BANGOR, Maine — Tempers apparently flared about 3 p.m. Saturday on Essex Street, resulting in a minor accident that Bangor police attributed to road rage.
Sheila Rines, 53, of Glenburn was summoned for not having a current insurance card and improper passing after she passed a car driven by Richard Frappier, 29, of Carmel and struck the driver’s side of his car, police said.
Frappier told police that he felt Rines was following him too closely in her 2007 Chevrolet Trailblazer, according to a press release issued Monday by Bangor police. He asked his female passenger to yell outside her window to get Rines “to back off.”
Rines told police she was scared by the comments being yelled at her and decided to pass Frappier to get away from him. In doing that, she slightly bent Frappier’s side-view mirror and scraped the driver’s car door, police said. (Judy Harrison, BDN)
shaking my head….
Scary comments.
Why didn’t Frappier just give the brakes a tap or two? Believe it or not, that often works.
The emergency brake works better.
Better for you to get rear-ended. Just let the person pass you.
surely does. either they plow up your rear, or in most cases they back way off!!
Better yet…just pull over and let the person pass you. You’re compounding the problem by doing what you said.
Even better than that, give the people in front of you some spaced and do not tailgate.
I didn’t because I think that is insurance fraud and it probably is almost never caught because of ridiculous tales of cats and ghosts crossing and phantom potholes. I am not “down” with that.
It’s also called insurance fraud. We left the scene before srines with no tickets and no summons. Why ? Simple, we didn’t do anything wrong.
At least no one was hurt. Grow up will ya people. She could have slowed down turned somewhere. the other ca did not have to yell.
I could not hear what she was saying or see if
her lips were even moving. Also why would I try to damage my vehicle when I
had just purchased it the day before and his vehicle had several colors of
paint?
well you know How Bangor daily is they need to make A story.
okay, after reading “the rest of the story” sounds like this guy and his girl were being childish and trying to make something out of nothing. Glad I don’t drive on Essex Street anymore.
sounds like he tried to block you from passing and hit you by accident.
Why didn’t she just pull over and stop for 15 seconds if she wanted to get away from him?
Dumb move.
you are right it was a dumb move- but at the time all I could think of was getting away
It makes it much easier for them to follow you, if you are in the lead.
then slow down, or stop.
And catch up to the slow moving vehicle seconds after starting to drive agian?
ya thats a great idea if your scared for your life so some guy on bath salts can come back and kill you! YA JUST WAIT THERE!
If you were scared and trying to get away, Why did you crowd the guy close enough to hit him? I’m assuming where he didn’t get charged with anything that you were in his lane when passing him. The road is plenty wide enough for two cars to be side by side. I’ll bet we hear more from you now that the cops know how angry you are while driving. Good luck trying the old ” I was scared” story next time. Boo hoo hoo. Sounds to me that you are ones of those people who think your time is more important than theirs. How did that work for you getting home an hour late. I really have to ask? Was it worth it?
If you are the mature adult that you condiser yourself to be then set an example for the younger generation and don’t ram them! It should be common knowledge… Guess not.
Better for you to get rear-ended. Just let the person pass you.
And then hope to hell they can control the vehicle and not slam into you, yeah, I tried that.
dosen’t sound like you pulled over, it sounds like you tried to play a dangerous game and forced a car to go in the right lane to get around you. or you tried to block the car from passing and hit it.
sounds like this guy needs some driving lessons
He needs to stop thinking he’s the king of the road and nobody dare want to drive differently from him, I understand some people dont have the necessary skills to drive a car 5 over and one could question if they are fit to drive at all. but he was obviously the one with road rage and he obviously caused the accident.
No, we didn’t pullover. We don’t have to. If srines wants to pass in a no passing zone, also a school zone thats her perogitive. We didn’t force her off the road or cause her accident. It seems she may not have known the dimensions of the vehicle she had recently bought and when she realized she was too close to the ditch she overcorrected veering into us going up the side of drivers side…btw srines, police did come to drivers window to collect info, never once came to passenger side of our vehicle. Did he administer a sobriety test after we left ? Maybe he should’ve your facts aren’t right and your story seems to change…
hows that by threatening to beat her head in?
Here is the fact yet one more time: I walked away with no tickets, traffic violations, warnings, and the officer seemed to chuckle when he told us you guys might get a lawyer…you do the math… You broke the law, and now you want to play the blame game..there’s a place where that can be done…..you think you can win you go to court, otherwise, shut up.
His point is that no one of authority heard his threats, he didn’t get a ticket, and therefore it doesn’t matter…I see that in his avoidance of your question. I think the cop was probably incredulous of the whole situation that more than likely was a waste of his time. I can’t imagine the circus with all those chuckleheads telling their side of the story on scene.
Sounds like the car in front was you’re typical ”I’m going slow so how dare you want to drive faster” person. I’ve had this happen to me before,you’re driving behind someone and don’t realize that due to slow speeds you’ve closed the gap to be appropriate for the speed and they start slamming on their brakes and intentionally going under the limit.
Um, no. I did the speed limit because that is what you should be doing…I did the speed limit from Essex St., to Grandview, and during the smash up. I would like someone to point out what EXACTLY I did wrong.
yup you’re a real hero to society for doing the speed limit. I know how it works, you couldn’t care less about the speed limit like the rest of humanity until you feel someone is following too close then ] you use you’re car and a technicality as a weapon to get back at the person who’s offending you.
Wow, YOU DON’T know how it works obviously. Most people follow the speed limit because it’s the law and they don’t want to pay fines for…what’s it called, o, yeah SPEEDING. Furthermore, we don’t speed with our child in the vehicle anyways. Her life is in OUR hands and it would be pretty unfair to her if we were to act reckless, now wouldn’t it ? Also, not many people speed on New Years Eve, as it’s common knowledge that cops are in abundance on that day. srines just didn’t care what she had to do was more important.
I admire that you are thinking of protecting your child, but really. How is hanging out a car window yelling and making gestures safe? You are blocking the view of your driver and putting yourself in an unsafe situation. What if srines had sideswiped your car with you half out the window? Also, not to knock your parenting, but that’s not a good example to set for your child, portraying your own road rage. Please don’t make the excuse that she’s ‘just a baby’ because if this is how you act, this is how you act. I’m sure you would do the same thing in 5 years, if that’s your nature. Sometimes we just have to be the bigger person. She was driving like an a**. So pull over (despite the fact that you were in the right speed-wise), and leave her on her merry way. All that needs to happen for these incidences to not happen is for one party to back down and let it go.
The issue for them was pride. backing down was not an option and they were willing to kill their child to fight for it.
Man, some people really are retarded. What’s up with the “hero” talk?? ohh, Rich they prob judging you by your username… lol Ra’s al Ghul
Just cut the bull. Be thankful that you were not hurt this time. You need to take a step back from this and learn some life lessons, Just try to imagine what the consequences could have been. That temper of you’re husbands is something to be weary of in the future, he could kill you and you’re daughter with his attitude. As a parent there are things that you may believe in strongly but they are not you’re fight anymore, you can’t go around trying to enforce those beliefs when you have life as you’re responsibility.
Theres an expression that I was taught at a very young age which might reach you. ”You may be right, But you’re dead right.” It means that in life there may be times when you are the one who is correct but pursuing it will get you killed in the end. And therefore the proper action is to walk away.
Next time pull over. and if you feel its worth it call the police as that is what you’re taxes pay for.
Actually, it is a car length for every 10 miles an hour. Therefore srines should have been 2.5 car lengths behind. Don’t believe me ? Ask a local policeman. Instead srines didn’t even have headlights according to our rearview mirror…that’s too close. You know what’s really scary ? How many people drive behind the wheel of four thousand pound pieces of machinery and don’t even know the rules and regulations of the roads they drive on.
The cop was not there so he has no valuable input. If you were going 25 then theres no reason to that far back, I do however doubt that you were would guess it was more like 15 to 20, of course when you got mad I’m sure it was even less. traffic condenses as it slows.
Slightly bent the side rear view mirror? As in, can’t use it anymore.
If she was a tailgate to me, I would have slammed on the brakes, AKA as a brake check…..hit me, o well your fault, hit from behind……loser
and it is against the law to purposely slow down or slam on your brakes. so you would get yourself a ticket as well
Thank you for pointing that out. I’m not saying that the original poster didn’t know this, but it is a common misconception that the driver from behind is ALWAYS at fault. There are always exceptions.
Hey, a dog could have run out in front of the car. You wouldn’t want to hit it.
Lying should be one of the biggest crimes there is. I had someone pull that on me and it worked, they got away with the whole “you’re behind me and ran into me, case closed thing”. They also got away with a black eye, so I like my justice anyway it comes to me.
So you admit to tailing someone AND punching them in the face? Nice….
EVERYONE makes mistakes
Nope, pretty sure he meant to give that person a black eye, and it sounds like he’d do it again.
Exactly my point, this guy obviously has road rage frequently and someday its going to result in someone doing it right back.
Unless ”her” name is mad dog and is running from the police for stealing a machine gun.
The vehicle being overtaken ALWAYS has the right of way. So. young lady, you get to pay the bill and learn (hopefully) that life is to short to be in such a hurry.
Sorry to disappoint you but I did not have to pay anything.
don’t you have to fix your car? aka “a bill”!!! duh
I’m guessing you didn’t read the story and are assuming that she is a teenager? That is unless you’re elderly.
At 53, it would be disrespectful to consider her anything other than young. or do you disrespect everyone? And why does everyone think only in monetary damages? Stress, chastisement and hindsight can take a higher toll in many cases, than monetary damages.
I would like to know where you got your
information from. First off the woman was hanging out the passenger side window
flipping me off. I could not hear what
she was saying or see if her lips were even moving. When I turned the corner onto Grandview Ave. the
other driver (in front of me) gunned his vehicle then slammed his brakes on. I
was frightened so I tried to pass him to just get away from him. He then
purposely rammed his vehicle into the passenger side of my vehicle and tried to
push me off the road. When I stopped and got out of my vehicle to assess the
damage he pulled in behind me and was screaming in my face saying that he was
going to pound the F****** s*** out of me and pound my F******* head in the
ground and he would hunt me down and follow me for the rest of my life. I was
not summoned for improper passing. I was summoned for not having proof of
insurance ( which I had at home). You can listen to the 911 call made by Mr.
Frappier’s passenger and clearly hear his screaming rants as his passenger was
on the phone standing beside him. I would like to know how the police officer
saw any damage to Mr. Frappier’s vehicle as he never looked at the drivers
side. He only went to the passenger side of the vehicle to get the drivers
paperwork. Apparently it is OK to try to push someone in the ditch with your
vehicle and make threats to people as long as there are no witness’ because I
was told by the police officer that there was no proof of any of these things
happened so nothing could be done. Also why would I try to damage my vehicle
when I had just purchased it the day before and his vehicle had several colors
of paint? Bangor Daily News should be
required to verify their information before things like this go to print and
ruin someone’s reputation.
Not sure what is worse your driving or you getting online to give a play by play of the mess you caused?
I wonder if the other party is a member on the BDN homepage as well?
For what its worth I completely believe what you’re saying, he should have pulled over and I’m certain that when you tried to pass he thought he would cut in front of you, which led to him hitting you. If the collision was a result of you passing then the damage would have been on the passenger side of your car at the rear wheel to rear bumper. You should sue.
damage is from the front bumper to the rear bumper. why would she run into a old beat up jeep worth $200 with a truck she bought 18 hours before, that WAS in mint condition? don’t make sense to me.
Exactly. I can almost guarantee he was trying to swerve in front of her to block her pass but he did it too late and hit her. This guy sounds dangerous to me.
Yeah, exactly that was what I told the dispatcher on the line, ” she is driving a brand-new vehicle, she must be psycho or something ” that’s my only guess. Also do you work for Kelly Blue Book ? Try closer to $2000, either way I don’t make it a habit of playing Bumper cars WITH MY CHILD IN THE BACK ! srines who was alone, seemed to be in a hurry to go somewhere and the posted speed limit of 25 obviously wasn’t going to get her there as quickly as she wanted.
PSYCHO! HAHA I LOVE IT!
Ok officer Im so glad we have public servants like you and you’re family to make sure nobody speeds in bangor.
Funny I saw your ” $2,000 ” dollar jeep and it was about three different colors must have been from all the other times you have been in accidents endangering your sick childs life.
Firstly, why should we have had to pullover ? We were abiding the law and following the posted speed limit of 25. Srines is the one who was in such a hurry that she tailgated us from the beginning of Essex St. and as a matter a factly came a little more than close a couple of times when breaking for traffic ahead. It was when we turned onto Grandview Dr. that we got a little clearance from srines as she had to stop for oncoming traffic before making her turn onto the same street, it wasn’t much clearance though as srines was back on our bumper in seconds. Even after I DID FLIP HER THE BIRD AND SAID ” BACK-OFF ” as I was concerned at how closely srines had been following us with our toddler in the backseat, whom had just come from having a chest x-ray to rule out pneumonia per Dr.’s orders…so the bottom line we all wanted to get home, but only one vehicle was following the posted speed limit and laws of the road and the other, well she decided her reasoning to get home quicker was enough to break the law and therefore cause an accident. So, what exactly would srines sue for ? Also, if we had done anything wrong why would I have calleed 911 to the scene ? Srines states she was scared after the comments I made to her according to police, yet she admits up above, ” I could not hear what she was saying or even if her lips were moving ” Seems as tho srines has a few holes in her story. She was scared because she knew the police were coming and she had done something wrong, that’s all Srines was scared of. Me ? I was scared some Road Rage lunatic was going to rearend us with my small, sick baby in the back and was again even more frightened when srines was window to window slamming into driverside mirror. So again, what exactly would srines sue for ?????
You’re opening sentence pretty much sums up what happened, ”flipping the bird and yelling at her” is not what a scared person does. scared people run or shut their mouths. Pull over and end the situation or let the police deal with it, its not up to you to be the enforcer of road laws and shame on you for endangering your kids in the process.
I do not think she is innocent in this at all, but you were exasperating the problem with you’re vigilante attitude. There are dangerous people out there and you’re concern as a parent should be to not get into a fight in the first place.
I know what happened, I spend more time on the road in a month then you will in a year.
Why not just BACK OFF?
why not pull over.
Here is why. We were the first vehicle, we were abiding the law, we were following the speed limit. Really not seeing any reason as to why we needed to pullover. Do you get it now ?
Oh so its a race? you were in first? The reason to pull over is to avoid conflict. hanging out the window flipping the bird at a potentially dangerous person is idiotic.
Simple solution, stop tailgating. People won’t yell at you, make obscene gestures, slam on their breaks trying to avoid Gods little critters, take pictures of you, slow down and you’ll get home 2 seconds later then you was hoping.
I’m with Frappier……………….back OFF and stop tailgaiting. I have more young drivers up my butt when driving…………………..and I don’t go slow!!!
Thank-you !!!
maybe you all should get your facts straight before you condemn others. Get a life
Hi, my name is Richard Frappier, …here are THE FACTS: You were scared because you were following a vehicle with a child and three other lives in it too closely. When I can’t see your headlights, you’re too close. You were scared of what? A woman yelling at you to stop taking the lives of the people she loves in your hands as though you somehow have that right because you’re in a rush to get somewhere? Lucky for you school was not in session I surmise, yeah, that was a school zone you demo derby’d in. The police told me you might hire a lawyer – I wish I could listen to that call – you would be laughed at and then hung up on. I love the comments thus far, good to see that people can recognize who is guilty of pure idiocy. YOU DON’T GET TO BREAK THE LAW BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A HURRY, AND YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT GET TO TAKE MY FAMILY’S LIVES INTO YOUR INCAPABLE HANDS.
AMEN BROTHAA FRAPP!!
AMEN BROTHAA FRAPP!!