ROCKLAND, Maine — Finding and retaining volunteer firefighters amid increasing training requirements and a struggling economy is not a new problem, but Rockland Assistant Fire Chief Adam Miceli said the situation is the worst he has seen in his 26 years in the fire service.
The Rockland department, though it has a round-the-clock staff of full-time firefighters, relies heavily on its cadre of volunteers when something is burning. With room in the budget for 25 volunteers who are paid a nominal sum when they’re on call, training or working at a fire scene, there are only 14 signed on.
There are a lot of factors causing that, said Miceli, and none of them have easy solutions.
“These days it’s harder to kind of hook people and get them into the department,” he said. “It’s hard for someone who’s already working to come in and put in a lot of time. It just seems like it’s been more difficult over the years to get people in and give them a good spark at the beginning.”
The reasons are myriad, according to Miceli and others. Growing training prerequisites, shifting demographics that force more people to commute to their jobs — and therefore prevent them from being available to fight fires in their hometowns — and the slack economy all are working against growing the firefighter ranks.
Joe Thomas, Maine’s acting fire marshal, said he has watched the problem grow in the past 37 years of his career.
“When I was much younger, a volunteer fire department would have one evening a week for a meeting at the fire station,” he said. “The obligations that you have to put into training these days are a lot more.”
Thomas said though there are few fire chiefs in Maine who would say they have all the volunteers they need, the problem is more pronounced in rural areas where there is a smaller pool to recruit from and in coastal towns, which tend to have higher percentages of retirees and seasonal residents.
Kennebunk Fire Chief Stephen Nichols, who is president of the Maine Fire Chiefs Association, said a large part of the problem is the amount of training a person needs before he or she is qualified to actually fight a fire. A mandatory firefighter 1 and 2 certification requires 244 hours of class time, plus considerable homework, and then there are more trainings in blood-borne pathogens, handling hazardous materials, driving fire equipment and a slew of other requirements through the Maine Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Standards.
“Fire doesn’t know the difference between a volunteer, call and full-time department,” said Nichols. “You have to have the right training.”
All the necessary training can take several months — and oftentimes, said Nichols, a potential volunteer has to wait weeks or months for the next firefighting course to be offered.
“There’s a job for everyone who wants to be on the fire department, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to be inside a building fighting a fire [until they are trained],” he said. “Anyone who’s doing a job at a fire scene has to have training.”
Some of the training is expensive, and who pays for it varies on a town-by-town basis, according to Thomas and Nichols. Some departments pick up the entire cost through their municipal budgets or grants; others expect volunteers to pay up front and then be reimbursed; and in some cases, volunteers pay for the training themselves.
The coastal town of Phippsburg in Sagadahoc County faces the same challenges as any small coastal community: too many people who work out of town, or in many cases on the water, and a high percentage of retirees, said its fire chief, James Totman.
“We could use at least 10 more firefighters. It’s very bad,” said Totman. “We don’t have anyone who’s even interested in joining right now. The biggest thing is all these state mandates and all the time they want volunteers to put in. People just don’t have time … and I don’t know the answer.”
But of course there are exceptions. One of them is Lorana Pierce, who has been an emergency medical technician on Phippsburg’s rescue squad for 23 years. Pierce’s grandparents started the rescue service in Phippsburg years ago. Despite the fact she can expect little financial gain from it, Pierce is signed up for a nine-month paramedic course, followed by 150 hours of clinical training in area hospitals and with other rescue squads, which begins later this year.
“My feeling is the main reason to do it is for my town,” said Pierce, whose twin sister is also on the rescue squad. “It’s not the money I’m doing this for.”
Pierce, who makes $2 an hour for being on call, said part of the reason for taking the course now is because the training requirements are scheduled to ramp up in January 2013, which means it would take her probably two years to complete the paramedic course if she waits.
“I can’t imagine taking two years out of my life to do it,” said Pierce, who also sees a paramedic certification as a financial backup plan for her family if her husband, who is a building contractor, runs short on jobs. In that case, Pierce said she could use her certification to work per-diem for a full-time rescue squad.
Another exception to the drought of volunteers is the Searsport Fire Department, according to Capt. A.J. Koch. A few years ago, said Koch, “it was me and one other guy,” but today there are 14 volunteers on the rolls.
The key is to offer an entry-level volunteer status, he said. Rather than expect people to commit to the extensive training required and risk of being a “confined space” or hazardous materials-certified firefighter, he tells would-be volunteers that if they want to just direct traffic at a fire scene, that’s fine.
“We’ll train you to the level you want to go to,” he said.
Some volunteers want to drive the truck, some want to operate the pumps. Often, after a taste of the service, they seek more training and become more committed.
Koch, 29, began as a junior firefighter at 15. His father had been chief of the North Searsport Fire Department, which in the early 1990s was separate from the Searsport department. The junior firefighter program still helps in recruiting, he said.
Still, Koch understands the problems of maintaining a full complement of volunteers. At training sessions he hears about the recruiting struggles of some of Waldo County’s more rural departments, particularly those in the northern and western parts of the county.
Thomas, the acting fire marshal, said incentives such as this could be part of the long-term solution. Though it’s the exception and not the rule, Thomas said fire departments across Maine also are exploring and implementing nominal retirement benefits and recognition programs and working to adjust time requirements so that when personnel gather for meetings, their time is used efficiently and for multiple purposes.
Thomas said fire departments also are pooling their resources with neighboring communities when it comes to training and the purchase of equipment, and that some towns are hiring per-diem firefighters to man their stations during daytime hours.
“The point is trying to maintain protection with manpower during the most difficult time of day for most volunteers,” he said. “There are a lot of different approaches.”
The dearth of volunteers in most towns causes more problems than just emergency coverage. A town fire department’s level of training, equipment and water supply are all factors that insurance companies use to set homeowners’ insurance premiums, according to Maine Deputy of Insurance Tim Schott.
“An area with a full-time fire department will generally have a better fire protection class rating than an area served by a volunteer department, so long as there are adequate hydrants and water in the area being rated,” said Schott in a written response to questions emailed from the Bangor Daily News.
However, according to a recent report the Bureau of Insurance generated for the Maine Legislature, homeowners in the state enjoy some of the lowest insurance premiums in the nation. Maine slipped from ninth-lowest in the nation in 2007 to 11th-lowest in 2008 and 2009, which is the latest data available from report author National Association of Insurance Commissioners. In all three of those years, Maine had the lowest average premiums in New England.
Paul Leeman Jr., chief of Bristol Fire and Rescue Department in coastal Lincoln County, said the shortage of volunteers in his department likely will become worse because the average age of his firefighters is approaching 50.
“We need to take on more people and bring them up through the ranks,” he said. “There’s always a need for more and we need to bring the young ones along.”
Just then, Leeman’s pager went off, signaling that someone somewhere in Bristol was in need of emergency assistance.
“I’m sorry, but I’ve got to go,” he told a reporter before hanging up the phone.
BDN writer Tom Groening contributed to this report.



I’ve never known a small town to ask for volunteers. I live in Swanville, outside Belfast, travel routinely though Northport, Lincolnville, Camden, Rockport, Rockland, etc. I’d be happy to be a volunteer firefighter, if I ever knew where/when to sign-up and get training. Maybe they should ask?
or you could “volunteer” your services to them. they’re pretty easy to find.
MY town doesn’t even have a volunteer service (I did look once.) We are covered by Belfast for fire services. I’ll poke around.
Depending on where in Swanville you live, we could take you in Searsport.
I live along the lake, on the west side…
We’ll have to figure a way to exchange information.
Oh, I don’t think that’ll be to hard. :-)
give me a shout, I might be able to help you out.
LOL. Ya, Swanville doesn’t have a lot, but, at least you have a decent grocery store. You may be closer to either the Monroe or West Frankfort FDs. At the WFFD we’ve had/have members who lived off the Frankfort Road and Upper Oak Hill Road, as well as from Searsport and would welcome new members who are willing to respond to Frankfort or any of our local mutual aid towns, regardless of residency. You can leave us a message at 223-5004 if you’re interested or drop by our monthly meeting on 5/5 @ 4pm to talk with us.
There’s been a big sign in the front window of the Camden Fire Dept. for months now soliciting new members.
Nice! I guess I should find out where the Camden Fire Department is…
Many towns will only let residents or those living within a certain radius join. While this seems counterproductive to filling the ranks, when you consider outfitting each firefighter with gear at about $2000 and then the training costs, you see that they need to have some assurance that you’ll actually be available for fires. Given tight budgets the Fire Chief has to be wise about how he/she spends tax dollars.
Hey, I agree completely. That’s the way it was when I was a volunteer for Hampden, many moons ago (I lived in Hampden at the time.) Makes perfect sense to me. And I know my newly adopted home town of Swanville doesn’t even have a volunteer service. (Sometimes, I ask myself what Swanville DOES have, which seems to be very little…can’t even use a debit/credit machine at the town office. *sigh*)
Real Vol. Firefighters do not get paid.
After all, that is the definition of the word.
I am a volunteer and let me help you with a little math. I live 3.5 miles from the station and drive a diesel pickup. Diesel fuel is currently $4.25 a gallon. My truck gets 14 mpg. Each trip to the station and back is 7 miles or .5 gallons of fuel or $2.12. I am at the station once a week for training/meetings and respond to roughly 100 calls a year. It costs me $322.24 plus each year to “volunteer.” The only thing I ask for in return is respect from those that are served by volunters, after all, we do put or lives on the line to save yours. I have missed many meals with my family, I have missed sports events for my kids and have even left my house on Christmas morning just after sitting down to open presents because of a call.
Plis you lose pay for not going to work too . Let those people get up at 10.30 at night work at a fire till say 4.30 am go back to the station an get the truck ready to to roll agen than go to work an be tired all day long an there are companys that don’t like firemen because they lose time an wish they could firer them for not showing up for work
Hey! I love and respect what you people do! And thanks for the useless (to me) math
But asking for repayment and recognition isn’t volunteering. It has its own rewards. I didn’t realize that there was so much crap involved in being a nice citizen.
I also drive a diesel with the fuel price up there with super for our other car. But mine gets 26 mpg and is 30 years old . Where will be your Duramax be at that age? Are you driving a doolie that is only for show? Real volunteers didn’t cry about the cost where and when I grew up!
I have never asked for money or recognition. The respect I mentioned is to be appreciated for what I do.
Yes, I drive a dually but use it to tow my trailer with wheelers or my tractor on it. And no, its not a Duramax. It is a 15 y/o F350.
As far as crying, I wasn’t crying about the cost, just pointing that is costs me money to put my life on the line to save yours.
My Husband has been a “volunteer firefighter” for over 20 years. Until you’re ready to put your life on the line to save someone or their home, don’t expect people to do this job for no payment!
Most firefighters I have known don’t do it for the pay. if your husband has 20 years in, he doesn’t either. There isn’t enough compensation in the world to cover what they see or what they do.
I was a Vol. firefighter for many years and I did it for free so I know all about placing my life on the line and not getting paid for doing so.
90% of “volunteers” in Maine are actually “Paid on Call” members. The amount of pay is so little in most cases, it’s not an issue. Hopefully they cover their fuels costs and can afford a hot coffee on their way home after being up at night helping a neighbor.
I was a Volunteer Firefighter for 20 years and never received a dime! Nowdays it takes a larger commitment and more time. My hat goes off to any volunteer, ambulance or fire.
Nationwide, the old community spirit of participating in your hometown is evaporating;
I’m too busy–I want to be paid– the ‘town’ should deal with it!
Just who is the ‘town’?
The ‘town’ is who you pay your taxes too. Perhaps higher taxes would help pay for some full time guys which would eliminate the problem of under staffing.
That’s Newspeak! (and attitude) The citizens ARE the town!
I totally agree! You left out one though,”If they need help, they must be deadbeats anyway.”
I’m diffused. What are you saying to me exactly. I don’t do innuendos too well.
I was agreeing with you, but it seems that some are not willing to help their neighbors and prefer to look down their nose at those who really need help.
Th old “I got mine, you get your own” syndrome.
I tried, but agree with th article that the state requirements are pretty time consuming. As a merchant mariner I was required to take advanced fire fighting, and train weekly with SCBA’s & live hoses when aboard ship. That meant nothing to the state. Hmm, only home for 6 months of the year, 200+ hr course, Sorry rather stay married.
You said it for me shipmate, and Medical – PIC does not translate to EMT. There are plenty of mariners in these communities as well. The ones that I know that are with the VFD’s are single!
I completely agree with what you are saying. You probably have more training and experience than many volunteer firefighters yet this doesn’t transfer over to the local level. This needs to be fixed. These local departments need people like you and should take advantage of the fact that you already have the knowledge and training, which they would not have to pay for. This demonstrates how dumb the bureaucrats and government officials are in this state and country. Why wouldn’t you allow someone who is more than qualified to fight fires to work on a volunteer basis for their community?? As Casey207 replied, we have plenty of mariners in this area, why not take advantage of this fact??
You are correct. The bureaucratic mentality is so focused on one object that it will not or cannot see the value of parallel training. Many times it is not the state bureaucracy but the say in which a specific law is written. I have argued over many instances where superior training is not recognized but accepted training is. ie A University degree is not recognized as being superior to a simple 8 or 16 hour informal class sponsored by an “approved” state vendor. A licensed commercial diver is not recognized as someone who has completed an SCBA class. A Class A commercial driver can not operate a piece of “emergency equipment” unless he has received driver training on that specific piece of equipment even though he has a clean slate and unblemished record with 20 to 40 years of experience hauling hazardous liquids. This is enough to turn anyone off, and is a very poor use of available experienced personnel. Most will volunteer their available time but if it is going to mean a sizable sacrifice of time and personal finances,; that resource is often unavailable.
I have no arguments that training is a necessary evil which we all must take to protect ourselves but don’t tell me that my life’s experience is not acceptable when the experience I have is far superior to anything that the state might require. That is simply an insult.
A very well written article, but I do have to correct one piece of information regarding Searsport. We have two stations in town, and at the station I cover there are 14 people. The entire department has a crew of 32 members. As with any rural volunteer departments, daytime calls are the hardest to get a crew together. This is a state and nationwide issue, it is getting harder and harder to find people who are willing to give up their time to commit to something like this. Maybe some of it is folks like MaineisMyHome who just don’t know where to go to ask, or it’s people who just take it for granted that the fire department will show up. Either way, if anyone wants to volunteer their time and become a member of their local fire department I say go for it! Check in at your town offices, or stop by your local fire stations, most departments would love to have people who want to help and put the time in.
I was a volunteer once, in Hampden, on the ambulance squad, way back in the mid-to-late 80’s (I’m in my 40’s now.) Things have changed a lot, I’m sure. It’s true, I wouldn’t even know where to start now. My g-grandfather was the founder of a town volunteer fire department (Edgecomb.) I sometimes wonder what it was like in those days…
It’s everywere you go the pride of serving ones comunity in lacking in todays youth. I love doing it and would incurage all to at least suport their fire department in some way.
In a lot of areas it’s the simple lack of youth to fill the ranks. I would say that in Washington County, 80% of the HS grads were forced to leave here to find work. Of the 20% remaining, a large % are into the drug scene, I really don’t think the FD’s want them.
I agree that it seems we are lacking in community service these days. However, that is not always the case. Many of us have to work. I know several young men who would love to volunteer on our local fire department, but they would have to miss several days of work (and money) to get the training to get their foot in the door). Then they would have to attend meetings every Thursday night. Unfortunately, in today’s society, there are lots of good-hearted individuals who just can’t put in the time because they do have to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. Sad but true.
I live in Milo, and I’m a volunteer firefighter for the town of Sebec. During the daytime, under normal driving conditions, it takes me 10 minutes to get to the station. If there is a call, I can make a little better time. It all depends on whether or not people move over to let me by. It really bugs me when I come up behind someone and they dont move over so I can get to the station faster and get an engine rolling. Those that dont move over will more than likely be the first ones to start complaining when the fire trucks dont get there in time to save their home if something ever happens.
I know it’s not required for motorists to move over for POV’s heading to an emergency, but it sure is appreciated. Just think, it could be your house we are headed to.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) Joe, it is not required. Even though you have a red light in your vehicle, it doesn’t give you anymore privilege than if you didn’t. And my statement about it being fortunate, was in no way a reflection upon you. There are volunteers all over the country who get killed responding to a call in their POV because of speed and a host of other factors.
Oh I know all about people speeding to get to the station. When I respond to a call, I have to constantly remind myself to stick to the neighborhood of the speed limit. I tend to float about 5-10 over if the roads are dry during daylight hours. At night, I slow WAY down due to all the critters in the area. I dont even listen to the radio when I’m on the way to the station.
I didn’t realize people didn’t have to move over you. I sound surprised because years ago in another town I was part of a squabble called in by a Volunteer fire fighter who was mad I did not pull over for him on his way to the station. He drove up behind me in his truck with just his hazards flashing, in a discussion later with a cop, the law was brought up specific that basically said a driver has to pull over for a vehicle identified as an emergency vehicle and must include lights of an emergency color to their respective positions (Blue for police, red for Fire) and are not standard to the maker of the vehicle. The cop said basically, if someone behind me has a red light it is not my choice to think because I don’t see “Fire” on your truck or the town doesn’t own it that I don’t have to pull over, I should and must do so. However the Trooper also said that if someone comes up behind you with just their 4 ways on, I do NOT have to pull over or consider it an emergency because if 4 ways allowed people to pull over in front of you, imagine how many people would crank on their 4 ways when they are running late for work…..
Looking into I guess I can see now the tidbits of the law in these cases. I guess I never read that much into it, I always thought it was a law that for as long as you had a red light I must pull over. Not that I am going to change my tone now about it because in the end, you might be on your way to my house…..
I might be wrong, but the Department Officers’ vehicle are considered emergency vehicles if they have roof-mouted red lights. Regular firefighters who have non-roof mounted lights are not considered emergency vehicles. All I run is a “courtesy” light. It may be red, but it’s pretty much useless if I get stuck behind Miss Daisy out for a Sunday drive. It is very frustrating.
I only did what the cop said, he didn’t get too technical of course, he just said if someone is flashing a light of emergency color, move over, if I see it is a bunch of teenagers having fun, pick up the phone. To this day I don’t have time to get technical with light mounted on the roof, dash, windshield and if I should pull over or not. Since that talk I had about 7 years ago, I just move over. I don’t want to hear about it and feel bad that because I thought someones light was not good enough and someone was engaged in an emergency that because of my judgement someone didn’t get CPR in time, or some type of fire under control in time.
Police LIE! they will tell you whatever they think will make you stop talking. You do not have to pull over for personal vehicles.
That appears to be true, though I got educated that I don’t have to pull over for personal vehicles unless they display the proper lighting. Apparently the cop lied because I am sure he didn’t want to dwell on something where the firefighter was actually wrong and I was right as far as the flashers are concerned. I pull over, I have no reason not to at the end of the day.
Nice of Paul Leeman of Bristol to complain. When I moved to Bristol from a different town, I contacted the department about volunteering. I was a licensed EMT, and had been with the department in the town where I was previously living, plus many years of experience in a different state, including as an Instructor.
Their answer? Well, you have to have lived in Bristol for a year. And we don’t need anyone up in your part of town anyway.
And now he’s complaining? That was the first and ONLY volunteer department I’ve ever encountered that refused a willing volunteer.
I understand the need to have extensive training for these performing specific, potentially dangerous roles but it sounds like the government regulations are putting a severe strain on these departments. What a shocker. If these regulations were loosened a bit you would probably see more people interested in becoming firefighters and I bet you anything that you would not see an increase in accidents or injuries when fighting fires. Like any type of government regulations they are developed largely by a group of people who know very little on the subject or even worse, those who are misinformed on the subject. I am glad we have those who are still willing to put up with all of the training requirements but let’s use a little common sense and try to fix the problem. Not too many people have the time or money to commit to 100+ hours of education, training, tests, etc. I think the local fire departments do a great job with what they have but lets give them some more to work with and help recruitment efforts. BTW I think the model they are using in Searsport is a great way to get people started and like he said once they get a taste they often want to pursue further avenues. It’s just human nature.
Regulations just like everything else. Regulations are grinding our country to a halt.
That’s what happens when you try and legislate “common sense” …. Somebody sues for not making sure there’s enough water in the truck … You drove the truck on my lawn …. You let the barn burn to save the house, but if you tried HARDER you might have saved it all …
Those that “do” will “do” what it takes … Those that just “talk” about it …. Well, that’s all that gets done ….
We have such a litigious society that the insurance companies have forced so many regulations. I guess we just circle around until so many houses burn, lives are lost or damage beyond necessity before we take a step back and say “OK what IS the best way to handle this issue” …
Most of the world’s most complex problems have simple solutions … Just complicated people in the way !!!
With out regulation s would you want your son or daughter sent into a burning house with no training an she could die ? Than there would be law suits because she did not have the training to do what she was doing so dam if you do an dame if you don’t look even profesenals fire fighter are killed every year. Look at how many get hurt fighting fires
And now that we have so many regulations we don’t have enough people to fight fires.
I stand by what i said
Yeah, who needs a bunch of stupid regulations. Who needs laws and rules? Why don’t we just throw out all that pesky nonsense? If I didn’t know better, I’d think you were an anarchist. But, oh that’s right, we’re hearing the same old tired Tea Party rhetoric, the same one your corporate masters feed to simple-minded people.
You just do whatever your little president wants. Soon we will all be wearing helmets when we drive our cars…mandatory . Soon kids won’t be allowed to ride a horse until they are 16, it’s coming because people like you want to be regulated from the second you get up in the morning till you turn your mercury riddled light bulb off at night.
This is the age of Obama. We don’t volunteer. We occupy and demand our Obama-bucks and other hand-outs. Let the rich volunteer. We do not help others, others should be helping us.
Yep my dog got run over 30 years ago, must have be Obamas fault.
You sure it got run over and not eaten?
Towns don’t want to pay the people always looking for free service
Between OSHA, MSHA, MEMA, FEMA, DOT, EPA, DEP and any other lettered agency which has nothing to do except write more laws which inhibit the ability of people from volunteering their time to their community; I am amazed that there are any who still wish to contribute to their neighbors safety. The requirements are so prohibitive that once the requirements are explained in full , many simply say “The hell with that, I don’t have that much time.” It’s my opinion that this is just a ruse to force the use of PAID departments on communities. While that is not in and of itself a bad thing for recruitment purposes it is cost prohibitive from a taxation point of view and it also opens the liability aspect for individual firefighters who are currently protected by the Good Samaritan law.
Most members of current volunteer FD’s are not as young as most people think. There are a few under 40 but many dept’s are pushing 50 in member average age. It would help if the State or community would at the least provide some sort of remuneration (tax exempt would help) for those members who still take the time to return to their community, their time , effort and in rare instances their lives.
Once again the northeast has to be different. The rest of the country has County fire departments, pooled money, less firehouses, some paid, some vol. I fail to understand why New England thinks it can do it better when the rest of the country has already figured it out. The only answer I have is, “this is my bowl of rice and I don’t want anyone else to control it” mentality.
As a former Chief of a Volunteer Fire Department in another state, I understand the rural fire department situation. Our station was a volunteer station, no one was paid a single nickel. At the end of the year, we did try to give at least a $100 per volunteer to help pay for gas. We paid for training, and equipment. We had 35-40 volunteers in a town of about 2000. We also contracted with the county to provide protection outside the city limits. The majority of our funding came from the city, with a contract for services to the county.
What happened there was a strong paid Firefighters Union that pushed the state legislature into demanding a ridiculous level of training. It was a self-serving group. They wanted the training to be so difficult that volunteers would be limited because of the 250+ hours of training. Well, it worked 25 years later, most of the volunteer departments have disappeared. There used to be 12 volunteer fire stations in the area, now, there are none. Taxes in the town and county were raised significantly for fire and rescue services. Now when you call the fire department and they respond, you are charged $100 per incident.
Don’t get me wrong, volunteers need to be trained, but 200+ hours is a bit much to ask. That would be an 4 hour training session on Saturday for over a year. Not many people can give that much time. I won’t go into the reasons, but they were basically the same as stated by other posters. Training does not always make a good fireman, experience and practice is what counts. When that much training is required, many volunteers, go to fire and EMT school and become paid firemen.
Our department had a Boy Scout Explorer Post. We usually had about 10 members, who were happy to work with the department. Most of these young men became members when they turned 18. Many of them over the years eventually became a paid fireman or rescue personnel. My son was one of those young people. He is now 34 years of age, is a paramedic, rescue squad engineer, and works as a flight nurse for the local air ambulance. Getting young people involved is the key. Most of the explorers, who trained with the firemen, needed no training when they turned 18 and were able to be regular members.
Government intervention is good up to a point, but a well trained fire chief would never put someone in a position that required skills the person didn’t possess. I have to agree the age of volunteerism is disappearing, the main reason is a government shoe on the neck of the Volunteer Firemen.
One of, if not the best, written reader comment ever.
Thank-you.
Maybe it would behove the FD’s to recruit in the HS’s. There are lot’s of kids who would love to have something other than video games to occupy their time.
.. or from them becoming our next arsonists due to boredom.
Been there, done that. doesn’t work. HS kids have been schooled to the point that it is no longer cool to be a member of a community organized service. There are too many ways to get free stuff from the govt. so the idea of giving back to the community is no longer taught in the school system. True there are a few that will join but those generally have a family history of fire service. Some have had a tragic loss as a result of fire and will join for that reason. It is not just another job it is a commitment and like far too many others commitment is seen as a barrier not to be crossed.
Interesting discussions. Most of the “State rules” have to do with safety of those who fight fires. You can burn the whole town down; and there is no law that will affect you. The laws and their rules try to keep all firefighters to be able to go home after a call. The amount of injury and deaths in this dangerous profession are updated almost every hour……go to http://www.firefighterclosecalls.com its a staggering amount.
Very true. The rules are mostly coming out of BLS/OSHA where the focus is on worker (FFER) safety and ensuring the ’employer’ (FD) takes the necessary steps to ensure they are trained to do their job safely, have the proper equipment, equipment is maintained, policies are defined and everyone is aware of them, etc.. It’s become a problem, however, since they are trying to apply these rules to all FDs from the smallest to the largest and many of the smaller departments just don’t have the time or money to comply with them all. That said, there does appear to be a certain degree of leniency towards volunteer departments and while it might be best to have formalized FF I/II they do allow chiefs to place on record ‘evaluations of FFERs who meet training and efficiency evaluations who may have 20 years of real-life experience that may far exceed a jr FFER who just completed FF I/II. A broad-brush solution just doesn’t work and a balance needs to be struck so safety can be improved w/o the disincentives in trying to go above and beyond what is necessary.
Years ago most Families living in smaller Maine villages and towns had roots going back many generations. The volunteers were protecting farms that were not just houses, but the very existence of the family that worked that land. Today many of those farms have been sold to devlopers who have built expensive homes where barns once stood. These newcomers often don’t join the fire departments. The often work 20 to 30 miles away, however,I think the biggest reason the newer residents don’t join is the lack of roots in the town. They may not even know their neighbors just down the street. Their kids may go to a high school miles away and when the trucks leave the station in the middle of the night-more than likely they are on the way to a home, business, or farm unknown to the family that has to moved to the development where the “Smith” farm used to be.
For all you people who live to be regulated by your president picture this…..you are driving home late in the evening, maybe out for a movie with you spouse or date and you come apron a fire at a house one a rural road…nobody else is around. You can hear kids inside, are you not going to try to help the family because you have had no training? How the heck did humanity survive this long, people helping people without a government regulating their behavior.