AUGUSTA, Maine — Former Husson University President Bill Beardsley learned in 2005 that the Rev. Bob Carlson “was not who he appeared to be,” according to a report released Wednesday about allegations that Carlson sexually abused minors.

In addition, students at the school had told Beardsley about abuse of students there, the Maine State Police report said.

Carlson, who was the chaplain at Husson from 1995 until 2006, jumped to his death in the early morning hours of Nov. 13 from the Penobscot Narrows Bridge. A few days after his death, the state police announced they had been investigating an allegation that Carlson had sexually abused an 11-year-old boy in the 1970s.

In the state police report — in which much of the information is redacted — Sgt. Troy A. Gardner wrote in November about allegations of abuse reported by Husson students. “[Redacted] advised that a previous official at Husson College [k]new about the abuse allegations,” he wrote. “Allegations by two new students: one student went to the President Bill Beardsley.

“Bill was approached by a third party re: abuse to a second student,” the report continued. “Abuse to both victims occurred before the age of 18. President Beardsley brought the allegations to Bob’s attention and Bob resigned [as chaplain].”

Beardsley, who is now commissioner of the Maine Department of Conservation, said Wednesday that Gardner never told him about those statements.

“That never happened,” Beardsley said of the statement in Gardner’s report.

“I had no knowledge of anything illegal or unlawful of anything Bob Carlson ever did,” he said.

Efforts to reach Gardner were unsuccessful Wednesday.

“Mr. Beardsley’s information and response to our questions is included in the report and speaks for itself,” Gardner’s supervisor, Lt. Christopher Coleman, said in an email Wednesday. “We have redacted information to protect the identities and privacy of witnesses and victims.”

Julie Green, director for public affairs and government relations at Husson, said Wednesday that two state police detectives interviewed Vice President John Rubino for approximately 30 minutes about Carlson’s tenure there in late November, about two weeks after his suicide. To her knowledge that was the only time a Husson official was interviewed by investigators.

In a July 11 interview with Beardsley in the commissioner’s office in Augusta, Gardner did not appear to ask about the allegations, according to his report.

Beardsley told Gardner that Carlson resigned a day after the university president informed the chaplain that Beardsley had received a phone call in 2007 or 2008 in which a caller said Carlson “had participated in a sexual relationship with someone years ago,” Gardner wrote in his three-page report, which is attached to a longer state police report released Wednesday.

“The caller dictated that Commissioner Beardsley, then President Beardsley, was to call Bob into the office and repeat the conversation with Bob,” Gardner wrote in the report. “The caller informed then-President Beardsley that if he did not bring Bob into the office to repeat this conversation the caller could go public with the information concerning Bob and the sexual relationship. Beardsley said he asked the caller if there [was] anything that he needed to follow up on but was told that all he needed to do was repeat the conversation with Bob.

“Commissioner Beardsley reported that he immediately contacted Bob and that Bob was in the office within the next hour o[r] two,” the report continued. “Commissioner Beardsley reported that he repeated the conversation to Bob and that Bob reported that he had never done anything unlawful. Commissioner Beardsley reported that he told Bob that if he ever found any evidence that Bob was engaged in any unlawful or inappropriate activity there would be no place for him at Husson.”

Beardsley, who originally refused to meet with investigators, according to the report, said Wednesday in a telephone interview that he never had any information that Carlson was sexually abusing or ever had sexually abused minors.

“My reaction when he resigned was that he must have had his reasons after I had that conversation with him,” Beardsley said Wednesday.

In 2005, Beardsley received a phone call from a friend of his who was a minister in Vermont, according to the report. Beardsley said Wednesday that his friend, who is not named in the report and whose name Beardsley refused to give to investigators, did not offer specific or first-hand information.

“I don’t know why, but I had the impression after that conversation that Bob had had a sexual relationship years ago with a seminary student in Massachusetts,” Beardsley said Wednesday.

Beardsley said that he never called police because “I had nothing to go to the authorities with.”

Carlson’s relationship with Husson began in 1995 when he volunteered to serve as chaplain for what was then Husson College, Beardsley told Gardner. The minister became the full-time chaplain on Sept. 1, 2002, and submitted his resignation letter on Dec. 15, 2006, according to Green. Carlson’s resignation was effective Dec. 31, 2006, she said Wednesday.

“We are reading these allegations for the first time the same as everyone else,” Green said in a statement issued Wednesday. “As I understand it from what I’ve read, Commissioner Beardsley was contacted about some behaviors that occurred years ago, he talked with Carlson and then Carlson resigned.

“We cannot speculate about what went on during a phone conversation between Commissioner Beardsley and an unnamed person,” she said. “Beardsley made it clear he did not share that conversation with anyone else on the Husson campus.

“There have never been any allegations — let me repeat, there have never been any allegations — that any abuse occurred here at Husson during Carlson’s time at the university,” Green said.

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    1. Let’s not forget that Beardsley threw his hat in the ring for governor and ran as a conservative, family values guy. 

  1. I smell a bunch of rats. All who knew but didn’t say anything should be prosecuted. Like I said before…it makes you wonder what else they are hiding.

    1. Beardsley is a republican and one of the masterminds behind the recent give away, er privatization of Fort Knox.  He and our governor wouldn’t hold public talks about that either.  In their arrogant attitude of superiority the GOP believes they are above the law and this gets proven time and time again.

      1. Bob Carlson was a “dear friend” of John Baldacci, as Carlson himself liked to tell everyone (check out the Letters to the Editor in the April 24, 2011 BDN).  His ties were to the democrats.  This is not a political matter.  However, it was a letter to LePage, the Boy Scouts, the Sheriff’s Dept. and the Maine State Police that spurred the big fake to take his life. Had Baldacci been in office, I am not so sure the result would have been the same.  Who knows the man was sick.

        1. I agree.  Why everyone tries to turn these things into a political matter is beyond me.  I’m sure there were people of all backgrounds who are responsible for inaction at best and shoulder some responsibility for letting this man continue to roam free.  Crazy and evil know no political affiliation, they’re just crazy and evil.

          1. You are so right, George. Clergy sexual abuse of children and adults is not a political matter whatsoever; and it happens in all denominations and religions. And if BDN readers think that such abuse of power is limited to children, due to the complex psychological dynamics in the pastor/parishioner relationship; and in the abuse of power that occurs, it happens to adults too. There are many resources available regarding children who are sexually abused by clergy, and a great resource for adults can be found at http://www.thehopeofsurvivors.org. Also, Baylor University did a thorough study of clergy sexual abuse of adults that nails it. The Bangor Daily News and local TV stations should do investigative reports on both child and adult clergy sexual abuse in our area; as not only does it not know any political or denominational boundaries, it also does not know any geographical boundaries. Maine has had its share of clergy sexual abuse over the years, but unfortunately it is rarely reported on. Perhaps true investigative journalism doesn’t exist in Maine!

          2. Are you implying true investigative journalism actually happens on Fox?  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

          3. You are both mistaken.  Any time a public servant is/was involved in a crime it is political.  This is particularly true when they currently hold a position that administers property held in the public trust.  Dr. Beardsley, as current Director of the Maine Dept of Conservation, is a public servant who certainly holds a position that  oversee’s property held in the public trust.  I only “know” what we’ve read in the paper and heard on TV but to me this sounds almost exactly like what happened at Penn State.

      2. Stop the disinformation campaign regarding Fort Knox. The Fort is still owned by the state. It was not given away…BDN, this isn’t even related to the story..why do you allow this guy’s rants on here?

        1. Say mainewtf, what’s YOUR connection to Fort Knox?  Come on, be honest here.  Everyone knows who I am.  As for who owns Ft Knox, tell me, when you rent an apartment do you say “I’m going home” or do you say  “I’m going back to Mr. Corporations house where I currently lease a rent controlled apartment?”  Fort Knox was given to the FOFK, of which I am a former member, in all but the actual deed to the property.  Now the relation to this story: Dr. Beardsley, as the current (but not for long) Commissioner for the Department of Conservation, had authority and oversight on this transaction, second only to Governor LePage.  Dr. Beardsley, as you point out in another comment below, appears to have been complicit in the coverup of this crime at  Husson. Is this all clear enough for you?

  2. ‘Beardsley, who originally refused to meet with investigators, said Wednesday in a telephone interview that he never had any information that Carlson was sexually abusing or ever had sexually abused minors’  Why would anyone REFUSE to meet with authorities…..unless they have something to hide?  Wouldn’t you want to do anything you could to help the investigators?  Beardsley knew something in 2005 yet Carlson didn’t resign until 2008….guess there was no hurry in insuring students safety and well being right Beardsley?  PATHETIC.
    ‘Beardsley said that he never called police because “I had nothing to go to the authorities with.’  It’s not your job to decide if you had something for the authorities to investigate or not investigate- that would be up to the authorities not your call to make Beardsley- YOU had the information YOU did nothing with the information.  YOU clearly knew something wasn’t right with Carlson and yet YOU chose to do nothing you are no different than the fired Penn State president Spanier.   Again PATHETIC.

    1.  You said it.  Bill Beardsley’s responses and actions or lack thereof are pathetic.  I just hope people don’t forget that Beardsley may have helped a pedophile conduct more sexual acts against children.  And if that is the case and a victim is reading this, I hope they find themselves a good lawyer and sue Bill Beardsley and others who did nothing.  Nothing can take the memories away of what Carlson did, but having a bank load of money to have some fun, start a scholarship program to help others, etc. may help the healing process.

      1. There is a thing called due process and innocent until proven guilty, and just because someone in the BDN writes it it doesn’t make it true.

        1.  I would NEVER meet with authorities on any subject without a lawyer.  I would never meet with authorities for a fishing expedition.

          People are falsely accused and have their lives ruined by this type of charge, all the time. 

      1. I was going by what this said- kinda hard to resign in 2006 when Beardsley didn’t get the call until 2007 or 2008.   Interesting inconsistencies don’t you think??  ‘Beardsley, who is now commissioner of the Maine Department of Conservation, told Gardner that Carlson resigned a day after the university president informed the chaplain that Beardsley had received a phone call in 2007 or 2008 in which a caller said Carlson “had participated in a sexual relationship with someone years ago’

  3. He should have called the police and let them decide if he had nothing to report/investigate.  Carlson should have been placed on leave till outcome of said report.  Beardsley didn’t want to drag Husson through an investigation of a person with such high regards in the area but when it comes to kids and the students at husson that should always be looked into no matter how little information you had.

  4. Beardsley said, “I had nothing to go to authorities with.” Students come into your office. You reiterate what the students told you to Bob Carlson. He resigns. You go to the authorities. This was not a “personnel” matter. This was a criminal matter.

  5. Without a dramatic event leading to a thorough investigation, this type of inaction must happen all the time because society does not reward whistleblowing.  This type of behavior starts in elementary school when someone reports a wrongdoing and is labelled a snitcher.  As adults, individuals in authority want to protect an institution or protect a friend / colleague.  Lack of action / reporting is rationalized on the grounds of self-interest or fear of getting involved and having to support any allegations.  The Penn State incident reflects this attitude to protect the guiltyby assuming that the establishment will overlook the violations.    In this case, Gov. Lepage should ask Mr. Beardsley to resign consistent with other actions taken against Cabinet members.  Dr. Beardsley will have the opportunity to defend his lack of action.  Gov.  Lepage has been a defender of the abused.  Dr. Beardsley is not indispensable and should be held accountable for his actions and should demonstrate some integrity.

  6. Why is the BDN continuing to refer to this guy as a “minister”.    The one clear fact that this whole debacle has proven, beyond refute, is that this man is entirely undeserving of respect.

  7. No surprise that men (and women) who lacked the courage to step up when Carlson was alive to report his crimes are now scrambling to cover their own cowardly backsides rather than take responsibility for the abuse that could have been prevented if they had not been complicit by their silence. 

  8. “Beardsley, who is now commissioner of the Maine Department of Conservation, told Gardner that Carlson resigned a day after the university president informed the chaplain that Beardsley had received a phone call in 2007 or 2008 in which a caller said Carlson “had participated in a sexual relationship with someone years ago,” Gardner wrote in his three-page report, which is attached to a longer state police report released Wednesday. ” – What is the phone call in 2007 or 2008? Is this the same phone call with his friend in 2005?

  9. Two words come to mind after reading this about The current Commissioner of The Maine Department of Conservation. COVER UP. In as much as Mr. Beardsley is currently a member of Governor LePage’s cabinet it would be interesting to see what Mr. LePage has to say in this matter. Aren’t the tea party republicans supposed to be all about family values? Do we now refer to Husson University as Penn State North?

  10. Who is this joker trying to fool?  He had information and he didn’t do the right thing.  A lot of information?  A little information?  Who knows, but he had information and as a human being with any sense of what doing the right thing means, he had an obligation to report it.  Let the authorities take care of the rest.  How does he sleep at night?  How would he feel it if was one of his children who had to suffer the rest of their life because someone didn’t do the right thing when they had the chance? Nobody wants to take any responsibility in this case.  Be accountable for your actions people. You are no better than the person who committed the crime if you kept information that could have helped people and stopped the perp.  So many cowards in all of this.  The perp jumps and avoids any responsibility for the lives he’s ruined and the other cowards claim they “had no idea”.  Bangor is evidently the new Penn State!!  I’m disgusted  

    1. Not really, Penn State institutional wide cover up at multiple levels because of $$ and football with witnesses and reports.  Husson, depending on how much you believe beardsley, a phone call saying that carlson has homosexual tendencies and a caller that doesn’t give their name telling him to have carlson come into his office and ask him about a sexual relationship with someone years ago.  I do not believe that was all that the caller said but that is all that we have to go on for right now.  One person at Husson with limited information that was more about homosexual relations vs. Penn State with at least 4 people with knowledge of rape of boys.  I do believe that there is more to what beardsley knows then what he is saying.  I’m guessing but the person he was told had a relationship with carlson years ago probably was a current student at the time meaning if he connected the dots would have put said student as a minor when said relationship took place.  I think beardsley is trying to cover is own as# so he doesn’t loose his current job!

  11. Put your pitchforks down and read the interview with Beardsley. Someone told him that Carlson had “had sex with someone.” This is not illegal, even for a minister. One cannot be fired for “having sex wih someone” nor is it grounds for launching a criminal investigation. This BDN headline is incredibly irresponsible.

    1. The context in which the disclosure event occurred, in itself, implies sexual abuse.  And if this happened to you or a loved one, what would your feelings be of Beardsley refusing to cooperate or not wanting to be interviewed by law enforcement?  Sounds to me the police report says it all. And I’ve no doubt the Investigators have had a hard time dealing with these so called leaders who now imply the State Police Report is false.  

  12. Min-Penn….it does smack of it, doesn’t it?!    Beardsley?   You are DISGUSTING excuse for a leader of our youth.  You had people come forward and claim Carlson was engaged in inappropriate relations with students under the age of 18.   If you were not equipped to thoroughly and fairly investigate, the proper thing to do would be to involve the authorities and let them decide if it was worth exploring.  When you bring these matters to the police, you take the monkey (not just the public relations nightmare, sir, but the worry and concern that comes with fearing there is a predator on the loose) off your back and place it on the back of our law enforcement officers. 

    Where has true leadership gone?   My heart aches for the victims of Bob Carlson.  

    As far as the therapist and his/her office goes:   really?   Is there no crime here?  Are therapists really expected to remain silent in a situation like this?   If so,  that sickens me and it should outrage all of us.  Please don’t tell me this ties to any patient confidentiality / Hippa law…..that would be over the top.

  13. Beardsley is in denial of his actions. He is on “vacation”   (i.e. hoping people will forget).  Maine politics will “circle the wagons” to protect this  enabler.   If our Governor is a man,  a meeting will happen and Beardsley will be on permanent vacation without pay. There are probably other enablers who are hoping like _ell they are not identified. BDN should take a stand and publish the public release version (Freedom of information act) of the police report. The “Beardsleys” of this mess can’t just say it didn’t happen and hope the citizens will go away.  They kept it going when it could have been stopped. These aren’t men………or leaders, but somehow they feel they are above the law. They all contacted Carlson first, their friend, instead of worrying about the victims. Like the Maine State Police report says, “Mr. Beardsley’s response to our questions is included in the report and speaks for itself”

    “There have never been any allegations — let me repeat, there have never been any allegations — that any abuse occurred here at Husson during Carlson’s time at the university,” Green said. ……………. I’ll not be shocked when i read there are.

  14. Lots of posters seem eager to throw Beardsley under the bus on this issue, but based on WHAT?  First, we don’t yet know if Sgt. Gardner has it exactly right about who knew what when. Then, we also don’t know if Beardsley even knew who the caller was or if the caller said that he was a minor when he had begun the sexual relationship with the caller.  Just think about the phone call Beardsley would have to make to the police…..”yesterday some man I don’t know called me and told me he once had a sexual relationship with our chaplain and asked me to repeat the conversation to this chaplain, which apparently led to him resigning today.”  If he had made that call, some of his harshest critics today would have been calling him a homophobe, and what crime would the police have attempted to investigate?   I have exactly NO patience, or even forgiveness for anyone who covers up for someone molesting a minor, but I also don’t think it’s fair to assume that someone  did that when we’re not even sure he knew the relationship involved a minor.  Though someone in Carlsons position 10 years ago may have found it embarrassing for it to have been disclosed that he once had a homosexual relationship with another man, if Beardsley had been led to believe it was an adult, mutual consenting relationship, he’d have looked pretty stupid for reporting it to the police.

  15. I once worked in Florida, and as I recall in my job if we knew or even suspected anything like this was going on and did not report it to authorities, we would be criminally libel too.

    1. If you got your degree, then you’ve got nothing to complain about.  If you didn’t then it’s your loss.  Seriously, this is not related to your 20K at all.  

        1. Why does that mean you should get your money back?  Forgive me, as I didn’t go to NESCOM, do they guarantee job placement?  I’m not sure why this story is relevant to you deserving to get your money back.

  16. The time line doesn’t work… why would Carlson resign a year before he was called into the office by Beardsley… this smells like a hatchet job against Beardsley…

    1. Yes, they are going after Beardsley and trying to make this political. The BDN always goes after the republican.  How about John Baldacci? Carlson certainly rose in the ranks during his tenure.  What about PCHC? Bob was also on the board at John Bapst.   Has there been any federal investigation of funding to PCHC?  Bob had access to federal monies.  What about the DHHS?  Was there claims against Carlson there?  I believe there were.  What was done with those claims?  Most importantly, what about the sheriff’s dept.?  Bob knew back in the 70’s that the Sheriff is the highest level of law enforcement.  That is why he go in there.  This investigation needs to continue, I believe there is much more.  This man was pure evil.  Everything he touched needs to be investigated.  

  17. The victims deserve to know who was involved, who knew and why authorities were not notified, no matter who is on the list.  “Case closed” is not the answer.

  18. While Beardsley should resign, so also should Sheriff Glen Ross.  Both are admittedly guilty of notifying their friend instead of the authorities.  And, Ross IS the authority!  He can sugar coat it all he likes, but Sheriff Ross enabled a child molester to walk….if only to the Bridge.  Many answers could have been provided if the process had been allowed to take place.

    1. Yes, Ross is the Sherifff, the highest level of law enforcement.  He should definitely resign.  I do not believe for one moment that he never heard anything improper about Bob Carlson.

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