BANGOR, Maine — An idea for about 35 years, the revitalization of a prominent Queen City neighborhood may finally come to fruition.

The area — which has come to be named the “Main Street Corridor” by Bangor city staff members — is a 3,600-by-2,000-foot tract of commercial, residential and mixed-use properties bordered by Main, Buck, Third and Union streets.

“They initially looked at that area back in 1977 and put together a plan, but it was too much of a bite to chew on,” said Rosie Vanidestine, Bangor’s assistant community economic developer. “It’s continually been an area that’s been talked about as complaints and crime and issues arise or come up.”

The goal — which has been reignited by the recent Waterfront developments including Hollywood Casino Hotel and Raceway, Waterfront Concerts Pavilion and the ongoing construction of the new civic arena and events center — is revitalization.

That means addressing a variety of complex and sometimes interrelated issues, upgrading physical attributes, improving the standard of living and addressing public safety concerns in the neighborhood all at the same time.

What are the issues in your neighborhood?

While revamping streets and sidewalks, adding parks and improving lighting are all parts of the initial project blueprint, infrastructure improvements aren’t the only components.

“There’s been a lot of council discussion about our investment in the waterfront and the arena, and we’ve had a group of people coming forward asking for help,” said Bangor City Manager Cathy Conlow.

The issues include civic and criminal complaints, desires and improvements through code enforcement, ordinance revisions, construction, renovation and input by residents and city officials alike.

“I don’t think anyone’s concrete as to understanding what it’s going to look like as we go forward,” said Bangor City Councilor and Mayor Cary Weston. “There will be a lot of changes and alterations, but I think as we look at Main Street and that economic corridor, things are progressing to a point where we have to take planning much more seriously now than we did a decade ago.

“This requires a lot of planning and vision and time is not a luxury anymore.”

Especially if, as city officials hope, much of the funding for the project study and the project itself comes from federal Community Development Block Grant money.

“If we’re going to dedicate CDBG money there, we’d have to make some proposals by the May deadline,” said Conlow. “I think we can go full speed ahead, yes. It’s been on the middle burner for awhile, and now it’s being moved to the front,”

Staff members are wasting little time as the first step was setting dates for neighborhood meetings to solicit input from residents and invite their participation in shaping the project.

Meetings have already been scheduled for Wednesday, Feb. 8, and Thursday, March 1, at the James F. Doughty School auditorium. All residents and members of the public are encouraged to attend.

“We’ll definitely need citizen involvement and I believe some residents have already kind of banded together to work with us on this,” said Vanidestine.

Revitalization, not renewal

Continuous complaints about crime, blight, property abandonment, run-down properties and unmaintained apartments by absentee landlords were major catalysts for the corridor project idea, but city officials are quick to point out this is not a repeat of Bangor’s late 1960s urban renewal.

“It’s not urban renewal in the traditional sense people talk about it,” Vanidestine said. “It’s not cleaning out older properties and replacing them with newer ones. It’s more a community revitalization project.”

Weston stressed the need to learn from history and past mistakes.

“If you look at urban renewal, it was looked at a way to cleanse societal problems and blight and start over again, but we lost a lot of history in the process,” said Weston, a lifelong Bangor resident. “Tearing down a building is not urban redevelopment. We certainly don’t want to clear-cut history and go back to ground zero.”

So Bangor civic employees are looking at ways to combine beautification with law enforcement and legal revisions, among other things, to address problems and revive a geographically significant city area bordering the Waterfront.

“Over the years, we’ve had a lot of complaints from that area. More than other areas? I don’t know, but we have spent an inordinate amount of time on issues in that area at various times, not to say we don’t with other areas as well,” said Jeremy Martin, Bangor’s code enforcement officer. “Property maintenance is a huge issue when it comes to residents and city officials. I hear from people on that issue every week, because the condition of a neighborhood affects the values of the properties in that neighborhood.”

Martin said code enforcement and city ordinances will certainly be a main component of the project and study.

“The multifamily apt buildings with absentee landlords who don’t maintain property is a huge complaint,” Martin said. “Police get called a lot for property maintenance issues in general, life safety issues, illegal dumping, crime.”

Other possible civil options include land acquisition, land use and zoning changes, establishing new neighborhood partnerships and implementing streetscape enhancements such as community gardens, greenways and parks.

From pipe dream to project

The next step after soliciting public input is hiring a consultant to conduct a study of everything from the number of buildings, units, vacant or abandoned buildings, homeowners and renters to existing laws, ordinances and codes.

Conlow said the city has a request for proposals out already for some planning assistance, City Solicitor Norm Heitmann is researching various ordinances and Vanidestine is meeting with residents.

A study could begin as early as July when potential CDBG funding becomes available.

“It’s really a moving target right now. Geographically, we hope to look at it phase by phase,” said Vanidestine. “I think it’ll be a 3-5 year project. Maybe more, depending on unforeseen issues and costs, but I don’t have any clue on how much something like this would cost.”

As with many big civic projects, this one may not be finished until long after current councilors have finished their terms, but Weston says for a big project like this, the most important thing is starting it.

“It now becomes more an economic reality and less a wish. If we want to be serious about our economic vitality of our future, then Main Street and its adjacent streets have to be part of it,” Weston said. “The real challenge for this council is to clearly understand the vision, purpose and goal of this plan.”

“As a lifelong resident of Bangor, I can tell you this project enables me to be excited about something that’s a passion of mine and that’s keeping more young people here in Bangor.”

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94 Comments

  1. Keep on going to include 4th St. and lower Ohio street to below Thomas Hill.  Also the Essex/ Garland St. area.

  2. A better use of the money might be to bulldoze the entire area and start from scratch.  If all you do to a festering wound is slap a band-aid on it, it won’t get any better.  Sometimes you have to rip out the dead, infected tissue. 

    1. There are some bad neighborhoods in the area mentioned, and good ones, including mine. I am not sure what you are talking abount, I wonder what utopia you live in where the neighborhood is so perfect, because it can’t be around here.

      1. In that entire area of Union to Buck between Main and Third I have never seen a “good” part.  I suppose if you compare yours to the worst, then you probably have a good area.  But if you compare it to a majority of neighborhoods in Bangor, a bulldozer is a good solution.

        1. Ocho, and what about the fact that it is only one or two people that can create a whole mess of problems for an area of town? That means the WHOLE area should suffer and be bulldozed?

          If that’s the solution, I am sure single home owners will be happy to take top dollar for their homes and move on. Have fun as a tax payer, since YOU will have to shoulder the cost of paying for all those homes to be bought in order for them to be bulldozed! I am sure you wont mind that extra increase, right? Since you seem so keen on trashing an entire area of town!

        1. First I was wondering which cul de sac you lived on, or if you lived up by the lily garden on Howard? The Red Bull and excavator is throwing me off. Now I’m thinking perhaps out past Job Corps on Union St. or on the right side of the Finson Rd.? Am I close?

          1. Haha I admire you FTW! But, not from Capehart either, I have an excavator, you’re just wrong on Union St/Finson and wherever the Lily Garden is on Howard.

    1. Then the trash can come to your part of town and we can come bulldoze your home. Excellent! I will take 3 cases of red bull please, and will rent the excavator in preparation. See ya soon!

  3. To “re-vitalize” something implies that it hasn’t always been gross.  If you look at the buildings in this part of town, it’s clear that it was never particularly vital. 

  4. How very patrician of the posters here to make comments about decimating an area where people have their homes and to go further than that to suggest other areas. The much-sought-after young people who had skills and talents have left Bangor and are not coming back. Time to face facts.

    1. You gotta start getting young people back somehow and this is as good a place as any to start.  As usual the council is playing catch up but it’s not this council’s fault.  This should have started back in’77 but as was the norm in those days “no need to rush into anything”.
       
      Hopefully some of the “noise complainers” will be motivated to move to the country where they will hear only the roar of the crickets….   I guess all that complaining paid off.  Sometimes the squeaky wheel DOES get the grease.

      1. You think the young people are coming back? What will bring them here? Sea Dog? Hollywood Slots? or Kohl’s?

        1. If I was a potential large employer, I would look very highly at this and all the other positive changes to the city over the last few years (Hollywood Slots, new Arena and CC. WCS etc.  Cleaning up this area of derelicts and undesirable property can only help that cause.  As in life in general, there are no guarantees, but it certainly won’t hurt either.  You have to give props to Mayor ( sorry Ryan) Weston and the council for having a “vision” of a better, cleaner city.  Something his predecessors rarely did.

          1. Are you in Bangor after 5:00? Dead, with tumbleweeds going down the middle of the streets. I kid you not.

  5. As nice as this all sounds, it seems to be pretty unrealistic. At the end of the day, Bangor’s roads remained ravaged, and the cops spend more time pulling over people for expired registration rather than arresting people doing drugs and roaming around. I have lived here for several years now. I have watched my neighborhood get progressively worse and worse. I constantly find myself asking, how does no one intervene, and more importantly, how bad is it going to get? Fixing up the Waterfront and Main Street should be the least of their worries. Let’s concentrate on repairing this broken city as a whole, rather than making the road that leads to your money-makers look pretty.

    1. sounds like you don’t want to support 2 recent additions to Bangor that have brought millions of dollars in business to the area and many jobs.  That mentality is why parts of the city are run down and need help. 

      1. Many job where.  The new arena will be staffed by outside people, not mainers.  Just like Hollywood slots, 78 percents are from out of Maine

    2. I have lived on Walter St for ten years. It fluctuates from good to bad it all depends on who is renting in the area. There are a lot of good people on this street and  some bad ones also.
      It’s the dirt bag landlords that will rent to anybody.

      We watch out for each other down here; I chased a guy two blocks after catching him in my neighbors car. I even followed two guys all the way downtown to confront them about breaking into my car. Like you said Juliette, the cops are more concerned with bringing in revenue to pay their salaries. Who can blame them?

      I watch people park in Shaw’s parking lot and walk down to the yellow house in the middle of Walter St disappear into the building come out ten minutes later and walk back to the car and leave. You think the cops will do anything?………. nope, it requires man hours and takes away from their revenue stream.

      Anyway…. evil prospers when good people do nothing.

  6. This area USED to be a very nice area of Bangor, but went way downhill in later years.  Hope the same doesnt happen that did with the Hancock Street area and ship ’em all to Capehart

    1. Why not ship them to capeheart? Then all these nice people in the comment section who sit at their computers and dictate what area of Bangor should be flattened can dictate that capeheart should be bulldozed too!

    2. I agree that this area did used to be very nice. I had relatives that lived there for 40 years. The apartments and single family homes  were well maintained back then. Who are the “slum lords”  that  are referred to now?  I lived on Finson Rd back when Capehart was full of service families.  Back then it was very nice. Low income housing doesn’t take long to go down hill if the people living there don’t care about keeping it up.

        1. It won’t be any farther than the old skate park was for kids who can’t drive. Union Street is right on the bus route.

          1. rrr, buses cost money and there is no residential neighborhood out there, no sidewalks to walk there, the kids may as well be in exile

          2. Actually, organizers of the original park helped choose the new site.

            Paul Bunyan Park wasn’t exactly in the middle of a neighborhood, either.

  7. I beg to differ with you Bangorian. 
    Yours, and the perspective of others, is exactly why this revitalization is necessary. 
    The area mentioned in the article was in fact a vital part of the city many years ago. Many of the homes built in that area at the turn of the century were built by wealthy merchants. Many of the homes still boast the magnificent architecture that once enticed people to settle there years ago.  Granted, some of the once beautiful Victorians have been turned into multi-home dwellings and have not been maintained as well as they should. However, regardless of the negative perception, they are unequivocally a large part of Bangor’s history.There are many single family homeowners who continue to be drawn to those homes that have remained intact. They take pride in their homes and wish to make their community a safe place to raise a family.  

    As long as you have dedicated single family homeowners that want to do their part in restoring the beauty that once was, you need projects such as this. 

  8. The chamber must have demanded a new home.

     Where is the parking going to be at the new civic center?? Will we have to walk all the way down the hill from the parking lot, or does this new corridor mean taking down Bangor Daily News for a parking lot??? The BDN would love if the City gave them Market value for the Building… Tanya and her very, very, close friend and chummy Cary Weston have a plan People, But we must hurry… Tax the home owners to make room for more Pubs and Eateries and a new Southerland and Weston Office…  After witnessing Robert Carlson a prominent Bangor Business Man’s issues that came out, I Question Everything… Yes folks there is money to be made at taxpayer expense here, (corporate welfare) at taxpayer expense and don’t forget it….   They already lied about the Racino covering to total cost of the New Arena.. Taxes will be going up again, soon!!! When Weston ran for office he said he was going to cut cost in the city,, all he has done is shift cost…. and I voted for him,,, never again… P.S Time is at Hand, do it today or doom is eminent!!!! Hurry!!!

    1. It’s been a while since I’ve seen any information about the overall plan for the arena, but I believe that after the new facility is completed and usable, the old auditorium is getting bulldozed and converted into additional parking…

      1. elevation’s from the bottom of Buck street where you will enter the civic center (not the Arena) to the parking level  is 40 to 50 feet  and 400 to 1o00 yards away depending on where you park.. Push your wheelchair or cane through that.

      2. I had to ponder for a minute… I don’t recall a budget or money set aside for the demolition of the old Audi, Sort of like the old bridge on Verona Island… either way I did hear them say they were going to save the old civic center through.. perhaps I was wrong on where the new Chamber will be, maybe it will go into the old civic center.. at taxpayers expense.. Yes renovate the old civic center then lease it to the chamber for $1.00 a year..  Nothing for the people/ 2 weeks of basketball in febuary.. All done for businesses at taxpayer expense.. I personaly call that corporate welfare….

        1. About 1$1.3 million has been budgeted for the demolition of the current auditorium and civic center.

          Initial plans called for saving the foundation of the current auditorium for the banquet center. Those were changed to demolish everything.

          As for access to the banquet center, there isn’t an issue. People would still be able to access that portion of the arena from Main Street, parking at Hollywood Slots. Otherwise, I’m sure the rest of the arena would be opened for access from the main parking lot.

    2. Considering that the new arena will have fewer seats than the current auditorium, parking shouldn’t be a problem, especially when the footprint for the current auditorium is turned into parking.

      1. Look at the elevations on the site plan… The Civic center is on the bottom of Buck street, the parking lot is 40 to 50 feet above the entrance.  I guess we will just push people down the hill in their wheelchairs…

        1. If you look at the two renderings found at http://www.bangormaine.gov/gallery.php?gallery_id=18 , you’ll see primary entrances at both the higher and lower elevations, and elevators within the facility will make this trek primarily an indoor one..

        2. You probably should look at the plans again. The main entrance will be at the southwest corner of the arena, at an elevation level with the top of Dutton Street. That’s where all of the intricate work on the concrete forms was done when the foundation was put it this past fall.

  9. Im not a bangor resident but I did go to college there for two years (Husson) and usually am in town once or twice a week depending on what I’m doing…the city has gotten nothing but worse – I’ve seen the city go from what I believed a really great place to a place that resembles Worcester…the dredge of all new england cities.

    Bangor had it all – low crime, beautiful and lots to do. Now with the American Folk Festival, this “waterfront concerts” and the bath salts issue is bringing in the wrong crowd. Not necessarily the concerts or the folk festival (that is blatant sarcasm) but the whole issue of handing out free tickets to welfare recepients, the homeless, and other groups who are known to have a high crime/drug use rate (such as “paying the rent” for these people – I know this happens since I did have a meeting with the Mayor once – or even allowing homeless people to stay in public parks IE OCCUPY BANGOR) this draws an unsavory crowd.

    1. It is so easy to pass judgement from out of town. I live in the heart of Bangor and the Folk Festival and the Waterfront Concerts are fantastic. It couldn’t be that increased crime is from a bad exonomy though, I can’t imagine what else would do it. Drugs are here and everywhere, if you don’t think they are in you town, you are in for a rude awakening. In smaller towns with houses further apart, it is easier to be crazy and not have people notice, and people tend to cover it up more. I believe most cities and towns have “general assistance” where rent is paid for “unsavory” characters. There are just as many drug users and criminals among the working force as there is in the homeless poor, if not more, why do you target one group of people? As far as I am concerned, you can cut your trips back to once or twice a year so we don’t offend you too much.

    2. If you had a meeting with the mayor, you have the wrong city. We have a council chair and a city manager, but no mayor.

        1. Years ago it was called the mayor.  Its the correct legal term to call him that and that is why they do it.  RyanRobbins corrects everyone on that.  I still call him the mayor

  10. The hand writing was on the wall for downtown when the first big box store opened out by the interstate. Now Bangor looks like any other city in the U.S. . A Best Buy, a ChinaMart, a Home Cheapo, a Slowes, rinse and repeat.

  11. The biggest problem, that could easily be addressed in Bangor is to start demanding that the 2 big slumlords start maintaining their apartments.

  12.  Can’t have a regular neighborhood when building a new Civic Center. You all opened a can of spending worms when that was voted in.
     How many jobs and homes will be lost this time? (Don’t forget Urban Renewal which left people homeless and  shut down a lot of jobs)

    1. Great  comment, you got all these bangor voters that wanted this for The concerts when it rains.  Yes the concerts bring money in for Bangor, but the auditorium was fine, just need  new help in that.  A few repairs.  Bangor city council is not all there sometimes, along  with bangor voters

      1. If there is more then one concert in the new Arena per year I will eat my shorts…  The reason outside concert are sucessful is because the city charges $1.25 per head and you can get up to 15 K people there( not that thats happened) The new arena is smaller then the old one and you won’t find them charging $1.25 a head to use the Arena, more like $7.50 to $12.00 a head, which takes the fun and profit out of having concerts there. so NO CONCERTS IN THE NEW ARENA… 

      2. You know BDN building is older than the current auditorium, I wonder if they will have to be torn down for being “unsafe”

    1. I welcome you to come to the Shelter (“cedar and main”) so we can have a conversation.   Please just give me a call at 947-0092 so we can schedule a time.   Dennis Marble

      1. Would the conversation be about how to get rid of the bums hanging out on cedar and main? Or would it be about moving the shelter next to where you live Mr. Marble?

  13. why not use all the money from HS to revitalize the city?  Oh, I forgot, that money is gone….gone for the next 20 years to cover the mortgage on a new public building (no tax revenue from this baby).  The big heads in City Hall believe they have revitalized the city with a new basketball facility and now its time to look at neighborhoods….the village idiots at it again! LOL

  14. To characterize what the City of Bangor is attempting as a
    pejorative misses the mark.

    I have decided to respond because my family and I have a long
    vested history in the quality of this specific area of town.  I am a third generation resident of the area,
    my daughter would be the fourth generation to live, grow up and go to school
    and church in this neighborhood.  Several
    single family homes are still residences to my extended family.  I can name the homesteads of several families
    from this lower west side area ~ some have stayed and some have moved on.  For example, the Freeses homestead on Third
    St.  I choose to live here and am very
    pleased to see the city start the improvement process for those of us that choose live
    here.  My farther spent his career at the City of
    Bangor’s public works department, fixing the sidewalks, plowing the
    streets, etc., working hard to make Bangor a better place to live.  I remember walking to St. Mary’s on First St,
    my daughter walked to Vine St. and Doughty schools and many of us in the area
    believe Second Street and Davenport Park is a great area for young and old.  To put it in perspective and to name a few
    things to consider along with the residences this ‘lower west side’ of Bangor has to offer;
    three churches, several businesses including a major area bank.  A Shaws grocery store, a Rite Aid pharmacy,
    two schools (vine and fifth just outside this specific area), a homeless shelter,
    PCHC’s offices in the St. Mary’s building, the Bangor Police and Bangor Fire stations, the YWCA/YMCA
    including the Isaac Farrar Mansion, the GAR museum and the Bangor Daily News.  Myself along with several homeowners in this area
    have decided to unite and work with the city to improve the area for current
    and future generations.

    Regards,

    AWESTSIDESTORY

  15. To characterize what the City of Bangor is attempting as a
    pejorative misses the mark.

    I have decided to respond because my family and I have a long
    vested history in the quality of this specific area of town.  I am a third generation resident of the area,
    my daughter would be the fourth generation to live, grow up and go to school
    and church in this neighborhood.  Several
    single family homes are still residences to my extended family.  I can name the homesteads of several families
    from this lower west side area ~ some have stayed and some have moved on.  For example, the Freeses homestead on Third
    St.  I choose to live here and am very
    pleased to see the city start the improvement process for those of us that choose live
    here.  My farther spent his career at the City of
    Bangor’s public works department, fixing the sidewalks, plowing the
    streets, etc., working hard to make Bangor a better place to live.  I remember walking to St. Mary’s on First St,
    my daughter walked to Vine St. and Doughty schools and many of us in the area
    believe Second Street and Davenport Park is a great area for young and old.  To put it in perspective and to name a few
    things to consider along with the residences this ‘lower west side’ of Bangor has to offer;
    three churches, several businesses including a major area bank.  A Shaws grocery store, a Rite Aid pharmacy,
    two schools (vine and fifth just outside this specific area), a homeless shelter,
    PCHC’s offices in the St. Mary’s building, the Bangor Police and Bangor Fire stations, the YWCA/YMCA
    including the Isaac Farrar Mansion, the GAR museum and the Bangor Daily News.  Myself along with several homeowners in this area
    have decided to unite and work with the city to improve the area for current
    and future generations.
     
    Regards,
     
    AWESTSIDESTORY

    1. Take the name Doughty off Fifth St. school.  Why the City ever made such an inappropriate move is beyond me.

      1. Name a building after a public works employee, Doughty was a employee and he was PAID in full for his job, Probably making 10 grand a month on a city pension also..   Hey can we name the new Arena the Cary, Tanya Arena…… 

  16. The majority of issues in this area arise from ill-kept apartment buildings that will take whatever trash that can afford to pay the rent and doesn’t mind living in squalor. Less rent = more money to buy drugs, bath salts and cause mayhem!

    The worse of the worse then flock to the area and trouble begins when their friends come to visit, and then friends of friends, and so on, I am sure you get the picture.

    Take THOSE people out of the equation, demolish the slummy apartments, or, make the landlords have to comply to codes, or, be accountable for tenant infractions involving having to call the police and the picture rapidly changes. It leaves an area with beautiful historic homes, occupied by single families, and an area to be proud of living in. AND, if there has to be apartments, ones that are well maintained and occupied by decent people.

    Single owner homes shouldn’t be tarred and feathered with the same brush that paints the hoodlums and slum lords.

    For everyone saying “bulldoze” how about stepping up and making a difference. Oh that’s right, out of sight out of mind, and you don’t care because it is not in your backyard. It is easy to be an armchair critic when it doesn’t directly involve you.

    Well, you know what I say to you. Once this area gets cleaned up, those slum lords and trashy tennants will move to some other area of Bangor, and I hope they come to your neighborhood. I hope you learn whats its like to deal with a few trashy people who can ruin the reputation of a whole area of town. Then *I* will sit back and watch you suffer and not lift a finger to help you. I will revel in your discomfort and laugh at the fact you have NO ONE to help you.

    How wonderful to live in such idyllic circumstances you think you can play God and demand what area of town should be bulldozed and what shouldn’t. take a walk down those streets and talk to some single family home owners and you will see a very different picture!

    Think about it. Be part of a solution, not part of a problem.

    1. Here’s an idea, build new rental property based on money that is not yours, make laws and ordinances and borrowing criteria that excludes everyone but your buds, then after you’ve extracted the funds up front, sell the property, and you’re good to go!

          1. “The majority of issues in this area arise from ill-kept apartment
            buildings that will take whatever trash that can afford to pay the rent
            and doesn’t mind living in squalor. Less rent = more money to buy drugs,
            bath salts and cause mayhem!”

            Or, landlords trying to keep people in their homes despite hardships with rising oil costs, cherry-picking insurance companies, unexpected lost income, and other emergencies.

            “The worse of the worse then flock
            to the area and trouble begins when their friends come to visit, and
            then friends of friends, and so on, I am sure you get the picture.”

            Oh, I get the picture. I’m a landlord.

            “Take
            THOSE people out of the equation, demolish the slummy apartments, or,
            make the landlords have to comply to codes, or, be accountable for
            tenant infractions involving having to call the police and the picture
            rapidly changes.”

            Where do THOSE people go to live? Anywhere but here, is that it?  And why should a landlord be responsible for a tenant’s behavior? Are we the babysitter? Do we move in with them so they go to bed at a reasonable hour?

             “It leaves an area with beautiful historic homes,
            occupied by single families, and an area to be proud of living in. AND,
            if there has to be apartments, ones that are well maintained and
            occupied by decent people.”

            Ah, utopia!  We’d all love to live there!

            “Single owner homes shouldn’t be tarred and feathered with the same brush that paints the hoodlums and slum lords.”

            Of course not. If you can afford to own your own home, and the bank hasn’t taken it yet, you should be revered and pampered in your desires, ie Howard St.

            “For
            everyone saying “bulldoze” how about stepping up and making a
            difference. Oh that’s right, out of sight out of mind, and you don’t
            care because it is not in your backyard. It is easy to be an armchair
            critic when it doesn’t directly involve you.”

            True. Bulldozers are a bit drastic when what you really want is to get rid of THEM whoever THEY are.

            “Well, you know what I
            say to you. Once this area gets cleaned up, those slum lords and trashy
            tennants will move to some other area of Bangor, and I hope they come
            to your neighborhood. I hope you learn whats its like to deal with a few
            trashy people who can ruin the reputation of a whole area of town. Then
            *I* will sit back and watch you suffer and not lift a finger to help
            you. I will revel in your discomfort and laugh at the fact you have NO
            ONE to help you.”

            I can see you doing that.

            “How wonderful to live in such idyllic
            circumstances you think you can play God and demand what area of town
            should be bulldozed and what shouldn’t. take a walk down those streets
            and talk to some single family home owners and you will see a very
            different picture!”

            I think you may have veered off in another direction here. I agree with you.

            “Think about it. Be part of a solution, not part of a problem.”

            Probably we should all be attending the planning board and other City Hall meetings. When’s the next one?

          2. Yes, trash! Trash that brings other trash, who deal drugs, who run around fighting in the middle of the night, walking around with weapons, breaking in to cars. THOSE people.

            If I were a landlord I would personally take great offense to someone renting my property and causing such a scene as to single handedly destroy the reputation of an entire area and make countless people miserable.

            as for your “… landlords trying to keep people in their homes despite hardships with
            rising oil costs, cherry-picking insurance companies, unexpected lost
            income, and other emergencies.” you couldn’t be any further from the truth with this statement. People who have fallen on hard times with problems paying for rent/heating oil are not the same as very young kids who dont careless about anyone but themselves, and cause trouble for the sake of it.

            maybe if THOSE people were held accountable for their actions by Bangor PD, etc, and if Landlords were held accountable for the repeated misconduct of those types of tenant, maybe we could get somewhere. Capiche?

            I am not talking about law abiding citizens who rent and have fallen on hard times, I am talking tenants dealing drugs, and people who create havoc because their life is like a soap opera! BIG difference.

          3. There will be meetings held on Wednesday, Feb. 8, and Thursday, March 1, at the James F. Doughty School auditorium.

          4. No, no need, you seem a very angry sort, and personally, I would rather read the replies of people who really want to make a difference and be proactive, instead of  the plethora of “bulldoze it”  — “lets blame all the people except the ones that are really causing the problems” — replies.

            You seem to have a beef with the city council, almost inferring that they are shady, Im not here for THAT debate, I am here to talk about the real problem behind why this area of Bangor is known as a bad area to reside, and that boils down to slumlords who dont care whose money they take.

  17. It’s a easy fix to clean up unwanted housing… first get Augusta to build and move the DHHS building and offices along with CHHS, OHI to Old Town, Second freeze Bangor Housing from building new aptartments,   Allmost like the pied piper the trail of people will go north to Old Town… all this at no expense to the taxpayers of Bangor… P.S. The city can’t finish the waterfront project and they want to start another project,  LOL!!!!!

    1. Oh yeah, foist all the garbage onto Old Town.  What about THEIR taxpayers?  I see David, it’s only about the tax PAYER not taxpayers.  It’s all making sense now.
       
      You LOST the arena vote.  PLEASE move on from it.

      1. I remember the night we were at Hollywood Slots and the announcer was trying to get the crowd excited about the arena vote. Hey, how about that vote for the new arena to be built? The place went dead silent. So, he said it again, thinking no one had heard him. It got even more silent. Yeah 75% approved….sure.

      2. The Arena is a white elephant…. Lets cut the school budget by 5 million and use that money to pay for it…

  18. last i looked at my tax statement my house (in that neighborhood)  was valued at $135,000….write me a check for $100,000 and we got a deal.

  19. Can somebody get a little in depth on this for me please without the negative and rude comments would be helpful. My biggest question is are people going to lose their homes out of this wil my son’s preschool be torn down ext and for the person that made the comment about capehart very unnessary I happene to live an capehart keep to ourselves raise our child the best we can so not everyone is the same please take that into consideration before speaking thank you and sorry about the grammar all not good with punctiation. My son goes to school on lincoln street and I’m so confused about this and worried cause of the many children that go there and will continue to go there it is a behavioral/special need school and they have helped my child so much I couldn’t imagine to all these children if they tear it down

    1. Amanda, I dont think they intend to tear any schools down, it wouldn’t be cost effective to do so.

      1. My son goes to Catch a Falling Star though and it is based out of a house type thing its a school for kids with learning disabilities and special needs so very worried but thank you for replying back

        1. try not to stress too much right now, it’s going to take a long time before all this happens, and I am sure his school would fight tooth and nail!

  20. To clarify, I really enjoy word games and sarcastic humor to wake people up. I am not in favor of bulldozing anyone’s home. I believe that property owners should decide what to do with their own property and that the city should run city services. If I offended anyone, that was not my intent. I do not appreciate some in this city who insist on benefiting themselves and their friends at the taxpayer’s expense. We all call Bangor home, rich and poor alike. Enough with the favoritism of one street over another and the vilifying of one neighborhood over another! If the locals want to save the city, let’s stop taxing people silly and start supporting our merchants by buying local!

    1. As I understand, the city intends to use what it does in this one area and then move on and tackle the next area of Bangor needing help. it will be a slow process I am sure. No one area is more deserving of another, I totally agree, however, I think the areas targeted right now just fell in to the area the council wanted to tackle due to the arena and concerts.

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