we imported him where he was tested by the MAGS system. We also do not scrimp on vets, since we have three that we work with, one for regular visits, one for emergencies, and one that understands the breed. We do this to ensure our dogs are healthy, with a great temperment, and that we are not going to breed bad genetics in the breed. We also compete in LEGAL events which our dogs love. We spend a ton of time together training and as family pets. Our dogs are around our children, they are not agressinve, they are well fed, well bred, well trained, and they are confined properly when no supervision is available. By the way, we dont just do this because they are pits, this was also the program I had when we were showing beagles

It is just people like this that give the breed a bad name because it is irresponsible ownership. The dogs should have been properly contained, since the owners knew of the behavioral issues, they should not have been left in a house alone and not in a secured area (a crate or a pen). The whole situation is simply due to irresponsibility of someone owning dogs that they had no training, facilities, or means to care for, especially since everyone was aware of the behaviorl and training issues. They wanted to make money off the dogs, and that was all.

and not everything on the net is true, look at the name of the site you quoted dogsbite.org, that does not sound like a very scientific or unbiased place to me. I doubt there statistics are even accurate but rather skewed to meet their own agenda.

yillda, the owner of the shephard was home, and he has run outside not tied for his whole life. He was attacked on his own porch, I've seen pictures of the blood from him on there. It was not his fault he was attacked, HE WAS ON HIS OWN PORCH!

Kinnie, ok so im not going to lie, your an idiot, how can you say a certain breed of dogs are more likely to be raised and owned by a lower class citizen. Michael Vick....yes very poor, and second pit bulls are a very expensive breed of dogs. But your argument makes sense, if your 13 live with your mom and have only owned a goldfish.

Why should pit bulls be treated biastly. Please tell me this. Ive seen the same point pushed upon other dogs as well such as a german shepard, or even a golden retreiver. You assume that a simple movie such as disneys version of Air bud, Lassie, or even the Ol yeller, will rule out these breed of dogs from being bad. These dogs have just as much as a chance to attack another dog.

Dogs do not just run around look for other dogs to fight, hurt or even kill. Im sure there is a reason for the actions that had happened.

Louise, im assuming in your argument, you dont mean the dogs picked up the air conditioner, i have a feeling when you put a air conditioner in a window, when you open that window approx a inch in any direction the air conditioner could fall out. As for the neighbors being home or not, their dog is never on a leash, so who is to say the dog never entered the Lee's property? Do the neighbors, watch the dog all day every day? If that was the case why was the daughter outside, or why was this altercation broke up by 2 males from the Lee's residence. As for spelling and grammar, are we writing a essay on foriegn politics, or a resume for a medical doctor. We are doing neither of these, we are simply stating our opinions and apparely expressing out biast about dogs, owners, breeders, killers and such!

Ab collins, you must be stupid, your right everyone who owns a animal should sit at home or transport their animal wherever they might go during the course of the day, that makes 100% sense. When parents leave the house and their 17 year old son or daughter is at the house, could this not be as risky as leaving a well treated dog at the house, or should we lock our kids up as well? Ill make sure to advise them they have to stay in a cage, or even locked in a 7th story floor, and ill make sure to lock the windows before i leave my house in the middle of nowhere in CARMEL MAINE, you have got to be kidding just incase my dogs happen to decide its too cold in the house and push the air conditioner out the window. You have got to be kidding me, please enlighten me!...Breeding is just as much of a job as a doctor, or even a police officer. But yes pitbulls and rotwilers, and other CRAZY KILLER DOGS should just be banned. Thats good thinking....Why dont we just ban PeurtoRicans cause they "SELL DRUGS", or african americans because they fill more then 60% of the jails in america. 1 of 3 african american citizens are arrested and convicted at some point in their lives, but why dont we just ban them from AMERICA as well. If you have a problem with paying her bills because she is a single mother, why dont you VOTE for mcain, or even run for president yourself, ban illegal aliens from entering and collecting unemployment in the great US of A.

Also, Roaming without a leash is against the law, so should we fine the neighbors as well, and if these neighbors where not home why exactly was the daughter outside? Ill reccommend we cage the daughter in case she gets into a bitch fight with one of the girls at her elementary school. I do not believe in animal cruelty but, i do belive, the "barbaric term", "eye for an eye". The neighbors dog faught back correct? Did it roll over and say uncle? No it stayed and faught, but your right the neighbors dog has no aggression. What happened if the neighbors dog bit Lee, a guest, or even her child? No double standard here people?

People buy and sell dogs daily, how else do you get them? Are people supposed to go around and pick all dogs from homeless shelters? No!!!! absoloutley not. People breed dogs for shows, money and personal preference. But your right!

MY2CentsinCarmel + Candy!- Finally someone with some common sense. Not only do you point out that its not correct what happened but yet, you side with the owner and the fact people become even more protective when children are involved. I agree 100% with everything you said. Any dog is dangerous, or any animal at that, all have a way of defense and a way of enflicting pain upon another person or animal.

SteevyDee, why dont we just shoot the homeless too? Not only are there too many of THEM running around, you treat them worse then the people who beat their dogs. SMART, as for Rockland Phil., call ANIMAL CONTROL that would be their job. Shooting dogs is not yours, im guessing. Im guessing that would be animal cruelty, or am i wrong?

SpecialED, you picked that name in total confidence, you my friend are the biggest idiot of the whole crew! Good luck, start school again, and this time take real classes, stop cocking your head to one side and drooling.

As for all this stated, lets lock up all the minorities, children, or even better lets just shoot everyone...seems logical...Wow..

He is heeling good it was to bad but hes ok