Disillusioned in man

Sadly, I agree with the final comment in the BDN’s Jan. 17 Editorial, “The Rev. Robert Carlson” that those who who revered him will be “devastatingly disillusioned.”

Unfortunately, some will be disillusioned with God and that is the real shame that comes from the life of one who takes on the claim of being a religious leader. It should be a reminder to all who profess to be believers to put their faith in God, not man or institutions.

Glennice Cline

Greenbush

Why stay Maine resident?

As the health insurance issue in Maine continues to get worse, my question to Gov. LePage and the Legislature is why should I continue to be a Maine resident? I have been visiting Arizona for a few years now and I am finding reasons to consider using this as my residence.

1. In Maine, for Anthem Blue Cross with a $15,000 deductible ($30,000 family), the cost is $592.

2. In Arizona, for Anthem Blue Cross the deductible is $2,000 ($4000 Family) with $3,000 maximum out of pocket per member. The cost is approximately $662.

3. A plan in Maine comparable to No. 2 would cost me approximately $1750 a month.

You do the math. I am fortunate that I have a choice, but not all Mainers do, and for them my heart breaks as they have tougher choices to make. Let’s quit regulating Maine to death.

Fred Gagne

Old Town

Say no to DCP tank

I am writing to encourage all registered Searsport voters to support the DCP tank moratorium by voting March 10. Like it or not, towns such as Searsport are dependent upon tourists who visit, buy summer homes or move here to live their dream of growing a business in our great state.

The visual blight, safety issues, increased traffic and property devaluation that this 138-foot tank will cause will forever impact our dependence upon tourism, the money spent at our B&Bs, motels, restaurants, gas stations, fish sellers, gift shops, landscapers, etc. This loss in revenue and jobs will continue long after DCP’s claim that for every $1 million it contributes toward this project it will generate $3 million in revenue, just a temporary influx. Searsport, Belfast, Northport, the islands, Bucksport and Stockton Springs will be stuck with the long term loss of jobs and revenue.

DCP and Searsport officials have woefully neglected to address the safety and evacuation issues with regard to this tank and increased traffic. In Florida where a similar tank was built there is a two-mile buffer; Searsport has none proposed.

The divisiveness this issue is causing is not dissimilar the LNG debate in Wiscasset and Searsport a few years ago. This is not a Democrat versus Republican issue. It is much larger than that. Companies such as DCP and a few shortsighted town officials don’t care about small towns. We are seen as expendable and without the muscle to fight back.

Jeannie Lucas

Searsport

Silent red carpet

I have just finished watching the red carpet introductory show of the Golden Globes awards and I feel like I have watched a silent movie with music (and not very good music, at that).

It’s not fair to those who sit at home trying to enjoy this (or any) show. We, too, are interested in what the stars have to say, as well as the dialogue the screenwriters work to produce, but because of all the background noise from spectators and shows that want to be “real” (don’t we have enough reality in our lives?), we lose what is said or written.

The exception to this are the commercials. They come on loud and clear — so much so they make the hard of hearing cringe.

Why must we be subjected to this when we are supposed to be entertained? Why can’t the producers look at the old time shows — for which people had to use their imaginations and actors and emcees could be heard — and replicate them?

Elizabeth VanDyke

Guilford

Bang for buck in basement

I compliment those who raise money to pay for heating oil for the less fortunate. Unfortunately it is not the best solution. It is far better to raise money for permanent reductions in the use of heating oil.

That is, with one exception: the cost of upgrading the insulation in a house is expensive and can take years and years to break even. One upgrade, which has a one-year payback, is insulating basement walls.

In my case, I spent $500 and saved 300 gallons of heating oil a year. I did my basement five years ago and have saved 1,500 gallons. Insulating an unfinished basement, which is not living space, costs about $600 and will save a minimum of 200 gallons. At current oil prices, the savings in one year will be $750 and thus the homeowner will save a net $150 in the first year.

Wet and rubble stone basements will cost more because the methods to do them are more expensive, but the bonus is that the basement will be dry and mold free.

The most important thing that BDN can do is inform the people of Maine that insulating basement walls is the absolute biggest bang for the buck.

David Chotkowski

Southwest Harbor

Ross crossed line

I do hope that Penobscot County Sheriff Glen Ross was misquoted on the front page of the Jan. 19 Bangor Daily News. Otherwise, every defense lawyer has been handed a new defense plea: “Judge, if my client had not robbed that bank, somebody would have robbed it next week.”

Sheriff Glen Ross states he had not crossed any “ethical” lines since police officers tell “suspects” they are under investigation all the time. Really? If that is true, it seems to me to be a very counterproductive practice.

Suppose a quarterback told the defense what play was going to be run. Make sense? No, Sheriff Glen Ross crossed a line and if not legal surely an ethical one.

I wonder if he lets everyone know when they are under investigation or just his friends? Unfortunately for everybody, Mr. Carlson took a tragic way out. But what if he had simply left the country? I wonder how many other investigations has Sheriff Ross compromised?

I have one more question. Where is his letter of resignation?

Jim Miller

Pittsfield

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  1. Fred Gagne: Wow, those numbers are pretty shocking. I don’t know why there is such a difference, but clearly it is a problem. If it’s regulation (don’t know that to be true), the we really do need reform. I can’t imagine we’re 3X sicker here in Maine.

    1. More than likely it is the fact that we have a bloated Medicaid program in this state in which the “negotiated” rate the system makes with the healthcare providers is not enough to cover their cost of service, thus the difference is passed on to those with private insurance. Also the former Governors practice of “balancing” the budget by simply not paying the hospitals did not help much either.

      1. That’s a good point: the more people covered by medicaid and the more generous the benefits, the revenue a hospital receives (via negotiated rate and underpayment). The rest of us pick up the tab. Hadn’t thought of that. Talk about unintended consequences: medicaid makes private health insurance less affordable…

      2. Not enough to cover their cost of service??? Check out the executive compensation at Anthem Blue Cross before you cry for the poor insurance companies. Just got done showing “Sicko” to yet another group of young people. One open, reasoning mind at a time, the American people will come to realize that a health insurance system that puts profit above all is not serving a majority of Americans and cannot continue in its present form.
        The United States pays more per capita for health care than any country in the world and still does not guarantee access to the system for all its citizens. As an American taxpayer, I support a gradual move toward Medicare for all — sort of like Obama’s trying to do, in the face of well-funded Republican obstructionism.

        1. As a taxpayer I don’t want to pay for myself and some lazy layabout.  When 46% pay no income taxes how much will you have to steal from me to pay for all the others.  What’s in it for me?  Doing the correct thing.  The right thing is for everyone to help pull the wagon.

          1. The fallacy in this type of thinking is the assumption that people who can’t afford insurance, or who have insurance and get screwed by their insurance providers, are lazy layabouts.
            If a poor person’s house is on fire, should the taxpayer-supported fire department let it burn because the occupants aren’t “pulling the wagon”?
            I know many people of modest means who work hard for what little they have. Yet you think it’s okay for insurance executives to make millions on the backs of these struggling people. This isn’t getting ahead by means of hard work; it’s robbing the American taxpayer for personal gain. Selling an insurance policy with a $15,000 deductible should be illegal, as are most forms of theft.
            Easing regulations on insurance companies won’t solve anything, because the insurance companies are the problem in the first place.

          2. If I pay for someone’s elses care or insurance, what’s their incentive for them to change the formula.  Nearly 1/2 the population pays no tax anyway.
            If a poor person’s house is on fire the tax payer funded fire department should put out the fire but your view is that even if the poor person has no insurance that I have to pay to rebuild his house or provide him housing.

        2. And where did you show “Sicko” to this group of young people?

          I do hope it wasn’t in a school setting.  Because “Sicko” is neither balanced or accurate and can be best described as mostly propaganda.

    2. Every state requires insurance companies to cover different illnesses differently. Maine requires the insurance companies to cover more illnesses better than Arizona does. 

      That is why the insurance is priced differently, not the amount of deductible.

  2. Jim Miller, I may be wrong but I was under the impression that Carlson was a regular visitor to the Penobscot County Jail. As such an investigation was revealed to the Sheriff to prevent him from entering the jail. I believe that Sheriff Ross did the courtesy of telling Carlson that he was no longer permitted inside the jail and when asked why, he told him that he was under investigation.

    Other than this incident that has a lot of people getting on their high horse. I can’t recall Sheriff Ross being anything but an exemplery Sheriff and an asset to Penobscot County.

  3.  Ms. VanDyke,

     Terribly sorry if your listening pleasure of some babbling idiot accepting an award based on popularity the last three months  was interrupted . Oops, no i’m not.  The Glamour of Hollywood has been reduced to a bunch of “Do as I say, not as I do.”  Narcissistic,  wealthy, that don’t apologize for a lavish lifestyle and yet appear to think others should.

    Mr. Miller,

     I don’t know the whole story but someone at the BDN must have thought something insidious  was going on to bother printing your letter. 

     WELL,  That’s good enough for me.  There’s obviously nothing going on.I think you should let the police do the police’s job and stick to tutoring in whatever field you are employed.

    1. Only going to comment on your response to VanDyke. Well played. Who really gives a crap what any of those people think? Not me. Wait, there was an awards show? I must have been doing something more important like sleeping, or watching my new paint dry.

  4.  I’m going to keep my eye out for the post that ONCE AGAIN had absolutely no offensive content and yet was, “pulled for monitoring”

     Disagree with  the BDN and it appears they like to look at your posts a little more often. What a surprise.

      1. Really???? And how exactly would a post be FLAGGED by anyone if it WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO BE POSTED WHEN I FIRST WROTE IT.???????  

         Play all of the one sided silly political games you wish. I am one of the few here that defends both sides and at the same time I despise those in power on BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

          Please give me an honest reason that it was pulled BEFORE IT EVER RAN. Your LIE is inconsistant with the circumstances. 

        1. All kinds of individual words will be flagged and get you the “moderator” message.  Sometimes I have to scratch my head and think  what word did I use that could possibly be a problem. 

          My advice is to copy any messages you post and if you get the moderator message look and modify and post again.  Substituting other symbols such as a zero for an o or a one for an i in the word will often get it past as well.

          Total bu11, but BDN censorship is here to stay.

          1.  I do all of the above and yet they still management to pull them, drives me nuts.  I like the copy idea though, see what happens.

  5. Fred you raise an interesting question.  For starters  Maine’s per capita health expenditures are $8,521 vs $5,434 in Arizona which represents a 36% difference between the states.  I suspect the remainder of the difference has to to do with Maine’s regulatory framework compared to Arizona’s, but I don’t have the time to do the in-depth comparisons of regulations for this post.

  6. David Chotkowski:  good letter.
    Fred Gagne:  so who wants to move to Arizona?  You’ just have to come back in the summer anyway.  And, who wants to live with water rationing (if it isn’t there yet, it soon will be)?

  7. Glennice Cline – 
    It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. Psalms 118:8.

    Far too many people get disillusioned with God because of the actions, words, or improper witness of humans. If we were more worried about God becoming disillusioned with us, maybe things would be different.

  8. David- Insulation truly is the gift that keeps on giving. I double insulated my new home when I built it in 2003. Between this and the radiant heat gas fired system that I installed, the total heat and hot water bill for this winter has averaged around $150 a month, or a total of $750 for a five month heating season. 

  9. Ms. Van dyke – there are way more material and important things to focus your energy on. But if you must writing into the BDN editorials will do absolutely nothing to solve your dilemma. You will have to contact the networks or some entity actually responsible for the broadcast.

    Ms. Lucas – Maine needs to stop beating up capital. No infrastructure, no investment equals no jobs and no revenue. This area is an industrial area and the tank should be welcomed

  10. The LP tank in Searsport is to be placed in a current industrial zone at Mack Point. How different is that from the mill and tank farm in Bucksport? I guess I would rather have full time jobs as opposed to seasonal employment. But if you would rather keep a stall at the Searsport Fleamarket, then by all means oppose any progress.

    1.  seems to me that the citizens of a town (large or small) should have some input into how their town grows. too often a mega corporation comes to town promising BIG things, then they run roughshod over the existing businesses or homeowners in their relentless pursuit of corporate profits. reading the reports of this proposed project make it a much larger and more destructive project than what searsport has at mack point……….or at that other spewing company near them.

      like bucksport saying no to big wind, it looks like searsportonians are saying no to big gas. let towns citizens have more say into what happens in their own town.   

      1. It is usually a small group of citizens, a distinct minority, that makes all the noise and is against these things.  I listened to one of the activists against this project on the radio.  Regular activist who is against most everything.  Sometimes even posts here under his own name.  The majority of his argument amounted to NIMBY and fear mongering.

        1. 220 Searsport residents signed the moratorium petition.
          127 Searsport residents voted at the 2011 town meeting.
          Distinct minority?

          1. If every man, woman, and child in town had been approached and asked to sign, you would be right. Actually, the people gathering signatures set up shop in a public location and in a few hours’ time, collected more signatures than necessary to bring the moratorium to a vote.

  11. David Chotkowski,

    Although what you mentioned is in fact a great idea, the “biggest bang for your buck” is to properly air seal your home.  Eliminating the “chimney effect” costs very little and results in drastic reductions.  Insulating for all you are worth and ignoring air sealing is like peeing in the wind.

  12. Glennice, although I have read your posts before and did not like what you had to say i have to say now that I agree. Man is flawed. The Bible is flawed. But there is something much greater than myself out there and it is beautiful. This is where my faith lies. 

    1. Well said.  The Bible is known as “the Good Book;” it contains much that is good, yet it is not perfect.  We humans are also flawed.  Yet I trust that at the heart of the universe there is an intentional goodness from which we have come, that sustains us in the present, and to which we will all return. 

  13. Glennice Cline,

    Amen, good letter. We all have free will to do good or evil, and sadly there are those who pretend to be good people but in actuality are a tumor causing untold harm. Don’t let evil corruption get in the way of your salvation; Satan loves it when you curse God for what he does.

  14. Fred Gagne,
    You are absolutely correct and reminded every reader of the impacts of 35 years of Leftist Democratic rule in the state of Maine.   Thanks for voting with your feet.

          1. According to the State of the Union speech last night, the rich are evil and our health is the government’s responsibility. 

            Come on, November. Obama has to go back to Chicago.

    1. Yes, we could be more like Arizona who let 4 people die last summer because their death panel decided that they did not want to pay for life saving operations for poor people. 

      Welcome to a Republican ruled state, if you are poor you had better not get sick and if you get sick just die already.

          1. They let thousands die during a heat wave a few summers ago because all the doctors go on vacation in August.  Do your research before you tout the French

          2. Flat:  they died in their homes because of overheating.  They never made it to hospitals.  It had nothing to do with vacations, doctors, hospitals or socialized medicine.  

          3. I lived in Paris and you are correct that they died from heat exhaustion and many in their home.  The hospitals were inundated due to lack of staff.  The country shuts down in August.  It has EVERYTHING to do with socialized medicine.  Ignorance is bliss. 

          4. Unless you lived in France during that heat wave you had access only to the same news sources that we had here in the US.  None of the news articles said that the people died in hospitals because of  socialized medicine.  They died because they were elderly and already close to death from heat stroke.  Most arrived at hospitals too late to get help.  Hospitals were overwhelmed.  It did not say they did not serve all that showed up.  Doctors were recalled by the government from vacations.  Thirty  nine people in the US  died during that same heat wave.   Socialism didn’t kill them.  

          5. What she said is precisely what happened. Instead of  a vague blanket assertion, why don’t you try to be a little more precise?

          6. Show us some links that prove your points, otherwise youare just another RW conservative who cannot back up what they say.

          7. Scientists at INSERM, the National Institute of Health and Medical Research, deduced the toll by determining that France had experienced 14,802 more deaths than expected for the month of August.
            The toll exceeds the prior government count of 11,435, a figure that was based only on deaths in the first two weeks of the month.
            The new estimate includes deaths from the second half of August, after the record-breaking temperatures of the first half of the month had abated.
            The bulk of the victims — many of them elderly — died during the height of the heat wave, which brought suffocating temperatures of up to 104 degrees in a country where air conditioning is rare. Others apparently were greatly weakened during the peak temperatures but did not die until days later.
            The new estimate comes a day after the French Parliament released a harshly worded report blaming the deaths on a complex health system, widespread failure among agencies and health services to coordinate efforts, and chronically insufficient care for the elderly.

          8. Scientists at INSERM, the National Institute of Health and Medical Research, deduced the toll by determining that France had experienced 14,802 more deaths than expected for the month of August.
            The toll exceeds the prior government count of 11,435, a figure that was based only on deaths in the first two weeks of the month.
            The new estimate includes deaths from the second half of August, after the record-breaking temperatures of the first half of the month had abated.
            The bulk of the victims — many of them elderly — died during the height of the heat wave, which brought suffocating temperatures of up to 104 degrees in a country where air conditioning is rare. Others apparently were greatly weakened during the peak temperatures but did not die until days later.
            The new estimate comes a day after the French Parliament released a harshly worded report blaming the deaths on a complex health system, widespread failure among agencies and health services to coordinate efforts, and chronically insufficient care for the elderly.

          9. 50,000 Americans die each year because they were not able to get the necessary treatment needed to live. This is ongoing and not because of a dramatic natural disaster. 

            I stand by my assertion that France’s socialist healthcare system is head and shoulders above America’s for profit healthcare system.

            I’ll bet you never even followed the links because you know that you’ll find out that you are wrong but if the only place you get your information from is Fox News, Limbaugh, Beck and the others, what do you expect?

  15. Gabbling MCs., erratic arm-waving, finger pointing, cavorting commentators, sadly, is today’s broadcasting, Elizabeth.  In most cases, that is.   There are some exceptions, albeit few.

    Understandably, you lean forward attempting to catch a few words and then you’re suddenly shocked back into your chair as the commercials thunder into your room, decimating your hearing. 

    My escape is to use the captions.  Half deaf, my ears cruelly siphon any moderation existent in the female commentator’s voice replacing it with a shriek.  Most cable or dish programs are out of sync, words following the sound, or, vice versa.   Weather shows are ballet at its primitive worse. Political commentators rattle like a Kalashnikov rifle. Twenty-Four-Hour news stations must cram all of their news into 30-second “holes.”

    As a newspaper delivery boy I got into the habit of reading all of the dailies and evening papers as I dropped them off.  Today, I still maintain the habit of reading the newspapers and magazines, and finding considerably more to enjoy than I do off the tube.

  16. Glennice…I put my faith in me and a few close friends and family. I’ll take that over a god or those who claim they are “men of god” any day.

  17. Jeannie Lucas hits the nail on the head when she urges her fellow townspeople to attend the March 10 annual town meeting in Searsport and vote for a moratorium on Big Tank. Townspeople need time to get the facts about something imposed by executives in boardrooms in Houston and Denver that would threaten local public safety and guarantee local economic devastation while giving back almost nothing in return. Even the real reason for building this unnecessary monster  is unclear. It’s doubtful it’s really about guaranteeing propane delivery to Maine’s small and dwindling population of homeowners who use this fuel. It’s certainly not because the grinning PR folks at DCP Midstream are sincere when they say they want to be our friends and neighbors.

    The refrigerated liquefied propane tank proposed for Searsport is more than two and a half times taller and proportionately wider than the largest existing bulk storage tank at Mack Point. At 22.7 million gallons capacity and the height of a 14-story building, few if any other man-made objects in the state of Maine would occupy quite as much space as this behemoth. It is totally out of scale with what is in fact a relatively small port facility whose operations have regrettably expanded out to its modest boundaries and already closely adjoin not only residential and commercial neighborhoods but also a chemical plant. 

    Mack Point was developed near the beginning of the last century for the essential but very limited purpose of taking advantage of newly developed coal fields in Virginia to provide a marine coaling station for the Bangor and Aroostook Railroad. Over the past century, the port at Searsport has gradually shifted operations to near full physical capacity as it has come to function primarily as a marine entry point for those bulk commodities, primarily petroleum products, that supply the energy and transportation needs of Maine people in the central, eastern and northern portions of the state.

    This is almost entirely a utility port to supply the region’s needs for heating oil, gasoline, ethanol, diesel fuel, asphalt and road salt. Some heavier distillates, petcoke, wood pulp, kaolin clay, gypsum and chemicals are among the bulk commodities imported through Mack Point that supply what heavy industry exists in the region. Throw in a few wind turbine blades imported from Brazil and that’s it. Except for an occasional cargo of paper, relatively little is ever exported from here.

    The refrigerated tank proposed for Mack Point rises to the same degree of public safety concern as the handful of huge LNG gasification and storage facilities proposed in recent years elsewhere  along the Maine coast (including at Sears Island). Such was the perceived hazard that subsequently and most wisely all were rejected. The only major difference in the conflagration posed by an LPG tank failure is the liquefied propane sitting inside at an artificially induced minus 44 degrees F. contains roughly twice the potential energy as a comparable volume of the liquefied methane that makes up LNG. The potential thermal and blast energy of a conflagration involving a fully loaded LPG tank the size being proposed is, by various calculations, between 26 and 35 times greater than that of the 20-kiloton nuclear weapon that destroyed Hiroshima.

    DCP Midstream Partners LLC, wholly owned jointly by ConocoPhillips and Spectra Energy (Duke Energy’s gas spinoff), proposes to spend $40 million to build its terminal operations at Mack Point. The company hasn’t explained why it wishes to substitute Searsport as the site of its port and storage operations for backup supplies of foreign propane for Maine and New England. At present, these operations are in a big industrial zone on the waterfront at Providence, R.I., but just last summer DCP confidently paid a $3 million penalty fee to its own parent company, Spectra Energy, in order to shorten its lease contract for use of the Rhode Island tank facility, cutting back the termination date by two years to June 30, 2012.

    All this trouble and expense for the approximately one in 20 households in sparsely populated Maine that in using expensive propane as their primary heating fuel  account for two thirds of the state’s total use? DCP seldom seems to issue a statement about its intentions for the Searsport project without combining spin if not outright deception. Indeed, the company whose very acronym of a name suggests ticker tape code for the word “deception,” actually claims it wishes to spend so much money, presumably at least $43 million, for the very purpose of assuring Mainers of an unbroken supply of propane from abroad should there be a wintertime interruption in domestic and Canadian supplies. 

    That’s strange.  In just the past five years the energy picture in North America has undergone a technological revolution. New horizontal boring techniques and the development of controversial fracking to release vast quantities of heretofore unrecoverable gas and petroleum in shale formations have this past year returned the United States to being a net exporter of petroleum products — for the first time in 62 years!

    We now have so much natural gas being produced that propane use is declining as homeowners in areas increasingly serviced by pipelines convert their heating systems to take advantage of this significantly cheaper fuel. At the same time, so much additional propane is being produced, both as a contaminant to be removed to purify natural gas for use and as one of the byproducts of petroleum fractionating, that the industry is now sending it out of the country, NOT importing it.

    The National Petroleum Council is a quasi-government agency serving the American oil and gas industry. In a working paper on industry developments published just four months ago, the NPC observed the dramatic turnaround in domestic production of petroleum products in general and in NGLs (natural gas liquids including propane, butane and ethane) specifically. The paper focuses in part on extraction operations in the Marcellus  Shale Basin, which extends eastward from Ohio across Pennsylvania and New York State, an area not traditionally serviced by pipeline gathering networks, refineries and distribution facilities.  “Tremendous growth in natural gas production in North America,” the paper goes on to note, “has resulted in significant NGL production growth…NGL production in the Marcellus will create additional challenges since the Northeast region lacks infrastructure to bring the NGLs to market.”

    The petroleum industry paper comments on the decline in domestic  propane use, tying it directly to the now strongly competitive price and availablity of natural gas, and concludes, “The propane export market should therefore be robust.”

    Do I need to draw anyone a picture?

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