WARREN, Maine — Bob Emery Jr. has taken a lot of heat for working to bring a proposed methadone clinic to this Knox County town. He has lost business at his construction company, he said. Half his staff has quit over the controversy. His family has been targeted and is upset. But he won’t let it go. For him, it’s not about business. This is about his son.
In 2004, his son, Robert Emery III, who was 20, went snowmobiling with his friends in Rockwood, near Moosehead Lake. He was accelerating when he misjudged a corner. In a second, his back slammed into a tree and his snowmobile kept him pinched there. He ruptured two disks, pinched off several nerves and aggravated his already painful scoliosis in the accident, doctors found. For his pain, the doctor gave Robert oxycodone, a narcotic.
It helped for a while, but after a year the medicine stopped having any effect.
“I built up a tolerance for them. My normal prescription wasn’t helping me,” Robert said.
When he went to his doctor, the doctor refused to increase the dosage. The pain became unbearable. When Robert sat, he hurt. When he stood, the pain was excruciating. It didn’t stop during any minute of the day or night. He couldn’t sleep.
“That’s when I started self-medicating and buying stuff on the street,” Robert said.
It got scary fast. He worried about how quickly he had become numb to the oxycodone and he wanted to quit using it. So Robert tried to stop altogether in 2005.
“That’s when I learned about withdrawals. The first withdrawal was the worst thing I’ve ever been through,” he said. “My whole body was in pain, hot and cold sweats, all my joints were aching. I couldn’t sleep. I’d get so sick and throw up. I lasted two days.”
All he knew was that he was in a lot of pain and needed more drugs to make it go away. According to Robert, he never felt high from the drugs — he just felt like he was in less pain. He went back to the streets for relief. Robert’s entire life became consumed by drugs. He had been prescribed 60 mg of oxycodone a day by his doctor. Soon, he was up to 300 mg or more per day, although sometimes he had to settle for Vicodin or Percocet.
He stopped showing up for work. He stopped cleaning his house. He stopped going outside. He didn’t care about fishing or hanging out with his family anymore.
“It got to the point where I was not caring about any of my things. To give you an example, in 2007 I had a 2005 Harley Davidson Sportster 1200, brand new, a beautiful bike,” Robert said. “It got to the point where one day I was out of money and sick [from withdrawal] and was desperate. Without thinking about it at all I called a friend that I was buying [drugs] off of and sold my Harley to him for 30 oxycodone pills. It breaks my heart.”
The bike had cost him $12,000. He had sold it for two day’s worth of pills with a street value of about $1,000.
And that’s how life was for Robert. For four more years.
“Anything of any value I had I’d pawn or sell to get more drugs,” Robert said. “Every day I was searching and hunting for the next pill. That consumed every minute of my every day. That’s how it was until 2009. I had sold everything I had. All my belongings, everything I worked so hard for — everything was gone. That’s when I hit rock bottom. I started realizing I needed to do something about it.”
He went back to his doctor, who gave him suboxone, a prescription drug intended to help individuals become less dependent on opiates such as heroin. It worked for a couple months before the cravings for pills overtook him. He tried suboxone again — five more times. It just didn’t work for him. That’s when he heard about methadone, a synthetic narcotic used to help people who are addicted to opiates.
By then it was 2010 and the Turning Tide methadone clinic was operating two towns over, in Rockland. He attended one session and the next day began his dose of methadone.
“That first day when I got there I felt ill — I was not taking anything. They tell you not to do anything the day before. An hour and a half later I came out of it and started feeling OK. As the day went on I started feeling OK,” Robert said. “I wasn’t thinking about pills. Things were going good. I thought, ‘This might work.’ I kept going back.”
Soon he was back to work. He went fishing with his friends again. He was on better terms with his family, and, overall, he cared about his life again.
Then, unexpectedly, the Rockland methadone clinic was shut down by federal agents who arrested the clinic’s owner for doing drugs. The federal Drug Enforcement Agency said Turning Tide had become a danger to public safety.
“My heart sunk. What am I going to do now?” Robert said.
He was reassigned to a Waterville clinic, which was a four-hour round trip each day. In his ¾-ton pickup, it cost about $200 in gas plus about $100 for his treatments each week.
“Four months in, I was struggling. I was really struggling financially,” he said.
He gave up and tried to get off all drugs, cold turkey, but only lasted three days before buying pills off the street. After a month of that, he realized he needed methadone. So he sold his truck for a 4-cylinder car to save on gas and made daily trips to a Portland clinic for months before he started doing research and found a doctor near him who prescribes methadone. Now he goes there monthly for his methadone and a drug test. He goes to counseling each week and has been sober on methadone for 13 months.
“Things are going awesome. They’re great now,” Robert said. “I’m not lying. I’m not cheating. I’m not stealing. I was stealing from my family and friends. I stole a lot of money off my own dad to get pills. I wouldn’t even think of doing something like that now. I got my conscience back. Back then I didn’t have one.”
The stealing part was the thing that most upset his father, with whom he is close. After all, his dad, Bob Emery, owns the business Robert was stealing from — and he had only built those companies for his kids to inherit one day. But for the last 13 months, things have been great.
“Ever since I started methadone, my dad saw a huge change in me. He was the happiest guy alive,” Robert said. “When I first mentioned [methadone] to him, he didn’t like the idea — he was skeptical like everyone is now. He said I was just trading one drug for another. I see why some people might think that’s true, but it’s not. It totally turned my life around.”
Robert might be considered one of the lucky ones. He found a doctor near him who would treat him with methadone. But it’s unlikely that the 280 people who were served by the Turning Tide clinic in Rockland all are now getting the same treatment — in fact, according to the state office on substance abuse, only about 85 percent of those people successfully transferred to another clinic.
When Bob Emery Jr., 58, of Rockport, watched his son turn his life around through the Rockland clinic and then struggle through withdrawals and draining his pockets with his four-hour, round-trip drives to a new clinic, Emery knew he had to get involved. He started calling everyone involved with methadone treatment in Maine. Soon, he got in touch with Guy Cousins at the state’s substance abuse office, who told him CRC Healthgroups, a methadone clinic business, was looking to move to Maine. For more than a year, he’s been working diligently to find CRC a home in Warren, and it hasn’t been easy, he said. After losing a deal with the town to purchase an old school building for the clinic, he’s offered up his own business headquarters on Route 1, which is being considered by the town to be the new site.
It has cost his business. Picketers sometimes hold anti-methadone signs and wear buttons outside the office of his construction company. He has been called a drug dealer and there have been nasty things said about his family. Several of his employees have quit over the controversy. But he won’t stop fighting.
“I’m here to help. [When Robert was on pills] it was a devastating time. Things have changed tremendously. I know no matter how bad it gets, I’m the one who has always been there for him. I want to help these people. There must be, in these 280 people, people who just want to be healthy again. That’s why I’ve done everything I’ve done,” said Bob Emery. “As long as I’m living and breathing, if there is anything I can do to help these people and my son, I will.”



Amen!
(Cue all the negative crap-talk from people who can never bother themselves with looking anything up. All mouth, no brains, full of opinions with no substance.)
It takes about an average of two years to stabilize from Methadone.
Without the proper support systems in place, (family support, friends, good health insurance, good paying job), people who struggle with addiction can and do easily fall through the cracks.
We all know that some people have an inner motivation and some don’t. Same goes for asking for help for a problem.
Those that want help for their pill addiction use methadone to help them get off opiates, those that oppose the clinics just shut the door in these people’s faces. Simple as that.
Compassion and help OR ridicule, judgment and NO HELP, GO SCREW.
Good on this Dad for not being a hypocrite.
I know a person who has been going to the clinic for 7 yrs. a bit ridiculous, I think.
Not if they became addicted to opiates due to pain management issues.
As an addict I tell my docs what I can take and cant take. They have a voice. They should use it. They knew the drugs were bad news. Ask for something different. I do it. They got addicted, They continued their addictions. They need to find a way to get off of it on someone elses dime.
I know someone who has been on it, and state assistance with 7 kids who all get SSI. As a recovering alcoholic/addict who got sober and clean on Alcoholics Anonymous and a lot of hard looking at myself i say…….clean up your own mess dad. I shouldnt have to pay for it and people should not make a profit on addiction. And they are…I dont care what you say someone is making a profit on these clinics.
NA by itself would be extremely unlikely to work for opiate addiction. It’s an entirely different substance than alcohol. The withdrawl has significant differences.
I have many friends who, through NA, got off worse drugs than opiates. i was addicted to opiates by the time I was 4 years old. It was prescribed as a sedative to make me sleep by a moron of a doctor. Dont tell me what works or doesnt. I work with kids whose parents tand in methadone lines all day. They dont have jobs, they live off the state. I you goto a low income housing development you will find at least 1/2 of the people who rent there addicted to something and most of them are addicted to methadone. If you want to argue ind yourself someone who has never been addicted and gotten off of it without whining. Someone who waited for a handout instead of did the work on themselves. That isnt me.
Read my post i said alcoholic/addict. Alcohol is the most dangerous drug to give up cold turkey. I gave drugs and alcohol up. I was addicted to opiates. I did it through AA because my area doesnt have NA. Do your research before you argue with someone who knows what they are talking about. If they really want to change they will but you gotta wanna and they dont.
Good for you! Congratulations. It’s a good point about attending AA. Cognitive behavioral therapy is basically bringing awareness about a problem be it alcohol or drugs. I still say alcohol is by far the WORST and most miserable thing for a person who is addicted to get off of.
I have no problem with methadone use as an means to an end, but at some point, the methadone must end. Otherwise (IMO) one is simply trading one addiction for another. This is where cognitive behavioral therapy (such as the 12 step-like programs) can help.
I still think that people have to hit a personal ‘rock bottom’ before they’re motivated enough to change their behaviors so drastically. If they are stopped (by whatever means) just shy of that rock bottom, they’ll never dig their way back out.
Kudos to you.
got that right, as a contractor ive been in one ,money stacked 6 inches deep in the office.thousands of pills in bottles,people lined up out the door,in front of little tiny windows ,step up give your number ,no names,get you pills and go.
how is his son breaking his back in an accident his mess? how is the fact the pain became unbearable he had to do what he had to do for quality of life his mess?? as a HUMAN BEING who broke his back in a car accident ( driver fell asleep) who became addicted to narcotic pain pills PRESCRIBED by a doctor, DIDN”T abuse them. took them as i was supposed to. but i STILL got addicted.. and by your own statements it’s MY mess? in your eyes i apologize that the pain was unbearable and i did what i was TOLD TO DO by a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, and now am paying for it dearly. . hopefully you never have to deal with ANY of the same. wouldn’t want you to have to clean up your “own mess”… ignorance truly becomes you
Most people who get methadone treatment are very much like the man in this story. Yes, there are some that abuse it and aren’t trying to rebuild their lives…but you can’t punish and pull the rug out from under all of those who are genuinely trying their best just because of a few abusers.
it’s more than a “few abusers”
Are you really saying that …there are 1,700 methadone addicts in the Bangor area created by local doctors and hospitals?
These people are not all from the Bangor area. They travel from all over the state.
Many have moved from outlying rural areas because obviously, they can’t afford to run back and forth anymore.
A local housing community has a 10 year waiting list. No joke.
Thank you, Mr. Emery, for your compassion. I hope this article helps others to understand without them having to go through what you did.
A well-written article that puts a face on opioid addiction.
However, if the citizens of Warren do not want a methadone clinic in their town, then their voices and votes should be respected.
It’s actually better to have a clinic than have people have to resort to getting prescriptions from doctors. If they get a prescription they pick up multiple doses and carry them. This increases the risk of methadone finding it’s way onto the streets. With clinics people come to the clinic to get a dose each day. It just needs to be operated by someone who doesn’t have a history of addiction.
Why does it have to be in Warren? Wouldn’t Rockland or Cahhhmden be a better place?
Why aren’t methadone treatments, blood tests and counseling provided at hospitals? Hospitals already provide drugs, blood tests, counseling, etc. for other ailments in an established setting.
There is a methodone clinic at Acadia Hospital in Bangor. 700 people per day use the clinic.
And I’d like a true accounting of how many of them still do street drugs on top if it. Yes, yes, before anyone flames me, I know people have been helped a great deal by them, but there are plenty others who aren’t and never will be.
There are two more besides Acadia – each with a high client count.
I agree. There also needs to be a shot off point. It can’t be a lifetime drug dealership. What I’ve seen of it, appears to me to be a free drug option or they are getting it for their friends and they are on something else. I don’t get it but I know one thing their eyes are glossed over and they are on something. I’m no doctor, but glossy eyes that can’t focus, aren’t a sign of being drug free.
There are some people who will need to take methadone for the rest of their lives. There are people who have terrible pain that will not go away and the only really effective pain killers for severe pain is opiates. That’s how a lot of people end up addicted in the first place. Resistance builds, the recommended dose stops working for pain management so people take more than they are supposed to or the dose even gets increased. Before they know it…they’re addicted. Folks like that will most likely have to take it forever unless some kind of surgery will resolve the long term pain.
People have been in pain for hundreds of throusands of years before designer pain killers were chemically engineered. Addiction is a problem because at some point the general consenus became that it was a “right” to be pain free.
That’s right, it’s called evolution. Much like driving isn’t a “right”, but you probably do that. I’m sure you would opt for some lidocaine before getting a cavity filled, or chose to have anesthesia administered before surgery, even though back in the day, patients were held down while biting on a stick.
Hundreds of thousands? I’m assuming you do not realize humans have only existed for 200,000, and for three fourths of that period of time they were very likely not concerned about pain.
Are you saying that people do not have a right to live their lives without the type of pain that Mr. Emery, and 75 million Americans, have to endure everyday? I believe everyone deserves the right to live without pain, just as everyone deserves the right to be given medical treatment for life threatening conditions, such as cancer or AIDS. Only a sociopath with a complete lack of empathy, for any person whatsoever, would condemn the sick and the suffering that way.
Pain has been treated with opium since roughly 3400b.c., and people have been using its derivatives for only a couple hundred years. Human beings have been using opium, which contains morphine and codeine, for over 5000 years. If what you are saying is true, then the “general consensus” that it is a right for people to live life without severe chronic pain came over 5000 years ago.
So, it is reasonable to believe that the medical use opium and all of its derivatives, semi-synthetic or synthetic, is not the problem within human civilization. The problem is the use of these drugs outside the context of medicine, where many people often delve deep into the depths of addiction where they can never really leave. There is also a problem with medical use and pseudo-addiction, which can also risk become a full fledged addiction where the addict compromises their entire life just for the drugs.
You’re right, addiction is a problem. But it should be treated as a health and mental problem, not a legal problem. We don’t need to criminalize their behavior in order to help them get better. In fact, the drug war is one big example that criminalizing drug use makes everything worse.
Hundreds of thousands? I’m assuming you do not realize humans have only existed for 200,000, and for three fourths of that period of time they were very likely not concerned about pain.
Are you saying that people do not have a right to live their lives without the type of pain that Mr. Emery, and 75 million Americans, have to endure everyday? I believe everyone deserves the right to live without pain, just as everyone deserves the right to be given medical treatment for life threatening conditions, such as cancer or AIDS. Only a sociopath with a complete lack of empathy, for any person whatsoever, would condemn the sick and the suffering that way.
Pain has been treated with opium since roughly 3400b.c., and people have been using its derivatives for only a couple hundred years. Human beings have been using opium, which contains morphine and codeine, for over 5000 years. If what you are saying is true, then the “general consensus” that it is a right for people to live life without severe chronic pain came over 5000 years ago.
So, it is reasonable to believe that the medical use opium and all of
its derivatives, semi-synthetic or synthetic, is not the problem within
human civilization. The problem is the use of these drugs outside the
context of medicine, where many people often delve deep into the depths
of addiction where they can never really leave. There is also a problem
with medical use and pseudo-addiction, which can also risk become a full
fledged addiction where the addict compromises their entire life just
for the drugs.
You’re right, addiction is a problem. But it should be treated as a
health and mental problem, not a legal problem. We don’t need to
criminalize their behavior in order to help them get better. In fact,
the drug war is one big example that criminalizing drug use makes
everything worse.
NIMBY,EH?
Rockland might be a better location. According to the accompanying article in the BDN there’s a methadone clinic proposed there, which might moot Emery’s proposal for a clinic in Warren.
Why NOT Warren?
actually even the methadone clinics offer a weeks worth of take home. it comes in a liquid form. they’res no way to tell how much your taking and it also ends up on the street… but i guess your logic is still there… don’t get me wrong i’m all for places for addicts to turn to get help when they’re ready to get it. honestly i think we need more of them. our state ranks in the top 3 states per capita for drug addiction, and yet our states closing all options for people with addictions to turn… HUGE props to this dad for taking a stand to help the less fortunate, however it’s going to take alot more than one person to change the messed up system already in place, and hopefully this story brings attention to a matter that MOST DEFINITELY needs attention.
Yes, people do eventually get carries, but I’m pretty sure they have to earn that privilege by showing they are trustworthy. Of course that’s not always going to work out. Instead of shutting down Dorothea Dix they should open up all the wings that are closed and make it a rehab facility. People need more than a few days of rehab for it to be effective.
earn the “privilege’- get caught breaking it, but somehow get that ” privilege’ back- and around it keeps going.
I agree with opening up more beds at DDPC; however, quite a few hard core drug addicts are incredible actors.
Actually, clinics (at least, the one in Waterville) do allow some of them to take home their weekend dosage. They don’t do it for all of the people; only those who have demonstrated over a given period of time that they won’t abuse the privilege. A former neighbor used to do it.
not true .. unless things have changed.. that is how they do it in the beginning of treatment .. come to the clinic for daily dose.. then they will dispense a weeks worth or more to a trusted addict… and of course it the meth gets on the street… there is no argument there.. we have tons of experience with it
“take homes” of methadone need to be stopped cause they sell it, clearly these are people that really don’t want help at all- just the money it brings them.
morning coffe you have no idea…. i was on methadone for many years and today i am drug free, of course there are those who aquire the meds and sell them but should that end all treatment? loads of people with legitimate prescriptions for painkillers are doing the same soo what stop prescribing pain pills to any and all who need them? i travelled daily from millinocket to portland then to waterville then bangor as there were openings i was able to get closer to home and after a long while i got take homes able to re enter the work force be home on christmas , but u dont care u dont know as much as you think you do..
read it closely now- it says ”
clearly these are people that really don’t want help at all- just the money it brings them.” And oh yes I do have an ‘idea” kinda hard not to notice when one sees it happen everyday. And it’s from the one’s that clearly are not there to better themselves, just their wallets!
really you know for a fact that everyone that gets take homes sells it>?? so how many people do you know who get take homes?? i know a few in my family. and knowing they’re taking one dose in the morning and going to work all day beats the HELL out of the thought of them running around to score street drugs, or of them ODing on the side of road somewhere, or getting arrested. . . not EVERYONE that goes to the clinic abuses it. stop ASSuming. as stated before hopefully none of your (critics of treatment facilities) family members every have to face addiction, judging by your comments they won’t be able to count on you for support
yes, I know 3 that do- and 1 being an ex family member- which was stopped at 1 point, and got the privilege back AGAIN, and all are selling it AGAIN!
and trying to stop it- forget it- don’t do any good, heck, we’ve tried! That’s how they got stopped from it, but it wasn’t a month, and got it all back! AND NOOOOO- not all my family- 1 EX in-law- – we have tried to stop them/him- As I stated- it is not fair to the ones that really want the help- get it now? probably not!
so JUST because your family can’t follow the rules, everyone else who does should have to pay for it>??? doesn’t seem fair to me, and i’m sure alot of other people will feel the same
Perhaps if Mr Emery had been more open and upfront with his community about his objectives they would have been better received. I am sure the fact that CRC Healthgroups filled an ADA law suit that is costing his friends and neighbors money may have something to do with the cold shoulder he is getting.
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Yay just super, now he is wasted everyday on Methedone and is crying for us to pay the bills. These clinics are just fronts for drug dealers, and these people seem to get off drugs in prison.
Doesn’t sound to me like he’s “wasted.” Sounds like he’s able to lead a normal life.
You should read up on the 24 – 36 hour high that methedone gives these guys.
and they drive after taking it – been plenty of accidents cause of it as I know- been in paper, some have, others I/ we know of are even more. They shouldn’t be allowed to drive themselves to and fro- just saying.
sounds like if anyone needs to read up on it, it’d most definitly be you. the “high” off methadone doesn’t last 24-36 hours. the half life of the drug and it’s affects to treat addiction do. i’m guessing you haven’t read up on methadone or care to for that matter. just figured you’d put your 2 cents in, regardless of how untrue and worthless it is. trying looking up the facts before you show your true ignorance towards addiction. good day =x
and the doctors are… DRUG DEALERS. and big pharmaceutical DRUG DEALERS
IMO the Father and son should move to a town where there is already a methadone clinic. It would affect them a lot less than a whole town after a clinic is built in Knox County.
cue all the police state and cop lovers who say they made choices and should suffer wrong I say
A little confuse dhere.The grandson had realpain from the scoliosis and the injury,right? And since the pills must have been prescribed to him,how did this become a bad situation? Does one get addicted to pills even if one is legit? Not trying to make trouble,just asking.I thought that your bodys pain receptors just kinda absorb the medication if it is taken as recommended? Or does this mean that he took way way more than was prescribed? Just wondering.Poor guy,he seems very sincere.Hope things work out….
Your body will eventually build up a tolerance to these drugs if taken over time. It’s like that with most anything. If you drink coffee it takes more for the caffeine to work, drink alcohol you build up a tolerance. Even over the counter medications will cease to work if taken long enough. It’s a sad situation for this man and a risk that anyone takes when they have to take a narcotic for pain. I’ve seen addictions to these meds come from people inside my own family. The intentions are good but eventually it takes more and more for the meds to work as intended. Happy to see he’s getting his life back together. Hope he can be a model for others with the same problem.
You build up a high tolerance for your pain meds fast. Pretty soon, nothing works to kill your pain…and you are sick as a dog when you don’t have it…not difficult to get addicted to NOT being sick and in pain.
(To be clear, I don’t know this from 1st hand experience, but I have taken many med courses, and I know several sweet, kind people who were on methadone, and I usually do my homework before talking :))
So,when the tolerance is reached,nothing will stop the pain?
Eventually, yes…unless they resort to illicit drugs, injecting and then eventually going on methadone…or sometimes suboxone depending on their situation.
Yes, people with long term pain issues do often get addicted to opiates. While opiates are the most effective medication for pain, they are also HIGHLY addictive and you build a tolerance so the dose needs to be raised. It’s a horrible situation for anyone who has severe pain, a very delicate balancing act…and it is SO easy for someone in that situation to become addicted without any intent of being careless or irresponsible.
I believe that the pain meds were prescribed to him when he was still a teen. This is prime time for easy addiction to drugs, including alcohol. The majority of addicts are turned onto drugs in their early teens. The human brain is much easier to addict the earlier it is exposed to drugs.
Walking tall through a community of squeaking nimby’s. I remember the priest on a long gone tv show of the 60’s whose motto was “Its better to light one little candle than curse the darkness.”
So Knox County can experience the wonder that is a bath salts epidemic…
i am surprised nobody has jumped on the “why are MY tax dollars even being spent on this?” issue
I’ll reply…………you hit the nail on the head. Why in H__LL would I want to work a 10 hour day to listen to these cry-baby users who made bad choices say “pay for my treatment?” Sick of it. Grow a ____ . SO SICK OF EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I pay for my own treatment, cash. I’m sick of hearing people complain and whine when they don’t know anything about what they are whining about.
Glad someone does, for a lot of them just don’t . They get more money back in just 1 week of mileage and all just for going, and then sell their take-homes. Heck, I see it everyday, and the ones that do this, make more money then at least 10 hardworking Mainers in a weeks time, then the 10-30 that work for a full month. Nice vehicles and more then just one too. Makes me sick to be honest . Good luck on ‘kicking’ your habit, Vannessa. Keep up the good work!
First, I’m not on methadone, refuse to touch it. I don’t understand why people are getting $ to go to the clinic. It does cost A LOT to get treatment if you don’t have insurance (like me). I don’t agree with handouts or getting paid for mileage. And your figures are waaay off with the 30 mainers bit. It makes me sick too; sure, I abused the system a little, but I paid cash for all my appointments and everything that took me to rock bottom and now I am working full time (STILL) and paying cash to get my life back up from rock bottom and back on track.
Holier than thou
so if your son or daughter, mother or father, brother or sister became addicted to anything, you wouldn’t support their recovery in anyway shape or form? not ALL people who are in treatment get state help. I my self work, pay my own insurance, don’t get A N Y help from state or fed govt. and not all addicts made “bad choices” to bring them to their addiction, i my self was the PASSENGER in a motor vehicle accident, where the driver fell asleep, i now have a broken back in 3 spots, doctor prescribed my meds, i took them as he told me to. but am now dependent on them for QUALITY of life…. now where in this statement did I MAKE a bad choice???? not everything in life is as plain as black and white, not even close
With gov LePage’s proposed cuts to MaineCare, this clinic might not get off the ground. I wish this young man the best in his efforts at recovery.
My wife is a recovering addict who has been free of narcotics for 9 years. I am glad that she had two doctors who gave her much better advice than some I see in newspapers.
……..”sober on methadone”………
Try stopping your methadone and see how quick you will be in withdrawl.
The last thing my wife was taking was….methadone. The “maintenance dose” idea did not work for her. It is the nature of narcotics that more is needed over time to have the same effect. Our doctor told me that what she was taking, daily, at it’s worst, would kill half a dozen people, maybe more.
It is a synthetic narcotic that works the same way any narcotic works.
I give this young man great credit for getting to where he is, but he is still in precarious position. Addiction is for life, most of the time, and ususally a shorter one.
Several doctors have asked my wife how she did it. She has a very stubborn personality that was a great help, plus strong family support.
Though I am not sure that methadone is a good long term answer, it is better than dealing on the street and treatment is far better than jail for addicts.
Addicts are sick people and should be treated for their illness, as my wife was. Unfortunately there are way too many people making money in law enforcement and lawyering, to ever make it legal and treat everypne who needs it.
Suboxone is a MUCH better option…but it’s not usually the first choice because it costs significantly more.
Very true. I do suboxone treatment, I refused to even try methadone. I didn’t care about the cost, I wasn’t going to touch methadone to kick my habit.
I don’t want to stereotype, got a tattoo of my own, but dad, seriously, how much of a dad were you? Seems like tats were a little more important than being a dad. Go talk to Jesse James.
I never heard of a tradeoff, such as getting tattoos = not being a good dad.
I kinda thought grandad looks like one of those cranked bikers from the 80’s too. I wouldn’t hire a gangster to work on my house either. Best of luck getting through this difficult time though.
This young man needn’t have become an addict.There are various means to treat chronic pain out there, pain clinics. There are places that specialize in treating back pain. I would be scared to take any narcotic- addiction can happen to anyone.perhaps part of the problem is that doctors prescribe too much of them, I am not sure. But I am also not sure that Methadone clinics are the answer, they seem like a bandaid, you are still actively addicted, not treated….you have just gone form one chemical to another, that happens to be legal. I wish this young man well.. As he has said, he has lied & cheated & illegally gotten drugs…now he has a permanant fix, he no longer needs to lie & cheat- but he is not a recovering addict either- he remains actively addicted. I have the greatest respect for recovering addicts.
This is incorrect. Addiction and physical dependence are two very different things. Physical dependence occurs anytime anyone takes a narcotic medication for more thaqn a couple of weeks, regardless if they take it as prescribed or not. Many chronic pain and cancer patients are dependent on these meds without being “addicted”. Addiction involves a set of behaviors in addition to physical dependence–behaviors which are not present in the vast majority of pain pill patients, and also in the majority (65%) of stabilized methadone patients. Many people are “dependent” on various meds–meaning they would experience negative physical symptoms–if abruptly stopped, including diabetics, epileptics, schizophrenics, certain anti depressants also cause this, etc. Does that make them “addicts” or mean they should nolt take them because they will be ill if they don’t?
People come INTO MMT because they are addicts. However, if they use the medication as prescribed and are not engaging in the behaviors that define addiction while on MMT, they cannot be said medically to be “addicted” to methadone, though they are physically dependent.
I agree with most of what you said- however, the key is in changing the “addictive” behavior, & I rarely have seen that work. The young man in question has been exhibiting addictive behavior & it need not have happened.
Pseudo-addiction is not the same as addiction. What this young man is exhibiting is pseudo addiction. He was not an addict before his injury and pain treatment, was he? He became dependent and then addicted because of the fact he was being treated for severe chronic pain. He was being prescribed a pretty large dose for someone who was not an addict and was not yet exposed to the opiates for a prolonged period of time. His chances of NOT becoming addicted were just about nil.
You say “it need not have happened,” but I think you are failing to understand that it was inevitable because of his condition and treatment. The only way it “need not have happened” was if he decided to forgo the opiate pain treatment, which would be going against the orders of a doctor. So, if you expect this young man to be tough enough to endure and suffer the severe, constant, and intractable pain he was experiencing from his injury, I just have one question; Would YOU be willing to forgo the opiate pain treatment if you were in his position, with a severe and painful injury? If you can honestly say yes, then go ahead and judge him and everyone else in the world using opiate pain medications. But I’d bet big money that you could not possibly go without that medication with an injury like his, and if you cannot admit that and ease your judgement of this young man, then you are just another hypocrite.
Not to be sarcastic, but from what you say, any addict can only be “pseudo-addicted”. This young man could have chosen other alternatives to pain. I am not at all saying that ANYONE should suffer. But there are many ways of dealing with pain, which I mentioned above. But I am not sure I believe in pseudo-addiction….they all have a good reason ( to them) for taking opioids- it may have started out from a doctor, it may have started out from some kind of psychic pain, it may have started out from peer pressure…..all kinds of reasons. yet when what you are calling addictive behavior starts, such as stealing & lying & hurting others etc….are they all psuedo addicts? In other words, their anti-social behavior would stop as long as they get their fix, therefore they are physically dependent, but not true addicts. I am confused. But I am NOT a hypocrite, anyone, including myself, could become an addict…hopefully I would choose another road, & yes, I have had severe pain before., and did not become addicted because I di NOT abuse my doctors prescriptions- I sucked it up….pain is pain, we all know what it is.
Not to be sarcastic, but from what you say, any addict can only be “pseudo-addicted”. This young man could have chosen other alternatives to pain. I am not at all saying that ANYONE should suffer. But there are many ways of dealing with pain, which I mentioned above. But I am not sure I believe in pseudo-addiction….they all have a good reason ( to them) for taking opioids- it may have started out from a doctor, it may have started out from some kind of psychic pain, it may have started out from peer pressure…..all kinds of reasons. yet when what you are calling addictive behavior starts, such as stealing & lying & hurting others etc….are they all psuedo addicts? In other words, their anti-social behavior would stop as long as they get their fix, therefore they are physically dependent, but not true addicts?. I am confused. But I am NOT a hypocrite, anyone, including myself, could become an addict…hopefully I would choose another road, & yes, I have had severe pain before., and did not become addicted because I did NOT abuse my doctors prescriptions- I sucked it up….pain is pain, we all know what it is.
Ummm your body becomes addicted to opiates if you use it long term for chronic pain, whether you abuse it or not. If you take oxycodone as prescribed for a year and then stop, you will still suffer withdrawals. It has nothing to do with abuse, it’s the way the human body works.
This is incorrect. Addiction and physical dependence are two very different things. Physical dependence occurs anytime anyone takes a narcotic medication for more thaqn a couple of weeks, regardless if they take it as prescribed or not. Many chronic pain and cancer patients are dependent on these meds without being “addicted”. Addiction involves a set of behaviors in addition to physical dependence–behaviors which are not present in the vast majority of pain pill patients, and also in the majority (65%) of stabilized methadone patients. Many people are “dependent” on various meds–meaning they would experience negative physical symptoms–if abruptly stopped, including diabetics, epileptics, schizophrenics, certain anti depressants also cause this, etc. Does that make them “addicts” or mean they should nolt take them because they will be ill if they don’t?
People come INTO MMT because they are addicts. However, if they use the medication as prescribed and are not engaging in the behaviors that define addiction while on MMT, they cannot be said medically to be “addicted” to methadone, though they are physically dependent.
Taking a med as prescribed to treat a medical condition (endorphin deficiency syndrome) occurs in an improvement in allover health, abilities, and quality of life. Abusing a medication leads to the opposite.
So was this before or after the son was indicted for class B burglary?
The burglary was most likely done in desperation to ward of withdrawl. That’s what happens when opiate addicts become desperate. The withdrawl is incredibly nasty.
And like most addicts in treatment programs, the real reason he is in “treatment” is because he finally got caught and he was given a choice. Rehab or jail.
Methadone treatment is not at all the same as the treatment that you are talking about. It is not the same as a rehab clinic.
If Robert Emery thinks the withdrawal symptoms from oxy’s is bad, wait till he attempts to stop methadone.
1. He most likely is not planning on stopping methadone, ever. Most patients on methadone treatment for heroin addiction are never going to be able to live without taking opiate or opiod medications and drugs. At their point, it is all about mitigation, control, and prevention of relapse on heroin. Emery is being treated for both his pain condition and his past heroin/opiate addiction, which means he will probably be on methadone, in some type of capacity, for the rest of his life. Which is why you should never abuse opiate drugs….it can really be a problem that never goes away.
2. Methadone withdrawal is really no different from any other opiate withdrawals. The physiological response is the same with any of the many opiate derived drugs. The absence of the drugs in the blood stream, thereby ending opiates in the blood stream, which mean nothing can reach the brain receptors. When this happens, the withdrawal symptoms will kick in, and they will be the same whether the drug used was heroin, morphine, oxycodone, or methadone. This is a medical and scientific fact that has been written about in medical journals.
Having worked in a jail for 8 years and interacting with inmates that were going through withdrawals, I can only say that virtually everyone of them who had gone through withdrawals from several different drugs said that methadone withdrawals were the worst. They typically lasted much longer. The jail has three different medication protocols to help the inmates through their withdrawal symptoms one for opiates, one for acohol, one for methadone.
It’s a shame that Mr Emery seems to feel that the objective of methadone treatment is to get people off methadone. That may be the case for certain patients, but many, by the time they reach a clinic, have been using opioid drugs for years and have sustained permanent changes to the brain chemistry that inhibit the brain from producing endorphins (our natural opiates) ever again. These folks may also include those who never had a normal production of natural endorphins before they ever began using drugs as well, and were basically self medicating a brain chemistry disorder. These patient populations may require long term–even life long–treatment with methadone or suboxone in order to maintain a stable brain chemistry and prevent relapse due to severe depression, anhedonia, exhaustion, irritability and despair.
The belief that the goal of treatment is to stay on the lowest possible dose one can bear and get off as soon as possible leads to a relapse rate of about 90% within the first year. Many clinics, unfortunately, do not tell patients and their families this, and they become revolving door patients–getting off treatment due to family pressures or misunderstandings, relapsing, and returning to MMT feeling as though they have failed. Those who remain IN treatment tend to do much better statistically in all areas, but often receive little support for their decision.
I agree with you, and thank you for explaining this clearly.
I challenge you to obtain ANY treatment and relapse figures from Acadia. You will NEVER get them.
I am speaking of general USA figures all clinics must report.
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“Many clinics do not tell their patients this…”
Why would they? Most of them are for-profit.
I think he was more interested in keeping his son from self medicating, where he can easily get out of control and misuse and abuse the medications. No one, in their right mind, really thinks methadone clinics are to get people off methadone.
Having spent the last five years working at Acadia Hospital, I will say the issue is not the methadone clinics themselves, it is the loose standards and rules the clinics apply to their patients (yes, Acadia Hospital is included). In my experience a majority of the people coming to the clinic use it as front for selling and socializing with other addicts, and while some of the patients there are actively seeking help, most are not. In some cases, issued take home doses are being sold or traded for other drugs. Group therapy has turned from active treatment into a meeting place where plans for that night or weekend can be made between patients. And while most clinics claim they do mandatory drug testing, I have personally seen several patients get out of test citing they were dehydrated and couldn’t urinate for an entire 8 hour period they were required to be at the clinic for “treatment”. Let me be very clear that I am not opposed to methadone being used to treat addiction, but I am opposed to the current treatment model most clinics in this country have adopted. Another thing I am sick of the amount of empathy these addicts receive. A large amount of the general population will claim that all of these addicts have underlying mental health issues, and in some cases they do, but trust me having spent fives years working with this population, a lot of them are lazy, collect SSI, honestly like doing drugs, and regardless of the amount of years they remain in treatment will never be cured because they do not want to be. I am not stereotyping, and I personally invite any single person that wants to dispute any of the facts I claim to apply for a job at any methadone clinic and experience it first hand. Until some type of major overhaul is in place to effectively treat these patients, I am personally opposed to any clinic opening anywhere.
The biggest problem is doctors also prescribing benzodiazepines to people on methadone.
Yes. You are very correct in that statement.
NO! If you read Bangorburger’s first hand account of what happens at the methadone clinics, the biggest problem is that treatment at these facilities is for-profit, and the patients are also gaming the system.
You have a point. However, Oldwench is also correct.
a statement of profound truth amongst the gossiping and babbling
Very true. Not just methadone, but any opiate or opiod. Any doctor who prescribes benzodiazepines with opiate or opiod pain medication should not be able to practice medicine. A huge majority of the deaths caused by drug overdose, especially in regard to opiates like oxycodone, are actually caused by drug overdose by poly drug intoxication. When people mix their pain medication with other powerful prescription drugs, like xanax or valium, it creates a synergistic effect which can cause severe respiratory depression. That will make you stop breathing, and ultimately die, which is exactly what happens in most opiate overdose drug deaths in the US.
That is in no way to downplay the risk of death from overdose on narcotic pain medications. A person can still easily die from misuse or abuse of opiate drugs.
I worked at DDPC for 18 years before having to go out for back surgery. Do to other complications, no not drugs, I retired. I too saw the same thing with some of the people at the Methadone clinic. They stand outside trading their pills among themselves and seem oblivious to what is going on around them. I’ve also ridden public transportation and heard their stories as they go get their daily fix or they are returning home from their fix. They seem to be bragging about their latest arrest because they were high and didn’t know what they were doing. The clinics as they are being run now are not working very well and need to be overhauled big time.
good luck to father and son in your evdevors to help others. Be aware of the fraud that happens in this field.
I’m glad you advocate rebuilding the structure, and ultimately refining the purpose of current and future methadone clinics in the US, instead of just advocating an outright ban on them.
well stated!
Spot on. Just like the pain medications themselves, the clinic is not the problem, its the abuse and misuse of it. I agree with having tighter regulations and rules for methadone clinics, just as pain clinics must endure the scrutiny of the DEA and their rules, so should the methadone clinics. I think they should change from being methadone clinics, to being a special type of opiate addiction treatment centers, where regular opiate medications and suboxone are used in conjunction with highly monitored UA’s and mandatory therapy sessions. Methadone should not be used anymore in treating heroin addiction. Methadone is not the best choice for this type of treatment for opiate addicts. It can be dangerous and unstable compared to things like suboxone. Having this type of structure to an opiate addiction clinic would greatly benefit the actual patients. It would be a more well rounded treatment program that would treat each individual to their specific needs, instead of just handing out methadone and hoping it works. This service should be provided for free to the patient, of course (as should all health care, for that matter).
The last thing that should be done is to ostracize the addicts that want help, and crush any hopes they have for treating their addiction. Despite what the media and general public would like the world to believe, drug addicts are human beings, and they deserve to be treated like human beings.
so… if you work there, and you just stated your self you witness people dealing drugs ( against the law) aren’t you a mandated reporter??? if you see something in place thats not working and YOU do nothing to change it, how are you helping the problem?? why not take the statement you just made on here and give it to the CEO of Acadia? i’m sure if they started getting a paper trail that could A. get them sued, or B. make them face criminal action, they might JUST MIGHT start making a change to the active SOP
why is it always until someones personal life is interrupted, that a means to an end is a huge problem? What would any of us do to help our child given this circumstance. All we hear is how bad the drug problem is getting and how the young people are being wasted away. We have a clinic in my town. you wont hear folks saying look at that young man trying to better himself. no, what you hear is, look at that will ya.. damned druggies getting a free high and driving home all messed up! well, guess what? methadone is keeping them out of trouble, out of jail, and actually turning lives around. No system is perfect, i know that, but we have to start somewhere.
This is true, but it must be much more tightly regulated than it currently is. Much more.
Methadone is a scurge…Start by shutting them all down.
so his already painful scoliosis didnt stop him from being a sledhead and its our fault he got stuck on stupid and was going to fast to make the turn.
a sad story…. but wait.. the sadness continues.. because of Meth clinics good and young kids are dead.. meth is a deadly drug in the wrong hands… these clinics are poorly managed and the drug DOES GET ON THE STREET… and that’s where the rub is… this story is not about meth clinics.. it’s about our main stream medical community… so it missed the point badly.. no more meth clinics… take a look at the number of deaths in this country and you would have to be nuts to want one of these clinics in your town
Please give examples of the extensive and deadly effect of methadone clinics in the US. Please give citations for who exactly has died from methadone taken from a clinic. You cannot just make crazy accusations and claims that are so obviously unfounded. You must provide the evidence to show that you are not just making stuff up. More people die from heroin than methadone, by far. The methadone clinics are there to help people stop using heroin and get their daily lives back. If you want your crazy opinion to matter to anyone, I suggest you go to medical school, become a doctor, and then voice your opinion so people will actually take you seriously.
” take a look at the number of deaths in this country and you would have
to be nuts to want one of these clinics in your town”
This statement is a shining example of your ignorance. In 2009, nearly 800k people died from heart disease (being fat and inactive), nearly 400k died from cancer (over 80% lung cancer from tobacco), 36k people killed themselves, 36k people died in car accidents, 30k people died form liver disease, 25k died from kidney failure, almost 38k people died from ALL drugs (illicit and licit), and 17k people died by homicide. Zero people died from marijuana.
About 2.5 million people died in the US in 2009, most of them from heart disease and cancer. Yet you want to sound the alarm over what you think are deaths from methadone clinics. Nowhere in the CDC stats did “deaths from methadone clinics” show up. We have people dying left and right from tobacco, alcohol, fatty foods and inactivity….by the millions….and you think, potentially, a few thousand deaths from methadone aquired from methadone clinics is what the problem is in America? You are delusional.
Why not focus on the heart disease and cancer? Why not focus on obesity and tobacco smoke/use instead of getting all worked up over people trying to quit heroin with methadone? Is that too sensible and logical for you?
“trusted” + “addict” does not compute
Yes it does.
And why should anyone trust you? You have a machine gun fetish, and no one should trust you
The person who should be held to task in this story is the original doctor who was treating Mr. Emery’s son. Because of his incompetence a legitimate pain patient was cut off and left to fend for himself. The addiction programs of America are full of patients whose stories begin in a similar way. Thank God his son is now being competently treated by a pain management doctor who is educated in the needs of those living with constant, debilitating pain. The “addictions” created by incompetent medical treatment is the shame of American medicine that has yet to be adequately acknowedged or addressed.
And methadone treatment for opioid addiction is simply the “gold standard” of treatment as stated by our own National Institutes of Health. It’s a treatment with over 50 years of voluminous research substantiating its efficacy. That’s the long and short of it and anyone can confirm what I state here. Opposition to this life saving treatment is rooted in prejudice and stigma, along with greed among those pushing other ineffective modes of treatment for personal financial gain.
I salute you, Mr. Emery, for your courage and for stepping up to see that those in your community needing help get that which is most effective. For in medicine isn’t that the object? To get the most effective treatment to keep chronic conditions in remission? In the area of opioid addiction that’s what methadone treatment is–the most effective treatment to keep the underlying condition in remission.
Kind regards,
J.R. Neuberger
National Alliance for Medication Assisted Recovery
Did you go to the doctors
with the patient??? We do not know the circumstances around the doctor(s) and
what transpired at that office. It’s very possible that the doctor offered
another type of pain management all together that doesn’t require meds and/or
lower doses even before his patient showed signs building up tolerance levels. Sadly
sometimes people are too lazy to do anything for their own health than to pop a
pill or two – I see that with a lot of diabetics, I’m sure you have to. A
doctor can not force a patient to do anything, and gathering how he hurt his
back in the first place, I’d say that he may not have the best judgment in the
world, not that it means he’s a bad person. I hate when people do this, if he
wasn’t happy with his doctor, he could have gone to another and taken some responsibility.
HE got himself into the trouble that he’s in. I wish him luck in his recovery,
but first he needs to start pointing the finger at himself and not at others.
I do think that there are
‘some’ people out there who need methadone treatment, but that treatment should
be done at a hospital not at a separate clinic. Nor should it be court
appointed.
And how about some stats
of recovery for the methadone clinics since it seems you have access to them…
Wow Amanda! I don’t really see how it’s anyone’s business what options he was/wasn’t given by his dr. People seem to think that HIPPA doesn’t apply for some reason when it’s an “evil” methadone patient. Would you want your gynocology report discussed all over the BDN?? This is personal stuff, this applies to everybody attacking all the “morally flawed” addicts being bashed on here.
You are wrong in trying to place the blame on this patient. All we can do is deduce from the article and the patients statement about the first doctors treatment; but I deduced that the doctor made a mistake by refusing to increase his dose.
Also, pain management is not like primary care. You cannot just find another doctor if you don;t like the one you have. There are usually a limited number of pain treatment clinics in a given town or city, and often times they can only treat a certain number of patients, and you must be referred to them by another doctor. You cannot just call a pain doctor up and get an appointment. It does not work that way.
You have a strange view of medicine. You think people who “pop a pill or two” are not responsible people, and are not doing all they can for their health. That is very simplistic and naive. People must “pop a pill or two” in order to continue living in many cases. It is not like people who are using asthma medication are irresponsible, and “are too lazy to do anything for their own health.” They are actually taking that medicine in order to help their own health and well being, because they can die if they don’t take that medicine.
You really showed how poor your understanding of medicine is, and your judgement of certain people and patients is a profound example of poor character.
Finally, a person with a comment that is not full of prejudice.
I said the same thing; The person at fault here is the doctor who ignorantly refused to increase the dose of this pain patient. He caused his patient to seek out the medication he needed in the illicit market. The patient had no choice really; unless people expected him to just sit and suffer through the pain. I’m glad to hear you opinion, as it is not full of ignorance and hate.
One thing though; I wish methadone would stop being used for treating heroin addiction. Methadone is not the best opiod to use because it has an extremely long half life, which causes complications with many patients. The programs in the UK allow diamorphine to be used in addiction treatment, rather than methadone, and they get exellent results from their patients.
I looked up some options,which are probably out of the question,but there is a spinal pain reliever thing.But ,that would mean more surgery to install it.Wow,its a lose lose situation….
Look, most of the patients who are on these narcotic medications do not relish in having to take them. It is not a party everyday for these people. They are in pain, and the medicine does not cure it, it only allows them to bear it and live their lives in less pain. Most of the patients I have talked to say that they would much rather be drug free and pain free than to get unlimited narcotic drugs whenever they want to treat their pain. It is not about getting drugs or getting high, it is about stopping the pain and suffering. The people who abuse these drugs cause a great deal of harm and trouble to those who truly suffer from pain and need these medications. They are stigmatized and vilified by the public, mostly because of news articles like these. The media has only made things worse for the real pain patients by portraying all people who take narcotic pain medicine as addicts, junkies, and criminals.
Like you said, it is a lose lose situation for the real pain patients.
Why not put it in Warren down next to the state prison. Might serve as a reminder if they don’t keep it on the straight and narrow, that could be their next domicile.
What an incredible story of pain and tragedy. I feel for Mr. Emery. It highlights what most of America is naive to; prescription drugs are derailing the lives of many up and coming people in this country.
As Tom sad, this is the face of opioid addiction. It’s unfortunate that an accident and severe pain brought on this addiction. But many of our children are getting hooked on these high powered pills after using them recreationally.
Parents need to discuss the dangers of these drugs with their children. Myteensavers counselors have treated kids hooked on opiates. It’s a difficult addiction to break. Our counselors also recommend that parents use home drug tests. They can help start working before you ever open the box. Also, parents need to lock up or dispose of unused medications. They should be utilizing drop off boxes.
These clinics are helpful to opioid addicts, but the community’s wishes must be considered. Hopefully there can be a resolution to satisfy both sides in this disagreement.
So, basically, you are a business that profits from the addictions of others. You make more money when more people become addicted, it is as simple as that. If all the addicts in the world stopped using drugs, you would be out of business. So when people talk about these drug issues, it is pretty shameful that you swoop in to promote your business in an effort to make more profit. You claim to be upset about this and that, like how companies are making a high dose hydrocodone medication now (which is better because people were getting severely hurt with liver damage from the Tylenol that was forced into all hydrocodone medications) but it is not hard to see that you really enjoy seeing more potent drugs hit the market, because it means more business for you and your company.
Go away and stop turning all these articles into your own little ad campaign.
What an incredible story of pain and tragedy. I feel for Mr. Emery. It highlights what most of America is naive to; prescription drugs are derailing the lives of many up and coming people in this country.
As Tom sad, this is the face of opioid addiction. It’s unfortunate that an accident and severe pain brought on this addiction. But many of our children are getting hooked on these high powered pills after using them recreationally.
Parents need to discuss the dangers of these drugs with their children. Myteensavers counselors have treated kids hooked on opiates. It’s a difficult addiction to break. Our counselors also recommend that parents use home drug tests. They can help start working before you ever open the box. Also, parents need to lock up or dispose of unused medications. They should be utilizing drop off boxes.
These clinics are helpful to opioid addicts, but the community’s wishes must be considered. Hopefully there can be a resolution to satisfy both sides in this disagreement.
What an incredible story of pain and tragedy. I feel for Mr. Emery. It highlights what most of America is naive to; prescription drugs are derailing the lives of many up and coming people in this country.
As Tom sad, this is the face of opioid addiction. It’s unfortunate that an accident and severe pain brought on this addiction. But many of our children are getting hooked on these high powered pills after using them recreationally.
Parents need to discuss the dangers of these drugs with their children. Myteensavers counselors have treated kids hooked on opiates. It’s a difficult addiction to break. Our counselors also recommend that parents use home drug tests. They can help start working before you ever open the box. Also, parents need to lock up or dispose of unused medications. They should be utilizing drop off boxes.
These clinics are helpful to opioid addicts, but the community’s wishes must be considered. Hopefully there can be a resolution to satisfy both sides in this disagreement.
What an incredible story of pain and tragedy. I feel for Mr. Emery. It highlights what most of America is naive to; prescription drugs are derailing the lives of many up and coming people in this country.
As Tom sad, this is the face of opioid addiction. It’s unfortunate that an accident and severe pain brought on this addiction. But many of our children are getting hooked on these high powered pills after using them recreationally.
Parents need to discuss the dangers of these drugs with their children. Myteensavers counselors have treated kids hooked on opiates. It’s a difficult addiction to break. Our counselors also recommend that parents use home drug tests. They can help start working before you ever open the box. Also, parents need to lock up or dispose of unused medications. They should be utilizing drop off boxes.
These clinics are helpful to opioid addicts, but the community’s wishes must be considered. Hopefully there can be a resolution to satisfy both sides in this disagreement.
What an incredible story of pain and tragedy. I feel for Mr. Emery. It highlights what most of America is naive to; prescription drugs are derailing the lives of many up and coming people in this country.
As Tom sad, this is the face of opioid addiction. It’s unfortunate that an accident and severe pain brought on this addiction. But many of our children are getting hooked on these high powered pills after using them recreationally.
Parents need to discuss the dangers of these drugs with their children. Myteensavers counselors have treated kids hooked on opiates. It’s a difficult addiction to break. Our counselors also recommend that parents use home drug tests. They can help start working before you ever open the box. Also, parents need to lock up or dispose of unused medications. They should be utilizing drop off boxes.
These clinics are helpful to opioid addicts, but the community’s wishes must be considered. Hopefully there can be a resolution to satisfy both sides in this disagreement.
What an incredible story of pain and tragedy. I feel for Mr. Emery. It highlights what most of America is naive to; prescription drugs are derailing the lives of many up and coming people in this country.
As Tom sad, this is the face of opioid addiction. It’s unfortunate that
an accident and severe pain brought on this addiction. But many of
our children are getting hooked on these high powered pills after using
them recreationally.
Parents need to discuss the dangers of these drugs with their
children. Myteensavers counselors have treated kids hooked on
opiates. It’s a difficult addiction to break. Our counselors also
recommend that parents use home drug tests. They can help start
working before you ever open the box. Also, parents need to lock up or
dispose of unused medications. They should be utilizing drop off
boxes.
These clinics are helpful to opioid addicts, but the community’s wishes
must be considered. Hopefully there can be a resolution to satisfy
both sides in this disagreement.
You missed the point that this guys story could have been avoided, had his doctor taken his pain seriously and allowed him to increase his dose. It is not realistic to keep a pain patient at a low and constant dose, because opiate medications cause a tolerance in patients who must use them for prolonged periods of time. There is no way around it, and it is usually referred to as pseudo-addiction, because the patient did not seek out the drugs to become addicted, and instead got addicted as a result of being treated for chronic pain. Howard Hughes was a pseudo addict to codeine after his plane crash.
If the doctor did his job correctly by increasing the patients dose and closely monitoring the patient and his behavior, then this patient never would have gone to the black market to buy illicit pain medications. He said himself that he never felt “high” while taking these drugs, just “less pain.” The dose that he claimed to be at when he was at his worst is no where near the amount that many pain patients get. Some patients have been known to take more than 1200mg morphine equivalent per day, which would be around 400mg of oxycodone, just above the amount he said he was taking illicitly. This man was only looking to stop his pain, and not get high or wasted.
I agree that parents must be more involved with their children in order to help prevent them using opiates, or other drugs recreationaly. The misinformation is not helpful to kids; when you tell them that heroin is just as bad as marijuana, then they try marijuana and think it is harmless, which makes them want to try heroin. We need to be more honest with kids, and understand that it is unrealistic to think that you can do anything to prevent your child from trying drugs. It is best to just be a good parent, raise them well, and give them the best information possible so that they can make the best decision possible.
I just don’t get why our society allows a drug like methadone out there to treat addiction when it’s worse coming off this drug then the drugs they take. Methadone is a poison that you put in your body, and it litterally rots the teeth of people so why would you want your loved ones on a drug that they can never come off and a drug that causes long term harm? I’m sorry that your son is addicted but he is also addicted to methadone and cannot come off this drug so which is worse??
I believe you have mixed up methanphetamines with methadone. They are not at all the same, and methadone does not rot your teeth at all.
What you don’t understand is that many, or most of the heroin addicts cannot simply quit using the opiates as if its a food choice. Most of these addicts have greatly altered their brains in a way that will not allow them to ever live a complete opiate or opiod free life. Long term use of opiates, like heroin, is known to alter brain chemistry in an way that is not reversible. This means that if they quit the drugs all together, they will eventually relapse soon after quitting. The medial community has decided the best approach for the most severe cases of heroin and opiate addicts is to tapper them off of their drug of choice, and then replace the drug with something like suboxone or methadone. It is not about stopping all together. It is about managing an addiction in a way that will allow the addict to live a happy, productive, law abiding lifestyle. These type of treatment programs are really only for the severely addicted patients who have used in such high doses for such an extended period of time that they are physically unable to live a life without opiate or opiod treatment whatsoever. It is not for the people who were prescribed narcotics for medical reasons, only to become dependent and pseudo-addicted. Those people have most likely not altered their brain chemistry in a manner that would prevent them from living a life without any opiate or opiod treatment, and subsequently are able to stop using the narcotic medication altogether.
The reason you do not “get” why society allows the use of methadone to treat heroin addiction is because you have a very poor understanding of western medicine and pain management/treatment. If you knew anything about the subject, you wouldn’t be wondering why they give methadone to heroin addicts, and you also would not confuse methadone with methanphetamine.
I believe you have mixed up methanphetamines with methadone. They are not at all the same, and methadone does not rot your teeth at all.
What you don’t understand is that many, or most of the heroin addicts cannot simply quit using the opiates as if its a food choice. Most of these addicts have greatly altered their brains in a way that will not allow them to ever live a complete opiate or opiod free life. Long term use of opiates, like heroin, is known to alter brain chemistry in an way that is not reversible. This means that if they quit the drugs all together, they will eventually relapse soon after quitting. The medial community has decided the best approach for the most severe cases of heroin and opiate addicts is to tapper them off of their drug of choice, and then replace the drug with something like suboxone or methadone. It is not about stopping all together. It is about managing an addiction in a way that will allow the addict to live a happy, productive, law abiding lifestyle. These type of treatment programs are really only for the severely addicted patients who have used in such high doses for such an extended period of time that they are physically unable to live a life without opiate or opiod treatment whatsoever. It is not for the people who were prescribed narcotics for medical reasons, only to become dependent and pseudo-addicted. Those people have most likely not altered their brain chemistry in a manner that would prevent them from living a life without any opiate or opiod treatment, and subsequently are able to stop using the narcotic medication altogether.
The reason you do not “get” why society allows the use of methadone to treat heroin addiction is because you have a very poor understanding of western medicine and pain management/treatment. If you knew anything about the subject, you wouldn’t be wondering why they give methadone to heroin addicts, and you also would not confuse methadone with methanphetamine.
can’t sit, can’t stand, but can ride his harley…
Right, because if he isn’t in a wheelchair he is faking it? What an ignorant statement to make.
One wonders, why now. Warren is a small town, everyone knows everyone’s business -as in all small towns. Nothing he is now revealing would come as a surprise to them. Regardless- the people of Warren should be the deciding factor & I believe they have spoken & with good reason.
Mr Emery is a very brave man to speak out against the prejudice of those throwing stones from their glass houses.
Those folks have no idea what it’s really like, until it’s one of their own; and they still often don’t get it when it’s too late………..
The reporter should have done their homework. I’m pretty sure this guy is talking about abusing “Oxycontin” pills, not “Oxycodone” pills. It’s pretty apparent when the reporter states Robert was abusing about 300 mg of Oxycodone daily and sometimes he would have to “settle for Vicodin or Percocet.” Uh, Oxycodone is Vicodin, the generic form. Oxycodone and Oxycontin are two totally different drugs. It’s like the difference between children’s Aspirin and Percocet.
I really don’t understand why some people can’t just search online for things they don’t know.
First of all, oxycodone is oxycontin. Oxycontin is just the brand name of a certain continuous release drug; hence the CONTIN(uous).
Secondly, there are also oxycodone pills that are instant release which contain just the drug oxycodone. They are usually used for patients that have pain that overwhelms any pain relief they may be getting from their extended release, or continuous release pain medication. They can also be used for moderate to severe chronic pain, but most doctors would rather prescribe something like vicodin.
Which brings me to third; Oxycodone is not vicodin. Vicodin the brand name of the class three narcotic drug, hydrocodone, that is mixed with an over the counter drug such as Tylenol. Percocet is the brand name of another class three narcotic drug that is mixed with Tylenol, although the opiate in percocet is oxycodone instead of hydrocodone. But it is important to note that both hydrocodone and oxycodone are class two narcotic drugs, instead of class three, like vicodin and percocet. When these narcotic drugs are the only component of the medication being branded and marketed, then the drug remains class two. But when the class two drugs are mixed with an OTC like Tylenol, they become a class three narcotic.
All of that information took me about three seconds to find at an online search engine. Usually, I would not have made such a deal about correcting you, but you made such a big deal about making your point to the author, I felt obliged. You even said “The reporter should have done their homework.” Sadly, it is you who should have done YOUR homework. You also made a grammar mistake in that sentence. When you are referring to a person such as “the reporter,” it is the same as using the pronoun “he,” in which case you would not then say “their homework,” but instead you would say “his homework.”
Folks, the inmates are running the Asylum with our hard earned tax dime.
http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/21006417314389/9-arrested-in-dea-raid-including-attorney-s-office-employee/
9 arrested in DEA raid, including attorney’s office employee
Posted: 01/13/12 at 10:00 pm EST
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (WSVN) — DEA
agents have arrested nine people in a huge South Florida drug
trafficking ring, including a U.S. Attorney’s Office official who works
for the southern region.
Maybe it doesn’t help that the residents of Warren know the whole story behind the Turning Tide Clinic in Rockland which the state gave permits to a person who had already been charged with drug violation to run. I admire Mr. Emery for what he is trying to do and I think the residents of Warren may see things differently if they know that a reputable company would be running the clinic. I used to believe that using metadone was just trading one drug for another but after researching and having heard other stories it remains the best treatment out there for addiction at this time.
do neeed to say that the methadone should be administered at the clinic and not allowed to be taken home. I have hear the comment more than once that Maine is the MacDoald of the country for methadone drive thru and take out.
Once upon a time, opioids were the last ditch effort to control the pain of severe injury or dying. They were prescribed for a finite period of time.They were never intended to be a daily fix for every pain under the sun, and now it seems more and more people are conditioned to believe that they need a narcotic for every ache and pain instead of using therapy or non-narcotic medications.
Consider this statement:
“I built up a tolerance for them. My normal prescription wasn’t helping me,” Robert said.
When he went to his doctor, the doctor refused to increase the dosage. The pain became unbearable. When Robert sat, he hurt. When he stood, the pain was excruciating. It didn’t stop during any minute of the day or night. He couldn’t sleep.
“That’s when I started self-medicating and buying stuff on the street,” Robert saidThis man’s son obviously suffered with a lot of pain, and this is exactly how some people get miserably hooked to this junk.
It makes me wonder just how much ‘research’ big pharma is willing to do (or is doing) in the area of non-narcotic pain relief.
Once upon a time, opioids were the last ditch effort to control the pain of severe injury or dying. They were prescribed for a finite period of time.They were never intended to be a daily fix for every pain under the sun, and now it seems more and more people are conditioned to believe that they need a narcotic for every ache and pain instead of using therapy or non-narcotic medications.
Consider this statement:
“I built up a tolerance for them. My normal prescription wasn’t helping me,” Robert said.
When he went to his doctor, the doctor refused to increase the dosage. The pain became unbearable. When Robert sat, he hurt. When he stood, the pain was excruciating. It didn’t stop during any minute of the day or night. He couldn’t sleep.
“That’s when I started self-medicating and buying stuff on the street,” Robert said
This man’s son obviously suffered with a lot of pain, and this is exactly how some people get miserably hooked to this junk.
It makes me wonder just how much ‘research’ big pharma is willing to do (or is doing) in the area of non-narcotic pain relief.
It seems funny that this story portrays Mr. Emery as someone who just wants to help people. He almost comes across as an upfront and courageous individual. Unfortunately the people of Warren weren’t treated in an upfront manner. Mr. Emery tried to sell the citizens of Warren a bill of goods when he wanted to buy the “Old Brick School” to develop into an “office building”. When the truth was discovered the outcry was immediate and strong. Pretty soon the multinational corporation, the so-called CRC Healthcare, had their lawyers blustering and bullying the little town of Warren. Many of us in the area have been wondering what Mr. Emery promised CRC to get them to back him, both financially and legally.
Logic would dictate that Warren wouldn’t be the best location for this proposed clinic. There is limited law enforcement presence in Warren and only a small EMS team available. On the other hand if Mr. Emery were to put this wonderful clinic in the building that he has next to his residence in Rockport where there is a police department and ambulance coverage with 24-hour Paramedic coverage, plus only five miles to the Emergency Department at Pen Bay Hospital. Oh yeah, maybe CRC doesn’t want such services to be so readily available to respond if (when) something goes wrong. If Mr. Emery really wanted to help people and do good things for the community he wouldn’t be in bed with CRC and trying so hard to get the people of Warren to roll over and play dead. CRC must see a lot of potential in Mr. Emery and his idea of a great location.
After the Methadone Clinic in Rockland gets up and running again will Mr. Emery’s plan seem so great? Or will CRC go looking for another small town to bully?
I doubt that anyone really knows the truth behind this story or all of the controversy that Mr. Emery has created here in Mid-Coast Maine. In time the truth will be sorted out, but until then we will wait to see what gets dredged up.
Remember people there is only one mill in this state that runs all three shifts and never has any reduction in production, that is the Rumor Mill.
I’m sure glad I don’t live in Maine with ignorant and prejudice people like you. You are nothing but a crusader who wants so badly for society to work and play by your rules, and your rules only. You, and people like you, are not doctors, and you clearly show your complete ignorance to this aspect of western medicine. Perhaps someday you will get a horrible injury that causes you constant and intractable pain that brings you to actually contemplate suicide as the ultimate treatment. Perhaps then you might come to understand the plight of some of the people enduring intractable pain.
Not everyone who is prescribed narcotic medicines is a worthless junkie criminal, and not all of them abuse their prescription medications. You should also understand that some of the other people will never be able to stop using opiates to get intoxicated, and that it has been clinically proven that methadone treatment for heroin addiction does work for the most severe cases of addiction. But hey, actual scientific evidence never got in the way of a radical zealot who thinks the only opinion that matters in the world is their own.
You very clearly missed the point of that. It says that the Warren location is not appropriate for the clinic. They weren’t saying that everyone is a junkie criminal and all abuse medications. There isn’t the support system in Warren that cities like Rockland have. We have no police and yes, there were many, many incidents that happened at Turning Tide where law enforcement was involved.
This has all turned into a discussion about judging methadone. I am not doing that but suggesting that another town would better be able to protect the residents and the patients.
But I live in Maine so I must be one of those ignorant and prejudice people.