WATERVILLE, Maine — After a series of setbacks at the Republican National Convention last week in Tampa, Fla., the Ron Paul wing of Maine’s Republican Party gained a symbolic victory Saturday.
During a meeting from which the media was barred Saturday morning, the Maine Republican Party’s state committee passed four resolutions proposed prior to last month’s national convention by Paul supporters who are members of the state committee. The resolutions passed by wide margins Saturday, according to Jonathan Pfaff, a member of the state committee from Cumberland County, who helped draft the resolutions.
The first resolution denounces the Republican National Committee’s decision not to seat all 20 Maine delegates pledged to Paul, a libertarian-leaning U.S. representative from Texas. That decision, based on a report that portrayed the state convention in May as chaotic and riddled with credentialing errors, led the national committee to replace 10 Maine delegates committed to Paul with alternates who support GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. In Tampa, Maine’s Ron Paul delegates protested that decision, then walked out of the convention.
The second resolution, which was amended to reflect the fact that it was considered after the national convention, condemns a challenge to the state convention delegate selection process filed by Romney supporters Jan Martens Staples and Peter Cianchette. Initially, the resolution included a demand that the challenge be withdrawn. The timing of Saturday’s meeting made that point moot.
The third resolution expressed no confidence in Staples’ ability to represent the Maine Republican Party in “a fair and professional manner” as national committeewoman for the Maine Republican Party. Delegates to the state convention in May voted to replace her with Ashley Ryan, who traveled to Tampa as a Paul delegate.
The fourth resolution asked Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster to remove Staples immediately from the Maine GOP’s rules and bylaws committee. The state committee did not vote on a fifth resolution calling for Staples’ immediate resignation as state committeewoman, because she no longer serves in that role.
Staples attended Saturday’s meeting “prepared to answer any questions,” she said.
“I finally got up to make a few points,” she said, but after “five or six minutes,” it became clear to her that, while some people in the room were paying close attention to her, others “weren’t interested in listening.”
When Staples spoke to the committee Saturday, one member turned his back to her in protest, according to a state committee member who asked not to be identified.
Emphasizing that she filed the challenge as part of her responsibility as a member of the state party’s rules committee, Staples on Sunday morning described the personal nature of the resolutions as “sad more than anything else.”
She worried that the backlash against her and Cianchette for filing the challenge to what happened at the state convention signals a shift to a more rigid interpretation of “party unity” to one in which supporters of candidates who don’t prevail will turn on candidates who do.
“This contest was not about Romney versus Ron Paul,” Staples told the Bangor Daily News. “This is about preserving the integrity of the process so that when we take votes, whether winning or losing, we can move on knowing that it was done fairly and by the rules. I had a special obligation as a member of the rules committee to ensure that the rules be upheld. I would not put myself through this for personal reasons.”
Saturday’s votes come too late to satisfy the petitioners’ original intent.
In their July 30 call for a special meeting of the state committee, the petitioners asked Webster to convene a meeting to address the five resolutions on either Aug. 11 or Aug. 18, prior to the national convention. Webster told the Bangor Daily News on Friday that he did not believe he could gather a quorum on either of those dates. He called the state committee together for the special meeting on Saturday in compliance with party rules, even though the items to be considered would “no longer be pertinent,” according to Webster.
For Pfaff, though, Saturday’s votes matter because they place the state committee on record “that the state convention was run fairly and correctly.”
“The message that I wanted to get out is that the Maine Republican Party is open to everyone and that when you come to participate, your vote will matter,” Pfaff said Saturday. “A body of RNC officials from outside the state will not take away your representation.”
Saturday’s meeting was followed by a show of unity in which Paul supporters who had been at odds with party leaders went door-to-door with them to campaign for Waterville-area Republican legislative candidates.
“It’s time to move on and get Republican candidates elected,” Pfaff said.
For now, many members of a new wave of Maine conservatives motivated by Paul and tea party principles to become active in the Republican party seem inclined to stick with the GOP after being angered and frustrated by the events in Tampa last week.
Whether that conservative activism will redefine the party of moderates Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and William Cohen remains to be seen. On Dec. 1, state committee members will meet to elect party officers, including a chairman, to two-year terms.
I think I swallowed a fly!! I swallowed a fly! What do I do? What can happen?
What can happen is that the party can be rebuilt and I believe this is a stepping stone towards that.. At least most intelligent people reconize that… I can’t imagine anyone in america not wanting their vote to count… Do you want you vote to count? or do you want the DNC to vote for you?
What this whole thing boiled down to was that the old establishment represented by Ms. Staples and Mr. Cianchette, the state chair of the Romney campaign did not like the results coming out of the GOP state convention. Maine would have cast 20 votes for Rep. Paul and 4 votes for Gov. Romney. The RNC dictated solution resulted in 14 votes for Romney and only 10 for Paul. Staples claimed that the Contest to the duly elected delegates was about the integrity of the process but one would have to be delusional to believe she would have filed the Contest if the Romney slate had won.
and B I N G O! was his name-o
Yeah, BINGO !!!!
I say the bottom line as if you like deadlock, vote GOTea, the opposition is already build in.
What happened to the Ron Paul delegates in Tampa is important. This year, the national Republican Party was challenged on how it will be constituted. It could have made itself more democratic giving the “grass roots” little guy more of a voice. Instead it decided to give the already powerful more power…. and took power away from average Republicans.
A new rule provides for the majority, in this case Romney supporters, to decide who will represent the minority, this time Paul supporters. Projecting that to Congress, it is like Democratic Leader Harry Reid deciding which Texas Republican was going to represent Texas in the US Senate and so on for every state that went Republican.
This is how corporations are run, but not political parties. Republicans don’t seem to see the difference.
A national convention is more than a sales pitch opportunity. For one thing it decides what rules will be used in picking the next presidential nominee.
After their disastrous1968 convention the Democratic Party also made huge changes in their rules. But theirs were enacted to ensure that the little guy had more voice not less.
The Republican Party is no longer a political party. It’s just another advertising agency. Unfortunately, it’s an ad agency that will also probably be selecting some future Presidents.
Jason, you are spot on. I won’t be voting for Romney-Paul or ANYONE on the Republican ticket, now that Snowe has stepped aside. BUT, I respect the Paul supporters, even though they primarily represent the Tea Party, for the reasons of fairness and voice. Not too long ago, the conventions were held to select, at that time, who their delegate for the Office would be. Last week, it was clear who would be chosen, yet the Paul supporters were not given their voice by their own members, even though it would not have changed the end results. And for that, I support their efforts and committment to their cause. It shines an ever brighter light on how closely orchestrated and animated the whole political system has become and how” hidden in plain sight” corporate money pays for their choreographers.
Good…here’s a newsflash, Maine has all of 4 Electoral votes. And Maine’s rarely go to the Republican. For these morons to travel to Florida beating the Ron Paul drum, is stupid. The Convention was about endorsing Romney/Ryan and getting behind that.
You can cry conspiracy all you want…this story, despite all their efforts to complain to any microphone they could find, is lame. They tried to hijack the Maine Convention and wanted to hijack the one in Tampa. Guess what? You aren’t that special.
So, finish your tantrum and go threaten to vote for Nader, Perot or whoever your kook third party candidate is.
Since when has standing up for justice been stupid.. I hope you are not a judge.
pushtheredbutton, they are undoing their own fabric, leave them to it, we are winning and they don’t know how to get back on top of something they can’t control
Republicans are embarrassed by Lepage and his cronies, especially Webster. I am glad these people stood up and sent a strong message. That is what makes this country great.
If you think that Webster is a “crony” of Gov. LePage you really have no clue. We are proud of what we have accomplished under the leadership of our Governor and our legislative leadership. There are quite a few Republicans that have expressed their displeasure with the conduct of the party chairman.
Paul LePage could have accomplished everything that he has accomplished in a more civil and respectful manner, and if he had been more civil and respectful he would be enjoying more support.
I don’t think he’s a crony of LePage’s either. I was, and am, very disappointed that Webster and the state Party leadership were caught flatfooted by the swing to the right in 2010. They hadn’t or couldn’t cultivate a better candidate for us, so this is who we got. I hope they haven’t blown a once-in-a-generation chance.
Many people have displeasure with Lepage as well which can be seen right here over and over again. When I speak of cronies the reference is to all Republicans state and nationally. I, too, will not be voting for any Republicans to support their disdain and unwillingness to help us move forward with job creation,etc..
Stong message you have to be kidding. It just showed how childish this years Rep. Convention was.
Fighting among yourselves will NOT make this country great.
I am NOT embarrassed by Governor LePage. For once we have a man who has a mind of his own and isn’t afraid to speak it. While I may wish it was, at times, a little more civilly I still stand behind him. Would I vote for him again? YOU BET I WOULD!
It became stupid when the ron paul backers started to act like spoiled little brats.
So it is lame to contest the fact that delegates were duly elected by an established process, and then when people higher up don’t like the outcome they can dictate terms to swing things their way? How would you feel if it was a group that you supported who was being trod over? There was an established process, things didn’t go the way they were expected to go because there was so much support for a different candidate. If they wanted their delegates elected they should of gotten their supporters out there, Paul supporters showed up the others didn’t. It’s that simple, one side clearly lost and the other won, yet somehow at the national level they are allowed to over turn that? How is that right for any group be it a small local or large national group?
That is exactly what the ron paul backers did, they didn’t like the outcome so they began to act out in a boorish and unintelligent manner. One side clearly did win, the Republican side.
The Ron Paul backers loved the outcome at Augusta. The whole point of this is that at the national convention the elected delegates were going to be split up, how is that right in any process? Taking a stand and fighting against that is not unintelligent, if no one were to oppose the tactics used against them, what is to stop some other group with a majority from walking all over the little guy. There’s a thing called tyranny of the majority and it’s not ok. If Romney supporters had shown up they could have elected their slate of delegates, but they didn’t so they shouldn’t have been given ten delegates from Maine, yet somehow ten delegates fro Romney from Maine were seated. You somehow think that’s right?
it’s about respect for other people. The Romney people wanted Maine to go to Romney so they devised a plan to do that without respect to the delegates that were voting for Ron Paul. It’s win at whatever cost is necessary and if a few people get their feelings hurt…they don’t care.
Excellent! Well said and right on target.
Amen!
LOL, good, I wish they would get the old Vaudeville, HOOK, and yank that human megaphone Harring off the stage, we in Maine do not need the embarrasment.
Actually turning out more numbers, studying and learning the rules of the game and then playing it strategically to ACTUALLY WIN, is not hijacking. It shows competence and organization.
The least votes received for the candidate on the Paul slate was still over 100 more votes for the candidate that received the most on the Romney slate. It’s called TURNING OUT THE VOTE.
I hope you guys do as good a job for the presidential election otherwise Obama will get re-elected ! Only a couple of months away ! put down the clubs and get to work !
Better to face the enemy we know than to face an enemy we don’t know!
they are all crazy like Lepage
It has nothing to do with being special. It has to do with the fact that the so-called party of law and order only acts in accordance with that concept when it behooves them.
If the state and national party committees are allowed to act with total disregard and deny duly elected delegates their seats when those delegates are Ron Paul supporters, what makes you think that they won’t do it to your candidates’ supporters?
Reference Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
Comparing Dietrich Bonhoeffer and the trials and tribulations of his time is like comparing oranges and apples, yes, I read Bonhoeffer as well, he and his ilk were fighting for human rights, not party rights.
“Do what I say or you’re stupid, because I’m gonna get what I want anyway”. Nice philosophy. Surely that’s what will move the country forward. I suggest a new name for that: Bullyism.
And last time I checked, a Convention is supposed to be a Convention, not a Coronation.
Yup
Hey, wake up! You can stop practicing the mantra, reason and excuse for the mind-fogging chant We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhooooommm! Vote totals don’t matter during an election because ‘we’re voting to beat Obama!’ Ahhhoooommm!” for a few minutes and actually get yourself an education that the bought and paid for media, Romney and the RNC emails WON’T TELL YOU!
Start with these:
“Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?”
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
and in the first one, you’ll see WHY Romney WILL LOSE come Nov. You don’t treat ALL GRASSROOTS Rep ACTIVISTS as if they’re nothing and essentially say to them “F off! We only need your vote and money!” and NOT expect to have it bite you in your backside come Nov.
You MUST be one of Charlie’s Devils!
Well put
Has this issue become your life’s work?
Where is the dislike button for (SurelyYeJest’s) comment?.. I bet that button would have more supporters than mitt Romney ;) he doesn’t even have a clue about what is going on.
It’s always Charlies way or the highway…..all of this ranting for what? To get behind someone you didn’t want to, to begin with.
The Tea Party represents the kind of extremism commonly seen in a country when its economy tanks. It’s simple group psychology, but unfortunately the fanatics never see it that way, and push their ideology with deaf ears and zero capacity to compromise.
Let me guess, public education? That equates to no education as shown by your post. The Tea Party wants less Federal government, less spending, less debt and a restoration of the rights under the Constitution. Do some reading and find out about the Constitution you will be shocked at what it contains.
It is the rich people who want less taxes and control with their lobbyists. They do not care about you or me. We will stomp them down along with their arrogance. This is not how our country was built.
You are NOT going to “stomp them down along with their arrogance”, ever. Not now, not tomorrow, not EVER. And don’t EVER forget that.
huh?
Unfortunately, you are entirely right. The “not so rich” folks are the primary targets because they can’t escape so easily to another country. The very rich folks can take their money and leave the USA when the “stomping down” starts. Things have changed a lot since the days when commies won revolutions and confiscated the wealth.
I’m not rich and I want less government, less spending, less debt and a restoration of the rights contained in our Constitution. I say lets beat you to the punch and take bastards out first.
Amen! And thanks to a logical thinking american!
“If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consildate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism is no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, the perfect tool of power-seeking meglomaniacs.
Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is NOT the movement of the downtrodden masses but of the economic elite.”
-Gary Allen, Author
“The Money Masters,” you-tube
And it ISN’T just the Reps that are RICH! Think about THAT for awhile! You think you’re doing someone a favor by TAXING money away from them, even those you’re ‘supposed” to be helping and it ALL ends up in the hands of millionaires who decide whether or not those who earned it “deserve” to keep it or ANY of it! Who exactly is THAT helping and what kind of twisted thinking is it that comes up with the “great” idea of putting as many people, organizations and govt. laws between a person, their paychecks and THEIR property is “the way to run a ‘fair’ govt.”?
All you do is MANDATE that everyone has to SEND THEIR MONEY TO THE MILLIONAIRES in govt. and their billionaire friends to use to ENRICH themselves as they ENSLAVE you through the income tax and debt!
Watch “The American Dream By The Provocateur Network” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU&context=C47ae2c6ADvjVQa1PpcFOZUNaD0spl7PBq6tvmLhDgCqTGw4iLYDM= to get a clue of what is wrong with the system, why there is so much debt, poverty, etc. and an idea on HOW to fix it! Begging govt. for more “help” is like slaves going to their masters and saying please enslave us more but feed us, “protect us”, etc. without ever thinking “I don’t have to be a slave to these people!”
The economy is tanking because of socialism, especially corporate socialism, which are extreme ideas in the USA.
So good to hear USA instead of the Homeland/Fatherland.
No, the economy is tanking thanks to the Federal Reserve’s monkeying with the system! THAT is what is wrong with our economy and the Fed is going to devalue our currency another 30% in the next few years! NOW, our currency has been devalued 93% as it is!
Please, for the love of your country, learn what is wrong with the Federal Reserve and it’s phony money, fractional reserve system!
Watch “The American Dream By The Provocateur Network” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU&context=C47ae2c6ADvjVQa1PpcFOZUNaD0spl7PBq6tvmLhDgCqTGw4iLYDM=
or if you prefer, I can point you to a 3 hr. historical documentary!
I agree, and it is because of the federal reserve that our government has been allowed to grow so large, and to enter into so many wars. I believe Ron Paul warned about this in the early 70’s and no one listened to him because he’s such a kook I guess. Sadly it will all come crashing down at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obz1OeUMdqU
Hey, When they are all lining up to jump off the cliff, the one going the other way always looks crazy. .. State committee votes to uphold the ideals of party platform. What a novel idea!
The tea dippers are as mixed up as the party they took over. Too much time talking to chairs.
Like Clint Eastwood at the convention; talking to a chair as if it was Obama. How bizarre with really mean comments. Where has our public decency gone?
I took that as a message that Obama is an empty suit.
And you would be absolutely correct!
And Poor Clint May have Gone Senile?
Lets not forget the Crystler add,
Classic Clint , In a Fistful of Dollars pitting one against the other and running with the Money!
It’s Half Time America!
And you never caught on!
Say what?
You must have written this after your third martini!
I’m not sure how, but you seem to be confusing the Tea Party with the Liberty Movement. While there is some intersection, if you do your homework, you’ll find that much of the Tea Party movement cannot stand the thought of Ron Paul running. And many in the Liberty Movement (myself included) want nothing to do with the Tea Party.
Hard to do your homework when the books are hidden, like Romney and Ryan’s tax returns.
Do you publish your tax returns?
The ability and willingness to so completely subvert the democratic process by the Romney machine should be a red flag for everyone to consider.
Your logic is upside down!
The Ron Paul crowd tried a coup at each level of the process. They succeeded up to a point by breaking every rule in the process. Now they are crying that they really didn’t win the whole banana!
Get over it! Either go home or get on board and try to beat the worst threat to the republic in this century!
The Paulicrats thought they had a movement going, but it was just some gas.
Enough of one that Charlie Webster had to CHEAT for the RNC just like they did in EVERY state. Gee, you thought Romney was the “front runner” because of his “huge” 200-300 crowds at his rallies, most of them PAID to be there from off the street, yet Ron Paul had NO PROBLEM filling auditoriums and stadiums with THOUSANDS. Didn’t see it, did ya, and yet you believed EVERYTHING the media put out to you as they were counting on your gullibility. Want to see PROOF? Tell me who you think had a movement and who had “lovers” in the media for him INSTEAD of a movement? Don’t worry! The video is ONLY a couple of minutes and you can go back to the mind-fogging mantra practice: “We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhooooommm! Character doesn’t matter! We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhooommm! Vote totals don’t matter during an election when ‘we’re voting to beat Obama!'”, etc.
Mitt Romney Rallies vs. Ron Paul Rallies 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kql7rMrRGxo
and to see what kind of FRAUD and election rigging it took to FINALLY get “anyone but Obama and Ron Paul” to “win”:
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
Here you go again! Please, please! Crawl into your bed in the asylum and go to sleep!
“She worried that the backlash against her and Cianchette for filing the challenge to what happened at the state convention signals a shift to a more rigid interpretation of “party unity” to one in which supporters of candidates who don’t prevail will turn on candidates who do.”
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Um, Ms Staples that is EXACTLY what YOU did!. Here in Maine Ron Paul won handily at the state convention and just because your side did not prevail you turned on the candidate that did.
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The fact that the RNC decided to become coconspiractors in your efforts to seize delegates your candidate DID NOT WIN, does not make your actions any less wrong. In fact that just multiplied them.
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Hopefully this will result in you never holding any position of authority in the Republican party in Maine EVER again.
Excellent point that I wish to repeat: ron paul DID NOT WIN! Get over it and come back to earth.
In Maine Ron Paul DID win the only binding vote held.
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Get over it your self.
Actually the vote totals in Maine are not fully counted. So we do not know who won what. Obviously from the delegate turnout Ron Paul did win. So, of the counties not counted yet who won? Can you answer or are you just a shill for Romney?
AMEN
As I interpret it, that’s less voters for Romney. Hooray!
Lawless law makers just doin’ lawlessnes is all about,,, those who make the rules don’t want / need to follow what they preach as in ” Do as I say but don’t do and I do” :-/
Charlie must go
The National GOP is lying to EVERYONE, even their own Maine GOP…
They are EVIL….
Yes indeed.
My! What a well thought, objective, scholarly post – NOT!
Wow! That just goes to prove how wrong the paul backers are, when they have someone who makes a moronic comment like yours. Talk about EVIL…………
You lost. Go home. See you in four years when Ron Paul and Angus King are getting around in scooters.
Grow up and at least ACT like you have a character! Want to LEARN what is screwed up with the way they ran the election AND convention or are you like the typical, mind-fogged, mantra entranced “We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhooooommm!” Romzombie that DOESN’T WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING because, apparently, Romney/RNC emails and their bought and paid for media TELL you “all you need to know”?
Start clicking and learning IF you have the guts!
(BTW, YOU ALL CHEATED! Feel “patriotic” and have a case of the “warm, safe, ignorance is bliss,” fuzzies, do ya?)
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
We get it.
We have had enough of your cutting and pasting! Please! Please! drink a beer, drink a martini or pop another drug of your choice and go to bed!
Just because Maine is under a GOP Tyrant for Governor it doesn’t mean that the People of Maine will take it lying down! I’m proud of the Ron Paul supporters and the supporters of President of Barack Obama! The present day GOP has become the Party of Opportunists who will take any advantage any devious way they can no matter how Main Street Maine suffers!
Supporter of Obama, what a mess there. I hear some Paul supporters are not going to vote this year. All that does is support Obama, not much difference then, if they voted for Obama.
You’re living in a dream world if you think that the grassroots activists who have essentially been told “F off! We only want your money and vote, NOTHING else!,” p-ss off millions of us in doing so and expect to win in Nov. after the treatment they received at the hands of the RNC especially since the Dems and Independents VASTLY OUTNUMBER the Reps and it is those demographics as well as military, Libertarians, etc. who WOULD HAVE voted RNC for Ron Paul are told “shove off! and treated like dogs, while being cheated by PRE-SCRIPTED voice vote results! You don’t treat people like that and expect them to vote for you! It’s NOT going to happen!
The RNC just shot itself in the foot and THEN volunteered for hanging by what they did in Tampa and what MILLIONS of people across the country and around the world have WITNESSED!
Remember Maine? WE WILL REMEMBER COME NOVEMBER!
Remember also that the Maine Republican comm. is top heavy with Paul supporters. The caucus was a fiasco. I am an independent and also watched childish antics on what was happening. Showing the country, with closepins on their noses. Pre-scripted, from what I heard and seen the Paul supporters did a good job of that themselves. You should not behave like children either. If it could of been done the State should of re-did there caucus fairly.
Cool. On “You should not behave like children either. If it could of been done the State should of re-did there caucus fairly.”
That is BS! Why?This is how their election went! They stopped the election with ONLY 84% of the precincts reporting and ONLY 194 votes separating Ron Paul from Romney with well-known Ron Paul disctricts being denied their right to vote so that Romney would “win” meaning Ron Paul DESERVED the delegates he had because of the rigged results yet, their help in the establishment’s RNC decided that they were going to throw out the results and give Romney the win even though they cheated in the election because Ron Paul always had the majority, they purposely CHANGED vote totals during the election with Romney SUPPORTERS the ones answering the calls and totalling the votes (proof on video!), and WORSE! Ron Paul’s Maine delegates DESERVED to be seated and the RNC, as usual, ignored their own rules and created new ones just like they did in Tampa, to try to keep him from getting his required at the time BEFORE the rules changes, five states to be nominated and they didn’t want Romney showed up by having Ron Paul nominated even though he HAD THE REQUIRED states TO BE nominated and then we could have had a floor fight and DECIDE the nominee, which IS the purpose of conventions instead of a WWF “show” in which we “crown our new ‘king!'”
Who is acting like children for FOLLOWING THE RULES and only expecting the RNC to DO THE SAME? Nice double standard you have there!
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
Here you go again! Do you work for a living? Or do you just spend your time posting on various forums?
TIME TO ABANDON THE PARTY SYSTEM AND DRAFT A PERSON OF MERIT. THE PRESIDENCY SHOULD NOT BE BOUGHT OR ASSUMED BY THE DISGRUNTLED VOTER. OUR PARTY SYSTEM IS FAR OUTDATED AND WE NEED TO ADVANCE TO THE CURRENT TIMES. OH YES, WE ALSO NEED A FLAT TAX TO MAKE IT COMPLETE.
Another embarrassment, for our wonderful State.
Really? In what way? The actions of the usurpers you mean?
The Republican meeting was a farce anyways, what a mess. No wonder the Paul supporters were not seated. And for Paul supporters that say they are not voting? That is no different than voting for Obama.
We’re voting just NOT FOR ROMNEY! A vote for Romney IS a vote for Obama! :) That makes as much sense as YOUR ‘we’re voting to beat Obama and if you don’t ‘vote to beat Obama’ you’re voting for Obama” BS! YOU ALL shouldn’t have been so willing and happy to RIG the election and conventions so such a LOUSY candidate as lying, con man, Obama-twin, Romney would “win!” So, you all wanted him, cheated to GET HIM and when he LOSES TO OBAMA, you election rigging frauds have NO ONE BUT YOURSELVES TO BLAME!
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?http://www.fox19.com/story/194…
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?http://www.youtube.com/results…
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spread…
Maine vote fraud officialhttp://article.wn.com/view/201…
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?http://www.examiner.com/articl…
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!http://www.ronpaulforums.com/s…
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty trickshttp://www.examiner.com/articl…
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.http://www.dailypaul.com/23264…
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
Amazing Charlie did all the cheating, but things went for Paul. I am an Independent. If the National Convention was rigged, the state Convention was worse.
Amazing! there are a few who will “like” anything, however fraudulent and generated with the help of the Democrat party!
I’m glad to see the fanatical factions are getting in line behind the proper candidates as was expected all along.
Sheep herding services brought to you courtesy the Koch brothers.
What were these nut jobs going to do once they were seated as delegates?
We could have Ron Paul NOMINATED that is what but Romney and the RNC decided they don’t LIKE grassroots activists and told ALL GRASSROOTS activists “F off! We ONLY want your money and vote!” just like any good Stalinist trying to perform a “party purge” and it will come back to haunt them! Remember Maine? WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
We do not care about you nut jobs. Go away. You have never supported the Republican Party to begin with.
Must be nice to be SLAVE on the DC Plantation!
The Jones Plantation – Government & Populace Relationship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_9wOHyqNos
Good night Irene!
For crying out loud, shut off your duplicating and posting and disappear into the woodwork! No one on this thread wants to hear any more of your fringe element nonsense!
The RNC was right in its decision. As for Pete Harring, he needs to close his mouth to hide his rotten teeth and twisted tongue.
Amen!
Sounds like the Tea Party is pushover. The republican party kicked
them out of the convention, kicked them in the rear and gave tehm lip service and
then the Tea Party rolled over and went out to campaign for the Republicans Party
that will never have them. Ron Paul needs new supporters or the Tea Party should
take their ball and go home.
The Tea party, not these fools in Maine, but on a National level, have put their support behind Romney. This is a whole lot about nothing. Ron Paul was not, and is not qualified to be president. His isolationinst attitude is not going to help this country. Why is this a story? Because the biased BDN has to say something about the bad Republicans.
So we should assume that BDN’s lips will be attached to Obamas butt during this week. Completely ignorring millions out of work, an administration that hates success, business, and energy independence. Just vote for the amateur again. We don’t care if he is unqualified, arrogant, or legal. He’s a Democrat. That seems to be the way it is up here. Thats why creeps like Martin have flourished in this crooked little state.
Amen!
how many were flatlanders?
Who cares what the Ron Paul people do or say any more? See you in 4 years. Unfortunately.
Oh, another “Character or vote totals don’t matter! We’re voting to beat” chanter and Romzombie!
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
WAA WAA!!! LOL LOL LOL you need to get a life. How are you going to get through the next 4 years?
Better off than you.
Want to bet?
Sore losers will use anything to prove their cause – including the use of postings by the enemies of the party and the republic. You lost! Go home drink an extra beer (or a martini) and get over it!
What part of: Ron Paul sold his own supporters out do Ron Paul supporters not get. Ron Paul made an agreement with the RNC to drop his protest over delegates provided he had a tribute to him by the RNC and his son got to address the convention. His campaign this year was about position Rand Paul for a future run at the office and not about his run. His supporters would be wise to help unify the Republicans and nit continue to fracture the party or we as a country are in for four more years of the current policies.
Do NOT make up false stories, which you are. I will NOT be Voting for Romney. He wants conflicts with Russian and China, forget that bs and he wants wars to appease his unscrupulous illegal Israeli Govt donors, no way Jose. He’d be the same as another Bush, continuing that agenda against the peoples will.
I do NOT support the republican party anymore. I’ll now be Voting Independent, or Libertarian. What the RNC did to Ron Paul was despicable.
I’m going to see the Obama movie tomorrow “2016: Obama’s America” can’t wait, heard it’s very good and insightful and got standing ovations, whether you’re republican or democrat, etc.
If you are an Obama fan, you won’t like the movie 2016!
You need to go back and research the national stories about the convention. CNN reported that a deal was brokered with all the Paul delegates but Maines. I am not making it up. Here is one link: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/paul-and-republican-party-officials-reach-deal-on-delegates/ and here is another http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/21/ron-paul-delegates-set-to-strike-deal-with-rnc/comment-page-1/
BS! He was offered a speaking slot IF the RNC could play “first amendment” censors and ONLY ALLOW what THEY WANTED ALLOWED to be said and he told the Stalinist censors “NO!”
Get your facts straight!
LEARN something for once!
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
Sore losers will use anything to prove their cause – including the use of postings by the enemies of the party and the republic. You lost! Go home drink an extra beer (or a martini) and get over it!
The patriots in Maine are impressive.
It would be one thing if Romney had won Maine fair and square, but to have to break your own party rules, change rules midstream, to call it a “win”, well, that is really very lame. I’m a lifelong Republican who has been following this election pretty closely and the despicable behavior on the part of much of the GOP leadership will ultimately hurt not only the party but the nation.
There have often been fringe candidates (like Ron Paul) who have no chance whatever of achieving a national nomination. Often it is an exercise in ego! The Ron Paul contingent hijacked the state convention with an ill-advised, but seemingly well executed coup. The national committee (that had the interest of the national party at heart) called their actions what they were – inappropriate and out-of order actions!
The Maine Republican party should now start to ensure that no fringe group can repeat the actions of this year.
First on the agenda should be abolish the antiquated caucus system and move to a primary to elect the delegates to the national convention. Second should be to arrange a better way (an internal party primary perhaps) to select the officials who govern the party in Maine. These two actions will put the people in charge. Not a fringe group of wing-nuts who have dreams of grandeur, but not a snowballs chance of ever reaching the national level goal!
Your ideas would eliminate any say the average person has and grant full veto power to the rich and well connected. The caucus system was set up so that the minority groups would have their ideas heard. That is not a bad thing, even if a little inconvenient for the sheep followers.
To be heard is one thing. To try to subvert the system and override the will of the majority is a very different objective! The Paul entity tried a coup and succeeded up to a point, but were eventually thwarted! Give it up! Either get back into the party and try to defeat the worst threat to our republic in our lifetime or disappear into the past like so many such fringe efforts of the past!
BS! You must be another mind-fogged, mantra chanting “We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhoooommm! Vote totals don’t matter during an election! We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhoooommm! Character doesn’t matter! We’re voting to beat Obama! Ahhhooooommm!” Romzombie to beleive such “bull fertilizer” as your trying to shovel out!
Isn’t it about time you get an education and learn what REALLY happened?
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
The lunatic fringe is surely active. . .
“Wow! So Deep! So thoughtful, insightful and full of wisdom that Socrates and Solomon would be ashamed and bow their heads in your presence! Please, tell us, oh wise one, on what do you base your decisions since I BET YOU NEVER EVEN LOOKED AT ONE SINGLE LINK and you’re doing EXACTLY what any Romzombie of the “holey” diapers CULT ‘true believe’ do whenever they are confronted with what could be their faith shattering truth; Call names, say as little as possible and RUN LIKE HELL!
Now, how about NEXT time, you come back and try a to, maybe, post your reasoning and why you THINK/BELIEVE that there was NO CHEATING when I KNOW there WAS? Think you can do THAT, sport? Or do you have to ask Romney and the RNC for “party permission”?
I could easily picture you goose-stepping, fighting and dying for Lord and Tsar Romney and his “THE party” just like any Stalinist dictator and thinking yourself a “genius”!
Please! I suggest you spend your time decorating your room in the asylum! I do not want to waste time communicating with a fringe element lunatic!
If anything good comes from this shameful situation it certainly shows the world once again how the big money people who run the Republican party operate — not that most everyone
didn’t already know it. “I’m the big kid on the block and I’m going to go anywhere in the world I want and I’m going to do anything I want and I’m going to take anything I want.”
Ryan gave us a good example of this New-Age-Republican way of thinking when he had a man who spoke out at his meeting thrown to the ground, handcuffed, and dragged off. These clips are seen by people all over the world and remind a few of us older folks of a man in Europe who became quite well-known for doing the exact same thing. How many more points Ryan would have made and how easily he could have defused the situation had he invited his detractor up to the mike to blow off some steam.
But that’s not the way present day Republicans operate.
What harm would it have done to have seated all of Maine’s elected delegates? They would have been quickly and easily silenced and it wouldn’t have changed a thing. — Except that people
would have to agree that we are still living in a land where all the votes are counted.
If anything bad comes of all this it has certainly convinced many people who don’t trust our present system that they were right.
The humble Farmer
OK, “Humble Farmer.” Easy on the “One Man In Europe” references, regarding your “POINT” about an individual removed from a Ryan Speech. Just to clarify, the quote starting with, “I’m the big kid on the block…” was the battle cry of “Colonialism of India” brought to you by the British. Clever, but not quite!
Can you explain this? Why does every Liberal Anti-Everything that is American news out-let have a “Go To English” correspondent to “enlighten” us about the state of our nation. Speaking of the “One Man In Europe…” my Irish family kissed the shores of the United States before England chased them down like a pack of dogs.
This is another “Write-In” Presidential Vote. D.C. is a Joke.
Spoken mike a bide in the wool democrat!
“… many members of a new wave of Maine conservatives motivated by Paul and
tea party principles to become active in the Republican party seem
inclined to stick with the GOP after being angered and frustrated by the
events in Tampa last week”. Says who? The reporter? I for one can attest to the fact that many “old wave” republicans who were shafted by their own party and had their votes thrown out and their delegates not seated will definitely NOT stick with the GOP!!!
And a dumb *ssed move it will be!
I for one, am proud to be a member of the “……..party of moderates Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and William Cohen…..” this country needs more politicians like them
Ron Paul supporters are not going to like the position they are putting themselves in.
You’re not going to like LOSING TO OBAMA AGAIN because you had a LOUSY, lying, con-artist, Obama-lite, candidate with more dollars than sense who had to have the entire election and convention process RIGGED so he could “win”!
Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
RealityCheck Was there election fraud in Maine?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&oq=RealityCheck+Was+there+election+fraud+in+Maine%3F&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3…6435532.6435532.0.6438231.1.1.0.0.0.0.655.655.5-1.1.0…0.0…1ac.rdKcNZ8qsu8
Maddow: Proof Ron Paul Was Robbed In Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA&feature=related
Ron Paul Robbed by SPAM, Maine GOP Chairman Claims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrUvtSwd1A
“Maine Caucus IM NOT WITH WATCH THE VOTE” for mathematical analysis showing vote flipping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1
Maine vote fraud official
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/22/Maine_vote_fraud_official/
Maine GOP to pull election scam at state convention?
http://www.examiner.com/article/maine-gop-to-pull-election-shenanigans-at-state-convention
Will the real “Charlie Cheater” please step forward? Why, thank you!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?376074-Will-the-real-quot-Charlie-Cheater-quot-please-step-forward-Why-thank-you!
Romney employees masterminded Maine GOP convention dirty tricks
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-employees-masterminded-maine-gop-convention-dirty-tricks?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Charlie Cheater: all relevant data found so far.
http://www.dailypaul.com/232642/charlie-cheater-all-relevant-data-found-so-far
And THAT doesn’t even begin to cover it all…. about 8 million MORE for JUST Maine alone!
Wake-Up Call:
1) A write-in vote at this point is as good as a vote for Obama….!
2) I would have supported Ron Paul “if” he was the pick of the GOP, but he wasn’t- get over it, unfortunately its Romney
I have no love for Romney, and your right, he’s just another version of Obama, but with one major twist, he is “Not” a greenie liberal. While it’s true, he totally boned MA on the 2nd Amendment,,,,, he won’t be handing Northern Maine over to Quimby.
FYI- Ron Paul could have gained massive and sweeping Maine support, including LePage & Webster,,,, “”IF”” he would have openly denounced the Obama supported Quimby National Park— But He Refused…!
At this point, I will be backing the best chance to get rid of Obama, and love it or not that’s Romney
*One more thing, Charlie Webster is a good guy, and has worked very hard to help Maine Republicans- a lot more than those that trash him…!
Don’t I love politics and the way it makes fools of people. Really made Maine look good at the convention,,,not!
what this is all about is Lepage
i dont like any of the candidates obama romney any of them they are no good
If it were about, as Jan Staples tries to convince us, “about preserving the integrity of the process,” the 100% non-Ron Paul Republicans who were responsible for the chaos and those Romney supporters who left the convention early specifically to try to thwart a quorum would have been penalized. As it turns out, they were rewarded. I repeat: Not one single Ron Paul supporter was involved in the credentialing, the delay in calling the convention to order, or the challenging of each and every vote cast (thank you Ben Ginsberg and Mr. Romney).
No. Those were, each and every one of them, Charlie Webster and his band of merry Romney supporters.
The majority of those who went to the convention and bothered to stay there voted for the national delegates, including the Governor, many legislators, and even Charlie Webster, admit that the vote was fair. Mr. Webster admits it was not the Ron Paul supporters’ fault, as they were shut out of the process since February when their straw poll results ended up “lost in spam filters” and he declared publicly that he considers them “wing nuts.”
The actions of Jan and Peter were the opposite of party unity and the repercussions of their actions will echo in state elections for a long time to come.
Please quit showing pictures of that man. He makes republicans look bad. We are not all creepers.
Obama hates Maine because of lepages comments
Now Romney hates Maine because of Republicans tried to crash his party
MAINE IS GETTING NOTHING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHOEVER WINS
Ummmmm Maine ‘hates’ LePage because of LePage’s inane comments……Obama and Mitt Witt can get in line with everyone else here who can’t stand LePage and his obvious lack of couth, decorum and leadership abilities.
is that a bum that sneaked into the convention?
I am a ron paul believer. There is no way that I would not vote for a Republican over a SOCIALIST DEM. Though, ideally the Republican don’t reflect everything a Paul supporter wants. There is no way we have any shared values with DEMS…………thats a fact.
The people in Jim Jones colony were believers also – until they drank the coolaide!
the Revolution is on
“She worried that the backlash against her and Cianchette for filing the challenge to what happened at the state convention signals a shift to a more rigid interpretation of “party unity” to one in which supporters of candidates who don’t prevail will turn on candidates who do.”
The little stupid, lying hypocrite! THAT is exactly what SHE SUPPORTED in Tampa AGAINST RON PAUL and HIS SUPPORTERS!
See for yourselves! Search for “Reality Check: RNC rule change starting a Republican civil war?”
http://www.fox19.com/story/19423487/reality-check-rnc-rule-change-starting-a-republican-civil-war
The nut fringe carries on!
Get over it! All this did was split the vote and yep let’s have the same mess we have folks, no jobs, no economy, no budget and so we fight amongst ourselves and thence what’s presently in DC we will have another 4 yrs just because we couldn’t have our way
Do the ron paul backers in Maine realize that there are Republicans who simply want nothing to do with ron paul’s thinking? We do not want him seated in any capacity whatsoever. The Tea Party has gone too far left after having had a measure of success in this Nation, but are blowing that big time, their heads got too big and began changing for the good of a few.
Wow get off Foxnews and take a mass media pill.
Go to bed Will!
The Ron Paul backers acting like brats? WATCH THIS VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obz1OeUMdqU
this is what they witnessed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obz1OeUMdqU
Hats off to Ron Paul supporters, at least they realize how completely corrupt the party that was once called/considered Republican has become. It is a good move for Paul supporters to separate themselves from “The American Taliban.”
Yes, but will the Ron Paul supporters catch a clue and NOT vote for Mitt Witt? Probably not…
Not is most likely correct.
I think we all should start thinking about the fact that either party can fix the issues that we face. As long as we have a system where one party is capable of completely obstructing the other we will never have a functioning government. The Republicans have perfected this debilitating method of obstruction and are eager to shows us how efficient a Plutocratic form of government can be in replacing the two party system.
I agree….Theocratic government is more what the Tea and Crackers sheeple are looking for.
Today’s Republicans and integrity do not belong in the same sentence.
Agree, it’s an Oxymoron…
Kind of like using the terms Democrat, honesty, and balanced budget in the same sentence.
You are kidding right????…….GOP is the poster child for dishonesty and distortion ( did you not hear Ryan’s speech??) and it’s hard to balance a budget when the Tea Party and Cracker obstructionist block any type of bill presented to them and let’s not forget what Bush II inherited for a surplus and then began 2 UNFUNDED wars…….so clearly this is the Democrats fault- bahahahahahahahahah
Harry Reid has blocked more bills than anyone.
Close Gitmo?
No budget in 6 years?
16 trillion in debt, most from the last 4 years.
Millions out of work.
Remember 911?
Obamacare, vote on it before we know whats in it.
Really? Do some homework and get away from the democrat ideology.
Harry Reid cannot block a bill all by his lonesome- so try again.
911- was under Bush II and we went ‘after’ Iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction- Oh wait no they didn’t have WMD’s and come to find out they had NOTHING to do with 911. Duh.
Afghanistan- another Bush II disaster….why have 1 war when you can have 2?? Well at least Bush II made sure Osama Bin Laden was killed…..oh wait no…that was Obama- go figure.
Close Gitmo- well that would have been fine if Khalid Sheik Mohammed and his 4 buddies were to be tried in American Federal court- but that wasn’t the case they are being tried by the Defense Department. Do you not remember the crap fit people had when all these detainees were going to be transfered to US soil? That certainly wouldn’t have made the US a even bigger target right? RIGHT. So where do you suggest we put these fine detainees?
Millions out of work- shall I cite all the bills the GOP blocked that had to do with the economy- because I most certainly can. Name how many times the GOP has voted on Obama’s job’s bill…..zero.
No budget in 6 years- well Obama has been in office for 4 years…6-4= Bush II….let’s start where the problem began shall we?
Obamacare- has been ‘blocked’ by the GOP 33 times what they haven’t had time to read it yet? What a ridiculous waste of time and money…maybe they can ‘block’ Roe v. Wade as well. Pathetic.
Filibusters- The GOP senate has had 241 of them. Bills that would have been passed by a simple majority vote were filibustered and were not allowed to be voted on. Need to me to give you some examples because I can.
Bush II inherited a 140,000,000,000 surplus from Clinton and then handed Obama a 10,600,000,000,000 deficit DO THE MATH.
None of this has to do with ideology it has to do with those pesky things like FACTS and STATISTICS.
In your dreams, or should I say fantasy!
I love how you Tea and Cracker folks call FACTS fantasies…..yet offer no FACTS of your own to refute anything stated….sounds about right….lies, lies and more lies….because we all know if the right says a lie often enough it becomes a fact especially for those too lazy to actually look into your ‘facts.’
necader,
The world began long before the election in 2008. Turn the pages back to the time before Bush. We had prosperity, fairer tax policy, and a huge budget surplus. You should not ask someone to do homework unless you lead by example.
We did use Democrat and balanced budget in the same sentence, honestly. Remember the budget surpluses? Remember tax cuts, unfunded and necessary wars, and out of control spending under Bush?
4 words for these idiots. Sit down and shut up. Enough of the stupidity.
Another neocon voter. I will pray for you and your socialist behavior.
Will:
Enough already! Have another martini and go to bed!
Ron Paul would have been a legitimate candidate if he had any foreign policy – I mean something – the world is too crazy for a true isolationist approach. He believes that states have a right to make their own laws on abortion, gay marriage, drug use, and prostitution. This is libertarian and liberal thinking but not the markings of a conservative. Libertarians do not belong in the GOP – they share the far left of social thinking combined with *some* sound ideas on limited government. Associating Ron Paul with the TEA Party bothers me – the Tea Party was initially compromised of paleoconservatives like myself who want limited government – hence TEA (Taxed Enough Already). Big government Republicans and big government Democrats should form their own party – people like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins have been reelected so many times because they simply are Democrats wearing an R in Maine.
The Maine GOP has plenty of issues – but throwing a hissy fit every week after the primary just makes someone look like a kook. Unfortunately, Ron Paul has already come off as the crazy uncle people are embarrassed by with his outbursts and pictures of him riding his little bicycle. I am not “excited” about Mitt Romney and see him as the lesser of two evils – but so it has always been with the GOP verses the Democrat candidate. Nothing about Ron Paul screams Presidential – he has some great fiscal ideas and would do well in the Treasury cleaning house – but he is still a poor candidate.
Well said sir.
This country was founded on state rights. Government was never suppose to be involved in social decisions. The founding fathers left that to the states and the vote of the people in that state. Your personal beliefs were not to be part of government. That is why people like you are a failure to are system. You are judging other people which also makes you a hypocrite. The lesser of 2 evils argument is your whimpy way of saying I give up on this republic. Are country is falling apart because of people like you.
Will:
I sure as heck hope you drive your Porsche better than you express your political feelings! Otherwise I would not want to be on the same road with you!
So, Maine republicans had enough guts to replace their elected officials for the decisions they deemed inappropriate. Sounds like a good news to me.
As for the luck of attention to the Staple’s speech, in a free society, a speaker cannot demand attention but only ask for it and receives it only if he or she is sufficiently respected by the audience.
Only in a totalitarian society are people required to listen to speeches of their leader (which, in such society is sometimes called Fuehrer).
If you refuse to grant others the courtesy of a fair hearing on their points why should we bother to listen to yours?
I do like Romney’s business experience, but his Gordon Gecko-esque tenure at
Bain Capital concerns me. I also have a problem with him calling himself pro-life. In fact, Romneycare provided for taxpayer funded abortifacients
(Pharmaceuticals that cause spontaneous abortion) How many catholics know this?
He also is continually calling himself a christian to gain votes, when most of us learned in Sunday school that this is not the case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGFAph3lWqw
It’s time to move on. We did not move in the detection that we felt we needed to go this time, but there will be another and we will be there.