When Zachary Tomaselli was sent to prison for sex crimes last month, he asked the judge to delay his sentence for a week.
The Lewiston man said he needed those seven days to wean himself off methadone, the drug he had been getting at a clinic to help him kick a prescription drug habit.
Thousands of addicts living “on the outside” visit Maine’s for-profit clinics for weeks, months and even years for their prescribed methadone doses. A large majority of those addicts are MaineCare clients, paying for methadone treatments with taxpayer dollars.
According to the Department of Health and Human Services, Maine spends about $9 million in state and federal funds every year to dose just over 3,100 MaineCare and Medicare clients every day. The state spends another $7 million a year to transport clients to methadone clinics.
That’s $5,140 per MaineCare patient per year.
Under the recently passed state budget, MaineCare clients are subject to a 24-month lifetime cap for methadone treatment. That cap is expected to save Maine more than $1.3 million a year.
According to Susan Sullivan, director of CAP Quality Care Clinic in Westbrook, patients there “are anxious and afraid of losing their treatment. Some are looking to be proactive and starting to taper themselves out because they don’t know what’s going to happen.”
If Tomaselli believed he could lick his drug habit in just a week, why wouldn’t — or shouldn’t — every drug addict do the same?
The answer, according to experts, is as complex as the subject of drug addiction itself.
Withdrawal is harsh reality
The good news for Tomaselli, experts say, is that he likely wasn’t in any danger of serious health risks had he decided to go cold turkey before trading his street clothes for jail garb.
The bad news — depending on how long he had been treated with methadone and at what dosage — is that his withdrawal might have been more grueling than his looming 3½-year prison sentence.
Dr. Michael E. Kelley, chief of psychiatry at St. Mary’s Regional Medical Center in Lewiston, said the effects of withdrawal from methadone are unique.
Because the medication is used as a maintenance narcotic for clients limited to a single dose each day, the drug typically stays in the body longer than other narcotics, he said.
“It is incredibly long-lasting,” he said.
That means withdrawal from that drug can linger for a week or longer. Sometimes up to a month.
Although not physically dangerous in an otherwise healthy adult, withdrawal can make you feel like you’re dying, Kelley said in an interview at the hospital, where he works as an addiction specialist, treating people with chemical dependency in residential and day programs.
“They can have a very miserable withdrawal,” he said.
It often includes severe flulike symptoms, including vomiting, diarrhea, sweating, chills and muscle cramps.
“But you won’t die,” Kelley said. The only possible medical risk is dehydration, he said.
The greater risk for narcotic addicts is relapse, experts say.
‘Jail isn’t a hospital’
While withdrawal from narcotics, including methadone, is usually safe, withdrawal from certain other drugs and alcohol can be dangerous, even fatal, according to medical experts.
Withdrawal from alcohol, benzodiazepines (tranquilizers) and barbiturates can be “very dangerous,” Kelley said.
Stopping those drugs too quickly can sometimes trigger seizures, heart arrhythmias and delirium tremens (in alcoholics), he said. The latter can be dangerous because those patients become disoriented and may inadvertently harm themselves.
Jails sometimes bring prisoners into the emergency room if they’re suspected of alcoholism or addiction to tranquilizers and show signs of withdrawal, Kelley said.
While the jail might let someone addicted to narcotics “tough it out,” they won’t take a chance on the other addictive populations, Kelley said.
“The jail’s not going to risk that,” he said. “The jail isn’t a hospital.”
When inmates come to St. Mary’s emergency department for medical clearance, hospital staff screens patients for drugs and toxic substances, checking their general health.
Doctors quiz the patients about drug use.
“Hopefully, they’ll be honest.” he said. But, too often they’re not. They fear their candor might get back to their probation officers. Although emergency room chats with doctors are confidential, inmates are on their guard generally and may not confide in the medical staff.
“Sometimes they lie to us,” Kelley said, “which is part of the scary thing.”
Doctors typically watch inmates suspected of drug or alcohol abuse for 12-16 hours, he said, but added, “There is no magic [time] line.” And there is no predicting a patient’s tolerance based on his or her history of drug or alcohol use.
No methadone for prisoners
At Maine’s correctional facilities, including its prisons, the state contracts its medical services with Corizon, a national company based in Tennessee. Three county jails in Maine, including Androscoggin County Jail in Auburn, also have contracts with Corizon.
The company has 150 health care professionals working at the state facilities. An additional 65 workers staff the three jails, according to Pat Nolan, a company spokesman.
Corizon would provide only written answers to questions posed by the Sun Journal for this story.
While it declined to detail how chemically dependent inmates are treated during intake at Maine’s prisons and jails, the company said it uses “standard, humane and medically approved detox protocols for these addictions.”
Inmates who attend methadone clinics prior to incarceration are not dispensed methadone at any of the correctional facilities where Corizon is under contract. Pregnant inmates using methadone are treated by an off-site OB-GYN doctor licensed in prescribing Buprenorphine, a semisynthetic opioid used to treat opiate-based drug addiction. After delivery, those inmates follow the standard detox protocols, Nolan said.
If an inmate were to come to jail or prison with a current prescription for Oxycontin or oxycodone, those drugs wouldn’t be dispensed, except in “very rare” cases, the company said.
Inmates with a medical marijuana certificate won’t be dispensed that drug at Maine’s prisons and jails, either, but substitutions could be considered on a case-by-case basis, the company said.
In all, roughly 90 percent of the inmates who enter Maine’s prisons and other correctional facilities have a history of addiction to one or more drugs (including narcotics, benzodiazepines or barbiturates) or alcohol.
Relapse rate is high
So, why don’t all methadone addicts spend a week weaning themselves from the drug like Tomaselli?
Some may try. But most will need more time. And a small percentage likely will need to stay on methadone until they die, experts say.
Sullivan, the director at CAP, where opioid addicts are treated with methadone, said the first goal is to stabilize clients on a suitable dose of medication.
Opioid addiction is a brain disease, she said, best treated with medication and psychosocial support. Clients who come to her clinic get both.
Like any addiction, “It’s a progressive disease,” she said. “The longer you use, the worse it gets and the more you use … so that treatment is based on the individual.”
Studies have found that patients with this chronic disease undergo a change in brain chemistry in which they are lacking free endorphins which, for many, means they likely will need medication throughout their lifetimes, she said.
The long-term goal of treatment is to improve a client’s ability to function at home, at a job and in the world.
Studies show it works.
Typically, relapse rates are 70-90 percent among those who leave methadone maintenance treatment, she said, even among those who taper to zero.
An alternative for opioid addicts to being on a maintenance program at a methadone clinic may be to seek street drugs, which can expose addicts to hepatitis C and HIV through shared and dirty needles, blood clots and possible overdose, among other health risks.
Some may try prescription shopping, a ploy medical professionals are increasingly more aware of and on which federal and state drug agencies have cracked down.
A patient on Sullivan’s caseload was in methadone treatment before he tapered his dosage to zero and left, she said.
“Within a year, he relapsed,” she said. “And then he came to this clinic and he’s been here about 9½ years and he’s tapering out, decreasing his medication so he can leave. To zero eventually. That’s his desire.”
By taking a gradual approach, that client is more likely to succeed, she said.
She said patients and staff at CAP are anxious about the new 24-month MaineCare cap. Under the new DHHS rule, that cap can be exceeded with prior MaineCare authorization.
However, Sullivan said, “We’re waiting for the criteria for prior authorization. We have no idea what that’s going to be.” Once that process is established, “that will probably be the determinant on who loses treatment,” she said.
In the 10 years her clinic has been open, Sullivan said the number of clients has averaged about 550 at any given time.
“We’ve had over 3,000 patients come and go,” she said. “And some stay.”
The MaineCare cap will have an adverse effect on methadone clinics across the state, Sullivan said. Nearly 70 percent of all clients are on MaineCare. And, under the MaineCare reimbursement cap, that patient load is likely to decrease if MaineCare-capped patients can’t pay out-of-pocket.
Fewer than 200 methadone patients pay for treatments with private insurance, which leaves about 1,000 patients without MaineCare or private insurance paying for their own treatments.
Although her clinic exists to treat addiction to narcotics, some people who became addicted started with a doctor’s prescription for pain, she said.
Pain and narcotic addiction “are not necessarily mutually exclusive,” she said.
“Even addicts get real pain,” St. Mary’s Dr. Kelley said. Those are the ones who are likely to stay on methadone or Suboxone (a partial narcotic, offered by St. Mary’s instead of methadone) the rest of their lives, he said.
The other group that would have to stay on clinical treatment includes those who are so addicted they likely would harm themselves otherwise through risky drug behavior. No rehab program, however proven and long-term, is going to work for them.
“There’s just that once-in-a-while person that everything’s failed, no matter what,” he said.
But studies he’s seen show that opioid addicts who attend methadone clinics are less likely to contract HIV or hepatitis C and less likely to be charged with crimes. They work more days and achieve higher levels of education.
“So it does reduce the harm, not only to them, but to society, in many ways [to maintain methadone treatments],” he said.
St. Mary’s approach to addiction is that 99.9 percent of addicts can be weaned off and can stay off drugs and alcohol — “all chemicals,” Kelley said.
“And that requires a hell of a lot more than just taking a pill,” he said. “It requires learning about yourself, doing what we call the recovery work … learning why I use, how I can cope with life without drugs.”
Addicts who have been using drugs to cope with life will have to relearn how to cope without them. “That’s how they dealt with every single emotion,” he said.
And some addicts who have been abusing drugs since their early teens will have to learn those coping skills for the first time.
“How many coping skills do you have at 13 years old?” Kelley said. “Once you start using drugs for everything, you don’t learn new coping skills because you don’t need to. You’ve got a coping skill. It’s right there in your pocket. And so, some of these people are starting from scratch.”
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Well of course they do if it wasn’t for keeping addicts addicted and alive they wouldn’t have a six figure income. If there was only a substitute for alcohol…………….
Leaping nimbly over every fact in the story, and landing on your own preconceived notion…
Maybe we can just give them a check and they can shop for best price from the local drug dealers! Giving them synthetic heroin to help their addiction with heroin. Where’s the logic in that? Let them get off it the same way they got on. Eliminate the middle man
total waste of hard working taxpaer money.
Why is it the taxpayers that have to foot the bill for the bad decisions of the addicts.
people can be addicted to many different thing other then drugs. And we are supose to foot the bill for them too.
They need to go cold turkey and tough it out.
Taxpayers are going to pay one way or the other…and it is actually much cheaper to provide methadone and transportation than it is to incarcerate, which would happen with many, if not most of the addicts in treatment. There would also be a dramatic rise in personal property crimes, violent crimes and the like. Methadone is actually the most cost effective way to deal with the problem, whether you like to hear that or not.
Apparently you don’t watch the news much. Drug related crimes are actually on the rise. Methadone clinics have been around for years and have done nothing to lower the crime rates. The only thing metahdone clinic’s do is trade one addiction for another. In reality it is no more cost effective than incarceration, it just makes some people feel better.
My chosen field is social services which includes working with addicts among other populations, so I am quite familiar with the issue, thanks. All crime is on the rise, as is typical in a poor economy. Shut down methadone clinics and you will see a higher crime rate per capita than any city in the US.
Methadone is not the answer.
That actually depends upon the question. For some people and under some situations, methadone is the best course of treatment. Pregnant women addicted to opiates…methadone is the best choice because without such treatment it is most likely the unborn child will die. For opiate addicts who became addicted due to chronic pain from back injuries, debilitating illnesses causing severe pain methadone is likely to be needed for the rest of their lives in order to manage their pain. Next let’s look at harm reduction. Without methadone there would be addicts sharing needles and spreading Hepatitis C and HIV. Many addicts would be doing whatever necessary to get their next fix due to the extreme nastiness of withdrawl. People honestly feel like they are going to die…and that’s just from the physical aspects of withdrawl. That doesn’t even address the emotional/psychological aspects of severe, overwhelming depression and having to face whatever ghosts they were running from in the first place. See, you are assuming that every addict has the strength, steady mind, fortitude and support system where just quitting would be easily accomplished. Reality doesn’t work that way. People who become addicts are often quite broken inside as it is, unless addiction came from pain medication. People who become addicted don’t start out as healthy, well-adjusted people. Something was wrong from the get go, so overcoming the addiction isn’t simply a matter or having will power. It’s far more complicated than that.
subutex is actually the prefrerred tx not methadone! Those who are on low dosage of methadone for pain (10mg) get it from their PCP. Many addicts on methadone continue to use! This still does not mean that the tax payers should be footing the bill for drug tx.
Since you are in the profession, on a clearly professional first and then a personal opinion, what real chance do these kids born to opiate addicted mothers really stand anyway? How in the world can a mother do that to her own child? As far as the nastiness of withdrawal, there is an old saying that i truly believe in…You play with fire, you should expect to get burned….You do drugs, you should expect to feel like, or possibly actually die from the poor choice.
So then people getting disability benefits for being alcoholics and or supported by tax payers in similiar programs should be kicked to the curb, as should babies born with alcohol and drugs addictions. How about tax payers paying for weight loss operations and care for overweight people or their groceries?
People forget father’s “contribution” to a life of a child. If he’s an alcoholic or drug addict he can “donate” his problems, how can a father do that to his child?
I’m all for saving myself money, but the government isn’t going to give it back to us or cut taxes.
I believe in putting them in rehab centers and getting them off drugs, not substituting one drug for another. Whether or not drug addiction is complicated, the Fact remains, in the beginning they made the choice to use, Everyone knows you get addicted, especially to things like heroine and Oxycontin, so if you decide to use them that it’s you that needs to go through the withdrawal, maybe that would deter some people from starting in the first place. I’m glad they finally (at least) put a cap on Methadone, why should I have to pay for years for someone to get methadone just because I decided to skip the heroine and go to work…..
made the choice to use? not everyone with a narcotic addiction made any choice… I was involved in a car accident where i was partially ejected from the vehicle. it broke my back in 3 differnt spots. i was on the pain meds for 3 years in and out of surgery. so where was it that i had a choice?!?! like i said not everyone with an addiction is a junkie.
I am sorry that you were in an accident BUT who made the choice to use for 3 years?
I didn’t say everyone with an addiction is a junkie, as for someone in your situation I have stated on here before that in those situations the addict needs to be working with the Primary Care Dr, not going to the methadone clinic, to get weaned off and get sober, or whatever is needed to manage your pain. I am referring to the person that does it just to get high and gets addicted, they got themselves into that situation and they should be held accountable for getting themselves out.
When you have seen first hand what the drug addict do to their family, my sympathy does not lie with the druggies. I do not feel sorry for them in having their “ghosts” to deal with. We all have ghosts, we all have struggles and issues to overcome. Life is not easy for anyone. And overcoming addiction isn’t simple I agree but I totally disagree with you on willpower. Having willpower and a different mind set IS as simple as that….
thank you for your informed information…I don’t think you’re going to change a lot of opinions in this forum,but thanks for trying. I have worked in the recovery field for a long time,and one of the newer pathways to recovery from opiate addiction is medication-assisted recovery,with methadone being the drug of choice. There are many success stories from people using this for their recovery…keep up the good work.It’s an uphill battle fighting the stigma of addiction recovery…
As you stated Wench that people that are on methadone are because that is how they cope with life. Everyone copes with life differently. Everyone makes a choice on how they cope with life and these people chose medications
Then what is the answer? If you took methadone away from all these people what do you think will happen? You dont think that there would be more store robberies bank robberies pharmacy robberies?? They will need to get the “high” and trust me they will do what it takes to get it whether it is stealing from loved ones to going out and robbing someone else. Havent you seen in the news about these people going in and demanding drugs? Yet instead there are clinics that help these people so they can get off drugs completely and help to lessen crime. And yes I do know that it dont work for everyone and that there are people that go to clinics and get the take home actually go out and sell it but at least that is helping another addict to not be tempted to steal.
So if they are not on methadone they will commit crimes, so that means they were commiting crimes before thay went on methadone and we should have seen a drop in crimes when the program started?
I had a conversation with a person in a program and their statement was it was cheaper for them to be in a program so they did’nt have to pay for their own drugs. They have been on methadone for 6 years and are just starting to taper.
Getting people on methadone and keeping them on it for life or even several years and adding new customers every year is a great business model for sustainable long term profits, but not sustainable when the majority of the business generated is paid for with other people’s money.
While I agree that methadone treatment could be done much better…and many people put on it would be better off on Suboxone instead…it is a necessary treatment for many people. The only effective pain medications for extreme pain are all opiate based. They are highly addictive and many people who become addicted developed a problem as the result of a prescription from a doctor. Many people have conditions that involve the need for pain relief for the rest of their lives. If they are addicted to opiates then the only way to manage their pain is with methadone. Those are the folks who need to stay on it for life.
Let’s just say they would be better off on nothing at all!
What part of the word “pain” don’t you understand?
I’ve never had an addiction, and have never needed the treatments addicts get. However, a neurological condition causes me considerable pain. After nearly 8 years of trying one medication after another, when my old neurologist retired I started working with another neurologist–who prescribed methadone.
With methadone, I can sleep 3 or even 4 hours at a time, pain-free. I can spend most or all of a day free of debilitating symptoms. I can work 50-hour weeks.
For gsgofer or anyone to say that a person in pain would be “better off on nothing at all” is to ignore the reality of pain.
I dont think you would find ONE person on this page or otherwise that would say someone who is NOT an addict but suffers from constant pain, such as Phybromyalgia, shouldnt be prescribed something for their pain, but asking us to have sympathy for people that put themselves in this position because of poor choices…sorry, i aint biting on that one.
I was replying to a person who said exactly that:
Oldwench wrote: Many people have conditions that involve the need for pain relief for the rest of their lives. If they are addicted to opiates then the only way to manage their pain is with methadone. Those are the folks who need to stay on it for life.
gsgofer wrote: Let’s just say they would be better off on nothing at all.
very well put!
it’s ‘fibromyalgia’-just sayin’…
There are other ways to treat pain than drugs and most of them are more effective and permanent. One of the problems we have is that doctors are required by law to treat pain. Maybe if doctors took the time out from counting their money, they would explore alternatives. Think about the damage lonf term drug use of anything does to the human liver among other things. Sometimes a person, drug abuser or not has to accept responsibility for their own actions.
Medical marijuana is a much better alternative to treat pain.
“Sometimes a person, drug abuser or not has to accept responsibility for their own actions.”? What a ludicrous statement that is. Doctors are not required by law to treat pain. In fact, more and more medical practices will not even accept a patient who is on narcotics. I know a woman who was on Methadone for 17 years for treatment of a respiratory disease. She was allergic to almost every other medication. Her physician left the medical practice so she was assigned a new physician, who happened to be a new grad. That idealistic young medical genius decided that this woman no longer needed to be on Methadone and refused to renew the prescription. I wish everyone posting negative comments could have witnessed the pure h*ll this poor woman went through in withdrawal. It got so severe that she was finally hospitalized. Even then she couldn’t get anyone to renew the Methadone. Finally, arrangements were made for her to be seen in a local Methadone clinic, but ONLY if she signed a statement declaring herself to be a drug addict! This woman has multiple medical problems and is in very poor health. What these doctors did to her was absolutely criminal. I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for drug addicts. However, patients who are prescribed Methadone for the treatment of pain shouldn’t be castigated for it. I, too, am on a very low dose of Methadone for the treatment of chronic pain and I curse the doctor who first prescribed it each and every day. Had I known it to be so difficult to stop taking, I never would have agreed when the doctor wanted to put me on it. I DO accept responsibility for my “own actions” insofar as I should have researched this drug. However, at the time I naively thought that because it is given to former drug addicts, it must be okay because those addicts would only be on it for a finite period of time. Boy, was I wrong- I put faith in this doctor, who I assumed was knowledgeable about what she was prescribing. I wouldn’t wish this horrible drug on my worst enemy. There is a vast difference between accepting reponsibility and being misled by a physician who should know better. I don’t think a blanket statement about “other ways to treat pain” is really very helpful to those who have been in it for years.
Everyone in their lifetime encounters pain. Life is pain. I, like everyone else have had my share and now that I am in the later part of my life expect to encounter more. I am sorry you and your friend became addicted. Maybe you should have studied the effects of the drugs you were taking. It was your decision to take them and it will have to be your decision to stop! Noone took you down and forced them down your throat. I, as a taxpayer, would be happy to help financially to help you quit, but don’t expect me to put hard-earned money into supporting your habit.
You may want to try medical marijuana. It does wonders for pain and is natural so it has fewer side effects and pharmaceuticals.
I’ve considered it–thanks. I suspect it wouldn’t be a good idea until I retire in a year or two, since these days I work 50-hour weeks in a demanding and highly technical field. I can’t afford to get too laid-back at work!
When used as medicine, using the proper strain at the best dose, there is no “laid back” feeling. Many of the edibles treat the pain in the body, without changing the mental status.
Some strains are specifically for the pain in the body, yet they don’t have a significant impact on the mind. One actually has a clearer mind when treating pain in a natural way because the brain isn’t so fixated on the pain.
When used in small doses, pain can be adequately controlled without being “high.”
And they don’t need to go to a methadone clinic if they need to be treated for chronic pain. That’s for their specialists to prescribe. Are you actually saying that people in methadone treatment are there for pain treatment?
Some have both–an opiate addiction and chronic pain.
Pure crap
Your “conservative” (dare I say Republican?) ability to discuss facts in a logical and respectful manner is as brilliant as it has ever been.
No not pure crap since some of those patients get addicted to opiates from a chronic pain issue. YET those patients dont use a clinic they use their own PCP
using these drugs for pain is entirely different and should be managed with their primary care doctor, not at clinics where drug addicts have to go. Completely different, I don’t even see how one has anything to do with the other, people in serious, chronic pain are not in the same category as someone that just wanted to get high, and now we are all paying for that bad choice.
Switch them to medical marijuana so that they can clear their system of this toxic pharmaceutical.
Wow, i completely agree. This is a For Profit business, nothing more in in many instances far less, because they are bringing in their customers that cannot get off the drug, and as the article stated, will likely be on for life. That is pretty good job stability for those in this business.
EMMC is non profit but look at how much money they make (including employees) and all the adding on of new buildings including their own power plant……..oh wait isn’t “The Clinic” owned by EMMC?
Huh? Do you realize the State of Maine owes EMMC over $100 million for medicaid patient reimbursements in the last 15 years that have not been made? EMMC has been struggling with it’s finances, which is why their plan to build a new tower adding more patient rooms has been put off for several years. EMMC employees make less money statistically than the national average; hence why the nurses are striking again. Please check your facts before spewing ignorance in this forum.
Ok Mr. facts they make less money then who nationally, I have family in the medical field in other areas of the country so tell me the difference.
Tell me, lets compare.
I refuse to be held hostage to criminal behavior or the threat of crime so you can continue to be employed. It sounds too much like extortion.
I agree. Keep funding the program or something bad is gonna happen sound like extortion to me
Yep, just like saying that if you don’t fund fire departments, houses will burn flat.
I don’t think you are speaking of comparable situations but I’ll ask it anyway. Are you advocating that we pay arsonists not to set fires?
As you well know, I’m saying that when a problem exists, and people (fire fighters, police, social workers, other professionals) are addressing it, the Republican mantra is to say that
1) if we did NOT address the problem, it wouldn’t happen (no drug addicts, burning buildings, criminals); and
2) the people addressing a problem (fire fighters, police, social workers) are invested in seeing the problem grow worse, since they get paid to deal with it.
You didn’t answer my question.
If some people in the community are committing arson because they have a brain disorder, I would treat the brain disorder.
You might categorize that as “paying them.” I call it “treating them.”
a brain disorder? comparing that to someone that decided to start using drugs so now we all have to pay for it???? I do not understand how you can even use that as a comparison. The comments on here are right on, this is like using scare tactics to keep their jobs, if you can’t get an addict (not someone in pain that should be at their doctors office, not the clinic) off the addicting substance and then off methadone in 2 years, then they aren’t really there to get clean…
Do you really believe kids age 10 or so and up start using drugs on purpose, knowing they’ll get addicted, just for the thrill of making you pay for their treatment?
10 or so?! give me a break… you just sound like you’re trying to justify your position, sounds like you either work in the field, therefore this affects your income, or your are a client….
Another personal attack (yawn).
I work in a health-care related field (not social work, and nothing to do with methadone), but perhaps more to the point I’m in my mid-60s and have known a very wide variety of people, both professionally and as a friend, neighbor, or relative, under all sorts of circumstances.
Yes, some people do become addicted to drugs as pre-teens.
And here we go yet again with the tired slander that anyone who hopes that people with drug addictions might be regarded as worthy of treatment is surely just trying to keep themselves employed.
worthy of treatment perhaps, 5 or 6 years on methadone to “get clean” on my dollar is another matter entirely.
People in the community do commit arson, and the “treatment is jail. Maybe jail could be the treatment for people who use legal drugs illegaly and/or illegal drugs.
Few ask for their house to burn down. Fire fighters would be much happier if all they did was train and fight wild fires rather than deal with children perishing in house fires or themselves for that matter. To compare the two is actually pretty disturbing.
I’m sure social workers would be a lot happier if all they had to do was help people adjust to relatively minor problems.
I mention fire fighters and police in an effort to help Commenters understand the divide-and-conquer tactice being used by the right wing. They are currently demonizing social workers as part of their concerted effort to demolish social services.
I realize it’s easy to demonize drug addicts. I don’t particularly like any of the ones I’ve met. But I’ve also seen children and young teens who have already been started on that road–when they were too young to make an informed choice.
I’ve seen adults with probably pretty low IQs, and people suffering severe emotional pain from abuse that would make your hair stand on end, who started using street drugs in a desperate effort to feel better. Then things go from bad to worse, of course, but they didn’t have the ability to foresee that when they started. Not everyone in this world has a decent IQ or the ability to reason that most of us take for granted.
I’m not willing to despise all people who have a drug addiction.
Why are YOU the only one making this a Republican vs Democrat thing here today?
Several others have used words including liberal and Democrat and conservative.
Maybe your opinion is tainted by job security.
If this handout is cut then there wouldn`t be a shortfall for DHHS.
And those of you who need these folks to stay addicted in order to support you, will always support keeping the clinics open.
Well, I guess we just keep paying for everything with the attitude of “we are paying either way”…….that is going to do our country some good.
I would actually favor jail over methadone IF Maine opened a treatment facility jail that provided intensive rehab and sent addicts to mandatory state rehab for a year…but it’s unlikely we’ll ever see that. No one can succeed on a 7 or 21 day rehab…it’s not enough time.
You make it sound like paying blackmail
you must be a methadone participant wench! I agree with Kylie. Most of the addicts that are on methadone for maintence also chose not to increase their dosage, but often have no choice but to go up or get kicked out of the program…what kinda tx. is that?
That is called “Making sure you keep your clientelle”,
I think the answer is more complex than that of most of the posters. I agree that for most long-term addicts — especially those who are also dealing with physical pain issues — methadone probably *is* the best answer. I don’t, however, like to see it blithely given to twenty-somethings (much less teenagers), for whom withdrawal is a greater possibility. Shouldn’t generalize one way or the other.
I agree….you do not give an alcoholic a drink a day to stop him from drinking. Taxpayers should not be paying the bill. This is just an excuse for these people to stay on their drugs. Cold turkey and if they are in jail for awhile…guess they are going to have to stop or figure a way not to get in jail.
And why are we the taxpayers paying for these treatments?
Because the libs say so. You know the drill, the young, the old, and the vulnerable.
If i said what i feel when i here you tea bagger types rant i would be banned from this site. So as i must maintain my self and simply repeat a quote my grandfather use to say. “Ignorance loves company” and by the way i am a lifelong democrat but am very concervative believe it or not.
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if the goal of the addict is, truly, total abstinence then a 24 month cap is more than fair. i never realized that methdone clinics were run for profit. do you think they might have a vested interest in prolonging treatment?
The problem with a 24 month cap is that it punishes those who became addicted to pain medication prescribed by a doctor for pain management from serious injuries or degenerative/disabled medical conditions that cause severe pain. Those folks can’t go back on oxycodone or percocets, etc. They will just get addicted again. Methadone stays in their system much longer and helps to better manage that pain. Often these are life long issues that don’t just go away after two years. The cap is fine for people who didn’t get addicted due to an injury or illness, but not for all people.
they should be doing this with their doctor, NOT at the clinics…
oh ya, lets toot our horn so we can keep the bogus job, while we’re at it, lets get more drunks their social security early! unreal,, why do i work anyway? its clearly a better deal to become a welfare recipient..
These clinics are not in the rehad business, If they were they would be out of business…
The encourage pot smoking and drinking, additive behavior is what keep them comming back
Actually, methadone and suboxone patients need to submit to drug tests constantly, to make sure they are not doing anything like smoking pot (totally stupid, as marijuana does have medicinal benefits for some people). People with take-home doses are monitored by tests to make sure they have the right amount in their system, or turn in their strips, in an effort to make sure that the drug is not diverted. I know quite a few people, from all walks of life, who all had different circumstances that led them to addiction to pain meds… the majority of those people were prescribed strong meds for severe pain after surgeries. I don’t mean somebody who just had one surgery, I am talking about people who have lived through incredible car crashes and sporting accidents. It is wrong to paint everybody with the same brush.
if they got addicted from circumstances of great pain then they should be working with their Primary Care Dr to get clean, not going to the clinics that just want to “keep ’em coming”
Agreed. I went through some terrible surgeries and I am not addicted to pain pills as my doctor and I worked on what would work best for pain management.
I chose to not take the vicodin, oxy’s and whatever else. Those who say that drug abuse is not a choice had that choice as well, so I don’t buy the “not a choice” excuse.
What about those that have severe, chronic pain that is not going to go away? I know two people that are on methadone for pain relief and that is all they are on. Both went to a pain managment specialist/doctor (not the same one) and were transitioned to methadone from oxys, etc., because of the potential danger of being robbed, etc., that comes with some of these drugs. They were referred to the pain management docs by their primary care MDs.
Unless you have experienced daily, intractable physical pain, it would be hard to understand how horrible that is; it’s a life sentence of misery and often impacts the person’s ability to function normally (a job, taking care of a home and a family, etc.). I am very fortunate to be in good health, but I have seen much suffering.
Being tethered to a drug forever is something that NOBODY would wish for. I agree with the idea of weaning addicts off, but some will need pain relief for the rest of their lives. Again, to paint all of the people on methadone with the same brush is wrong.
Medical marijuana is a better treatment for chronic pain than pharmaceuticals.
I have no problem with people being given Methadone for severe chronic pain, they get it from the Dr and fill the script at the pharmacy. This isn’t the same thing at all.
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How many times? How many years? How many millions?
I am not privy to the actual numbers but my understanding is that the recidivism rate is very high.
Addicted Maine inmates have no choice but to go off drugs ‘cold turkey’
<<<<<< This earlier article was a good article BDN then we stretch over to the other side with this article and say the exact opposite… No i do not want my tax money going to these programs, i do not do drugs, i do not participate in any illegal activities, why the hell would i want to pay for them? As for the "clinicians" advocating for maintenance methadone, as long as addicts are kept out of jail by setting them up with this treatment well then i guess they will be able to continue to see their appointed worker and keep them with a steady income.. Maybe the incarceration route is more expensive.. But maybe if faced with prison time instead of free drugs those addicted would be more likely to try and quit on their own!!!
I don’t even know why I go to work everyday. If I had just got hooked on pills and been a drug addict, people would be willing to pay my expenses or the rest of my life. We’ll call it a “disorder” or a “medical condition”, and I won’t have to take responsibility for my actions for the rest of my life. Just go get my dope in the morning, spend my gas money on pot, and sit on my porch watch all the suckers drive by on their way to work.
Sounds like you are envious of these folks. Why not go get yourself addicted if it’s such a sweet ride like you’ve made it out to be? If you want to envy someone, envy those Bush bailed out when they walked off with our economy. They were wearing ties and suits: no methodone for them! I don’t understand why tea party types like LePage don’t complain about these folks, yet will pick on these small peanuts that cost us next to nothing. Bush’s bailout cost us just about a trillion $$$! These folks are not sitting on their porches watching us workers go by. They are sitting on their verandas watching the yatchts go by. They are the ones to envy Jeremy.
I understand your argument. I propose we pool everyone together that wants to help these “victims” of their own choices and we’ll just divide how much the programs cost amongst you. I just don’t want to pay anymore. That’s all. I just want to help people that want to help themselves.
But you will still bail out the bamking interests who walked with all that money?
I’m not sure where the disconnect is, but I am against handouts. Methadone or Big Bank, it’s a handout. Heroin and pill abusers need “help” with Methadone for the rest of their life, and big banks charge businesses for transaction, customers for transactions, and miraculously need help because they fudged some a few million loans. A handout it a handout. We’re getting to be a society where you don’t have to be accountable and horrible things are on the way for us.
same old same old! Do you ever get sick of repeating yourself??
The truth tires you? You bailed out Bush’s friends. Why doesn’t that get to you? A handful of drug abusers and you get all self righteous. 800 billion to lying bankers and you’re fine with that?
Oh, and the banks are re-paying their loans with interest. Free dope for life will only get us “less crime” if we keep them on the bottle until they die..
I am in total agreement! A conscience is something that is hard to overcome for you and I. Those who are taking our money, don’t seem to be bothered by it though
Give them all the dope they want.
Job security for those involved………….
Most of the public don’t realize that not only do the addicts get the methadone paid for by MaineCare, they also get taxi vouchers to go to the clinics paid for.
My understanding is the mileage is reimbursable if you use private transportation. Can anyone confirm this?
The transportation part of the funding is $7 million, what I have heard most often is taxi’s being paid, I don’t know in regards to private transpo reimbursement, but it would seem that they would reimburse that as well
mileage is reimbursed if you use private transportation, but KVCAP or Lynx will also bring these clients! God they should be getting transportation…they should NOT be able to drive! That is DUI
“needed those seven days to wean himself off methadone”….if he could wean himself off methadone in 7 days…where is the problem? I am sure he had more than 7 days between his arrest and his conviction…..should have been weaned by then.Secondly, if he thought he could do it in 7 days, than why are these other addicts soaking the taxpayers for years at over $5,000 each?
I smoked tobacco for over 40 years…when i could no longer afford to pay for them myself through work, I quit. Perhaps I should have just asked my fellow taxpayers to buy them for me?
Please don’t quit smoking. The government needs your cigarette tax money to spend on important government programs. Smoke more! Please!
Maybe we can come up with a cigarette substitute that you can take for years until you feel your delicate system can handle a step-down. We’ll throw in some counciling and send the bill to the State. I quit smoking after 40 years also. I didn’t whine about it or ask for help. I just did it. These addicts need to realize that they didn’t need help to get on drugs, they should work up the backbone to get themselves off. When they find a doctor who is overprescribing, they should arrest him.
So the babies are born addicted to methadone? Is methadone continued for them or do they go through withdrawal?
They are given small doses of methadone and weaned off the drugs. The poor little mites go through pure hell in withdrawal.
I believe that if a baby is born addicted, the mother should be arrested and thrown in jail for agrivated child abuse. Mommy knows she is doing drugs and gets pregnant anyhow. What’s wrong with this picture? If she is addicted to prescription drugs, the doctor should be required to wean her off drugs early.
Methadone clinics are scams and are legalized drug dealers.
methadone is supposed to be a BRIDGE to sobriety- not a tradeoff for other drugs. The addict must work on a variety of issues & gradually wean him(her)self off this also addictive drug. It is supposed to make the self- work, necessary to treat addiction, a bit easier….& it is NOT supposed to take years- if it does, that is a sure sign that something is wrong. Yes, there should be a cap on how much & for how long, a person can use the Methadone treatment option. And it is time to make people with the disease of addiction, be accountable for their own recovery – not just continue to feed their brains with state- funded programs- these programs are for-profit- I often feel it behooves these programs to keep people on Methadone alot longer than need be.
Heck they are told that it’s alright to smoke pot and even drink. It’s not a rehab program it’s a drug program.
They’d be better off smoking marijuana than taking methadone.
I am as liberal as liberal gets but I really believe that some of these people who own and operate these methadone clinics are in it just for the money and some of the addicts use this resource as a way to get free drugs, and in some cases, sell them to make money. If it is not going to kill them to quit then two years to get yourself straight is enough. I’m willing to give anyone a chance to better their life but at some point in time they have to take the bull by the horns and help themselves.
Welcome to the Republican Party. We’re happy to have you on board.
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I have always been an Independent voter and I will remain that way and with the attitude of the present day Republican party it’s not very likely I’ll be voting Republican any time soon. Holding our country hostage for political gain by using the fillibuster almost 370 times in the last few years and not allowing any jobs bills to be passed is not how you govern responsibly. I can’t think of many reasons anyone would be proud of being a Republican. The growth of government and government spending has been much greater under Republican administrations than they have with the Democrats in charge . Calling Republicans conservative is a joke.
Ok Michael so the Republicans aren’t conservative enough for you and have spent too much, grown government too much, stand in the way of job creation etc. So the answer is elect democrats who want to spend more, believe government is the answer to everything, and want to tax everything that moves and most things that don’t? Brilliant!
Here we go again with the same old Standard lines of untrue Bulls–t. People like you just don’t get it or you just have no use for the truth. Voting for the Democrats in the next election is in fact “Brilliant” when you look at the true goals of each party.
Give the $5,000 a year to kids graduating from High School with a goal of continuing their education and being productive citizens. Many kids that have the grades to go on to further their education can not do so because of funds…and here in Maine we give drug addicts years of free highs — nice! What’s the payoff in that?
Ah yes, reward bad/destructive behavior by keeping them on the public dole indefinitely. The liberals just throw up their hands and give us the “yep, what’cha gonna do…just keep paying”
News flash, most of us are TIRED of paying for this.
This article started out with…… Asking judge for 7 days to wean himself off. If one can wean themselves off in 7 days, why are we feeding addicts the drug for FREE for years??? I say give them ALL 7 days and your off the state!!! If you need intensive drug withdrawl, then it should be inside the hospital, monitored and a locked ward. Stop the free rides.
I drive by Day One on Broadway in South Portland. The parking lot is packed at 8AM and it stays packed all day.
It seems to be somewhat of a scam for all involved, from the people receiving treatment, to the people giving the treatment. It does not benefit anyone to stop quickly because the funds dry up. I say 3 months and to bad if you cannot figure it out by then. If it means a higher incarceration rate then so be it.
I tire of this paper supporting these companies that profit from legalized drug dealing called methadone maintenance, all on the taxpayer dime. Good job Lepage, cut them all off, close these methadone clinics. By the way, no one goes “cold turkey” in custody. They get withdrawal protocol. Under close medical supervision.
Actually, John, I have gone “cold turkey” in custody as have many people I know. Came off months of Opiates and Benzo use. There was no withdrawal protocol. There was no medical supervision. All there was was lying up on my bed in G Block nearly dying for 10 days. The CO’s like to make jokes at your expense, but that’s about all they do. A man also died at PCJ due to alcohol withdrawal. The CO’s left him in the drunk tank and let him die. Also, a guy on Bath Salt died at PCJ within the last year. He clearly wasnt being paid attention to. You have no idea what you are talking about.
No drugs for prisoners unless the warden gets a piece of the action. Saving up to buy that waterfront property — gotta pay full price now since that chamber pot got kicked over.
Ask me if I care even a tiny bit that a man who was convicted of sex crimes, may suffer the consequences of methadone withdrawal???? I don’t care. I say suffer!!!!
I don’t care a bit either and I can’t believe that ****got his name in a newspaper again!!! I live in the Syracuse, NY area. Tomaselli is a world class (insert ugliest name you could call a liar). To see his name in a newspaper *again* just made me want to puke. Ugh.
Since opioids are naturally released in the body when one is strength training, has anyone thought of placing someone on an exercise regimen to help cope with or replace the addiction with something healthy and what our species and bodies were designed to do, rather than another synthesized drug?
Ever notice you don’t feel as much pain when working out, in a good game etc.? Strength training is also a pain killer.
We were not designed to sit in an office chair all day long.
Sometimes you get what you pay for. If you don’t pay much you won’t get much.
Problem is people want the easy way out, and society as a whole wants the quick fix.
Then, they wonder why kids get on drugs at younger and younger ages.
These articles are just part of an effort to sway public opinion to support present funding levels, there is already another article posted on the BDN extolling the virtues of the clinics.
I work in this field, as a master’s level clinician. Five percent of methadone prescriptions are appropriate. The rest are happening because a) it’s cheaper and easier to give out methadone than to have other substance abuse services, and b)methadone is very attractive to addicts. There is no thought given to the risks associated with our current out of control methodone madness, much less the damage that is actually being done.
Most methadone programs should be severely curtailed.
The latter can be dangerous because those patients become disoriented and may inadvertently harm themselves.
Arent they also dangerous to themselves and others when actually USING the drugs?
Some may try. But most will need more time. And a small percentage likely will need to stay on methadone until they die, experts say.
So what they are essentially saying is that a poor choice by an individual becomes a burden for the rest of society that makes the RIGHT choice, so we in all likelihood will pay either by supplying them methadone, or paying for their stays in jail or prison where they can ALSO get this? Does anyone other than me see this as a way for some criminals to actually WANT to go back to jail or prison just to get their fix?
The MaineCare cap will have an adverse effect on methadone clinics across the state, Sullivan said. Nearly 70 percent of all clients are on MaineCare. And, under the MaineCare reimbursement cap, that patient load is likely to decrease if MaineCare-capped patients can’t pay out-of-pocket.
Another words, in summation, the Methadone clinics are no more than a drug dealer themselves and because they can clinically watch these so-called patients, they are able to call themselves a clinic. However, if you are not able to PAY for your new drug, they will boot ya to the side of the road just like your pusher when you cant afford your next fix. Honestly, how do they get away wtih this? This is replacing one dealer with another who is actually paid for by the taxpayer. COLD TURKEY, plain and simple…They took the chance on the drug, they can take the same chance on the withdrawal from them. Either one can easily cause death. Why should the rest of us be forced to pay for it. Cancer is a disease, Heart failure is a disease, MS, Systic Phybrosies, are all diseases…..Drug addiction is a CHOICE, not a disease or if you want to call it a disease then its one brought on by yourself. I smoke, and ya know what? If i get lung cancer, then i am pretty sure that i brought that on myself and if i cannot afford to get the treatment to heal me well then i wont expect any of you to either…ENOUGH…There have been enough education on drug addiction over the past 50 years that this is no longer a “But i didnt know what it was gonna do to me” thing…It’s a blatant disregard for life in general, and i would much rather see the money spent trying to heal kids with Cancer than adults that just dont have a clue.
Same people that are complaining about tax money paying for the clinics are the same people that will be complaining when a junkie grabs their purse and shoves down their kid trying to get money or something worth money for drugs, or whatever. If all anyone can do is put it down, and pass judgement, than why don’t we just euthanize all these people that are addicted and put their children in the already over taxed over worked foster care system… Why don’t we do that again? OH YEAH, ITS AMERICA! Its cheaper to pay for their methadone then it is to house their kid in foster care and pay for them to be in either jail or a mental health facility or a homeless shelter. Can anyone give a good answer to the whole ”methadone problem”? Just checking…
Sex crimes? Hmm. ADDICTED TO SEX TOO??? Some people have addictive personalities and they could be put on cough syrup with codeine in it for a week and come out of their bronchitis with an opiate addiction. The majority of people will not become addicted to the same cough medicine nor seek ‘treatment’ and claim the doctor made them an addict because they were given cough medicine to keep from coughing up a lung while extremely ill.
I’m so tired of people blaming everyone else for their own addictions. Anyone who can be paid travel expenses for trips to a methadone clinic daily, can also do something productive with their lives. I’d rather pay travel expenses for people who can’t afford gas and can’t make ends meet no matter how hard they try, in this economy, than have my tax money go to people constantly making excuses to not be productive. THESE ADDICTS CAN STILL GET THEIR DAILY METHADONE IF THEY HAVE A JOB. Even better, have them be required to do volunteer work to earn their treatment.
There’s got to be a large percentage of people who are on methadone maintenance that can hold a job, or do volunteer work. If someone’s given free drugs so they can live a law abiding life, why can’t they be productive and ween themselves into working so they can pay for this stuff on their own?
The part that burns my butt is that we pay more out in transportation than we do in the cost of the actual meds and visit fees. It was broken down in another article here, not too long ago.
Any addiction can be beat if there’s proper support and life coaching to enable them to be productive and have a life with a purpose other than getting high.
I feel for anyone who actually turns to illegal drugs to drown out some type of pain, whether it be from a heroin addiction or from a life of abuse. These people would be better served though if the mental illness side of things were tended to more intensely. Addiction is a mental illness type of thing. We can’t force seratonin type meds on people, but we can allow them to waste their lives by becoming more and more unhealthy, telling them it’s ok to not work, giving them a valid excuse with a legal high.
I’m sorry. These people deserve better than a pill daily anyway. I’d rather pay taxes to help them get over their ‘pains’ and get into the game of life, if even to be able to pay for their own legal high daily. Require them to put in the time to earn the treatment, volunteering somewhere.
Crapola …close it all down.
I don’t mind helping people, but there needs to be a strict time limit on methadone. Cut people off after 12 months. Hell, people quit smoking a lot faster than that and that’s supposed to be one of the hardest addictions to kick.
I have a habit. A BAD habit. It is called “horse fever”. I spent too much money, time and effort on horses, sometimes to the detriment of my family, and especially my finances. It is expensive. AND, I am risking my life every time I get up into the saddle. And sometimes others, as I often ride on the roads to get to dirt paths.
So, the point of this article, is that I would like the state to pay me for my dangerous and expensive habit, thank you. Why not? It is addictive, dangerous, sometimes deadly, expensive in a similar fashion to gambling. Why shouldn’t the state pay me, especially since they are paying drug usuers to continue their habits??????
Pretty simple, really. If you dont get to ride your horse you probably arnt going to lose your mind and become violent sociopath wereas drug addicts who dont get their methadone are liable to do any manor of insane acts. Your comparison isnt really relevant anyway because horse fever doesnt significantly change your neural chemistry.
What percentage of people use methadone for pain? For drug addiction?
and paid mileage to boot. Of course a clicinican would say it benefits them why would you look a gift horse in the mouth
Absolutely right. As far as I can see these “for profit” clinics are the only one’s benefiting from it, except of course the addicts that are getting their free fix.
Taxpayer aren’t going to save one penny, the government figures if we can pay that now , they might as well keep taxing us and give themselves a raise or build yet another new government building.
If Maine stops the funding then I guess they will have to move to another state or stop on their own expense. I seriously, believe all the figures are seriously flawed and that the state does not save any money, period. Feed the masses crap and some will believe it to be true. No one involved wants to lose the funding , when only the tax payer will benefit.
This seems like, “a bunch of hooey,” to some extent, only because everything I have ever read about prisons says it is easier to get drugs in prison than outside. I’m not talking about jails, but actual prisons.I’m not talking about short term stays in the country jail, but actual prisons where prisoners spend many years at the facility!And from what I’ve read, these criminals have all sorts of con games to fake urine tests.
AND BY THE WAY, WHAT IS THE COST TO PUT AN INMATE IN PRISON FOR SIX MONTHS TO DRY THEM OUT, when they are most likely to start using expensive, illegal drugs when they get out? And by comparison, what is the cost of 12 months of Methadone maintenance?
I’m guessing that putting someone in prison for a year is pretty expensive, and I’ve met many addicts who never stop, or what only are able to stop in the late 50s, when their health literally fails. I guess each individual is unique?So what is the real truth?If we keep making marijuana illegal and hard to get, and if we make METHADONE expensive or hard to get, WILL WE WIN THE DRUG WAR.?
We won in Vietnam, and Afghanistan, so maybe we can use the same technique? LOL
And not only did we win the War in Afghanistan, it is well known that they do not grow opium poppies there anymore, thanks to US military presence. LOL
PS I have a friendly acquaintance who lives south of Bangor, who keeps wanting to smoke pot with me. I refuse, because it’s illegal and I prefer my psychiatric medication, anyway.
PS If I want an occasional beer a few times a month, I buy Coronita beer in 7 ounce bottles at Sam’s Club or Hannaford.PS Anyone remember those small 8 ounce bottles of Rolling Rock that used to be sold in the 1960s? I gave a 7 ounce bottle of Coronita (same company as Corona) to an acquaintance in Danforth, and told him he’d never find a 7 ounce bottle of beer like that. He decided to keep it as a collector’s item, rather than drink it…LOLPS I have offered to go to Applebee’s to have a drink with my friendly acquaintance who wants to smoke pot with me, who lives far south of Bangor,, as one drink is OK for me, and LEGAL. But he, “doesn’t drink alcohol,” but instead smokes unfiltered, hand rolled cigarettes, and grows his own, personal marijuana out in the wilds of Maine (not a dealer as far as I know, but just personal plants)….LOL SO GO FIGURE PEOPLE OUT!….LOL. Personally, I think he enjoys the illegality of it all?PS DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK THERE IS SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THIS, “DRUG WAR TUNNEL?” PS The funniest joke I’ve read about Afghanistan is that the, “LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL COMES FROM THE CONTACTORS LIGHTS AS HE DIGS IT DEEPER!” If any of you are old enough to remember all that hooey about LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL that President Lyndon Baines Johnson used to give us, you’ll understand why I laughed so hard.
I wonder why, when so many here obviously know they have an effective, simple answer to our national drug problem, that we still have one? Because it isn’t simple folks. Maybe the problem is the result of our culture’s flight from personal responsibility.. doesn’t change the facts on the ground and it doesn’t mean we aren’t being held hostage to the problem. Want to make a difference? Go out in your community and help solve the problem Volunteer.. work with addicts and at-risk teens, help them build a positive view about themselves and the future. Shame and punishment don’t work.. the high recidivism rates prove that.
Work with the addicts? Try to improve the problem? Get to know people? Nah, its easier to whine about the druggies and the clinic via BDN comments. After all, addicts arnt people, dont you know?
There is no drug to help people that have an drinking problem, why is there a drug to help drug addicts? Even a smoker?
use the google
What do you do when you have a serial killer? Do you have a clinic where they can come in once a month so you can give them one bullet then once every two months, slowly weaning them off! Or a rapist, do have a clinic for them where you allow them to rape once a month then go to once every two months? Why not you do it for this scum and you’re bleed the tax payers dry! You people are the one’s who belong behind bars!
You know you sound like our next serial killer, right?
What I am is an honest man who worked 41 years for the same company with perfect attendance, has never had even a traffic violation, has raised a family he is proud of and one who hates drugs and excuses for using them! Your comment was way out of line and you really don’t deserve this explanation but after your comment I feel other people do!
You ever get seriously injured at work, Mr. Perfect American? You ever drink a coffee in the morn to pep you up? Your kids ever get injured playing in the yard and need a cast or major medical procedure? Your wife give birth “naturally”? You ever take an Asprin for a headache, or drink a glass of champagne at a wedding or kick back on the couch with a beer after a long days work? You ever smoked tobacco? You ever give your kids cough medicine when they were sick? If you did, you fed them drugs, derived from the same plant which Heroin comes from. I bet you have given them cough medicine. You were feeding your kids drugs. You should be ashamed. My point is, everyone uses drugs, for good and bad reasons. Dont kid yourself even for a minute. Life is surrounded by and a product of drugs. You “hate” drugs…… Guess you better hate America, then, because that’s why we are here. Drugs. Columbus was seeking an alternate route to Asia to get Opium for the Spanish crown when he crashed into the New World, subsequently discovering Tobacco which help fund the beginning of this country… and yet, you “hate” drugs. *sighs*
I’ve heard in the news about methadone being sold on the streets… is this common? If so, it would seem there are some cases where the person doesn’t need the medication, but uses it to get cash or other “goods”.
I know all about methadone and methadone clincs here in washington county,the people receaving this treatment have been stoped and arrested because after there treatmant they go to the local candy dealer and get other forms of medication so I have no use for methadone what so ever
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I personally do not agree with this. Methadone clinics??? Please get real. The only reason the clinicians are for it is because it is their job, it’s their paycheck; a way to make a living for these clinicians. Substance abuse is a personal choice to use….so they need to choose something else. Cold Turkey! No one said cold turkey would be easy but you cannot substitute one drug for another and think you are helping. Taxpayers pay for this from the git go. When they choose to use, and overdose, their ER visits are at the taxpayers expense, their on going medical care from using, is also at the taxpayers expense. Treatment is also at taxpayers expense, but at least if you eliminate the drug as part of the treatment and go cold turkey, it is less on the taxpayers. We need to stop listening to the “sympathy card”. I do not feel sorry for the druggies. You did this to yourself…so get off your “pity party” and do something positive for yourself and stop bleeding the taxpayers dry……LIVE A HEALTHY LIFE, but learn to pay your fair share. If I’ve offended the meth users, OH WELL, get over it. (us taxpayers are still trying to get over paying your addictions and your health care) It doesn’t take “meth” to get clean, it takes a different mind set.
That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it.
“Meth,” typically refers to methamphetamine, not methadone.
Thats like saying we don’t need prisons or drug laws because the only reason we have them is because the cops and prison guards need a paycheck . Get rid of them and save a buck, come on be real you don’t have to like it but they are a necessary evil .
Necessary evil ? I don’t think so. We need to wipe it out and to do so, will take cold turkey or moving to states that will treat and treat and not resolve the problem.
The demographics in and around Bangor have changed quite a bit the last few years. I believe we can all agree to that. The types of crime that are visible to the public are up also. Quite a few home invasions, car theft, robbery etc. all in the name of acquiring drugs, or committing violent crimes because of being under the influence of drugs. I’ve lived and worked in and around this city all my life of 51 years. I have never seen these problems as prevalent as they are today. We had some of these problems years ago, but I find it ironic that since Bangor has welcomed 3 methadone clinics, things have spiraled out of control. Just saying.
Clinics are not to blame. Its a little more complicated then that. Things change. The world isnt the same as when you were a whipper snapper.
How many of the people on Methadone have jobs?
How many are living off welfare, disability, etc. and using state funds to travel to and from the Methadone clinic every day, and then going home to sleep it off? All the while using their free cell phones, food stamps and free health care?
THAT is what irks me. I work hard and am tired of paying for others to legally take drugs.
Someone had to sponsor the Bill to make it law that allowed Methadone clinics into Maine in the first place. Who was that person?? Which elected official was it??
It is coroprate welfare period.. Think they will hang around if Maine stops paying the Bills.. No because they are in it for the money only, they need the head count to make their millons.
taxpayers shouldn’t be held hostage by the threat of a rise in crime if methadone is withheld. if addicts want to commit crimes to support their habit they should suffer the natural consequences of their behavior like everyone else.
They shouldnt be, indeed. But it costs a lot more to keep a person behind bars then it does to give them a bit of Methadone. And, you cant punish a drug addict like a normal person. It doesnt work. And, in this society and country, people dont suffer the natural consequences of their actions. Ever. Note how low the general IQ of the population is. Idiots are protected from themselves and non-idiots alike.
Alot of those “addicts” ARE tax payers themselves and some have to pay out of pocket. Why people dont do any research on this before running their mouth is beyond me. I actually didnt read the story I just wanted to see what some people had to say on this issue.
i have a friend that works at a clinic your statement is untrue a vast majority of these people are on mainecare .
Perhaps. But I know personally know many people who go to the clinic. Some work hard and have decent jobs. Others not so much. A good friend got into drugs rather bad and it almost cost him his wife, his kids and his job. Now he goes to the clinic once a day to get his dose. He goes to work all day after. Comes home and spends time with his family. That one dose is all it takes. Otherwise he’d be out on the street, buying drugs, furthering the crime problem, putting himself, his family and other people at risk. But because the clinic exists, he has really gotten back on “the right track”. If it wasnt for the clinic he’d have lost everything and probably still be on the pills. This is an obvious success story. Not everyone benefits from the clinc. Some people use it for the wrong purpose. But should we close it or condemn it because of “some people”? What about the people who really have good intentions? If anything there should be more control and supervision, not a dissemination of the clinic itself.
Show me where I said that no one on mainecare gets treatment?? I dont think that I did. Do you personally know any addicts? I do and I know quite a few that arent on mainecare and it is very expensive to go to a clinic without insurance. Also your friend has to be careful in what “information” she gives you and you repeat it she can get into alot of trouble with the privacy law.
This article is a horror story. That some people will need methadone for the rest of their lives is really scary. My never taking any kind of drugs, makes it hard to understand how the drugs just take over your life. Why some people start taking drugs so young, is also a reflexion on life within their families.
I really fear for all the young kids growing up now.
Seem to recall that these “treatment centers” are for-profit operations. And, it benefits them HOW? if people aren’t being treated? Substitute one addiction for another. Make them quit!
“Studies have found that patients with this chronic disease undergo a change in brain chemistry in which they are lacking free endorphins which, for many, means they likely will need medication throughout their lifetimes, she said.?
First of all, addiction is not a disease, never has been and never wil be. I am glad nobody told me that my brain chemistry had changed and I would need medication throughout my entire life. At this point, I have been clean for 35 years. And , Thank God, I was never put on methadone.
For the most part, the experts know nothing about addiction, neither what causes it or how to get over over it.
Ted Adamson
Author of “Up From Down- A true story of recovery”
http://www.upfromdown.info
Please, don’t forget that many of the individuals utilizing the clinics are from other states because we have allowed this to occur, and it has been an incredible drain on the MaineCare system. With that said, Methadone is supposed to be used to help an addict get through the temporary pain and discomfort associated with withdrawl so they can move toward recovery and a ‘normal life’. I completely agree with the 24-month cap (and it seems generous) as long as the proper supports are in place. But, I don’t necessarily support Methadone clinics. Primary MD’s should be monitoring progress along with Clinicians who have expereince with substance abuse. As a DINC (and Social Worker) who has been paying mega taxes for decades, I can completely relate to the frustration.
9 and ahalf years on methadone are you kidding me. do these clinics want people on methadone for life.
Yes. How else would they make money? Never money in cures for anything. Just treatment. Welcome to ‘Merica.
Here’s what I think: Until you have been chemically addicted to drugs, until you know what coming off of stuff is like, until you have seen what drugs do to some people, until you have known people who go to the clinic and until you have personally suffered due to the nature of drugs, I would be inclined to say that you cannot have an opinion. Until you have lived in that dark under belly of society, until you’ve seen your friends get addicted, your love interested get addicted, until youve watched your friends go to prison, until youve been so sick you cant leave your bed except to crap or puke, you cant have an opinion. Unless you have experienced the kind of torture that is addiction you cannot have an opinion. Id love to see all you holier then thou types get addicted to percocet, or heroin or benzo’s (which are the worst), then go cold turkey. Youd be dying for a few MG’s of Methadone. DYING. Dont assume you know what things are like until you have been there. I watched my whole life fall apart because of drugs (not due to me having issues with drugs, mind you, but someone else who i was… dedicated to) so I dont need to read this article nor many of these ignorant posts to know whats what. If you want to know about drugs and what they can do to people, the only way is to live it. Sitting behind your computers reading articles and listening to what they say on the news isnt going to tell you really anything and what you learn certainly isnt real knowledge. You need first hand experience, for that. Anyway, the clinics are a good idea that just doesnt work. I love it how so many people pretend to have an idea. Talk all you want, your words are empty.
Wow! over 5,000 per addict, just great!
Suppose thats better then keeping them on the street drugs, which typically ends up in jail, which costs the state and the tax payers (even though so little of your tax dollars go to either its absurd that people complain) more money in the end. Suppose then that the Methadone is a lot better of an option then letting them get their fix on their own (IE: robbery).
Methadone is not the answer nor should it be a permanent lifestyle – and at tax payer expense! It is called “job security” for those participating in the “system” of providers. Those at the clinic (not all) have a vast knowledge of how things “work” and they work it well – I applaud the individual who asks to be weaned off this drug. I can’t imagine how folks suffering with chronic pain are denied medications based on ability to pay but those who chronically break the law can get methadone (drugs) provided for them for life if they choose. And the crime rate, it’s a choice – and so is the addiction. You choose every day – hundreds of times a day – what you want to do with your life. Some choose to live at the expense of others.