MILLINOCKET, Maine — Maine Attorney General William Schneider has been asked to determine whether Gov. Paul LePage can legally withhold $216,000 in Sudden and Severe Impact funds from Millinocket.

Rep. Herbert Clark, D-Millinocket, said he is challenging LePage’s actions on behalf of the School Department and Town Council.

“I am requesting an official legal opinion from your office as to whether the governor has the legal authority to intervene in the distribution of SIS funds if all of the other conditions specified in 36 MRSA 208-A are met,” Clark wrote in a letter to Schneider dated Thursday. “Additionally, why isn’t the governor required to follow the law and what legal recourse does the town of Millinocket have in order to get the remaining SIS funds released?”

Brenda Kielty, spokeswoman for the Maine Attorney General’s office, said the letter is being reviewed. She declined to comment further.

In a move she acknowledged as “hardball,” LePage spokeswoman Adrienne Bennett said Wednesday that LePage was allocating to East Millinocket and Millinocket $504,000 each in Sudden and Severe Impact funds, not the $720,000 Millinocket is entitled to, because Millinocket leaders broke an agreement to contribute $50,000 annually to the maintenance of the Dolby Landfill in East Millinocket.

A state check for $504,000 arrived in Millinocket by certified mail the next day.

Under state law, the state government is required to provide Sudden and Severe Impact funds to towns that suffer drastic losses to their tax base. Millinocket and East Millinocket are eligible for such funds because of the significant loss of taxable value the towns suffered with the sale of the two Katahdin region paper mills to the new Great Northern Paper Co. last year.

Millinocket councilors said Thursday they agreed only to a one-year $50,000 payment and that LePage lied in claiming otherwise as part of an attempt to bully them out of funds the town deserves.

They had the $504,000 check stored in the town vault and said they have asked Clark to submit a bill seeking the Legislature’s permission to sue the LePage administration. Under Maine law, the Legislature must agree that a municipality has grounds to sue the state.

During Thursday’s council meeting, Town Manager Eugene Conlogue released more than 20 pages of correspondence between state and town officials that he said proved Millinocket agreed only to a one-time $50,000 payment toward the landfill. In none of the documents do town officials speak of a partnership requiring annual payments.

On Friday, Bennett said state officials are assembling a timeline of documents to illustrate their side of the town-state Dolby negotiations. Bennett said she regretted that Millinocket’s leaders had called LePage a bully and said that he had lied.

“It was unfortunate that Mr. Conlogue and council members had to resort to name-calling when it has been clear that this governor has fought for the Katahdin region for more than a year now,” Bennett said.

Bennett declined to comment on whether the governor has the legal authority to change Millinocket’s Sudden and Severe Impact payout.

LePage, Bennett said, believes the $504,000 allocation to Millinocket is fair because town officials had given that town’s paper mill an unrealistically high assessment. They said the mill was worth $184 million in the years since its August 2009 closure and did not account for depreciation, according to Bennett.

“The governor believes that this is the crux of the issue,” Bennett said Friday. “That is where we are playing hardball.”

The state’s agreement to assume ownership of the landfill last spring was a key element in the sale of the two Katahdin region paper mills and the restart of the East Millinocket mill in October. Engineered partly by LePage administration officials, the restart returned 216 jobs to the region.

But the Legislature’s agreement to assume ownership of the landfill provided no money or management for continuing landfill operations.

Since then, LePage administration officials and leaders of East Millinocket and Millinocket have wrestled over who would manage the landfill. All sides essentially have claimed that they couldn’t spare the money, about $250,000 annually, to operate the landfill, which takes refuse from the East Millinocket mill.

Clint Linscott, chairman of East Millinocket’s Board of Selectmen, declined to comment Thursday on whether his town’s leaders believed they were making a multiyear agreement to manage Dolby. Unlike Millinocket’s leaders, East Millinocket officials never have disclosed their terms for helping the state manage the landfill.

Bennett said Wednesday that the state would contribute $150,000 per year. Millinocket would pay $50,000 a year and East Millinocket would contribute $50,000 worth of funding and in-kind maintenance services annually, Bennett said.

According to Bennett and Conlogue, there is no written contract or summary of terms regarding landfill funding or operations. Instead, essential points were discussed in meetings and letters. By Conlogue’s count, Millinocket and state officials met four times.

Conlogue conceded that the lack of a contract might appear strange, but he said creating one was the state’s responsibility, not the towns’.

“It is such a unique situation, I don’t have anything to compare it to,” Conlogue said Friday. “Typically you would have some kind of written agreement of the terms or conditions of what you would need to do, and we have never even discussed such a thing, never mind actually seen such a document.”

If the controversy is a miscommunication and not negotiating tactics between Millinocket leaders and LePage, the misunderstanding apparently occurred during what Bennett called two hectic time periods.

The first was May 2011, a month after LePage persuaded former mill owner Brookfield Asset Management to extend the decommissioning date of the two mills by 90 days. The second was September 2011, when town and state officials were scrambling to close a sale deal with the mills’ new owners.

Bennett said that May was when state and town officials met and formed what state officials thought was a partnership over the Dolby landfill. The first meeting occurred on May 3. Others followed. She announced the first meeting in a press release several days before, she said.

“These were closed-door meetings where dealings or dialogue about Dolby occurred. It was clearly communicated that all parties need to be onboard in solving this stuff,” Bennett said. “They agreed to work with the state.”

Conlogue said he thought LePage misinterpreted events to believe that the working relationship Millinocket leaders had with the state was a partnership, and that the partnership continued into the Dolby talks.

He placed the first real town-state discussion regarding Dolby in September and said that a Sept. 20 letter was the only time the word “partnership” was used in the correspondence — by state officials.

“I interpreted that as trying to work cooperatively, as [toward] some kind of a common goal, though maybe they felt differently,” Conlogue said.

LePage discussed an open-ended Dolby management agreement, with Millinocket paying $50,000 annually, at a meeting in Augusta on Feb. 1, Conlogue said. LePage was the first to mention the towns making more than a one-time payment, Conlogue said.

“He discussed an open-ended commitment from the towns and he thought we had some kind of a partnership to do that,” Conlogue said. “I said that we didn’t, basically, but he was of the opinion that we had this.”

“It was like, wow. That’s not where we are,” Conlogue added.

Town and state leaders might seem to be in a standoff over the landfill, but they have several options. State officials are seeking proposals from private firms to run the landfill as a commercial operation and a bill that would have the state fund landfill operations entirely is under review.

Millinocket’s council will discuss on March 22 whether to rescind its Dec. 20 resolve to make a one-time $50,000 payment for landfill operations, Conlogue said.

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  1. Well, let us see if the A.G.’s office thinks the Governor should follow the law or is above the law? Whether Milllinocket did or did not break the agreement does not have anything to do with this law.

      1. If in fact the Gov. did hint at stopping the gas line, then something needs to be done.

  2. wonder how many more lawsuits and challenges LiePage will have against him before we all agree he is out of his depth in this job and never should have been elected.   If his defenders think he will show them loyalty, think again.  Millinocket is a good example of that.

      1. Lepage recieved the most votes in the election, therefore he is the govenor.  He is doing EXACTLY what we elected him to do.  Get Maine facing in the right direction!! 

    1. Defenders? As a whole Millinocket didnt even vote for him! They only liked him when he saved the mills from becoming scrap iron. Lets hope they dont close again while he is in office. I can hear the metal shears now.

      1. Would you expect them too? Millinocket is by far Democrat territory. Seemed to me there were a lot in Medway voted for him?

        1. I believe he won in Medway. Medway is generally more consevative. We never had the mills to pick up the tab.

      2. Medway you don’t even have a horse in this race all you do is ride on the coat tails of everyone else, the only position your town leaders took was to get in bed with Quimby and you failed miserably.

        1. If Medway4me worried as much about their school as they do about what is going on in Millinocket maybe they wouldn’t have the attendance issues, the bullying issues, the DHHS investigation issues, the DOE investigation issues and lawsuits on the horizon they have down there.

          Just sayin’

    2.  Millinocket is a good example of lawsuits. The school board is suing the town council over money they do not have. They want everyone to feel bad that they don’t have this money, that is in the school budget, to pay for their schools this year. The fact is they are just going to end up paying that out to their lawyer anyway. It isn’t going to help improve their offerings/ curriculum up there. It is only going to line a lawyer’s pocket.

        1. I’m sorry they are threatening to sue the town and have consulted an attorney according to one of the meetings on KAT.

           http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2012/01/17/news/penobscot/attorney-millinockets-school-board-threatened-to-sue-town/

          1. So how exactly would you handle a situation when you feel someone owes you money?  I bet the words “I’ll sue you” will come flying out of your mouth as well.  

  3. This is the latest brouhaha in a serious of brouhahas, the likes of which I have never seen before in any governor’s tenure, let alone during the first year of office.  It’s an astoundingly ugly display of incompetence and negativity.

    1. Really,,, and Baldi never had his moments…?
      Sorry, Baldai is “still” the worst governor in Maine’s history

      1. Two wrongs do not make things right.  This is not about comparing this governor to any other.  It is only about him and that’s all. 

        It’s hard to see where the town is wrong.  It’s time for LePage to put up, shut up or admit he lied.  This is going to be a big deal.  No question.  His documentation does not exist.  If it did, we would have seen it by now.

        Stay tuned.  This will get nasty.

          1. With all respect, no.  The only path is for LePage to produce a signed agreement, contract or MOU by the state and the town. 

            Without a real agreement, LePage is in trouble and we can see him for what he is.

          2. At the end of the day, and all political “opinions” aside, this is a situation that will only be resolved if the two leaders agree to meet in private and work towards a productive path forward. I have much faith in both Paul & Gene and I am willing to bet that they can work out a solution that will benefit both the state and the two towns.
            But it all starts with a phone call…..

          3. This is not a matter of “opinions”.  This is  a matter of facts. 

            LePage stated the town broke a deal the town says does not exist.  The “facts” are easy to resolve.  LePage needs to presents a formal agreement.  The town’s “facts” state no such agreement exists.
            We are all entitled to our opinions, but we are not entitled to our own facts. 

            I suspect and respect that are you a LePage supporter and I don’t mean to pick a fight, but you’re appeal for “talking” suggests that LePage wants to find a solution, but that is not the issue. 

            The issue is that no agreement exists and thus the town did not break any agreement.  There is only one way out of this mess.  LePage needs to present a formal, signed agreement.  Nothing more to it.

          4. Your right, but both leaders need to lower the volume, meet and work on a solution that benefits both the state and the Katahdin area. I know Paul & Gene, they are both valued servants of the people, and I believe that they can achieve a viable solution. It starts with a phone call….

      2. I don’t understand:    the impulse of reflection on a prior administration, (one that I never supported),   and the comparasion with the Le Pager administration.       You cannot blame anymore,  this is his deal,   he has not been truthful, nor has he legislated honestly………That’s what LePage’s legacy is going to be…….get over it,     He is not acting  honorably,  he has never represented anyone other than himself.

    2. You can’t expect the AG to do anything but rule in LePage’s favor; he’s just another lackey.

      1. Unless he has papers other than the ones I looked on, he is and was wrong. According to the Law, the Governor can not hold the money back.

          1. He did say they shook hands on it, though I can tell you it seems you can not always believe what the Town of Millinocket says either. Doesn’t matter a handshake or in writing. Let them all take a lie detector test, though I am not sure that would work.

    3. I wonder how many Maine Governors have ever had three lawsuits against them in the first 10 months of their tenure? I’m thinking that’s gotta be a total of just one, Paul LePage. At the rate this man’s going he’ll be serving 10-20 years in Federal Prison before he even reaches the end of his term. The only thing that will save him will be other dishonest folks in power who also ignore the law. Paul’s hoping for lots of crooks, we’re all hoping to vote them all out of office next November. It’s no wonder Paul is always putting us Mainers down. He know’s what we have in store for him. Get them voting pens ready!

      1. Let’s dare to hope:  Maybe during the next voting season, the people of Maine will sweep house; and then the new Congress can do something special:  Change the law so that impeachment procedures can begin against LePage.

        1. Be very careful what you wish for because the Gay Marriage law being on the ballot will bring out alot of conservative and Indpendent voters who  will vote against the referendum , but also will vote against Democrats.  Because we all don’t like the economic policies  , social policies, and nanny state  that come from the Dems.  With the recent elections for Legislature, Governor and Referendums all going against the Dems and their interest .  I would not be surprised if it is more of the same going against the Dems agenda.

          1. be very careful about saying that……….are you sure how people vote? I wish I knew how people vote?…….maybe the caucus results would be different, perhaps, if I were as smart as you, Al Gore or even John Kerry would have won the presidency…….or hell, may be charlie webster would not be the leader of a deeply divided republican party!

        1. Or of course “Your Side” could simply learn how to discuss matters in a socially appropriate way or conduct yourselves in a legally appropriate manner. I do believe if you loose enough in the eyes of the public (Voters) and the eyes of the law you will eventually learn your lesson. Mr. LePage clearly is a dysfunctional (That’s putting it politely) human being. However through his mismanagement and hatefulness towards just about everybody he’s doing more than anyone could have dreamt possible to elect Democrats next November. For that I say, thanks Paulie!

    4. If the Governor is correct in what the agreement was, he is doing his job of representing the state as a whole.  If not, the agreement documents should sort it out.

      Any Governor who is representing his state should be standing his ground when necessary.  We’ve had too many years of sweet marshmallows in office.

      1. Not according the the paperwork I saw. The Governor  is breaking the law, clear and simple. He has no ground to stand on, if he plans on upholding the laws of Maine

  4. Oh this should be good. I bet The Maine Attorney General is pleased as punch to have this one dropped in his lap. I wonder how he will weasel word his decision on this one. At least he has the experience from the Poliquin matter. Something tells me that this case will end up before a court. But hey look on the positive side…there will be all kinds of new jobs created for lawyers in The Maine Attorney General’s office just defending LePage.

    1. This A. G. is up for taking over the world,but not so much for behaving like a competent  State A. G.   He will do what penguin tells him or kick a decision away to the courts.

  5. Section 12. Shall enforce the laws. The Governor shall take care that the
    laws be faithfully executed.

    Hope Paulie’s pal remembers that nowhere in the State Constitution does it mention the “Governor shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, except by the Governor, himself.”

  6.  It’s becoming more obvious all the time that LaPudge doesn’t have much under control, he doesn’t have his mouth under control, he doesn’t have his appointees under control, he doesn’t have DHHS under control, he doesn’t have the legislative process under control.  He’s been governing by chance in accordance with his tea bag philosophy, and as has been the case in Washington, other states and Maine, the philosophy is weak at best.  

    1. So you don’t like Governor LePage. You have your reasons. I get it. But the moment you resort to criticizing his weight, your argument loses all credibility.

      1.  Hopefully you aren’t one of those hypocrites who call our former governor “baldly” while whining about anyone referring to physical attributes of the current guv.

      2. I think LePage is a Chris Chrisie wannabe and I don’t mean weight-wise. He sure has shown his bulliness just like Christie.

        1. What he should be a coward like Democrats and let the status quo continue it is unacceptable.  Chris Christie has been good for New Jersey that state just like Maine had similar issues with Welfare growing, massive budget shortfalls.  Towns in New Jersey going broke or near being broke.  Democrats think we all want to continue their policies they just don’t get it. We want to end their policies by moving more to the Center and more to the Right on economic issues.   Going all out with Socialism, a very restrictive Nanny State with all our money going to those too lazy to earn it themselves and our rights and freedoms being taken away treating us like little kids is arrogant and ignorant.  Democrats are out of touch with most Mainers.

          1. I guess spelling shouldn’t be part of the equation as well as actually creating sentences that make sense.

            Intellect should not be confused with cowardice.  Is this what you meant to state?

          2. If Maine socialized hydro power and gave people a cut of the profits, people would smile when they got their power bill.

      3. What??  You thought when Otis B. said “he doesn’t have his mouth under control” that he meant in terms of putting food in it??  That’s a stretch; I’m quite sure he meant ‘his mouth’ in terms of the vile, bullying, and demeaning words that come out of it.  He sure has ‘diarrhea of the mouth’ when it comes to tone, meaning, and crassness.  I want to be clear here; that you don’t take that to mean fecal matter or vomit since you seem to take things so literally.

          1. don’t feel bad, I read it 3 times before i caught the Lepudge.  I’ve seen so many people make fun of his name lately i just see the first letter and skip the name ahah. 

          2. I know…me too.  I’m from Millinocket as well…don’t live there now but many people love the area and are trying to make a go of it.  It hurts me when people dump on the place; it holds a very dear place in my heart and I feel very fortunate to have grown up there, wouldn’t trade it for anything.  Most of the people are hard workers and devoted to what they believe in, I don’t think they should be faulted for that.  And, to get back on task, I wouldn’t trust PePe le Pew as far as I could throw him.  Here’s how I judge people;  BY WHAT THEY SAY AND DO…hmmm, what they say and what their actions are…seems pretty simple to me.   If you act like a bully, if you make comments that have repeatedly gone ‘against the grain’ so-to-speak, if you have lied in the past, if you continuously SAY AND DO crass, disrespectful, and bullying things well guess what???  You are as you portray yourself to be.  I can’t understand people not seeing that??

    1. Yes the town of Millinocket is getting what they deserve.  They still think it’s 1970 something, living high on the hog and they have that democratic entitlement mentality.  They need to learn to live within their means and stop looking for handouts.

      1. Please tell us what handouts you are speaking of?  This handout is State law, and Millinocket is not the only/first/or last town to get these funds.  Please do tell us, and then tell us what town you live in so I can dig up the handouts you have gotten in the last 10 years.

    1. Probably because Baldacci, King and Michaud never did anything to help the Katahdin mills…!

    2.  see link for full story
      http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/03/09/scientists-say-america-is-too-dumb-for-democracy-to-thrive/?tsp=1

      Scientists say America is too dumb for democracy to thrive

      The United States may be a republic, but it’s democracy that Americans cherish. After all, that’s why we got into Iraq, right? To take out a dictator and spread democracy.

      “Government of the people, by the people, for the people.” “One person, one vote.” We are an egalitarian society that treasures the mandate of its citizenry.

      But more than a decade’s worth research suggests that the citizenry is too dumb to pick the best leaders.

      They know what’s best for the country.

      Work by Cornell University psychologist David Dunning and then-colleague Justin Kruger found that “incompetent people are inherently unable to judge the competence of other people, or the quality of those people’s ideas,” according to a report by Life’s Little Mysteries on the blog LiveScience.

      “Very smart ideas are going to be hard for people to adopt, because most people don’t have the sophistication to recognize how good an idea is,” Dunning told Life’s Little Mysteries.

      What’s worse is that with incompetence comes the illusion of superiority.

      Let’s say a politician comes up with an ingenious plan that would ensure universal health care while decreasing health care costs.

      According to Dunning-Kruger, no matter how much information is provided, the unsophisticated would 1) be incapable of recognizing the wisdom of such a plan; 2) assume they know better; and 3) have no idea of the extent of their inadequacy.

      In other words, stupid people are too stupid to know how stupid they are.

      1. Interesting, this all seems very consistent with what I’ve been thinking about America ever since we fell in love with Ronald Reagan who up until George Junior was in my mind the first President that I felt was even dumber than me. Then came the dumbest President ever, George Junior who would have done the planet a world of good had he actually chocked to death on that pretzel came along and not only won but got two terms! It was then that I realized something really disturbing was going on in this country. I’m honestly beginning to believe the top 1% types are completely running the world now. For them to maintain that control they not only need to dumb down Americans but also have to wean us off our middle class and upper middle class lifestyles. Hence the constant attacks on Unions and Intellectuals. Once we are all as ignorant as those in third world countries and like them living in poverty (Poor housing, nutrition, education) then they will be able to reinvest back here in America and pay us dollars a day for our labors. I’m not sure what kind of America that will be but there sure seems to be a lot of dumb people racing to make it happen.

        1. { In other words, stupid people are too stupid to know how stupid they are }
           
             That says alot about  those who argue that the Lepage wasn’t elected by the Minority, but rather the others where rejected by the Majority! 

      2. I totally agree, A democracy has to have a high degree of intelligence and lots of common sense to operate correctly! Our government does not work in todays world !

        1.  I agree but must add that since we brought Leonard gates to speak in Maine about voter fraud he was committing for the FBI that is an important factor in the equation.
          We brought Gates to speak in the early 1990’s. The audience was mostly liberal
          in other words stupid people who are to arrogant and stupid to know how stupid they are.
          The progressive audience expressed their appreciation to me by asking me to increase my meds
          and doing nothing about the problem.  see
          http://www.thelandesreport.com/Donsanto.htm

      3. It’s been said, ” Obama is not the biggest threat to out republic.  The biggest threat to our republic is that we have a population that would see fit to elect him.”

    3. Hoplite99, the majority of us didn’t vote for him.  Unfortunately, our state system is set-up so the person who gets the most votes wins, even if the most votes is just barely 39% of the entire electorate that voted.

      Not like there was much chance of anyone taking 50% + one vote in that ten way race–5 names on the ballot and 5 write-ins.

      1.  Lincoln was elected with a minority of votes in 1860.  But as you know by now you can’t win’em  all.  (:

        1. Rutherford B. Hayes stole the election from popular vote winner Samuel Tildin in 1876, so your point is?

    4. Because   The democrats did it they wanted to ensure victories in all house and cabinet positions for years and it looks like its working. This entire country may be under Democratic control come November thanks to LePage, Christie, Walker, Rush and the entire Bush Admin.

  7. So, if it’s found that OutRage has violated the law, will we finally have enough evidence as grounds for the legislature to start impeachment hearings?

    1. It didnt work on baldi, but then again, back then there were more Dem’s in Augusta to prevent that from happening….

          1. ok, so nothing that went to court?
            I didn’t ask if anyone thought he did anything shady, that would’ve been a stupid request.
            Anything where the AG had to step in and officiate?

          2. Your also forgetting Baldy , his wife Karen, The Cashman’s and other cabinet members meeting with Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg when the Fairpoint sale which has failed on every level.  Well All of these folks got huge kickbacks for letting Verizon leave. Nothing was done because of the AG’s  Steve Rowe and Janet Mills who took over for Rowe never did anything to look into what went on.

  8. LePage just twittered me. This is what he sent.LOL
    see link for full twitter

    http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/03/09/scientists-say-america-is-too-dumb-for-democracy-to-thrive/?tsp=1

    Scientists say America is too dumb for democracy to thrive

    The
    United States may be a republic, but it’s democracy that Americans
    cherish. After all, that’s why we got into Iraq, right? To take out a
    dictator and spread democracy.

    “Government of the people, by the people, for the people.” “One
    person, one vote.” We are an egalitarian society that treasures the
    mandate of its citizenry.

    But more than a decade’s worth research suggests that the citizenry is too dumb to pick the best leaders.

    They know what’s best for the country.

    Work by Cornell University psychologist David Dunning and
    then-colleague Justin Kruger found that “incompetent people are
    inherently unable to judge the competence of other people, or the
    quality of those people’s ideas,” according to a report by Life’s Little Mysteries on the blog LiveScience.

    “Very smart ideas are going to be hard for people to adopt, because
    most people don’t have the sophistication to recognize how good an idea
    is,” Dunning told Life’s Little Mysteries.

    What’s worse is that with incompetence comes the illusion of superiority.

    Let’s say a politician comes up with an ingenious plan that would
    ensure universal health care while decreasing health care costs.

    According to Dunning-Kruger, no matter how much information is
    provided, the unsophisticated would 1) be incapable of recognizing the
    wisdom of such a plan; 2) assume they know better; and 3) have no idea
    of the extent of their inadequacy.

    In other words, stupid people are too stupid to know how stupid they are.
     

  9. How many lawsuits does LePage now have going against him at this point?  Do other Governors around the country usually have this level of legal cases in litigation while they’re still in office, so early on in their tenure?

    Someone in a previous article on this same topic pointed out the number of negative comments by the Governor regarding Maine and the people therein.  It is truly staggering how little positive comments come out of the Blaine House.  We might be “open for business”, but you’ll need to bring your own workers with you because apparently all of us in Maine are lazy, fraudulent and inexperienced.

    I don’t care if you’re a Republican, Democrat, Tea-Partier or magical frog at some point you will have to admit LePage just plain isn’t good at this job.  Part of the gig of being Governor of all the people in your state is actually being able to communicate with them on a civil level.  This skill isn’t in this mans wheelhouse.

    Plus I don’t think he likes any of us.

      1.  Off the top of my head: There was a ruling in the last few days that there will have to be a trial for a potential labor law violation in his contract negotiations and  he was sued for the incredibly childish mural fiasco.

        Maybe others know of more open active cases.

        1. All of which are unnecessary, but will cost taxpayers big bucks in legal fees to defend LePages ego.

      2. There are at least three I know of:  Maine State Employees Association filed suit against him, the mural suit filed by “Don Berry, a labor representative for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers; John Newton, an OSHA employee; Maine artists Robert Shetterly, Natasha Mayers and Joan Braun; and attorney Jonathan Beal”, and now Millonocket.

    1. Walker don’t have any lawsuits, the voters are just recalling him and dumping him into the garbage bin where they found him.

      1.  1. Unfortunately, Maine does NOT have a recall option.
        2. We’re past Marden’s 60 day (or however long it is) return policy.  So we can’t return him.

        1.  Mardens called and said they don’t want him back under any circumstances.

          Even they have standards and damaged goods can be only so damaged or they won’t put it on the shelves.

    2. { other Governors around the country usually have this level of legal cases in litigation while they’re still in office, so early on in their tenure?}

      Look up Scot Walker!

      Another Tea Party Governor attacking his State!

    3. Get over it!!  You need to break a few eggs in order to make an omelet!  Lepage wasn’t elected to be civil. He was elected to straighten out the fiscal mess left by 16 years of liberal leadership.   His no nonsense, common sense, get it done attitude is refreshing and welcome to most Mainers and like New Jersey, Maine is looked at in a positive light by the rest of our country for trying to lead the way out of a financial crisis.  We need a leader like LePage in Washington!!!

      Liberals are sore losers and when they lose the battle of popular opinion they sue.  Anybody can be sued for anything in this country.    So many examples of this, wasting time, energy and money instead of accomplishing something productive.   We have too many semi-competent lawyers that have made a livelihood off the public dole for too long. 

      Reference what’s going on in Wisconsin.  Liberals and labor unions don’t like the results of the latest election and the measures taken by the Governor to restore fiscal sanity so backed by special interest money (unions) they petition for a recall election subverting the democratic process. 

      1. Is that why there are so many negative comments going around about our governor, because he’s so popular?  His time has passed.  He’s outta here.

      2. So true he is getting the job done for the good of its people and the State of Maine, but on this issue it looks like he went to far pitting a landfill against school funding is wrong and saying he may pull his support for a gas pipe line is foolish.

      3. What makes you think I’m a liberal? 

        I agree there are a seemingly never ending load of issues that have been danced around for far to long and are in dire need of a reality check.  I think it’s safe to say that the country as a whole can empathize with that on a multiple of levels. 

        Government has a lot of fat it needs to burn off that’s built up over the years primarily through inflexibility, as a result of both parties I might add.  Corporations and those of unimaginable wealth have been disproportionally babied and need to be weaned.

        What I’m talking about is an elected official who just plain isn’t good at what he’s been elected to do.  He might be an awesome boss who delegates efficiency, but as a governmental employee  who needs to negotiate deals through finesse he’s a bull in a china shop.  I think he’s out of his depth.  Unless he can figure out a way to resolve this advisarial tone with his fellow elected employees as well as a majority of this state’s population he will achieve nothing.  Thus far his greatest inadvertent accomplishment has been to unite our legislature like never before, a feet not even accomplished in Washington yet.

        So you can lampoon liberals all the live long day if that feels productive.  I just thought that for the sake of this open forum I should bring the comment back to it’s original intention.  I and the people of Maine have too much self respect to be treated as though we aren’t all aware of the incredibly painful transition our state and nation are going through at this time.  It just so happens to be a global one at that.  We need someone who brings people together and fosters a healthy dialogue which brings about progress.  And right now, I’m not seeing that in our employee.

      4. The last thing we need in Washington is another person blindly devoted to personal ideology over the people that they are elected to represent.  LePage lucked into office because of a 3way split and since then has been on a personal crusade to make life better for him and a token few and to crush to spirit of most Mainers.  Civility and honesty would get him much further than bully tactics and venom.

  10. Just think of the things LePage is doing that won’t come out until he’s out of office (which I hope is soon).

  11. Why fool around. Let’s ask the U.S. Supreme Court for a ruling – and if they don’t rule in favor of the Millinocket Bozos, then delare an all out war with fire works – since they are now legal.

    1. The U.S. Supreme Court only rules on matters of law.  And even then, the Court decides which cases it will hear and those that it remands to the lower courts.  Good luck with that approach.

  12. A  Maine politician asks Paul Lepage “What’s that contract you say we signed.?”, and Lepage answers “Oh, that’s a Lepage  contract”.
    The politician asks “What’s a Lepage contract?”.
    “Well”, Lepage says, “It’s an legal devise for tricking  Mainers out of their money “.
    The politician says “But Mainers don’t have any money”, and Lepage
    answers “Well, then that’s no Lepage contract!”.
    So you see, a contract with Lepage is nothing at all.

  13. Let’s see what the state documentation says before we conclude anything. Otherwise all of this is just speculation.

    1. Well, actually a real governor would have done this legal clarification thing first. 
      What that says about LePage is a fact not speculation 

    2.  Actually this particular case involves whether Lepage has the legal right to withhold funds from an entirely  different program because he thinks the state is owed something on an unrelated contract.

      I suspect he just does not have the authority to do that any more than he had the authority to cut off school funding if the legislature didn’t pass his DHHS budget changes as submitted (which is what he threatened).

      Lepage seems to be continuously surprised that he is not a dictator and must abide by the law.

        1.  The reference is there, but it’s kind of obscure if you don’t know Maine law.

          “I am requesting an official legal opinion from your office as to
          whether the Governor has the legal authority to intervene in the
          distribution of SIS funds if all of the other conditions specified in 36
          MRSA 208-A are met,” Clark wrote in a letter to Schneider dated
          Thursday.

          The statute referenced has nothing to do with the land fill purchase/contract it has to do with revenue sharing only.

          1. Well that would obviously be a biased reference, but I’m saying if there is any confirmation from millinocket in paperwork that the governors office has that everything is linked together than that changes everything. In other words a full response from the governor has not been made here so I think it’s a little premature for everyone to get excited, this coming from someone who is on the outside looking in.

  14. This is a very involved situation; both parties think that they are in the right, and the only losers are the area residents. While they and the Maine State Representatives  involved have done much work to resolve this problem, it is important to remember that failure happens when those involved stop working together.

  15. I think that what most astonishes me about LePage- even more than his bullying, his interference in governance (barging into committee meetings, for instance), and his evident dislike of his own state- is his capacity to anger Mainers across the spectrum. The 61% of us who saw through him from the beginning have now been joined by the members of the Millinocket Town Council, hardly a nest of raging, hyper-educated, Volvo-driving liberals from southern Maine.  The AG’s opinion will be interesting here, as Maine has no conventional recall mechanism per se but can, if memory serves, impeach a sitting governor for violations of statute law. I think it’s entirely reasonable to imagine a majority Democrat legislature after November; that being the case, I wonder what the likelihood is of Mainers being treated to a very interesting bit of political theater early next year?

    1.  Article 9 Section 5 of the Maine Constitution states that: Every person holding any civil office under this State, may be removed by impeachment, for misdemeanor in office.

    2. Partisan politics at it finest.  No wonder we never get anything productive accomplished.  :(

  16. Ok, says LaPudge, we’ll get the AG, my appointment, to sugar coat this situation over for me, then fix the Poliquin situation, and be on the ready for the mess I’ve made of DHHS, and then every thing will be back to normal.  Then I can blame the Democrats in the Legislature for all my problems.

    1.  He will be a total lame duck after the November election when the legislature flips from the rubber stamp Republicans now in charge to a Democratic majority.

      Think he’s been whiny and petulant so far? Wait until he can’t get a single thing approved by the legislature and is rendered politically impotent.

        1. They won’t rubber stamp LePage’s agenda and that is all that will matter to voters come November.

  17. It will be very interesting test to see if Schneider can be bipartisan with his ruling. Now is his big chance to step out from under the thumb of the Governor and prove he can do his job as the Attorney General for the State of Maine.

    1.  I have hopes that he will.

      He did it with his ruling that Brown could not legally serve as DEP Commissioner.

  18. Please, people of Maine, let’s figure out how to get this clown out of office!    We can’t afford to wait until the next election; if tomorrow were election day, it would STILL be too far away.  

    1.  November – take his rubber stamp Republican majority in the legislature away from him.

      Governor King once famously said that the only power the governor has in Maine ,that does not require legislative approval, is to set the herring catch limit.

  19. East Millinocket is getting the full amount of  SIS funds from the State right? That makes me think that East Millinocket knew what the arrangment with the state was going be, agreed to it and have been making the required 50000 dollar per year payments or have committed to doing so.

    Millinocket is not getting the full amount of SIS funds offered to them. Why is that? The Governor says its because they are not living up to an agreement that was made. Millinockett says they never made that agreement.  But once again it appears the East Millinocket did make that agreement and thus no problems with the state and the SIS payments.

    So my question is this. How can East Millinocket be able to enter into an agreement with the State and have everything run smoothly while Millinocket can enter into the agreement and then claim not understand what they were agreeing to? And if Millinocket never entered into the agreement then what makes them think they are entitled to funds that would be paid out in terms of said agreement?

      1. Just the opposite, Medway and East do not want to. Well at  least Stanley does not want too.

    1.  Please read post by msfreeh @1:07 pm because it applies to your post. SIS funds are in no way tied to any land fill issue, it is a law that was enacted to help any community in the state with a sudden loss of  a major tax payer and or employer. This could be a factory or a military base where large numbers of people lose their jobs.  Stating anything different just shows your ignorance. 

      1. Do you suppose you could have said that I was misinformed or mistaken instead of ignorant? Im guessing that you are somebody who only has the ability to call others ignorant when you dont have to do it face to face. Did you feel better about yourself posting that I was ignorant?
        Is it your position then that the Governor is holding SIS funds hostage unless Millinocket agrees to contribute to the yearly costs of the landfill? See? Its quite easy to engage in online conversation with another person without insulting the other person. You should try it sometime soon.

        1.  Again not true I would say it to your face if you had made that same statement to me after hearing others bash our community. You are on an online forum making assumptions that obvious you have very little knowledge of and that is why I used the word ignorance. “Lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified” and that would be the topic SIS funds and or agreement with Governor.  I am sorry if I hurt your feelings by my choice of words.

      2. Don’t disagree with you but if you are indeed correct you might want to contact the Board of Selectmen of East Millinocket.  This was a quote from the Lincoln News released yesterday in regards to plowing of the landfill.  Board chairmen Linscott  “When the state received a report that the road wasn’t plowed the town got in trouble.  That was my agreement.”  Linscott added that the landfill maintenance is tied to the town’s sudden and severe money and Violette’s action’s (not plowing the road) could have jeopardized that money.  Seems that the the Board is scared by Mr. LePage.

    2. East Millinocket, offered or has paid this years $50,000. They did not commit to any more money than that. Unless there is paper work that says the opposite? Millinocket offered to pay $50,000 this year only. Their is no agreement from East to pay anymore.

      1.  East Millinoket hasn’t paid any money for the dump. They said since the dump is in their town they have provided security and they plowed the road. According to them that equals $50,000. 

      1. So you will take the time to tell me I am screwed up but not take the time to tell me what I have confused? I guess that makes sense some how in your mind. Why bother waste your time even responding to my post?

    3.  East Millinoket hasn’t paid any money for the dump. They said since the dump is in their town they have provided security and they plowed the road. According to them that equals $50,000. 

  20. LePage is certainly tying up the court system with his behavior and lies.  He wouldn’t recoginze the truth if it smacked him in his fat face.

  21. If Millinockett did not do as they agreed then they should receive some kind of penalty.  You would think the agreement would clearly outline what could happen if the agreement was broken. 

    1. Nothing in the agreement have they failed to do, at least from what I have read in the correspondence.

  22. You have to wonder if Lepage can do anything without turning it into a tough guy dog and pony show?  I don’t have to the details to comment on whether he’s right or wrong, but he runs his office about as unprofessionally as a Marden’s salvage store.  Oh wait…is there a connection here?

  23. Everything is a production with this administration: meddling, blaming, threatening, prosecuting … The only jobs he is creating are in the legal field.

  24. You know those devices habitual offenders sometimes have to have to start their cars? The ones where they blow into the breathalyzer or they can’t use equipment that could be dangerous if operated by a drunk?

    LePage needs one of those on all of his microphones.

  25. My opinion is that Lepage is a loud mouthed blowhard who thinks he is a tough guy!  He blows like a big wind and doesn’t care about the people in Maine unless they are rich.  He is a typical  politician who only cares about the wealthy and lining his own pockets!

  26. I was under the impression that the Big Guy could damn well do anything he pleases!!!That’s certainly the way it appears.–Don’t think I’ve ever heard a Governor make so many threats as to what he will do if he dosen’t get his way!—–Rather childish, don’t you think?

  27. I knew from the get go that LePage was a fraud and anti working class Mainers! He is a boot licker of the 1% and the only thing he cares about is the $$$ he’s stealing from taxpayers and putting in his pals pockets..as well as in his own private accounts. This will all come out if the AG actually does his job.

  28. The Governor is not going anywhere, he is doing what his predecessors didn’t have the back bone to accomplish. Criticism is being purveyed by those who haven’t a clue.
    Keep up the good work Gov. LePage!
    There is just a few of us working people out here that can now and then take the time to show you our appreciation.   

    1. Fact of the matter is Eugene has alot of “agreements” that have never been written down.  I smell a rat.

  29. We have alot of problems within the State and The Town of Millinocket also has there share, in every goverment as to local or the State there is always some differences, some are simple others need to be worked out by the intented parties, But my concern is the attitude of the officals of Millinocket, going on TV and saying the Governor lied and the attitude they showed was totally unproffessional.

  30. It is absolutely amazing that contracts with the towns and state were not drawn up so as to avoid such needless bickering and name calling. One min Lepage is a hero the next min Millinocket is calling him a vile bully. This is so disgusting

  31. Conlogue conceded that the lack of a contract might appear strange, but he said creating one was the state’s responsibility, not the towns’.
    Not sure who is right or wrong with this issue.  The above statement is scary.  What is the number one job of the council and town manager?  Protect the town.  I hope Millinocket is in the right but with statements like the one above doesn’t invoke much confidence.

    1.  When the original bill was drafted on the landfill and sent to Augusta. The mistake was made of not having  state  take  full charge of the landfill including running it.

  32. Greedy Bunch up there in Millinocket…  Our Great Governor Paul LePage rushed into Mill Town to make a deal to keep jobs there… The people of mill town were cried and wimpering like babies to be saved. and as usual the union mentality took over and lied about what they would do…

    Lesson Learned Here Folks never trust anyone from Millinocket to do what they say, without having it in writing….

    1. LOL, great logic there. 

      Safe to say the Governor should have enough intelligence to realize a deal of this magnitude should be in writing. 

      But somehow it’s Millinocket’s fault that the Governor is incompetent? 

    2. And I suppose you would expect a handshake deal to be honored by Paulie!! You damn well better  get it in writing.

    3. I don’t believe the Millinocket mill is operating yet, only East Millinocket. Which might explain why East Millinocket doesn’t want to rock the boat and risk the wrath of LePage.

  33. There’s no written contract regarding who pays what to operate the landfill. Am I reading this right? Even I know when it comes to money, you get all the agreed upon terms written in a contract and all involved parties sign it. The present conflict wouldn’t be so hard to unravel if the state and the towns  did that. 

    1. They will get their money, this time!!! The AG will find for the Town.

      It was a rush job to save jobs, and the union mentality town leaders lied.. Just wait until next time they want help up there… and good luck getting your roads fixed.. hahaha!!!!
      Our Great Governor Paul LePage SAVED UNION JOB’S  and the unions mentality stick it to the State..
      I will lobby to make sure that town doesn’t get another State Dollar unless required by law.. and also lobby to sell the landfill rights without that mill town to get a penny of the proceeds… You Sow what you Seed.  (-:

    2. Even 
       East Millinoket hasn’t paid any money for the dump. They said since the dump is in their town they have provided security and they plowed the road. According to them that equals $50,000. 
       They said they only did this as a courtesy since the rest of Maine is paying $17 million.

       Sounded to me like East Mil. doesn’t have anything in writing either.
      http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article/192459/3/East-Millinocket-leaders-affirm-support-for-Dolby-Landfill 

  34. Not sure why the State needs to pay for a Towns landfill unless the State was dumping stuff in it. Its getting to a point where entitlements will be slashed – because it all must go to the bankers – and its not Lepage’s fault, he didnt rack up the States unsustainable debt. I still like Lepage  over Baldacchi, who bailed out the mall when the mall was being bidded on by the owner’s competititor… Least Lepage is attempting to not throw money away.

  35. LePage is the governor. He can do what ever he da%$ well pleases. He can cut off the money because the treasurer, if not busy with his businesses that day will back him up, the A.G. is a hack, a toady, a wimp, and frightened.
    Now, have we got it clear? LePage is in control. Don’t question his decisions as that only interferes with his schedule.
    Leaaaaavveeee  Paulieeeeeeee Alone!!!!!!!

  36. I don’t know what East has for an agreement but what ever it is it still is not tied to SIS funds. That is our Governor doing that all on his own, he thinks he is above the law.

  37. Bottom line if Millinocket was living within its means they would not need the SIS funds to maintain their “wonderful” school system!

  38. Who wants to send their children to the end of the road that depends on SIS funds to maintain their “wonderful” school system!

  39.  LePage seems to make up his own language — it is a language that only he understands.  It means something different from moment to moment. 

  40. Since when do adults in positions of leadership not know enough to establish a written contract?  Only when they are throwing around other peoples money I suppose.

  41. At the end of the day, and all political “opinions” aside, this is a situation that will only be resolved if the two leaders agree to meet in private and work towards a productive path forward. I have much faith in both Paul & Gene and I am willing to bet that they can work out a solution that will benefit both the state and the two towns.

    But it all starts with a phone call…..

    1. To a degree, I agree. Problem is, the town council is far too willing to let others chart Millinocket’s course. They continue to empower divisive and destructive responses to perceived threats which does nothing more than keep their town manager and lawyers employed. Yep, after calling the Governor a liar and a bully the town manager can come in once again to save the day. He would not have to save the day if the council did not empower him to act in such a way.
      Until the Millinocket town council sits back and really looks at this repeated pattern from a historical perspective they are never going to figure out the real reason Millinocket is in such decline. Every one of these events takes a little more from Millinocket and everyone of these events just keeps the council thinking they can’t live with out the guy that keeps coming to the rescue.

  42. Question

    I read somewhere that this money is in the budget for the school, the current years budget. Then I remember that the school board is suing the town because they aren’t giving all this sudden and severe money to the school. How about when Millinocket figures out their own mess and legal battles over money they don’t even have then they decide to go after the state? 

  43. I have lived here all my life so far, and besides Mckernan I cannot remember another Maine Governor being such a blatant liar.

  44. I was in Pauls office today and he had sign on his desk that said “the buck passes here”.

  45. To a degree, I agree. Problem is, the town council is far too willing to let others chart Millinocket’s course. They continue to empower divisive and destructive responses to perceived threats which does nothing more than keep their town manager and lawyers employed. Yep, after calling the Governor a liar and a bully the town manager can come in once again to save the day. He would not have to save the day if the council did not empower him to act in such a way. 

    Until the Millinocket town council sits back and really looks at this repeated pattern from a historical perspective they are never going to figure out the real reason Millinocket is in such decline. Every one of these events takes a little more from Millinocket and everyone of these events just keeps the council thinking they can’t live with out the guy that keeps coming to the rescue.

  46. Lepage illegally spent 17 million dollars buying this toxic waste dump from his pals in Canada. Now we find out he didn’t even bother to get anything in writing from the town where the dump is located…… I can’t believe a guy who claims to have a MBA is that dumb.   I suspect this is all one of Lepage’s scams to rip off the tax payers of Maine

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