You may have heard of a recent tussle between two of Maine’s political leaders: Republican Gov. Paul LePage and Democratic U.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree. Pingree provoked such an uproar from LePage about the legality of Medicaid cuts that it may have been hard for people to discern what the matter was really all about: power.
Their clash was not just about Medicaid but about Pingree going over LePage’s head. In short, she undermined his authority. Courtesy and tradition in Maine call for the parties to talk to each other before acting this way, though her point was correct. Pingree should continue working to ensure that Maine abides by the Affordable Care Act and should correct LePage and Republican (or Democratic) lawmakers when they spread misinformation about the law.
Some history: Legislators knew when they passed a supplemental budget this May that they might not be able to make the Medicaid cuts they wanted. They knew that federal law prohibits states from reducing Medicaid programs to balance the budget.
But they passed a budget that included the questionable cuts anyway and said they would apply for a waiver from the Affordable Care Act, even though the director of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said waiver requests were unlikely to be approved. The law contains a “maintenance of effort” provision that requires states to maintain their current Medicaid coverage levels until 2014 when an expansion of the Medicaid program is supposed to take effect.
Now, however, the LePage administration is planning to take another route and apply to the federal Medicare and Medicaid centers for an amendment to Maine’s Medicaid State Plan in order to get the approximately $10 million in cuts. That route still requires federal approval, but it is more routine than getting a waiver from the health care law.
LePage was clearly angry when Pingree — without alerting him — wrote to U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on July 9 to say that the proposed elimination of Medicaid coverage would “be in direct violation of the (maintenance of effort) requirement, even in the wake of the Supreme Court’s ruling.”
Instead of stating reasonably why he thought he was correct, LePage shot back that Pingree is “part of big bloated government” and is “now saying that Maine should be forced to increase the burden to the taxpayers she claims to represent.” The belittling immediately changed the subject. Just as he did by referring to the IRS as the Gestapo, LePage’s outburst drove attention away from the facts of the health care law.
One such fact is that health reform could be beneficial to the nation if states do their job. For instance, adopting the health reform law’s Medicaid expansion to cover low-income parents and other adults is not expected to be a huge cost driver for states. That’s because the federal government will pick up 100 percent of the cost of covering people made newly eligible for Medicaid for the first three years (2014-2016) and no less than 90 percent from then on. The small increase in future state Medicaid costs is estimated to be offset by less uncompensated care being provided to the uninsured.
In his July 11 letter to Pingree, LePage ranted “that you have become part of the jet-setting Washington culture that keeps people dependent on government handouts.” He called her letter to Sebelius “careless” and added it was “astounding that you would actively advocate for the Federal Government to overrule Maine’s decisions.” Nowhere did he explain his legal argument for why the cuts should be allowed or provide proof of how the health care law would hurt Maine.
A revealing part of the letter to Pingree is near the end, when he explains how he will write to Sebelius to ask her to apply the law fairly in granting an amendment, so the state can make the Medicaid cuts. “We will certainly copy you on that letter, despite the fact it is a courtesy you have not extended to us,” LePage wrote to Pingree.
This quarrel is not just about Medicaid but about Pingree not going to LePage first to work with him. Then the question becomes: Would LePage have worked with her?
In the end, Sebelius’ interpretation of the ruling, as explained in a letter to governors, lines up with Pingree’s: The Supreme Court decided that states could not be penalized for not expanding Medicaid, but the court’s decision did not reverse a part of the law that prohibits states from cutting back existing Medicaid services.
Pingree, for her part, replied to LePage in a measured tone. “The health care reform law was debated and passed by Congress, signed by the President and upheld by the Supreme Court. It’s time to stop fighting about the health care law and start following it,” she said.
We couldn’t agree more.



Pingree makes the arguement that the ACA has been thru ‘the mill’ as far as the legislative and judicial review process’s goes. Given that, and the financial provision’s that the ACA makes as far as REDUCING medical care cost’s over the long term, it almost you makes you wonder just what actual, physical objection’s LePage has to providing better and more affordable health care for all Mainer’s other than some vague political objection based on a boogeyman scenario. Is he all that cranky that Pingree agreed with the DHHS that he is taking his frustration’s out in public just because he doesn’t want to try to work out some kind of solution ? Apparently the DHHS doesn’t have a problem with what Pingree is asking so the question again arises just what is LePage’s actual, factual, objective problem with the ACA when it’s in the best interests of all Mainer’s for the Act to be put into action ?
If this comes down to a ‘too many cup’s of coffee’ fight, everyone’s gonna want a 50 yard line seat to see how this one play’s out. And since the ACA has already gone thru the process it might be a real good idea for the Governor to really think if this is a fight he really want’s to get into before he winds up in over his head, and other body part’s, and get’s Maine hauled into a Federal jurisdictional lawsuit that has already been tried and judged back in the 1800’s. It also makes me wonder just where the AG’s Office is in all of this since the ACA has already been thru the ‘mill’, heard and adjudicated by the DC 9 and is now the Law of the Land. Now if Congress wants to repeal it, fine. Then they have the process, that we all now, to do so and are free to make a run at it. But until then it’s high time that the GOP, and their ‘Me, Me and only Me’ crowd quit crying and throwing hissy-fit’s and get on with working toward getting the Country’s economy back on track. For those who have served, remember. “Work with what you’ve got and quit crying about what you haven’t got”. It’s time that LePage and Company started to work and quit crying about what they don’t like. In short, get over it and move on . Maine deserves more and better. Pingree is showing that. Now it’s time for everyone else to step up and make their decision known………
Personally, I don’t belive anyone knows what the ACA means for our Country. That goes for both sides from what I see. I have not yet formed an opinion, for all I hear is rhetoric from all involved. Just when are clear and concise steps going to be given? So far all I’ve seen are two wings of the same vulture.
Very well stated. I see this as a complete lack of sportsmanship. In the UK, there is the concept of the “loyal opposition.” One party wins, one loses. The losing party then works with the winning party to achieve the goals set forth, reserving the right to object and to suggest alternatives. But, at the end of the day, the goal is to move the country forward.
Since, I would say, the past 25 years, I have seen an increasing split between the parties with no one willing to cross the aisle to work together. This is counterproductive and simply embarrassing. What once was “the world’s great deliberative body” is now little more than a 5th grade playground fight. Where are the statesmen, the diplomats, and the intellectuals, schooled in diplomacy, manners, and tact?
Can you imagine 30 years ago having LePage, Perry, Bachmann, O’Donnell, Palin, Santorum, and people of this ilk at the level of power they are today? How could anyone compare these people to Margaret Chase Smith, Ed Muskie, John Reed, Bill Cohen, George Mitchell, or any of a number of well-known Mainers? Where has the quality gone?
I think some mandatory courses in etiquette, manners, diplomacy, debate, and tact, are in order. Yesterday, we had gentlemen and gentlewoman. Today, we have boors.
Lepage is the elected(38%) head of the Maine Tea Party(Heritage,Koch,etc.) and as such he has to vocalize their anger(keep their base exited within their worldview) with all things democratic.
To do otherwise would be interpreted by the right wing base as not being true to “never compromise”.
He is now seen as being bullied by the left(moderates to most people) for stating what most tea partiers believe.
Lepage’s handlers feel this will be a rallying call to the base and a face saving move by him.
It seems today’s politicians learned their conflict resolutions skills from Reality TV, and sadly, the American public concurs that acting like contestants on one of these shows is acceptable behavior. I guess “Lord of the Flies” is no longer mandatory reading for 7th grade English. I see no difference.
You seem to be unaware of much of 19th century political history. It was much more bare-knuckled and vituperative than today. Today is nothing compared to then. The current hissy fits we hear are predominantly from the left when they cannot get their way, basically throwing tantrums by leftists who just cannot handle the fact that there are many people who simply do not agree with their Euro-style big government social-engineering liberal ideology.
Gee, sounds like you’ve just been drinking up the endless LIES of the drug addict Rush Limpmind and also the endless LIES of the corporate toadies at FAKE-News. Have you ever considered posting a thought of your own?
Really, just hogwash. I am well aware of the caning that went on the floor of the Senate. However, by the 1980’s we have pretty much evolved. Now, due to the ill-mannered crowd now present, we have regressed. Only this time, Congress is both ignorant and ill-mannered. Quite a combination.
The leftists of which you speak would be called centrists just a couple of decades ago. I hardly see our government anywhere near the “Euro-style big government social-engineering liberal ideology.” For that matter, I don’t see Europe in this fantasy portrayed by the Tea Party ideologues.
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Of course, I won’t lay blame solely at the footsteps of Reality TV. However, I don’t see many other public examples of adult, gentlemanly behavior. Where are the role models for kids? In fact, I would say that I do not see many young adults understand or grasp the concept of “adult behavior.” They do not see to get the idea that it is time to “grow up.”
I don’t think anyone can look at the conflict resolutions techniques employed by Reality TV and call that desirable behavior. But, if this is all they know, and all they see, I suppose it is understandable why we see this coarse behavior in society.
Your examples of those who do not play ball with the other side conveniently left out any cooperative Dems from the “modern” era. Oh riiiiiiight, there aren’t any.
Seriously? You truly believe the claptrap about this legislation actually reducing costs? It’s not going to save squat and our President Unicorn/Rainbows and the Princess Pingree know it. HA HA HA. Thanks for the chuckle, Mike.
The ACA is the ROMNEYCARE twin which has 98% of everyone covered in Massachusetts, the law gets a 63% approval rating, and costs are down significantly. Again, that is ROMNEYCARE, the ACA’s twin law, so all the LIES you’ve been told by Rush Limpmind, FAKE-News, and your corporate masters at ALEC and the Heritage Foundation, along with your heroes the Koch Brothers, have already been totally debunked by YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE’S LAW: ROMNEYCARE.
Quite right. I think if one takes a step back and logically looks at where the expenses are with regard to medical care, one could have a list of a variety of areas that need to be addressed. It is not an all or nothing situation. To name a few – Medicare fraud, ER care (very expensive) being used when regular care should be used, manual paper record keeping costs (very high), lack of tort reform legislation, and the need for heroic care measures because people waited too long to seek medical care. I am sure there are many more.
Tackling some of these problems would reduce costs. As the GAO has shown, we pay top-dollar for our care and we really are not getting our money’s worth. If we set aside all the hand-wringing from those who have a major stake in making money on medical care and just look at the places where costs could be saved, we could arrive at a reasonable program. However, since so many people have a vested financial interest in this, you are not going to see much cooperation. And, of course, the goal by the Tea Party crowd is to use ACA to hang Obama even though it is a virtual copy of Romney’s plan. In retrospect, Obama could have saved himself a great deal of hassle by calling the ACA simply “Romney-care” or even “Reagan-care” (cue the choir). You don’t sell the steak, you sell the sizzle, and had ACA been better packaged and named, I doubt we’d be having this conversation. I personally am saving hundreds per month now that I have a no-cap, no life-time exclusion, high-deductible policy with an HSA that rolls over every year. My personal medical insurance went from $858/month down to $305/month and I get to sock away $4,050/year in pre-tax dollars in my HSA. For me, it’s a deal.
Do the actual math objectively, and quit using the stuff that Fox, ALEC, MHPC and the Koch Brothers are pushing on you, and you might just learn something. By getting everybody under a plan, even if it’s paid for under a penalty (call it a tax if it makes you feel better), the actual cost’s are spread out and reduced for everyone. As the economy recover’s, and it is recovering, more and more folk’s are going to be able to afford health care insurance, provided the insurance company’s don’t get greedy AND stupid (Anyone wanna take the odd’s of that happening in this lifetime ?) and let the competitive cost’s of uninsured coverage drop. The next big step in this mess is going to be when the Insurance company’s start raising their rate’s in almost unison. This happens and you can bet the farm that their’s going to be a call for a ‘monopoly’ investigation under the Anti-Trust’s collusion and collective ‘restraint-of-trade’ provision’s. And if the Insurance Company’s don’t realize it, they are one VERY short step from having Public Option used as THE Plan courtesy of their constant ‘poking-the-dog-in-the-eye’ nonsense. No one likes the ACA, fine. The only actual alternative is Public Option and that has everyone covered by the Fed’s. Now if you don’t like the ACA and it’s provision’s, just think about the ramification’s of that happening. Sometimes you really need to take that ‘long look’ down the road to realize just where you are headed or likely to wind up. And that’s what the ALEC and MHPC folk’s are determined keep you from realizing or thinking about.
Like it or not, this is going to take a while to finally work itself out into a actual working program. And the longer it takes, the more expensive it’s going to be. What’s clearly needed here is less hysteric’s and more open discussion and actual objective research. Then at least we are ALL using the same information to make our decision’s off of. But to make the blanket statement that the ACA is “claptrap” just shows how narrowminded and ignorant some folk’s both are, and are willing to be, in order to advance some radical right-wing position simply because they don’t like the inevitablity of the situation. And for what it’s worth, the fact that Pingree stood up and actually supported the Act, and the DC 9’s decision, while LePage is out actively fighting it shows who is looking out for Maine’s best interest, namely it’s citizen’s. I may not be in Chelle’s District but at this rate, if she ever decides to, she’s got my vote when she runs for Governor since she’s showing who’s interest she’s actually looking out for.
“Pingree, for her part, replied to LePage in a measured tone. “The health
care reform law was debated and passed by Congress, signed by the
President and upheld by the Supreme Court. It’s time to stop fighting
about the health care law and start following it,” she said.
Remember Ms Sussman. There are 7 Democratic Governors resisting medicaid expansion also. Gov Lepage isn’t the only one. Convince your own party members its the law.
Shouldn’t it be Mrs Sussman?
Maybe but that wasn’t my point. ….I was just making the 1% connection.
Well…… I kind of like it when the 1% stands with the 99%….. like those millionaires who showed up at OWS. Yes, there is something very American about that.
Don’t you feel used?
BTW. I didn’t get to respond to you before. Did you know that the AMA negotiated a $700 million deal with Congress for their support in passage of the Obamacare law.
I think everyone out there in the health care field was fighting for their survival. I am sure the insurance industry got their needs met too. Are you forgetting the process? All stakeholders were invited to the table to help fashion something that would work better for the American people. This is what they came up with. It has got to be better than what we had.
Ok, Sitting aside the fact that all stakeholders were NOT invited to the table, (if they were this would be settled now) lets just focus on the AMA.
You accused me of “”suppressing the truth” by bringing up the fact that the AMA made $700 million in exchange for their political support for the law. You said the AMA people were instead operating out of a sense of “ethics”.
Tell me, Wouldn’t it be more ethical if the AMA set aside their $700 million and contributed it to healthcare for the poor?
Are you attempting to make it sound like AMA was the only organization to contribute to one side or the other in this matter? I am sure that there were plenty of other organizations who lobbied either for or against ACA.
No Of course not. The AMA actually PROFITS ($) from the law and negotiated for those profits with a Democratic Congress in exchange for their support. KM says their position was arrived at out of their sense of ethics. I am simply pointing out that “ethics” may not have been their only motivation.
As far as the AMA profiting from the law I agree 100 percent. There are many groups such as AMA that will profit as a result of this law. The insurance industry being one of the major groups profiting. I also agree that this law in way too many ways looks like a horse designed by a committee. What I am having trouble understanding is why the right is screaming so loudly about people being required to buy insurance. For a long time we have heard those on the right talk about personal responsibility, but yet when a law is passed that requires that people take personal responsibility for their healthcare at least from an insurance standpoint the right goes bonkers. In my humble opinion the simplest way would have been to say Medicare for everyone and then put into place systems to prevent fraud within the system. Of course I doubt that the insurance industry would have been pleased with that route.
I have no problem with profits. I have a problem with people claiming they are doing things for ethical reasons when they have their hand in the public purse.
It would be impossible for the two to ever overlap?
Well I highly doubt that you will ever see ethics interfering with profits in the insurance industry.
At least the Insurance company doesn’t hide their profits behind “ethics”.
No I accused you of saying the woman who wrote the letter is on the dole. You brought up, is it a fact?, the $700 mil after I made that statement. And, funny I cannot find anything, anywhere that is credible about the AMA being given anything in exchange for their support and it seems the AMA is not completely happy with ACA http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/762962 . Seems like the law did not satisfy anyone completely but it has moved things forward. And I am all for that.
I did not use the term “dole”. You did.
https://www.healthy.net/scr/column.aspx?Id=1213
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/silent-majority-of-doctors-speak-out-submit-challenge-to-the-ama-102780849.html
http://patients.about.com/b/2011/01/17/the-ama-and-cpt-codes-getting-picky-and-on-my-case.htm
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100914/Physicians-Against-ObamaCare-challenges-AMA.aspx
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2011-10-08/news/tn-dpt-1009-commentary-20111008_1_american-medical-assn-physicians-codes
AMA 2009 revenue, according to “Hoover’s Company Profiles,” was $248
million, with $70 million of income coming from “publishing.” This is an
especially large percentage of revenue, considering that the AMA
membership dues were only $42 million.
http://www.prlog.org/10910605-self-serving-ama-sacrifices-patients-to-business-interests-says-anesthesiologist.html
http://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=1009
Only the ALEC and Nordquist disciples should feel used.
I think you’re distorting the 1%/99% thing purposefully for your point. It isn’t about blanketly hating the 1%, it’s about not pandering to them and skewing the rules in their favor. No one hates success, but I think most would agree it’s best to have a level playing field. One where everyone can win or lose and where the rules aren’t skewed so the winners can only ever keep winning.
What do other governors have to do with the discussion? We’re in Maine, and our elected officials are chosen to represent us, not piggyback on others’ decisions.
Pingree is an elitist 1%. What would you expect from someone of her kind!!!
I realize today that “measured tone,” diplomacy, and intellectualism equals “elitist.” Most of the people I know who fall into those categories are anything but “elitist.” Your comment sounds like sour grapes.
Actually, Chuck, today’s elitist equals those who think themselves wiser and enlightened and therefore more capable of making decisions for everyone else in the traditional liberal way. They just know what’s better for the great unwashed and actually resent that the huddled masses might dare think otherwise. Your implication that measured tone and intellectualism are the sole property of the left is quite laughable and quite revealing.
I think the proof is in the pudding. If the Republican Primary and those debates are any indication of the caliber of the people representing the Tea Party then perhaps a bit of intellectualism and guidance from saner minds should prevail. Unwashed masses is too kind a phrase for them.
While I agree intellectualism is not the sole purview of the left, those with that capacity on the right as sorely missing in action, or in hiding, waiting for the Tea Party crowd to finally burn out, or at least, die off. As a former Republican, I certainly would like to see the return of people of the caliber of William F. Buckley, Jr., George Will, Barry Goldwater, Eisenhower, etc. Perhaps, they could clean out this riff-raff in the House that has yet to show anything but pandering to the likes of Norquist and the Koch brothers. Their mission is to ensure the President does not have a second term. I thought it was to govern the country.
She’s a good elitist though. We already know what to expect from her. She takes care of the people of Maine.
Do you do stand up?
I may have tried it in my younger days when I had one to many but ,like Mitt Romney, I don’t recall doing it.
ad hominem attacks don’t advance the discussion.
Welfare for everyone! Fat, Lazy, Bon Bon eating pigs can stay on the couch.
An elitist 1%? You mean like Mitt Romney?
There really is no need for Congresswoman Pingree to convince anyone of anything when it comes to the Affordable Care Act. It has been decided by the highest court in the land and all the yelling and posturing in the world will not change it. Congress can repeal it, Congress can modify it or make changes to the law, but until it is changed or repealed it is the law of the land. If the radical right wants to change the law the only way to do that is to win the election this fall and send more republicans to the House and Senate then Democrats and to elect a Republican President. As our radical right tea party parrot republicans are so fond of saying, “Get over it” it is time to move on. LePage and others of his ilk can call all the government agencies names like he did with the IRS, he can talk about rationing and death as he has done. He can claim that our freedoms have all been taken away and he can make all the stupid remarks he wishes, but until the law is repealed or changed by Congress and signed into law by The President it is the law of the land and all the letters and speeches and name calling won’t change it. We have serious problems in the State of Maine, unemployment has been rising in our State since December of 2011. Personal income is down. It is time for LePage to do the job he was elected and paid by the Maine People to do, solve MAINE’S problems.
It is logic vs. emotion. Pingree is following the law. LePage, as usual, is throwing a tantrum.
The Princess overstepped herself. It is up to the governor to make the call, not her. Several other states are also choosing to not implement Obamacare and all its tentacles. The Princess already made her position clear when she voted it into existence and foisted the LARGEST tax increase on the middle class in US history. Wow, thanks a lot, Princess.
You are not being truthful just like LeBUFFOON and the rest of your TeaRadical corporate toadies who exist to help CEO’s buy more mansions while destroying the American middle class. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the Affordable Care Act will SAVE hundreds of billions of dollars, so enough of this taxation lie and enough of all the right wing LIES, designed merely to help your insurance company CEO masters continue their crimes of throwing people off healthcare or denying it so they can buy more mansions. Jesus Christ would be disgusted with the right wing corporate toadie liars, and when LeBUFFOON and the rest of the horrid right wing ilk kick the bucket you can be sure they will be down there with Lucifer boiling in the cauldron. PS: The Affordable Care Act is the ROMNEYCARE TWIN, which is actually working well in Massachusetts. So I guess you hate the policies of your very own presidental candidate, since he said ROMNEYCARE is a “Republican way” and “national model” of getting everyone covered with insurance. He said the mandate was the right thing to do to get everyone in the system, and that of course was a Republican idea in the first place like so many other provisions of the Affordable Care Act. And just what is the congressional Republican alternative? It is “Full coverage is not the point.” That is just what Corporate Toadie Repulican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said. In other words, the new Republican plan is “If you get sick and don’t have insurance, TOUGH LUCK. WE DON’T CARE ! Just DIE QUICKLY so we don’t have to deal with you. We only care about helping insurance company CEO’s buy more mansions.” THAT is the TeaPublican plan.
Your foaming at the mouth, calm down.
I will add my comment and go back and read replies from others, so pardon any duplication. The recent SCOTUS ruling on ACA being a tax or a fee or penalty – I really could not care less what you call it, is only levied on those who do not have health insurance and do not subsequently obtain it. And, for low-income people, there are subsidies to pay for it. How this turned into the “largest tax increase,” I guess I am too liberal to understand.
Bravo! Well stated.
dumb
CAGE MATCH!!!!!
That’s actually pretty funny. With her money she would hire a ringer though.
Which would be the logical action to take. LePage would be heading for a singlet fitting (not a good vision).
NOW! NOW! Don’t be picking on people just because they have money. LePage is just mad because he felt Pingree wounded his inflated ego.
LePage would just try bluster, like any good bully.
I’m sure the Heritage Foundation would hook him up with buckets of secret super PAC dollars.
It’s not how much money you have, it’s what you do with it.
The picture they selected looks like a scene from TVs “Ridiculousness” just before the victim steps off the curb, trips and lands on her face.
Righty and Lefty. Would be entertaining, were it happening in, say, Romania.
“Their clash was not just about Medicaid but about Pingree going over LePage’s head”
Doesn’t most everything go over this guys head?
Well researched and written editorial.
This is well written and very informative.
Pingree vs. LePage = Intelligent Progressive Who Fights For Working Families vs. Certifiable Delusional Nutcase Who Lies About The Healthcare Law
LePage is directly addressing a problem Maine and other states are addressing – federal mandates that states cannot afford. LePage and the Legislature enacted responsible (overdue) MaineCare cuts, but the Feds, who do not need to balance their budget, say “we rule, you drool.”
Pingree is a classic liberal – spend other people’s money with abandon to keep people enslaved to entitlements and the party that expands them – the Dems.
We must beat Obama, repeal Obamacare, and challenge the power of the feds to dictate to the states.
I ask again, what is it about $15 trillion (that is $15 million million) that you people fail to understand? Why are so willing to put our children and grandchildren in debt to support a failed political ideology?
LePage is directly addressing a problem Maine and other states are addressing – federal mandates that states cannot afford. LePage and the Legislature enacted responsible (overdue) MaineCare cuts, but the Feds, who do not need to balance their budget, say “we rule, you drool.”
Pingree is a classic liberal – spend other people’s money with abandon to keep people enslaved to entitlements and the party that expands them – the Dems.
We must beat Obama, repeal Obamacare, and challenge the power of the feds to dictate to the states.
I ask again, what is it about $15 trillion (that is $15 million million) that you people fail to understand? Why are so willing to put our children and grandchildren in debt to support a failed political ideology?