"...actions that we would consider to be an abdication of our responsibility to keep the residents of Maine informed about what is happening in their state." Isn't shutting down coverage area transmitters also an abdication of this self-proclaimed responsibility?

The picture painted in this article by Mr. Morse gives the impression that MPBN is slowly on its way out of existence. Years of cutbacks and other reductions and continued lose of fundraising revenues brings into question MPBN's relevance in the current day broadcast world. Maybe their time has passed?

The airwaves are full of alternatives. Surely there must be other options for delivering the Emergency Alert System messages?

It looks like the people of Maine and their government have spoken...MPBN is not worth watching, listening to or paying for...any longer.

Public broadcasting is a public trust. The signal should be broadcast throughout the state, and the legislature should support this. That said, the station has made several questionable expansionary moves in recent years despite flat funding from the state legislature, and more than a few poor decisions re programming and ad revenue. Thousands of listeners and underwriters stopped contributing when they fired the humble farmer more than a year ago. Many stopped contributing once the station began accepting ads from Plum Creek and Fair Point--and where is the support from those corporations now that they've had their way? My suggestion is to cut way back on public television--it is losing viewers steadily, both in Maine and nationally--and increase support for radio, which is gaining listeners. Last summer's Maine public radio pledge drive netted $200,000 which is almost three times what they were getting a few years ago. That should say something about the Maine public's interest in public radio. But the decision to shut down in Washington and parts of Aroostook Counties is also very short-sighted: does Mr. Morse think people in these counties are going to continue to contribute money to the station? Getting rid of those transmitters is a little like the man who sprains his ankle and then has the doctor cut off his foot because it hurts to walk.

If these are cost cutting measures - why does MPBN still employ 6 full time Vice Presidents and a CEO who collectively cost well over a half million dollars a year in pledge money ?

I was a loyal supporter of MPBN for years. Then the humble Farmer incident happened, and that show was canceled. I wrote several protests at the time, but the affair was never acknowledged by MPBN (I did get a canned form letter). I suspect there are many more like me. Maybe they should come clean on what happened with the humble Farmer?

I get my news from the internet. The only reason I listen to MPBN is for the uniquely Maine-flavored broadcasting like Made and Maine and the Humble Farmer. So sorry to have these shows off the air, as I miss their character.

I attended the "Town Meeting" called by MPBN at Colby College on December 15th. Most of those in attendance were not happy with MPBN's choice of programming. Negative comments were ahead of positive comments at a rate of four to one. There were multiple comments about the Humble Farmer being dropped.

These comments came from the friends of MPBN who were not happy with the right-wing direction in which public broadcast and TV are heading. From reading David Morse's letter, it appears that MPBN's CEO and vice-presidents did not listen very well at the town meeing. To even suggest that such a presentation was a town meeing was an insult to Maine Democracy. In Maine, the people of the community tell the 'leaders' what they are to do. Not the other way around.

One final observation. The next day, the Morning Sentinel published a brief budget account of MPBN for the past four years. The numbers show that as MPBN's revenues dropped, corporate donations were on the rise. One might be led to believe that MPBN now owes their alliegance to the corporations rather than the people of Maine.

I am one of hundreds, I am sure, who has stopped donating to MPBN in response to its censorship of the Humble Farmer. We will not resume our financial support until the Humble Farmer returns without censorship. When will MPBN acknowledge that this protest is a principal reason if not the sole reason for its financial difficulties? If MPBN has a legitimate concern, I fail to see why it can include a disclaimer for some broadcasts, that the views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of MPBN etc., but it refused to do so for the Humble Farmer, and instead canceled the show altogether, in complete disregard for the views and concerns and preferences of its (former) contributors.

-Greg McCullough, attorney,

Sanford, Maine

If the humble Farmer weren't censored off MPBN, they wouldn't need these cuts. 8,000 folks quit after he was removed for not agreeing to sign a loyalty oath. Here is another example of how the Republican takeover of "public" radio engendered by the Bush administration has changed the programming available to listeners nationwide and in Maine. Their goal was always to end public radio because the audience was informed, intelligent and voted. By dumbing down the content and removing anybody with an analytical perspective, they have furthered their assault. If the newspapers die and public radio is quieted, all that is left will be a disparate and uniformed citizenship, the antithesis of the constitutional objective of the First Amendment.

The BDN would be remiss in their obligation to their readers to not do an in depth story about the way MPBN is being mismanaged into the ground by the management who are bleeding over $500,000 a year into their own pockets....

The Humble Farmer was doing his excellent show out of sheer love for jazz music and the people of Maine, and for $35 a year! The management at MPBN shows an arrogance and a contempt for free speech that is nothing short of appaling.

Fire the management and see if ten thousand people pull their support in protest.

I'd love to see a class action suit brought against the managements assets by the People of Maine, particularly those that have lost their signal because of the unconscianable actions of these "people".

David Morse wrote "MPBN has covered the state's funding shortfall for years by reducing locally produced programming" which is unmittigated BS. I'm guessing the decision to censor The Humble Farmer has already cost the MPBN $1,000,000. Mr. Morse deserves about $35 a year.

After the humble Farmer was canceled om MPBN a friend of mine, who had been a very loyal supporter for many years asked me to email l the station and register her complaints. I did so and only received a copy of the press release that they had made to the newspapers. I called the station and received no suggestion that they were in any way interested in my friend''s or my objections or wishes. My friend had sent a lot of money to MPBN. and now sends none. I was going to rejoin and did not. If you require on air entertainment to sign a loyalty pledge you are advancing your own political agenda and showing disrespect for your listeners' ability to make up their own minds. Smothers brothers revisited. I suggest that MPBN ask present and former listeners whether they would be interested in re-joining if humble Farmer returns and the loyalty pledge is rescinded. I would. My friend would. There's lot's more out there. It's your turn MPBN

Those who miss laughing at my dry, surrealistic commentary might find an acceptable substitute in MPBN press releases.

The humble Farmer

"MPBN" used to mean "Maine Public Broadcasting Network".

What part of "Maine" do they not understand? Shutting down service in Washington and Aroostook Counties means they are no longer interested in "Maine". Unless their "Maine" means Southern Maine.

What part of "Public" do they not understand? With State of Maine and Federal Government tax money support for their corporation they should be interested in what the "Public" really wants. Instead, MPBN has a long tradition of telling the "Public" what we want (ie: "news and public affairs", "classical music", etc.). Their push to provide only "news and public affairs" denies the people of Maine (and especially the kids!) education, high-school basketball, Maine cultural events, uniquely Maine radio (ie: Humble Farmer), Uniquely maine Television (ie: made in Maine, Maine Experience, etc.), etc., etc.. Also, there's a lot of great Maine-Made programming available by many young independent Maine filmmakers and producers who do not have any where to show their programs.

What part of "Broadcasting" do they not understand? "Broadcasting" uses radio and television signals to reach the mass audience. MPBN's push is to use the Internet (how do I receive Internet Radio while I'm driving in my car?). I do agree the Internet is a good supplement in this techno world for the younger folks who have time and money to buy the services and equipment, but it's not a "broadcast" medium available to everyone at this time.

What part of "Network" do they not understand? "Network" is an arrangement of several transmitters located in different parts of the State of Maine in order to reach the people of the State of Maine. By shutting down sites in Washington and Aroostook Counties, the network is compromised and no longer effective in serving the entire State of Maine.

Perhaps their best plans for the future is to bring in a management team who understands what "MPBN" really was meant to be---What MPBN used to be. The new team will still have budget problems, for sure, but at least they can return MPBN back to the "Public" and the "Public" will respond with their financial and moral support.

MPBN"s current management seems bent on sapping the character and essence from the television and radio stations. I say relieve us of these hacks now and let them go to work for plumb creek. Let's clean house and give the keys to real people with passion and vision so that we can all thrive.

billmoores' comments were simple and mean-spirited. mpbn is inimitable, great and good. their management does like to play mum with us and they need to correct that if they are to keep up their revenue. the humble farmer was a more popular program than probably they or we knew. it is the only radio shpw on their line-up that i would try not to miss on a regular [friday] basis. the 'farmer' was getting a little rusty tho and his 'love of jazz' seemed not to extend too much farther than django and "gahnah". some of mr. skoglund's commentswere a little hard to support. i winced more than once at those directed "the almost perfect woman's" way. a nearly identical program is needed and management must find ways to support it. and if a new host is chosen and he is given over $35 a year - an identical amount should be given mr. skoglund for his 'retirement package.' last, i don't think the station should cut constituents anywhere in the state. mpbn's public is the citizens of all maine and some necessarily cost more than others.

the auto makers didn't get it;mpbn doesn't get it either.i do believe that M stands for maine,and that means "nonessential programs such as “Made in Maine” and “Maine Experience” ould be considered a part of the mission of maine pbs,the $35 ost of the humle farmer did more for thr core mission than the high paid administration.stop searching for others to blame and do consider a mission for mainepbs that includes the humble farmer-it might your improve your fundraising and your standing in thre maine community.

As a long-time listener and occasional contributor to MPBN, I have been keenly disappointed by its flimsy rationale for booting out the Humble Farmer. The Program Manager said he was "controversial". Well, come on. I tend to think his real offense was to be a genuine grassroots Maine humorist, a bit too dry to suit the people in charge. After this error has been corrected, I will again look kindly on the financial needs of the network/

Maine Public Broadcasting Network

Really?

"We also recently stopped producing nonessential programs such as “Made in Maine” and “Maine Experience”– shows that were popular with our audience, but unrelated to our core mission of covering news and public affairs."

Reality check. Your core mission is serving your audience (the Maine Public), competently interacting with, and positively responding to their needs. Your corporate agenda of "covering news and public affairs" is secondary. Failing to understand this is how you have gone wrong.

Public first, corporate agenda second. You have failed to listen to the Maine Public and your legislators regarding the humble Farmer. It has cost you dearly. Yes, I received your canned responses too. You have not listened to me so I stopped listening to you.

Jennifer Rooks is OK guess, but y'know, she is not from Maine. The real Mainers are getting taken off the air.

Steve4, I get that you probably work for MPBN. There was not a mean spirited word in billmoores comments.

"a nearly identical program is needed and management must find ways to support it."

So why don't we just take Mr. Skoglund's format, his ideas, and "flavor" and reproduce it in a way that is more "acceptable". ???

Two things. First, Mr. Skoglund is unique and cannot be replaced. Second, it is intellectual property theft, and as such, is stealing. That would not impress the Maine Public. For that, and for your lack of imagination you should be profoundly embarrassed. Placing decorum before honesty quickly results in dishonesty.

We want humble back and not some cheesy replacement. You might try listening for a change.

So here is what I don't understand. When " The Humble Farmer" was thrown under the bus contributions decreased. Then why didn't the people who insisted that Humble be terminated show their gratitude by increasing their contributions? Could it be the same people who demand lower taxes on the rich are the same people who threw Humble under the bus? Besides being greedy I guess they are cheap.

It's a real shame that MPBN is having so many financial difficulties that signal towers will be switched off to a large and already isolated geographic portion of our state. I would not like to go through my day without public radio, which provides an invaluable service. I think there is a way out for Mr. Morse and the Beck-Dowe MPBN management team short of turning off MPBN radio reception to part of the listening public. It's a solution that would make many of us really happy: Restore the humble Farmer humor and jazz show produced by Robert Skoglund, who for over thirty years provided -- for free -- a true Maine voice on our public radio airwaves. By reinstating the humble Farmer show, MPBN would be guaranteed an immediate influx of at least $180,000 from those of us who sat (and still sit) on our wallets after the show's producer, Robert Skoglund, was wrongly censored, and then booted from MPBN in June, 2007. In one simple act, the signal tower generation at Fort Kent and Calais could be restored for the next six months, thousands of us former contributors would return as solid supporters, and there would be no financial difficulty we couldn't see through together in the future. But this would mean Mr. Morse's management team would have to eat some humble pie.

It is quite unfortunate that David Morse, MPBN’s vice president for advancement and new media, wrote this article. I think the article is counter productive and serves only to call attention to MPBN's failing mission. It would have been better for MPBN if the article had not been published. Being "vice president for advancement and new media", you would think that Mr. Morse would be positive and upbeat. You would imagine that he would be promoting MPBN's qualities and their advancing efforts to be the best broadcasting service in existence. Instead we get a list of failures. Mainely, a list of failures to connect with its audience and to convince legislators of its worth. Yes, I think that Mr. Morse has performed a great dis-service to his company by writing this poorly thought out letter. Just one more reason to question MPBN's capacity for survival.

humble is gone. halle-freakin'-lujah!

Yeah, you know, I don't really miss Humble Farmer all that much - just another elitist smart-ass making sport of Mainers.

i love it...read the above posts and watch the estimates of money "lost" rise from 180 K to 300 K to over a million dollars!! HA HA HA HA!!! Too bad the BDN doesn't take a page from Wikipedia, which deleted humble's overly boastful entry about himself. The reason given? "Blatant advertising." Apparently the same rules don't apply here, where humble can submit posts about himself under 30 different names and then claim "popular" support. Evidently with a straight face, skoglund called himself "an icon of the New England intelligentsia." Wow. What kind of bloated windbag says of himself: "wicked smahht people bow down before me and worship my superior intelligence, which they know dwarfs their own?"

Does anyone bother to ask ol' skoggie why he was ok with signing a "loyalty oath" back in 1992, but suddenly has a philosophic aversion to such a thing? Of course not, since that would ruin his carefully constructed victim narrative. And do people ask themselves why, if his was "the greatest show ever produced by MPBN," other stations, known for their competitive nature in a cut-throat business, don't immediately sign up the skogulator for a six figure sum? Money well-spent, right? I mean, if $180 K would come "immediately" flowing to MPBN if he were to return, then SURELY some entrepreneurial program director somewhere would snap him up and take that money himself. Who could say no to $180 K (or $300 K or $1,000,000 or whatever figure he pulls out of thin air)? WERU could put him on and make $180 K -- so why don't they? I suspect it's because they know he's a loon as well...

Hey humble...that $23 million NPR is short -- is that a reflection of popular discontent about you, too? Maybe they could put you on NPR and close that $23 million dollar deficit and gain back the 87 billion listeners -- more than 12 times the world's population, that's how popular you are! -- that they lost when MPBN got rid of you.

Such vitriol from gohabsgo, directed at the humble farmer! And in such detail! Gohabsgo doth protest too much, his anger masquerading as humor. I suspect this writer inhabits MPBN. Could gohabsgo be one of those six-figure station execs and humble-haters who got humble fired, masquerading here as a Canadiens hockey fan? Incroyable! Bring back "ol' skoggie" and let him take that 5% pay cut like the rest of the peons. Lessee, 5% of his former weekly MPBN pay of $30 is a buck and a half. Pretty humble.

Gohabsgo claims humble has a carefully constructed "victim narrative?" Hmm. What about MPBN's carefully laid trap that got humble fired? For if humble actually "was ok with signing a loyalty oath back in 1992," as gohabsgo says he was, then why ask him to sign another one? Not unless the MPBN brass figured he'd changed his mind and couldn't sign a new one, which would mean they had their pretext. So they trotted it out, and sure enough he refused to sign it, and they canned him. And here is MPBN's carefully constructed don't-blame-us narrative: "What else could we do?... such a tragedy... he did it to himself, really, by not signing..." Incredible.

Lemmings like “horace” and his ilk all parrot identical talking points, uncannily cited as consistently as if skoglund himself had written them, and he assumes that these of course must be spontaneous outpourings of support for humble, in no way manufactured (and curiously appearing many days after the article appeared, i can’t help but notice). nope, not orchestrated by humble in the slightest....see, only humble's kool-aid sipping supporters know any details about his quandary, while people like myself who thought his show was a waste of an hour of radio only work at mpbn. i have a bridge to sell you, horace, along with some swampland in florida. newsflash, lots and lots of us were happy to not have to listen to his inane rants anymore (although we do suspect it was merely because we weren't sophisticated enough to understand his fiendishly clever cow poop jokes). i’d like to see someone address that question: why hasn't some other broadcaster availed itself of the opportunity to greatly enrich its owners by signing humble to a fat radio contract? wouldn't it delight skoglund to no end knowing that he was making more than all those grossly overpaid execs he disparages with such hateful vitriol, and that money that could have flowed into mpbn's coffers instead went to another more deserving station with more enlightened management? don't tell me he wouldn't take it if offered.

i would think someone with skoglund's inflated ego would get a big kick out of such an ironic development. the simple truth is that no one would want that buffoon on their station. why hasn't weru given him a show, or wmpg in portland? why hasn't new hampshire public radio, or vermont public radio -- or dare I say it, the evil corporate radio conglomerates who control all thought in america -- rushed to take advantage of such an obvious "blunder" by mpbn?

whe in doubt,change the subject,when the problem is not in focus,skoglund is not the issue.itis the avalier denial of servie to an undeserved segment of maine population-it's only for six months,so let them eat cake, cut poortlsnd. since they an get boston,etc,glossy documents,well paid administrators with impresive titles do not hide the tawdrinnes of programing tha onsists for tthe bulk of reruns and soft and comfortable programming available in variants on cpmmerial and cable tv.content to be watcthed or liistened to need to have substance and some inteletual rigor that no ammount of special effets or gratuitous music wiil replace.mpbn is a orporation that like the auto industry knows what is best for us and a focus groups all they need for that it was a good experiment,but...

appologies for the typos;tehnological failure of the keyboard

My wife and I planned our Friday evenings for years around that cantankerous old fool, Humble, and felt compelled to pause in our memberships since he disappeared. We do not object to someone NOT listening to him and being so inflated with their inner gases as to spew vindictives personally against him on this forum since it amounts to less than teapot's spray. Besides, their form displays enough that one can see they would be low "C" 's in a freshman writing course. Speaking for my wife of 40 years, I can safely describe our enjoyment of Humble's hour each week as a time of surprises and sometimes puzzelments. One did not want to "listen too fast" to his words as that would fault you on understanding his sometimes brilliance. If Humble were to return to his Friday night slot, I know our double membership would come in each pledge drive. However, one positive this year: since Humble was not on, we gave so much more to the Obama campaign.

Writer vwnewman makes several good points about the cavalier denial of service to an under-served population in the latest MPBN cutbacks. But that same station attitude makes discussion here of Robert Skoglund’s “humble Farmer” all the more relevant. Just as audiences in Fort Kent and Calais have been cut out without a say, another very important part of MPBN’s listenership was disenfranchised without appeal over a year ago when MPBN fired “humble” and ignored the spinback.

Furthermore, gohabsgo and beelzebub, both MPBN shills (and clearly the same writer) have used this space to swiftboat Skoglund, and to vilify his supporters, distracting the reader from the real issue that vwnewman and others have focused on -- the poor judgment, mismanagement, and lack of accountability at MPBN for diminished funding and service cutbacks. These comments should not go unchallenged because they reflect the same mentality that led to Northern Maine’s current radio-less status.

By ridiculing the humble Farmer’s former donor/supporters as “koolaid drinking lemmings,” and by piling on red herring arguments and unprovable highly detailed allegations beside outright lies about Skoglund in this space, gohabsgo, aka beelzebub, has engaged in character assassination worthy only of hate talk radio. So much invented invective gives too much power to “Skogs,” and could only come from a very defensive MPBN management trying to justify its Skoglund firing and resulting loss of revenue.

The figure publicly cited by “Skog supporters” of $180,000 annual revenue loss for the station due to the firing, didn’t get pulled out of a hat. It came directly from MPBN fundraisers themselves who personally handled the hundreds of protest calls, letters and emails from angry listeners canceling their subscriptions, and then tallied the total dollar loss represented by those cancellations. It’s in writing to the Maine state legislature, along with hundreds of letters of support, representing thousands of listeners and even underwriters who withdrew their funding of the station after it canned humble’s show. Gohabsgo asks “who could say no to $180,000?” MPBN management could and did.

That other stations didn’t “grab him up” after his firing is the biggest red herring of all. Beelzebub knows that Robert Skoglund is not for sale, and what he has to offer can’t be bought on a piecemeal, for-profit basis. It takes decades to build up a loyal, dues-paying audience -- one that humble’s show commanded. For over 30 years, Skoglund donated his services free to MPBN and the people of Maine, generating annual donor income for the station and good will for the state of Maine. But management just threw Skoglund, his supporters, and all that good will away. Poof. We’re gone without appeal--just like Ft. Kent and Calais today.

To imagine NH or VT Public Radio giving Skoglund a new home (as beelzebub sarcastically suggests) is equally absurd. Skoglund is a quintessential Maine personality. Like the Emergency Alert System, there is no other statewide Maine network other than MPBN that could or should host his show. It is the right place for a true Maine state treasure whose humor and persona are so thoroughly Maine centered and derived. (Would you offer our lobster to Vermont as its new state symbol??)

If MPBN was truly accountable as an organization, its management would have been fired long ago. But alas, they are responsible to no one, not even state taxpayers who give them more than $2 million a year. Like Congress with the big three auto companies, the Maine state legislature shouldn’t give MPBN another dime until management is changed and the business plan of the station results in the re-instatement of Skoglund, and a new, listener-friendly product is created.

waxwings, u been flyin' too close to the sun...where to start? this is funner than shooting fish in a barrell...

You write "To imagine NH or VT Public Radio giving Skoglund a new home (as beelzebub sarcastically suggests) is equally absurd. Skoglund is a quintessential Maine personality." Really, now? So why does he do a show in Miami? Is he "quintessentially South Beach" as well?? And u didn't answer other Maine stations haven't picked him up, whether non-profit or not, when they so easily could. (Would you suggest the palm tree as Maine's new state symbol)? The only thing absurd are your numerous posts all under different names and your submissions of Skoglund-authored whining.

We native, year-round Mainers have names for people like humble who live six months a year in FLorida: we call them "summer people."

You write: "Beelzebub knows that Robert Skoglund is not for sale, and what he has to offer can’t be bought on a piecemeal, for-profit basis." again, I have a bridge to sell you. That gasbag would work for anyone with two nickels to pay him.

You write: "beelzebub, both MPBN shills (and clearly the same writer)" wrong again...if there are duplicate authors in this forum, it is waxwings, horace, SoPoMe and every other person under whose name humble submits a post. and talk about "shills," humble takes the cake on that one...

You write: "The figure publicly cited by “Skog supporters” of $180,000 annual revenue loss for the station due to the firing, didn’t get pulled out of a hat." OK, so you pulled it out of your butt instead of a hat. I'll give you that one. However, you are either grossly misinformed, or an out and out liar (my money's on the latter). Cite your source or admit you don't have one. You don't because you can't. Despite your statement that "It came directly from MPBN fundraisers themselves," you don't cite one because no such person exists. See, journalism 101 posits that when you make wild exaggerated claim, you should back it up with facts, or cite the person who made the claim. Those who don't are usually named Limbaugh or Hannity...

Go ahead, waxwings, your turn...then mine, then yours, then mine again. this is FUN!! put the dixie cup down, and back slowly away from the kool-aid. the only people being swiftboated are the good people at MPBN (I know some of them too) by humble's out and out bovine droppings.

For beelzebub. I must say I am saddened that the economic situation has caused the MPBN members such an inconvenience as loss of stations and operating hours. Many members stuck their necks out a long way over the years to finance the best of the establishment that MPBN became. That includes people like me who lost their jobs in past times and just before voluntarily surrendering my Visa made a membership pledge, not having a single dollar of income from a paying job. I even worked to raise funds for MPR and finding my hearing loss too great to man the phone banks, I left as not to cause any loss of funding from a "non-performer".

Since that 1993 effort, I funded MPR and MPBN to the best of my ability and even asked for company matched funding which in effect, doubled the contribution. From Robert J, to Elena and on to Suzanne, I was there for them all, proud and supporting until the Board decided to enact a "Humble Farmer Rule" in effect to either get rid of an elder statesman of radio with a specifically designed retroactive rule, to shut him up or get rid of him, without the bright spotlight of "age discrimination". More than 28 years (February 5th is my 30 year anniversary of my arrival in Maine) of doing the same routines that we still love today. I may not be a Mainer by birth, but I stand by my friends and would have stood by you if you had any chance of being right. In all these years nothing that Humble has said was near as blatant as what Robert J said so many years ago. Yet you waited two decades to write up a remedy for it. What a fool your staff is made out to be. It truly pains me to see those who I consider my remaining friends at MPBN treated this way.

Your losses by non-renewed and canceled memberships, apparently has weighed heavily on you with the hundreds and thousands of dollars provided by people like me has been evaporating over these few years. After burning bridges, you find yourself reaching for lifelines and there are only Humble and his supporters standing between you and safety. We could pay you in advance waiting for the product, but that is like hiring an on-line contractor to remodel your house

Now, after yanking Humble off the air, you announce cuts to loyal members in some veiled way to say to imply that we have not supported you enough!

In Japan of old there was a ritual for disgrace, that has been replaced in these modern times by various forms of honor such as resignation, refusing pay, or firing the ones who's hands are stained with dishonor in this case, yet I still see the names of those that I can no longer support still etched into your website.

I don't want a written answer, I want action and mending fences, yet there is a stump in the way that is too ominous to remain in good faith. Yes, I believe in faith! It is central to who we are. Yet, I have seen those who possess it only as a tool for leverage for personal gain. Just saying, "Trust me!" is not good enough. It is up to you to initiate the moves. Honest action goes a long way towards restoring that trust!

Larry of Lewiston