One of the most indelible images from the O.J. Simpson story came when a TV camera crew set up in a lecture hall at Howard University, a mostly black school. The law school class sat, waiting to hear the verdict in the controversial murder trial. When the not guilty decision was announced, the students — all of whom appeared to be of African descent — burst out of their seats in jubilation, hugging each other and cheering.
The reaction seemed, to nonblacks, bizarre. What could the students possibly be cheering? That a former football player and second-rate actor, who did little for and with his fellow African-Americans, had beaten the odds? Were they cheering the success of the savvy and flamboyant attorney, Johnnie Cochran? Or was it all this and more?
The tragic death of Trayvon Martin, the Sanford, Fla., 17-year-old shot to death by a man acting under the auspices of a neighborhood watch program in a gated community again highlights this perception gap. Though contrary versions of what led to the shooting are now in play, the fact that an unarmed black teen raised the suspicions of a 28-year-old armed man should be troubling to all. And it should shed light on what life is like as a minority.
Too often, nonblacks dismiss the complaints of stereotyping and profiling as paranoia or political grandstanding. Most nonblack Americans do not see themselves as bigoted, so they logically conclude that the complaints are unfounded, or at least exaggerated.
But that’s the heart of this disconnect. Until nonblacks walk in the shoes of people of color, they can never understand what it’s like to be on the receiving end of nervous glances and suspicious questions. Even if Trayvon Martin assaulted George Zimmerman, the man who admitted to shooting the teen, Mr. Zimmerman had already called police about the black teen walking through the gated community before the two had any contact.
This guilty-until-proven-innocent reaction is evidence of a serious divide in our society. From time to time, we are confronted with this divide and reminded of its pervasiveness and corrosiveness.
Often, there is an economic component. When the economy sours, the poor become more desperate, the middle class and working poor become more resentful of those receiving state assistance and the rich become suspicious of class unrest.
And, of course, there is often a political component to these fissures in the social fabric. Florida adopted a “Stand Your Ground” law which Mr. Zimmerman relied upon to protect him from his actions. The law, as it has been explained in news reports, allows people to use deadly force against someone they perceive to be threatening.
New York Times columnist Paul Krugman asserts that the language of this law was not generated by a frightened populace worried about facing legal problems for defending itself from marauding criminals. Rather, the columnist writes, its language is similar to that drafted by ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the conservative think-tank that has provided templates for laws in many state legislatures, including Maine’s.
Ultimately, legislators are responsible for the bills they approve, and so ALEC and its counterparts on the right and left should not be demonized. But the fact that a conservative think-tank has on its agenda a law to provide cover for would-be vigilantes speaks of a more profound divide than that between blacks and whites, haves and have nots.
The Trayvon Martin story may be an aberration, or it may be more evidence that our society is focused less on what we have in common and more on what divides us.
“The Trayvon Martin story may be an aberration, or it may be more evidence that our society is focused less on what we have in common and more on what divides us.”
In fact, let us highlight it some more.
yep
and that is how Snowe and Collins stay in power.
as long as the other class is the enemy, the government is not the enemy
When I first read about this story it sounded like an old racist jewish guy was the shooter.
Now it turns out its a 28 year old hispanic guy who looks scarier than the victim.
How come there’s no mention that Zimmerman is a minority as much or more so than Obama is ?
And if you look at currents of power in our society, you can’t help but notice that the leadership, particularly on the right, is heavily skewed toward white men. And when you add things like the hysteria over Obama’s birth certificate, you have to wonder how much racism is subconscious yet very powerful; and also how much of it is conscious and festering, yet carefully concealed.
Works every time. Play the race card. Despicable. When in doubt play that card and let the noise it creates drown out any real dialogue. Absolutely despicable.
Well said, Harry. But let’s focus on the facts of Obama’s administrative management successes and downfalls instead of racial overtones or mentions. No reflection on Obama at all in any of my comments, as my family and I are non-whites ourselves, but when one of his diminutive administrative officers left over a year and a half ago to run for some Chicago, Illinois top city office and won on a platform of honesty, integrity, and to rid corruption from Chicago, Chicago is still in the top 3 most corrupt and ill-operated cities in the USA, if not number 1. Insider’s report through many media-generated sources available to everyone via computer, tell exactly what is happening inside any presidential administration and government for all to see. Sure wish more folks would check facts before figuring what local newspapers (not blaming BDN for anything here) and small-time TV news outlets broadcast.
Indeed. Focusing on the facts would really help out in times like these.
Yes, Harry. True enough. We can go anyplace in any forum run in any media outlet and find that people get off track or have their own styles of outlining their versions of the article or news story. I watch CNN Anderson Cooper at night and on this particular news story we are talking about, seems even the newscasters, anchors and pundits are confused. Even when Whit Houston passed, everyone sparkled with non-factual enthusiasm.
Deny racism and call others racist–best way to hide your racism.
The bottom line is that angry white men rule the Republican world, and that means something, whether you like it or not.
Nanny nanny boo boo would have been a better comeback but I guess its the best you can do.
I guess you don’t have a single argument. And I suppose you think there was no racism by the Florida police or Zimmerman in this incident, and you’ve used this forum to disrespect the whole issue.
No surprise.
How is there racism on the part of police where it was prosecutors who told the police they did not have sufficient evidence for an arrest? How can you allude that the police chief was bigoted without knowing anything about him? That is shameful.
It may just turn out that there was more “” Nepotisim “” than Racism involved.
Zimmermans father was a retired judge and familiar with the Sanford Police.
http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
How do you know it was “racism” and not anti-adolescent bias? Having cared for many teenagers over the years, I see anti-teenager discrimination quite often.
Al Sharpton is not a unifier. He never sought that role. He’s very much like the white guy Donald Trump in that he really likes to bask in the lights near TV cameras.
Sharpton besmirched a whole community up in Newberg New York in the 1980’s accused everyone up there of being “racist” and of “cover up”. Turns out the whole incident was based on a lie. Oops…
Since that time I hesitate to follow the stampeding cattle into these dust-ups. It’s a Florida crime, let Florida handle it!
Just like the last regime let FL handle the Terry Schiavo case? Oh right, pick and choose.
Yeah let Florida handle Terry Svhiavo too. I was no big fan of the “last regime either…
So maybe some of your “prejudices” are incorrect too?
Tawana Brawley
How do we know that Zimmerman was not suffering from “hoodiephobia”? Do you know how many citizens get beat up and mugged by persons wearing hoodies every day?
Are you in favor of quotas? If yes, you are a racist.
I see that, from your special vantage point in northern New England, you have exclusive insights into this Trayvon matter. Will you share your special sources with us?
He wasn’t trying for a comeback, he was trying to refute your nonsensical and repulsively untrue claim – which he did very successfully.
And the only despicable thing going on here is the way you’re acting an apologist for the hideous anti-black racism that’s still so virulent in America today.
The race war is being fought on both sides. It’s not just a white mans war. I’m sure you don’t see it that way.
I guess you don’t see the racism by the Florida police or Zimmerman.
Zimmerman is half hispanic. The whole story isn’t out yet. The media likes to refer to him as white. Go figure.
I agree, racism doesn’t just occur between white people and everyone else, it goes the other way too. Ever heard the term “whitey”?
But consider for a moment your own comment, “Zimmerman is half hispanic”. Perhaps you’re just making a point but did you look at the picture of Martin and see a “half black” person or did you just see “black”. Why make that distinction?
I don’t ask that as an accusation but as an invitation to think about why we (including myself) say and think the things we do. As long as we think critically about ourselves I’d like to think there’s hope for us as a society.
While your thinking that way you might also like to think why Miss Black America is acceptable or Black Entertainment Television is acceptable.
It’s obvious you have yet to read Obama’s books ! You want to see racist , do some reading !
Absolutely despicable? No.
What’s absolute despicable is when people like you refuse to acknowledge that their fellow Americans are still, half a century after the Civil Rights movement, being treated like second class citizens.
Do you know who treats them like true Second Class citizens? The Democrats. All of these affirmative action programs presuppose that persons of a particular race cannot compete due to inherent deficiencies. They therefore require outside help to be ‘equal’. If you try to make the argument that present racial bias towards blacks is to ‘make up’ for past injustices, I may just have a hissy fit, seeing as how, I never held slaves, and none of these persons were ever in slave status. It is not arguable: blacks were far better off in 1965 than they were today. More employment, lower illegitimacy, lower crime, two-parent families… By any measure, they had it better in the 60s. That is not my sole opinion, by the way, but the opinion of folks like Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams, Larry Elder, and others in that community… This is what 50 years of tender government ‘caring’ have done to blacks. Small wonder then that people cringe when someone shows up and says, “I’m from the Government, and I’m here to help you…”
I think he has played it every day this week, hasn’t he…?
and if you look at the divide and conquer ploys perpetrated by the wealthy white elite, continuing to sensationalize and further divide our people… you will never see where the real probliem lies.
that said… when will some upstanding wealthy American Negros stand up and kick some butt… telling the next generation to look presentable and stop glorifying gangstahood?
The neighborhood watch was implemented because of high crime and low p0lice presence. If the dead kid has pleasantly said who he was and what he was doing in that neighborhood, none of this would have happened. The neighborhood watch guy has a right to ask why the kid is in his neighborhood. The kid has a right to keep right on walking and not take a shot.
The young man would also be alive if Zimmerman had followed the directions of 911 and not continued following Martin. Zimmerman took justice into his own hands and that is as much the cause for this tragedy as was race.
And let’s face facts. Racism was a part of this and not what he was wearing. Kids and even adults like to wear the latest fashion (BTW heavily marketed by corporate America) and news reports trying to make him guilty for wearing a hoodie – on a cold night – is nonsense. Plenty of kids in Maine wear hoodies. Are they gangsters? No. Just kids.
Zimmerman called the police and that is where his actions should have stopped. He’s a wannabe cop who did not make the grade and is living out his fantasy as a neighborhood watch captain. Zimmerman went looking for trouble and found a teenager who fit the bill. Once he found him, his actions led to the death of a 17 year old with a box of candy and some ice tea in his hands.
There was no threat to Zimmerman or the community at any time.
a 6′ 2″ in stranger in a gated community with crime issues is not a kid.
It was his gated community! Good lord! And yes, a 17-year-old is still a kid. Like it or not.
It was not his gated community. He was sent there to stay with Dad and GF while some drug problems he had in his real neighborhood were resolved.
So he was a stranger to the local neighborhood watch.
“Crime issues?” I suppose you’re referring to the lies made up about Trayvon by the right wing noise machine in an attempt to make a teenage black murder victim look like a thug?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/26/452310/what-everyone-needs-to-know-about-the-smear-campaign-against-trayvon-martin-1995-2012/?mobile=nc
Slandering murdered children? I’d like to say that that’s a new low even for the right wing, but unfortunately even that sort of ghoulishly inhuman behavior is nothing new for them.
If you would like to compare the comments of extremist I can post some on here from your side. Louis Farrakan comes to mind for a likely place to start searching for quotes.
You mean the lie that Trayvon who called himself NO LIMITS NIGGA. on twitter etal?
Or the “lie” that the MSM promotes by publishing a picture of sweet Trayvon at 13 years old ?
Or the lie that Zimmerman not only is 1/2 hispanic but 1/2 Jewish so that he definitely should get special privileges?
Or the lie that Zimmerman is just as much a minority or more so than Obama ?
PS – thinkprogress has much less validity as a reference than even rushlimbaugh com
or if someone else doesn’t want to research – this doesn’t sound like a lie either:
What could be even more alarming than this? I’ve just learned that the youth’s “no limit nigga” lingo -lingo that was found on his Twitter account – is actually POPULAR slang used by the Florida Black Foot Soldiers when they are talking about what they call “black on white (BOW) reparations protests.’ References are even found on their Website!
……” Zimmerman went looking for trouble and found a teenager who fit the bill. Once he found him, his actions led to the death of a 17 year old with a box of candy and some ice tea in his hands”……..
And you “know” this because: 1)You were there?, 2)Because you “read” that?. or 3)Because that it what you want to believe?
Trayvon was not a “boy” or “child” as the media and supporters are quick to say. He was a 17 yr old “man”. Lots of 17 yr olds died fighting WWII in our military. Only the media would refer to him as a child.
Much more news this morning about his background and how his image has been ‘sanitized by media and supporters.
Better wait for all the facts to emerge before we hang anyone.
We all know this because Zimmerman followed him after 911 told him not to – that they would respond. He could not let it go and he hunted him down. It’s sad to be so brutal, but its true.
This young was a legal minor. That’s a fact. As for Audie Murphy and all the underage vets: who’s to say Trayvon would not serve? Regardless, he was 17.
Add to that the hysteria about illegal immigrants. Listen to how neo-cons refer to them as leeches, as though they have nothing to contribute to our society. I see immigrants as a wonderful thing – they bring talents, new ideas, work ethics and skills that we don’t need. A racist see’s them as a drain.
Hold on now, I agree wholeheartedly with your statement that immigrants are a wonderful thing. I agree with you that they bring new energy and life to our country. Having said that, I have a problem with illegal immigration – does that make me a racist? I don’t think so. I would hope that we could have a debate on the issue of undocumented immigration into our country without labeling as racists those that perceive uncontrolled undocumented immigration as a threat to our Country’s economic and social fabric.
The language, tone and cruelty used by neo-cons clearly taps into racist sentiments. The appeals to racism are obvious, and that needs to be pointed out.
I think you know we dislike whites abusing any of our systems as much as we do any other color abusing our system. Most of those abusing our system in Maine are white. If it were really about racism as you would wish to make it, then it would stand to reason we wouldn’t care about the issue in this State. The fact that we are trying so hard to change things in this State does a great deal to prove your lack of a point.
Your argument: We care about racism in Maine, therefore there is no racism.
Response: Huh?
You misstated my point almost as well as it could be done.
There is no racism in arguing against waste fraud and abuse without any regard to the color of the perpetrators.
Waste fraud has nothing to do with racism, so there is no racism?
Huh?
You would help out a black person before helping a white male. Does that make you noble or a racist? BTW, have you ever lived anywhere as a minority?
You’re a minority. Hardly anyone believes the earth is flat anymore.
I see what he is saying. He’s saying it isn’t racist to argue about waste, fraud and abuse as long as you don’t mention race. He pretends not to realize that he is making some kind of connection between waste, fraud and abuse, with race with that statement. You know, kind of like “Food Stamp President.”
Numbers help. There are FOUR TIMES as many self idntified “caucasians” on public assistance as there are self identified minorities. ALL MINORITIES1
Another inconvenient truth.
Amen! And, when the leftists almost automatically start casting everything you say in the light of charges of racism, it tells us a lot more about THEM than it does us. Racism! Racism! Racism! They are like a broken record. For the record: it is possible to hold a different opinion without bringing up charges of racism. Remember what happened to Chicken Little? After a while, his constant whinging resulted in people regarding his pronouncements as little more than background noise.
People who support certain demographics immediately call a rational discussion about illegal immigration as “anti-immigrant.” Neo-cons hardly have a corner on the race card market.
I don’t want anyone–of any race–to enter this country illegally, and I want them to stay even less. There is a line to come here, and if you want to come, get in it! If someone here hates that the line is too long, change the law. But please don’t encourage lawlessness.
That ain’t gonna happen. Besides the illegal immigrants are not breaking the law. Duuuhhh
I see illegal anything as wrong and that has nothing to do with color. I think we all do and you know it, it is just easier for you to imagine it all has to do with racism as opposed to reality.
Absolutely; total Bangorian logic. The boat is sinking, there is no more room. We have a 9% unemployment rate, and we should be delighted with the fact that people come here illegally.
I think you meant ” skills that we DO need”?
I see immigrants just as you do. I see illegal immigrants as just that , illegal !
dumbest comment of the day
Why do you say that? Are you white? Are you male? Have you looked around yourself? What color & gender are the top 10 positions in Maine’s government (then break it down by R vs. D)? What color and gender are the top 10 positions in the company you work for? What about the hospital you go to care for? Answer those questions and then say again that SpruceDweller is wrong that American society is skewed toward white & male.
Could it be that, especially in this state, that the most qualified candidates are both white and male?
Non white/non male qualified candidates would be fools to come to Maine to fill positions here, rather than take positions in larger states where there is more upward opportunity, and they are not from, here in Maine already or want to come here for the living conditions.
This statement in no way denigriates Maine, but is true of any of the more rural states.
What is the racial makeup of this state in percentages and does State Government reflect that racial makeup?
That would probably be a more valid way to look at State Government or any representation.
What color are the persons in the top ten city government positions in Detroit, MI? How about Baltimore? How about Washington, D.C.? If you are trying to say that black is somehow more “noble” than other colors when it comes to public service, you FAIL.
So there isn’t much diversity in one of the most vanilla states in the Union?
For broader perspective: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html
I agree that this was tragic and when all the facts are in someone needs to be held responsible. It is a waste of life….but about the article, I find it in poor taste to speak of a classroom full of black people watching and finding joy as they watch a famous black man get away with killing a white woman and a white man. That is also racist. I find it sad that anyone wants to hide the truth in this country about racism, because you cannot fix what you won’t acknowledge. Colors are beautiful, people are not.
I think someone already was held “responsible”. The skittles defense only works until the facts emerge.
Yeah, folks like Allen West, General Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, and Herman Cain are apparently just aberrations.
We are indeed fortunate to have those individuals, but yes, they ARE aberrations.
The left plays the race card more often and as dishonestly as any white male
You can ‘wonder’ all you like; there are serious questions about that birth certificate.
It seems to me that every side wants to paint a picture. Their pictures seem to reflect their personal agendas.
IMO, this was a fairly simple case of a man who was focused on protecting property and quite possibly building his personal ego. It’s a tragic story. Both sides are suffering a tragic loss. Treyvan has lost his life and his parents have lost a son. Zimmerman has forever lost his previous life. There will be no winners in this travesty.
I do wonder if the authors and those who signed onto this law that is being touted as the reason for this tragedy, have second thoughts.
second thoughts about what?
do you know what the law is all about?
if a person walks into your house, and points a gun at your head
and your wife shoots him, and neither of you made an attempt to retreat and get out of danger,
SHE is guilty in maine… because in Maine there is a duty to retreat, in Florida, one has a right to stand his/her ground.
is that really a problem?
do the criminals really have so many rights, that otherwise law abiding citizens should not have?
First of all, this incident didn’t happen in anyones home.
From all reports, Zimmerman was the one pursuing. He was told to stop by the 9/11 dispatcher. How can you possibly claim self defense when you are 100 lb heavier, 11 years older, have a gun, etc.
I believe that just recently we have had a couple of cases where people have used deadly force in Maine and I haven’t seen these people being charged with murder. Please cite differing cases if you have them.
You neglect to mention that Zimmerman didn’t fire any shot until he had been beaten first.
You also don’t know how the beatings started but that doesn’t seem to matter to you and the lynch mob. The police investigated but again the details don’t seem to matter much when you’ve already bought your rope.
Why was Mr. Zimmerman beaten?
That’s a good question? Should it be legal to beat you because you are walking down the street watching a person? I still think that may be called assault if you tried it in downtown Bangor and I still think that if you assault me and I am armed I am going to shoot to defend myself rather than allow my legally carried weapon to fall into your hands.
The “stand your ground” law has no real bearing on this case, it is merely being used by the anti-gun crowd because they do not like the law. The “stand your ground” law removes the DUTY TO RETREAT if you are threatened with imminent violence or death. By following Martin, Zimmerman automatically negated the protection of the “stand your ground” law.
However it does seem like some judges are pretty quick to allow a shooter to walk using a “self defense” argument.
Just look at the rising violence here in Maine, and how many of the victims have been able to succesfully defend themselves by killing or wounding their attackers. How is that a bad thing? We are a rural state with police presence pretty thin on the ground, I certainly would not place my families safety in the hands of a police force that is 20-25 minutes away, would you?
I am not saying that defending yourself or family is a bad thing and as far as I can recall these cases recently in Maine have been pretty well documented and good police procedure folllowed. They also involved actuall crimes.
On the surface, this kid was not in the process of committing a crime. If he was, that has yet to come to light from either the right or left leaning media.
Assault isn’t a crime?
Yep, assault is a crime. It usually requires someone to go after someone to commit the assault. Ist there any evidence that the kid went in pursuit of Mr. Zimmerman?
Do you mean other that jumping on top of Zimmerman and breaking his nose and smashing his head into the ground…? Nope.
Apparently, you are reading different media than many others. He was committing a crime by attacking Mr. Zimmerman…beating his head into the sidewalk.
Who confronted who?
Did a kid returning from 7-11 with skittles and iced tea go out looking for trouble?
What would be your reaction if you were confronted by someone who outweighed you by 100 lbs after dark?
Most people either fight or flight is the reaction.
Sounds like Trayvon tried to stand his ground.
Should be no second thoughts about the “stand your ground law”. Based on the facts that were released yesterday, this is a simple case of self defense. By all accounts, the stand your ground law has resulted in significant decreases in crime. Wish Maine would enact it.
Interesting hiding behind the paper and not putting your name on your adolescent idealistic diatribes. MISS Groening. You act and speak like a woman, so I can only assume.. You certainly don’t speak from a centrist point. Your a COWARD. Put your name on your comments.
What’s your point besides revealing a derogatory nature, yourself (your reference to women being idealists and cowards)?
My original post was PULLED for content. The second is in response to the aggravation of randomly pulling text that have nothing questionable.
As far as the comment, I was questioning his manhood, it really had nothing to do with women. If anyone was offended in that manner I apologize. But, i’m sure you can find a way to spin it in that direction, CAN”T YA?
Wow, wonder if I get ta be like the politicians that keep apologizing but it DOESN”T MATTER DOES IT??? If someone said something if it’s from a faction that you disagree with then they are branded for life, RIGHT????
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I was speaking to the head of the Editorial staff, not a poster on here. But lemme say, if you’re willing I am. And no, you did not star in FIGHT CLUB.
Goes to show and prove some state laws and federal laws need a rewrite! When unfortunate circumstances such as this one in the article become worldwide news, the attention is drawn to discussions that America, like most other countries, still have not grown up yet and society as it is, is shameful sometimes. This story about Trayvon Martin is the buzz of the day. It will pass, but someday after the dust has settled and the federal investigation is over with and Florida’s legislature gets a life, and laws are reconstructed, there will be something else happening in Florida that will create international and national controversy and shame. Nothing changes.
I think Mr. Zimmerman will be vindicated when his case is heard in Grand Jury, rather than the in the blind and inaccurate press.
It seems to me that Hispanics have been the recipients of racism and prejudice as well as blacks. Mr Zimmerman is part Hispanic is he not?
“His father is white, neighbors say. His mother is Latina. And his family
is eager to point out that some of his relatives are black.”
Lots of conflicting stories out there.
Gated communities in Florida are not exclusively for the rich. I know people of relatively modest means that live in one. The gates are more about security in a high crime areas than exclusivity.
The more “popular” new agency’s have Mr. Zimmerman painted as being a White Hispanic! It makes for a better story vs a Hispanic shooting a black person, wearing a hoodie, at 3am in a gated community in Florida.
You hit the nail on the head..
Your argument: Zimmerman is the victim of racism, therefore he can’t be a racist.
Counterargument: victims of racism can be racist, therefore your argument fails.
Not my argument at all. I was commenting on the editorial.
Your argument. I am stupid and don’t understand context.
Counter argument: Isn’t any.
I grew up in a neighborhood like the one in this story. We learned early on that you do not bring a bag of skiddles to a gun fight.
I have never read a more racist, uninformed, pack of lies in an editorial then the ones written here by somebody who probably claims to be a journalist. The misinformation delivered here is reprehensible, the facts left out in the writing of this editorial should lead to the dismissal of the writer. It is so clearly written in a one sided manner that it is unbelievable. Where are the eye witness accounts? Where is the back ground info of the folks involved? Where is the proof of the lies published about the shooter?
In our country we have a very important discussion that needs to take place on race. It is not a one sided conversation, as Al Sharpton and his ilk would have you believe. Articles like this one in the BDN are very unresponsible and only contribute to the problem.
Your big accomplishment in this editorial is to have the reader believe black folks are justified in cheering for O.J. Simpson’s acquittal. Jumping on the press bandwagon is the easy way to write about something you obviously are afraid to be honest about.
So, it’s racist now to point out racism? It’s racist now to talk about profiling and stereotyping?
Get a life man, You don’t get to call up down.
I love it when the elitest try to twist my words because they hate to accept the truth. This article is not discussing, its blaming. It is so convenient to leave out the facts when your on the editorial staff of a major newspaper.
Is latino on black racism rampant in our communities? Is there one shred of evidence that racism occured in this incident?
Next thing you will be telling me is the good reverend AL and Jesse along with Louis Farrakhan and the black panthers are not opportunist looking for a headline to scream racism. If they really cared about taking care of the race they belong to they would scream and holler everyday over the biggest threat to they’re population: Each other. Today, the black panthers put a $10K bounty on Zimmermans head, they tried to disguise it but everybody gets the point. How do you like that for up/down? Maybe you were right on with the University students, cheering when OJ got off? Past wrongs by one group, race, etc. doesn’t justify present and future wrongs by another.
Okay, good boy, you’ve done a great job of regurgitating all the fringe-right talking points provided for you for this matter.
You complain about the exact behaviors you’re engaging in, that makes you a hypocrite.
You have no facts, you’re a liar. There is a huge difference between the Black Panthers and The New Black Panthers.
Yea, they are a regular group of choir boys.
Nah, you’re the still the liar. The New Black Panthers are not associated with and they are continuous denounced by the original Black Panthers.
Eitherway, you’re still only searching for the news and “facts” that you like. That isn’t what being informed is, it’s what being a partisan hack is.
Here’s your facts. Your the liar.
http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/
Let’s see the eye witness accounts and back ground checks are just getting underway by an outside entity seperated from the Sanford PD. They should have done all that at the scene but apparaently failed to do so.
What we do have is factual 911 tapes telling Mr. Zimmerman to not follow Treyvon Martin. We do know that a 17 year old was returning to his fathers house and was in fact within 70 yards of the door when he was confronted by a much bigger man carrying a gun. We do know that there was an altercation that followed and that the 17 year old was shot and killed. We do know that the police were already enroute at the time of the incident.
I do agree that OJ Simpson shouldn’t have been brought into this story. Total different set of circumstances altogether.
The 911 tapes did not tell him not to follow, they said you do not need to follow. The neighborhood watch in those areas have heard that before and the criminals have gotten away before. Locals blame the neighborhood watch if they do not watch. That is a fact.
We know that this 17 year old was an unknown 6′ 2″ person who was hooded which is something criminals do to attempt to hide their identities. Our kids copy that in the city as part of “the look”. Too bad we let them but that is a fact.
We do not know he was confronted by a man with a gun so that is “a fact” you have made up.
We do know that somehow Mr. Zimmerman ended up beaten and bloodied but you leave that fact out.
We do know that a young eye witness says that Mr. Zimmerman was the one on the ground calling for help before the shooting. You also leave that fact out.
You appear to be picking and choosing your “facts”.
Maybe you should check out the pictures of this young man that do not show him in his more innocent years of 12-13. You may get a better picture of the person Zimmerman as following while on patrol in the wee hours that night.
trayvon.tk has some good ones since the web has been scrubbed and cleaned up in most other locations to “protect his image”.
So your facts allow you to shoot somebody if you don’t like how they look? To shoot someone that you were stalking?
What part of beaten and bloody don’t you understand?
As for stalking, I don’t believe being on the same street as someone counts as stalking and if it does be careful walking down the street from now on.
Neighborhood watch has a function. If you do not allow them to watch you sort of defeat that function don’t you?
You have just as little evidence as the rest of us and yet somehow you’re the one who is allowed to deny obvious issues and jump to your own unfounded conclusions? And we’re all supposed to accept what you deduce?
If there is an issue with someone you suspect of wrong-doing and you nor any one else is in imminent danger — call the cops and have them handle it. Don’t confront the guy and brandish a weapon. That’s murder, that’s not self-defense.
The thing is I am not saying anything that is not in the police reports, and you are.
Please state anywhere you have read, from any report that Zimmerman confronted the young man and brandished his weapon.
The fact that the kid was unarmed and is now dead.
I have not heard even ONE piece of evidence that Zimmerman actually confronted Martin.
I find it perfectly normal for Zimmerman to have called 911 and to be
suspicious of Martin. 3:00 AM, single young male in hoodie walking in
gated community, race irrelevant in fact.
If as you insinuate, Zimmerman had confronted Martin with a gun I doubt
strongly that Martin would have attacked him. But actually brandishing a
gun would have been illegal and would have been enough in itself to get
Zimmerman in trouble.
If Zimmerman was open carrying them Martin was just plain stupid and
should simply have explained where he was going and why. Or RUN away. If Zimmerman
was concealed carrying then I think the more likely scenario is that
Martin was not the innocent choir boy being portrayed. I’m betting he
had a chip on his shoulder and thought he could teach the “whitey” a
lesson. He guessed wrong.
And you’re going to try and claim you’re not a racist? Where the hell are you getting your “I’m betting he had a chip on his shoulder and thought he could teach the “whitey” a lesson. ” from? You’re going to pull crap like that out of the sky and then demand evidence of others? What a hypocrite you are.
I can think of several reasons why Martin initiated an assault rather than calmly asking why he was being followed and explaining why he was there at that time of night or simply running that last 70 yards home and reporting to his father that he was being followed.
None of them good.
Lets see….
1. He really was up to no good and the skittles and iced tea were irrelevant.
2. He was just another angry young man. Race irrelevant. “Chip on shoulder”.
3 He was racist.
And calling me racist for pointing out some of the troubling and as yet unanswered questions about this incident says a lot more about you than me.
You’re really sticking to that, aren’t you? Zimmerman was beaten and bloody because he followed an unarmed 17-year-old, who hadn’t done a thing, in his car despite being told not to by a 911 dispatcher. The 17-year-old was in his own gated community and was nearly home after buying Skittles and iced tea. Zimmerman got out of his car with a gun and confronted Martin: I don’t know anyone who, at that point, would NOT fight for their lives. This wasn’t a neighborhood watch. This was a vigilante who took things much too far. “Self defense” doesn’t stand–once Zimmerman ignored the dispatcher and got out of his car, he cooked his own goose.
I have not heard even ONE piece of evidence that Zimmerman actually confronted Martin. I find it perfectly normal for Zimmerman to have called 911 and to be suspicious of Martin. 3:00 AM, single young male in hoodie walking in gated community, race irrelevant in fact.
If as you insinuate, Zimmerman had confronted Martin with a gun I doubt strongly that Martin would have attacked him. But actually brandishing a gun would have been illegal and would have been enough in itself to get Zimmerman in trouble.
If Zimmerman was open carrying them Martin was just plain stupid and should simply have explained where he was going and why. If Zimmerman was concealed carrying then I think the more likely scenario is that Martin was not the innocent choir boy being portrayed. I’m betting he had a chip on his shoulder and thought he could teach the “whitey” a lesson. He guessed wrong.
May I suggest you do some more reading about the facts. You appear to be have purchased all the mainstream media offered.
You’re basically admitting to ignoring the facts you don’t like and search for ones you do like.
Here you go.
http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/
Often gated communities limit access in Florida depending on community rules. If you visit one you may become the responsibility of the person who invited you. I wonder what the rules are here.
Oh look! Trayvon Martin’s tweets have surfaced. Uh oh… read these; he doesn’t sound like a 12-year old choir boy… I wonder what else we don’t know about him. This does not fit the narrative established so far by the hard-working press… Here ya go: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/the-daily-caller-obtains-trayvon-martins-tweets/#ixzz1qGztV3LT
So my 14 month old grandson wears a hoodie to hide his identity. What happened to the fact they were called hooded jackets and sweatshirts before they started selling them as hoodies? Does all closthing with hoods need to be banned.
doubt very much that your 14 month old could be described as a 6’2″ stranger in a gated community.
The hoodie isn’t the problem but it is one of the signs that a crime ridden gated community might look for when it comes to people who may be up to no good in the wee hours of the morning.
Along with Tats, Shaven Heads, Crowbars, Piercings, and any number of other descriptors that at other times and under other circumstances would never be an issue.
Do you really have to resort to exaggeration as the only way to make your outrage work for you?
How about putting yourself in the shoes of the people who live in this community where crime is so bad that you have to put a fence between you and the world.
Who are the usual criminals? What signs should a good watchman look for?
Why do you use the term nonblacks? It’s total opportunism on the part of BDN, you wish so badly this guy wasn’t Hispanic. He will now become half Hispanic because it is much more convenient to let your naive readers allow the white part into their minds.
Nobody has ever been half black or half hispanic or half korean, etc. until now.
Come on, people of a minority group have been called _____ Americans, ie. African Americans, Franco Americans, Cuban Americans …
Want to see how tough Maine’s Judicial system can be when the system wants to be? Just be a black male.
Three years ago, a convicted drug dealer got 10 years in a Somerset County courtroom. Usually drug dealers get a handful of days in jail and a long suspended sentence.
Two years ago, A defendant that committed a serious crime, but there was no death, got a life jail sentence in a Somerset County courtroom. Usually, even a defendant that committed a crime with death occurring, do not get life sentences.
So why did the above defendants get such tough sentencing in Maine courtrooms? that usually only gives out light sentences and suspended sentences. They were black defendants.
I believe that the poor downtrodden defendent that got live in jail did commit a serious crime. A crime that for all intents and purposes failed, in that he sure tried to kill a father and a little girl. He hacked them with a machette. Permanently scaring them both physically and mentally. I firmly believe that race would make no difference in the out come of the trial. I for one would much rather see this individual locked behind bars for life. I pray that somewhere down the road some ‘do-gooder’ doesn’t get the opportunity to have this individual released back into society.
As for the other cases, I don’t know the particulars. Do you have the court transcripts? Do you know their history? Were they involved in drug dealings in other states?
You may have a case, but you are forgetting one important facet. No body is holding a gun at the head of people forcing them to commit crimes. They actually have to make the effort to commit a crime or crimes. There are alternatives to committing crimes. Most of us prefer to be law abiding citizens.
As i already posted.
Both black defendants deserved thier sentence. The racism is white defendants get light,easy or no jail sentences when committing similar crimes in Somerset County courtrooms.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the gentleman had a horrendous record that preceded him. If the sentence was unconscienable, would it not have been overturned? Yes. Maine’s judiciary follows strict rules in sentencing. It had nothing to do with color. It had everything to do with the prevailing facts of the case.
He did. Both black defendants deserved thier sentence.
The racism is white defendants get light,easy or no jail sentences when committing similar crimes in Somerset County courtrooms.
Whites do not get 10 year jail sentences in Somerset County courtrooms,only blacks.
Whites do not get life sentences for crimes where a death did not happen in Somerset County courtrooms. Only Blacks
Please cite a case in Somerset County, or anyother county in Maine where a white, or anyother ethnic or racial group individual, hacked a father and little girl with a machette and left them for dead?
Zimmerman was doing a neighborhood watch for a reason. There had been a lot of break ins in this gated community, yes gated. He should have not been there, nor should he have attacked Mr Zimmerman. This is not a case of stand your ground, it is a clear case of self defense. Get it right, and stop pandering to racial hatred. The main stream media got this one wrong, and jumped on a hot button race related topic.
John, get your facts straight. Treyvon was within his rights to be where he was at. His father lived inside the gated community and he was returning from a convenience store. He almost made it back to his fathers door. 70 yards away. He was confronted by Mr. Zimmerman, not the other way around.
I’ve already pointed out how you are picking and choosing your facts. Then you tell others to get their facts straight.
Nice one.
You were there? or you just going on the reports from others that were not there ie Jackson, Sharpton, NBP et al?
I am repeating what I have heard from both Fox news and CNN and NBC. Have you heard different? Have the police come out to give a different version? Was he killed somewhere else?
Was the 911 operator recording doctored? Please enlighten me.
That’s not what the witnesses are saying Patom1
he didn’t the right to throw the first punch
and once Zimmerman was subdued, he did not have the right to reapeatedly smash zimmerman’s head into the ground.
–all these “non-racist” whites assuming that by saying that Martin was innocent, THAT PROVES that the good posters of Maine are not racist.
again. it is only the liberals who bring race into this
One more time…Zimmerman was beaten and
bloody because he followed an unarmed 17-year-old, who hadn’t done a
thing, in his car despite being told not to by a 911 dispatcher. The
17-year-old was in his own gated community and was nearly home after
buying Skittles and iced tea. Zimmerman got out of his car with a gun
and confronted Martin: I don’t know anyone who, at that point, would NOT
fight for their lives. This wasn’t a neighborhood watch. This was a
vigilante who took things much too far. “Self defense” doesn’t
stand–once Zimmerman ignored the dispatcher and got out of his car, he
cooked his own goose.The facts are emerging bit by bit, and so far what we have is a murder, plain and simple.
In reading this article as well as seeing this story shower our news it is a sad day for our country. At no time in my life have I ever seen anybody that was a part of a neighborhood watch carry a gun. And after being told several times to back off and not follow Mr. von Martin, as well as put the gun away he decided to shoot. Even though I may not live in Florida I do believe racism is a factor here. I am sure that if it were a black man heading a neighborhood watch and shot a white man he would be in jail right now. That being said I don’t think white people are the only prejudiced people. I have been to other states that are mostly african american they don’t take kindly to us either. A nd the fact that they cheered for o.j. Simpson showes how truly disrespectful they can be. Cheering for a man who slaughtered the mother of his two children and another innocent man. Wonder how they felt when the poor acquitted black man took the stand and admitted that he murdered them at his wrongful death trial which took place after the criminal trial was finished. That really speaks volumes about the students of this school. Nobody is screaming at them for being racist though go figure
The “race war” is perpetuated, in large part, by the media in its inaccurate reporting, whether by omission or by a failure to ask important questions. First, the familiar photograph of Trayvon is that of a boy, not the six foot two, 17 year old man that he has actually grown into. I suppose the innocense of a young boy’s face creates a better story line. Second, only handful of media outlets has reported details of an eyewitness who told police that the young man was the agressor, and that he has atop Mr. Zimmerman and beating his head into the sidewalk. The police report indicates when police arrived, Mr. Zimmerman had a bloody face and head, with grass stains on his shirt. This evidence supports Mr. Zimmerman’s version of the event. Third, few outlets have reported that Trayvon was a problem student, on suspension from school at the time of the incident. Few outlets have also reported that Trayvon’s father confirmed that the screaming on the 911 tape was not of his son. It was Mr. Zimmerman calling for help. And reports also surfaced late yesterday from a leaked report that the eyewitness confirmed Mr. Zimmerman was screaming for help. The picture that emerges from these details is radically different than portrayed by most news organizations from day one. Also, it is also known now that it was prosecutors who told police they had insufficient evidence to arrest Mr. Zimmerman. Who has reported on that detail? Doesn’t that fact interfere with the media’s portrayal of the police chief being bigoted? These details appear to support Mr. Zimmerman’s claim that he acted in self defense. This has nothing to do with the stand-your-ground law. A person has the right to use deadly force in circumstances where there is an immediate risk of serious bodily injury or death inflicted upon them and retreat is not available. It’s kind of hard to retreat when you are held to the ground. Even in Maine, when self defense is asserted at trial, the State must overcome that defense beyond a reasonable doubt. Much of the public “unrest” would have been averted if these facts were reported rather than just publishing that a boy with a hoodie and skittles was brutally shot.
The essay is about how Zimmerman called the police and reported suspicious activity based purely on skin color and a hoodie. Nice diversion, though. Thanks.
But the entire issue would not have garnered a single ounce of interest until the circumstances were skewed by media bias.
It’s always the media’s fault. Always someone else to blame. Just like Zimmerman. The kid was wearing a hoodie and he attacked me! Great excuse for murder.
Ah…. and you would do what if your head was being beaten against the sidewalk by a six foot two 17 year old football player with no one running to help? Say “if you don’t mind, please stop!” Reality check time.
That never happened. Stop making up lies and presenting them as fact. Trayvon was stalked and assaulted by Zimmerman, not vice versa.
He might have been 6’2 but he only weighed 140 lbs and Zimmerman 250 lbs
Can you support the assertion that Martin was 6′ 2″ but only weighed 140 lbs? He would have to be very thin.
Even then, weight alone has nothing to do with propensity for violence and little connection with how much physical damage he could do to another person. Especially is he used the element of surprise when initiating an assault.
Did Zimmerman call the police because Martin was black or did he call the police to report what he thought was Martin’s suspicious activity and tell the police Martin was black as a matter of description?
Are we over thinking this? Why does it have to be about race? I think we should start from the simplest explanation and work forward. Seems to me Zimmerman has a Batman complex, minus the cool toys and skills…
out to buy skittles at 3am in a gated community where the kid did not live.
It happened in the afternoon, broad daylight, not at 3 am.
If Trayvon had been white, his murdered would have been in jail minutes after his death. We all know this. Don’t try to fool yourself into thinking otherwise.
Here is a true example of racism: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/10000-bounty-capture-george-zimmerman
the color of ones skin affects me zero,the color of a persons heart affects me much.
you’re without love and compassion, this will be your demise, think your smart, think your strong, your weak and feeble hiding behind hate and ignorance.
Welcome to the plutarchy that is our US political system in the 21st century. Good essay.
I found this article to be racist against white people.
It’s not racist to point out or attempt to discuss racism.
Apparently it is – at least when you do it. The problem with trying to discuss racism today is that the Left insists that all racism is white-on-black, when the facts of the matter argue otherwise. MOST of the recent violent racial incidents have been black-on-white incidents, and when they surface, it is common to hear, “Oh, this is an isolated incident, oh, that’s just kids being kids, oh, that’s just high spirits… ” To hear your side tell it, there is no such thing as flash mobs robbing stores, or groups of “teens” playing King Knockout, or of blacks doing anything remotely ‘racial’. Even when the Press is complicit in attempting to hide or obfuscate the facts, enough detail eventually emerges for people to be able to see that “The Narrative”, as presently expressed by the politically correct, multiculturally-inclined media has little resemblance to the facts on the ground.
Multiculturally-inclined? What the hell are you talking about? So now it’s bad to have diverse representation in the media?
No, that is not what he/she said. “multiculturally-inclined” reads (to me) that the point of view of the media outlets is that multiculturalism is preferable to a homogeneous society. There is plenty of literature around to suggest the opposite may be true. Of course we cannot discuss that aspect of recent events. I grew up in a New York which had German neighborhoods, Jewish neighborhoods, Norwegian Neighborhoods, African neighborhoods, etc. There was no law which mandated people live like this, but it was their preference. People, when left to their own choices, tend to live with others like themselves.
I suppose that is racism. If so than humanity is inherently racist because once upon a time all the Chinese lived in China, all the Japanese lived in Japan, and all the Egyptians lived in Egypt. These folks built very successful civilizations without multiculturalism.
One question I keep asking myself: Why are all cultures important and deserving of protection EXCEPT the one that until recentlydefined The USA
Yes, that’s what he/she did say. Unless you’re trying to imply that the “mainstream media” is actively pushing integration. Look, all sorts of people watch the news and all sorts of people live in this country — it IS important to present multiple points of view. Multiculturalism isn’t a bad thing. The difference between the USA and those examples you’ve cited are that we’re a nation of immigrants and we ALWAYS have been. There is also a massive difference between having unjust laws that systematically oppress groups of cultures/peoples (like in our past) and simply having one group that “defines” the country (like say China).
Multiculturalism as it is supported by progressives and the mainstream media in this country has little to do with integration. It is much closer to Balkan-ism where various segments of society are actively encouraged to maintain distinct ethnic differences. History has shown this to be a very bad thing.
So what are you getting at with this? Trayvon wouldn’t have been dead had he assimilated more or had be segregated?
Further, I don’t think your ridiculous Balkan-ism claims have any root in reality whatsoever. Is this more of that pathetic “war on Christmas” etc. kind of imaginary things?
Perhaps instead of Balkan-ism I should use the term tribalism and you might get it. Take a look at Africa, the middle east, history in general, and see how many conflicts and wars are fought over differences. Anything that encourages people to separate into different ethnic groups and to maintain distinct ethnic and cultural differences is destructive of the society as a whole.
As for Martin. I will say that in this country it has been advantageous for certain political leaders to promote ethnic conflict. Progressives in general, and most in the media fall into this group, promote multiculturalism for idealistic reasons with little connection to reality. Young black men, and women to a slightly lesser degree, have been allowed and even encouraged to adopt a particular destructive sub culture. A sub-culture that idolizes and encourages drug use, violence, lack of respect or responsibility, sexual promiscuity, treatment of women as sex objects, crime, and overt racism. Did Martin buy into this culture and was it a factor in events of that night? I do not know for a fact. But looking as his tweets and history that is coming to light I suspect he might have.
It is time for society as a whole, and the black community in particular, to renounce this sub-culture and declare it as socially unacceptable.
You are SO right.
Yes. My problem with Multiculturalism is when the Progressives attempt to tell us that “All cultures are equally valid and worthy of admiration.” Bushwah. I personally have a REAL problem with certain aspects of Islam, whereby women are the property of their menfolk, and it is okay to kill your sister or niece or aunt if you suspect she may be bringing ‘dishonor’ upon the family or clan. Or ignorant beliefs such as in female genital mutilation. Did you know that over 100,000,000 (one hundred million) women have been so maimed? Nice, huh. This is a little more than an insignificant fringe movement. I also object to the balkanizing effects of multilingual education and the practice of printing ballots and conducting official business in 40 languages. America has survived and prospered as a nation of immigrants by assimilating them and uniting them in one ethos. Where we are headed today is anyone’s guess, but I don’t think it is going to be BETTER than the way we USED to do business.
Peace to Trayvon and his parents. This NRA/ALEC abomination is only one more example of legislation be foisted on us by corporate interests. From everything I’ve read no voters in any of the states that this legislation was passed ask for it to be implemented.
Though the real story of what happened is still being discovered, this child regardless of what he did didn’t deserve to be shot to death by Zimmerman, who is a known criminal. While the right try to frame this as a race issue, scratch the surface and you will discover it is another failure of government passing pressure cooked legislation that has only one purpose …. gun sales.
In 1974 a unarmed, white 13 year old foster child was killed by the police in Massachusetts.
No one cared, no one remembers. The story barely made the back pages of the Boston Globe.
The more I read about this the more it reminds me about the Duke Lacrosse team charges.
Lots of good money to be made by a media bent on churning race problems.
I thought Zimmerman was innocent until proven guilty? Isn’t a conviction supposed to be beyond a reasonable doubt? Seems to me like there is justification to acquit Zimmerman on those grounds. Unless someone has evidence to the contrary? Which they don’t. (so far)
Even considering he was probably an over zealous neighborhood watch vigilante, I doubt he would have shot Trayvon without some kind of a provocation that extended beyond profiling the kid’s race. Afterall…it’s Florida…not Maine. The city of Sanford, FL is 30% black, which is about double the state. Plus the “gated” community had several black families living in it. Unless Zimmerman has some sort of history we don’t know about, why is everyone jumping on the “he’s a racist” bandwagon.
Even if Zimmerman is lying, and he followed and confronted Trayvon, to get into a physical altercation and then open fire with intent to kill him without first disclosing who he was and requesting identification from Trayvon seems like an awfully big step without evidence. Clearly there was a struggle but who initiated it is at this point pure speculation and has absolutely nothing to do with race. (Caveat: Can it be proven Zimmerman had intent to commit a hate crime when approaching Trayvon? -Not unless there is some prior record of it or a confession) Point is….here we go again…..no one will probably ever know exactly what happened. Which is why we have a law enforcement and legal system instead of angry mobs with torches and pitchforks. If the jury pool is half as charged as this message board, another POTENTIALLY innocent but stupid man is headed to jail.
Trayvon Martin’s death was a great tragedy that brings sadness to all of us. Our hearts go out to his family, friends, and community.
It is a great shame that some are using this tragedy to further their political ends. Indeed, Paul Krugman describes advancing his political goals as the “silver lining to Trayvon Martin’s killing.” That is as callous as it is cruel, and it is also incorrect. Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law was the basis for the American Legislative Exchange Council’s model legislation, not the other way around. Moreover, it is unclear whether that law could apply to this case at all. “Stand Your Ground” or the “Castle Doctrine” is designed to protect people who defend themselves from imminent death and great bodily harm. It does not allow you to pursue another person. It does not allow you to seek confrontation. It does not allow you to attack someone who does not pose an imminent threat. What it does is allow you to defend yourself and your family from immediate and real danger.
In the end, we will always respect people who disagree with us in matters of policy, but it is simply wrong to try to score political points by taking advantage of a great tragedy like Trayvon’s death.
Hmm..does anyone remember those 3 rich white
Duke lacrosse players? The same ones who were
“convicted” by the media, Jesse, Al, the black panthers
and even the law down there for rapeing a prositute?
Jesse and the panthers were running right down to demand
justice and console the poor gals. Has anyone seen ANYONE
ever apologize to these 3 persons and their families for what
they were put through? Wasn’t that racism at it’s finest too?
A person was killed and until the facts and all the facts are in
anyone crying racism is just another racist themself. The media
as the NYT and others are fueling this. Now WHY would a major
news outlet designate someone as a WHITE HISPANIC? Would
they ever call Obama a WHITE AFRICAN AMERICAN? Just because
the police didn’t immediately arrest this guy doesn’t mean he will
go scott free. In this state alone we have a baby missing and no arrest.
A drug dealer from Fl was killed and no one was immediately arrested,
another shooting in Lamoine and no arrests yet. This isn’t unusual anywhere.
Let the facts come out THEN arrest someone. If the guy is guilty of a wanton
killing…hang him. But stop the nonsense and using the race card like it
is used for everything else until it IS a racial issue. For the race baiters,
does this mean the panthers are going to wage war on Hispanics? OR whitey?
There have been scads of other cases brought forward. Examples of white intolerance that turned out to be purely fiction. In many cases, the black “victims” orchestrated the “evidence” totally on their own. The press is quick to jump on the bandwagon, and slow to get off it. And the apologies just never seem to be as loud as the accusations. While I’m on the subject, does anyone remember the name of Tawana Brawley? That was a totally bogus case of racially motivated hate crime and rape that turned out to be all fiction. Our mutual good friend, Al Sharpton, was right in the middle of that case, and had lots of unpleasant things to say. You know, to my knowledge, he has never apologized for that. Neither has he apologized for his part in the Crown Heights Riot, or other incidents. When the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson appear, you want to keep one hand on your wallet, and be ready to discount everything they say.
Why aren’t Jackson and Sharpton talking about the two black kids who set that 13 year old white boy on fire in Kansas City?
How many black kids were shot and killed in America just today? Where’s the outrage on all of those? Let’s be honest here, If Trayvon Martin had been white (or any ethnicity but black), does anybody really think Al Sharpton would be down there? Does anyone think that the Black Panther’s would be putting bounty’s on anyone’s head?
“How many black kids were shot and killed in America just today?” That’s part 1 of a major question. “How many of those black kids were shot by OTHER BLACK KIDS?” That’s part 2. The answer is: way over 95% of black shooting victims are shot by other blacks. Look it up.
So if it is the media’s fault, as many are saying, then explain why right wing hacks and whacks like Michelle Malkin are posting false info on their websites trying to paint Zimmerman, the white son of a former judge, as the victim??????? Republicans wonder why blacks do not vote for them, republicans are very stupid aren’t they. ROFL! One can’t make this stuff up.
As Zimmerman has been described as a “white hispanic” in most media reports and since our president thinks that Trayvon could be his son, then we all should identify him as our “white African” president !
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/07/harvard.html
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-23/news/17928870_1_gates-cambridge-police-department-james-crowley
Actually, no, there isn’t – the new one are just like the old ones. Crooks.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/27/new-black-panther-party-leader-arrested-for-possession-firearm-after-issuing/
They’re not the same group.