It’s one thing to see the value of real estate plummet when the economy tanks and no one is buying. But having value decline, or even disappear altogether, because state government enacted a new regulation rightly inspires outrage.
But allowing landowners to sue the state to recover value lost through regulations, as is proposed in LD 1810, sponsored by Rep. Andre Cushing, R-Hampden, is the wrong fix. Legislators sympathetic to such landowners instead should push for a better vetting process of regulations so such “takings” are few and far between.
In the abstract, a “taking” is tragic. Let’s say you’d purchased a piece of land years ago with the hopes of building a few houses on it to then sell. The proceeds would provide retirement income. But last year, the state changed a law so that now no house can be built on the land, perhaps because a greater setback from wetland requirement was adopted.
The problems, though, may be more hypothetical than real. In the mid-1990s, when another takings bill was considered by the Legislature, a study group examined the problem. In response, it created a state-run mediation program to consider waivers for those whose property was devalued by new regulations. It did not see a flood of requests, but rather something closer to a handful of cases.
A different flood would follow if LD 1810 wins passage: lawsuits. The cost of settling could be in the millions or tens of millions, believes Pete Didisheim, advocacy director for the Natural Resources Council of Maine.
Peter Mills, a Republican former legislator, headed up the study group examining the problem in the mid-1990s. He submitted written testimony on LD 1810 which encapsulates its flaws:
“No one seems able to draft a takings statute that makes sense,” Mr. Mills wrote. “That is not the fault of the drafters. It’s the impossibility of the undertaking.” He describes the process by which a property owner can easily make the case that a parcel has lost at least half its value — the threshold for recourse in the bill. The state then has 60 days to dispute that value, even though it has no access to the property.
A further problem, Mr. Mills argues, is that though the law directs that the entire parcel be taken into account, the owner could first split the land “in order to concentrate the impacts into affected parcels he creates.”
Then Mr. Mills hones in on the bill’s probable aim: “The primary impact — and its intended impact — is to stymie regulation for the benefit of large landowners with ample resources to paralyze state agencies. That is, in fact, how takings laws have been used in the few states that have enacted them. It’s not a statute for the little guy.”
Sixty years ago, Mr. Mills writes, “the rivers of Maine were open sewers.” The shorefront zoning and water quality laws enacted in the early 1970s in response initially hurt landowners. “Had a takings law been in effect, these laws … might never have been implemented,” he notes. And ironically, riverfront land “has increased in value beyond anyone’s imagination” because the water is clean.
Rep. Cushing, in explaining his reasons for proposing takings legislation, said he wanted “to put the Legislature on notice. When they enact a broad, sweeping law, they will have to consider the effect on property owners.”
That’s a legitimate concern, but a better way to address it is to maintain an open public hearing process on new laws and to limit rule-making by agencies that regulate land use.



Why should the government be able to destroy a persons assets with impunity?
Why should one person be able to destroy our air, our water, and our soil with impunity?
If they do, they are breaking laws already on the books, and can be prosecuted and sued under those. Also it’s usually a business or corporation that is responsible, not single people.
So for the sake of your argument, let’s say 50 years ago someone had a fully functioning asbestos mine and was dumping the asbestos into the atmosphere with impunity. Since they had applied to all laws in existence at the time they owned their property that when it was found that asbestos was killing people they should be allowed to still dump asbestos into the environment?
I believe if you educated yourself to what happened when asbestos was found to be cancerous you would find that it was made illegal, that it ceased to be “dumped” into the environment, and that the lawsuits that were filed as a result resulted in most the offending corporations going bankrupt as a result of the settlements. People are still suing over asbestos exposure 50 years ago. You might also learn of the great effort made by the industries affected to remove it from their mills, and plants.
You attempt to confuse my original reply with your drivel highlights your ignorance on the subject.
So then you are in agreement that the state does not have to pay landowners for the lost value of their land when new laws and regulations are thought to cause a decline in property value? Perfect, we are on the same page then.
So, if you own waterfront property or a small stream flows through your property, you have no objection to the neighbor up stream dumping their sewage in the water? They own the property and they can do whatever they please?
I want to build a pig farm and methadone clinic next door to you.
My land and no one ca tell me what to do on it.
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Can we have Barbeque and get high?
Will there be Beer?
Dear Clam Cove,
You are right government shouldn’t be able to do that .and the point here is that in Maine they haven’t and aren’t planning to. Has it happened to you? Has your land been condemned because of a change in land use or the implementaion of an emissions law or a safety law? Do you personally know anyone this has happened to?
A mediation process was set up several years ago so that any Mainer who feels they have suffered unfair devalutaion of their land can be heard and get a fair settlement without a lawyer. So far statewide only 11 people have sought relief, 6 withdrew their application and 5 got settled.
When a land use law or enviornemntal law is passed that affects existing uses and operations there is almost always an equitable accomodation on existing uses. They are usually “grandfathered” if it involves no helath and saftey hazrad. For example all the existing buildings
within the shoreland zone were allowed to stay and even be rebuilt or modestly expand the foot print so those owners actually receieved a huge “gift” of increased property value by being “grandfathered” All existing uses were gardfatered in the unnorganiized territories when the land use plan was adopted. That’s standard operating procedure in land use.
Yeah of course you hear a bill title that suggests that government condemns prvate proerty to preseve butterfly habitat and you get all excited about the idea of that. Fearful it might happen to you.
But civic engagement, being responsible citizens in a democrcay that could still be about self goverance calls on us to ask questions, to seek the truth, use your own wisdom, our own common sense. We must think it through on our own..
When we don’t do that as citizens, when we simply have an automatic response to an idea we run the risk of offering support for a bill like this thinking we are looking out for the little guy , standing for a principle we believe deeply in, but are really just handing our lives our futures our communities over to big predatory corporations.
Why should a person expect a gauranteed return on investment without risk!
I missed that part, where did you read that someone expected a risk free rate of return??
That seems to be what this bill is all about. If you invested in the property expecting to use that for financial gain, you can sue the State for enacting regulations that might affect that parcel and hurt the gain that you were anticipating.
I agree this bill is in bad form. Can I sue the government for imposing regulations on businesses which eventually hurt my investment portfolio? Nope. Shouldn’t be able to do it with land either.
A good point. It recognizes that for many of us, certainly in my baby boomer generation, our property i s our largest single asset. We count on it to outpace inflation and to be a major cornerstone of our retirement, of what we can leave our children.
So in that sense we are all”property speculators” “investors” and we have “investment risks” just like big investors.
But I have not seen landuse or other health and safety initaives here in Maine (or anywhere else) that are just effectively condemning peoples property. It just doesn’t happen. It hasn’t happened. It’s not one of our investment risks as homeowners who count on our property to keep pace with inflation and provide rate of return than a savings account.
I’ve suggested before that making a property assessment a bona fide offer by the assessing agency to buy the property for 90% of the assessed value would be a good way of keeping valuations in line with the real-world value of the property. Why not extend this principle to property which may or may not have been devalued by regulation, by requiring the regulating agency, at the owner’s request, to buy the property for 90% of its assessed value? If the property isn’t really devalued, the agency can easily make its money back plus a little: if it is devalued then the owner is compensated and the agency gets properly nipped. And if the agency requests that the property be reassessed at a new, lower value then the owner has a basis for seeking compensation.
I’d like to sell my property for 90%. I can’t even figure out how to ask for an abatement even though real estate prices have dropped in Dover. It is up to the property owner to prove this and all the town says is we are in line with the State. Big government attitude, pass the buck, don’t help unless the person can afford a lawyer.
It is a great game played by the state, and towns and taxpayers are forced to play it. The state reduces its support to towns (yes, another issue), and the towns cry Foul. The state points back and says their properties are not properly valued, driving new assessments. Land values have been tanking in Washington County for years, and somehow my place’s value goes up?
I think this editorial pretty clearly outlines the problems. Now you will remember a BDN article not too far back that quoted Mr. Cushing’s admiration for ALEC. I think if you will look at their model bills you just might see one like this. Now why would corporations be asking legislators to pass laws like this? Anyone want to take a stab at it? Did not take long to find the ‘model’ bill. It is called The Private Property Protection Bill, filed under Environment Bills at ALECexposed.org.
Dear Kayak Momma,
Thank you so much for mentuining ALEC. ALEC appears to have infiltrated the Maine legislature.even though at their site there is no mention of Maine or Maine members.
It purports to be a national association for “professionalization” of state legislators but is actually funded by, and created for influence peddling by huge coprorations , mostly oil and real estate interests. They push their agenda through “canned legislation” and “regulatory Takings” has been a center piece of their ational influence peddling agenda for several years now.
For a small annual membership fee members ( but not you or I) have access to an online super market of canned legislation and guidance on how to sell it back home. Their professional “conferences” which have very modest fees are lavishly subsidizedby the oil and real estate sponsors of ALEC. The conference sessions are really presentations by industry lobbyists.
Find out more on your own and form your own opinion. In addition to the above there is http://www.alecwatch.com.
Based on my research on ALEC to date, I .check every bill that comes up very carefully against the ALEC agenda..if its an ALEC bill and your reps are carrying this, supporting this, they are on the corprorate take, agents for big corporations and not for you, your family, your children, your aging parents, your job security, your retirement security.
We need to clean house in our legislature.
Out every single ALEC affiliated legsilator.
Dump them as soon as posisble and meanwhile let them know you are on to them.
Send a resounding “no” on every single ALEC initiative that comes up in our legislature. (That will keep you busy).
You people are a riot.
While you’re hyperventilating over ALEC, you always seem to conveniently ignore the left-wing Progressive States Network which provides model legislation and guidebooks for socialist legislators countrywide. In other words, it’s ALEC for Marxists:
The Other ACORN: Progressive States Network
http://the-classic-liberal.com/acorn-progressive-states-network/
ALEC is not the only vehicle for theinterests of large out of state coorporations to exert their influence on our legsularive process.gshows no Maine members.
Americans for Limited Government, a front for Howie Rich and mostly real estate development intrests and through many of Rich’s other lobbying entities also active in Maine Legislative actions. Rich has been a financer and sponsor of Regulatory Takings in 6 states. Rich through his various fronts was a player in Maine TABOR.
The exact same canned legislation is coming to us from many different “fronts” from big out of state corporations eyeing maine’s natural resources and vast undeveloped lands..
Also for the record wanted to note that the details of this legsilation were , according to many recently published accounts, penned by an attorney at Pierce Atwood representing among other avaricious big international companies, Nestle ( Poland Spring) and a major real estate association. So it wasn’t “canned” in the sense of off the shelf word for word..but “canned” in the sense of being a key legislative initiative advanced by out of state big corporate interests.
You can be sure if André Cushing is proposing it, it is for the interest of his wealthy sponsors. You may want to see if it’s part of the national republican agenda.
ALEC generates these kind of pro-business bills for the republicans. They pretty much corodinate the extremist anti-worker bills that we’ve seen the republicans introduce nationwide. They’re the band Laplague and his like march to.
Dick Cheney has to be behind it, too. I saw the Koch Brothers walking my neighbors woodlot….is there no end to their treachery?
Do you want the NYT article on ALEC or the Business Week article? They all say it is no coincidence that we are seeing the same kind of bills popping up all over in Republican majority legislatures.
I guess I would say, “So?” Do you think environmental and “social justice” initiatives here are wholly home grown? receive no national support? Or are Progressive advocates poorly organized and naive? It’s politics.
No, this is true grass roots legislation. To many old families in Maine, their land is their heritage and the value of that investment has been significantly eroded by some pretty extreme environmental legislation and rule making.
Then why is it among the ‘model’ bills crafted by corporations? Oh because that is another way to access taxpayer money. So you want me to pay for the ‘value’ in your property? And, if what you do on your property will in some way impact my quality of life then yes I want those environmental laws and rules in place.
Those of you against this bill obviously don’t own any land.
POlitically Right,
Could you give us one secific example that you know to be absoutely true? Of course protect the identity of the family, but I think actual examples are always very useful.
One lady testifued very tearfully at the Regulatory Takings hearing hat hse had suffered great financial loss over a “deer yard grazing” designation.I trcaked it back to discover that the lady had been manipulated through a fear monegring pamphlet on a local issue and without checking the truth of that herself had concluded that she was indeed at great risk and suffered great financial loss.
So I hope your story will be complet and accurate and I would like to know of one concrete example in Maine that necessitates this bill?
“Property rights is a cornerstone principal a grass roots principle,
There has been no threat no pattern of violation of that in Maine.
http://www.thestateofmaine.org/rep-andre-cushing-may-have-billed-taxpayers-for-personal-expenses-he-didnt-incur/
I don’t see any big money in Mr. Cushings Campaign contributions ( even though he is opposed to and even litigated Maine’s fair election law…all little $500 and under in terms of money
The above blog though suggests an ALEC connection through his PAC .
The big coprorate influence is often bill by bill.with massive outside financing flowing in for ads to defeat local initaives that are not in the interests of the outside interests. ( for example $250,000 came from one source to defeat Maine’s referendum on same day registration.. a huge “vote no” campaign. ( no conncetion to Mr.Cushing implied or intended)
“limit rule-making by agencies that regulate land use.”
Needs to be done either way.
“But last year, the state changed a law so that now no house can be built on the land, perhaps because a greater setback from wetland requirement was adopted.”
The hypothetical shown above is a pretty good one, since “wetland protection” is a common weapon used by environmentalists to erect barriers to development of any kind. On Cape Cod, where I used to live, it’s pretty much gotten to the point where if a dog urinates in your front yard it’s declared a “wetland”; and your property use is restricted, causing loss of value. Same thing here in Maine, in many areas.
Most property owners don’t have either the time or money to fight off the assault on their property rights, and the environmentalists are counting on just that. Passing this bill will (to use a favorite liberal phrase) “level the playing field.”
” . . where if a dog urinates in your front yard it’s declared a “wetland” ”
That would make it a “saltwater wetland” and the dog a part of the protected key indigenous fauna. LOL !
Get out the BB gun, hose it down, spread loam and reseed.
OH No, I didn’t get all the licenses, permits and “studies” done.
Google “Agenda 21” They want total control and subjugation.
Oh yeah, I’ve been following the Agenda 21 monster for years.
They think far into the future, these totalitarians.
I think the real problem is the seemingly arbitrary way regulations are established by one gaggle of misguided aristocracy-bureaucrats, and then enforced by another handful of misguided bully-bureaucrats all around the state -regardless how -unfit to the situation- the regulations really are.
Mainers, real Mainers who live here, are rapidly being excluded from building anywhere in Maine. It is just too expensive due to all the unnecessary regulation and mandates put on landowners and would-be home builders.
Plus, about 50% of Maine bureaucrats are smelly gorillas -just simply not suited to any work in which they come in contact with the public.
Nowadays, you had better have a job on Wall Street that pays a six-figure salary with a substantial bonus potential, AND have a lawyer on retainer -if you want to build something in Maine. The jump-through hoops are incredible and interminable (never-ending).
MDOT told me recently I would have to purchase $1200 in culverts, and pay a dirt man to cover them over -to regain access along the 330 feet of road frontage I have along a 22 acre parcel in Unorganized Connor Twp.
I lost my historic access 20 years ago -when MDOT ditched right across my woods road and left me with a mud hole in their ditch at the top of the hill where my parcel located. There is no need for any culvert because I am at the top of a hill where no water can drain down on the road frontage.
They say -use 18 inch culverts-. It is a hill of gravel, and I am at the top of it. There is NEVER any water.
The only reason I have to spend all that money is, this is what MDOT is telling me to do.
Spend the money -they say. But the truth is, mine is a project that has been stopped dead in its tracks because -there is no telling how expensive what I am trying to do is going to get. Under those circumstances, who would proceed? Only a fool or a millionaire’s nasty wife.
The reasonableness of these regulations is not part of any mindset-component of a state worker, unless of course you know someone who can pull strings and get things done.
Maine regulations often lead to the unmistakable appearance-potential of a criminal component to enforcement or non-enforcement in DEP, Forestry, Highway and Building permits.
How many times have landowners been told, you cannot build here -due to regulations- only to sell their land for a pittance to see someone else with money and connections build in exactly the same spot?
Ouch that last sentence, if true, needs to be investigated. Cronyism in Augusta? Where are the people with integrity? Why are they not speaking up?
Because they are Democrats.
if you feel your property has been codemned by requirements to comply with a regulation enacted since you purchsed your property, I hope you will seek help through the Mediation process that has been set up. There already is a process for dispute resolution.
Regulations and laws that affect the use enjoyment and profit from one’s own property should be about defining those actions or activities where that adversely affects the community or impinges on the rights of other owners, eg causing them to have flooded lands by doing development in a way that does not have proper drainage.
A land use plan is not usually imposed or cooked up behind closed doors they are the result of a long process with local inout and hearings over a long period of time. Their purpose isn’t to deprive any one of anything but to avoid disputes and give owners a bit of certainty about what might happen around them over the long term when they buy a property.
A land use plan is an expression of what the community as a whole has agreed to live by..what new owners and investors will be expected to live by. It actually serves to protect your investment by setting out in advance what you can reasonably expect to be happening around you.
It’s like a living contract enforced on your behalf by the officials you pay to represent and protect your interests.
Nom conforming existing uses are almost always grandfathered or given a time frame for compliance if its about public health and safety.
I wonder if this was brainstormed at the ALEX meeting Mr. Cushing attended earlier this year on the taxpayers’ dime?
Nothing but bluster and inanity from the Hampden representatives!
Just so people know, I think you met ALEC. Yes, this is one of their ‘model’ bills. A model for how to skim off taxpayers dollars.
This is another case of bailing out speculators like wall-street, it sounds. If you have hte funds to invest, that investment comes with risks. Did Bruce or Paul loose money on some investment land?
Mr. Mills,
A voice of wisdom, reason, truth and civility on this. Thank you Rep. Mills.
This was a “trojan horse” bill. It purports to be about “we the people”, about protecting our rights and interests and in fact it was drafted by attorney’s representing huge exploitative companies like Netsle (Poland Spring Water), Waste Mnagement Companies, Oil & Pegtroluem interests and Real Estate Developers . “Regulatory takings” have been a key legislative initiative of many lobbying interests for these huge companies all over America. It is an anti land use, anti community planning, aniti evioronnmental protection, anti conservation bill.
There is no history of aggrieved Mainers having their land effectively condmened by local ordinances, or state law outside of actual takings under eminent domain.for highways , bridge cacesses etc. This didn’t arise from hundreds of instances of Mainers unfairly penalized by local or state land use lawns .It came from insider influence and big corporate money..persistent corporate money..this was the second try.
People think the battle to get lobbyists and big coprorations out of goverbance and our elctoral process is only in washington ..that it’s all about Citizens United. But its all about bills like this,canned legislation by outside corporate interestes pushing bills like this as part of a national corporate agenda , canned pre packaged legislation specifically targeted to State’s like Maine with vast natural resources.The battle to retake control from big predatory corporations is right here in Maine in “outing” bills like this and those we have elected to represent us who, through bills like this, are the agents of predatory corporations like Nestle.
Our work is right here at home.
Four other Maine issues in the news recently that are also “trojan horses” also the work of corporate influence are (1) the LURC “Reform Bill”..another anti land use bill seeking corporate control of Maine’s vast northern wilderness tthrough complete de regulation and (2) the Searsport Tank Issue..your legislature via the Joint Standing Committee on Energy just completely deregulated all LPG in the State of Maine to faciitate that tank leaving Miane with the most vulnerable and irresponsible staturtory and regulator frameworks for oversight of LPG in the nation. That legislation, thank you Maine Energy Committee came straight out of white paper by the National Petroleum GasAssociation also packaged and “sold” to states like Maine nationwide.as canned Who do you think engineered that?(3) I smell another “trojan horse in this free private East West Highway from Calais to Canada. (4) Possible trojan horse in the LD420 a bill to authorize and put out for referendum a $200,000,000 bond for creation of a container port on Sears Island.
The public hears in this “jobs jobs jobs”..but there are no jobs..no local jobs anyway. Look carefully, ask questions, don’t be manipulated by fear..Don’t make the assumption that a $40 million project means prosperity for you or your community. Use common sense. Do you personally know one person who has actually suffered effective condemnation of their property by any land use law in Maine?
Please take the time to email your state senator and state rep on this and also the Committee.
I think we should do away with deer and moose season and start open season on politicians, no bag limit! The American people have reached the limit of endurance with idiots in office.