HOULTON, Maine — Jurors who last week determined that Thayne Ormsby killed two men and a 10-year-old boy nearly two years ago in Amity will spend Tuesday in Aroostook County Superior Court deciding whether he was sane enough to know what he was doing at the time. A decision on the insanity plea, which increasingly has been used by suspects as a defense in the past few years, will determine whether Ormsby is sent to jail or a psychiatric hospital.

Thayne Ormsby, 21, was found guilty by a jury of seven men and five women on three counts of murder and one count of arson on Friday afternoon.

Ormsby, an Ellsworth native who was living in Orient in 2010, pleaded not guilty and not guilty by reason of insanity in connection with the stabbing deaths of Jeffrey Ryan, 55, Ryan’s son Jesse, 10, and Ryan family friend Jason Dehahn, 30, all of Amity, on June 22, 2010. They were found dead about 27 hours after the killings at the Ryans’ home on U.S. Route 1, according to police. The arson charge stems from Ormsby burning the elder Ryan’s truck after the slayings.

The defendant was arrested on July 2, 2010, in Dover, N.H.

On Tuesday, the jury will hear evidence as to Ormsby’s state of mind at the time of the crime. Jurors then will be asked to determine whether Ormsby was criminally responsible for his actions.

That defense is being used more often in Maine, according to information from the state and some attorneys.

Data from the State Forensic Service in 2010 showed that since 1946, a total of 118 people had been deemed not criminally responsible by reason of insanity for crimes ranging from impersonating a public servant to murder. The State Forensic Service is an arm of the Department of Health and Human Services.

State Deputy Attorney General William Stokes, who is prosecuting the Ormsby case, would not comment on an ongoing case. But in a March 2010 Bangor Daily News article he said that not criminally responsible pleas were “very rare” before 2000, and when used were seldom successful.

Such pleas are seen more often now, however, particularly in murder cases.

Between 2000 and 2010 in Maine, for instance, 12 defendants charged with murder pleaded not criminally responsible by reason of insanity. In seven of those cases, prosecutors agreed with recommendations of state and defense psychiatrists, sending the defendants to the Riverview Psychiatric Center in Augusta rather than trial.

Juries decided only two of those 12 cases, rejecting one and deadlocking in the other case in which the defendant later pleaded guilty to manslaughter.

The director of the State Forensic Service in 2010, Dr. Ann LeBlanc, said in that same BDN article, “Our best estimate is that insanity is raised in 2 to 4 percent of cases in Maine and successful about 25 percent of the time.”

Two insanity defenses have been offered in Aroostook County since 2000, and one was successful.

Michael McDonald, who killed his father, Michael W. McDonald, in Masardis in 2004, was found not guilty by reason of insanity that same year.

The elder McDonald was found dead in his Masardis home. The state medical examiner’s office said that he died of a shotgun wound, blunt force trauma to the head and multiple stab wounds.

In 2006, Christopher Shumway, 20, was found guilty and criminally responsible for the grisly January 2005 murder of 20-year-old Erin Sperrey, his supervisor at a Caribou Tim Hortons doughnut shop.

During a jury-waived trial, Aroostook County Superior Court Justice E. Allen Hunter found Shumway guilty of murder, gross sexual assault involving Sperrey, and robbery of the restaurant. Hunter said that Shumway was not insane at the time of the death nor during his subsequent actions.

Melanie Dutra, one of Jeffrey Ryan’s daughters and Jesse Ryan’s sister, said that she never has believed that Ormsby is insane. She noted on Friday that he was well enough mentally to plan the crime and to destroy evidence. Ormsby made a list of two individuals that he wanted to kill, one of whom was Jeff Ryan. He also burned his clothes after the killings and threw the knife used in the murders into a nearby bog.

“He had enough sense to cover up the crime and to flee,” she said on Friday. “To me, those are not the actions of someone who is insane.”

To have a successful insanity plea under the law, a defendant must have documented mental health problems, prove he or she was psychotic at the time of the crime and also show that he or she was unable to determine the difference between right and wrong.

If the jury accepts Ormsby’s plea, he would be sent to the Riverview Psychiatric Center in Augusta for an undetermined amount of time. If jurors find him sane, Ormsby faces a sentence of between 25 years and life in prison on each of the murder charges. He also faces up to 30 years in prison on the arson conviction.

Judges are allowed to impose life sentences in Maine under specific circumstances. One of them is being convicted of multiple murders.

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  1. The jurors would be complete fools to agree to this insanity plea. The arson conviction proves that, IMO.

    1. Well this is Maine, so it might happen. hope not. Another reason to have the death penalty in Maine. Would anyone against the Death penalty think the same if it were one of their family members that were brutally murdered? Bet not.

  2. He stated that he killed 2 of the 3 victims because they were there and he didn’t want to get caught.  He knew he was wrong.  He is not insane, he’s a murderer.  Send him into general population with a child killer brand on his forehead.  Good luck in prison.

  3. Are they sending him to Riverside to get documented mental health records, or start them? If so, how does it prove mental health was a concern for the crime, since it is after the crime. Also, wouldn’t that mean that he had an undetected mental health issue before the crime; therefore, he would be considered a high functioning person? And, there are no services for high functioning individuals.

    I also once knew someone who considered realty perspective. Psychosis is a loss of reality, but what is a loss of reality when we all have a different perspectives as we all have different eyes?

    Though some would question anyone’s sanity after such a gruesome act, and mental diseases such as schizophrenia seem to develop near one’s sexual peak.

  4. If he had a list of people he wanted to kill, then that’s premeditated. He knew what he was doing and he knew the consequences, that’s why he tried to get rid of evidence. Someone who is insane doesn’t think THAT rationally!

  5.  Are you people attempting to prove that you are just as blood-thirsty and unconcerned with human life as Ormsby?  If so, good job.

    1. Give us a break.  This guy PLANNED to kill, and then killed additionally, including a 10 year old kid, to silence witnesses he didn’t bank on.  This guy then tried to cover it up.  He is guilty as sin and there is no excuse for this.  Please do not compare those of us who want a very tough punishment for this kind of criminal behavior to those who would perpetrate these crimes.  There are victims in the world.  And there was evil victimizers in this world.  Brutal criminals must deserve very harsh punishment.  There is no other solution for them.  None.  What if it was your ten year old son who was brutally murdered? Maybe then you attitude would be different.

      1.  Since you have no idea to whom you are talking, nor do you have any idea what my life experience entails, I will give you a stupid pass.

        Your opinion is yours, and mine is mine.  My opinion is that the “nice” people are as blood thirsty as the evil ones…given the correct circumstances.

    1. Why?  There are plenty of people who kill, just like this guy did, and are totally sane and believe it is totally justified.  They are not insane.  They, again, believe they are entirely JUSTIFIED in doing it, and some killers ENJOY it.  It is about POWER and CONTROL.  It does not mean they are insane. Are serial armed robbers who kill multiple people insane? No. They are rotten thieves who kill to get money and are just fine killing whomever they must to get the money. They plan it. And many even enjoy it. They are NOT “insane.” How about organized crime killers? Totally SANE. It is their business and murder is completely acceptable. Think about it.

      1. Have to disagree, a totally sane person doesnt think they justified in killing someone. Also serial armed robbers arent the same as murderers..Im not saying he is completely insane but has to have some screws loose, insane on some level!

        1. Insanity is loosely defined in general. The fellow on trial
          in Norway his arguments in court are text book based and are logical to many worldwide. It is evident that he has read and studied the same material taught in many of our college’s. He has just taken the knowledge and applied it differently, and as I understand his interpretation is backed by the Norwegian Penal Code. In regards to claims of his being insane he states that he is not. So the question remains is there a point of the broadly defined insanity that encompasses those who maintain knowing, intellect, and responsibility in entirety throughout and after committing a heinous crime? I myself am not sure of the answer; it would be easier if these fellows were spouting off, babbling gibberish, or drooling upon entering the media spot light. This is not just about some killers thinking they are justified in their killing. This is about killers with intelligence logically supporting why they killed.  I do believe your interpretation is correct somewhere a screw or two is loose that permitted Ormsby to take lives and the same applies to that fellow in Norway. Possibly the line defining morals and ethics has shifted, and in no doubt the intricacies of justification for both are buried within ethics and morals …without accountability for daily living beyond the law some people are like a pistol with a hair trigger. No matter if insane or not both deserve incarceration of some type, and sadly if they are turned free without any valid treatment, they will soon return back to the system after victimizing more.

    2. You would like to think that a person would have to be insane to commit such a heinous act….because normal people CANNOT fathom killing another person let alone a 10 yr old child.  But, there just are some horribly, sick, BAD individuals out there whether we want to admit that or not.  It would make you sleep better at night I suppose if you could convince yourself that anyone that would commit such an act is crazy then. Some people are twisted individuals that are total oxygen thieves. He should rot in JAIL not a padded cell!

  6. Totally premeditated.  Very well thought out generally, but did the other murders to silence witnesses he didn’t bank on at the time.  The effort to dispose of evidence was very planned and deliberate.  This was a planned act based on a logical justification in his mind, and he was entirely aware of everything and that it was very illegal and very wrong.  He is sane, and he should be put in JAIL for life.

  7. My nephew Jason was brutally murdered by Ormsby and I am against the death Penalty. Why should he get off so easily and quickly when life in prison without parole is so much better. Think about it, he has the priviledge to sit in his cell and rot and think about Jason, Jesse and Jeff every hour , every minute, every second for the rest of his pathetic life. Oh no I am glad we do not have the Death Penalty.

    1.  I am so sorry for the tragic event that this person has inflicted on your family. May they all rest in peace. I agree……he should rot in prison.

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