Redington-Fairview General Hospital has 25 beds.

Located in Skowhegan, a small Somerset County town of about 8,500 people, it runs a busy ER, owns some doctors’ offices and serves as a critical-access hospital for 30,000 people from Skowhegan to the Canadian border. The most seriously sick or injured patients must be sent to larger facilities such as Central Maine Medical Center in Lewiston.

CMMC has 250 beds.

Located in one of the largest cities in the state, CMMC serves as a major hospital for 400,000 people throughout six counties. Like Redington-Fairview, it runs a busy ER and owns some doctors’ offices. It also has a sleep center, a cancer center and a heart center. When someone is hurt in a major car accident, gravely ill or injured or having a heart attack, CMMC is one of the few Maine hospitals they’re whisked to by air-rescue service LifeFlight.

But in 2010, the CEO of little Redington-Fairview earned more than the head of CMMC, Laird Covey.

Redington-Fairview’s Richard Willett also earned more than the CEO of MaineGeneral Medical Center, in Augusta and Waterville, the third-largest hospital in the state. He earned more than the CEOs of Southern Maine Medical Center in Biddeford, Pen Bay Medical Center in Rockport and St. Joseph Hospital in Bangor, all hospitals with more than 100 beds. The heads of St. Mary’s Regional Medical Center in Lewiston and Mercy Hospital in Portland made more than Redington-Fairview’s CEO, but not by much.

Willett’s compensation package: nearly $550,000.

And that’s after a pay cut. The year before, he earned $693,000.

“I don’t care where you live, Lewiston or Skowhegan, that’s a lot of money,” said Joanne Woodard, a Skowhegan resident who believes her local nonprofit hospital is spending at the cost of taxpayers and patients.

For the past two years, the Sun Journal has examined executive pay, perks and certain expenditures made by the largest nonprofit hospitals in Maine. However, many of the state’s hospitals are small, rural and classified as critical-access, which earns them higher Medicare reimbursements — more taxpayer money — than other hospitals. Maine has nine such hospitals licensed for 25 acute-care beds only. This year, we focused on them.

The findings:

• Most small hospital CEOs earned $230,000 to $330,000.

• Some executives got special perks, such as car allowances.

• One tiny hospital spent $80,000 on lobbying, nearly twice as much as the large Eastern Maine Healthcare Systems, which is the parent of Eastern Maine Medical Center and six others.

• Four small hospitals spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising, conferences and travel.

• Nonprofit hospitals receive their special nonprofit status because they’re supposed to benefit the community, but spending for charity care and community benefit varied widely.

CEO compensation

Maine has 39 acute-care and specialty hospitals. All receive taxpayer money for giving care to poor and elderly patients. All but one — the New England Rehabilitation Hospital of Portland — are nonprofit. As nonprofits, Maine hospitals get tax breaks and are able to solicit tax-exempt donations. In return, the IRS requires that they pay their CEOs “reasonable compensation” — a vague guideline based on the salaries paid by similar nonprofits or for-profit companies. They must also file special federal tax forms detailing their revenues and expenditures and make those forms available to the public.

The Sun Journal analyzed the most recent tax forms for the state’s nine very small, critical-access hospitals, those licensed for 25 acute-care beds and no long-term care.

CEO compensation has been a hot-button issue in recent years, provoking a lot of talk among lawmakers and one bill aimed at capping executive salaries — that bill died in committee. Proponents of such legislation have said high executive compensation is a symptom of greater health-care spending problems and is one reason medical bills are so high. Opponents have said hospitals must pay their executives well to entice the best leaders, particularly in a rural state like Maine.

Although much of the discussion has been centered on the pay given to the CEOs of the state’s largest hospitals, at least one small hospital CEO’s compensation isn’t far behind them.

In fiscal year 2009-10, the most recent year tax forms are available, Redington-Fairview’s Willett earned almost $550,000, including nearly $225,000 in retirement or other deferred compensation. His compensation package also included nearly $304,000 in base salary and $20,500 in nontaxable benefits.

The CEOs of the other eight small hospitals earned, on average, $295,000 in total compensation. At the low end was Millinocket Regional Hospital, which paid CEO Marie Vienneau $233,500, including $3,000 as part of the same retirement plan all employees get. That’s less than half Willett’s overall compensation. Her retirement package was 1.3 percent of his.

For that pay she performs two jobs: CEO and chief nursing officer.

“I don’t know if you know a lot about Millinocket, but it has been through tough economic times over the past 10 years and that has certainly impacted compensation policies. I would say we do the best we can,” Vinneau said. “The unemployment rate here is, I still think, hovering around 15 percent. We’ve gone, I think, two years where none of our employees, including myself, have received compensation increases.”

Among the nine small critical access hospitals, the closest compensation package to Willett’s was $386,000 paid to Erik Steele at Blue Hill Memorial Hospital. However, Steele, chief medical officer of Eastern Maine Healthcare Systems, was serving as temporary CEO on behalf of EMHS, Blue Hill’s parent organization. He performed two jobs that year: interim CEO of Blue Hill and chief medical officer of EMHS.

In 2011, Blue Hill’s new, permanent CEO earned $225,000.

It’s unclear exactly why Redington-Fairview chose to pay its CEO twice as much as other small Maine hospitals. Redington-Fairview’s leaders, including the hospital spokeswoman and Willett, the CEO, refused to return repeated phone calls and messages left over several months. Only two of the hospital’s nine board members from 2010 agreed to talk about the hospital at all.

William Laney, board treasurer in 2009-10, said the board is responsible for setting Willett’s compensation and it considers his pay annually, using data compiled by an outside source to gauge how much the leader of Redington-Fairview should be paid. It is unclear how long Willett has been CEO, but Laney said he has been with the hospital for years.

“I think we’re looking to be in line with similar institutions with similar budgets. We recognize that it [the CEO] is a difficult job, I think an increasingly difficult job, because of the general health care climate, regulations both state and federal,” Laney said. “I think it is a difficult but a very important job.”

Sixty miles away, Waldo County General Hospital is the same size as Redington-Fairview, made virtually the same amount of money and it spent a similar amount in 2009-10. Its CEO earned $369,500, about $180,000 less than Willett. The year before, Waldo County’s CEO earned just over $357,000, almost half of Willett’s $693,000 compensation at the time.

Laney couldn’t remember how much Willett is paid and, when told how much it is, couldn’t explain why Willett’s compensation package was more than others.

“I don’t know without having my records in front of me whether that’s accurate or not,” he said. “But all I can say is that the decision is made annually, it’s based upon comparisons to similar CEOs in the hospital business with similar-sized budgets.”

Virginia Howard was a board member in 2009-10. She said the board had a philosophy when it came to CEO compensation, but she declined to say what that philosophy was.

“I don’t think I feel free to mention that. I don’t know what they’d be comfortable with me saying or not saying,” she said. “I thought it was a reasonable philosophy for the area.”

But Woodard, a 62-year-old Skowhegan resident and member of the town’s budget committee, disagrees. She has spent months combing through Redington-Fairview’s tax documents and talking with people about the hospital for her own interests. She believes the medical center is spending at the cost of higher taxes and larger patient bills, and the CEO’s large paycheck is an example of it.

“I don’t think anybody’s worth that money,” she said. “Come on, what do they do?”

Laney said that what Willett does is “an exceptional job in moving the hospital forward.”

“I think he’s done an excellent job. I believe the hospital provides good care and serves the community well. In large measure he’s responsible for a lot of that. You know, obviously along with the medical staff and the nursing staff,” Laney said.

Woodard, however, believes the care isn’t so excellent, citing the 2009 medical license revocation of a Redington-Fairview surgeon for incompetence, unprofessional conduct and sexual misconduct there in 2007. She said that although the hospital has grown — it added a building to consolidate doctors’ offices in recent years — she doesn’t feel it serves the community any better.

She points to the time in 2009 when she brought her husband, who was dying of cancer, to Redington-Fairview’s ER for help with his pain.

“They said, ‘We don’t do that here,’” she said.

Executive perks

Executive perks have been another hot button issue for big hospitals in recent years. Four small hospitals detailed some kind of executive perk in their tax forms. Some were worth a few hundred dollars; others were worth several thousand.

Mount Desert Island Hospital’s perk was the smallest: $399 to pay for its CEO’s membership to the local YMCA.

“It’s part of his contract,” said CFO Christina Maguire-Harding.

The hospital gave other employees up to $100 for fitness club memberships.

At Calais Regional Hospital, the CEO got a $7,260 car allowance.

“Take taxes out of that and it’s probably worth $4,000. That’s taxable income to me,” said CEO Mike Lally. “That’s the only benefit I get.”

Lally earned just under $260,000 in 2010, with $200,000 in base salary, the $7,260 car allowance, and just under $53,000 in health insurance and other nontaxable benefits.

Penobscot Valley Hospital also gave its CEO a $7,260 car allowance. The hospital’s CFO received a car allowance as well, for $3,600.

CFO Ann Marie Rush couldn’t say why Penobscot Valley decided to provide car allowances.

“It’s just part of the compensation package that was developed with the [hospital] board and Quorum,” Rush said.

Quorum Health Resources is a Tennessee-based company that sells consulting, management and education services to independent hospitals. Several of Maine’s smallest medical centers use Quorum to recruit executives and provide other services.

Although it gives its CEO and CFO car allowances, Rush said Penobscot Valley Hospital is mindful of its compensation level.

“It’s a conservative area here. We’re acutely aware of the community and how people would perceive that,” she said. “We try to make sure we have people who work here who want to be here, who are not here to become a millionaire overnight.”

Waldo County General Hospital paid for its CEO to bring a companion when he traveled on hospital business in fiscal year 2008-09. It’s uncertain whether that continued in 2009-10, though the perk wasn’t noted in that year’s tax forms. It’s also unclear how much the hospital spent on companion travel, where they went or why. The hospital’s CFO and board president did not return phone calls. CEO Mark Biscone declined to comment on Waldo County General Hospital’s tax forms.

“They state what they state,” he said.

Lobbying, advertising, travel and conferences

Although many Maine hospitals large and small acknowledge some kind of spending on lobbying — typically they belong to the Maine Hospital Association or another group, and a portion of their dues goes to lobbying — only one of the nine small hospitals wrote a big check.

Penobscot Valley Hospital spent nearly $80,000 on lobbying in 2010, far more than any of the other small hospitals analyzed and almost twice that of EMHS, one of the largest health-care systems in the state.

Penobscot Valley CEO David Shannon and CFO Rush said that was a one-time expense. The hospital paid a lobbyist nearly the full $80,000 in an attempt to get federal lawmakers to approve appropriations money that could have gone to Penobscot Valley. The hospital wanted to upgrade its CT scanner and get a new digital mammography machine. Had the lobbying been successful, the hospital could have gotten about $650,000.

It was not successful.

“That was the first time we tried to do something like that,” Shannon said, adding the hospital likely wouldn’t do that again.

Four other hospitals had greater-than-average spending on advertising, conferences and travel, expenditures often noted by experts because they don’t directly impact patient care. Bridgton Hospital, Mount Desert Island Hospital, Redington-Fairview and Sebasticook Valley Health each spent a total of $300,000 or more in those categories.

For advertising and promotion in 2009-10, the nine small hospitals spent an average of $86,000. Waldo County General Hospital was at the low end at $728. Bridgton Hospital was on the high end, with just over $205,000.

Matthew Cox, CFO of Central Maine Healthcare, Bridgton’s parent organization, said most of that money was spent on employment ads and to promote the medical center’s 22 doctors.

“Bridgton Hospital employs more doctors than probably any other critical access hospital,” he said. “So anytime there’s a new doctor, we do advertising for that new doctor to get them busy.”

Redington-Fairview spent the second-most on advertising: just over $190,000.

Spending for conferences and travel is more difficult to gauge. Although each is its own line item, some hospitals combine the two and list everything, or nearly everything, under travel.

That’s what Bridgton Hospital did. Although it listed $151,000 in travel expenses, that figure includes conferences, conventions and meetings.

“The biggest piece of that is training and continuing education for our employed physicians,” Cox said. Continuing education is required for doctors to keep their medical licences, though hospitals aren’t required by the state or any outside group to pay for that education.

For travel, the nine small hospitals spent an average of $78,000. Millinocket Regional Hospital spent the least at $20,000.

“We’re pretty tight up here,” said Vienneau, the CEO. “Our margins are thin. We have to keep our expenses down. Just the nature of our economy and our community [means] we don’t have a choice.”

Bridgton spent the most on travel, but that figure included conferences and other expenses. Sebasticook Valley Health — formerly Sebasticook Valley Hospital — spent the second-most on travel, about $126,000. It also spent about $171,000 on conferences, conventions and meetings.

Liisa Janelle, chief human relations officer, said Sebasticook Valley spends about $500 per person each year on education, including clinical training and an initiative to reduce costs and make the hospital more efficient.

“We’re in an industry where it’s changing all the time, and we have to stay on top of things,” she said.

Three hospitals listed nothing under conferences because they combined that expenditure with travel. The remaining six spent an average of $165,900 on conferences, conventions and meetings. Blue Hill spent the least, $75,700. Mount Desert Island Hospital spent the most, $294,400.

Mount Desert CFO Maguire-Harding said just over half of that was spent on clinical and professional training for nurses, doctors, emergency room workers and others who need continuing education in order to keep their licenses.

The remaining $141,000 was spent on group training, including courses offered to medical professionals throughout Hancock County. Those professionals pay to take that training, reimbursing the hospital for about 60 percent of that spending.

Community benefit

Nonprofit hospitals receive that special nonprofit status because they’re supposed to benefit the community. A couple of years ago, the IRS began asking hospitals to detail exactly how they do that — backed up with numbers.

All hospitals are now supposed to report what percentage of their total expenses benefits the community. In other words, the IRS wants to know how much hospital spending is helping the community and how much is helping the hospital.

Because the requirement is so new, some hospitals report their community benefit percentage differently. Of the nine small hospitals, for example, most factored in only the cost of charity care, unreimbursed Medicaid and general community benefits, such as contributions the hospital made to community groups or services it provided to improve health in the area. But at least one hospital added to “community benefit” the cost of bad debt, the amount of hospital bills left unpaid by patients.

Experts expect reporting to become more uniform as hospitals get used to filling out the new section. Until then, it’s one of the few ways to gauge how much a hospital’s spending benefits the community.

Among Maine’s small hospitals, the community benefit percentage varied wildly. At Blue Hill, 2.8 percent of expenses went to charity care and other community benefits. At Waldo County General Hospital, 10.3 percent did.

Among the nine, the average was 5.9 percent.

Nancy Glidden, CFO of Calais Regional, said her hospital’s accounting firm told her the industry standard is 9-11 percent. Calais reported 9 percent, one of the highest of Maine’s small hospitals. Its figure did not include bad debt.

Although the industry standard is 9-11 percent, officials at most of the small hospitals said they do not work toward a goal percentage. Some say they meet 9 percent easily. Others say they struggle with lower amounts, torn between aiding the community and balancing their budget.

“We don’t set a target that we try to achieve. We’re typically around 3 percent, anywhere between 3 to 5 percent, for charity care,” said Rush, CFO of Penobscot Valley Hospital, which showed about 6.2 percent of its spending benefited the community in 2010. “It would be probably difficult to absorb much more than that when you bring all of the rest of the operations into that mix. We generally don’t have a large bottom line.”

Over the next couple of years, hospitals will be required to provide even more detail about how they benefit the community. It’s accountability Woodard, for one, welcomes.

“If you’re going to do something for the community, do it where the community as a whole, the taxpayers, benefit from it,” she said.

Taxes

Like all nonprofit organizations, Maine’s nonprofit hospitals don’t have to pay property taxes.

In Skowhegan, that’s becoming something of an issue.

Redington-Fairview General Hospital is a small, critical-access hospital licensed for 25 acute-care beds. In recent years, the medical center has taken over independent doctors’ offices and built a 60,000-plus-square-foot addition to house them. It has bought three or four houses and razed them, turning the properties into a hospital-owned parking lot. It has talked about buying more.

The problem: Every property the nonprofit hospital buys is taken off the local tax rolls.

And in Skowhegan, sewer costs are included in property taxes, so while the hospital uses almost 30 percent of the town’s sewer services, according to the town, it doesn’t pay anything toward those costs.

“For the hospital it’s twofold, because they’re tax exempt and they use a lot of our sewer,” Town Manager John Doucette said. “And we can’t do anything about it.”

Redington-Fairview isn’t alone in its property-tax-free status, and Skowhegan isn’t the only town caught between loving its nonprofits and hating the loss of tax money.

In 2005, Lewiston adopted a stormwater fee — dubbed a “rain tax” by some — to get the city’s nonprofits, including its two hospitals, to pay some share of the costs of city services. The city said it established the fee, which is based on the amount of water runoff generated by a property, because residential property owners were paying for more than half the cost of dealing with runoff, while tax-exempt properties paid nothing.

During the last legislative session, Rep. Michael Celli, R-Brewer, submitted a bill that would have allowed towns to tax nonprofits for the services they used. The bill died in committee. Celli believes that’s because his bill didn’t clearly exclude schools. Although Celli does not plan to run for re-election, he said several colleagues have agreed to sponsor a new version of the bill.

“You look at some of these, especially these major hospitals, that obviously claim to be a nonprofit, but you look at their building and what they keep on adding to and you see what they pay their CEOs, and their standards as nonprofits are kind of questionable at times,” Celli said. “The services that they’re using are being paid for by the ordinary taxpaying citizen living in their homes.”

Although Redington-Fairview and Skowhegan aren’t unique, the town’s reliance on the property tax to pay the town’s sewer bill does make their situation more uncommon. Town Manager Doucette said the town has talked about separating property taxes and sewer fees, but there weren’t enough votes to pass an ordinance.

Doucette makes clear that he likes Redington-Fairview. It’s one of the biggest employers in town, it provides important services and the hospital is “a good neighbor.” But he laments the loss of tax money and the expenses the town incurs, such as supplying the hospital with police protection every time there’s an irate patient.

“I’m not saying they shouldn’t be tax exempt. I just don’t think they should be 100-percent tax exempt,” Doucette said. “And I think that’s a big thing nowadays. Forty years ago? Yeah, OK. Now, they’re businesses. In fact, I talked to someone up there one time and they said, ‘Our business plan…’ and I’m going, ‘Wait a minute. You’re not a business.’”

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  1. There are too many people getting rich off of healthcare in this country – hospital admins, docs, drug dealers for pharm companies (who by the way are unlicensed and totally unregulated) – its no wonder that we have a healthcare crisis.

    1. Doctors are not making the money the way they used to.  Docs are being dictated by the insurance companies how much they are being paid.  A know a few docs that are dipping into there own private funds to keep the practice going.  The only ones making money are , drug companies , CEO”S  and insurance companies. 

      1.  That doesn’t hold water with me.  Physicians are among the most highly paid professionals in every community.   They are certainly not struggling to make ends meet or going without.

         http://www.profilesdatabase.com/resources/2011-2012-physician-salary-survey

        1. Physician practices are having a difficult time making ends meet. In Eastern and Northern Maine, 60% of the healthcare consumers have some form of a government insurance. The state of Maine is one of those government insurance provider and they pay pennies on the dollars when and if they pay.  If the physicians are dipping into what they normally would pay themselves to keep their practices afloat, what is the limit before they close shop and move out of state?  No matter what you think, a physician practice is still a business, it’s income must exceed it’s expenses to be successful. 

          1.  Did you notice the reduction in avg for Primary Care docs – Family, Internal Med.  in that chart?  

            I wonder what their final compensation is really.   I expect that for
            the few remaining sole practitioner PCP docs are making that much. It
            seems its the specialist in large groups pull in the big bucks.

          2. A friend once worked at a major credit card company in the collections department & alot of her calls were to physicians & other high income proffessionals around the country who were in arrears with credit card debt with balances  in the $100s of  thousands.  They make god money but usually spend years paying of medical school loans.

          3.  Many Many years ago when I started consulting, I was advised that doctors and lawyers were the worse folks to collect.  Some said to only work if paid up front / retainer. 

             For a couple other clients, they always wanted to negotiate.  ie 50% – 60% now or wait for piecemeal. LOL   I never learned! I only charged for onsite time when off site time was typically more hours ! 

          4. Not to mention their costs for malpractice insurance and the
            repayment of student loans. Anyone who thinks that they are over compensated, walk a day (usually 15 to 18 hours) in their shoes. Administrators on the other hand are probably in some cases way over paid.

        2. I have no problem with people making a living.If they paid their way to attend colleges,more power to them.

          1. Agreed.  And yet there has to be a limit to the greed.  Free market pricing for essential services, in this case healthcare, is too open to abuse.  There needs to be regulation, or better yet, universal healthcare that is not profit based.

          2. response was meant for openmined Mainer. Agreed. If the nay sayers on here had to work the hours that the average hospitalist put in during an average week they would definately be crying for more income. That is if they didn’t lose their minds from the work pace and lack of sleep while on .

          3. Agree, Watchdogme……the ceo’s make too much money.  No one needs that much to live quite comfortably  in Maine.

          4. Who are you to tell anyone how much money they need to live on, it is nobody business what a private CEO makes, as far as INS, there is not enough competition, open INS up so we can buy from any company in any state, if you want to complain about someone’s pay lets start with those that get paid by our tax dollars in D.C., who vote for their own raises, their own benefits ect… their pay should be a Nation wide vote.  All in favor of giving all the politician a 50% pay increase

          5. True. Docs, Phys, CEO’s should be the highest paid people right behind us hard working risk takers. Owning a successful business, like I have for years, can be a much greater reward. I blow these nmbers away on a personal income comparison.

          6. I’m a taxpayer who’s subsidizing these inflated salaries, that’s who I am to care about what they make. 

            I’m someone whose insurance costs way more than it should, due to inflated salaries of CEO’s and some physicians who make more than those CEO’s, all inflating health care costs in this country.

            We pay far more (look it up) than other so-called developed nations, and we get not as good care. 

            We’re 37th in the world in quality of health care.  We can’t afford these gluttonous characters who do not care that most bankruptcies are because of extreme health care costs they have caused with their excessive charges and salaries.

            Who are you to question the fact that I care about gluttonous creatures taking advantage of other people’s ills? 

             It’s disgusting that they can take all that money from regular people without a thought, as if they were somehow superior beings.  They are not.   Not at all.

          7. Telling someone to leave America is a standard, ignorant response if a person disagrees with you.  At least argue the issue rather than just being silly. 

            Millions of Americans have already lost their homes due to bankruptcy over high medical bills.  This issue of how much health care costs affects us all.  

            If executives are dependent on our tax monies, as Maine’s so-called non-profit hospitals and the University of Maine system are, then their compensation should be modest as befits their status as non-profits. 

            Or they can declare themselves for-profit and charge as much as they want for services, giving up taxpayers’ subsidies,  and take as much money as their for-profit outfit can stand.  

            But this phony “non-profit” status when they’re skimming high salaries off the top and keeping the cost of health care too high  is just not honest or ethical. 

          8. You may have a terminal case of “salary envy” cleanearth. Your making assumptions about people you have never met.

          9. Yes, buying insurance from any place in the country sounds nice…. for the insurance companies. Just one for instance. Let’s say you have a dispute with the insurance company because they won’t pay to have your thingy x-rayed. You claim your thingy is covered under the policy where it says “Thingy Repair”. Now, how do you fight the insurance comapny. You can’t sue in Maine if the policy is only sold in Nebraska, you have to go to Nebraska to sue. If you are rich, no problem. If you aren’t rich, you’ve been had….. again.

          10. The only know cure for “salary envy” is to go out and find a job that pays you what you think you are worth.

          11. I don’t need much money to live a good life.  How much food can one eat, how many bedrooms can one sleep in, how many vehicles does one need? 

            For some, it’s never enough.  For others of us, a modest lifestyle is comfortable and quite enough.

            High salaries for so-called non-profits being subsidized by taxpayers is simply wrong.  That is raising the cost of health care, which is a major cause of families’ bankruptcy and then losing their homes. 

          12. Many do enjoy the finer things in life. You don’t need that good for you. Many don’t “need” luxuries either they just like that lifestyle, good for them. These CEO’s are being paid market wages. It doesn’t matter if it is for or non profit. It is still an open market hiring process. Usually it is done by a board of directors and if that CEO doesn’t live up to expectations, they will be released.

          13. And then they claim they can’t afford to pay their (REAL) workers a liveable wage , or give them raises (that’s what we were told for the second year in a row!) !! I bet they get their raises , don’t they??!

          14. well said, regulations. Healthcare is a prime example of corporate welfare. All the tax breaks and etc is NO different than anyone thathas to  collect welfare money to live.

        3. I think what they are trying to say is that the private doctors office that is running off of the doctor and what they themselves put into it, is not on the same level as these hospitals that are in this article.  The amount of money those CEO’s are being paid for being a “non-profit” is a lot of money, and it certainly makes you wonder why they get so much and then the community is still paying so much for care.

          1. Perhaps the problem is with non-profit status not  CEO pay.  Still, health care is a “have to have” not a “nice to have” and free market forces, greed vs ability to pay, shouldn’t decide who lives and who dies.  Not today, 2012, in America.

          2. No, Good Will is not a non-profit.  It’s a private-for-profit outfit. 

            But even if it were a non-profit, no one has to shop there, as opposed to when one gets sick enough, one has to go to a hospital.  It’s one of our necessities.

            Good Will has  a good thing going, getting people to donate materials for free, when selling them for whatever they can get.

            It’s a great business model.   Many Mainers (including myself) avail ourselves of thrift shops–not Good Will, we have our own home-grown in Washington County– whenever we need more stuff. 

          3. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwill_Industries

            Goodwill Industries International is a not-for-profit organization that provides job training, employment placement services and other community-based programs for people who have a disability, lack education or job experience, or face employment challenges. Goodwill is funded by a massive network of retail thrift stores which operate as nonprofits as well.

            ====

            In 2005, Goodwill Industries of the Columbia Willamette (GICW), Goodwill’s Portland, Oregon branch, came under scrutiny due to executive compensation that the Oregon attorney general’s office concluded was “unreasonable.” President Michael Miller received

                 $838,508 in pay 

             and benefits for fiscal year 2004, which was reportedly out of line in comparison to other charity executives and placed him in the top one percent of American wage earners. After being confronted with the state’s findings, Miller agreed to a 24% reduction in pay, and GICW formed a new committee and policy for handling matters of employee compensation.

          4. Facts are nice are’t they. Usually as soon as you turn to “FACTS” the liberals and socialists try to blame your religion, guns, or preferred TV station. the irony is magnificent.

          5. When you’re right, you’re right.  I was under the impression – someone I respect told me – that Goodwill Ind. was a private for profit, but I looked it up myself and it is a private, non-profit outfit.

            The trouble with so-called non-profits is that they can spend as much as they want on “expenses,” including nearly a million dollars for the CEO, and other expenses, and still keep all their money so long as they use it for the purpose they have stated (running their stores). 

            So they could pay their CEO $2 million a year and still be called a “non-profit.”

            It’s a question of what’s right and just, since we’re talking about health care.  It’s not right to over-charge people as they do and then take that money as extreme over-compensation.

            If people want to get rich, there’s always Wall Street speculation that food prices will go up, or that oil prices will go up.   Lots of money to be made there. 

            But excessive monies should not be made off the backs of sick people.  It’s just not right.

        4. Actually most doctors don’t make all that much money for the amount of education and the job that they do.  Pharmacists make more than many doctors do, especially if that doctor is in private practice….if you check the salaries of an average health care system like Eastern Maine Healthcare, upper level management makes more than some of the doctors do, just to push papers!

        5. What percentage of the population has as much as half a million dollars and 12 years invested in their educations?

          1. They have spent al that so they can give it to the poor. That is what our freeloading friends camping in the park tell us.

      2. The series last year exposed their salaries. Some are making close to or over a million dollars a year; many are making a half million or more.
        In MAINE, of all places.

          1. Florida+Doctors+Pain clinics+Painkillers=Cash and 7, yes SEVEN, figure salaries. Did I say 7?

            200K is chump change for docs with morals.

          2.  That’s not even minimum  wage for Major League Baseball, in 2011 it was 400k, and those guys don’t have 8 to 10 years of college/medical training. Those salaries are completely fan and sponsorship paid. What is the difference? It depends on what you want. If I want Derek Jeter its going to cost me millions, if I will accept less than the best, it will cost me less. Same with CEO’s, you get what you pay for. Doc’s should get paid more than a laborer, if only because they are carrying 150k in debt from medical school before they even start working. Specialists even more so. Not too many people go into their jobs to be poor, they goto college and get jobs to not be poor. Love of what you do is great as long as it pays the bills.

        1. I guarantee you that Family Practice doctors make no where near that amount of money and the majority of physicians in Maine are FP docs.

          If you want to make the “big bucks”, the more detailed your specialty the higher your potential income. For example: orthopedics surgeons make higher salaries. Neuro surgeons make even higher salaries. Anesthesiologists make even higher salaries. I will leave you to ponder why that might be.

          1. FP phsycians are the ones that have really taken the bit hit. Specialists are the ones with the big egos…they are specialists and they think they are special!  I have sat in a specialist waiting room and have overheard conversations that would make me not want to go back. If they are talking about one patient a certain way, what the heck are they saying about me when I leave? Are they all this way?

          2. Well specialists are special.

            Neuro Surgeons have egos. That’s a fact. They think they are smarter then the average Joe. That’s a fact. Not sure I would want someone performing surgery on my brain if they didn’t think they were the best of the best.

            Anesthesiologists also have egos and that’s a fact too. When they put you under you are as close to death as you can possibly be without being dead.

            The point is, specialists are special because they deal in specialties that not everyone wants to do. Their pay reflects that fact.

        1. Yes lets bring back the bartering system. 1 chicken for a yearly check up. 6 chickens and 2 pigs for an gallbladder removal.

          1. Why do you have to have your gallbladder removed?  Unless it’s diseased sounds like you should clean up your diet.  Bartering is actually coming back in fashion.

          2.  What can I get for a goat and a stray cat?
            Well it’s a very friendly cat but the goat, not so much.

          3. You really need to get yourself updated by about 2000 years.  Bartering isn’t just with livestock, it’s with all goods and services.

      3. No they aren’t making the money they use to, but they are still making a decent living. They have a certain lifestyle to maintain and that is why they need to make a certain amount of money.  Most doctors feel as though living a middleclass lifestyle would be beneath them…and they have an ego to boot.  Why should they be treated any differently than a schoolteacher, firefighter, etc.?
        Also, most of the doctors I know are only in it for the money and truly caring about vs. “for” the patient doesn’t exist anymore.

        1. I feel sorry for you to be this bitter about doctors.. Most doctors don’t go into medicine for the money.  They go into this cause they care about people

          1. Oronowoman, I have a couple of friends that physicians and they are caring, but they are family practice.  The specialist I guess is what I am referring to.  And the CEO’s of hospitals are ridiculously overpaid.   Now that I am extremely bitter over.

        2. Wow, that is too bad that you have had that experience, all of the doctors that I have had and have for my children have been fabulous, and they do care, or I would change to someone who I felt did care about my healthcare.  Actually the only problem I have had with health care is the office staff or billing issues that the doctors are not even aware of, and when you make them aware, they are horrified and do something about it.  I have left great doctors because of their horrible office staff.

      1.  Yes lets bring back the bartering system. 1 chicken for a yearly check up. 6 chickens and 2 pigs for an gallbladder removal.

        1. A few years ago, I read about a few PCP md’s who who didn’t take insurance. medicare etc.. Got rid of office staff, reduced OV to $20-50 or something like that, started to use e-mail to help more patients without costly face to face time..   They knew what was going to happen with medicare / obamacare

          1. Actually the system you are referring to was set up because the doctors were fed up with insurance companies. They still have to follow all the Fed. guidelines. Nice try, linking those docs with Obamacare, but, like many other things from the opponents, completely false.

            Also, the drs who do this usually cannot admit patients to a hospital. So if something arises that requires a hospital stay, you would need to find another dr. to admit you. The drs. who see patients with a $25 fee also rarely can take time off, so it isn’t a permanent solution to the coming crunch of fewer than needed family practitioners.

          2. I wasn’t referring to any system but providing information that I read about 4-5 years ago.  I would assume that as with most things that there’s changes and adjustments over time.

            I believe that insurance companies were only a small part of the issue. It was primarily medicare and medicaid, with medicaid being the worse culprit.

            If Obama plan to take $500 Billion out of medicare for additional funding for medicaid comes to fruition, then there will be more crisis. 

          3. I read the same thing in the fall of 2010. It was about a couple of practitioners (in Cal. I think) who were disgusted with medical insurance companies. There is no need to do all what you write if medicare/medicaid is the problem. All you have to do is announce that you do not accept medicare/medicaid patients. Hospitals have a hard time doing that, but individual practitioners not so much. So the dr. in the story I read, and the one interviewed in the program called “The Story” was mostly interested in shedding insurance bs.

            I have had similar problems. When I needed one drug for a problem, the insurance denied it. We went back to the dr. and found a definition (and associated medical code number) that then allowed me to have the cure. Insurance companies often decide what level of care you get, not your family doctor. The government is not the source of any more problems than the insurance companies are.

          4. yUP – YOU’RE RIGHT ! (not really really yelling )   I’ve been laid  up now for 3 weeks because a new pcp wouldn’t proscribe the proper medicine because it was too expensive. 

            I’m on medicare.   He referred me to a specialist who referred me to a new doc.   Who knows how much longer and costly.

    2. “There are too many people getting rich off of healthcare in this country”

      Yes indeed, ever since the intrdoction of medicare under Johnson in ’65 and the subsequent rampant expansion of the ‘private’ medical insurance industry, the amount of people getting rich off the industry has become a problem.  The very same issues can be seen in higher education since the more active involvement of government backed student loans.

      Once the government begins assuming risk in these industries and providing “guarantees”, the moral hazard begins and it is not too long before harmful distortions in both wages and prices take a firm, resilient hold in the market.

    3. pharm companies(who by the way are unlicensed and totally unregulated). You don’t have a clue what you’re spouting off!  Ever try to get a license to import or sell prescription drugs in this country?  Didn’t think so. If you had you wouldn’t make those stupid statements. Plus you’ve got 44 people that like your comment. The blind leading the blind comes to mind!  You’d be better off sticking to your Penguin lines every day . I’m sure you’d have the same 44 followers.

  2. This is old news , it’s all part of the Insurance Game. Kids are dying of cancer each day cause of insurance companies denying claims.  Then you have CEO’s living off greed.  Something is seriously wrong with this picture. 

      1. When parents are paying 1 thousand a month for insurance  and when Anthem has a net of 3 billion dollars. .   They should be allowed to have any drug the doctor perscribes. 

        1. I understand what you are saying, that the insurance companies should not deny claims for essential services. However I was talking about another variable in the equation of healthcare expenses, pharmaceuticals, another free market greed vs need issue. I’m all for making a profit but there needs to be a limit because otherwise the greed factor takes over.

    1.  As your previous link indicated – it’s lack of timely medicare reimbursement that’s causing sole practitioners to go bankrupt.   

        1. Maybe you missed the headlines over the past 6 months to a year that Maine’s hospitals are owned MILLIONS by MaineCare and MediCare.

  3. It is  my experience that hospitals that are owned privately–non-profits included–are managed by folks who are more interested in self-aggrandizement and money than treating patients and employees decently.  They talk a good game and have PR promotions but just like the wall street and finance big wigs they see themselves and others at the top as “deserving” lots and lots of money.  Florida’s governor was the CEO of a huge hospital chain who found themselves investigated for all kinds of shenanigans and whose chief investigator stated that he regrets not criminally indicting the CEO when he had the chance.  My experiences with Penobscot Valley Hospital as an EMS student and volunteer are of callousness, mistreatment, and a tendency of supervisors to blame others for their mistakes.  Although the rank and file staff are decent people, I would rather die than allow any of my money go to that organization for any treatment..

    1.  You kidding. Democrats don’t run hospital, check the registrations, 100% Republicans at every hospital. You were kidding and just forgot to take your mediction – right:)

      1. Give it up, you cannot reason with this right wing extremist.  Noparkforme will lie and distort anything to push their GOP agenda (and I am being polite here).

      2. fourCatssoon can you prove your claim that “Democrats don’t run hospital, check the registrations, 100% Republicans at every hospital”? Especially in light of the fact that no government offices were open over the weekend.

  4. it is just unbelievable how much these hospitals get away with. these are not offices they are building, some are castles. every day when i watch the local news, the local hospitals in this area, which are 15 miles apart, have commercials advertising that they are the better hospital to have a baby at or the ad tells you that so and so had a baby named so and so. who cares. my god, there are 60,000 people in aroostook county spread from houlton to the allagash and you have 4 hospitals to choose from. are these people in caribou really going to shop in houlton to consider having a baby 75 miles from there house or in ft kent 50 miles from their house??
    they run these ads during news time which is prime time to buy advertising averaging 200 per 30 second spot and they each ( tamc in presque isle and cary in caribou) each run a least a couple ads about who had  baby or who has a better doctor or had better survey results.   it is just the biggest waste of money which ends up getting passed on to the health insurance companies which gets passed on to the policy holders. these non profits have no sense of being conservative what so ever. they all should be run like for profits and then see how long they would last.
     a few years ago they had what the larger hospital ceo’s wages were and dave peterson’s was outrageous for what he did. he had assistants upon assistants to do his work and they were paying him 100’s of thousands of dollars per year. they should have the board pay them the themselves if they want to pay them that while they fight with the nurses over a few bucks an hour. shame on the board for allowing this to happen.  board members should be business people that have a clue on how to run a business and run the hospital like a business.

    there i feel a little better but it will not reduce my 1600 per month blue cross premuims .

    1. wow $1600 a month premiums !! only in my dreams, as we only make a $2000/ month between the two of us :-/  and yours go to pay this person $693,000 a year…
      no wonder there’s a crisis in health care in this country :-/  Health insurance for us and many others is an unattainable dream with crooks in the mix of it all like this :-0
       

    2. Advertising rates in the County are dirt cheap so don’t flip out. Plus, the County is the largest one east of the Mississippi. I’m going to suggest you get a bit more realistic as far as how many hospitals there needs to be.
      I do agree with you that TAMC’s chief was and is overpaid, and TAMC builds Taj Mahals every year or two.

      1. Disqus generic email templatemaybe they are dirt cheap but every penny counts. but why does any hospital have to run ads on tv telling everyone that someone had a baby and it’s name? and why do they have to tell us it is their hospital that is the best hospital to go to? should we expect anything less? they didn’t do these things years ago? oh ya, I forgot that is when it was 200 dollars a day to stay over night, not 2000. one should expect nothing but quality care from the health care institution you are going to. if you are going to advertise other than for help and run it like a business then start paying taxes like a business. they are one of the main reasons presque isle decided to go to pay as you throw rubbish removal because the tax payers were subsidizing the landfills while the non profits paid pick up fees only so now the non profits pay like any one else. look at how much property the hospitals own and pay no taxes. they are buying up all the doctors offices and practices so they now do not pay property tax which gets passed on to the rest of us taxpayers. only in america

  5. When you mix profit and health care you get CEOs making outrageous salaries. All hospitals should be non profit with  a volunteer board that runs them.

  6. Among the nine small critical access hospitals, the closest
    compensation package to Willett’s was $386,000 paid to Erik Steele at
    Blue Hill Memorial Hospital. However, Steele, chief medical officer of
    Eastern Maine Healthcare Systems, was serving as temporary CEO on behalf
    of EMHS, Blue Hill’s parent organization. He performed two jobs that
    year: interim CEO of Blue Hill and chief medical
    officer of EMHS. In 2011, Blue Hill’s new, permanent CEO earned $225,000. THE STORY DOESN’T MAKE CLEAR IF DR. STEELE STILL EARNED HIS HUGE EXISTING SALARY AS CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF EMHS. HIS OFTEN SENTIMENTAL COLUMNS IN THE BANGOR DAILY NEWS NEVER MENTION HIS COMPENSATION WHEN HE’S BRAGGING ABOUT HIS WONDERFUL LIFE AND HIS GREAT FAMILY. NOR DOES HE NEVER SAY A WORD ABOUT THE LESS WONDERFUL PAY AND WORKING CONDITONS FOR HIS HOSPITAL’S NURSES. I WONDER WHY

    1. when the EMMC nurses had to go on strike a year or so ago, to provide better care for their patients…where were the CEOs??? They werent asking for more money, they wanted more HELP>

  7. That sure does seem like a lot of money to be paying a CEO of a small hospital in Maine.  However to keep things in perspective Paul LePage was reportedly making over 600K as CEO of the Marden’s Junk stores.  Perhaps all CEO’s are overpaid but if I’m going to pay anyone the big bucks it’s going to be to see to it that my health needs are properly met.  Where as I don’t need ANY assistance in buying junk from a junk dealer.

    1. this kind of health care compensation is so top-heavy; high costs (salaries for CEOs) do not equate with high quality of care; what are the NURSES getting paid? They are doing the lion’s share of the work.

      1. No argument with you there. My point is that ALL CEO’s in all public and private sectors are overpaid. Such inequalities are exactly what the protesters were just camping out over last summer. Please do keep your current thinking in mind when you go to vote next November. Consider which party is backing the CEO’s of the world and which are backing those of us who are actually doing the labor.

      2. The nurses? What about the nurses aides, the transport folks, the lab people, the x-ray techs…Didn’t Hilary Clinton say it takes a village to raise a child? Well it takes more than nurses to care for and treat patients.

    2. Every penny LePage earned was procured through private customers buying things because they chose HIS store.   You are suffering from LePage Derangement Syndrome.
      Proper care can help you; good luck.

      1. LePAGE DERANGEMENT SYNDROME: Malady most appropriately attributed to conservatives who support, believe, and repeat often any sad or hateful thing they hear out of the mouth of Paul LePage.  CURE: Opening eyes, ears, and mind (i.e. Waking Up!).   Your hostility toward those who make comment here is consistent with Paul’s hostility toward all of us who are not CEO’s. You’re both like two peas in a pod. 

    3. if this is true, why would he give up that kind of salary to be governor? would it be there are more benefits in the future for him? he certainly isnt doing this for the good of the state!

      1. Rachel it’s not “depressing” at all. Slavery and indentured servitude no longer exists in this country. People are free to look for a new job if they are unhappy with the money they make in their current job.

        What is “depressing” are the number of people that would rather complain about their lot in life then do something to change it.

    1.  Read the right wing posts. All teachers earn $250,000.00 a year while working about 20 6 hour days. The rest of their time is spent supporting Unions that let them retire after ten years at double their yearly salary. They all get bonuses for abusing children while teaching socialism.
      OR you could find out that Maine teachers get the 37th lowest salary in the country while working  sixty hours a week, taking courses every year to keep up their certifications.

      1. Teachers are paid with public $$, and I know several teachers, and you could not pay me enough to do that job, the CEO of Exxon/Mobil made over 400 mil in a retirement package, but that is a private company with a board that agreed on his pay, why is it anyone’s business what a private company pays its employers.

        1. Because Exxon/Mobil is paid with public money. They get free or almost no cost public land to drill on. They get billions is from the tax payer.
          They get tax breaks for being rich. They pay half or less than the taxes you pay so that they can make more. We then support them exporting our oil. Oil is the 2nd largest export in the USA and we pay them to ship it out.
          Using your own logic we have the right to set what they get paid. Now go back and argue with yourself.

    2. I am not a teacher, but teachers do not make that much…they have been made the scapegoats by people who want to put the blame somewhere. 

    3. Why does it matter what “his children’s TEACHERS are making this year”?

      A teacher makes what a teacher makes. I make what I make. If a teacher doesn’t like what they make, they can FIND A NEW JOB. If I don’t like what I make, I can FIND A NEW JOB.

      No one is a slave or indentured servant. If you don’t like what you earn, FIND A NEW JOB. Stop with the “salary envy” and be thankful for what you have. If you want or need to earn more, YOU CAN.

  8.  If you’re making more than $200,000 a year to run a 25 Bed Hospital with 100-150 employees you are moraly Bankrupt to start with. Then there are other issues.

  9. I guess it’s like professional athletes, someone offers some huge amount and they’d be stupid to turn it down.  Wouldn’t you do the same?  Some of those salaries are far larger than I think they should be, but they didn’t ask me.

  10. This is quite a racket. EMMC builds a power plant and sells excess energy back to Bangor Hydro under the guise of being non-profit. They just keep expanding their physical plant and cut back on staffing levels.

    1. Paul Bangor Hydro is required to purchase excess energy production from anyone. Have a windmill in your backyard? Does it produce more that you use? If the answer is yes BHE is required to purchase the excess energy.

  11. Hospital executive pay is ridiculous……full stop.
    What a racket. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Skowhegan and Lincoln are getting taken to the cleaners.

  12. Hah,
    And I distinctly remember all the hate and vitriol posted here against the nurses at EMMC last year.
    What do you say about the CEO hogs at the trough??

  13. Anyone who thinks these people are overpaid are wrong… $230,000 to $330,000 is a bargin for what they do..  They deserve more….  if anything they are underpaid…

     Heck go down to the Federal Building in Bangor an ask an Electrician what they make per year working for the contractor doing the remodel.. $100K plus, plus.. and there are at least 20 of them there.

    Just because most people are underpaid in their profession doesn’t mean everybody has to be underpaid.
    Wake up!!! they are now starting an income level war, and why because the can.

        1.  It IS off topic and it is quite a stretch to link an electrician’s salary to a CEO’s salary.  Completely irrelevant. Also, there is no way an average electrician is making over 100k a year no matter who they work for. Complete LIE. Not to mention, an electrician, even an apprentice, works harder than a CEO any day of the week.

          1. OK Rachel if it’s off topic than it’s off topic for the OWS movement to make an issue of the 1% too. See a persons salary is only relevant when people don’t like it.

            I know a firefighter who gets all upset when people question how much money he makes (it’s a public record how much he makes) but then turns around and brags about the overtime he makes.

            Do you even know what a CEO does day in and day out?

          2. The OWS movement, still in its infancy, isn’t about how much Wall Street executive’s salaries are (or undeserved bonuses), it’s about the corrupt methods they use to get those salaries and it’s harm to the taxpayer, society and what’s left of the middle class. Also irrelevant, but thanks for playing.

            P.s. Interesting choice of words you used in your last sentence, because that is what a CEO’s schedule looks like during an average week.

          3.  “it’s about the corrupt methods”.

            Sorry, OWS is about the corrupt idea that the rich should share their wealth with the poor, middle class or anyone else. Market wages are what CEO’s, fireman, electricians, and even those demon hedge fund managers and Wall St. execs earn. We are not talking about extortion we are talikng about free enterprise. IF you don’t like it maybe you should complain to the President that passed a 787 Billion bailout package that enabled those CEO’s to keep getting those bonuses. That really shouldn’t be that hard to understand. 

          4. Sorry Rachel but how do you know what OWS was about? Each OWS movement set there own agenda at their general assemblies. That was one of the problems with OWS, no central message no coordinated theme.

            But one of the prevailing themes was the 1% made to much and needed to “share the wealth” with the 99%.

            And how many CEOs, CFOs, COOs, etc…do you know? I know several (and I am not the “1%”) as my work requires that I meet with them on a regular basis. And I know they make more money then I do and I really don’t care. I don’t have a case of “salary envy”.

    1. But electricians do something useful, unlike most CEO’s who do…..what?  Lobby for more money? 

      Rather like the Chancellor of the UM system – – when I inquired what all those people and their fancy offices belonging to the “Chancellor’s Office” did, I was treated rudely, asked why I wanted to know, and was told that they “liaise” with the Legislature.

      Read – they lobby for more money – instead of doing anything useful.

      And there are several who earn well over $100,000, even over $200,000.  That’s our tax money, and I don’t like it one bit.  Get rid of the Chanellors’ Office entirely.

      I’ll bet the smaller hospitals could well do without their overpaid CEO’s, too.  Let the health provider staffs meet and make the decisions.  We’d be better off, I’m sure, and have lower tax bills. 

      1. You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you think you could run a fiscally sound organization bound by the rules and regulations the healthcare industry is? Do you think you could manage a multi-million dollar budget? That’s what I thought. You have no idea the political, social, financial, regulatory etc. etc. pressures CEOs have to deal with on a daily basis and the amount of hours they put in. The fact is, hospitals could not do well without the CEOs and the senior leadership that head up these hospitals. Why do you think so many private practice docs are getting out of the business? I’ll tell you, most of them are sick of dealing with the administrative side of running a good business and most of them have very little business sense. You can disagree with me if you would like, but I work in the industry and am pretty sure I know what I’m talking about.

    1. Try and fix the salaries of physicians to all be the same, oh lets say 100,000 dollars a year or whatever. then see just how far backwards we go when the enrollment for medical schools drops off the cliff. Nursing shortages? Maybe nurses should all be making 10 dollars an hour. Yup that will fix things for sure.

      1. Great point. Easy on reality though. It is too easy to sit back and judge anyone that has more than them. Some call that short man syndrome, others just call it pathetic.

  14. Isn’t there some way the mouth breathers can blame this on Unions? If a nurse makes enough to live on, and many don’t, then the CEO is justified in the huge salary because they have to spend so much time trying to fight Unions. See? All I had to do is say Union and anything can be excused, CEO pay, bad care, huge prices.
    Piece of cake.

  15.  you ever see a Doctor or a CEO in an unemployment line? It’s all about $$$…Wonder what the CEO of CA Dean(the band aid station) pulls in a year…and to think CA Dean is Greenville’s largest employer,for a town of 1315….and how much of that is Fed/State taxpayers money??

    1. would you want to be making 20 dollars an hour if you had 600K in student loans to pay back? what about paying 10’s of thousands yearly for malpracice insurance because Americans are sue happy when everything doesn’t turn out like a fairy tail.

      1.   Sad to say but true. I knew a bone DOC who every year had to pay $100,000 per year in malpratice ins. That alone helped force a good MD to leave medicne.

  16. Lindsay Tice should win a journalism award for this article which was published by the Sun Journal, and picked up by the BDN.  The BDN’s end was to post a poll that is unanswerable with a yes or no response. But I’m grateful that the paper ran the story or I wouldn’t know about it. That’s important.

    It is absolutely wrong that hospitals should not pay property taxes; other nonprofits as well.  The day of the humble nonprofit is gone.  It made sense to give early npos a break – hell, their staff didn’t make enough money to live on oftentimes, and they truly served the community.  I think this should be a primary issue.

    1. As someone who runs a non-profit corporation I can tell you your wrong, If we had to pay property taxes we would be finished, and all of the services we provide would have to be picked up by the local communities in which we have a presence.

  17. Do we ever wonder why the U.S.A  is being priced out of the world economy?  Its the healthcare  system, I think 10 years ago GM, General motors calculated the cost at $5,000 per car that rolled off the line, if you apply that to every other good produced in this country I wonder what this great health care system is truly causing the U.S. in terms of lost jobs, etc.  Individuals in the Health Care industry truly earn their incomes, not crapping on them, just think health care should not be a matter of us working to better our lives, not working to pay health insurance premiums so we can cross our fingers and hope it helps us when it matters!

    1. health care costs are so high because people keep trying to sue the hospital over dumb things, so the hospitals get stuck paying legal fees

  18. Interesting because RFGH is a high cost provider.  Maybe it is time to curtail the excessive salary.  Knowing this, I shop around for the best service at the best price for planned care.  I am appalled at this excessive compensation package and am disappointed with the board of directors that have allowed this to happen.

  19. I am the best deal around. I have a current RN license, a lot of experience in Patient Safety, and I am willing to promote MRSA prevention and Patient Safety in any Maine Hospital for free.  In fact, I did my first free presentation in a Maine critical access hospital just this past Fri.  I am a volunteer, and I will remain a volunteer.  If anybody questions my motives, I tell them about my father, who died in 2009 because of Hospital Acquired MRSA pneumonia.  Nobody should have to go through that, so if I can help teach providers about effective prevention , that is what I will do.  So, it is pretty difficult for me to read about the huge salaries of CEOs….and to know that the reason that the Maine Hospital Association gave for not wanting to make patients safer by screening for MRSA was cost……..well that just yanks my chain………

  20. Bang for your educational dollar — pretty good!  Also, radiology techs (2 year program pay ranges 45K – 65k or so). PTAs, COTAs RNs also make decent wages for the length of the program 2-3 years at any of the community colleges. 

    There is no need to hate someone who has made good decisions and placed themselves in a position (educationally and professionally) to make a whole lot of money.

    I went to school twice as long as most CEOs, have a bunch of student loans and make only a fraction of the dollars! But I enjoy what I do and would not want the headaches these folks have to deal with!

        1. If it is “a vastly better system”:

          Why do Canadians travel to the U.S. for treatments?

          Why is Cancer Care of Maine treating so many Canadians?

          Why do Canadians come to Maine for MRIs?

          Why did the Premier of Newfoundland travel to the U.S. for treatment of a heart aliment?

          Why have for profit clinics where you pay for treatment opening in Canada?

          1. Don’t believe the sensationalized news stories you see or read. Many more Americans travel to Canada for health care than vice versa and now Americans are even traveling to Mexico and Costa Rica. You’re delusional or just being manipulated by the private health care companies if you think the US has a decent system. I don’t know any Canadians that would ever switch systems. It would be kind crazy. Canadian health care is VASTLY better for the average person.

          2. Rachel try answering the questions put to you.

            I am not “delusional” or “being manipulated” by anyone. I see the Canadians on a daily basis in U.S. waiting rooms.

            Tell me, what is the waiting time for a Open MRI for a patient living in Nova Scotia? And where is the closet Open MRI located for patients living in Atlantic Canada?

          3. Arguing MRI waiting time is pettifogging the issue, especially since millions of Americans have NO access to quality health care or the MRI. Yes, it’s great health care, if you can get it, and your private insurer decides to cover the specific ailment. Bottom line is, a Canadian’s life expectancy is about 2 years longer than a US citizen’s. That is indisputable. People get MRI’s in Canada and they save lives. People get MRI’s in America and they go broke soon after.

          4. OK Rachel you simple don’t want to answer questions about the great Canadian health care system. So maybe if I ask really, really nicely you will answer this last question.

            If the Canadian healthcare system is so wonderful why isn’t the “new” American system modeled after it?

          5. I wonder if you are willing to call out a Democrat for excessive CEO compensation?

            There is a prominent Democrat from a famous family that make in excess of $700,000 in compensation and benefits from a non-profit and a for profit company where he is the CEO and President of both.

            In 2010 this famous $74,930 in salary and $8,265 in benefits at the non-profit and $250,209
            salary, $350,000 bonus, and $24,794 in benefits from the for profit arm. That is a total compensation package of $708,197.00.

            Is that figure to much for a CEO and President to make?

            Oh I almost forgot. The non-profit is Citizens Energy Corporation and the for-profit company is Citizens Enterprise Corporation and the CEO and President of both is….Joseph Kennedy Jr.

          6. Why did the NYTimes have an article stating other countries being upset that all of the best medical professionals are moving to the US to practice medicine? I hope you don’t live in Canada and need a knee replacement or some other surgery. If so, enjoy your 6 month minimum wait!

          7.  That’s not typical. How many people here can get a knee replacement for free (paid for with taxes)? How many people in America can get a knee replacement at all?  All Canadians can. The rest of the world is laughing at us Americans. Keep believing the steady stream of misinfo being spewed from paid pundits at Fox, etc, and enjoy living in your fog of spin and outright lies.

          8. That’s not typical huh? I think you are he one living in the fog…a knee replacement “paid for with taxes” is not free. Who do you think pays those taxes?? MMMM that’s right, the working citizens… I’m not saying that our system is perfect by any means, but neither is socialized medicine…at the end of the day someone is still paying for it. There is no such thing as a free lunch…

          9. The real sad thing is that Obama had the chance to really make a difference. They had 100% control and still haven’t passed a budget ! If they did, then he couldn’t demigod the GOP.  From day one, had no idea of transparency or bi-partisanship.   

            Too bad for all of us.  

            I was sure after the failure of HillaryCare that they wouldn’t go down the Pravda style road.

  21.  Most people couldnt be a CEO, so to blame them when everyone here could have done it is wrong. People work hard for their positions they have. CEO have the worst job happiness because they face stress and have to deal with problems. Doctors make more than the CEO. Actually the high paid the CEO’s are the better they are, if you paid health care CEO’s less you would get less quality of workers because they would go into other professions. If you are willing to put in the time to be a CEO do it, if not don’t complain. Use it as motivation not agitation. Most CEO’s dont go out and party, they are busy trying to make sure they are running the hospital successfully.

    1.  I disagree, many people with avg. intellegence can go to school and get an MBA or an MHA, yes an advanced degree but not really that difficult to obtain if you apply yourself. CEO’s are not supermen or women and I know for a fact that nurses and other medical folks work a heck of alot harder then the avg. CEO every day, they deal with lives as in saving them.

      1. a CEO deals with problems. They dont start out at the top. They work 60+ hours. They deals with all of the problems in the hospital. (If you apply your self) not many people do if they did then they could make the money, also there is a lot more competition to be a CEO than a nurse. CEO’s work hard  “I know for a fact that nurses and other medical folks work a heck of alot harder then the avg. CEO every day,” you are basing this off of assumptions, just because a CEO sits in an office doesn’t make them lazy.  You are choosing not to be objective about this. Sometimes people’s bias’s are get in the way  of understanding the real truth.

        I understand that you don’t seek information from a comment on here, you seek to be affirmed that you beliefs are right. If you want to talk about this throw out your bias and see that a lot of CEOs come from poorer families and had to earn everything to get where they are. If people chose not to apply themselves and would rather party or be happy that is their life choice, but don’t go blaming CEO’s for your problems.

        remember use this information as motivation not agitation, that will help you a lot more. 

        1.   Sorry to rain on your parade sunshine, I’m assuming nothing. My statement is based on 25 years as an emergency deptment nurse in major metropolitian areas,  and that was after 4 years as an FMF Corpsmen with the Marine Corps. I think that I’ve dealt with my share of problems on the job also as all of my contemporaries did. I know my strenths and weaknesses and need affermation from no man. Never said CEO’s didn’t work hard nor that their job was easy. I think I was fairly motivated in my life, as far as agitation goes, yeah, sometimes. You have your self a good day.

          1. I didn’t say you didn’t work hard some do, I respect people like you, but there are a lot of people who are lazy and dont have the motivation or work ethic to be a CEO and just complain about CEO’s salaries. anyone can become one if they want to.

        2. You are wasting your time with them, really. They are not capable of seeing the big picture which is exactly why they will never be a CEO no matter what education or experience they have.

  22. You are not going to get quality people to staff hospitals from the top on down if you don’t pay them a good salary.   Trying to get away with less than quality people and your whole system will suffer.

  23. Non-profit status is overused. Truth be told, many for-profit businesses in Maine are non-profit.

      1. EMHS Will be the Best Rural Healthcare System in America by 2012

        At EMHS (Eastern Maine Healthcare Systems), we will be the best rural healthcare system by 2012. Although this may seem like a lofty goal, as an integrated healthcare system, we are already well on our way

        http://www.emh.org/dynamic.aspx?id=6752

        Hummmmmm

  24. Amazing how quick people are to beat up others for what they earn…Although this is a considerable sum…at least this person earns their money as opposed to someone like Romney who sits on his butt and lets the money he stole earlier in his career earn for him by stealing by itself. I guess at least this story is a step up from the total buffoons who decry poor schlub teachers with a degree earning 30,000 in this state…less than half what LIEpage just scored for his useless brother in law.

    1.  I liked your first sentence Uncle. But then you turned around and beat people up for what they earn yourself! Just because you can’t understand how people m ake the money they earn, doesn’t make it less legitimate.

  25. I am sure the CEO does not set his own salary, Some board is saying OK.  600K plus for a CEO in Skowhegan……that’s just not right.

  26. Good example of why our healthcare costs have sky-rocketed. Our “for profit” healthcare is focused on profits, nothing else but bottom line. If you really want an example of obscene salaries, take a look at the CEOs of the healthcare insurance companies: S. Hemsley, United Healthcare  13.2million; E Hanway, Cigna  24.1 million; M. McCallister, Humana 10 million; R. Williams, Aetna 23 million; A. Wise, Coventry  13 million; A Braly, Wellpoint 9.1 million. The former CEO of United Healthcare had a severance package of 1.6 Billion.

    We need a single-payer healthcare system in this country. To continue down this same path is INSANITY, pure and simple.

  27. Mr Lally’s comments seem to imply he thinks he doesnot get enough- car allowance and more than 250 k is all I get.    He ought to spend less time on his personal business and more fixing hios sloppy operation.

  28. It’s unfortunate that Ms.Woodard doesn’t understand what a hospital CEOs do. If you don’t know what they do how can you comment on their salary? Why don’t you look at the financials of Reddington Fairview and Waldo County. Are these hospitals in the black? Have they had to make major cuts to be there? Are they consistently in the red like other hospitals? I think you will find that they are both strong financially, perhaps some of the strongest in the state. Why do you suppose that is? Would seasoned experienced CEOs with sound fiscal sense be the reason? Ms. Woodard, don’t tell me these CEOs aren’t worth that sort of money if their organizations performance is excellent. Why don’t you complain about the amount of money auto industry CEOs make or law firms? These CEOs aren’t even responsible for organizations that save peoples lives. The fact is, these CEOs have years of experience and their organizations are fiscally sound. You get what you pay for….

  29. Maybe the pay is too much, but would you want their job? You would be the fall guy when things go bad, the hero when things are good. Maybe lower wages would bring down the cost some, but the big problem is insurance companies greed………….. 

  30. It isn’t just the health institutions that have become infested with the  (AWV) administration welfare virus.
     Just about every quasi-public organization have been convinced that they can’t survive without a CEO, Assistant CEO, CFO, Assistant CFO, Presidents and directors, and a variety of vice presidents of each sub department – their secretaries and other support staff. Often with enormous pay dividends and benefits extending into a very early retirement and on until death.This welfare super administrative structure is supported by a self stroking board that is increasingly also compensated.  It’s a ruse that has become pandemic !

    We are about to find that AWV is well established in our Public Credit Unions and our Public Media organizations. If you doubt it , just ask what your Credit Union CEO makes for a salary , Or ask what the MPBN CEO, President makes for compensation.

  31. I bet the hair on the back of the necks of these ceo’s stands right up whenever these reports come out. They know they are going to get grief and probably deserve it. I have a hard time feeling sorry for the ceo’s  (making a quarter of a MILLION dollars a year)that haven’t gotten a cost of living raise for two years boo-hoo!!!!!!!!!!!  I guess that’s why no one does. Between unionized demanding RN’s and ceos that make that kind of money, the rest of the hospital peons don’t stand a chance when it comes to compensation for a job well done!

    1. you forgot to say all the competition they face and all the work they do. You also forgot that CEO’s have minimal job security, most of them last 4 to 5 years max. When there is that much competion for your one job and a lot of people are working to take that job I think what they get paid is fair.

  32. “non-profit” defined:  We spend every penny we can on facilities and the rest on executive salaries.  It never seems to occur to the respective boards to reduce the cost of care or to funnel some of that booty to community clinics for the uninsured. 

    The term “non-profit” is nothing more than a tax dodge.

  33. 150,000 doctors have left their profession. We have a serious physicians shortages and it’s only getting worse. Wait until your doctor leaves and you need a new family physician. Good luck with that. Some day not to far in the distance future you will not be able to get in and see a doctor until you have waited a long while to do so. In Canada, it’s not unusual to wait a week to get in and see a doctor. Doctors usually work in large metro areas and come to small states like Maine when they decide to slow down. Look at a hospitals physicians list and it look like who’s who’s in the United Nations. Obama has even made it worse and until we have someone who know’s what they are doing it will only get worse, just when you think it couldn’t.

    1. A 150,000 docs may have left the profession, but it was because they retired, took more lucrative jobs or were removed by the medical board. No one gives up, at minimum, $150,000 job to drive a truck.

      1. Actually, many doctors that come to Maine come because we have one of the lowest rates for malpractice suits, making their insurance less expensive and cost effective to set up business here. They don’t come here to “slow down.” 

  34. Ah, yes.  The War on Sucess.  An all too familiar strategy.  Apparently we’d all rather have people living off the state, instead of providing for the state.

    1. Why,yes of course – success at any cost !         Free  ….Bernie Madoff . The epitome of the successful businessman screwed by the wannabe’s..

      1. No,  he broke the law.  Are you comparing these people to a vile criminal like Bernie Madoff?  If so, you are as despicable as he is.

        1. The law serves those who paid to have it created it. The public is currently not much in that loop – all they do is to pay the salaries of those who make the laws for those who benefit from the laws.

          Apparently you are comfortable with the fact that Wall Street is teaming with people who are free to roam and steal even after taking tens of millions from the funds of regular people. Comfortable with banks that received millions from the public trough but resist making loans to those who bailed them out, while they buy up smaller banks and build still more branches with your money.

          A CEO making almost a million dollars to head a hospital in Maine is just simply another  Bernie Madoff with laws in his back pocket. He makes it ‘caus he can….

          These are PUBLIC institutions, man, not some private club !

          1. And how much of that 1 million dollars do you think he pays in taxes to both the Federal and State government?  Probably enough to fund the checks (or I suppose debit cards these days), that all of you on here receive each month, for several years!  That doesn’t grow on trees or fall from the sky.  It comes directly out of the pockets of other people, who end up supporting you!

  35. I would much rather live in a nation where someone can earn several hundred thousands of dollars than one where no one can. Wage envy fixes nothing. These are businesses: no profit, no ability to stay in business. Everyone, from part-time laundry to 60-hr/week CEOs are reviewed and vetted to ensure the business is getting more out of them than what the pay them (return on investment). If you envy their salaries, don’t ask the government to take it away: You’ll never see any benefit from that. Instead, explore how you can earn more and go for it. The harder and smarter you work, the luckier you seem to get.

    1. I have no problem with say, the CEO of a retailer, making a million a year if that is what their shareholders and board agree they are worth. But, a non-profit?? Something that we have to assist in supporting? It’s not okay.

  36. While Mr. Willett was making all that money the hospital refused to give its employees a raise last year.  Unreal, thanks to the newspaper for bringing this to the public’s attention.

  37. Mr Willett made all that money while the hospital failed to provide even a small raise to its employees,  all I can say is WOW !!!

  38. There is no darn person worth that much for acting  (acting) as a CEO   ( Cheat Ever One ).
    They should be controlled  like the insurance companies control the doctors pay.
    All most of them do is give orders to people under them and have them do all the work needed to be done.

  39. It’s funny how there are tons of lay-offs every time you turn around impacting the “little guy”, piling on the work for the people that are left behind….yet, the CEO’s and VP’s never take a pay cut…why is that?  If those large salaries were cut, gathered up, I’m sure theycould avoid a number of lay-offs.  That’s the type of bold decision making that shows a community the CEO’s/VP’s are for the greater good of the community, yet they choose to pad their pockets.  It’s all about the rich keep getting richer…makes me sick!

  40. The more I read about CEO salaries, the more I wish I majored in CEOing in college. I’m not saying they don’t work hard for the money. But have you ever heard of anyone who doesn’t work hard for their pay?

    1. the fact you said majored in CEO makes you a genius. CEO’s normally major in business, and then they get an MBA. Plus a lot of them work for 20 years to make that money

  41. The right wing teacher haters chimed in about “being paid with public money”. We pay Exxon Mobil, we pay the hospitals with public money, tax breaks and more. Their own (right wing) logic, to use a kind word, means we can set what they get.

  42. It is because of people like this as to one of the #1 reasons why taxpayers pay too much for so little in return….I know someone who went through Chemo and they had to pay $75 an hour just for the Chemo bag to hang on the pole for 5 hours ata  time! This is ridiculous seeing that it dated back to 1981….can you imagine the money they have made just off of a pole??!!!!
    Welive in a very greedy state and a very greedy country and I only seeing it gettng worse………..

  43. I pay my family Dr. $25 co-pay when I go to see him..When I go to see a specialist it becomes $50 co-pay…the problem with that is that I only see an assistant…I never see the Dr…so why is an assistant worth more than my family Dr.??????????

  44. Its easy. Load your board with friends and highly paid people. You wash my back, I wash yours. They will put you or your friends on thier board to ensure it is a two way street. It is ridiculous for the CEO of a small hospital to make half a million a year. And don’t give me crap about how he works 60 hours a week, slaving. He is no different then any other employee.

  45. CEO’s have very little education compared to Dr’s,pharmacist and some nurses, but a CEO can dictate how much there employees make for a salary. If hospitals aren’t doing well it can’t be all that they are not getting paid by insurance companies, management is the problem. Then you look at how much it costs to Life Flight someone in Washington County to EMMC, $9,00o, on top of all the other medical bills a patient has they have to pay a great deal of this flight. Don’t get me wrong most of these flights are emergent. Long gone are the days when a Dr could admit a patient for a week for medical testing, respite for family members and various other reasons. Out patient services are very costly, every cat scan, ultrasound,MRI,lab work, treadmill that is ordered costs the patient a lot. You may pay $400-$1,000 out of pocket  for your insurance  each month but when your health care bill arrives there is still a big co-pay. How affluent are the insurance companies becoming? How about Socialized Medicine?

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