WATERVILLE, Maine — The father of a Maine missing toddler took a polygraph test shortly after she disappeared.
But neither Justin DiPietro nor police would say what the results were.
It’s been nearly four weeks since DiPietro reported his daughter, 20-month-old Ayla Reynolds, missing from his Waterville home.
DiPietro told the Morning Sentinel that he doesn’t know how he did on the polygraph test while police say they told him the results.
Stephen McCausland, spokesman for the Department of Public Safety, says he could not say what the results were.
Earlier this week, divers searched a half-mile stretch of an icy river in Waterville without finding any sign of the toddler. Authorities say they’re continuing to aggressively investigate the hundreds of leads that have poured in from across the country.
And why wasn’t this done weeks ago??
“The father of a Maine missing toddler took a polygraph test shortly after she disappeared.” why hasn’t the mother- and has he lied stating that he didn’t know what results were, but yet police told him… hummmmmm- and good question Baybi8eGurl70, why hasn’t the mother had one………
People, read the article. It doesn’t say the mother didn’t take one, only that the father did. She could have taken one and passed. She could have taken one and failed. Lots of ASSumptions going on.
There is no information regarding the mother. Just because there is no information, doesn’t mean that one wasn’t done.
Secondly, lie detector tests are usually conducted on suspects or persons of interest, if the mother has a solid alibi as to her whereabouts, then it would rule her out as a person of interest.
he agreed to take one, so I think he has nothing to hid. And if the mother doesn’t then she should step up to the plate and BEG for one to be done. Plus, we all know that them tests are not 100% correct. Someone who pounds something into their head is gonna believe what they put there- just my intake on it all.
And please notice i said THINK- keep that i n mind plz- TY
Agreed to take one a month after the child was taken — probably more like he was feeling forced into taking it. If he had nothing to hide he would have taken it right away in order to elimanate himself.
Read the FIRST sentence of the article…he took the polygraph “shortly” after Ayla disappeared.
I saw on another site he took it 10 days after he reported her missing.
How do you know that she hasn’t? Look how long it took to reveal that he did. And if he did take one and he passed, as other’s have said, why isn’t he screaming I passed the polygraph? And I guess your opinion on a person of interest, nor mine, really matters.
She in my opinion , is a person ” of interest”
Well, the investigators are the ones with all the information and evidence and they clearly believe otherwise based on all that information. Apparently some locals in Waterville are talking about the father possibly being a low level dealer. Not sure if there is any truth in that as I haven’t seen anything solid…but if that’s true then I’m sure it will come out soon enough.
She wasn’t with the child when she was taken. Ayla was in his house and under his care. Why would she have to take a polygraph? Obviously if there was a possiblity that she was in the Waterville area that night then everyone would already know about it. She probably has a strong witness as to where she was that night.
Does anyone know who she spoke to while doing treatment- the answer is simply- NO- we don’t. just saying.
Have you seen her interviews? Do you really think that she would be capable of masterminding a “break in” to Justin’s house committed by another rehab patient? Then what has she done with Ayla? Do you think she has enough money to keep her in hiding? It doesn’t look like she has much for family that would be capable of hiding her out. I just don’t think she could have carried this off.
Right
that why i stated her talking to- they may have had some experience in all fields, most do- Heck, I would know- got an ex -in-law that a real good con to get what it wants- noticed i said EX too- ty
It would have to be a well experienced “friend” to accomplish this task. Breaking into a house full of people (a very small one story house at that) and taking the child. I seriously don’t think she has friends that would be willing to go to prison for her.
I totally agree… any scenario that involves the mother having anything to do with the disappearance of her daughter is highly, highly unlikely. I have to laugh at any possibility that another rehab patient may have broken into the Justin’s mother’s house while people were home, kidnapped her baby and has been savvy enough to outwit law enforcement and keep the baby in hiding for a month. No one is going to risk prison time for kidnapping as a favor to anyone. I wish that were the case because it would mean a greater possibility that Ayla is safe and unharmed but I doubt it.
Did I say “her” – NO!!!! I said ones she talked to , while in there. And a lot do know the ropes, and with a REWARD now. THINK about it. I just hope that child IS brought back safety- and NOTICE I didn’t say to either of the parents! That’s my thought on it all- and only mine. TY
and if you all think for 1 second that she didn’t discuss any of this – the “bruises and him not letting her talk to the child ,’ while she was in there- your wrong. That’s what they all do is talk about their problems and not just to councilors , the others in there as well. I know for a fact, this is done. Even talked about at AA meetings. How do I know these things , you ask…I’ve been fornate to have to work at one of theses places. What some do and say in them places is unreal.
I think the police are smarter than that. She’s probably been given a polygraph test and maybe a few other people. All would be asked if they knew what happened to Ayla. The police have to consider the possibility that either parent got somebody else to do the kidnapping for them in order to have an alibi.
Read the article, it was done weeks ago.
I read on another news site that it was taken on December 27th…10 days after he reported Ayla missing. If they want to find Ayla they need to get all the cell phone records/pings of Justin and his family and friends all the way back to the day Ayla’s mother last talked to her on the phone. Look at the pings and find out where they all were travelling between that day Trista last talked to Ayla and the time Justin reported her missing. Of course, I’m sure they are doing that already.
Meant why wasnt mother give one weeks ago as well
How do you know she wasn’t?
This article doesn’t say the mother wasn’t given one, does it?
no it doesn’t- none of the articles have stated anything about her taking one- come on BD- feel free to let us in on this one .
“let us in on this one”? The BDN cannot report what the MSP doesn’t release.
Do you really think Waterville’s finest is so incompetent that if daddy failed the test he’d still be free?
I don’t think they can arrest him based on the outcome of a polygraph.
Waterville may not have given him the lie detector test. The State Police more likely would have.
Someone is lying
Someone knows something
The Truth Will Out !
They cannot arrest on the basis of a lie detector, it is used as an investigative tool
They can’t arrest him based on the polygraph.
They can’t arrest him just because he failed a polygraph test, it just means they would investigate him more.
In a word….YES!!!
DiPietro says he doesn’t know the result, while the cops say they told him. What would the cops have to gain by lying about it? If DiPietro had passed one would think he’d be making that fact very well known.
Maybe they told him not to say anything?
This means he failed
There is a reason this information is being released now to the public. Probably a tool to apply pressure to the person the police want to apply pressure too. It is not a coincidience that this is coming out now. The statement released would indicate that the police are lying or that He lied and said he didn’t know because he failed. I don’t think the police are lying…
I think he passed and they want the mother to think he failed so she will think she is in the clear.
Do you think she knows how to read? You might have just given away the plan :-)
This is a woman who said her toddler was her best friend and she told her daughter all of her secrets. she has no boundaries, she’s not the brightest bulb in the box.
no, not too bright
What a stupid Remark.
It also said they did the polygraph shortly after she went missing!! I remember in a statement saying the fater wasn’t a suspect! So wouldn’t that be after the polygraph! I think its the mom and thery’re are trying to string her along to find where she is hiding Ayla! But On one of the mothers comments she said Justin was the last one to see my baby alive!! If one of my children were missing, I’d have so much hope still and would not throw in the alive part!! Just hope they find Ayla! My 3 year old got a baby doll for christmas! When picking a new name for her baby She chose Alya! Then she said “Mommy I promise I wont lose my baby! She asks me everyday if they have found her yet!!
Wow. That’s very sad, and indicative of how this kind of thing affects everyone, even other children who are safe and secure with their families. People, envelope your children in love!!
Does a 3 year old really need to hear all about a child abduction?
Hey Atleast i’m not like Trista and sit there and get drunk and tell my kid all problems! HOwever My daughter seen it on TV and in the paper and YES i did tell her someone took Ayla!!WHen she old enough to ask the question, she old enough for an answer We dont live in a perfect world and atleast she knows that bad things can happen!! We also told her,when her cat got hit by a car!I suppose i should have lied and said it ran away!! Hopefully I raise my kids with good values and when they grow up , they turn into hard working adults! Youd be suprised when i told her about her cat, of course she was sad, as we were but then she replied mom thats why you dont let me play in the road!! 3 years old are smarter than you think!!
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3 years old are smarter than you think!! ”
And very sensitive. I’m sure you are a good mom, and it’s too late now, but I might rethink how much traumatic news you let into her little mind.
They’re are very sensitive, but she also knows that there are strangers and bad people in this world! We can drive by a river and she’ll comment and say she knows she cant go near that without an adult or she could drown!! I much rather have my children aware of the facts! For example they know the oven is hot don’t touch it!! My 9 year old knows about gun safety and that you never play with them!! Sometimes it is better to inform them of what is going on! Our guns all have gun locks/ are locked up and ammunation is all locked up separately! But you never know if a child goes to a friends house!!We taught our oldest daughter never to touch them and only if your with a supervised adult. If your at a friends house and a child is playing to leave and get an adult! Also I didn’t force the info on my daughter she asked why Aylas pic was in the paper and on the TV! And trust me i did sit down and explain it in away for a 3 year old! Still hopingand praying this little girl comes home safe!!
I was thinking that exact same thing Ed.
Seriously? You think the mother had something to do with this? You think that she went to Waterville, broke into her ex-husband’s mother’s house while several people were there, committed a parental abduction and has been smart enough to completely hide the child from law enforcement for a month? Really?
And before you suggest that she had a friend or relative commit all these crimes… let me remind you that if a friend or relative abducted the child the crime is NOW kidnapping which comes with pretty hefty prison time especially if they left the state (FEDERAL). Logically speaking…What friend or relative do you think would do that kind of a “favor” for her and still, after a month, be successfully hiding the child from law enforcement. How many close friends/relatives of hers do you think she has been able to keep the police from finding out about who could pull off a long term disappearance of the child? Or are you suggesting something more sinister… such as the mother broke into this occupied home and killed the baby while everyone was present and no one is talking?
While these scenarios would make for pretty dramatic CSI episodes they are really pretty far fetched and not based in reality. More likely Justin and/or the people who were in his home that night know more than they are saying. I know, it’s a whole lot less drama… but it’s a more likely theory.
Seriously? You think the mother had something to do with this? You think that she went to Waterville, broke into her ex-husband’s mother’s house while several people were there, committed a parental abduction and has been smart enough to completely hide the child from law enforcement for a month? Really?
And before you suggest that she had a friend or relative commit all these crimes… let me remind you that if a friend or relative abducted the child the crime is NOW kidnapping which comes with pretty hefty prison time especially if they left the state (FEDERAL). Logically speaking…What friend or relative do you think would do that kind of a “favor” for her and still, after a month, be successfully hiding the child from law enforcement. How many close friends/relatives of hers do you think she has been able to keep the police from finding out about who could pull off a long term disappearance of the child? Or are you suggesting something more sinister… such as the mother broke into this occupied home and killed the baby while everyone was present and no one is talking?
While these scenarios would make for pretty dramatic CSI episodes they are really pretty far fetched and not based in reality. More likely Justin and/or the people who were in his home that night know more than they are saying. I know, it’s a whole lot less drama… but it’s a more likely theory.
As for the lie detector test… who knows. This story has gone national and I seriously doubt that the police would ask anyone to make themselves appear to be a liar after that happens. They would know that he would be accused and hounded by millions of tv viewers because this thing is being covered by every television station and analyzed by people like Nancy Grace, Jane Velez. I sincerely doubt that the police would exploit the parent of a missing child or use them as bait. This is too risky on his life since it’s not just local.
I bet your wrong. IF he did they would say he did
I bet your wrong
How many innocent people are willing to allow the public to think they are guilty. This man isn’t about to do that. His mother also can’t make up her mind whether she was home or not. She has been trying to cover for him.
I think that too- M_M22
He’s smart to play dumb. In a situation like this, the cops will lie in order to try to trip a suspect up – that’s standard issue police work.
Exactly. Most times a suspect is basically wired to a dishwasher as far as lie detection. No way to tell if someone is telling a lie. That is a work of fiction. The military uses this as well. It’s just investigative fodder. Standard practice. They will try to lie to you however to try and trip you up like you say. So, they either go for the confession or not but a polygraph, most of the time, is only useful for telling the truth, not telling a lie like most believe. So the polygraph test results they have are only good if they tricked a confession or it is used in addition to evidence, not as evidence itself. So they have no real desire either way to release those results to the public. Can you imagine the public condemning this man on a 50/50?
Most law enforcement officers are required to pass a polygraph test before being hired, and MANY applicants do not pass the polygraph test and do not get hired. Knowing someone who has taken a polygraph test twice (for two different jobs, not that they failed the first time lol) And it does most certainly pick up on lies, or give signals when something needs to be questioned more. Unfortunately, for honest normal people anyway, it can come up with a “signal” even when someone isn’t really lying, they just arent sure how to answer the question, or if they are questioning themselves on how to answer the question. However, if someone had something big to hide (like a murder in this case) , unless the person was a true sociopath, and truly believed their own lies, the polygraph would definitely pick up on the lies. It would very difficult to for your average person to trick a polygraph and hide something, but your average person could fail a polygraph simply by questioning their own responses. With that being said though, there are soooooooooo many questions asked during a polygraph, that an innocent person wouldn’t send a “signal” during each of those questions pertaining to whatever they are being questioned about, but a guilty person would.
The problem, of course, is that only a true sociopath would murder their child.
Most law enforcement officers are required to pass a polygraph test before being hired, and MANY applicants do not pass the polygraph test and do not get hired. Knowing someone who has taken a polygraph test twice (for two different jobs, not that they failed the first time lol) And it does most certainly pick up on lies, or give signals when something needs to be questioned more. Unfortunately, for honest normal people anyway, it can come up with a “signal” even when someone isn’t really lying, they just arent sure how to answer the question, or if they are questioning themselves on how to answer the question. However, if someone had something big to hide (like a murder in this case) , unless the person was a true sociopath, and truly believed their own lies, the polygraph would definitely pick up on the lies. It would very difficult to for your average person to trick a polygraph and hide something, but your average person could fail a polygraph simply by questioning their own responses. With that being said though, there are soooooooooo many questions asked during a polygraph, that an innocent person wouldn’t send a “signal” during each of those questions pertaining to whatever they are being questioned about, but a guilty person would.
“Can you imagine the public condemning this man on a 50/50?”
Judging by 90% of these comments, I’d say a resounding ‘yes.’
50/50?? a polygraph graph test given by a trained professional in a professional setting is 99.999% accurate. so to say you cant tell someone is lying is by all admissions a fabrication.. If he failed he failed for a reason… so yes i am willing to condemn a man on 99.99 accuracy and i’m almost positive the same percentage of people will agree
That is the dumbest statment I have read today. If the polygraph test was “99.999%” accurate as you stated it would be admissable in court–which it is NOT.
Proud- To respect you, I understand your opinion. It is the popular belief. Polygraphs are 99.999% accurate at making an assumption. That’s it. Study it a little further and you will find it is really only good, as far as investigative tool, for a confession. Study how the military uses it as well. But either way, evidence is far better an assumption.
For people like me who know enough about these topics from first hand experience it’s comical watching a bunch of people with NO idea what they are talking about make comments as though they are experts of some sort. I’ve had the luxury of meeting many detectives and a couple polygraph examiners. I’ve taken the polygraph myself. And as usual, I find most of these comments to be very self-serving and uninformed.
You can’t base your opinions on what defense attorneys and CSI has taught you. It simply doesn’t work that way.
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And as usual, I find most of these comments to be very self-serving and uninformed. ”
That is a pretty self serving statement.
Indeed. And I’m OK with accurate statements serving the the truth as opposed to inaccurate statements serving stereotypes, conspiracies and misinformation.
I agree with your post 100%. If he had nothing to hide, why not reveal the results if they were in his favor. Nothing I’ve read so far about this case has given “dear dad” any points at all. One would certainly think he would reveal a good result (if thats the case) in order to at least save face in his community!!!! For all the “cop haters” out there, they will surely say the police are lying just because of the hate for our dedicated officers. Get a life, you wouldn’t hate our officers had you not ever been nailed for something you did to break the law!
He would be bragging if he passed.
One of Portland’s papers has a much more informative article regarding the father taking a polygraph test. The police did tell him the results, but did not let him view the results, as he would not be able to understand the graph, which only an examiner could read & understand.
In answer to Aldin1, the police could not make an arrest if he did not pass the polygraph test, as they are inadmissible as evidence in any court in the nation. That is the reason why the police have not disclosed the results to the public Seeing as they are not admissible in an court in the nation, one would wonder why the police even bother to administer them or even mention to the public that one was administered, except to stir up negative publicity against the subject.
Or to stop people from saying he SHOULD take one!!
There are a lot of people on here over the weeks saying why hasnt he, and now they have told everyone he had, and it was shortly after she disappeared!
They are extremely reliable. Police use them as an investigative tool, thats why they are used. They are admissible in court in many circumstances and in some states. Many people every year are cleared by the use of the polygraph. You just dont hear about it. Many people are convicted every year as the result of them confessing after taking the polygraph. Confessions are fully admissible even if the result of a polygraph. The test itself is not admissible unless agreed upon by the attorneys involved and the judge or court. Many judges dont want a jury to be swayed one way or another by one portion of “evidence”. It makes sense actually.
Sex offenders are ordered to take periodic polygraph testing in order find out if they are committing new acts that would be a violation of their probation. These tests are admissible in order to make sure that the pervs are not acting out. So, in some small way polygraphs testing protects us (citizens and possible victims everyday). By the way, the tests are ordered by the same courts that do not allow them in criminal cases.
Police, the FBI, NSA, CIA (actually every federal law enforcement agency), most State Police Agencies, and the majority of county and municipal agencies use them in their hiring process. In Maine a law enforcement officer must pass a polygraph prior to being hired as a police officer. Yet another way that polygraph testing protects citizens from being policed by criminals. Nothing works 100 percent of the time so please dont come back with a crooked cop story. I have tons of crooked lawyer, millworker, store clerk and general crook stories to refute allegations. Lawyers, by the way, do not have to take a polygraph test to pass the bar or “work hard to protect your rights”. Your United States House of Representatives and Senators are immune from polygraph, even though they have supported its use in hiring law enforcement and security jobs. In other words, the people that protect the politicians need to take a polygraph, but they do not. Thank the late Teddy Kennedy for taking away the ability for business owners to even REQUEST a suspect of theft from their business, from taking a polygraph exam. He did it while being backed by organized labor. Odd. Teddy Kennedy, making sure that people do not get tested for lying about events. Welcome to memories of Chappaquiddick. Maybe Teddy would have done well after his non-disclosed drunk driving and swimming competition. I doubt it.
Police do not try to have negative publicity turned against a suspect. That would make him or her stop speaking to the police. They would not have released the results. Thats the way it is.
If this man is not telling people his results; he didnt pass. If he didnt pass, he at least has knowledge of what happened to this child.
They are extremely reliable. Police use them as an investigative tool, thats why they are used. They are admissible in court in many circumstances and in some states. Many people every year are cleared by the use of the polygraph. You just dont hear about it. Many people are convicted every year as the result of them confessing after taking the polygraph. Confessions are fully admissible even if the result of a polygraph. The test itself is not admissible unless agreed upon by the attorneys involved and the judge or court. Many judges dont want a jury to be swayed one way or another by one portion of “evidence”. It makes sense actually.
Sex offenders are ordered to take periodic polygraph testing in order find out if they are committing new acts that would be a violation of their probation. These tests are admissible in order to make sure that the pervs are not acting out. So, in some small way polygraphs testing protects us (citizens and possible victims everyday). By the way, the tests are ordered by the same courts that do not allow them in criminal cases.
Police, the FBI, NSA, CIA (actually every federal law enforcement agency), most State Police Agencies, and the majority of county and municipal agencies use them in their hiring process. In Maine a law enforcement officer must pass a polygraph prior to being hired as a police officer. Yet another way that polygraph testing protects citizens from being policed by criminals. Nothing works 100 percent of the time so please dont come back with a crooked cop story. I have tons of crooked lawyer, millworker, store clerk and general crook stories to refute allegations. Lawyers, by the way, do not have to take a polygraph test to pass the bar or “work hard to protect your rights”. Your United States House of Representatives and Senators are immune from polygraph, even though they have supported its use in hiring law enforcement and security jobs. In other words, the people that protect the politicians need to take a polygraph, but they do not. Thank the late Teddy Kennedy for taking away the ability for business owners to even REQUEST a suspect of theft from their business, from taking a polygraph exam. He did it while being backed by organized labor. Odd. Teddy Kennedy, making sure that people do not get tested for lying about events. Welcome to memories of Chappaquiddick. Maybe Teddy would have done well after his non-disclosed drunk driving and swimming competition. I doubt it.
Police do not try to have negative publicity turned against a suspect. That would make him or her stop speaking to the police. They would not have released the results. Thats the way it is.
If this man is not telling people his results; he didnt pass. If he didnt pass, he at least has knowledge of what happened to this child.
I hate disagreeing with you because i thought the same thing. I had a person break in to my office building looking for food two years ago. He took a lie detector test, he failed. It was not him that did it. He said he did it to have a place to sleep out of the cold. The real person stood up after he got sentenced. He no longer is homeless, this guy has a apartment because of me and has food on his table daily. I felt bad for the guy
I can only speak from my personal experiences. An examiner can be beaten. In your case, it sounds like the person still broke in, but for a different reason? If so, I should add intent or reason for an act cannot be tested. But I am not here to change your mind. I just hate to see people misrepresent something that they have little information about. I stand by the fact it that “dad” doesn’t release his results, I am going with, he didn’t pass. He was the last to see the child alive according to reports. I don’t need an algorithm to make to make a guess at how it went. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android-powered phone
And im not disagreeing with you on that. He might have broke in too, but i doubt it he seemed pretty upset when the guy came forward. He really needed a place. I have a kind heart i guess
I loved reading this post…Not because your office was broken into, but because you cared enough about a person down on his luck and you gave him a chance to come back — Love It!
They are extremely reliable. Police use them as an investigative tool, thats why they are used. They are admissible in court in many circumstances and in some states. Many people every year are cleared by the use of the polygraph. You just dont hear about it. Many people are convicted every year as the result of them confessing after taking the polygraph. Confessions are fully admissible even if the result of a polygraph. The test itself is not admissible unless agreed upon by the attorneys involved and the judge or court. Many judges dont want a jury to be swayed one way or another by one portion of “evidence”. It makes sense actually.
Sex offenders are ordered to take periodic polygraph testing in order find out if they are committing new acts that would be a violation of their probation. These tests are admissible in order to make sure that the pervs are not acting out. So, in some small way polygraphs testing protects us (citizens and possible victims everyday). By the way, the tests are ordered by the same courts that do not allow them in criminal cases.
Police, the FBI, NSA, CIA (actually every federal law enforcement agency), most State Police Agencies, and the majority of county and municipal agencies use them in their hiring process. In Maine a law enforcement officer must pass a polygraph prior to being hired as a police officer. Yet another way that polygraph testing protects citizens from being policed by criminals. Nothing works 100 percent of the time so please dont come back with a crooked cop story. I have tons of crooked lawyer, millworker, store clerk and general crook stories to refute allegations. Lawyers, by the way, do not have to take a polygraph test to pass the bar or “work hard to protect your rights”. Your United States House of Representatives and Senators are immune from polygraph, even though they have supported its use in hiring law enforcement and security jobs. In other words, the people that protect the politicians need to take a polygraph, but they do not. Thank the late Teddy Kennedy for taking away the ability for business owners to even REQUEST a suspect of theft from their business, from taking a polygraph exam. He did it while being backed by organized labor. Odd. Teddy Kennedy, making sure that people do not get tested for lying about events. Welcome to memories of Chappaquiddick. Maybe Teddy would have done well after his non-disclosed drunk driving and swimming competition. I doubt it.
Police do not try to have negative publicity turned against a suspect. That would make him or her stop speaking to the police. They would not have released the results. Thats the way it is.
If this man is not telling people his results; he didnt pass. If he didnt pass, he at least has knowledge of what happened to this child.
The military routinely teaches members how to “beat” or “confuse” a polygraph exam to those that may be captured. It is not difficult to make the results “inconclusive”.
Your right. However any good examiner knows when that’s happening. Many new methods are being used to take countermeasures into account. When someone uses countermeasures, they are trying to appear truthful. Its a clear sign of deception. Truthful individuals need no trickery to successfully pass.
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Yeah, they use a computer that is programmed to make the person being tested a liar.
Wow. Is it always 4:20 at your house?
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You have to be kidding. Polygraphs are so reliable that they are not admitted into evidence in court.
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By giving the polygraph (even though it is not admissible, and not a perfect science) at least gives them a direction to head in with their investigation.
to adlin1, you dont get arrested for failing a polygraph test. a polygraph is used as a tool. its not the end all. the police dont know what happened.
You don’t get arrested but it does tell you who has something to hide, which is pretty handy in a criminal investigation.
Sounds like the police aren’t going to back up this lie — he got away with that one when he said they told him not to talk with the media or put up posters for two-three weeks. I’m glad that he did take the polygraph though — now if he doesn’t know what happened to Ayla then maybe the police can move on and focus on the others that were in the house that night.
A few things to remember people, the police can’t force anyone to take a polygraph test and I don’t believe you can be arrested for failing all or portions of a lie detector test. And while lie detectors are good for createing suspects, but can’t be used (generally) in a court of law.
I guess I just doubt that a polygraph is all that reliable.
Maybe they told him not to release the results?
Sure — just like they told him not to talk to the press or put up posters of his missing child when at the time it was a “MISSING CHILD CASE” wouldn’t they want to have her picture out there? The police made sure to interject into this story that they told him of the results — they must have known that he was going to say he didn’t get the results. Uhmmmmm
Everyone is blaming it on the mother.If there was so many people in that house that night,then how did she get in there?This is getting way out of hand.The cops have a good idea of whats going on but,they,re not going to let the public know til it,s over.No one has a clue except for the cops and the parents.Give it at rest.
Not everyone is blaming the mother. They just don’t like her, plain and simple.
Which Mother, His or the babys?
so….who else was in the house the night Ayla disappeared, and why aren’t the names being released?? As I said, “what’s the big secret”???
In the Portland paper Justin released the names of everyone in the house that night.
People: Polygraphs are pseudo-scientific “tools”. They’re introduced as a part of the investigative process to trip up or otherwise alter the mindset of those who are interviewed. There is zero science supporting the commonly held belief that polygraphs are capable of detecting whether or not an individual is telling the truth or not.
In other words, a polygraph is a forensic tool, the results of which can’t be reviewed an analyzed in a vacuum.
http://www.skepdic.com/polygrap.html
They are extremely reliable. Police use them as an investigative tool, thats why they are used. They are admissible in court in many circumstances and in some states. Many people every year are cleared by the use of the polygraph. You just dont hear about it. Many people are convicted every year as the result of them confessing after taking the polygraph. Confessions are fully admissible even if the result of a polygraph. The test itself is not admissible unless agreed upon by the attorneys involved and the judge or court. Many judges dont want a jury to be swayed one way or another by one portion of “evidence”. It makes sense actually.
Sex offenders are ordered to take periodic polygraph testing in order find out if they are committing new acts that would be a violation of their probation. These tests are admissible in order to make sure that the pervs are not acting out. So, in some small way polygraphs testing protects us (citizens and possible victims everyday). By the way, the tests are ordered by the same courts that do not allow them in criminal cases.
Police, the FBI, NSA, CIA (actually every federal law enforcement agency), most State Police Agencies, and the majority of county and municipal agencies use them in their hiring process. In Maine a law enforcement officer must pass a polygraph prior to being hired as a police officer. Yet another way that polygraph testing protects citizens from being policed by criminals. Nothing works 100 percent of the time so please dont come back with a crooked cop story. I have tons of crooked lawyer, millworker, store clerk and general crook stories to refute allegations. Lawyers, by the way, do not have to take a polygraph test to pass the bar or “work hard to protect your rights”. Your United States House of Representatives and Senators are immune from polygraph, even though they have supported its use in hiring law enforcement and security jobs. In other words, the people that protect the politicians need to take a polygraph, but they do not. Thank the late Teddy Kennedy for taking away the ability for business owners to even REQUEST a suspect of theft from their business, from taking a polygraph exam. He did it while being backed by organized labor. Odd. Teddy Kennedy, making sure that people do not get tested for lying about events. Welcome to memories of Chappaquiddick. Maybe Teddy would have done well after his non-disclosed drunk driving and swimming competition. I doubt it.
Police do not try to have negative publicity turned against a suspect. That would make him or her stop speaking to the police. They would not have released the results. Thats the way it is.
If this man is not telling people his results; he didnt pass. If he didnt pass, he at least has knowledge of what happened to this child.
Once was enough, thanks.
A statement I’m sure you are used to hearing.
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Everything you said was very interesting… especially the part about lawyers not being required to take a polygraph to pass the bar. I know you’re right and this gave me a chuckle because I have a real dislike for defense lawyers who believe their job is to get an acquittal at any cost. I believe our judicial system was originally intended for all lawyers – defense and prosecution to seek justice under the law. Today it is anything but that. Today defense lawyers aren’t ashamed to say that their job is to get an acquittal no matter what.
The job of defense attorneys should be to provide even a guilty person with the best possible defense UNDER THE LAW. Meaning advising their client to be honest about their guilty and then seek the right sentence or even a lighter sentence that fits the crime. I don’t think it’s right that defense attorneys now see their job as advising criminals how to behave in court, what to say in court and don’t like how they use the internet for jury selection and to gauge public response to a variety of different defense strategies that amounts to nothing more than floating lies to see which one might work… and pretty much finding every crevice and crack in the law just to get an acquittal for their client for every crime up to and including murder. That’s not justice and that’s what’s wrong with our judicial system – defense attorneys are not required to be honest.
Oh… and I totally agree with you that this man knows more than he is saying.
Great insight. Original intentions were for lawyers to guarantee the client was fairly tried. Not aquitted at any cost. By the way, attorneys routinely use polygraphs to test their clients honesty. Trust me, they know it works. Internet forums mislead examinees in how simply you can “beat” the polygraph. Can it be done? Yup. Can it be done easily? Nope. Lawyers use a self appointed license to lie at will. Cops do jail time for that. That’s fine. Lawyers get paid for it. Try a lawsuit on your lawyer when you were found guilty because they did a horrible job defending you. Call me when you win. I don’t expect my phone to ring. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android-powered phone
I’m thinking that they both took one right from the beginning and neither are releasing the results. The police have been saying that they both have been cooperating with the investigation. If they ask him to take one a day after then they probably ask her too also. If she refused the polygraph I doubt they’d be saying she’s being cooperative. Just a thought.
Now here is an interesting statement in this article… “DiPietro told the Portland Press Herald that he doesn’t know how he did on the polygraph test while police say they told him the results.”
Gee, I wonder who is lying about this… Justin or the police???
Actually, this is a very poorly written/edited AP article. It’s source is the Portland Press Herald. If you follow the link to the source article, you will find that he did not talk to the Portland Press Herald, he talked to Ben McCanna of the Morning Sentinel. Although this may be viewed as semantics, nowhere in the article does it say “he doesn’t know”; it says he “never saw.” The article does quote Steve McCausland as saying he [DiPietro] knows the results. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS COMMENT IS IN NO WAY A COMMENT ABOUT THE CASE (emphasis added for those replying as if it is). This comment is strictly about the serious lack of editorial oversight in much of today’s media. Given that the Bangor Daily has a sharing agreement with the Press Herald, one would think the BDN would have posted the PPH article directly instead of using the AP as a middleman. It should also serve as a cautionary tale about the race to quickly post stories without first fact checking. Whoever wrote the article for the AP needs some remedial education in Journalism 101 and I dare say the BDN would be well-served by hiring newsdesk editors who actually edit and require their staff to fact check.
I believe that DiPietro himself is taking the advice of his lawyer and playing with words. Don’t know vs. hasn’t seen (whatever) He seems to not want to say anything about it — if I took one and passed I’d be telling everyone.
Like I said… this IS an interesting statement. So, if you like I’ll add the Portland Press, BDN and Morning Sentinel to Justin and the police into my wondering who is lying about the results of the polygraph.
I don’t believe all polygraphs are 100% accurate and only see them as one tool in an investigation so whether he failed or passed is almost irrelevant to me. It’s the misunderstandings all in relationship to Justin and his mother that are beginning to add up here that make me uncomfortable…
The last misunderstanding was when the father and his mother supposedly misunderstood the police and thought the police told them not to talk to media or anyone about the missing baby or not to talk about where the mother was the night of the baby’s disappearance and that they thought the police meant for an indefinite period of time instead of just a few days. This is a big misunderstanding that someone resulted in him not talking to the media to get the word out that the baby was missing…
Now you say he thought they said “saw” the polygraph results instead of “knew” the polygraph results… and that someone, media or police misunderstood his response. I don’t know… Coincidences, mishaps, misunderstandings when they start stacking up begin to look like anything but coincidences, mishaps and misunderstandings. Hopefully someone in his camp will begin communicating properly with authorities and the media and there won’t be any more misunderstandings. This baby needs to be found.
If this was my child, I would be turning over every rock to find her. You couldn’t keep me off the news,tv and other media to find the son of gun who took her. There’s something wrong here and the parents know who has her or where she is! I just hope the police are on the right track and get the job done.
Unless we are working side by side with those envolved, we don’t know all the facts.
The law does what it needs to do and tries for the best.
If any of you think you can do better at finding this child, then join the law and do it legally.
People talk and people listen…assumeing and suggesting are not answers.
Trial and error,,can be helpfull. Let the authorities do their job and stop knocking them.
None of us is perfect in what we do..but at least we try hard. And when it comes to a case like this,,they try harder.
I am wondering if they did a polygraph on the Mother.
caryn618
You child is going to have an internal fear of being obducted. For God’s sake, use your head!
Sometimes the polygraph test is inconclusive. Not enough correct or incorrect answers to establish reliable results. The police usually have evidence, which the suspect doesn’t know about, hoping there will be a break in the case. It’s hard for me to believe that a 20 month old child walked out of the house on her own. It is also hard to believe that someone broke into the house and took the child, kidnapping with no ransom note. The third possibility is that the father was somehow connected to the disappearance of the child, he was there when whatever happened, happened.
Everyone speculating, everyone offering their opinions on every aspect of this case. All of it is noise. A small child is missing: WHERE IS AYLA?
Really? Speculate much?
Sadly, whether the father, mother or a stranger did something with/to this poor child, the fact is the same. She is gone. Given what information has been made public at this point, the chances of finding her alive and well seem slim.
I have a hard time believing the child’s mother could mastermind a kidnapping and susuquent hiding. She seems extremely immature.
If the father and/or his family have something to do with this, they are all in cahoots. Someone will eventually crack.
Stranger abduction from a tiny ranch home, likely with paper-thin walls, with another child sleeping in the room? Who really believes that?
As much as I would like to, I just don’t see a happy ending in this…
Two other children were in the home. Apparently Justin’s girlfriend’s young son was there as well.
I don’t care if he passed or not since, like plenty of others have pointed out, they’re not reliable. The idea that someone is lying now, either the dad or the police, is the police’s way of slowly putting the pressure on him. Seems to be working. He won’t answer the door to his mother’s house for reporters. Starting to smell worse every day. My guess is that he failed, immediately got a lawyer (not sure how he’s paying for that) and has been trying to lay low ever since. When is Nancy Grace showing up for her sleepover? Not a good idea, Nancy. Put a lock on the door if you do.
Poor , sweet, little girl—I believe that people are just plain sick of listening to these two people carry on–The little one was tossed around from one in re-hab, and another who supposedly didn’t want her—This world is full of strange people, and one little child is still missing while the parents continue to play their games!
Usually an innocent person announces to the world he passed the polygraph with flying colors. I can only speculate this isn’t the case here. I still think Mr. DiPietro knows Ayla’s whereabouts. I think he doesn’t act worried because he knows she’s safe somewhere.
I agree regarding his response to the question(s) about the test. However, someone needs to explain why he would hide her. What would he have to gain from that? If she is “in hiding” he will never be able to see her, or at least not for a very long time. The person “hiding” her would have a lot to lose if this unravels. From all accounts, he didn’t have any type of relationship with the mother. Did he feel like his parenting was that far superior to hers that it was worth risking jail time to get someone to hide her? None of that makes any sense.
So he obviously failed the lie detector test, because if he did pass it he would have said so…he would have said, “I passed.” Since his answers all dance around that question then it’s clear he failed.
I’m sure there will STILL be people blaming the mother for no other reason than her being a single mother (although she is engaged to her son’s father according to a recent report.) These people lie and say DHHS took Ayla away when that isn’t at all what happened…Justin took Ayla from her grandmother and aunt when her mom went to ALCOHOL rehab (not illegal drugs). Since he is her parent he’s legally allowed to do that as long as he isn’t on DHHS’ database. So he was allowed to take her.
There wasn’t just two children in that house…there were three. Justin’s girlfriend’s young son was there too. Other papers have named her, so we now know who she is.
Has the mother taken one?
Lets use logic. You have to know the family. Ayla’s mom was on drugs and in therapy. He was also a druggie but didn’t choose to get help. He isn’t going to tell the public that his lie detector showed deception, because then everyone is going to turn on him. His mother can’t figure out whether she was home the night Ayla went missing or not, because she has her own motherly instincts to cover for her son. Connect the dots.
If you are ever arrested DO NOT take a polygraph test. It does not prove guilt or innocence, or even lying versus the truth. It proves how well you handle interrogation under stress. Law enforcement can spin that anyway they wish; and they do. Which is why in most cases you hear them say the results were “inconclusive”.
Look close at the photo, it has a USMC sticker in it. Semper Fi?
If he had failed, investigators would have focused on him like a laser beam. He hasn’t hired a lawyer and that’s a sign.
In an article earlier on it stated that he did have a lawyer.
Here is a better write up from CNN seeing how our locals can’t provide much detail, which includes a comment
“I know I went in there and smoked it,” he said. “I told the truth, and that’s it.”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/14/justice/maine-missing-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Folks, the inmates are running the asylum, eh?
see link for full story
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20120114/ARTICLE/301149994/0/NEWS
Police Capt. James Lee Foy has been fired.
By PHIL ATTINGER
Lakeland Ledger
Saturday, January 14, 2012
LAKE WALES – A veteran Lake Wales police officer was fired Friday for failing to disclose that he pleaded no contest in 1985 to having sex with a teenage girl in Bradenton.
Capt. James L. Foy, 51, was placed on paid leave from his $66,000-a-year job on Dec. 6 — the day his past was revealed in a Herald-Tribune story that was part of an investigative series examining how unfit Florida police officers remain on the job.
The story covered how Foy had pleaded no contest to having sex with a 15-year-old girl in 1985 when he was working as a police officer in Bradenton.
Foy was 24 years old and had been a Bradenton police officer for three years. A judge agreed to withhold adjudication, meaning Foy was not formally convicted of the offense.
So now all the people on this forum carping that he should take a polygraph get to eat crow! perhaps now all you couch surfing, CSI watching, Caylee Anthony Syndrome, fiends may decide to actually let the police do their jobs prior squeeling your verdicts on the internet.
Take a breath..
Step away from the keyboard
ok, let me throw this out there..Aylas mother stated in the BDN last week..that while she was in rehab she called and tried to talk to Ayla,,and the father always told her Aylas was sleeping or playing.so she couldnt talk to her daughter..What if she threatened Justin during one of those calls that she was going to go for custody of Ayla when she got out..which according to her she did when she got out. This is just speculation on my part..but what if Justin hatched a plan during that time to hide Ayla, and keep her far away from her? I just cant believe with all the other houses so close to Justins mothers,that someone would actually break in and take just Ayla..when there were other children in the house, sleeping in the same room as Ayla. I also wonder who..outside of his family..actually saw Ayla being put to bed that nite? or did his plan to keep Ayla away from her mother start long before that night..and he just chose a certain morning to report her missing..while Aylas had long since left the house? im just throwing this out there………
BINGO…computer software has a HIT…….a MATCH…..with natal chart…..do not know guilt nor innocense, but (prior) convict , ….6-24-1979………ASTROTHEME dot com says a fellow whose last known address is 14 Violette St Waterville Maine…is a MATCH……..lotta paperwork and explanations here coming from that site…..called all the cops, and, due to Holiday weekend, and fatigue, everybody seems to be taking a nap…..Trista’s website claims she is overwhelmed by the responses…….
Ayla’s chart (Astrotheme) for monday 1/16 says HOME SWEET HOME…..come on coppers, do your job…..we call this stuff in and we get treated like freaks……guess they are tired…..it’s okay….we do not take a day off in the Navy……Folks from Bangor do not have the word (quit) in their vocabulary…….we are done when it is over…period…..
The story leaves an unanswered question: Why won’t Di Pietro publicly state that he passed the lie detector test?