BANGOR, Maine — Five of the six candidates for Maine’s open U.S. Senate seat sparred over solutions for ending Washington’s polarized atmosphere, raising taxes as part of balancing the federal budget, reforming financing for federal campaigns and a range of other topics Wednesday night during a debate sponsored by the Bangor Region Chamber of Commerce.

Democrat Cynthia Dill and Republican Charlie Summers went after their independent rival, Angus King, questioning his independence and whether the Senate needs an independent to function more effectively. King said the partisan approach hasn’t worked.

“We don’t need an independent in the Senate,” said Summers, Maine’s Secretary of State. “We don’t need an umpire. Umpires don’t win ball games. Winners stand for something.”

“Being independent doesn’t mean anything other than you haven’t subscribed to a set of values,” said Dill, a state senator from Cape Elizabeth. “That doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to be more productive, that you’re going to bring anything new to the U.S. Senate. It just means you’re uncommitted.”

But nothing has been accomplished in a polarized, partisan atmosphere, said King, who hasn’t said whether he would caucus with Senate Democrats or Republicans. “If something isn’t working, doing the same thing harder isn’t going to get a result,” he said.

The two lesser-known independent candidates who participated, Andrew Ian Dodge and Steve Woods, went after their three better-known rivals.

Dodge questioned whether King was independent, because he has raised money from lobbyists. It’s tough to remain independent “once you’ve taken their dirty dollar,” he said. Woods criticized Summers and Dill for their frequent mentions of experience running small businesses.

“If I hear Cynthia or Secretary of State Summers talk anymore about small business, I might jump out of my seat,” said Woods, who owns TideSmart Global, a collective of six marketing businesses in Falmouth. “I have paid more taxes in the past than I believe any of the candidates combined. I worked hard. I’ve built something.”

Wednesday’s debate hit upon a number of similar themes, from economic development to regulations on small businesses to the influence of outside money in this fall’s campaign.

During a discussion about energy, Summers repeated a charge he has levied against King recently. Summers said the former governor is aggressively promoting natural gas because he sits on the board of an engineering company, Woodard and Curran, that has natural gas interests.

“That is absolutely untrue,” King said. Just 2 percent of Woodard and Curran’s revenues are related to oil and gas work, he said, adding that his natural gas advocacy isn’t at all connected to his board position.

Candidates also talked about reining in the nation’s $16 trillion federal debt.

“The first thing we have to do is get our debt under control, get our spending under control and allow our businesses to grow our way out of this economy,” Summers said.

Dodge, however, criticized Summers for not offering specific proposals for budget cuts. “You’ve got to offer up to the voters what you’ll cut,” he said. “Name me something. We’ve got the Senate and House spending like Paris Hilton on a bender.”

When asked, Summers said he wouldn’t consider tax increases as a part of a proposal to balance the federal budget. “I would agree that we need additional revenues,” he said. “The way we get those revenues is not by raising taxes.”

King called for “a combination of revenues, growth and cuts.” Dill said the United States “can’t afford additional tax cuts. We need tax reform that’s going to benefit working families.”

Dill also said she opposes the Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction plan, citing its recommendations for cuts to Social Security, Medicare and public broadcasting.

Asked about the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court that has opened the doors to about $5 million in advertising spending so far from outside groups, King, Dill and Woods said they opposed it while Summers defended it. Dodge said he supported stricter disclosure requirements on outside spending.

King called Citizens United “the worst decision by the United States Supreme Court in at least 100 years.”

Summers said a discussion about Citizens United is a discussion about free speech rights. “We’re talking about the most important right we have,” he said, “and that is the right of free speech.”

Summers also accused King of accepting the deep-pocketed support of New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg — who on Tuesday hosted a fundraiser for King, has contributed to a third-party campaign to boost King by the nonprofit group Americans Elect and is now starting a super PAC to support King and other candidates — and for running negative ads.

Summers has benefited from more than $3 million in spending on ads from Republican-affiliated groups that attack King, who disputed Summers’ negative ad charge.

“I did an ad and said, ‘Here are the differences between me and Charlie,’” he said. “To be called a negative ad by Charlie is like being called ugly by a toad.”

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  1. I was at this debate.  King clearly came off as the Statesman in the lineup.  Have to say that I really enjoyed hearing from businessman Woods.  Dill comes off as an overeager high school debater.  Dodge provided comic relief.  But Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.  Trying to assert that Angus was the only one benefitting from PAC money made the audience Laugh Out Loud – at him, not with him.  Then he tried to defend Citizens United.  Wow.  As my kids would say, “Epic Fail.”

      1.  Very unfair to persons who, after being lobomized, are still livelier and more interesting than Summers. 

      1. When both the far left and the far right accuse King of being a shill for the other side it just reenforces the fact that he is a centrist independent.

        1.  I don’t think King has ever been accused of being right leaning.  Just the fact that Bloomberg is involved in his campaign should be a sign of things to come with him.

          1. King vetoed an increase to the minimum wage as governor and frequently  sided with businesses against what the Democrats wanted. They claimed he was in the pockets of business.
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            Notice the attacks at this debate came from both Dill and Summers.

  2. What a treat. A panel made up of people from away telling us how we have it all wrong up here. It should bother every single Mainer that there were no natives on that stage. But alas, it doesn’t. Just be good sheep and get in the Democratic or Republican pen and stand by for your shearing. BAAAH!

    1. You have “a voice.”  Step out of “the crowd” and run yourself.  

      That was one of the good points Woods made.  Not enough citizens are willing to step up.  Unfortunately, another side effect of the hyper-negative PAC ads will be to further discourage people from stepping up.  Who wants to subject themselves to that garbage?

    2. “Native” is overrated. Famous Californians Ronald Reagan and Walt Disney were born in Illinois. Famous New Yorker Nelson Rockefeller was born in Maine. Where you decide to spend your life is more important than where you happened to be born. Otherwise most of us would still be in Europe.
        

    3. Actually that is not really true. I come from a long line of  Mainers, including my father,  on both sides of my family. My grand-father Dodge was a lobsterman & master boatbuilder in the Boothbay Region. The coastal Dodges have been in Maine since before the Revolution.  Sure I wasn’t born here (my father had to leave Maine to pursue his chosen profession) but I am sure more a Mainer than any of the rest of them. I have been in Maine most of my life one way or other. And, of course, I went to Colby College.

      1. You are a summer Mainer. I guess that is close enough to a native. I look for a native in the pack in hopes that they would have some empathy for the “winter Mainers”, like me. I guess actions will speak louder than your place of birth, if elected. Any relation to Marshall Dodge of Bert and I fame?

    4. Don’t tell that to Andrew Ian Dodge; he is very sensitive to being known as a native son…

    5. “from away”…only in Maine, where people are frightened by different ideas.   Perhaps it should bother the “Natives” that no “Native Americans” were on that stage!    

      1. No one in Maine is frightened of different ideas. What we are frightened of is turning our state into North Jersey or North Massachusetts. If you have an idea on how to improve the lot of the average Mainer without compromising our bucolic way of life, we are all ears. If your vision involves strip malls or subdivisions, it will probably fall on deaf ears. Are there any native Americans on any slate? In any race? 

  3. I have no axe to grind with candidate King, I’m sure he’s a decent and honorable man. That being said historically in the U.S. Senate those, who either enter that body, with an (I) beside thier name, or, change their party affiliation to (I) get precious little accomplised. Three names come to mind Bernie Sanders (I) VT  (a blight in the house and Senate). Jim Jeffords (I) VT  Relegated into obscurity after switching party affiliations to (I) 120 days after being elected to his third term as a Republican, being hoodwinked by Chris Dodd. Joe Lieberman (I) CT Discovered being a “back bencher” didn’t allow him the high profile and prestigious committee chairs he was accustomed to having after years of  being a top ranking (D).  Miane has a habit  of sending historical figures to that coveted body, Margaret Chase Smith(R) , Edmond S. Muskie(D),  William S.Cohen (R), George Mitchell (D).  

    This time around let’s send Charle Summers (R).

    1.  Maine voters should send Summers … send him packing that is.
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      He will lose the Senate race and if the state legislature flips to the Democrats, then they will appoint the new Secretary of State, Treasurer and AG.
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      Good-bye Charlie!

    2. I agree Thoughtful. Indendent U.S Senators can be compared to Switzerland,  a neutral country that has no enemies….they also have no friends. Maine needs a Senator that doesn’t have to be reduced to joining forces with the likes of Bernie Sanders

  4. “We don’t need an independent in the Senate,” said Summers, Maine’s
    Secretary of State. “We don’t need an umpire. Umpires don’t win ball
    games. Winners stand for something.”

    Summers suggestion that the US Senate is made up of two teams that play against eachother to try to win a game shows just what is wrong with politics at the national level and just exactly why we need an independent in the Senate.

    1.  Summers’ attitude  is exactly the sort of thing that caused Olympia Snowe to decide not to run again.
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      No wonder she won’t endorse him!

  5. I’ll vote for what ever candidate says, I refuse to allow foriegn Aid to continue under our current debt.

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