LAMOINE, Maine — Police continue to investigate the circumstances that resulted in the death of one man and gunshot wounds to three others in Lamoine over the weekend, Lt. Chris Coleman of the Maine State Police said at a Monday afternoon press conference.
Coleman said at 2 p.m. that police have been unable to interview everyone involved in the early Sunday morning shooting.
Torrey Garland, 34, of Ellsworth, remains in critical condition at Eastern Maine Medical Center in Bangor, he said.
“We have not had an opportunity to speak to him,” Coleman said. “We remain optimistic that at some point we will be able to talk to him and get his version of events.”
Also shot during the incident, which happened around 4:30 a.m. Sunday outside a house on Route 184, were Lawrence “Randy” Sinclair, 32, of Ellsworth; Joshua McKinney, 25, of Ellsworth; and Michael Carter, 30, of Lamoine. Sinclair died Sunday afternoon as a result of a gunshot wound to the head, the state Medical Examiner’s Office indicated on Monday.
Carter and Tacy Mullins, 22, live in the house outside of which the shooting occurred. The home is owned by Mullins’ mother, Juanita Mullins. Tacy Mullins and Sinclair’s brother, Jacob Sinclair, 24, of Ellsworth, were at the property at the time of the incident but were not hurt, according to police.
No charges have been filed yet in connection with the incident, according to Coleman.
The police lieutenant said that after Garland was shot, he drove away from the scene in a borrowed pickup truck but then crashed the vehicle approximately a half-mile north on the highway from the home. He said police do not know whether Garland may have received any additional injuries in the vehicle accident. Coleman said Garland had borrowed the truck prior to the shooting from a friend, whom he did not identify.
The injuries suffered by Carter and McKinney are not considered life-threatening, according to police. Coleman said both McKinney and Carter remained hospitalized as of Monday afternoon.
Coleman said police have recovered one firearm from the scene but did not say whether more than one firearm may have been involved. He declined to identify what kind of gun it was that police have recovered or who it belonged to.
Without being more specific, Coleman said the four men who drove to the home — Garland, McKinney and the two Sinclairs — rode in two separate vehicles. He said police are checking the criminal backgrounds of the people involved and are looking into whether any may have been under the influence of alcohol or drugs or whether drugs may otherwise have been involved.
Coleman said police are still trying to sort out who did what during the incident but that everyone involved appears to be accounted for. He said police do not believe the incident poses any ongoing safety concerns to the general public.
“We have not drawn any conclusions in and around the shooting,” Coleman said. “Our goal is to get to the bottom of who shot who.”
Coleman said police are aware that Jacob Sinclair has written about what happened during the shooting on his Facebook page.
“We are taking a look at those [postings] and some others,” Coleman said, without commenting in detail about what Sinclair wrote. “That’s something that is routinely done in these types of cases.”
According to the Maine State Bureau of Identification, Carter, Garland, and both Sinclairs have prior criminal convictions but Tacy Mullins and McKinney do not. Garland was convicted in 2009 in Ellsworth of unlawful possession of scheduled drugs and has three subsequent convictions for violating conditions of release. Jacob Sinclair was convicted in 2008 in Ellsworth of disorderly conduct, according to the state agency’s records.
Carter has convictions for hindering apprehension or prosecution, obstructing government administration, refusing to submit to arrest or detention, operating a motor vehicle under the influence of intoxicants, disorderly conduct, unlawful trafficking in scheduled drugs, theft, negotiating a worthless instrument, and violating conditions of release, state records indicate.
Randy Sinclair has a 2002 conviction on an assault charge in Ellsworth, state records indicate, and according to federal court documents he was sentenced in 2002 to serve a year and a day in prison after breaking into the Ellsworth Post Office in 2001.
On Monday morning, state police investigators were at the scene of the shooting at 749 Douglas Highway, the local name for Route 184, searching for evidence. A state police Major Crimes Unit utility truck and a cruiser were parked in the driveway, behind yellow crime scene tape strung along the front of the road. Two dogs, at least one of which is a state police dog trained to sniff out evidence, were trotting around in the dooryard of the home. Detectives were using a metal detector outside the house as they looked for items on the ground.
A neighbor whose home is about 100 yards from the shooting scene said Sunday that he was awakened by the sound of gunshots.
“I heard three gunshots,” said the man, who asked not to be identified. “But that’s not unusual. The person who lives across the street repairs guns, so we hear shots a lot.”
According to Holden police, a man with the same name, age and hometown as Lawrence Sinclair was involved but unharmed in a separate accident Saturday afternoon on Route 1A between Ellsworth and Bangor.
Holden police said Saturday that Lawrence Sinclair got distracted and lost control of his 2002 Ford Explorer, causing the vehicle to strike a utility pole where Route 1A intersects with Bagaduce Road. The pole fell across Bagaduce Road, causing traffic to slow down in both directions and forcing vehicles to be rerouted. The vehicle was demolished.
The Associated Press and Bangor Daily News writer Tom Walsh and photographer Gabor Degre contributed to this report.



“Dooryard” must be a real word if the newspaper is printing it.
No good reason why it ain’t!
it is …its the yard outside your door
“Dooryard” is an old expression that you hear often in Maine. People make Dooryard calls, meaning you pull into the driveway in your car to visit with the people that live in the house, but you stay in your car, and the residents come out to talk to you. I don’t know if it’s a real word or just a “saying” in Maine.
I know, I’m a big fan of all things Maine and all the crazy things us Mainers come up with- but I’ll definitely be emailing the link to this story to some of my out of state friends who make fun of me for saying dooryard!
how about sideboard…does anyone know what that is? It is now called the counter top
My grandmother used to call it the drainboard.
My g-grandmother mother referred to sideboard as the unfinished wood surface (similiar to a cutting board) she made bread and pies on, which was built into the side of the wall and the flour was kept in big barrels under it.
My mother always referred to the sideboard as next to the sink where you set dishes you just washed, to drain before you wiped them, that was tipped towards the sink.
Lastly if anyone who doesn’t like how we talk “You can go ride a cow backwards!”
I found a really great book about Maine sayings and what they mean written by Trudy Scee.
called Dictionary of Maine Words and Phrases at a small bookstore in “downtown” Bangor.
How about a Bunghole ???
A bunghole is the hole in a barrell or pail that you screw the bung into and bungs are available at your local hardware store.
An alternate meaning would include our current governor.
A bung did not screw in, it was a tapered plug. Doubtful if your local hardware store still carrys them.
Why would any good Mainer have out of state friends!?!?
because “there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamed of in your philosophy, Ed (sic).” Wm. Shakespeare
Some have to make a living other thann living off a beggar state, just sayin….
Its between the house and the barn.
…. and puckerbrush is a Maine (and NH) term as well. It’s not in the dictionary, unless you can find one that has a lot of slang terms in it.
It has been years since I’ve hear or used the word puckerbrush or dooryard, brings back good memories.
Hmm never heard of dooryard calls.
yup….and back in the day if the people you went to see werent home you left a empty beer can on the door knob
“Dooryard” is a very old term. Back when farmhouses with attached barns were usually built in an L-shape and invariably faced southwest, almost evey door to the structures faced out onto the sunny side of the L.
That’s the dooryard.
So is “Bagaduce” name of the road.
It is a word and is in the dictionary….a yard upon which a door opens.
A Maine term for front yard or driveway.The exterior area of a home surrounding the most commonly used entryway, typically the driveway area; A logical extension of “barnyard,” “back yard” and “front yard,” it is likely that this compound word grew out of a necessity to distinguishworking areas from living areas. In a practice common to the region, homes were attached to barns and other out-buildings; dooryard identifies the exterior area of a home not given over to farming. A household word in the County, dooryard is seldom heard elsewhere.
Different places have different words for the same thing like:
Hose Pipe used in TN, which is A garden hose here.
House Shoes= slippers
Yes, the dooryard is the yard in front of the door as opposed to the backdooryard which is the yard behind the back door.
An 1865 poem by Walt Whitman — “When Lilacs Last in the Door-yard Bloom’d”:
http://www.bartleby.com/142/192.html
http://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_67.html
They have “dooryards” in Dixie as well.
I am so surprised this well used word is questioned. ^^
does anyone know what channel the press conference is going to be on and if its going to be televised?
Hatfield’s vs McCoy’s, down east version
Except to make it a true reflection of the current downeast situation – the Hatfields are selling Oxy’s, the McCoy’s are hooked on them and the agreement that they had has broken down.
http://www.fenceviewer.com has stated that the truck that was crashed about half a mile away is the vehicle Torrey Garland got into to try and get away after he’d been shot. Due to his injuries, he ended up crashing it.
Randy was also in an accident the day before in Holden which broke a pole in half………
Yep, I did know that. This article was saying that it was unclear if the truck accident half a mile down the road was related to the shooting. I was just providing a place to find a little more info.
Thank you for sharing your info, for those who didn’t know.
You are welcome. Thank you for all of yours!
Anytime!
That was a totally different Randy; not Randy Jr.
The article is pretty clear that is was Randy Jr.
The shooting victim would be the third in the family with that family name.
It was totally the same Randy, are you paying attention at all to the news?
Nope…it was the same one.
And what was the cause?
Article says he was distracted. I think they included that info in this article too. If not, it’s in another article specifically about traffic being held up due to the accident.
Thats just a rumor at this point. You should stop spreading rumors. They make the family upset.
Exactly what rumors am I spreading? I am sharing information that you can find printed in various news sources.
And here we are, 10 hours later, finding out that they are 2 different Randys. Wanna wait for the full story now and stop the ‘speculation’ and ‘rumors’ that you so dislike?
Yes, technically, there are 2 different Randys. Father and son. Son was in the accident on Saturday and then shot to death on Sunday….
Thanx
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, there ain’t enough guns out there. We need everyone to own a gun. Guns don’t be killing, people be killing. Ya heyahh?
WE KNOW, YOU DON’T LIKE GUNS. THEY ARE LEAGAL FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. NOW GO AWAY.
Guns don’t kill people, God kills people.
Which God? There are over 8000 of them.
And Kevin’s just talking about the fire fighters!
There is a lot of speculation as to what it was about, but I don’t believe it’s been revealed what the reason was yet. The police may not even know yet, depending on how injured some of the people they want to talk to are.
The video has a few details that aren’t in the written story yet. Two people were home when four men arrived in two vehicles at about 4:30 AM. One of the wounded men left in a truck and crashed it about half a mile down the road. It sounds like it all went down fast.
“McCausland said police believe “all the players are accounted for”’ seems to be a favorite saying for this man, seeing how I have seen it printed 4 times, within 2 weeks.
completely inappropriate to say. Keep your opinions to yourself. This person is someones son, brother, friend and those people loved him dearly I’m sure. Please be respectful.
No matter what the past has presented for this young man be it things that he has done or things that his family may have been involved in, no one is perfect, not everyone makes good choices all of the time… but death is not ever a good thing.
I understand the deceased had made some poor choices in the past
but was trying to get his life turned around before the tragic shooting.
I hope the family and friends can find some closure to this event.
You didn’t really say that he……
“was trying to get his life turned around”,
did you?
Yes I did.
Thats what I heard.
Looks like he was failing. Miserably.
Sounds like he made one last poor choice.
and what does the accident that Lawrence Sinclair had have to do with the shooting of Randy Sinclair?
Randy’s real name was Lawrence.
Randys real name was Lawrence…they are one and the same person.
Well written story considering all the parties involved; pieced together nicely with what information is currently available. I’ll follow this story closely. A shame such a tragic incident happened here Downeast.
No snow downeast, huh?
Too many drinks at hillfire
Word on my streets(seeing this happened in my backyard) is Carter invited Torrey there to settle a dispute once and for all. Once they all arrived Carter came out with gun ablazing!! Guess there is more then one word out there huh?
Well minus the part where they showed up unannounced and attacked Carter. I can tell you don’t know what you’re talking about, because you named the wrong person as the shooter.
Word on some other streets is they were beating Carter with a baseball bat.
if they were showing up unannounced how exactly did they all end up outside and shooting a gun? If someone showed up at my home unannounced, when… if I answered the door I don’t think I would go outside and fight with them. This just does not add up.
they did not attack Carter and I can tell you you don’t know what you’re talking about….the shooter was Carter and it will come out soon
Pre-game is one way to put it. They selected the bat and batter they would use.
BATH SALTS?
you should be banned from posting. This is COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE!
Death is never the right solution. This is a display of cowardly actions. Shooting someone to resolve disputes? Beating someone to resolve disputes? I don’t know what caused all of this to start but lets be realistic… does it matter what started it? no. what matters is how it ended. Sad and tragic. what we need to do is help these people who feel that violence is the way. sad so so sad.
No…its cowardly to NOT attack someone who has entered your home w/ the intent to harm you.
It states in the article that the shooting occurred OUTSIDE the home. Nowhere does it say that they had entered the home with the intent of hurting anyone.
Well, thats what BDN says, anyways.
Fights can start inside and move outdoors. If they’re still on the property, they’re still a valid target.
Full investigation in the home will determine if they were in the home. Doesn’t appear to be the case as far as I can tell but we shall see.
Well four drug addicts showing up in your driveway at 4am can not be a friendly social visit!
Where in any of this states that the four were drug addicts and that this was drug related. I didn’t see that anywhere.
Agreed that a 4am meeting was probably not the best choice. So much better ways to handle disagreements :( very sad situation
Well that is just common knowledge around here!
Yes I am from Hancock County as well… although I am not currently residing there, I am aware of what has happened in the past but again it is not appropriate to speak poorly about the dead. They are not able to change the past, effect the future, nor defend themselves from the verbal and written attacks. When you judge you leave yourself open to be judged. Always remember that.
from what I am seeing… this event happened outside of the home. I feel that if you consider it a home invasion it would have to be inside of the home. If this Mr. Carter is claiming that it was a home invasion then why did he exit his home? He should have stayed inside and called 911 instead of exiting the home and fighting or shooting or whatever he did. But the evidence does show that the gunshots happened outside.
So you are big on facts jINmaine… where does it state in the article that this all happened outside?
and if just say IF… someone entereed your home unwelcomed and IF they had a gun and you were chasing them away, wouldn’t you want to make sure they weren’t coming back in?
PS Carter is a druggie too, that is not stated int he article either..more common knowledge!
it happened outside is in every article that you read
Thank you TraLyn. I did see that as well. Also if you watch the news reports and look at the photos you will see that the gunshots happened outside the home.
to your post SchooidMtn… “and if just say IF… someone entered your home unwelcomed and IF they
had a gun and you were chasing them away, wouldn’t you want to make sure
they weren’t coming back in? ”
no I would not shoot them. I would lock my doors and call 911. If they approached my home and my life was in danger from them entering my home then we would be looking at the Castle laws. You have a right to defend yourself… self defense. However if they were just threatening you… verbally or whatever the case may be… gun shots are not the answer.
The situation is that I myself have no involvement in the unsavory acts that these folks have been in the past. I have never been approached at my home being threatened, and I have never been a victim of a home invasion. I have no fear of what the visitors to my home would do. Visitors don’t scare me… I generally welcome them! who doesn’t like a little company ever now and then. This situation is out of the normal for your every day “visitor” so there is more to the story.
your right he should have called the cops , and waited , its what most downeasters do when they get themselves in a little too deep
how many friend do you know that come in groups of four in the early morning hours to work things out?
Reports from the rumor mill: Lawrence, his brother, and the 2 others went to the house to assault Carter over money (non drug-related) and it didn’t end well for the 4 attackers. If that is the case, then the shooter acted well within Maine’s Castle Law. Don’t want to get shot to death? Don’t force your way into someone’s house. Its a pretty simple thing to remember.
I’ve heard that rumor, as well as 3 or 4 others. All were different. It’s best that we let the police do their job, sort all this out, and wait for the CORRECT story.
Believing rumors, and continuing to spread them (as you are) can cause a lot of unnecessary pain, anger and sadness for the families of those involved, especially if it should come out that this rumor is completely false.
If you don’t like the station change the channel
Rumors cause nothing but heartache and pain for those that the rumors are about, and oftentimes their families too. I’m just suggesting that rather than continue to spread them, we let the police do their job, and figure out what the real story is.
If you don’t like what I’m saying, then you are free to go elsewhere as well. Heaven forbid anyone try to suggest that people have a little respect for the families of those involved, and stop the gossiping. I’m not the only one who has suggested it the past couple of days. The others get attacked too. They are accused of not wanting to hear the truth because they are friends with those involved, among other things.
I do not know any of the people involved in this. I have friends who are close to some of them, but I do not know any of them. It doesn’t change the fact that people should keep their mouths shut, their fingers quiet, and stop spreading rumors until the truth comes out.
alot of your comments could be considered rumor or speculation.
but rumor mongering is a downeast tradition…..like lobstering and getting drunk and beating the ole lady
Get over yourself hippie. “People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.”
why are you defending these bad men? they got shot as a result of their own stupidty anyway..
they had criminal records the paper even said so but i agree with jininmaine Death is never the right solution. This is a display of cowardly actions. Shooting someone to resolve disputes? Beating someone to resolve disputes? I don’t know what caused all of this to start but lets be realistic… does it matter what started it? no. what matters is how it ended. Sad and tragic. what we need to do is help these people who feel that violence is the way. sad so so sad.
4 against 1? That is why they call a gun the equalizer.
The only other reasonable explanation is they were dropping off his girl scout cookies.
have you seen one report where it says they forced their way into the house?? The crime scene is outside, and the only person that approached the steps was the one summoned there by a text message….the others waited in and near the car…. and the one that approached the steps was shot immediately….everyone wants to bash on the 4 that showed up and talk about their criminal history….the shooter had the longest criminal history of them all
Hmmm… wonder if ANY of the guns were registered?
Why would they be? Not illegal not to have them registered and it wouldn’t change a thing either way.
Tell me, where would one go to register one’s guns?
Put wheels on them and get license plates.
Wow. This article didn’t make me think of the word “door yard” at all. I was thinking about the families of these men. It’s a small community and the names are pretty well known. I know a couple of the families. And my heart goes out to them. Bet they aren’t worried about the word either. They probably are thinking about their sons, that use to be little boys…one that will never be seen again. All that will never be the same again. Really….door yard is all you got.
We have the right to bear arms its in our constitution. We also have a right to protect ourselves and our loves ones from the threat of violence. Was the force excessive? That’s ultimately up to the state police but I think you will find it wasn’t given the circumstances. To both family’s I pray for you that you will find closure in the answers ahead.
it’s been classified a homicide….doesn’t that mean it might have been a little excessive??
I guess if i take a sight-seeing tour bus of the nice places in northern Maine, the bus wont be stopping in Lamoine any time soon
I would be willing to bet Skowhegan has its share of drug using, drug dealing draws on society apprently they decided to shoot each other in Lamoine. Too bad tax payers have to pick up the bill to fix the wounded!
Considered it is in Mid Coast Maine along the Ocean and in Hancock County dont be suprised if the bus never even gets there.
Yeah Lamoine is definately not even north of Skowhegan.
Lamoine…..
It may stop in for a pit stop.
Wouldn’t really consider the coastal community of Lamoine, northern Maine.
(S)he’s from Skowhegan. Need I say more?
Does it even exist? I’ve heard of Scabhegan and Skankhegan but I never heard of Skowhegan.
What are you talking about. I never said that I like drug dealers. What I said is that what you post on this blog is inappropriate. Please recognize that these are people that we are talking about. No matter if you or I like who they are or what they do… they are still people, with families and loved ones. Humans deserve the respect. I am terribly sorry if this person was involved in unsavory acts, but that doesn’t change the fact that he is a human being. Just have a little respect for others.
Disqus generic email templateYou didn’t spend many, many yrs. dealing with this Family of drug dealers. Selling drugs to kids, beating people almost to death for giving Law-Enforcement information.
No I haven’t and I know that. Just what I am saying is that it is hard to imagine that shooting someone would be the right solution to all of this. If this family is as bad as you say… and you were in law enforcement for as long as you say. Why didn’t you do something about it LEGALLY? The reports say homicide… is that legal? That makes you no better than the others involved. You yourself are supporting illegal activity in saying that this homicide was a good thing. The act of homicide is never the right or good thing to do in an attempt to resolve anything. Let’s get realistic. I am very sorry that you were in a position that caused you emotional pain, resulting in you feeling this way. That is very sad for you, and I am sorry you wen through that. I feel for you. As with this story that too is very sad. I hope for peace and love in your future as I do for all of the parties involved in this tragic event.
http://www.wmtw.com/
Oh please! He didn’t know what the conflict was even about but he went along as backup to confront a guy at 4 AM? Oh, I so just about almost probably believe that.
Maybe if your involved in four people being shot you should keep your mouth shut until the police get things sorted out!
I think it’s just fine if he speaks out like this. It’s probably helping the police sort it out faster. I mean saying he went out at that hour to provide “backup” for something “unimportant” probably means something to the police.
He says he doesn’t remember what it was about because it was so “unimportant”. Backup would be reasonable if it means going to somebody’s house and staying there in case trouble comes visiting. He’s got that part backwards for sure. I bet he really does remember what the conflict was about but doesn’t want to say because it would only make his crew look worse.
I assume you refer to the “Shooting Victim’s Brother Speaks Out” video. It’s very enlightening: “As state police continue to investigate a quadruple shooting in Lamoine,
News 8’s Norm Karkos spoke with Jacob Sinclair, the brother of the man
who was killed.”
It’s easier for people if you post the full url like this:
http://www.wmtw.com/video/30662953/detail.html
at least it was a beautiful for it.
Soooo Is Hancock County trying to out do Waldo County in the area of senseless crimes?
If you wanna settle a dispute “once and for all”, as was suggested on facebook by the one person that wasn’t shot. Why show up at 430am?? Why bring 3 friends along?? And if Carter was the only one shooting at people, again “facts” thrown out there on the younger Sinclair’s FB page. How did Carter get shot?? Also the youngest Sinclair claims to have been sitting in a vehicle the entire time and yet the SP claim him and the young women were in Carters house?? Good luck unraveling this story detectives. It’s all twisted up and tangled in a bunch of who said what… The younger Sinclair really isn’t helping by being that confusing n his posts… And for the record I got this from the BDN and Fenceviewer articles and Sinclair’s own FB wall. Not looking to start rumors just asking the same kind of questions no doubt the detectives are…
edit: the article now reads that the younger Sinclair and the girl were AT the property and were not harmed. the story unfolds a little more every hour.
I heard ( again a rumor) that Carter’s girlfriend shot him because she couldn’t get him to stop….. again another rumor.
Supposedly, she was grabbing the gun from him and it went off, and he got shot in the process…..
Ouch! He got shot “in the process?” Hope the docs were able to fix his process.
Haha!
Well I heard she is claiming to have done all the shooting… so only the Forensics people probably know for sure.
If you could comprehend what you read you would know that that does not mean that the younger Sinclair was in the house….only at the property along with the other 3 men.
“We are taking a look at those [postings] and some others,” Coleman said, without commenting in detail about what Sinclair wrote. “That’s something that is routinely done in these types of cases.” REALLY? Lets tell the entire state that you guys check everyones facebook…. Think now people will make their pages private now and you cant get any info from them! Way to go
hey just so you know …everything we do electroniclly , facebook, twitter , atm transactions cell phone calls go through NSA, everthing!…they have been quietly passing laws to do this ..look it up ! sp nothing you do on facebook is private , so basically say what you want , its alreadyu wide open ….and for those of you sceptics go listen to the transcripts of coast to coast am, they had a guest on who discussed this very topic ….we have no rights anymore …none
Consider the source. Fear mongering works great if you believe the BS. You can shut features off on your cell phone. I would check my facts before spreading fear and I certainly wouldn’t believe a radio channel, look it up and verify for yourself/ That’s like listening to Limblah
thats right you should check the facts…. obviously you didnt , also look up patriot act and the amendments while your at it , we have no rights , not the ones we had in 2000 much different now …so go check the facts ….US GOVT thats the source you seem to need ..
the problem is is they make changes and dont do a very good job at tellin the public
its folks like you who work hard to keep folks misinformed ……
its guys like you who put the people in office who created the patriot act
oh i bet you didnt know the govt has the right to detain you for as long as they feel like , and can be executed without trail or representation……just show up and arrest you
yea there r ules just arent the same .as they were when we were kids
also they can electronicly monitor you as much as they like
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/ndaa-faq-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/
Maybe this will help you understand the law.
yea so why did they remove the law where it states its illegall to use the US military on its own people ? you need to wake up …
the wording is fine but in there it states it can detain US citizens in the
Report really? Grow up, I’m guessing you are one of the ones I used to have to deal with who can’t read or write. It is very sad and I pity you but you don’t have to be a fool too. Pathetic little game. You’re the one that would stifle free speech, exactly your type.
hey i dont know why you have such a love affair with our govt ….but my advise to you is wake the hell up ….you really dont have a clue …spend abit of time listening to alex jones
the govt isnt your buddy , and they have a big surprise comin for folks just like you
Alex Jones the consipiracy nut, lol. Can’t stand a black man in the WH can you? You’re just repeated hate and lies, you need to worry about yourself NOT me. Be sure to send them all your gold. :)
what ? i voted for him ….
hate and lies ? for who the govt ? good luck nut case
WOW
so why did they remove the law that states it illegal for the US govt to use its troops on its own people ? it was on the books since 1877, but now it needs to be changed ?
how about the part where it states that we can be detained as long as nessacery under marshall law ….fuck your links …. thye have been changing the laws to acomadate the event of marshall law
you never read it because you are either too lazy or can’t read, your level of education is obvious Stop eating the Faux Shat Still waiting for links, you have none because you are making foolish crap up as you go along. You are one of the reasons we need national health. Thorazine
How about a link to all the crap you spew? I was able to put up a link, I would like to see where the hell you get the foolishness from. Thanks, I’ll wait. :)
bush put in the Patriot act and I sure had nothing to do with him being inn office. Change the channel and read, you sound so uninformed or atleast uneducated. Ignorance breeds fear. Open your mind and as Reagan said Trust But Verify, try it.
uninformed ? its folks like you who are goin to be so surprised when the dollar fails this fall, and we switch to the gold standard agian….then comes marshall law …..its why the govt has been scrambling to change these laws ….they have nothin to do with a terrorist threat .
they see americans as a threat …..you and so many like you are so in the dark ….
you clearly ddint go read the patriot act , or you wouldnt have said that
you didnt put bush in office but ignorant folks who do what ever the govt says DID
Are you hiding under your bed with your phone? LOL BOO
of course you have a right, don’t use the internet if you don’t want any “trace” of what you do. Most law abiding citizens don’t really care who is watching them, who would bother watch me unless I’m up to no good?
did you read my entire comment?….. it wasnt just about the stupid internet, THEY(NSA) MONITOR EVERYTHING YOU DO ELECTRONICLY, atm cell phone , banking , stock tradeing everything.
dosent maytter if your some high horse do gooder,LIKE YOURSELF.
nothing is ever truly private, if it’s on the internet it’s easy enough to get.
I believe they can get a court order to make Facebook release all the users page info private or not
So sad yet so stupid. The younger sinclair’s post is very disturbing. As a Hancock County native and current resident I wonder how people can let things get so out of hand. This has been generally a great place to raise my family, we love it. Yet so many questions in this case. Why go there at 430 am? It was either fight it out or hug it out? What? So stupid to waste a life over anything, let alone a “friend fight”. I hope the survivors and their family’s wake up and learn from all this and maybe some day they can contribute to society.
3 of 5 have records and a lot of people are acting like they were saints they were not
To pastlaw and many others speaking ill of the deceased…
De mortuis nil nisi bonum (Of the dead say nothing but good)
Meaning: Show respect to people who have died by not saying
anything bad about them. Since dead people can no longer hurt us, or
defend themselves, it is better to forget their bad actions and remember
only their good ones.
Pointless, you have no idea what you are talki ng about just regurgitating what you hear. You don’t have any links because you are making it up/parroting it. Quite sad and pitiful. Hard to believe your lack of intellectual curiosity. That’s why you are so easy to lead to the slaughter.
I have read so much about background of the Sinclair men, true or untrue. I have heard nothing about if their parents were involved in their life and in raising them. You try to instill in your children values that will help them make wise decisions when they become adults. I was wondering if perhaps they never had that. So tragic.