MORRILL, Maine — A Morrill family that escaped a trailer fire at the end of December is under investigation by the state after officials received allegations of animal neglect.
Several pets were killed in the fire, but family members, who have since moved into a new trailer with at least 16 surviving dogs, deny any wrongdoing. They say there’s no law against keeping many animals as long as they are cared for correctly. But a concerned woman who created an online petition earlier this month because of the fire would like the state to create a law against animal hoarding. She has already gathered more than 250 signatures.
“We’re going to get the laws changed,” Joanne Carl of Brooks, who started the change.org petition, said recently. “This is an animal hoarding issue. I think this needs to become public … I would like to talk about animal hoarding and how a devastating fire, locally, has brought to light a severe issue. You neglect an animal, it’s a form of abuse.”
On Dec. 28, a fire sparked by a malfunctioning circuit breaker gutted the Hartshorn Road trailer that was home to four people and more than two dozen pets. Becky Nibby, Pamela Nibby, Eleanor Hartshorn and Betsy LeSan, who are all related, and some pets were able to escape, but a dog, two cats, a macaw, two rabbits, two ferrets and four chinchillas perished in the blaze. LeSan’s mother, who lived in another trailer next door, took the women and some of their surviving animals in after the fire to live with her. For a while, eight people and many animals were staying in a home with no running water, heat or electricity. But community, family members and groups like the Red Cross pulled together for the family, providing them with food, clothes, heat, pet food, portable toilets and ultimately a new trailer.
“The community has been really great with us,” Becky Nibby said Wednesday in a telephone interview. “They’ve been constantly checking in. We can’t be more grateful.”
Some of their dogs stayed temporarily in a Knox County animal shelter, but have since been returned to the family.
“The dogs are very grateful they’re all back together again,” Becky Nibby said, her voice underscored by the sounds of barking and yipping dogs.
She took umbrage at the suggestion that the animals were abused or neglected, and said that the family has been working with the local animal control officer and also a state agent who works for the Maine Animal Welfare Program. Officials have been checking on the animals several times a week, she said.
“There’s not a thing wrong with any of our dogs,” Becky Nibby said. “We were told it didn’t matter how many dogs we have … I’ve got things to do besides being ridiculed for how many dogs we have.”
In addition to the dogs, the family has cats, birds and a turtle. Many of the animals were rescued from bad situations, she said.
Sandra Peeler, the Animal Control Officer for Morrill, said the family has been cooperative.
“They are all in great shape,” she said of the dogs.
Because the investigation is ongoing, she said she couldn’t discuss the case in more detail. No charges have been filed, according to Liam Hughes, the director of the Maine Animal Welfare Program.
“We are gathering information. We can’t share particulars until a case is either closed or goes to court,” he said. “Speaking in general terms here, when it comes to hoarding, it is a very difficult thing to recognize, prosecute or resolve. Prosecution alone will not solve the problem.”
Hughes confirmed that there is no law against hoarding, or having many animals. There are laws, however, against neglecting or abusing animals.
They are aimed at ensuring that the animals are kept in humane, clean conditions, with enough food and veterinary care.
Hughes said state authorities are continuing to monitor the situation in Morrill and to work with the town to resolve any issues.
“We’re going to keep looking into it to make sure that the animals and people stay in compliance with the laws,” Hughes said.
But Carl, and the people who have so far signed the petition, believe that more should be done by authorities to stop the problem of animal hoarding and any related neglect or abuse.
According to the petition, animal hoarding is “very prominent” in Maine.
“The resources are not there to help the animals, so we as people have to make people accountable for actions but also have to get the hoarders the help they need for this disease,” it states.
After the fire, Carl took in the family’s pony, which she described as being 150 pounds underweight and living in its own feces. She also took in their goats, which she said were being kept in a crate. She now has ownership of the farm animals.
“There’s a problem,” Carl said. “They need to lose those animals.”
In response to these claims, Nibby said that before the fire, the family had been spending a lot of time at Eastern Maine Medical Center in Bangor with her aunt, who was in critical condition.
“When I was in Bangor, I called several of my neighbors to see if they could keep an eye on [the pony and goats],” she said. “Nobody at that time was able to care for them.”
So while the animals were fed, their stalls weren’t cleaned out much during that time, she said. She did not agree that the pony was 150 pounds underweight.
“He ate good,” Nibby said.
Hughes said the state looks at instances of reported animal neglect or abuse on a case-by-case basis.
“There are a fair share of hoarding cases here in Maine,” he said. “It seems like it might be easier for someone to cut themselves off from the world here. There are isolated areas in the state.”
State agents work to protect animals and to get people who need help access to resources.
“It is a very complicated issue,” he said of hoarding in general. “There could be mental issues. There could be economic issues. There’s a lot of reasons why the situation could have gotten out of hand.”
His office aims to educate and to help people struggling to manage their animals get down to a reasonable number.
“Some people are very grateful there are people in the world who are willing to help them. They were hiding. They were embarrassed,” he said. “Other people are combative. They don’t think there was a problem.”



I didnt even read the article. I just got done contacting animal welfare for abuse and neglect against animals that i tried to rescue but had taken away by pd and animal cotnrol officer and given back to the losers who were hoarding them. THese type of people make me sick, maybe if more animal abuse was reported and people were charged then nasty people like this would think twice about treating animals like garbage. THROW THE BOOK AT THEM
The article states that all the animals are in great condition. This comment was from animal control, not the owners.
‘according the the owners’, what else are they going to say? duh!
No, wrong again, read the article.
I didn’t even read the article because I’ve seen these animals first hand on my ex-inlaws property after they get loose, or are eating out of our dumpsters and the look mangy- nasty. I probably would have shot a few if i was the type of person who could do that, just to put them out of their misery.
What a shame.
I agree that it is way too many people and pets in a small space.
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Aren’t they all on some kind of disability? There should be a question on food stamp application regarding animals. if they can’t afford to feed themselves how can they feed all these animals. Should be some kind of limit.
Discriminating against the disabled is against the law.
You don’t know that they are eligble for food stamps and it is none of your darn business.
It certainly is his and ‘our’ business; we pay those benefits!
Your wrong again. Disabled people do have rights, that apparently you are unaware of.
TRUST ME, they are…..
I wonder why so many people would want to live all crowded up like that. Personal space is a nice thing to have.
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The United States of America is a democracy. Things don’t work like that here.
When they apply for food stamps they are required to list ALL income and their benefits are awarded accordingly. The amount of money spent to feed all those animals should be considered in figuring their benefit amount and would probably make them ineligible due to misspent income. It is not discrimination…it is helping the unfortunate learn how to spent their money wisely. Every subsidized housing unit has a limit of how many animals tenants can have. There are limitations when you get money from the government; plain and simple.
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A police state is one in which the government exercises rigid and
repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the
population; none of which apply to this situation. If fact I think society is trying to help these folks out of a repressive situation.
Search their homes for pets! While your at it we could follow China’s lead and limit how many children people are allowed to have.
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Apparently there are no limitations when it comes to food stamps and pets so what are you talking about? Pets have nothing to do with food stamp eligibility. They look at a persons income and family size. No need to try and twist around what you originally said.
They do not live in subsidized housing either.
Again, let me mention that this is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. We don’t get to tell people what to eat or tell them that they can not share it.
WOW!! if u r on disability then u have limited income and no way u can feed these animals normally or healthy what about vaccines r they vaccinated r they lisenced ect…… i would sign the petition.
They may be treated better than most children for all you really know. Don’t assume.
I have first hand knowlegde of the condition these animals were in from where I work. They were brought in in terrible condition and in most cases too late.
I am sorry to hear that. Something needs to be done in that case.
If you can’t (or can barely) take care of yourself then maybe you shouldn’t have 20 animals…What is wrong with people?
Count again. 12 died and they still have 16.
One or two is good, 20 is bad!!!
There actually is a law against how many dogs you can have, you can only have so many (i cant remember how many) before you have to get a kennel license…….
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The kennel license law applies if you have more than 5 unaltered female dogs or cats capable of breeding.
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Exactly – these folks should be required to have a kennel license that also requires annaul inspections. §3923-C. Kennel license
1. License necessary. A person having 5 or
more dogs for the purposes set forth in section 3907, subsection 17
shall obtain a kennel license from the clerk of the municipality where
the dogs are kept and that person is subject to rules adopted by the
department. The sex, registered number and description are not required
for the dogs covered by a kennel license.
If the people are not in good shape than how in the world could the animals be ? In a trailer w/o water ? Come on, these folks need help as well as the animals. Best to do something now so it isn’t so heartbreaking later.
amen!
Eight people living together in a trailer, but they had over two dozen pets. Maybe they could have improved their living conditions if they hadn’t acquired all those animals to feed and care for.
You are an ugly individual, as well as anyone else who “liked” your comment. Your disregard for life, I believe, will get you ‘some ‘splainin’ to do when you stand before the Creator.
I agree that was an ugly comment about putting the animals down, but I don’t think that a massive explosion really cares one way or another because explosions do not have thought.
Whats a Creator? Is that an imaginary friend of yours?
Oops…. Someone flagged him!
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If you read title 7 of the Maine statues you will find although there are no numbers so to speak that there are space and other restrictions that would limit how many pets you can have. You just have to complain in the right manner
Before posting to this story, try taking a look at the picture of the pony that was removed from the property. It was disturbing, as best. Very, very sad.
he only had bird hawks on him and that is all he walked in them many times and we brushed him out that is not our fault that he did that so just shujt up and ,leave them alone
Good!!! They had the sickest, nastiest animals. I felt SOOO bad for the animals, not the people. Their animals were always coming over and attacking or causing problems. getting into our garage and dumpster. The horses looked awful… as well as the rest of them. If you can’t take care of your animals, give them to someone who CAN!!
I do feel bad about their home, i wouldnt wish that on anyone, but I guess i just don’t think it’s right to have so many animals when you can barely take care of yourself. :(
Are there pictures of the horses??? If so how can I find/see them. I like and agree with your comments.
here is one- it is living in Brooks with Joanne Carl. The poor, poor horse never received proper treatment and is now disabled. I’m not sure if I head right but it may have to be put down.
http://www.change.org/petitions/animal-hoarding
I signed the petition and hopefully many more will.
I disagree. Some people’s animals are like their children- My pug was. I don’t have children. I think you should have to give your children away or have them put down if you are applying for assistance. I see what you are getting at, but i disagree. In their case, yes, but not in all.
did you have 16+ animals and were you depending on someone else to feed you and your pets?
I think you didnt get what i meant, but no.. i would feed my animals before myself and i WORKED for my $.
Obviously I agree there is a problem, read my other comments.
OK, enough of this BS.
Unless you see personally that an animal is ill or starving, its none of your damn business. And you don’t get to decide who can have how any animals. Its none of your damn business.
Let me tell you a little about myself. I receive SSD, which I paid for during my 35yrs of employment. I take care of an elderly relative. In our home we have five dogs and five cats that we have rescued over the years. Our house and yard are clean. Our animals are well fed and taken to the vet if they are ill. We get their shots from the county as do most of the local residents in our rural county.
We have a large fenced yard. Our dogs never leave that yard unless they are on a leash. Our cats are indoor cats. We also care for a large feral colony that has a territory that overlaps our property. Of those animals we have had a number spayed and neutered. The colony has reached the point of stability.
All of the animals we own are rescues. The dogs were taken from either abusive homes or were severely neglected. The indoor cats were all injured or dying when we took them in. They are/were all special needs pets. All of our animals are well socialized and gentle, in spite of how they got started in life.
We don’t have much money. We take no government assistance only our social security. We live frugally and what money we save we use to take care of the pets, (we help people too who find themselves in need.) We make much of the food we feed our pets, it is much cheaper and healthier. We supplement that food with good kibble brands that have added vitamins.
I/we are not hoarders. We simply believe that the Creator charged us with caring for the earth and her children, that includes the cats, dogs, fishes, ferrets, etc. There were no stipulations or caveats.
I understand completely that there are animal hoarders and it is part of a mental illness. But not everyone who takes in and cares for animals is a hoarder. The difference is being able to understand one’s situation and act on it accordingly. If the time should come that we cannot care for our pets we have we will make other arrangements for them, as we have in the past for animals that we could not keep. We find them good forever homes. But we will not have them put down as a previous post suggested as a viable alternative. (some people!)
Anyway, back to the beginning of my post, the none of your business part. Instead of berated these people for their lifestyle, if you know they are struggling then as a neighbor, especially if you call yourself a Christian as many of you do, you should first offer assistance if you see a problem. Then, if there is no remedy you can try to get outside help.
“When did you walk amongst us Lord?” the man asked. I think in this case the answer might be “When you saw your neighbor struggling and overwhelmed and did not stoop to help.”
I lived next door to you….
I agree that if you cannot afford the cost of a pet, you shouldn’t have one. I think the same thing applies to children. Too many innocent lives are ruined because of the rights of those who ruin them. That said, if you are able to take care of multiple animals, I see no reason to limit that number based on other peoples’ abilities.
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What this article does not cover is that this is the second time this family has lost a large number of companion animals in a fire. And in addition to having all of their dogs returned to them – they have acquired two more new dogs that are living chained out on their property. Sadly – now that the town and ACO has helped this family clean up and vet their animals – it will be difficult for the state to step in to remove the animals and offer a better life to them.
Nobody in Maine should be leaving dogs outside on a chain.
that is none of your business and they havent taken in any new dogs so just shut the f up
yes they have a shepherd and a black and white 10 month old pitbull they are registered to your family which by the way were obtained after the fire when the other dogs were at the shelter and calling the shelters to see what they have shame on you. I am all for defending your family as I also did in another post but call it as it is. No more lies! Also it is everyones business that cares for the humane treatment of the animals.
They have acquired a new German Shepherd and a Pit Bull that are now living chained up outside. Are you sure you know this family?
A real Mainer would never talk abut putting an animal down with out good reason! We need our pets,, not a dozen but one or two is company. I have 6 birds, all given to me because people don’t understand how much work it is to care for them. I will accept any bird offered to me. Please people, have your animals fixed, don’t take on more than you need and can care for!!
I have worked hard my whole life, paid taxes and now because of a spine disease I am on disability. I have 6 cats and 2 dogs (all of which are rescues and I have paid to have fixed). I buy food, and frontline, and have a vet who takes a payment plan. 3 of the cats in my home are unfriendly former ferals who would be put to sleep otherwise due to their unadoptability. What gives you people the right to judge how I spend my money (that I also paid into for many years). Put yourself in someone elses shoes……maybe tomorrow you find out that you have some disease that to no fault of your own leaves you disabled…..I dont think you would rush off to the vet and kill your pets…..or maybe you would??? If that is the case you are heartless and no one cares what you have to say!
How can so many adults live together in a trailer with all these animals? There can’t be much room for anyone to move around. They live so primitively life must be very difficult. Not to be unkind, but they all look like they eat well. It is beyond comprehension.
They have many of the dogs living chained up outside. The smaller dogs are living in crates in the second trailer.
How many animals are there? That is not right.
Are the dogs licensed? Have the animals had their shots? Are the animals full of fleas?
Lock them all up, they have fleas!
It’s a witch hunt.
No – the town has now assisted this family in getting their animals up to date on shots as well as providing spay/neuter vouchers for them…
well u all wanna know something they are my family and they are really great with their animals they buy all there dog food and they get like six to eight bags of dog food every month the animals have all their shots and they are spayed and neutered and like i said they are really taken care off and they dont any more crap from the people or from the paper
please understand these animals had nothing until the state stepped in and gave notice to comply. I understand they love their pets. Hay was being donated for pony, communtiy members were being asked for food for the animals had not eaten for weeks. Also before you make comments about the pony i have pics would you like to see them he is covered in dry feces hooves like skis, matted and underweight according to vet. Severe lameness due to no hoof care and also ask neighbors they witnessed it all for years so before you get defensive just stop it is what it is. I am glad they are in compliance now just keep taking care of them. thanks
The town is paying for the shots and spay/neuters for the animals – as well as providing food currently.
Goodevening all. Ok I am the one in the article to change laws about animal hoarding. I am the one that is so disappointed in some of these comments. I am the one that looks into the eyes everyday of the pony and goats. I am the one that feels this is not about what assistance these people get from anywhere. I am the one caring for these animals and understand I get social security for my daughter for I lost my husband to cancer so does that mean I should lose my animals? I so believe this is an illness of hoarding and if some of you did the research before passing judgement you would understand. I to am angry that these animals are in the conditions they are in so now take all your energy and make a difference. Love comes from all different aspects and their love comes from their pets. This family has always been ousted by community and feel the animals are their community. This is an illness and needs to be treated with support and knowledge to the understanding that downsizing would be very good for the welbeing of these individuals. So just please think before you post ok. I have been there since day four after the fire and lets just say make sure your local ACO officer does their job as they are trained and not let her personal feelings get involved.
Does anyone also realize that these people have been caught on video and convicted of stealing money from a small local business???