Grateful for support
Thank you for your March 22 editorial, “Understanding Jackson Lab’s move to Ellsworth is critical to economic development.” On behalf of The Jackson Laboratory, I would also like to thank the municipal officials in Ellsworth, local and state economic development agencies, Maine legislators, the LePage administration and community members throughout the state for the very enthusiastic support of our plan to purchase the former Lowe’s store in Ellsworth.
We will work with city officials to finalize the necessary zoning changes, and we appreciate the collaborative spirit with which they have approached this opportunity.
We look forward to continued growth in Bar Harbor and Ellsworth.
For more than a decade, Maine state bond funds have helped build the research and development capacity of Maine’s nonprofit research laboratories, strengthened the state’s biomedical industries and expanded the state’s technology employment base. The Jackson Laboratory has been a beneficiary of these state investments, and we are grateful to Maine citizens for their generosity and to Maine policymakers for their vision.
While many states are cutting R&D funding, other states are maintaining or increasing their commitment to research. We believe that steady, predictable investment in the state’s research sector is the only way to ensure the long-term growth and success of an innovation economy in Maine. We think that future investments in Maine’s technology sectors will continue to provide taxpayers with a positive return on investment, an improved state economy and, eventually, a path to prosperity.
Michael E. Hyde
Vice President for Advancement and External Relations
The Jackson Laboratory
Natives need truth
Passover means freedom, Easter means salvation and spring means renewal. As Mainers experience this special time of year, we rejoice in beginning anew. We enjoy many freedoms, voice our opinions and are both seen and heard. Yet, a group remains largely invisible and silent here in Maine — the Wabanaki.
As I learn of the native children who were taken from their tribal homes, placed in U.S. residential schools, then in misguided adoption programs, and recently in Maine foster care, I am saddened by the effects that still encumber those adults today.
Because of U.S. and Maine law, indigenous people are deprived of rejoicing for new beginnings. Because of dominant society’s policies, some natives still cannot speak of their “taking,” which sometimes placed them in physical, psychological and spiritual abuse. Silent and traumatized, some natives still tremble when driving the same road that led to their captivity — ripped from their culture — to “save the child and kill the Indian.”
Because of our historical amnesia, the Wabanaki ask our state to awaken and uncover the truth of a foster care system that has affected the Maliseet, Micmac, Passamaquoddy and Penobscot. The tribes deserve a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to move forward and prevent the taking from ever happening again.
As we celebrate our freedoms — personal, community, country — let us not forget the indigenous peoples who like the Jewish slaves of Pharaoh’s day are asking, “Let my people go.”
Debby Messer
Bar Harbor
Of language and light
I’d like to respond to Emily Burnham’s March 27 article on the Penobscot Theatre’s premiere production of INK. Writing of playwright Alice Van Buren’s dawning awareness of New England Native cultures, Burnham states “The Native Americans of southern New England may have been wiped out 300 years ago, but their words and history remained — even in something as simple as a street sign.”
In fact, Narragansett, Nipmuc and Wampanoag people have survived despite concerted effort by colonists to wipe them out following King Philip’s War. In fact, the MacArthur Foundation has recognized the language revitalization efforts by Wampanoag linguist, Jessie Little Doe Baird, with a three-year “genius” grant in support of her work.
Bari Newport, artistic director of Penobscot Theatre, and the production’s director, Katharine Kilburn, consulted with staff of the Wampanoag Language Reclamation Project to make decisions on how to deal appropriately with aspects of Wampanoag language and culture in the production. They are to be commended for taking this collaborative step.
In the context of the INK performances, Penobscot Theatre is providing opportunities for audiences to consider their connection with Maine native people, and to interact with Penobscot spoken-word artist Nick Bear and Penobscot Nation tribal historian, James Francis. The next not-so-big step will be the production in our local mainstream theater of plays by Native American playwrights — even of Wabanaki playwrights of our region.
Maybe light is dawning in the dawnland!
Margo Lukens
Director of Academic Programs in Innovation Engineering
University of Maine
Let Canadians build it
I find it hard to believe that our governor and Legislature are even considering an east-west highway. Our current roads are in such a state of disrepair and $300,000 would go a long way to help repair so much of the damage already evident. If the Canadians want so much to have this highway through Maine let them build it.
Morris Berry
St. George
More scandal?
Re: the Maine DOT’s Islesboro “spoof” ad recently published in the BDN: Is this what we the taxpayers are paying for? It’s time for an investigation and audit of the Maine DOT. Could this be another Maine Turnpike Authority scandal or similar to the controversy surrounding the Maine Housing Authority?
Inquiring taxpayers want to know!
Ed Kokoszka
Bangor
Hope in an awakening
Rev. Roger E. Tracy’s Op-Ed column (“When God was in school and state,” BDN, March 28) was well-balancing of Shawn Faircloth’s earlier Op-Ed column heralding the separation of church and state, and reminds us all of the need and power of some spiritual authority in our public as well as private lives.
Unfortunately, civilization does not march backward to the same good, old days of prayer and Bible reading in the formative years in school. The on-rushing tide of immigrating religions and philosophies via electronic media (including TV’s long-thought corrupting influence on children and adults) cannot be resisted, let alone turned back.
So what hope have we of re-establishing spiritual authority in societal law and order? Organized religion has failed to do so all around the world.
Can we hope for some external force such as extraterrestrials or Jesus’ descent from “the clouds of heaven with power and great glory?” We have waited long enough for those quick, simple, hopeful solutions to do it for us.
Maybe the solution is to stop hoping for mythical, external solutions and for all of us to point to each other’s inner evolution of conscience (involution) collectively, and to find some hope in our great successes in greatly reducing racism, communism, dictatorships, public health ignorance and neglect, cruelty to animals and environments, etc.
There is hope in our mass awakening of conscience.
Beverly Scully
Westfield



What exactly is the research that Jackson Lab is now doing? Embryonic stem cell research, with the aborted babies being those whose bodies are used?
I’m betting if you or someone you love dearly gets a disease, the cure for which came from research done at Jackson Lab, you would not get up on your high moral horse and decline the cure. You would accept that the life you love is more valuable than the supposed “immorality” of the research. All things are relative.
Instead of typing your questions here, why don’t you pick up a phone and call Jackson Lab and ask them.
You have no idea do you. As another letter said, research before sounding off.
Last I knew Jackson lab is known for mice research, or specifically providing labaratory rats that have Human characteristics like our immune system. Not anything to do with stem cell research.
You’re not serious, are you?
Beverly your “solution” has been tried and is exactly what has us in this mess. You can’t cure diarrhea by adding toilets.
Oh, yes, you can cure diarrhea by installing toilets. Diarrhea is a disease spread by lack of sanitary facilities, so something practical and sensible like increasing the number of toilets contains the problem and keeps it from getting worse.
What is your solution: sit on the sidelines criticizing sick people because they aren’t orking and worshiping the right god in the right way?
I believe Ms Scully’s approach is more proactive and efficient and will accomplish more than yours.
You can not cure diarrhea by adding more toilets. You may be able to stop the spread but not cure it.
That being said, diarrhea is not a disease to be cured, it is a symptom of a disease that needs to be cured.
Very few cases of diarrhea in this country are caused by poor sanitary facilities, worldwide yes, but suppling large quantities of toilets without the infrastructure to use them would be worthless.
Pay attention, Larry. We aren’t really talking about diseases or symptoms. Read Ms. Scully’s article again. And yes everybody knows diarrhea is a symptom of all sorts of diseases that have their origin in unsanitary conditions. So, yes, again, you can get rid of the symptom by improving sanitary facilities.
BEVERLY,
I almost made it today without responding, but then I read your letter. Like it or not the God I serve is coming back to claim his sovereignty. All events in the universe are under the control of the God I serve. Though he allows us to have free will in all our decisions, there are severe consequences of turning our backs on God and thinking we ourselves in a collaborative effort have the answer to the worlds problems. The earth was formed by God, and he alone will take it away.. The end of our time approaches as a direct result of what you advocate in your letter. You should be more careful about what you wish for.
LOL the way you write it Amcon , it sounds like you have exclusive rights to a god and his purpose is to make all your dire predictions come true. LOL
Amcon is one of those who follows a foreign born (ie. non American) brown skinned, long haired street wanderer who fought the authorities while giving away everything for free to the poor, including health care. Ah ha, amcon must be a democrat.
That is one of the best replies to IGCON that I have ever read!
He does not have a birth certificate either.
give it a rest
Tres droll, Christ gave everything of his to the poor. He (she?) did not demand Caesar’s money be used to help the poor. The help for the poor was to be voluntary and personal and not forced and collective.
Amcon is correct when he says, ”
The end of our time approaches….”.
As everyone who reads these boards knows Amcon is the only one who is all knowing. It is his God, his Religion, his brand of Politics, his way of Thinking that should be the standard the rest of the World is judged by. Amcon can tell YOU which God to worship, which church YOU should attend, how YOU should live YOUR life, who YOU should marry and what YOU should think. Amcon is very good at telling YOU how YOU should vote, what schools YOUR children should attend and just about everything else that goes along with living YOUR life. The Amcons of this world are really big in telling all of us how they are “REAL PATRIOTS” or “REAL AMERICANS”, they tell us how they love the United States Constitution, yet they will deny equal rights to people who do not share their flawed ideology. The Amcons of this world claim to love America, but can’t stand Americans who do not think the way they do. They claim to detest class warfare, but yet are the first to put down the less fortunate among us. They speak of their tax dollar as if they were the only ones paying taxes. Just when was it that the US Tax Code was amended to make only conservatives liable to pay taxes?
Yes Amcon and the rest of the Amcons of this world the end of your time is approaching. Hopefully then we will be able to truly understand the meaning of Liberty and Justice for ALL.
Please define “God”. Now, if you had been raised in ancient Greece, “God” would be Zeus. If in ancient Scandinavia, Thor. If in ancient Africa, the Juju “God.” What about Buddah? What about the Native American “Great Spirit”? What about Allah? How can you prove that your “God” is the real one, or even exists at all? How can you prove that you are not hallucinating, as it seems you well may be? And tell me, does your “God” think as you do? Does he bash the poor, worship at the alter of the rich, and listen to the hatefilled garbage puked out by heartless propaganda mongers on FAKE News and the likes of utter cretins such as Rush Limpmind? Sorry, but you can keep your hypocrisy and dark-age mythologies. I’m satisfied with the real world, science, humanity, reasoned thought, evidence, intelligence, critical thinking, and, above all, sanity. Try it sometime. You just might like it.
You started off well, and then became combative and derogatory of someone’s beliefs.
Then you claimed that your God, the “real world, science, humanity, reasoned thought, evidence, intelligence, critical thinking, and, above all, sanity” was the only true God.
By the way the last half of your post shows almost none of the”real world, science, humanity, reasoned thought, evidence, intelligence, critical thinking, and, above all, sanity” of your God, it vwas just a hate filled diatribe of …
If “All events in the universe are under the control” of your “god”, then it’s time to register a complaint, because he’s made a real mucked-up mess of it.
I applaud you for having the strength to keep replying/ defending. After years of reading these blogs I have given up and am just sickened by what I read on most days. It’s not that they have cracked my faith, it will take more than a bunch of atheists to do that- I am just tired of their same old boring retorts. It hurts the heart. Keep it up, you are appreciated.
Deblogger: It is not just atheists that comment negatively. It’s people that believe in
an inclusive and intelligent god that object to Amcon’s depressing enthusiasm for his judgmental and punishing god. In a very real sense Amcon sees himself as his god’s co-equal sharing in condemning those that the two of them have determined to be unworthy.
Thanks, and I agree it sometimes gets frustrating. On most subjects a difference of opinion is a wonderful thing, but to reject the God of all creation is another. How anyone can look at creation and have no understanding of God is beyond my understanding.
How anyone can expect an adult to believe in an angry supernatural sky-fairy who “created everything” is like expecting them to believe in a tooth fairy.
Did not “your savior” tell you to pray personally to god, and not go out in public to proclaim your faith?
You guys and gals can’t even obey your own rules.
How can we look at the universe and not believe in God? Simple: we’re not superstitious, that’s why.
I’m tired of the same old xtian proselytizing. I’m tired of evangelists seeking to “convert” those who choose another way. I am tired of people telling me about their “hurts” while ignoring COMPLETELY the feelings of those who do not march to their personal drummer.
If there is truly just one God, aren’t those that believe in god praying to the same being?
If God is believed in, does he care what he is called?
Almost every society has a form of supreme being, as long as that being is used to the betterment of society, should we not all rejoyce in the diversity of God.
Sorry, I’ve seen your words on this board. I want nothing to do with your God.
I choose to believe there is no God. I have absolutely NO interest in convincing you to believe as I do. How about the same respect from your side.
msallyjones: you said it–“the immorality of the research,” so you must agree that embryonic stem cell research on aborted babies is immoral. Adult stem cells from one’s own body have been known to produce the healing effect in many people, but not so those stem cells from embryos.
My belief that God sent His Son Jesus to die on the cross to save me from my sins is personal to me, not a high horse of anything. I simply see that too many are sitting on their high horses, criticizing any conservative and Christian view of life, politics, etc.
When religion interferes with reasonable, rational, ethical research I object. Nobody is criticizing your beliefs. You are free to believe what you like. However it is arrogant to impose your beliefs on scientific research. That is what is being criticized.
Soooo, if something is done in the name of “science” it becomes “reasonable, rational, ethical “?
The research done in the past such as not treating syphilus, cooling live humans to determine the survival of humans in cold water, testing weapons on live people to determine the effectiveness of a weapon … These and far more things were done in the name of “reasonable, rational, ethical research”.
Personally, I think not.
Pay attention, Larry. You have again mis-read and misinterpreted a comment. The examples you give are not ethical.
Not treating Syphilus was done on non-whites by racist bureaucrats and not by scientists, the other two examples you quote were done by Nazi scientists.
The world scientific community did not use the results provided by the Nazi’s ( and still don’t) and do not consider any of the Nazi experiments to be valid, ethical or moral scientific research. The was a very big debate after WWII about the “scientific” research done by the Nazi’s and the scientific world was disgusted by what had been done. It is one of the main reasons that animal trials are still in use today.
I would use only stem cells from aborted Zygotes, and in this society the ruling has it that that is my choice… Get over it!
Michael Hyde; good letter.
Debby Messer, what exactly do you want? As far as I know none of the practices that you are writing about are still being practiced. It’s terrible that they happened. It’s terrible that people were enslaved. It’s terrible that people were starved to death in Ireland. It’s terrible what happened to the millions that died in the concentration camps of WWII. All throughout history people have been victimized. We can’t go back and undo it. Most of what has happened is well documented and should be remembered. The best way to remember these attrocities is to insure that they don’t happen again to anyone anywhere in the world.
Other than that, I don’t believe there is anything that can be done.
I am tired of hearing of people who want something because their forefathers were abused or shortchanged in some way. Most of us whose immigrant relatives came to America were crossed in one way or the other. Indentured servants, etc…..we are not whining for anything…go out and make your own way. The world does not owe you a living.
The “People” were not immigrants. Custer had it coming and I will not give it a rest.
The “people” are just as much immigrants as anyone else who came here. It just depends on how far back in history that you wish to look. Maybe Custer did have it coming, but look at a little more history and how did that work out?
The GOVERNMENT OF THE USA is responsible solely for the conditions among the Native peoples. not Germans, Irish, or people who chose to immigrate to America due to hard times at home. This was home to the people we are discussing, and those of us “from away” stole it.
Many of these people are still suffering because of what our ancestors did to theirs – and in many cases, we’re actually reaping the benefits.
Our forefathers took thousands of thriving Native American societies and crushed them into the dust, and then treated the survivors like subhuman vermin. Native communities are still suffering from the genocide the United States and other European powers inflicted on the decades ago, while the descendants of those who slaughtered them are living well on land stolen from them.
Our society owes them for the crimes committed against them in the past. It’s a simple matter of justice and injustice.
I don’t know how old you are, I’m pushing 70. I was raised up to understand that nobody owes me a living. Now the huge majority of the attrocities that were done to the native americans was done in the 19th and very early 20th century. In other words over a hundred years ago. Neither I nor my ancestors, to my knowlege have committed any attrocities against any group of people. There fore I don’t feel it my responsibility to support people who weren’t even born when these attrocities took place. I don’t feel that they owe me anything either.
You’re really missing the point here. Just because the people who committed genocide against the Indians weren’t your direct ancestors doesn’t mean that they weren’t your forefathers, and it certainly doesn’t mean that you don’t benefit from their plundering.
I don’t know exactly what needs to be done to undo the injustice that Native Americans still suffer today, but denying that they have extremely legitimate complaints just perpetrates the injustice.
So, by your reasoning, being of Irish decent, I should be writing letters to the editor in the London Times or some other British Paper and demanding reperations for the potato famin. The starvation of millions of Irish people by the greedy English. The attempt by the british to crush my heritage and religious freedom. My decendants for gernerations forward can sit on their duffs and repeat the same plea for reperations and do nothing to improve the situation they live in and the world they live in. Hell we can go all the way back to the Pharos of Egypt or even further.
I personally don’t feel sorry for any group of people who are not willing to do for themselves. Not all native americans are helpless. There are plenty of them who are out in the work force supporting themselves and their families. There are plenty of them who study and get degrees in college. Who go on to higher things in life. They may not be famous or make the news but these people who have retained enough pride in themselves to support themselves, without handouts, are the real heros of any society.
sorry, don’t buy your explanation Ben. Indians have been reaping from the Feds for years, and many times, their own leaders helped themselves. Indians go to college for free in their states, get assistance in many other areas. My immigrant ancestors were fishermen who worked their butts off and came to this country about 100 years ago. One drowned at sea…should we be entitled to something because of that? We are not responsible for what went on way back when…..when you look at statistics, many of these Indians just use the system, are alcoholics and on assistance……
Native children are still being placed in foster homes where their culture is ignored. Children are still living in poverty on reservations in the USA.
Before you suggest NOTHING can be done, take a ride out to Pine Ridge Reservation (in South Dakota) and look around. When you return tell me “there is nothing that can be done.
Why are these children being placed in foster care? For that matter why are any children being placed in foster care?
I hate to sound uncaring about anyones children but if it’s so important that they not be taken away from their culture. Don’t you think it would behove the natives of that reservation to do something to insure their children aren’t taken off the reservation?
At some point in time, people of whatever culture have to stand up on their own two feet and take responsibility for their life. From what I understand North Dakota is just up the road from S. Dakota. There are lots of jobs available for those willing to work.
But your post still doesn’t answer my main question. What exactly is it that will satisfy or appease what the native Americans want? Other than every non-native packing up and leaving.
Non natives packing up and leaving would be good, if not realistic. The “culture of North and South Dakota is absolutely steeped in hatred for the indigenous people. I have lived in Mississippi, and Rapid City South Dakota is the most racist city I have ever seen.
I would suggest that for a start the US government could return the Black Hills to the Sioux because this parcel is theirs by treaty. which we broke. Ditto the Kinsuia dam area in Pennsylvania.
Our government made deals with the native people. Move here and you can have that land “As long as the Grass grows and the rivers flow” Then some nefarious character would find oil, silver, or Gold and the government would unilaterally amend the treaty. The Indians were pushed on to land in Oklahoma, then pushed off it. They were given South Florida which was a sweltering swamp, then air conditioning was invented, and we took it back.
Usually I agree with you about the whining masses, BUT these folks have a serious gripe. We made agreements on paper. Contracts which we broke. It is time to pay what we owe, or we become the whining masses telling people why we can not pay what we justly owe.
Good, set a figure. As if money will change anything. There needs to be an end game.
I set the figure Give back the Black Hills, the State of Oklahoma, The Kinsuia area of Pennsylvania and South Florida. All areas which our government treatied to the native people and then reneged. This way we put to rest the big theft of the entire country, and only deal with thefts that occurred AFTER our government decided what the native people should have and where they should be forced to live.
You know that isn’t going to happen. I can address your last sentence though. I have driven through many reservations and have yet to see armed guards barring the exits. Is there anyone that you know of or any law on the books that bars anyone from any reservation from moving or gaining employment off the reservation?
What it appears to be is the symptom of young society from all walks of life. There are a tremendous number who seem to have got the feeling that just because they were born that the world owes them a living.
Do you have any answers that might awaken young society to the fact that nobody owes them? Or do you buy into the argument that because your great grandparents were wronged that eveyone owes you.
Beverly Scully,
Organized religion is a set of rules to live by, but Jesus IS the way, the truth, and the life.
Bla, bla, bla…… Got proof?
Yes, I do… But like beauty, proof is in the eye of the beholder.
All I have to say about it, is that the universe has been proven (as far as anyone knows) to be expanding from a single point in space-time. Calculations going backward to this point in space-time makes all known laws of phsyics break down into gibberish.
We don’t know for sure what is beyond that. It really does come down to choice. But I think that if matter is equal to energy, and that it can neither be created or destroyed, and all known matter/energy is expanding from a single point in space-time. The only logical conclusion is that something created it all, and from that single point onward we exist… From nothing!? What is powerful enough to create something that can’t be created or destroyed?
But some scientists are trying to explain even that whole mess in as a complicated manner as possible. Isn’t the simplest answer usually the correct one? Isn’t “God” the simplest answer possible? It is, at the very least, a possibility.
And so, that possilibity of the universe and all its contents being a created thing, has a possibility of a creator of some kind. So don’t entirely dismiss the notion! And even if you want to say “well, that still doesn’t prove Jesus” I am fine with that. At least we’re getting somewhere. But just remember, even if Jesus was a ficticious person, the things that were written of him were fantastic. Such a wonderful person, killed at such an early age, trying to do nothing but good things!
But all that may not be enough proof for you, and I’m sorry.
We are happy that you have found your true way. We would be happier if you would acknowledge the validity of the true way of others.
They can’t all be “true” ways. Something is false.
” $300,000 would go a long way to help repair so much of the damage already evident”.
Uhhh, that wouldn’t get the pothotles fixed from Brewer to Sounth Brewer. 300k is nothing.
$300K would rebuild less than 1/3 mile of that street.
Morris Berry
Canadians know a good investment when they see one.
They will probably be some of the major PRIVATE INVESTORS in this worthwhile project.
Michael E. Hyde
I do not trust you or the business you represent.
Debby Messer
I agree 100% What the government did to native people here, at Pine Ridge, at Fort Defiance, and in Hogansburg is beyond reprehensible.Morris Berry
I agree 100% Not ONE public dime for a private road (which will be in fact funded up to 49% with public (read taxpayers) money.
Ed Kokoszka
Didn’t read about that, but if it smells I’m for checking it out.
Beverly ScullyYour opinion is deserving of respect. I do not share it.
?? What exactly don’t you trust about Jackson? It’s like saying you don’t trust Stanford or UMO…
You are kidding….right?
Not really: what don’t you “trust”? It’s not clear what you are referring to.