WASHINGTON — A sharply divided U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare overhaul law that requires that most Americans get insurance by 2014 or pay a financial penalty.

“The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the court’s majority in the opinion.

“Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness,” he concluded. The vote was 5-4.

In another part of the decision and in a blow to the White House, a different majority on the court struck down the provision of the law that requires the states to dramatically expand the Medicaid health insurance program for the poor.

The upholding of the insurance purchase requirement, known as the “individual mandate,” was a major election-year victory for Obama, a historic ruling on the law that aimed to extend coverage to more than 30 million uninsured Americans.

“The court made the right decision in preserving the basic consumer protections in thehealth care reform law — like letting young people stay on their parents’ policies or preventing insurance companies from canceling your coverage when you get sick,” said Rep. Chellie Pingree, D-Maine. “The court did the right thing by ruling in favor of consumers instead of siding with the big insurance companies.”

Rep. Sharon Treat of Hallowell, who’s been closely involved with the issue, says it’s time to put aside politics and implement the law. That sentiment’s echoed by the consumer group Maine People’s Alliance.

Maine Attorney General William Schneider, who joined other states in challenging the law, plans to comment after he reviews the decision.

Maine is one of 26 states that sued to overturn the federal health reform law, challenging as unconstitutional the requirement that nearly all Americans purchase health insurance by 2014 or pay a penalty.

Many of the law’s major provisions take effect in 2014, including a requirement that states set up marketplaces for consumers and businesses to shop for health insurance. The so-called health insurance exchanges have been compared to websites like Travelocity and Orbitz, allowing people to compare health plans much like they do airfare or hotel bookings.

Fifteen states have already set up their exchanges. Maine is one of three states that has decided not to, following a move by Republicans in March to hit the brakes on a state exchange pending the Supreme Court ruling.

The 2010 law constituted the $2.6 trillion U.S. healthcare system’s biggest overhaul in nearly 50 years.

Critics of the law had said it meddles too much in the lives of individuals and in the business of the states.

Twenty-six of the 50 U.S. states and a small business trade group challenged the law in court. The Supreme Court in March heard three days of historic arguments over the law’s fate.

The court’s ruling on the law could figure prominently in the run-up to the Nov. 6 election in which Obama seeks a second four-year term against Republican challenger Mitt Romney, who opposed the law.

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    1. Dude, the Supreme Court has ruled it constitutional.  Roberts even supports it.  *I* don’t like that this was done but that’s the way it is and let’s move on.

      1. It all has to be so political these days, doesn’t it? Lost is the concept that this law may help millions of our fellow citizens get the care they so desperately need without having to sacrifice their financial security to do so. The means may have been a bit messy, but in the end this is a win for America, through and through. 

        And to BH, don’t you think a country with 50 million uninsured citizens should at least look into making some changes? If not, your priorities are completely out of whack.

        1.  So you like the fact that one party rammed this through on Christmas Eve, without a single vote from the other side?

          Hope you remember it when the shoe is on the other foot!

          And thanks for the 1.76 Trillion tax hike! Be sure to rejoice when you premiums rise!

      2.  Oh we will! SCOTUS has been wrong before, and will be wrong again. They may have just put the last nail int he obama reelection coffin, for all we know!

        But he has succeeded in fundamentally changing America, just as he threatened. Question is, will the Left like it when the shoe is on the other foot?

        1. That won’t be for a while.  Everyone still remembers the last time the Repubs were in charge!  If that doesn’t work, all they have to do is look at this State.  I just wonder if LePage is going to pay back our money he used to fight this.

        2. Yeah, I can see that.  I think the Citizens United decision that has allowed these Super Pacs to flourish and basically usurp campaign finance laws was wrong. 

          But you are forgetting that there are LOTS of things in this law that many people like, such as the pre-existing condition policy and insuring one’s children up to age 26.  I think that things among the general public will settle down.

          Remember, this is just a distraction from the REAL issue affecting the country!!!

          1.  Hope you’re sitting down, Joe.

            I agree (yes, I said agree!) with your assessment of the CU case! I also like the pre-existing condition policy. Kids to age 26 is a bit of a stretch (why not 25, or 30?) but I am willing to compromise on that.

            What I detest about obamacare are these;
            1. The way it was enacted. The Left made NO attempt to include the minority. obama said.”We won!” and that was that! The Left would be up in arms if the shoe would have been on the other foot, and rightfully so!
            2. The mandate. Even if SCOTUS labels it a tax and not a fine, it’s still a mandate. What’s next? What will the administration (this one or the next) decide we have to buy next, or be taxed if we don’t?

            That should scare the crap out of everyone, but the Left seems willing to ignore it because obama is in office and this is something they THINK they want. (I say THINK because no one has yet to read this abortion to know what is in it.)

            Will they ignore a mandate when the Republican are in control? I don’t think so!
             

          2. Okay, I hear you.  I don’t like the mandate either.  However, I think it should have been done like a real national healthcare plan, like in other countries.  I don’t mind AS MUCH being put into a governmental health care plan.  We are already paying taxes to support other social programs and I don’t see the public option as something different.  But yeah, I don’t like the mandate that the government tells us to buy a product whether we want it or not.  That’s not cool and it makes me wonder what, in the future, might we be forced to buy whether we want it or not.

            And again, some liberals cheer even as those evil corporations that run the healthcare industry profit.  It’s a topsy-turvey world!!!

        3. the right has been changing america for years, look at the 1956 republican platform and look at teh tax increase Reagan had

      3.  Joe You and I agree on some issues and disagree on others but this is not over. It will drive the national elections and debate for a long time. Any time a law is passed against the will of the majority a situation like this occurs.

    2. bh is typical , he has his but wants no one else to have a chance– I have fantastic medical insurance  and i’m not concerned. some convenietly ignore the fact that everytime an uninsured person get a treatment they don’t pay for, it causes people that have medical to pay more.
      ya know- some that do the most complaining would be the loudest criers if they got laid off or lost their medical for some reason.
      the sweetest sound heard is a conservative squealing  when they get screwed by the very thing they try to defend

    3. Amem to that!  Even though the insurance industry and Big Business tried their darndest to bribe the Justices, they did the right thing. Thank you, on behalf of my children’s children and their children. Justice Roberts, next time you come to Maine, I would like to buy a drink.

      1.  And others are motivated to get out the vote like never before! SCOTUS has awakened a sleeping giant. Better start running before you get stepped on! 2010 all over again!

        1. I wonder what you’ll do when the SCOTUS rules that bans on SSM are unconstitutional….

          1.  You may have mistaken some of my posts as being anti-SSM. I argue points, I try not to make final judgments on issues until I hear all sides.

            I may not agree with everything I read here (like wolfndeer’s ideological ramblings), but I try to read them and debate the issues.

            Since BDN is far left leaning, I always find lively debate. If your argument has merit, I listen. All too often, liberal arguments don’t. But I continue to hope!

            See, I really am an optimist!

        2. I guess this legal victory along with the decrease in unemployment and drop in gas prices (remember all the finger pointing at Obama for high prices?) is going to leave the right wing nuts looking for something to cry about.

  1. Yes. I’m sure the way forward will be messy, but there will be millions of people who now have health coverage who didn’t before.

    1.  Messy? You have no idea!

      And let’s not forget expensive! This law will, in all likelihood, bankrupt the country. But then, that was all part of the plan anyway.

        1.  You would have to ask obama. Everything he’s done to date has been to that end. Maybe it has something to do with his threat to ‘fundamentally change America’. Well, he succeeded! Government is now free to mandate anything they want. Enjoy the change.

          1. no, it has to do with right wing nuts that can only parrot lies from the extreme right wing pundits..

          2. And this just in: obamacare constitutes the largest tax increase in history! 1.76 trillion dollars!

            Well done! Well done indeed!

            My source? CNN! Or are thye the right wing nuts you speak of?

          3.  hahaha everything this country does on credit!

            All the tax receipts we collect pay the interest on the national debt!

          4.  And so it’s okay if obama finishes the job?
            Now That is an interesting perspective; If a republican screws things up, it’s okay if a democrat totally destroys it!

          5. Finish the job? Gotta let the guy start first.   Since day one not one single far right jabroni has given the man a chance or any ounce of support.

          6. Speaking of bankrupt. With Obamacare no one will go bankrupt because of medical bills. 

          7. You make this accusation that he wants to bankrupt the country but can’t back it up.

            How has these two Bush wars done to help bankrupt the country, I wonder….

          8.  Funny thing is that the total cost of two wars is less expensive than the healthcare act.

          9.  I expect premiums to go down. That is the whole point. That makes them more affordable.

          10. Yes.  I have read about other businesses that have done quite well-the total opposite from Solyndra but they are never mentioned.

          11. Yeah.  Sometimes those plans work and sometimes they don’t.  I’d rather the money go into more R&D and support more startups than to go to a war or two that we really don’t have any business starting.

          12. The total cost of caring for returning wounded troops is estimated to be approximately $3 trillion for their lifetime.
            On top of the war profiteers share, we’re starting to talk about some real money.

          13.  Ah, but it is responsible. It will cut the deficit significantly. Time we take responsibility for that.

          14.  Remember, Congress enacted this. They are the ones that have to be held responsible. President Obama just signed it into law. So that will be the test this November. Go back to what was not working very well except for the profit-takers or move forward to make the health care system more equitable from top to bottom.

      1. How so? Cause according to the CBO, repealing the law would add signification to the deficit.

          1. Exactly. It costs money, but not more money than we were going to spend in the first place. These people have hatred for the President and they’ll do anything, especially lie, in order to harm him.

          2.  Directly from the CBO! And they go on to say that 20 million will lose their employee health care before this is over. But that too was all part of the plan, the plan obama talked about to create a single payer system.

            But this is nothing new, you know this, you just choose to ignore it.

          3. Where are you getting your source? I have not seen one from the CBO that says that it will add trillions to the deficit. I have only read the opposite. 

          4.  its ok we can just print some more toilet paper… I mean dollars to pay for the debt!

          5.  Not in the long run. It will bring it down once all the pieces are in place and left to work the way they were intended.

      2. You are very short sighted!  You don’t think letting the hospitals go broke from treating the uninsured would be expensive? What is your alternative?

    2. How pays for the insurance if one can’t afford it.  I am not sure-it’s never been clear to me, how someone who can’t afford it in 2009 can suddenly buy it in 2010, or whenever that kicks in.

        1. We all pay for it now when the uninsured go to emergency rooms. Now those currently uninsured will be able to receive cheaper preventive care.

        1. Okay.  It’s so complicated and it’s hard to really know what the deal is….

  2. I think it’s awesome that we have a far-reaching law that absolutely nobody anywhere has ever read.

  3. Rather have single payer, however this decision will do. This is good news for the middle class and the poor. At least now they can receive health care.

    1. This may be good news for the poor – who are exempted from the Obamacare “tax” – but it is not good news for the ever-shrinking middle class that must pay for the whole scheme.

        1. Hey! Cheesecake! I told ya it was Constitutional!

          Our founding fathers Even Voted for a Health Care Mandate!——

          The Act for Sick and Disabled Seamen!

        2. Um, no.  The true class struggle is the 99% trying to keep the 1% from extracting all our wealth for their own sociopathic needs.  This SCOTUS ruling is a very small step in that direction.  

          1. I’m sure that is the division of society you see from your dialectic textbook. But modern America proves you wrong. The middle class is paying for the under class look at the tax burden.
            This is not over. My checkbook has been out this morning as has the checkbooks of many others.

          2. Oh Cheesecake, I’m sure all you Tea Partiers are breaking out something a little stronger than tea today. 

            Onward to November, when we get rid of the rest of the Party of Hate.

          3. By November the ACA will not be an issue for you. Obama will run away from mentioning it in his campaign ads except for select areas of the country.
            But it will be a campaign issue for most of America.
            Republicans will campaign against it in most ares of the country. People like Claire Mccaskill already nervous enough to not want to join Obama at his convention, are even more problematic for reelection because of this ruling.
            You folks really have no idea who the American people are up here in the liberal-left enclave known as Maine.

            One last thing, The Romney campaign just took in $1 million in the last 3 hours from small contributors.

          4.  I am sure he did. There are those who see any kind of progress as threatening.  I like what Justice Roberts said: “It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.” Whatever happens in November we will live with the consequences.

          5.  Come on now. Everyone with health insurance has been paying for all those that do not have it all along. We all know this. And, I would prefer that you keep your money out of my health care.

        3. the principle of it is just all wrong. for me since I graduated college 4 years ago it has been pay for a service you might never use OR save 300-400 a month to spend elsewhere. Now it is pay for a service you might never use OR we will just take the money from you by force anyhow and you will get nothing.

          I would prefer to opt out of every government run healthcare and retirement system and if I get hurt or old (hope that never happens) then it becomes my responsibility to take care of myself not everyone else.

          1. All insurance is paying for something you might never use.  I have been paying for car insurance for 35 years and renters insurance for 20 years  and never had to use either one once.  That is why it is called insurance.

          2.  exactly I have no problem with insurance and in certain cases such as renters insurance I will choose to use it. Car insurance I have a problem with it being compulsory but I would still probably use it. It the fact we are forced to maintain liability on vehicles is what I take issue with…

          3. If you hurt or kill someone with your car, won’t it make you feel better knowing you have liability insurance and that those you hurt will be compensated?  What kind of schmuck causes property damage and bodily injury, then walks away scott free?

          4. Exactly. And in the end it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

          5. You chose to buy both or in the case of the car you chose to own a car.  There is no choice in this horrible legislation.

          6. Yes because you CHOOSE to drive.  The only way you can analogize this to the mandate to buy health insurance is if you say it is because we CHOOSE to breathe. 
            Is that really what you are saying?  Mandatory health insurance to every breathing person is no where near the same as Manadatory car insurance for only those who choose to drive.  Now if you wish to make everyone pay car insurance even if they do not drive that would be the same as what is happening with Obamacare.

          7. Wrong, wrong, wrong.  Did I say you were wrong? I did not support the Iraqi war, yet my taxes helped fund this war. I have no children in school, yet the bulk of my property tax goes to education. I don’t smoke, but my tax dollars help keep sick smokers alive.  I have no choice but to contribute to causes and services I don’t support. That’s what mandatory healthcare is like.  Putting tax dollars toward a system that not everyone will benefit from, but is fair in the name of democracy.  The people voted for Obama knowing he was for single payer healthcare. I say now that we have this ruling, I hope Obama can get true single payer healthcare passed in his next term!

          8. No, the analogy is the same. We are required to carry it because of people who drive who do not. (Maine requires all automobile insurance policies written in the state to
            include “uninsured motorist” coverage. The owner of the policy is insured against bodily injury damages if they are in an accident with an uninsured driver.) We will be required to carry health insurance because of people who do not. We pay for the uninsured. We do that already. I think it is time they kick in.

          9. Yet again you are not comparing apples and apples.  What Obama is doing is requiring everyone to carry insurance just for breathing.  Requiring everyone to carry car insurance just for breathing hasn’t happened yet so you can not say they are the same.  You chose to drive.  That is why you pay insurance.  People can stop paying Obamas new huge tax on breathing by refusing to continue to breathe but that is the only way.  Whats next?  a $1 tax for every pound you are above the BMI?  All in the name of the greater good.  Any excuse to enslave us even deeper to Uncle.

          10.  I disagree. You just do not see my analogy. Which is the requirement to cover the uninsured. Which I do now in higher premiums because I do the responsible thing and carry health insurance.  Yes, the uninsured need to take responsibility for having health care available. I do not want to do that. I resent the extra amount I pay should the uninsured driver cause me bodily harm. I pay it every year even though I have never been injured by an uninsured driver. And, this penalty only applies to those who choose to not carry insurance. And, if you choose to engage in risky health habits yes maybe you should pay a bit more. That is what the cigarette tax is all about.  But I keep repeating myself. And you choose to repeat yourself. So enough of running circles around each other. You have your view. I have mine. And that is fine.

          11. Unless you’re a very different person than most of us on this planet, you’ll get sick and you’ll need insurance to cover your illness.Or perhaps you’ll join the 1% and not have to worry about losing everything you have to have a major illness taken care of.

          12.  I get sick but I don’t go to the hospital for it. I use practical and common medical knowledge to heal myself. I went for stitches for a cut on my thumb once in college and paid 250 outta pocket for the care. Maybe I am different… I know what doctors will say and do and know what I am at risk for and watch for those things but I do not go to the ER or hospital over every little thing. I go for a physical every 2 years for good measure and I pay out of pocket for it. 

          13. If you break your leg you’ll use common medical knowledge to set it?

            If you meningitis you’ll use common medical knowledge to cure yourself while in a coma?

            If you contract E Coli or other bacterial infections you’ll use common medical knowledge to cure yourself?

          14.  Well, I hope you never get hurt, but you will get old, at least I hope you will. You needed health care as a child. You will need health care as an adult. One could argue that you could self-insure. But would you? Could you? How much of your savings do you want to see eaten up by emergency room costs? Sure you could cover the cost of visit to the doctor for your annual check-up if you choose to get one. I rarely use the doctor. All of the premiums I paid and were paid by my employer took care of others, not me. Well, except when I had to have some skin cancer removed. You see, that is the whole point. And the point the justices made quite clear.

          15. You will use it some day.  You might avoid getting sick or hurt for awhile, but you will definitely get old.  Well, you could suddenly die and just be carted off.  But most likely, you will require medical care somewhere along the way.  When that time comes, you won’t just crawl off into the bushes to suffer and die quietly.  Maybe you are putting that 300 to 400 a month away in anticipation of those almost inevitable medical costs, but I doubt it.  So when you need money to pay for your care, who will pay for you? 

            The Who sang My Generation back in 1965, a song which included the lyrics, “…hope I die before I get old”.  Roger Daltrey is now 68, Peter Townsend is 67, John Entwhistle would be 67 if he hadn’t died ten years ago, and Keith Moon would be 65 if not for joining the All-Star Dead Band at age 32.  Entwhistle’s death apparently came from cocaine use, and Moon evidently took 32 sedative pills when the prescription was for one.  So in response to your comment, “… or old (hope that never happens)…”, I guess there is a moral in the story of The Who somewhere. 

      1. So I guess you have ruled out the upper class as not having to pay? I case you didn’t notice, we are all in this together!  This is the right thing to do.

          1. We know Republicans love their talking point slogans. You’re already parroting the proper ones for this matter. Good for you.

          2.  Yup, if you do not take care of your own health care costs then I want you taxed. I do not want to pay for your health care.

          3. Yeah, it is a tax, so what?  You want protections, education, good roads, safety, etc. you gotta pay a tax.  You don’t want or value those things, go live in another country and see how much complaining you do.

          4. And they didn’t “admit” is was a tax, anyway.  They chose to look at the penalty in regard to tax laws instead of commerce laws.

          5. I seem to remember that when this went before the Supreme Court, the first matter considered was whether this was about taxation.  If it had been deemed a tax, the case would have been dismissed because taxes had to be litigated after the tax had actually been imposed.  But the Supreme Court decided that it wasn’t a tax so the case could proceed.  Now Justice Roberts says that it is a tax.  It seems like this is an about-face.  Something is fishy here.

          6. Oh and the Democrats are sounding a different horn now, tax, tax, tax. Help the insurance companies to bigger profit, hurt the little man. Seems they always say that about the Republicans. Well I see the Socialist in office got his way.

          1. No, it will add accountability to people’s decisions; such as those who “can’t afford” health care, but can afford to buy cigarettes, booze, have an expensive cell phone with all the bells and whistles, get tattoos, buy the latest name brand clothing items, but funny, how they can’t ‘afford’ to take care of the most important thing in their lives.  I’m glad Sup. Court upheld it!

          2. Yes I am.  I know there are hard workers out there who need the assistance, but we’ve become a welfare state to the worse degree. 

          3. And the people that don’t  buy cigs, booze, have expensive cell phones, get tatoo’s, how about them? They get taxed just the same.

      2. With an increased risk pool and a profit margin cap — prices will slow for everyone. You might not have liked how it was done, but doing nothing at all was not sustainable.

        1. This might be correct for states like Maine (especially Maine with the age of the population) who already had guaranteed issue, community rating laws and the highest costs in the country. However, it is bad for states like Ohio or Virginia where you can currently purchase health insurance for a fraction of what we pay. However, I am doubtful that adding 30 million freeloaders and illegal aliens to the burden will increase the pool of those who pay for anything. We will end up paying more and have much less access to doctors – at least until Romney repeals it. 

          1. I think (R)money has to win, to try to repeal.  I love the way (R)money never says he has another plan, he is just going to go back to the crap we have now and take away all the insurance advantages such as kids staying on parents policy up until age 26, anyone with pre-existing problems able to obtain insurance, no limit on total spending.  Good old (R)money with the healthcare, I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT, I HATE IT.  What a flip flopped!  This guy can’t make up his mind.   
            Now here we go the Republicans will spend alot of time doing bull crap, repealing the AFHC  when they could be helping the country in creating jobs, right now they are playing politics with Eric Holder contempt vote when they should be voting on jobs bills and keeping the interest low on college loans.    This should bring Congress approval rating to an all time low, 1 maybe 2. 

          2. I wish I could take credit but I can’t, I saw it in an out of state paper and like you thought it was clever so I copied it.

          3. Why does it cost less for insurance in Virginia or Ohio than it does in Maine?  The top health insurance provider in each state is Anthem (http://health.usnews.com/health-plans/virginia).  If Anthem charges less for insurance in those states, you should ask Anthem why although I doubt if you could get a straight answer.  By the way,  Aetna is #2 in Maine, #4 in Ohio, and #9 in Virginia.  You would think that Republicans would like the insurance exchange so that Maine people could shop across state lines for a better deal.  But that is part of the Affordable Care Act, so that’s out. 

          1. Gee that would be a surprise as the insurance companies haven’t increased there premiums for years.  (Not)

      3. The answer to the ever shrinking middle class is to enact policy – such as this – that stops the upward siphoning of money that current policy facilitates.

      4.  It is my understanding that this approach will bring the costs down because you and I with our health care coverage will not be expected to pay for those who do not have it. The CBO says the plan will significantly decrease the deficit….. i.e., federal spending. What is not to like about that?

    2.  Good news? Maybe you missed the fact this is the biggest tax increase EVER. The middle class is going to be the biog looser in this one. Many of regulated employers ( 50 employes or more ) will drop the heath care they offer as it will be cheaper to pay the fine. Also the middle class will be footing a big part of the bill. That nobody who makes under 250k a year thing was a lie of epic proportion.

      Let this go into full effect then wait 10 years. when you have to wait 6 months to see a doc for a check up and there becomes a shortage of docs taking any form of gov insurance let me know how good it is for you.

        1.  I was one of the business owners. Given the two choices of those employing 50 or less to either pay the higher insurance rates  ( as they are going up allot in the near future) or pay the smaller fine many will choose the fine thus all those that where on that plan will have no insurance at all. Then they have two choices buy it themselves OR pay the fine. Again giving the fine is smaller then the cost of insurance most will go with the fine. Now giving all that and the fact that this law requires insurance companies to accept folks who have PREEXISTING conditions why would anyone buy expensive insurance until they really need it? This leads to insurance companies that had money in the coffer to pay out as all insured where paying in and not all required pay out’s. Thus the insurance companies ill go under. Also due to the issues with companies many doctors will increase the companies they accept. So please tell me how this helps? But hey you enjoy it. Wait 10 years and tel me how much you still like it.

          1.  Your correct. However the Mass plan is not the same thing. So I do not understand the point your trying to make.

      1. I don’t think $90 dollars is going to bankrupt anyone or be the “biggest tax increase EVER”.
        Take a deep breath and turn off faux news.

  4. Thank you Judge Roberts.  How can a republican appointed judge be wrong?  Obama just kicked the behind of every republican in the country.  How is that racism helping the republicans now?

      1.  The Republican experiment is over in November. Obama will be re-elected, Maine will de-claw LePage, and life will be good. I know this upsets you as you have been screaming about how unconstitutional Obamacare is, but now we know it is very Constitutional.

        1. Yes-it appears that deciding the constitutionality of an issue has nothing to do with the Supreme Court and everything to do with what certain pundits and politicians say about it.

          I don’t like the ruling on the individual mandate aspect, but it’s the decision that’s been made.  It IS constitutional.

        2. Ha ha! This ruling just sealed the fate of modern liberalism. Children will read about this in the history books as the worst administration ever. Deep down, Obama wanted the mandate to be repealed so he could blame it as the reason for the increased costs. Now he will have to defend the largest tax increase in history while the economy plummets.

          1. obamacare constitutes the largest tax increase in history! 1.76 trillion dollars!

            But hey, the Left never met a tax it didn’t love! They should REALLY love this one, 1.76 Trillion dollars worth!

        3.  Yes, and they called the mandate what it really is – A TAX! Thank you for yet another tax. We sure needed another one. Lord knows the only way to prosperity is to tax the peasants to death!

          As for the rest of your comment, we will see come November. obama may very well get reelected (there are plenty of idiots out there), but then what?How will you survive after that? Or does he plan to run for a third term, or fourth?

          How will you EVER survive without your beloved obama?

          1.  Sure it’s a tax, that’s how it was Constitutional, just like FDR didn’t sell England “Warships” at the outbreak of the war, he sold them “Freighters.” Just like Korea wasn’t a war, it was a Police Action. Still a loophole is better than the outright lies of the “WMD’s” that brought us into an unnecessary war the cost us how much in money and lives of good soldiers?

          2. But we do need new taxes, we have just gone through two wars completely unpaid for. The wars are way more costly then ACA. 

      2. In November Lepage will lose his majority and the liberal Romney will lose his election.
        Obama recieved over 2 million in contributions today.

          1. Republicans are imploding today.  Even Romney almost fell off his horse while working his dressage routine this morning.  Who cares if Obama wins, it is just a blast watching the Fox news cast come unhinged along with the dopes who support them.    

          1. Sorry, the 2 million was only 3 hours after the announcement, Obama went over 5.5 million for the day.  Oops, you lose.

    1. I expect that if he had voted the other way your argument would have been he is a Republican hack politician. Am I wrong?

        1. Here come the “wrong side of history” argument again. You do know that is the favorite phrase of many authoritarians including Stalin Hitler Pol Pot & Mao to describe their opponents?

    1.  A HUGE part! Too bad so many are blind to that fact. They sure wouldn’t be if the parties had been reversed!

      What will the Government dictate next? Will the Left like it?

      1.  Going to a hospital isn’t healthy either. According to easily available statistics nearly 200k people die annually (reliable statistics)  from Hospital mistakes. Less than 30k die annually from lack of healthcare according to liberal activists with marginal data.

        1. Oh my god. Your hyperpartisanship has reached new levels. Are you really arguing against visiting the hospital? How many would die if they never went to the hospital at all?

          1. Less than 30k die annually from lack of healthcare according to liberal activists with marginal data.

            Leave me alone.

          2.  I was just pointing out how bogus that argument was. It went over some peoples heads.

          3. Cheesey. In your opinion is it okay for those 30k to die simply because they had no healthcare?

          4.   I was just pointing out how bogus that argument was. It went over some peoples heads.

    2.  America has been dead for a long time. hopefully people will start waking up to this and we can move forward

    3. “A big part of America died today.”

      Yeah, the part of America in which people were bankrupted by chronic maladies and routinely suffered terribly or even died from easily preventable illnesses because they couldn’t afford to go see a doctor.

      That was indeed a big part of America, and while it hasn’t died yet, there’s a death warrant in it’s name and the plan of attack against it has been declared legit. Let’s cheer its impending death, slaughter it, drive a stake through it’s heart and burn its fetid corpse.

  5. Today proves it! “I am here from the federal government and I am here to help”  because you can’t do it on you own.

      1.  And Obama’s health care will save them. like I said “I am from the Govt. I am here to help you” never ends well. I will use Social security and our present day Medicare as perfect examples.

    1.  I am no legal scholar by any means, but the Supreme Court, I thought, was the last stop. I don’t think you can appeal a Supreme Court decision. They may be able to find another part of the law to bring before the Justices, but the mandate has been deemed Constitutional, therefore there is no appeal to that.

      1. Understood; I was referrring to AG Schneider’s’ decision to join with 20+ states that brought the appeal to the Supreme Court in the first place.

      2. The only thing to trump a Supreme Court decision is a Constitutional Amendment, not likely in this case.

  6. “but there will be millions of people who now have health coverage who didn’t before. ”

    …and where will this money to pay for all this needed health care come from????…….Guess hard working men and women will expect less “take home” pay in their paycheck….God Bless America…..I think it’s still legal to say that…isn’t it??

      1. very true….very true indeed……

        now I am wondering how many insurance companies will lower their premiums to make it more affordable??…..not where I am working….just got word last week there will be a premium hike by January….

        also…now this has passed…and is now “legal”   …does this mean we have to buy insurance for all the illegal immigrants??….how many millions of those make up the 30 million???

      2. How do you think this Bill will provide it for them???  They will have to buy it themselves, which will make it impossibile to pay their house payments or buy food.. Do you know where the Government gets it’s money??? I don’t suppose you do… Small businesses will close because unlike wal-mart they didn’t get an exemption

  7. On the bright side, obama has proven that political parties are now free to ram through legislation that no one like, all based solely on political ideology. 

    Surely those on the Left will go along when we once again have a Republican President and Congress! After all, if it works for the Left, it works for the Right, too!

    1. Speak for yourself!  I like it and so do a lot of others.  There’s going to be people in Maine who will now have insurance that never have.

  8. There is no mandate to buy insurance.

    They will simply tax you if you don’t have it…..

    1.  And what’s next? What will a Republican Government decide to tax you on if you don’t buy it? Are you ready for that? Will you agree to that???

      I think not!

      1. Dude.  Read what I am writing.

        I do NOT agree with the individual mandate.  I have said that all along.  I have just repeated the decision in a nutshell.

      1. Really?  Where does it say that?

        They might go through the process of putting a freeze on your account and take the money if you don’t pay that tax like any other, but I am not sure they can just TAKE it.

        1. So the 2,000 new IRS agents being hired to enforce the Obamacare penalties can’t reduce your tax refund; garnish your wages; attach your property; lien your house or take any of the many other enforcement steps the Internal Revenue Code provides for unpaid income taxes?  Really?  Where in the Obamacare legislation does the statute strip the new IRS agents of these powers?

  9. Looks like the Right isn’t all that right, two decisions in a row now which favor reason instead of ideological nonsense. It’s a black black day for the haters. Thank you Justice Roberts.

    1. The term “ideological nonsense” is more properly applied to Obama’s defense of this legislation as part of Congress’ authority to “regulate” commerce; that the “penalty” was not in fact a “tax”.  I don’t like the Court’s final decision, but I am glad to see that the Court’s opinion rejected outright that specious argument and instead called a spade a spade, so to speak.  Obamacare’s “penalty” is a tax, pure and simple.  The legislation contains literally dozens of new taxes, including a new 2% payroll tax if I recall correctly.  As if the 25% of U.S. gross domestic product already being spent by this administration was not more than enough.

      1. The bottom line is the Right has been peddling their rotten meat about HealthCare since before Obama put it in place and now their “ideological nonsense” has been “Tried and found wanting” by the highest court in the land. Time to fly your snake flag somewhere else.  

        1. You Divide and conquer. next he will come and split his supporters. it is sad the compromised Roberts

          1. Roberts is only trying to save his legacy, he’s got other wingnut Justices who want to turn this country into a 1930 Germany. You right not to trust him, I may have thanked him but I sure as hell don’t trust him.

            We truly need to impeach 5 of them.

  10. I wholly agree with this other decision”
    LATimes.com- The U.S. Supreme Court today struck down the federal Stolen Valor Act, which made it a crime to lie about receiving military medals.
    By a 6-3 decision, the high court said the right to lie about medals and military service, while unattractive, is protected by the 1st Amendment.

  11. Congratulations, Obama. The Supreme Court just ruled that you have passed the biggest tax increase in the history of the world. Now, will you stop telling us that you have not raised our taxes?

    Now, about all those unions and friends who you exempted from this law and these taxes…..

      1.  VERY TRUE! obamacare constitutes the largest tax increase in history! 1.76 trillion dollars!

        Like it or not, it’s the fact! Deny all you want, it’s still a tax, and SCOTUS affirmed it!

      1. Exactly. And what is Obama’s talking point now? “See, it’s constitutional because it is a giant tax. Now do you like it?” He would have been able to make a better argument had it been repealed. So much for all those “Corrupt SCOTUS” bumper stickers he had made.

  12. We are screwed. Now we will have a system like the UK and Canada. The rich will go to other countries and get great care. The rest of will wait in line and hope our care is approved by the Department of Health.

    1. not true. the rich go for elective surgery — talk and lsiten to people actually with canadien health care

    2. Exactly… that and what employers are left in the country will dump their folks on to the Fed program. The Federal Government and States will have to start providing large “body shops” run by Bahamian medical school grads to accomodate the large influx of individuals. Qualified doctors, (Harvard, Columbia ) and RN’s will not sign on to work at these body shop’s with their government set rates and simply work under the table in a cash /barter arrangement for the people with means or the ability to pay. We will quickly see a third world system develop at these Federal/State run institutions.

  13. According to polling over the last year or so one third of small business have said they plan on dropping insurance for their employees.  Get ready for a big tax bill even if a small percentage of those make good on their statement.

  14. My pre-existing @~s is dancing with joy!  I may live another 30 years because I will not be denied coverage! My child will grow up with his mother! I know there are a lot of you who are furious, but for every one you, there’s one of me.  And I am CELEBRATING!

      1. Knowing she has access to healthcare and won’t be denied for having a pre-existing conditions probably does make her feel much better. Sounds more than “okay” to me!

        1. Doesn’t change the facts that most polls clearly show MOST Americans are against obamacare – and even more are against the way the Dems rammed it through.

          I can’t wait until the Republicans ram something they want through! See how YOU like it!

          1. Funny, according to the poll here on BDN, the approval rating is at 60% at the time of my writing here. Now, of course, I’ll be the first to admit that it’s not a scientific poll… but I would think that if “the vast majority” didn’t like it, that number would be far different.

          2. In national polls even a majority of republicans favor Obamacare when they know what’s in it.

          3.  Your point is the whole point. Few know what is in it. Taken item by item most decent people would say “Sure, I go along with that”. Unfortunately most are swayed by sound-bites.

          4.  Wrong, most polls show America divided 50/50 on the issue, now I know Lepage-rs think 38% is a majority and a mandate, but is simply isn’t true

      2. The BND Poll numbers currently reflect there are actually 1.78 of me per every you.  But if you want to deny that to make you feel better about yourself, then okay. 

          1. My pre-existing condition is physical, not mental.  Scroll up and look.  Look with your healthy eyes. And yes, the numbers have changed. My comment stated “current” numbers…now they show 1.42 of me to every one of you.

    1. Maine Insurance laws do not allow denial because of a preexisting condition.  That is one reason we have so few health insurance companies to choose from.  Unless you are not from Maine you are cheering for nothing.

      1. Unless the laws have been rewritten within the last four years, that is incorrect as I can attest to first hand experiences with claims denied for a pre-existing rider.  Another aspect worth cheering about is the lifetime maximum benefits problem that will no longer be an issue.  Hip Hip Hooray!!

    1. No offense intended,  but I suspect people who think like you do need to be, or would like to be, taken care of… it’s not your fault however… for whatever reason you do not have the confidence in yourselves or the desire to stand on your own and take care of yourselves – thus you are susceptible to socialism’s call and choose it over freedom and liberty.

      1.  That is such BS…I suspect that most Americans want to go to work everyday (Too bad this country has closed over 10,000 factories). I also suspect that if given a living wage that most Americans would have no problems paying their fair share in taxes. I also suspect that most Americans are willing to help those less fortunate than themselves, are you aware that sometimes bad things happen to good people?? Yes there are welfare cheats and deadbeats but it’s not the majority….. 

  15. The best way to pay for this is to get rid of the Earned Income Tax Credit.  That has to be the biggest joke ever.  Somebody pays in next to nothing if anything and just because they have too many children they can get a refund check of 4 to 6 thousand.  That is wrong.

    1. Funny, Republicans hate the earned income tax credit but Reagan expanded it, as well as others afterwards

    1. forced into a watered down health care  product.. Be proud because you will for certain be paying for mine. after my last contract is complete, I’m retiring and laying of a dozen.. Be Proud..

  16. Your socialist utopia has arrived… congratulations. Now begins the death spiral for producers in this country – both corporations and individuals. We are now a socialist country and I suspect we will share the same fate as Europe. Add mandatory health care to: Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Food Stamps, WIC, LIHEAP etc. etc. etc. There simply will not be enough producers to take from to keep these programs afloat. Short of a BIG change in Novemeber, there is no doubt in my mind that our system will  collapse…it is  just a case of when.

      1. Yeah I get that from my partner all the time…. so which parts of my post would you like to quibble with me  about? SS? Europe? Dependency in America? Federal Deficit? Across the board tax increases the first of the year? Over in Europe Greece had an entitlement society… how are they doing now? Spanish bond rates are over 7% signaling a collapse! Italy no far behind! U.S deficit heading to 20 Trillion! In the U.S we have a tepid recovery at best with little growth… how do we fund these programs without growth in the economy? Let’s not only tax the rich more… let’s confiscate all that they own… won’t even take care of this years projected deficit.

      2. You don’t seemed to know what happened. yet you seem comfortable with it.. Obama is following the same steps that Hitler took.  with consent of the governered.  I’m sure your school didn’t teach history.

    1. I’ll take Socialism any day over the fascist BS the rightwing ditto heads are trying to peddle as their idea of what is constititional. Of course we can expect the world to come to an end because your delusional ideas got dropped like a bad habit, and if it doesn’t I’m sure your crowd will do their best to try to end it.

      1. Hey Barst… if you would get out of your mom’s basement and or get a job you have a future as a fiction writer that was good stuff.
         Hey BTW how much did you pay in federal taxes last year? I paid 28K just to the Fed’s how about you? In your opinion did I do my share to take care of the downtrodden or would you like for me to pay more?

    2. It’s hard for the mouth foamers to except the truth. They will when their comfort level is affected

      1. Wrong. That number refers to 10 years. It also doesn’t account for what we would have been spending if there had been no action.

  17. What we need now is to force the president and congress to live under these same rules. If it good enough for the country it should be good enough for them, but guess what……

  18. Now only in America you will have to prove you have health insurance but not that you are a US citizen. 

    1. Only U.S. citizens are required to buy health insurance.  Obamacare specifically exempts “persons not lawfully present in the United States” (= illegal aliens).  So 30 million illegal immigrants will continue to get “free” emergency room care at the expense of taxpaying citizens, without  being subject to Obamacare’s penalties for failing to purchase their own insurance policies.

      Tell us again how Obamacare will address the “free” emergency care problem? 

  19. I agree that this is a good way to go (most anything should be an improvement over what is in place now) but do hope there is a provision that revenue generated from the “tax” must be used as as an offset to cover costs from the high-risk pools and preexisting-condition cases. Be interesting to see what happens to insurance rates over the next few years.  

  20. So if you make $50k per year the Obamacare tax on you if you don’t buy health insurance will be $1250 in 2016(2.5% of income). 

    1. I wish I could buy health insurance for my wife and I for that. and I have a great work provided medical

      1. If you are employed by a company that has fewer than 50 employees your HR department may be considering dropping your insurance in it entirety. 2014 will be the year.

        1. Exactly…. the “great dump” into the Federal programs will begin in earnest. Get in line at the State run hospital and enjoy the great service that I’m sure you will enjoy there!

          1. yes except for 300 millon people LOL.. and 40 millon illegals LOL… go smoke some weed you won’t need a doctor

  21. Ah!!! We are witnessing History… This is not the begining of the end.. This is the end of the constitution my friends.. The clairafication that we elect rulers instead of representitives has been exposed.
    the followers who help create the demise of this one great nation are laughing today thinking they are exempt.

          1. Don’t listen to them, they are vile .. I listen to the pulse and I am a teaparty repub.. they don’t pander to politicans like vom just to get worthless air time… Has ric and George ever asked a hard ball question to any politican?? No. they only comfirm what the newsprints already said.

      1. If you follow history and see what happened to other countries that let their government babysit them, then you’ll know…. With the consent of the Governered this country will fall… Soon kevin they will come after your comfort zone and you won’t laugh then.

      1. I don’t listen to right wing radio. I listen to the Pulse radio, I’m thinking Glenn Beck has mental issues

  22. I can’t understand why republicans are so upset with the individual mandate.

    It was first proposed by the conservative Heritage Foundation and supported by scads of republicans during the Clinton administration.

    Rmoney implemented it in Mass. as part of his healthcare reform.

    So, why all the drama and wailing and gnashing of teeth and renting of garments etc. by the Right Wing?

    It was their idea all along.

    Yessah

    1. Their hate for Obama overrides their principles. The mandate may have been their idea, but they saw it as an opportunity to attack the President.

      1. And you love, devotion, worship (choose one) of obama has blinded you from reality!

        You like the mandate because it is part of an obama law. It wouldn’t matter what the law was, if obama rammed it through, it’s automatically good.

        I hope you appreciate this when the Republicans ram something through you hate, but have to buy or be taxed! remember, YOU supported the residence!

    2.  They are upset because Rush, Glen, and Fox are upset…These righties are nothing but lemmings..

  23. A mandatory tax if I don’t spend my money on Health Insurance…and people think this will make America Healthier and will make costs go down?  If I am forced to pay for insurance won’t I feel intitled to consume?  Another layer of intitlement tis all this will amount to. 

    The middle class has insurance for the most part because they can not afford to risk a large medical bill due to the fact they have some assets.  The poor are already covered by the tax dollar.  And the rich well they make all sorts of choices, including self-insurance, high deductable, etc. 

    So who will this hurt?  Those too poor to afford a quality plan (one that pays for anything) but to economically well off to qualify for medicaid.  In Maine we have pretty liberal quidelines on this, meaning a family can make over 40k in many instances and still qualify for MaineCare, hence the 1 in 3 Maine adults on Mainecare. 

    Young people trying to take a chance and put the several thousand in savings into purchasing a home, paying down education debt or starting a nest egg will be required to purchase a policy.  Unless of course Mommy or Daddy can continue to cover them on the family plan — which will cost more due to increasing numbers on the roles.  

    The bottom line is Healthcare is only going to cost more and more this is just a political smoke screen and only accomplishes the task of shuffling who pays.

    1. You were “intitled” (sic) to a public education – an “intitlement” (sic) that a lot of people don’t want to pay taxes to support.

      Should those people be allowed NOT to contribute to public education?

      Do you know how many Mainers pay for their crushing medical bills?

      A donation jar in the country store.

      A public supper in a community hall.

      It’s disgusting.

      We are not “OK” with medical care in this country.

      Yessah

      1. yea and the demcrats don’t like new taxes. I never said I cared for Romney, but their is no other choice this year.

  24. CBO admits that 20 million will lose their employer health care. Thank you so much obama!
    From posts here, it’s clear the Left want to tax the poor, because that’s what obamacare does. Enjoy those increased premiums, boys!

  25. So here’s the lesson.  If you agree with this ruling and like Obamacare, then vote for Obama in November.  If, however, you disagree with Obamacare & the ruling, then vote for Romney and be sure to vote to place Republicans in the senate & house of representatives. It is the ONLY way to rid ourselves of this mandate.

  26. Well, well, well, Olympia Snowe is crying about the vote right now, she is talking about how nobody knows how much the health insurance people will be forced to buy…will cost. Remember, the penalty connected to this if you fail to buy health insurance is tied to the IRS. Oh won’t this be fun. She voted for this before she voted against it. Nothing like a new giant tax on people who can hardly afford it.

    1. It’s good you realize this, and who else did he put on the bench? … Much fault is to be placed on the head of that bumbler.

  27. You Win!!!! I’m going on welfare.. I hope you libs like paying for this republicans health care/ food stamps/ssdi etc.etc…… I will use it for all it’s worth. Thanks (-;

    1. Not a bad idea… In a weird way, I hope this law stands and the  Bush tax cuts expire at the end of the year. Heck, we don’t have to use Europe as an example… just look at Stockton California they are  BANKRUPT. Stockton California bankruptcies will pop up all over this country.

      What I really love to see happen is for “evil” corporations/companies start to fold up their tents and stop producing things. Watch these crybabies go to the stores and there is nothing on the shelves.

  28. About time, we’re tired of subsidizing the freeloaders who get charity care which increases the cost of services which increases our premiums.Insure everyone.

  29. The health care issue isn’t left or right. Everyone needs health care at some time in their life.

  30. Now that healthcare is taken care of, lets all live in government housing.. OK?? except for the politicians and Wal_Mart stock holders.

  31. Great, now we can be taxed for not doing anything!  Next we’ll have to pay a sales tax for not buying anything. But Maine actually was in the forefront- we already have to pay tax on the “sticker price” on a car, NOT on what we actually paid for it.

  32. Chief Justice Roberts actually did the Conservatives a favor by voting for it and calling it a tax….There was a method to his madness….

    1. So he wasn’t doing his job as a Supreme Court justice, rather this was all part of a scheme to ensure Romney’s victory?

      1. Dont know about a Mitt Romney victory.Might be close. This does add another tax to the people who cant afford it, not the peope that have health insurance through work….. But it has a chance of getting repealed.. Only going to take 51% vote against….And there are some Democrats against it… I would like to see a tricare type med insurance so everyone can get some coverage.

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