ORRINGTON, Maine — A forestry and gravel mining operation off Route 15 is intruding on otherwise quiet neighborhoods in Orrington and across the Penobscot River in Hampden, residents say.

“That’s why we bought here,” resident Dennis Colson said Monday afternoon during an informal gathering at neighbor Jim McDougal’s home on Grant Street, located in south Orrington between the river and Route 15.

Last winter, the noise was connected to timber harvesting, McDougal and a group of about half a dozen neighbors said.

The worksite is owned by Michael Thornton of Thornton Construction in Milford. Thornton could not be reached for comment Monday evening.

When the chipper was running, Colson, who lives across the road, said he couldn’t hear the television in his Grant Road home, roughly 1,000 feet from the site. Another neighbor said the chipper made his house shake when it was in use.

With the timber work completed, residents of Grant Road in Orrington and Main Road South in Hampden now say they are being subjected to noise from the engines of heavy machinery, the banging of dump truck tailgates and the beeping of backup alarms from an array of machines used in gravel removal and road construction.

Since early April, they say, the machinery and vehicles have been running from 6:30 a.m. through 6:30 p.m. most weekdays.

That is because the gravel mine, which can be accessed from McGinn Road, recently became a staging area for a contractor working on the Route 15 overhaul that began earlier this spring. McGinn Road runs roughly parallel to Grant Road.

The residents say it is their understanding that the mining will go on at least through the end of the year, if not longer.

Rob Lilieholm, who lives in Hampden, said his home on the river is among eight to 10 homes in Hampden that were affected in recent years by an earlier gravel mining site operated by the same owner.

In an effort to minimize the noise, Lilieholm has landscaped and had a waterfall installed. This year, he plans to install central air conditioning as another way to create “white noise” that might help drown out the din that is coming across the river.

The affected residents have aired their complaints with local officials with no success. McDougal said he and his wife also have spoken with officials from several state departments and agencies, but so far to no avail.

McDougal’s wife, Carol, is a nurse who works the evening shift and needs to be able to sleep in the early morning hours. In a letter to the Bangor Daily News about the issue, she wrote that while she is glad that the road is being rebuilt, she does not believe the staging area needs to be in her backyard.

She said she would rather see it moved to another spot on Thornton’s more than 100-acre parcel.

“The constant noise has had its toll on me and has made any outdoor activities obsolete,” she said. “Headaches, lack of sleep, depression are just a few issues. Staying inside with the windows shut only dulls the noise.”

Orrington Town Manager Paul White said Monday that there is nothing town officials can do about the mining operation.

Though Colson and other residents say mining should not be allowed in their rural setting, gravel removal is an activity allowed in the town’s Rural Residence and Farming Districts, according to Orrington’s Land Use Ordinance.

Thornton has obtained the necessary permit and is abiding by regulations, White said.

White said the town has received several noise and dust complaints since last fall, when the new owner of the parcel began harvesting timber and extricating gravel.

White said the town asked Thornton to limit lumber harvesting to certain hours and that he did.

“The town of Orrington can’t dictate to landowners what they can do with their property. I have no right to do that. I’m sympathetic to them but there is only so much the town can do,” White said.

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  1. I don’t believe gravel pits are concidered Mines until the reach a depth of 200 or more feet. So I’ll call it a gravel pit that they are doing escavating in.
    Folks gravel pits are very important  and are an industry that creates jobs.   

    1. Jobs over decency, money over beauty, big business over people, pollution over freedom.

      Welcome to the land of greed.

      1.  I’m not sure the Route 15 repaving project really qualifies as “big business”.  Just puttin’ it out there.

      2. well how do you expect people to pay for things if they don’t have jobs. I have an idea. Those people that might be employed should just move in with you and you can take care of all of their needs. You must have worked at some  point in your life. Did anything that you did inconvenience anyone in any way? even the smallest bit? I bet you did in some way at least once. 

  2. Instead of complaining about someone who is fortunate enough to have a job fixing the roads we all complain about, why don’t you take the approach that  Rob Lilieholm has and take steps to minimize the effects.

  3. This is why Maine is not considered a business friendly state. If you want to live somewhere that there is absolutely no noise, go live in Northwestern Maine. These people have seemingly never lived in a city. I hear similar noises in town and have no problem sleeping or going outside.

    1. Sorry, I can’t agree with your noise assessment in Northwestern Maine.  I live in NW Maine(Androscoggin river valley).  Noise is abundant here, too.  Some people, it seems, *live* to make noise – industrial wood chippers, mudruns, and jake brakes on tractor trailers everywhere.  And in the winter racing snowmobiles on the river and on trails, paper mill steam releases that’ll rattle your windows, and yahoos with private aircraft buzzing the treetops. Noise pollution is nearly *everywhere*.

      1. Not to mention motorcycles with their rigged straight-pipe exhaust systems. The noise from those bloody things is nothing short of evil. I thought they passed a noise ordinance against such pollution. 

    2. Agreed. Everyone complains about poverty and lack of job opportunities and as soon as a business comes along and creates jobs, everyone seems angry because it might inconvenience them in some slight way.

      Who in the heck sits in their house from 6:30 to 6:30 everyday anyway? I’d be home for an hour of that at most during the work week.

      1. Retired people, some mothers with babies and young children are home during the 6:30 to 6:30 hours. Some shift work people have to sleep during the day. Also some disabled people, and people that are ill. Some of the noises connected with the mentioned business can be likened to water torture. I live on a busy highway and the traffic noise doesn’t bother me, even the fire trucks and police cars that go by every day with sirens going. When it snows and a guy next door shows up to plow, the noise of his back up horns drive me nuts. It is a big parking lot that he plows and at 4 AM they make plenty of noise.

    3. I believe these people were there before all this noise started. It’s a shame that Mr. Thornton is so inconciderate of his “neighbors”.

      1.  I wonder how long  these folks have not owned Mr. Thornton’s land? I wonder how long Mr Thornton has owned his land?
         We read a similar story a month or more ago in this paper, some  folks down  in Southern Maine upset because the  the owners of the property   on the end of their dead end street  are going to develop  the land. These folks thought  that since they used  this property as their  personal park and buffer zone  against development , that the land owner should not be allowed to disrupt what they had become accustomed to.
        In this case it seems  everyone  can understand the need to fix Rt.15, but  these folks want someone else to deal with the noise. Typical NIMBY attitudes.
        P.S  sounds like this is a gravel pit, not a copper Mine.

          1.  I think it’s another NIMBY situation. I especially enjoy seeing the Tree hugger types  on TV or in the paper complaining that  the windmills disrupt the harmony of their  compounds and  adversely affect the milk production of  Che,their goat. These same folks  are usually wearing sandals ,a Green Peace T-shirt,live in a Yurt  an  have a 20 year old Subaru covered with  Gore 2000,Save the Whales,Love not War and walking fish stickers on the hatch.

        1. I was raised in Orrington. They are all for improvements until it comes into their back yard. Then they scream like a little girl when a boy is chasing her with a snake.

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          I wonder how long  these folks have not owned Mr. Thornton’s land? I wonder how long Mr Thornton has owned his land? We read a similar story a month or more ago in this paper, some  folks down  in Southern Maine upset because the  the owners of the property   on the end of their dead end street  are going to develop  the land. These folks thought  that since they used  this property as their  personal park and buffer zone  against development , that the land owner should not be allowed to disrupt what they had become accustomed to. In this case it seems  everyone  can understand the need to fix Rt.15, but  these folks want someone else to deal with the noise. Typical NIMBY attitudes. P.S  sounds like this is a gravel pit, not a copper Mine.
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        2. Not to mention…this is the same group of people that would call the Sheriff when the boys were riding their dirt bikes. Trying.. to be kids. And Colson is one to talk…He cut trees down on his neighbors property and continually drives his atv down to the unjustly POSTED gravel pit at the end of the Grant road. I live on the Grant road and i havent found the noise to be that bad. I have one word for these hippocrates: KARMA

  4. I could sleep with ease during any of this so called “noise” but they will get used to it in due time and learn to ignore it. It is amazing what your brain can filter out with enough time.

    1. I can remember when Loring Air Force base was open and the B-52’s Used to fly a Practice route that was just a few miles from my parents house and they seemed quiet low (I actually miss hearing it) . They where loud but they never woke me up, not even sleeping in a tent in my parents yard. Not to mention the train yard a little less than a mile behind the same house switching cars all hours of the night. Kevin is right its amazing what you can get used to given enough time, the problem is no one wants to get used to anything.

    2. it’s also amazing what your brain can filter out if you worked all day or night and are tired enough. my wife works nights also and slept right through a vehicle rollover on our lawn, right under her bedroom window. never heard the crash, the sirens, or the noise from the emergency  vehicles and radios.

    3. Noise that your brain can filter out…hmmm.  Most of us who are married can attest to that.

  5. I once lived next to a rock crushing operation, gravel pit in Hampden. It almost drove me crazy. The operation ran all night as well as all day. Also the dust from it was impossible to escape. I feel terrible for these people that are living with this nightmare now.

  6. The need for a staging area is another charge we can’ lodge’ against those ‘dam’ beavers.
    Good thing they were arrested and deported.

  7. This route 15 “improvement project” is going to impact everyone along the route, everyone
    that travels the road, and every property owner that abutts it.  (Personally, I have not really
    understood since way back when I saw it being staked out and the impacts it was going to
    have on those living there why the new route 15 wasn’t built as a bypass versus a widening
    through these people’s front yards).   It’s a major project, requires long hours, heavy equipment
    and a local staging area for materials to get the job done.  As far as other noise pollution that
    goes on at the site, perhaps the residents need to talk with their planning board and code
    enforcement officer to manage the land use.

    1. Gotta wonder what they were smoking years back when they zig zagged the rail line with the route, not once, not twice, but three freakin times.

  8. You cant have it both ways. Jobs, better roads come with a sacrifice. If this wasn’t you, it would be someone else. I agree with the below posts that in time if yo allow your mind to ease about the situation that you will be able to sleep. Get over it

    1. My son and grand children live less the 5 miles from Rt. 15 and i have only been on it less then a dozen times in 10 years. Maybe once something is done more will

  9. Orrington can’t get much more rural then it is. You have PERC up the road that smells and runs 24/7 and people are getting around okay. I hope Paul stands his groung on this. People try to make a living in Maine and people complain. Maine should not be a vacation and welfare state. We need jobs and cutting wood and hauling gravel is part of  living in Maine. Without wood the mills do not run peoples houses get cold. Without gravel we get potholes like half of Maine roads are know.

  10. One of the people complaiming dad does constrution work and has a pretty good business. So folks try to enjoy the noise and make the best of it.  

  11. Thank you for putting up with the disruption in your peace and quiet….this too shall pass and most will benefit with better roads as a result. Speaking the the community we are sympathetic and appriciative.

  12. To be good “neighbors” the contractors should offer some consideration instead of driving these folks mental……complimentary radio earphones ($50 bucks a pop), some landscaping,  etc.  Yes we need jobs and progress, even if temporary noise due to road construction, but to drive our citizens nuts is not progress.  I’d make a citizen petition to change the ordinance…to include a property tax abatement for the period of time the citizen were denied quiet enjoyment of their own property.  http://www.noisefree.org/howtofightnoisemanual.pdf shows there is a federal law on noise pollution (but it is not enforced).
    Or take another tactic…..all that noise is probably driving away endangered Atlantic salmon from coming up river….
    p.s. God’s got nothing to do with it…….

  13. Was the pit/mine there and operating when the neighbors moved in? in reading the article I get the idea that it was.
    If it was there ,I don’t see where the neighbors have much of a leg to stand on. 
    Something else comes to mind after reading davidvsgoliath’s comment about mine vs pit. Was the term mine used because of the mining issue up north?

    1. The gravel excavation is relatively new, past 18 – 24 months.  They did not purchase with an active gravel pit next door.  The 100 acres was owned by a family for decades with a home on the bank of the river and other homes on the land.  It was a beautiful piece of land, but evidently the gravel was worth more. 

      1. The gravel pit was actually opened pre 1979.  It is on the national geological survey and mapping.  

    2. Gravel pits are governed under MSHA as a mining site. They follow under the mining acts.

  14. Here’s a thought:  you folks shouldn’t have built your subdivision in a rural area near a road.  Timber and construction equipment belong in such an area.  Your homes don’t!

  15. Noise?  Sound of economic activity.  I live close to this project, and had to laugh when reading the article.  Follow the money….  First fabricate a noise complaint, suggest hardship, and maybe the “big corporation” will pay you off to go back to sleep.   There’s always an underlying motive.   Usually money. 

  16.  Typical NIMBYs.

     They want a superhighway directly to their doorstep, but don’t want to put up with the temporary noises that accompany the construction.

  17. When I first moved to Biddeford ME from West Hartford CT. West Hartford is a much bigger town than Biddeford is a City.  I had a very time with all the different city sounds and noises. I live near the both Fire Station and Police Dept. plus when the wind is blowing in the right direction I could  and cab hear the freight trains at night.

    I got an Air Conditioner for the Spring, Summer and early fall. I also bought a fan that does create white noise. Within in less than a year I liked and got used the music or sounds of the area. It is to the point if I do not hear the trains I figure something must be wrong.

    Rob Lilieholm is right on the money about doing something himself about his land and home. Very few of live in perfect places –

  18. The video is a riot, as he stands next to his $40,000 boat complaining “listen to this for 12 hours a day!!” With all due respect do you not work?? Since we are are complaining about listening to the noise of heavy equipment for 12 hours a day, why don’t we consider the poor guy running the equipment!! How dare that bad EMPLOYER force those EMPLOYEES to listen to that noise for 12 hours a day!! This is not rocket science, they are rebuilding the road, we don’t use picks and shovels anymore since the early industrial age so there may be a little noise to deal with until the project is done. Some people can do nothing but complain and it seems like here in Maine we have more than our fair share of said people. I would be willing to bet if the noise wasn’t there and they weren’t rebuilding the road that these people would be first in line complaining about the condition of the road, or the eyesore of the EXISTING gravel pit in their back yard, or the color of the pine trees in their neighbors yard isn’t right, or those big bad trucks going to and from the paper mill up the road are to fast or to loud or to truck-like … 

      1. so is he working under the table storing  and cleaning boats or working on them?  I wouldn’t create that exposure…   The government doesn’t like those cash deals…  I could stay home all day and listen to construction if I could collect cash.  Businesses should have to compete fairly.  

    1. Maybe there are two working people in the home.  Perhaps one works from 4:00am until 3:00pm and comes home to unwind.  What if the other one works from 3:00pm until 11:00pm and needs to sleep in the morning? Maybe the gravel pit was not there when they bought there house.  Maybe there is 110 acres available and they could have put the staging area on the other side of the land away from the homes. Or maybe the staging area could have been put in your back yard?  Would you whine then?

  19. I can sympathize with the adjoining property owners, but I
    assume that they themselves would have had the same opportunity to have
    purchased the property when it was for sale.

  20. Whine about the road needing to be fixced, whine about the noise to fix the road, whine whine whine -its all you people ever do.  Construction noise is good for the economy.  Noise is annoying but it wont last forever. get over yourself .idiots  

  21. I’m going to shoot from the hip here…do you suppose Orrington had a town council meeting, open to the public, before granting a license to Thornton for his mine?  Who do you suppose didn’t attend and publicly comment?  Secondly, do you suppose the State had a public forum to discuss the improvement of Route 15?  Do you suppose the same people who didn’t attend the town meeting didn’t attend the public forum too?  It’s OK in your back yard, just NIMBY!

  22. We live at The Mondrian, Turtle Bay, NYC, and outside there is heavy traffic and activity.  I sympathize with Mr. McDougal of Orrington here because we hear absolutely little or nothing in the line of traffic down at street level here, but only for an occasional very-muffled jet flying overhead.   When you are outside in the “wilds”, and in small towns anyplace in the world,  I guess you can say, the zoning ordinances can be satisfying or non-existent, especially if and when income can be generated for the township.  Even in local subdivisions in larger cities, right next door you can have a gravel-concrete operation going on, and it is as irritating as the “fingernails across the chalk board” or someone “grinding their teeth in your ears”, but at tremendously-generated levels of noise!

    Mr. McDougal, here is an example of quantifying if the noise levels – which actually can be legally classified as a “nuisance”, can be abated.  It is up to you and the neighbors and the township of Orrington to take it from here.   

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