Dear Prudence,
In the past two years it’s become very apparent that my son “Ben,” who is now 8, is probably gay. My wife and I have not discussed this much, as both of us are uncomfortable with the prospect. We have tentatively agreed to let be what will be and to roll with it the best we can.
The problem is my father. He is a macho, gruff and sometimes brutish man, and he has not taken well to my son’s effeminate ways. On more than one occasion my father has lectured me about Ben, telling me if something isn’t done, “That boy’s going to grow up to be a homo.” He often tells Ben to “man up” and to “stop talking like a sissy.”
In response, Ben, who is respectful and well-behaved, has become withdrawn around his grandfather and avoids him. Our house is close to my father’s and he helps us financially. He even takes care of our three kids while we’re at work. My wife and I really didn’t want to deal with Ben’s likely sexual orientation until he was older, but now my dad is forcing our hand. What should we do? — Sweet Boy’s Father
Dear Father,
It doesn’t matter if the perpetrator is your father and you’re in deep with him financially, you should never allow anyone to bully or humiliate your son. It’s not going to be much of a savings if relying on your father for child care results in Ben’s emotional collapse. If someday Ben confronts you, asking how you could have knowingly let his grandfather mistreat him, imagine telling him you just needed the money.
I understand your father is from a different generation. But that doesn’t excuse someone from being so stupid as to think that if you slap some wrist splints on an effeminate boy and bellow at him “Man up, you sissy!,” you’ll turn him into a heterosexual. I agree that letting your son enjoy his childhood and feel loved — no matter who he ends up loving as an adult — is a good strategy. But you and your wife need to be comfortable with your son so that you can address your father’s discomfort.
A Sept. 15, 2010, article by Slate contributor Jesse Bering about “prehomosexuality” will help give you some perspective. Look at the website of Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays for information and to find a support group if you want to talk to other parents who will understand your situation.
You need to address your father calmly but firmly. Tell him that Ben is just a child, and his grandson. You understand that he’s frustrated that Ben is not the rough-and-tumble type, but that doesn’t mean that Ben doesn’t deserve to be respected for who he is and for all his wonderful qualities. Tell him it’s crucial that the hectoring of Ben stops. Say it’s already damaging Ben, and surely no grandfather would want to do that. If your father threatens to withdraw his financial support, or responds that he’s entitled to treat his grandson as he sees fit, then tell him you’re sorry to hear that. But say he must know no real man would ever let anyone hurt his son, and you will figure out how to get along without his help. — Prudie
Dear Prudence,
My daughter’s friend Leila has been harassing her over the phone because a few weeks ago, when Leila spent the night, she allegedly accidentally left a valuable necklace here. Turns out the necklace belongs to Leila’s dad’s girlfriend, and Leila did not have permission to borrow it. My daughter and I have scoured the house for the necklace but have found no trace of it. I am not sure it is here.
On top of Leila’s abusive profanity-filled phone calls, Leila’s dad and his girlfriend expect my husband and I to repay them for the lost necklace. First of all, I don’t know if the necklace is in our house and I don’t feel responsible for Leila losing it.
Secondly, they say the necklace is worth over $300, which we have no way of verifying. How do I handle these people and their daughter’s bullying? Our daughters are 12, by the way. — Can’t Find Necklace
Dear Necklace,
What a coincidence. I recently stayed at a friend’s house and brought along the Hope Diamond. I must have left it by the bathroom sink, and my hosts better return the stone, or better yet, reimburse me for it.
Unfortunately, you have to tell your daughter that her friend and her family are behaving so terribly that your daughter can’t socialize with Leila anymore. Then if the family keeps contacting you, reiterate you don’t have the necklace, you’ve never had it, and if the threats don’t stop immediately, you are going to call the police. — Prudie
Dear Prudence,
I’ve discovered a fraud in my company, and I don’t know what to do. I work at a great, small company, and the owners are wonderful bosses. The main division, where I primarily work, is profitable and well run.
But another division — where I have some duties — is in trouble, which everyone knows about except the owners. This division is run by a middle manager, “Scott,” whose skills and expertise are lacking. A recent hire by Scott, a guy named “Thom,” is threatening to bring the situation to a head and I am not sure whether I should alert the owners.
Suspicions among the staff were aroused when Thom, who was billed as an expert in our field, appeared to know little about our industry. He also started insisting his name was “Tom,” not “Thom,” though his email and other documents use “Thom.”
I like research and have access to multiple databases, and I quickly discovered Thom’s credentials are fraudulent, and he’s lied about pretty much everything since being hired. My company does not like complainers, and the owners value a culture of kindness. Suspicion would not go over well. But Thom threatens a large part of our business, and Scott is so opaque he appears to be hiding a lot of things. Should I wait for this to play itself out, or should I speak up? I fear being branded as a non-team-player and I need this job for the long term.
— Armchair Detective
Dear Detective,
I hate to break it to you, but if a major division of your company is overseen by a sketchy guy who hires an obvious impostor, and your bosses have no idea, then your company is not that well run. If you would be branded disloyal for bringing to the owners’ attention the fact that a fraud artist is threatening their livelihoods, then you might not have a job in the long term because this business may not be destined to last. Go to your bosses with what you’ve discovered. Explain your concerns were provoked when Scott made a high-level hire of someone who appears to lack familiarity with your industry. Say database research is one of your skills and you discovered information about Thom that shows some serious inconsistencies. Avoid making direct accusations about Scott and Thom — you’re simply drawing attention to the record. (If the thought of doing this makes you too fearful, you can write the trusty anonymous letter and enclose your documentation.) If Thom isn’t quickly gone and if Scott’s division doesn’t have a shake-up, then reread “The Firm” — and dust off your résumé.
— Prudie
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Sweet Boy’s family needs to have a meeting with departing Bishop Malone ASAP. He can advise them on the Catholic Church’s highly respected programs for handling young men who might be gay. They don’t have to be Catholic to take advantage of these wonderful programs run by priests. Nuns, of course, are not allowed to participate as they might violate Church teachings.
Its been proven the the catholic church dose more harm than good when they try to reform gays an that has been proven . Do a search an see for your self an some states have all ready out lawed that
I know a man and a woman who were fixed by the church.
In both cases they separately told me that “Matthew Shepards parents should have fixed him?
these peoples minds have been turned intot the sickest of the sick on the planet – blaming the parent for their kids horrific murder
BTW the catholic church has molested a hundred thousand kids in the USA and the pope covered up these vile crimes. the root of the molestation is the abnormal denial of sex and and even masturbation. Ultimately sex rears its head in a strange way, which includes sexuazl immaturity and the power position thing of prison rape.
Just take a quick look at this link
http://www.torontosnumber1datedoctor.com/NEWSLETTER%20ARTICLES/sexual_confidence_repressed.htmlhttp://www.standard.co.uk/news/pope-led-coverup-of-child-abuse-by-priests-7220621.htmlDo you want the church to fix your kid like they fixed kids in Holland and prob many other places – their next great scandal http://www.standard.co.uk/news/pope-led-coverup-of-child-abuse-by-priests-7220621.html
You want to turn your kid over to these sicko – he’ll be like raw meat to a hungry lion.
BTW in the final John Jay = CCNY report on the molestation, it said that as more gay priests entered the priesthood, the molestation rate went down
Easy enough to understand – the gay priests were having consensual, age appropriate sex with each other. The str8 priests couldnt afford prostitutes, the nuns / sisters were mostly unavailable to them, and the kiddies were the easiest to both rape and convince that the molestation was their own fault (rat on me and I’ll have you sent to the devil)
I really hope you’re kidding. “The Catholic Church’s highly respected programs for handling young men who might be gay”—that is probably one of the most ludicrous statements I’ve seen in quite a while. A church that is known for molestation, rape, and castration, is the last place any parent should take an LGBT child for support or counseling.
Like the Catholics know how to reform gays. Not a great track record . At 8 it is too young to tell let the kid be a kid.
And dont end up doing what the catholic parents did to this kid – Its a miracle he didnt commit suicide, but is now in a happy relationship, he’s about 23
I asked him if he was suicidal the first time that we met – his answer “I wouldnt let my catholic parents have the pleasure of seeing me dead”
this is the kind of hate the church is about, just as the German pope evidently hates jews as well as gays, both of whom he saw going to the death camps as a youngster
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/world/europe/25pope.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
If it comes to this and you cant get anywhere with your own dad, at simply tell your Dad he’s never going to see his grandkid again.
its a lot better then taking a chance on your visiting your kid in the cemetary.
8 is absolutely not “too young”; many young people are quite clear as to their sexual orientation by that age. In addition, transgender kids typically know quite well that they are housed in the wrong body from a much earlier age.
Just because a child exists girly traits it does not mean your son is gay. Using your logic every girl that acts tom boyish when she’s young is potentially a lesbian. Let the boy enjoy his childhood and stop focusing on his sexuality, that could do more harm than good. Show some backbone to your father he’s a bully. Sweet Boy’s father, you too are a weeny to your father, stop taking his money, sounds like your the one with the issues and you are passing on your own insecurities to your son, which could potentially have your son question his sexuality.
I agree. 8 years old is a bit too young to even think about sexual preference.
I remember 2 guys in school being sneered at because they acted effeminate, hung around girls playing jump rope, etc.
Surprise! They were among the first of our class to get married and have a passel of kids!
“My son likely is gay; my father hates ‘homos’.. sounds like the story line for a new fall sitcom..
I had a stepson & could tell he was gay @ 7 yrs old and I was right. He had pictures of boys & boy bands all over his wall while my kid had sports stars. That was a dead giveaway. He spoke in a sissy voice & wore pastel girly shirts that his mother bought him too. He’s married to his boyfriend now! My GAYDAR has never let me down. I truly DO NOT believe you are born that way. I think his mother made him that way by sissying him & letting him act that way.
A child’s sexual orientation can emerge at almost any age. I recently read an article about another father’s reaction to his very young gay son. If all parents reacted in such a supportive way, we would probably have less LGBT children and teens resorting to suicide.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-dad/a-fathers-reaction-to-his-very-young-gay-son_b_1381573.html
Hopefully, the father and grandfather are able to come to an understanding that will allow the grandfather to continue to be a part of the boy’s life. I was very young when I realized my own sexual orientation. If it were not for supportive parents and grandparents, I can’t imagine where I would be now. It is sad that it can be so difficult for some people to love another person, in this case a child, for who they are, and not for who they want them to be.
Let the kid do what he wants. If you’re the parent and someone is bullying your child, stop it. A child shouldn’t have to monitor their mannerisms and garbage like that. Come on.
Pay no attention to the kid! He is only 8, give him a bicycle a baseball and a bat, he will fiqure it out!
Slap the Old Duffa up aside the head!
Sounds like the parents may have already made him that way. They do not know any betther than the grandfather. Problem with society today they want to teach them to early what they should be or should not be. Thank the Liberals for that.
First the fact that you allow your dad to speak that way about your son says far more about YOU then him… If ANYONE is cruel or disparaging to your kids them it is YOUR job to not let them near the kids.
Next you and your wife “tentatively agreed to let be what will be and to roll with it the best we can” make you both as bad as your father. Your kids are who they are. If you do not accept your own children then you have problems. See a professional.