AUGUSTA, Maine — Anti-abortion activists are gathering at Maine’s State House for the annual “Hands Around the Capitol Rally and March.”
The group will gather for a Roman Catholic Mass and prayer service before marching to the State House, where participants will join hands and encircle the building.
During the ceremony, a bell will ring 39 times, one for each year since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized abortion with its Roe v. Wade decision.
Prominent anti-abortion leaders who are participating include Bishop Richard Malone of the Diocese of Portland, along with anti-abortion legislators and Gov. Paul LePage.
39 years and going strong! Best decision yet by a modern SCOTUS.
Yes Tom it most likely saved your @## when you got a woman pregnant and didn’t want to man up to the responsibility of raising a child.
Besides this Nation pretending we are “civilized” while killing our unborn by 3000 a day….another way it assists men in avoiding the undesirable consequences of careless or casual sex is the man feels quite smug and justified to tell the pregnant woman to go flush that down the drain.” Oh yeah,we’ve come along way (under the rubric of women’s constitutional rights)
Killing the unborn is cruel, ruthless and barbaric. But hey, 9 robes ( it was 7 robes, 2 robes were opposed to legalizing the killing of the unborn) declared they discovered a mysterious, hidden constitutional basis to legally kill the unborn and not end up in prison.
I believe that almost every woman who decides to have an abortion knows full well that it is killing, cruel and barbaric.
I think that should give you a glimpse in to understanding the shame, horror, hopelessness and despair that a woman can feel when she finds she is pregnant.
It’s a personal choice, a difficult choice and should be left to a woman and her doctor.
“I believe that almost every woman who decides to have an abortion knows full well that it is killing, cruel and barbaric.”
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I doubt it. The unborn has been dehumanized by the feminist movement. Young women have been taught to believe their fetus is a blank and neutral mass of tissue…..a blob.
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” I think that should give you a glimpse in to understanding the shame, horror, hopelessness and despair that a woman can feel when she finds she is pregnant.”
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I can’t really connect shame, horror, hopelessness and despair to a women finding out she is pregnant because she engaged in irresponsible, unprotected sex (STD’s anybody?) It can’t possibly be a surprise to her. There is a huge surplus of birth control methods for women to choose from. It takes such a little bit of effort to acquire a method of birth control , as well as being responsible enough to prevent STD’s. NO, I don’t buy your sad tale of woe…….too many holes in it.
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There have been 50 million unborn human beings (just in America) who never had the chance to breath the air or see the light of day since January 22, 1973. These 50 million aborted human beings would have been 39 years old and younger had they been allowed to live.
you come off as someone who would tell other people what to do with their lives no matter what the subject.
take care.
TO YOU…….I come off as someone who would tell other people what to do.
Just for a brief period on a Saturday afternoon, in a comment section, I have the priviledge to speak for the 50 million (and counting) voices who have been silenced forever.
fair enough. and i speak for the 50 million women and girls who did not go to back alley hack and have their insides torn out, or throw themselves out of a tree trying to provoke a miscarriage.
abortions have been occurring much longer than you’ve been keeping statistics. The statistics you mention are only for those women who had abortions in medical facilities, assisted by their physicians.
OMG…..would you really have us all believe that all 50 million of those women would have resorted to back alley hacks…or throw themselves out of trees. That’s a new one for me…..I’ve never heard of the “throw yourself out of a tree” to precipitate a miscarriage.
BTW…..While pregnant, a mother suffered a life-threatening infection with a pathogenic amoeba. Because of the drugs used to rouse her from a coma and to treat her dysentery, the fetus experienced a severe placental abruption. Doctors expected a stillbirth and recommended an abortion to protect her life, but she decided not to have one. The baby she gave birth to, her fifth child, will be Quarter-Backing for the Denver Broncos today. Tim Tebow and the Broncos face Tom Brady and the Patriots in less than 4 hours.
GO PATS !
I am very glad that she was NOT forced by right-to-lifers to risk her life to have the baby. Risking her life was her own choice, and I respect that.
If you or your own daughter suffered a placental abruption, and was on the verge of death, what would you say to a group of right-to-lifers who barged into the hospital room determined to tell her doctor what he should do?
I must say….I’m very shocked and surprised at your accusation concerning groups of right-to-lifers. I had no idea they are running in packs…..hanging out in hospital obstetrical corriders…waiting to pounce just at the opportune time…..barge into a stranger’s hospital room…..surround the patient’s doctor, “determined” to tell him what to do? Where in Maine is this happening? Such wild and crazy behavior by pro-lifers would certainly be reported in any newspaper in Maine.
I haven’t come across those mind-boggling reports in any papers or on the internet ! Please, Ms. Davies……would you cite your resources so I can read for myself….when, where and which hospitals these packs of right-to-lifers are barging into patient’s rooms and telling doctor and patient what they must be doing?
What a scene they must create….you do realize the doctor would call for security and would probably order a lock-down….well, unless these pro-lifer renegades were holding a gun to the doctor’s head. Are these “groups” of pro-lifers carrying Bibles and packing heat?
Did this happen to you? Nonetheless, please share your sources for these allegations?
Liz your posts are hysterical. I think you need to give your fingers a rest, make yourself a cup of tea and really think about why you are filled with so much hate.
A girl I went to high school with, from a good Christian family, threw herself from a tree when she was 16 years old in hopes of having a miscarriage. That has haunted me since I was a girl.
I take it you are Christian? You could work on your compassion and tone down the judgement. Judgement is not here on earth and is not for you and yours.
and you end your discussion about life and death with a football cheer? very telling.
I take it you are Christian?
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Not necessarily, maybe…maybe not……I know pro-choicers haven’t considered that non-religious people can be pro-life……..and even belong to the “right-to-life movement” !!!! Who knew?
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The 16 year old who jumped from the tree……did she break any bones and did she go on to have her baby? I assume the leap from the tree didn’t cause a miscarriage. I’ve experienced and observed many events in life that haunt me also…..but 16 year olds jumping out of trees would not be one of them. Feel free to fill in the blanks concerning things that have the power to “haunt” me…….oh alright, I’ll give you a hint. It is probably obvious from my other commets.
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You said, “You could work on your compassion and tone down the judgement. Judgement is not here on earth and is not for you and yours.”
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YOU THINK? Do you think there might be a tiny chance you are doing to me what you accuse me of? I can’t find in any of my comments where I judge anyone. If you take the time to re-read my comments, I think you will find I judge no one for their choices. I am a strong voice for the unborn. (And will always be until I take my last breath)
As far as a football cheer. I was celebrating the “life” of Tim Tebow. A talented, caring and compassionate young man who found himself, at the age of 24, facing the opposing Tom Brady! Tim’s mother was strongly advised by her doctors to abort the fetal Tim Tebow. I am a PATS football addict. IMO…..I don’t find my GO PATS cheer cast any aspersions on the main premise of my comment.
maybe, maybe not.
that’s your answer to the question, “are you Christian?”
the rest of your comment isn’t worth reading if you can’t answer that question.
The 1st amendment says you have the right to ask me about my religion……the 1st amendment also protects me from being “ordered” by you to answer it. Who are you that you have concluded that any question you ask must be answered? Even Hillary Clinton said (of some questions to her) “that’s my zone of privacy.”
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You said, ” the rest of your comment isn’t worth reading if you can’t answer that question”
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I think it’s worth reading but just to oblige and be as helpfel as possible to you…is this better?
The 16 year old who jumped from the tree……did she break any bones and did she go on to have her baby? I assume the leap from the tree didn’t cause a miscarriage. I’ve experienced and observed many events in life that haunt me also…..but 16 year olds jumping out of trees would not be one of them. Feel free to fill in the blanks concerning things that have the power to “haunt” me…….oh alright, I’ll give you a hint. It is probably obvious from my other commets.***************************You said, “You could work on your compassion and tone down the judgement. Judgement is not here on earth and is not for you and yours.”*********************************************YOU THINK? Do you think there might be a tiny chance you are doing to me what you accuse me of? I can’t find in any of my comments where I judge anyone. If you take the time to re-read my comments, I think you will find I judge no one for their choices. I am a strong voice for the unborn. (And will always be until I take my last breath) As far as a football cheer. I was celebrating the “life” of Tim Tebow. A talented, caring and compassionate young man who found himself, at the age of 24, facing the opposing Tom Brady! Tim’s mother was strongly advised by her doctors to abort the fetal Tim Tebow. I am a PATS football addict. IMO…..I don’t find my GO PATS cheer cast any aspersions on the main premise of my comment.
matthew 6:5
read it and get back to me.
ps. this is a discussion forum, nobody ordered anybody.
“When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. Matthew 6:5 ******************You are surely a piece of work Single TrackGirl. I can’t, for the life of me, see what this scripture has to do with the subject of this forum. I’ll take a stab at it and it’s a huge stretch but……are you saying I have no business posting my opinions about the killing of the unborn on this comment site? When I post my defense of the unborn, it’s really not considered praying. However, there is “one jewel” in the scripture passage I can relate to. The street corner inference. I have been known to stand on sidewalks and street corners (and perhaps at the Augusta capitol) with a sign protesting the killing of the unborn. Seeing as you are such a staunch, immovable advocate in favor of the so-called constitutional right of the killing of the unborn, I’m truly stunned that you’re now throwing scripture around. Are you so confident of your position on the legal killing of the unborn, that you think the now risen, living Christ would be of the same persuasion. Do you believe He would be leading a charge in the building of the next abortion clinic?
Matthew 6:5 means that when people pray in front of millions of people they do it for self righteous purposes, not righteous purposes.
Back to the 1st amendment; Pro-lifers have just as much right to peacefully assemble as “occupiers” or anti-war protesters et al. You’re really losing the argument here, SingleTrack. Well over half of anti-war protesters do it based on their religious beliefs. Come to think of it, they are protesting killing, aren’t they? Seeing as you have resorted to scriptural passages as a means of supporting a vague indictment of pro-lifers appearing in public to protest aborting the unborn (keep in mind, some of them aren’t religious) I can’t help but repost my question to you…. “Are you so confident of your position on the legal killing of the unborn, that you think the now risen, living Christ would be of the same persuasion. Do you believe He would be leading a charge in the building of the next abortion clinic?”You may now take my advice……the 1st amendment also gives you the right to not answer my testy question/s. With your introduction of God and scripture into this topic, I would presume I have now put you “in a tight spot’ with my question about the position of the living, risen Christ on the legal aborting of the unborn.
i am not against your right to assembly? where are you getting these ideas?
tight spot? what???
I thought your scripture reference about praying in public was an effort to remind pro-lifers (those religious folks) that they really shouldn’t have been out in public in defense of the unborn and going so far as to be clasping hands around the capitol yesterday. I thought you were interpreting their public assemblage as “praying” in public. So now I’m back to still trying to figure out what the point was in you telling me to read Matthew 6:5.
My first impression was correct. That NT biblical passage has no relevence to the topic of this forum.
I can’t help but be amused by your contention…..QUOTE: [“it is also my choice to disregard you if you choose not to elaborate your discussion.”] You haven’t been disregarding me for most of this day ! Your replies to me, at this point, have devolved into just thrashing and floundering around for a cohesive argument on your part. (sometimes considered a “tight spot”)
As far as elaborating……I’ve been elaborating now on this abortion topic for 2 days now. I’m surprised the BDN hasn’t sent me a message of …”enough already” When I have the opportunity to bear down on the atrocity of 50 million plus human beings not given the chance to live among us (AND IT’S EVEN CONSIDERED PROGRESS) I obviously can’t elaborate enough.
Now, I gotta go watch some football.
i was talking about Tebow, since somehow sports crept into the discussion.
re: your right to speech. i agree with you 100%. but it also my choice to disregard you if you choose not to elaborate your discussion.
apparently you have not read my comments. i am pro-choice. not pro-abortion. big difference.
I take it you are Christian?
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Not necessarily, maybe…maybe not……I know pro-choicers haven’t considered that non-religious people can be pro-life……..and even belong to the “right-to-life movement” !!!! Who knew?
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The 16 year old who jumped from the tree……did she break any bones and did she go on to have her baby? I assume the leap from the tree didn’t cause a miscarriage. I’ve experienced and observed many events in life that haunt me also…..but 16 year olds jumping out of trees would not be one of them. Feel free to fill in the blanks concerning things that have the power to “haunt” me…….oh alright, I’ll give you a hint. It is probably obvious from my other commets.
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You said, “You could work on your compassion and tone down the judgement. Judgement is not here on earth and is not for you and yours.”
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YOU THINK? Do you think there might be a tiny chance you are doing to me what you accuse me of? I can’t find in any of my comments where I judge anyone. If you take the time to re-read my comments, I think you will find I judge no one for their choices. I am a strong voice for the unborn. (And will always be until I take my last breath)
As far as a football cheer. I was celebrating the “life” of Tim Tebow. A talented, caring and compassionate young man who found himself, at the age of 24, facing the opposing Tom Brady! Tim’s mother was strongly advised by her doctors to abort the fetal Tim Tebow. I am a PATS football addict. IMO…..I don’t find my GO PATS cheer cast any aspersions on the main premise of my comment.
Tell me more about that “hurl themselves out of trees” method in an attempt to shake a baby out of their uterus. Did women really climb trees and leap out of them?
yes. her name was Karen and she was 16, I won’t say more in this public forum.
Karen obviously had some serious problems. Most 16 year old girls who get pregnant walk around proudly pregnant.
her act was one of desperation, loneliness and fear. how do you see that as prideful?
Thank you for speaking up for them.
Obvi- you spew judgement and cast critisizm on a individual choice. Im glad you have imput, both sides need to be heard. I just feel you only know of your side.
I am acquainted with both sides.
Regardless of your personal or religious beliefs, women in America still do have the right to choose whether of not they are going to continue or terminate the pregnancy up to a certain point. Many have argued or tried to give a fetus the same rights as a person, but thus far they are still different.
Your statement:
“There have been 50 million unborn human beings (just in America) who
never had the chance to breath the air or see the light of day since
January 22, 1973. These 50 million aborted human beings would have been
39 years old and younger had they been allowed to live.”
My question is this : How would having 50 million more people, aged 39 and younger, effect our resources in America? Can we sustain another 50 million people – feed, house, educate, and support?
The vast majority of women who seek an abortion do know the consequences of what they are doing, and it is not a decision that they make without consideration. Women who seek abortions are doing so because they know that this is not the right time for them to be having a child – and many of them were using a form of birth control at the time of conception. If we take away a woman’s right to choose what happens to her life and her body when it comes to pregnancy, we will have more unwanted children in this country. I’m thankful for my mother for deciding to give birth to me, but I am equally as thankful that she was able to make that choice, and that it wasn’t forced upon her.
My question is this : How would having 50 million more people, aged 39 and younger, effect our resources in America? Can we sustain another 50 million people – feed, house, educate, and support?
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Well I’ll be ! Evidently you see the upside to killing off 50 million people. That’s truly strident to one’s mind. You do realize we are talking about 3000 killings per day?
HELLO….You cant die until you are first born. We live in a secular country where you have the freedom of religion. That means the freedom to partake in as well as the freedom not to ascribe to anyone else’s religious convictions. I know that you “get” what I’m saying,you just have a hard time accepting that we live in a free country
HELLO….You cant die until you are first born.
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WRONG. Any living thing dies when their HEART stops beating.
A fetus who dies naturally in utero has died before they were born. An abortion stops a beating heart. That procedure deliberately administers the cessation of the fetus’s beating heart. Depending on the stage of development, the procedures used to kill that unborn fetus is gruesome and ghastly. Abortions after 16 weeks of pregnancy allows for the fetus to be born alive and then left to die (usually in a corner and out of sight) Depending on how many weeks of gestation, the born alive fetus can take up to an hour to stop struggling for breath. It is my understanding after the 16 week stage of pregnancy and beyond, most doctors (who are willing to perform the deed) prefer to poison the fetus before its birth. They inject a chemical into the amniotic sac, the fetus sucks in the poison, eventually causing its beating heart to stop. However sometimes, the poisoned fetus dies during the birth process.
And then there’s always the partial birth killing. That one is a real doozy. The baby’s entire body is delivered feet first, except for its head. At that point, the doctor puctures a hole in the base of said baby’s skull and sucks its brains out. The head of the baby collapses. But, as you say, that’s freedom ! I have a strong suspicion if the millions of aborted humans since 1973 could have a voice (besides my own and others) they might conclude your version of freedom didn’t do a whole lot for them.
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You said, “I know that you “get” what I’m saying, you just have a hard time accepting that we live in a free country.”
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In this case, you are RIGHT. Unfortunately, I do “get” what you’re saying…..loud and clear.
The right-to-life movement hopes to change the hearts and minds of people of your mind-set. We have been known to have success in this persuasion of a change of mind. There is something else you and the pro-choicers don’t take into consideration. A person doesn’t have to be religious to believe in the “right-to-life.” I know…I’m acquanited with them.
BTW…..thanks for the tutorial on liberty and “freedom.” It just depends which end of the freedom stick one finds themselves on. 50 million and counting……3000 beating hearts are stopped daily in the U.S. (Aren’t you glad you took me on?)
OH OH……I really didn’t mean to post this comment 3 times……although it does speak for 3 voices of the 50 million who never had a chance to breath the air and see the light of day.
When I clicked the “post it” option, there was a problem and error with the system…so in my attempt/s to post it, I clicked it 3 times. It worked on the 3rd time.
HELLO….You cant die until you are first born.
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WRONG. Any living thing dies when their HEART stops beating.
A fetus who dies naturally in utero has died before they were born. An abortion stops a beating heart. That procedure deliberately administers the cessation of the fetus’s beating heart. Depending on the stage of development, the procedures used to kill that unborn fetus is gruesome and ghastly. Abortions after 16 weeks of pregnancy allows for the fetus to be born alive and then left to die (usually in a corner and out of sight) Depending on how many weeks of gestation, the born alive fetus can take up to an hour to stop struggling for breath. It is my understanding after the 16 week stage of pregnancy and beyond, most doctors (who are willing to perform the deed) prefer to poison the fetus before its birth. They inject a chemical into the amniotic sac, the fetus sucks in the poison, eventually causing its beating heart to stop. However sometimes, the poisoned fetus dies during the birth process.
And then there’s always the partial birth killing. That one is a real doozy. The baby’s entire body is delivered feet first, except for its head. At that point, the doctor puctures a hole in the base of said baby’s skull and sucks its brains out. The head of the baby collapses. But, as you say, that’s freedom ! I have a strong suspicion if the millions of aborted humans since 1973 could have a voice (besides my own and others) they might conclude your version of freedom didn’t do a whole lot for them.
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You said, “I know that you “get” what I’m saying, you just have a hard time accepting that we live in a free country.”
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In this case, you are RIGHT. Unfortunately, I do “get” what you’re saying…..loud and clear.
The right-to-life movement hopes to change the hearts and minds of people of your mind-set. We have been known to have success in this persuasion of a change of mind. There is something else you and the pro-choicers don’t take into consideration. A person doesn’t have to be religious to believe in the “right-to-life.” I know…I’m acquanited with them.
BTW…..thanks for the tutorial on liberty and “freedom.” It just depends which end of the freedom stick one finds themselves on. 50 million and counting……3000 beating hearts are stopped daily in the U.S. (Aren’t you glad you took me on?)
HELLO….You cant die until you are first born.
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WRONG. Any living thing dies when their HEART stops beating.
A fetus who dies naturally in utero has died before they were born. An abortion stops a beating heart. That procedure deliberately administers the cessation of the fetus’s beating heart. Depending on the stage of development, the procedures used to kill that unborn fetus is gruesome and ghastly. Abortions after 16 weeks of pregnancy allows for the fetus to be born alive and then left to die (usually in a corner and out of sight) Depending on how many weeks of gestation, the born alive fetus can take up to an hour to stop struggling for breath. It is my understanding after the 16 week stage of pregnancy and beyond, most doctors (who are willing to perform the deed) prefer to poison the fetus before its birth. They inject a chemical into the amniotic sac, the fetus sucks in the poison, eventually causing its beating heart to stop. However sometimes, the poisoned fetus dies during the birth process.
And then there’s always the partial birth killing. That one is a real doozy. The baby’s entire body is delivered feet first, except for its head. At that point, the doctor puctures a hole in the base of said baby’s skull and sucks its brains out. The head of the baby collapses. But, as you say, that’s freedom ! I have a strong suspicion if the millions of aborted humans since 1973 could have a voice (besides my own and others) they might conclude your version of freedom didn’t do a whole lot for them.
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You said, “I know that you “get” what I’m saying, you just have a hard time accepting that we live in a free country.”
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In this case, you are RIGHT. Unfortunately, I do “get” what you’re saying…..loud and clear.
The right-to-life movement hopes to change the hearts and minds of people of your mind-set. We have been known to have success in this persuasion of a change of mind. There is something else you and the pro-choicers don’t take into consideration. A person doesn’t have to be religious to believe in the “right-to-life.” I know…I’m acquanited with them.
BTW…..thanks for the tutorial on liberty and “freedom.” It just depends which end of the freedom stick one finds themselves on. 50 million and counting……3000 beating hearts are stopped daily in the U.S. (Aren’t you glad you took me on?)
And if they had lived, conservatives would be fighting tooth and nail to make sure they and their mothers had NO welfare benefits, NO food stamps, NO section 8 housing…
I’ll assume you are speaking about the 50 million Americans who didn’t have a chance to live, love, thrive and take their place among us? The “mothers’ who chose to keep their babies that were in jeopardy of being aborted (the mother made a decsion to let them live) wouldn’t be denied welfare benefits, food stamps, mainecare or section 8 housing. What’s with the tooth and nail nonsense?
However, those mothers would have been in safe housing during their pregnancy and encouraged (NO, not forced…just encouraged to give their baby up for adoption) …so the child could have a home….. loving, responsible adult parents and where all their needs would be met and taken care of…instead of the food stamp/welfare road..where both mother and child suffer.
Your limited knowledge of conservatives is absurd and bizarre. at best.
The secret impetus behind the anti-choice movement is revealed in your comment–make abortion illegal, forcing girls and women to bear children against their will, in order to provide babies for adoptive parents.
You have limited knowledge as well about who is getting welfare.
I know 2 choldren who are ADOPTED, PERMENANTLY PLACED, they have Cub Care, College is going to be paid for AND the parents also.
Not all adopted families are great as you are saying here.
And through encouragement you empower. I feel it is an individual choice. Not yours, and not mine.
Dont be so quick to judge.
I’m not judging quickly. I’ve had 39 years to ponder the legalization of the killing of the unborn. You say, “Not all adopted families are great as you are saying here.” That’s true….and there are natural families who aren’t all that great either. Whoever the children are of adoptive parents or natural parents, good or not so good, have at least had the chance to live. I find it disturbing and frightening when pro-choicers declare that human fetuses were done a big favor by not being allowed to experience life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness because they were “unwanted.” That’s quite the solution.
And who did you want to pay for these unwanted?
Would we be 50 million more over populated?
How many unwanted already exist in this country?
Would there be 50 million more jobs available?
Would you rather pay for an abortion and be done with it, or pay for someone’s unwanted child, or a child that they can’t afford themselves for the next 20 years?
You wrote: “Would you rather pay for an abortion and be done with it, or pay for someone’s unwanted child, or a child that they can’t afford themselves for the next 20 years?”
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Are you kidding…after reading my posts? But I will answer anyway. I choose to pay for someone’s unwanted child, or a child that they can’t afford themselves for the next 20 years?” Talk about pro-choice…..that’s my choice.
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You said, “How many unwanted already exist in this country?” PLENTY…..and that’s not counting the 50 million and counting who have been and are being aborted. There are wives finding themselves unwanted after 10-20 years of marrige, for just one example and there are many other sets of circumstances where humans of all ages find themselves unwanted…..temporarily or permantly. Is your argument…they would have all been better off being aborted in the first place?
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You said, “Would there be 50 million more jobs available?”
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The job market is dismal right now but……of the 50 million abortions (and 3000 more daily) since 1973, 21 million jobs would be the central number, had they lived. 29 million of the 50 million would still be in high school, middle school and grade school. And yes, depending on the drive, intellect, education and ambitions of the 21 million, they very well may have been among the actively employed. But we’ll never know…..will we? Lance Armstrong and Tim Tebow are holding their own. Their supporting themselves and enjoying life.
Very closed minded.
Do you know abortions take place under many circumstances besides “Permiscuity”.
You are very judgmental in your comment.
Are you a man?
“Permiscuity”.
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You’ve lived up to your cantspell ID. It’s promiscuity.
I don’t believe I’m closed-minded and to answer your “man” question……I’m a woman.
Men can’t have an abortion. Only women can. It is their choice and it is a legal choice at that. Don’t care for abortion? Don’t have one. Otherwise, mind your own business.
When a couple is expecting a baby they say “we’re pregnant”, so when they choose to snuff out the fetus do they say “we’re having an abortion?
You’ve got me. I’m sure it’s different for each couple. That’s what happens when you make general statements about other folks’ business.
Whatever they may or may not refer to the fetus as,it basically BOILS DOWN TO THE FACT THAT IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
Well said!! I dont know many women who say ” I had an abortion”. Stay out of their business and you wont have to worry about go!
Freedom of choice.
I dont know many women who say ” I had an abortion”
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Gloria Steinham (Leader of the feminist movement) has no problem saying “I had an abortion.” She includes it in her Bio.
I’ve paid for a couple. Big deal.
I see your real proud of yourself. I would love to meet the women you knocked up and hear what they think of you.
Im greatful for the right of choice.
All situations are different. To each their own.
How do people decide what is abortion? Plan B pill, Birth control, 1st trimester, back ally abortion, abuse?
These are ALL non-natural methods of abortion. If the right to judge is based on religion, than birth control is wrong.
Who are the activist that say one is okay and not the other? What makes it okay for them to say such things? Because they are judging with out cause.
just my opinion
I bet that one un planned pregnancy with a one night stand, will reveal that these people are secretly pro choice.
I think you’d be surprised to know how many married women with husbands and families have abortions. I’m just adding that because everyone thinks its only the unwed mother who makes this tough decision.
respectfully,
You are right, many women who find themselves in their 40’s and pregnant have abortions. Yes, it can be tough finding yourself pregnant in your 40’s, however life is unpredictable, you could loose a job or a spouse, but this unplanned pregnancy could be a blessing, believe me I know.
women in their 40’s???
ok, i see hyperbole and anecdotes are a big part of your discussion.
i have two children, neither were planned. i get it.
Truth is 98% of us were unplanned. By the way how is hyperbole and anecdotes part of my discussion?
that is very true. please know i am not pro-abortion (i don’t know anyone who is). I am pro-safe alternatives.
Covering up one sin with another is always wrong.
It’s unfortunate that such an important cause seems to have sold its soul to the Catholic Church. Doesn’t Bishop Malone have a statue to be praying to?
The Catholic Church succeeded in imposing on the private lives of people until the 1870s and in some cases until the 1970s. They have lost much of their influence due to people being better educated and informed. Nevertheless, the church will continue to attempt to dictate what people can and cannot do as it aids them in continuing to acquire their wealth.
What?
Even that icon of religious right conservatism, Sarah Palin, considered abortion upon finding out she was pregnant with a Downs Syndrome baby. She made a choice to go through with that pregnancy but would deny the choice to anyone else.
Bangor Daily News and Associated Press: You had a choice between “Anti-Abortion” or “Pro-Life’ to describe the people involved. These folks generally refer to themselves as Pro-Life…why did you select Anti-Abortion?
About 11% of pregnancies in Maine end in abortion. I am pleased that Governor LePage associates himself with the Pro-Life agenda.
“Pro-Life” implies they are against all killing, and I seriously doubt they are against the killings in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I am against the killings in Iraq, Afghanistan and unborn children.
They are actually more anti-choice than pro-life, since they are in favor of helping the fetus only until it is born.
I not only work to save unborn children from getting snuffed out, but I have dedicated my life to serving the poor, disabled, elderly and mentally ill. Most people I know who are active in the pro life movement are the most giving people. What do you do Liz?
The unborn are not ‘children’. Only the born are children. Fetuses are not children. You are using hysterical mistruths to further your position. Women have the right to choose just like you do.
That said, I appreciate the fact that you have a position on abortion and I respect you for it.
“That said, I appreciate the fact that you have a position on abortion and I respect you for it”, however please do not ever even think of trying make abortion illegal because then I won’t respect you.
I do not respect people who think the killing of fetuses (little ones) is ok. I wonder if you say to family and friends you look beautiful carrying that fetus within you.
Whatever.
Not that humans are animals (but that’s debatable at times), but we are the only species that kills our unborn for the sake of convenience. I guess it does go to show that we have a sin nature.
The SCOTUS had no business in ruling on Roe v. Wade. This was a glaring case of legislating from the bench. Constitutionally, they are not permitted to create new laws. SCOTUS’ role is to interpret and apply the Constitution. In fact, the only example that could most logically be cited is in the Declaration of Independence where it states, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights,
that among these are LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. It is nothing more than a historical statement. Independence was not achieved until the Peace Treaty of Paris 1783, which is the legal document establishing us as a free country. The rule of law in the US is derived from the US Constitution. The role of the Supreme Court is to prevent laws in violation of the Constitution from being enacted. It is only the right wing nuts who insist the Court is making laws whenever they rule a right wing attempt to impose control over people as unconstitutional.
Typical lib who just wants to make their errant point. If you read my post, I didn’t say what you said I said (can you follow that?) in regard to the Declaration of Independence. What I said about SCOTUS is FACT. At best, this should have been a states rights issue.
Then why did you cite the Declaration? The Declaration has nothing to do with the Supreme Court’s duties.
In Roe vs Wade the Court did not create a new law. It simply invalidated the laws that were in violation of the Constitution.
Your argument is valid if you consider abortion a moral decision. If you consider it a personal, medical decision, then clearly the SCOTUS was correct in taking the case.
Since most people who are anti-choice use religion as their basis, then it is totally correct that the SCOTUS should rule in favor of personal choice.
Came for the fervor of the anti-choice crowd; wasn’t disappointed.
Thanks for the entertainment, bible-pounders!
I love how the religious bigots come out of the closet.
If Jesus was alive and on Earth today performing the acts he did, the Conservatives would label him a Socialist.
Jesus is more concerned with you how you treat others, I really don’t think he would support snuffing out the unborn.
I have no problem marginalizing and otherwise labeling those who use religion as a tool of hate.
It’s the Woman’s body and her right to choose. It should not be the choice of Churches or States, but the Woman’s.
cantspell–would you be so grateful, if your mother had the “right of choice” before you were born?
The “pro-life” peoples ‘concern’ ends at birth. Please keep your religious views where they belong,in your church.
“When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. Matthew 6:5
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You are surely a piece of work Single TrackGirl. I can’t, for the life of me, see what this scripture has to do with the subject of this forum. I’ll take a stab at it and it’s a huge stretch but……are you saying I have no business posting my opinions about the killing of the unborn on this comment site? When I post my defense of the unborn, it’s really not considered praying. However, there is “one jewel” in the scripture passage I can relate to. The street corner inference. I have been known to stand on sidewalks and street corners (and perhaps at the Augusta capitol) with a sign protesting the killing of the unborn.
Seeing as you are such a staunch, immovable advocate in favor of the so-called constitutional right of the killing of the unborn, I’m truly stunned that you’re now throwing scripture around. Are you so confident of your position on the legal killing of the unborn, that you think the now risen, living Christ would be of the same persuasion. Do you believe He would be leading a charge in the building of the next abortion clinic?