BANGOR, Maine — Each summer for almost a decade, downtown residents, business people and visitors have seen members of the Bangor Police Department’s Mountain Bike Unit pedaling the city streets on the lookout for bad behavior or those in need of help.
This summer — because of manpower issues and other unforeseen factors — it doesn’t appear that the department will be able to operate the unit, Bangor police Lt. Steven Hunt told city councilors during a brief workshop Monday night.
The issues may be short term and the department hopes to put the Mountain Bike Unit back on the streets in 2013, he said.
In the meantime, other mechanisms have been put into place to beef up the neighborhood’s police presence, including assigning an officer to conduct foot patrols effective Monday — with a focus on Pickering Square and the “downtown basin,” Hunt said.
In recent months, bad behavior on the part of some people who frequent downtown and Pickering Square, where the Community Connector bus service transfer hub is located, has become a source of increasing complaints from downtown residents, merchants and customers.
They, as well as administrators and council members, have expressed concerns about foul language, public intoxication, panhandling, brawls and other less-than-ideal conduct.
Some business people have told Bangor police and city officials that they have been asked to escort scared workers and customers to the parking garage, especially after the sun sets. Merchants worry that the problems in Pickering Square are driving customers away.
Council Chairman Cary Weston noted that Monday night’s briefing was among several the council has held — and will conduct — in its effort to create an atmosphere that suits those who live and work downtown and those who visit the area for its growing number of entertainment options.
City councilors and administrators briefly discussed what it would take to relocate the bus depot but scrapped the concept earlier this month after considering the $25,000-plus cost of a study such a move would require as well as the logical problems that would have to be addressed.
Though Hunt said details are still being firmed up, he said Monday that the foot patrol is planned for 4-8 p.m., Monday through Saturday, over the summer.
In addition, he said, the department’s Special Enforcement Team already has been working in the downtown area on Thursday nights as well as a few day shifts. Hunt said other officers will be assigned to walk through downtown as staffing levels permit.
Councilor James Gallant, who has been watching the issue closely, wasn’t sure that the 4-8 p.m. time frame was when police were most needed in the neighborhood.
“We’re attracting more people downtown and we try to enforce the rules there but we’re trying to make it as pleasurable for people as we can,” said Councilor Nelson Durgin.
Councilor Geoff Gratwick wanted to know how residents could play a role in curbing unruly behavior in situations that aren’t 911-worthy emergencies.
“We want you to call whenever you see something,” Hunt said, adding that residents can call the police department’s business line or leave information on its tip line, through email or on Facebook.
Hunt said he plans to work closely with Rosie Vanadestine of the Economic and Community Development Office and George Kinghorm of the Downtown Business Partnership, which has helped fund the mountain bike unit, to discuss further concerns and possible solutions.
In another change in patrol practices, the police department has discontinued its motorcycle patrol program, largely because of the cost associated with training, certification and other considerations, Hunt said after the meeting. The department’s longtime motorcycle cop, Dan Herrick, retired earlier this year.
Hunt said the department had been leasing a Harley-Davidson for its motorcycle patrol, which was a seasonal program.



Maybe they will get a handle on the scroats soon. Then we can walk through town after supper hour without being verbally accosted.
Funny how people ruin the town for you, they are expressing themselves and you should stop whining; yet if you say something, you “ruin” the town for them, making you a scourge on those poor folks.
Yes, I believe that the people who pay the taxes so that there IS a city to enjoy should be allowed to enjoy it.
I see so many people discriminating against the poor, dirty and uneducated. It’s like, here is our precious downtown (really) but you can only come here if you drive a new car and drink the koolaid with the pinky fully extended.
I’m rich and semi retired but I do not have a problem with diversity, I actually think it is what is needed for business and culture to thrive, as long as they are not strung out on drugs creating a public safety risk to others.
But this higher than mighty attitude is sickening to the point that I am not taking my business to some downtown establishments and will not be encouraging others to do so either until the discrimination stops. Live and let live.
Bushfan…that’s the problem….a slice of the diverse group of people downtown Bangor attracts DOES panhandle, try to bum smokes off you and verbally assaults each other and folks that stray into “their space”. I’m glad your rich and semi-retired. In your retirement can you play defense for families with young kids trying to get from the parking garage to the discovery museum without running into a fight in progress or someone who is exercising their “rights” to swear at the top of their lungs for all to hear….sorry if that is discriminating.
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It is absolutely NOT that, actually. I have lived all over the country, which automatically means places more diverse than Bangor. Diversity is truly what makes a community strong and vibrant; illegal activity does the opposite. It must okay for anyone–rich, poor or otherwise–to walk without being accosted. That means it’s okay for the unpriviledged to enjoy public spaces without harrassment…just as anyone else should, too.
You really don’t seem to get it, those goes beyond disversity, this is about the way people, no matter their income, race, age, etc. behave in this area of town and treat the other people in the area. It wouldn’t matter that someone was poor, dirty, uneducated, homeless, etc. if they didn’t harrass or badger others, or use language that is offensive towards others, or generally not accepable around young children.
You said it. Funny how the same people who would tell me these folks darn well should be able to walk anywhere in town don’t mind that there are places where I (and my kids) can’t go.
if they would get jobs then chances are they would not be downtown intimidating people…no loitering and enforce it..
BYE!
4-8, what about after dark???? The bike patrol was on duty well past 8pm.
Seems like the “others” are getting the upper hand on the police with so many programs of the police dept. being cut. Aren’t the hours of 4 to 8 rather slow hours around town? Also with the raising of the hours for liquor consumption and less police presence would make things worse instead of better. Just my humble opinion.
A lot of street youth in Pickering Square, Not a good example for tourist that come to visit the great city of Bangor.
I am just curious, what is the difference having an officer on a bike or on foot? Don’t they already have the bikes?
You read my mind.
The difference is that a cop on a bicycle can cover far more ground and be much more effective than one walking. When I read that, I figured that they don’t have enough guys fit enough to ride the bikes.
True, but it they aren’t fit, they are in danger and shouldn’t be on foot amongst crazies in a high state.
LOL…..Good one..
Now here’s a novel concept- foot patrols downtown! I would have assumed they had been in use all along. And from 4-8pm, with S.E.T. on Thursday nights! I applaud the (weak) effort, but I once spent a summer in Calais doing a 6pm to 2am foot patrol, which was very effective. I was told by several “youngsters” that they never knew where or when I was going to pop up out of nowhere. Park a cruiser take a walk, save gas and get in shape.
Ya….cause Calais is a great comparison to Bangor! Way to support your fellow law enforcment.
This is not good news. I don’t understand why the PD is chronically understaffed, but they need to get a handle on that issue and themselves up to full strength. I’m growing tired of the number of losers in this town and I expect the police to do a better job managing them.
Aging police officer population…multiple officers at, over or are about to be at retirement age…inability to attract qualified applicants for the open and soon to be open positions…low wages compared to other departments…all add up to understaffed and over worked.
Old cops are still cops and should be out on the beat.
I don’t think anyone was saying anything about “old cops” NOT being “out on the beat”.
You said ” I don’t understand why the PD is chronically understaffed, but they
need to get a handle on that issue and themselves up to full strength.”
The answer to that statement is in my post above.
And you said that the reason the PD is chronically understaffed is because the cops are old. Which, of course, makes no sense.
It seems that someone only reads some of the words in posts because I said the following…
1. “Aging police officer population”,
2. “multiple officers at, over or are about to be at retirement age”,
3. “inability to attract qualified applicants for the open and soon to be open positions”,
4. “low wages compared to other departments”, and for those reason to name a few lead to….
“understaffed and over worked”.
So try reading each and every word Bangorian or better yet, talk to a Bangor Police Officer and ask them why they are having problems replacing officers that are retiring. You might learn something about the issues behind the problem
Well said JD. When one throws in lack of constructive management, organization and lack of training resources we get a tough, tough scenario. It really isn’t pretty.
who in their right mind would be a bangor cop, when a couple towns over in an area with very little crime… they can get the same wages, or more. with the same or better benefits.
Let’s invite Heavy Metal bands to the Waterfront, serve alcohol on the sidewalk well past 10:00pm and eliminate the police patrols at 8:00pm – things certainly will improve
There has always been a problem in Pickering Square! I think it is great that you blame concerts and restaurant being open past 10PM instead of the HUGE drug and transient problem we have in Bangor. This has been going on even before the concerts began. They are finally starting to do something about it. Maybe they are starting to do something about it because Bangor actually is starting to see an influx of tourism due to all of the new concerts, restaurants, events, and other attractions that have popped up in the last 2 years!
wrong, the problem in Pickering Square began when they moved the City Bus to the parking garage…that is when the problem began.
I’m sorry that certain Waterfront Concerts aimed at Rock and Metal fans are bringing revenue to your city. I’m assuming you voted against an Arena that could house such events as well?
The Waterfront Concerts are only in their third year of existence. This problem downtown has been going on for much longer than that. Nice try at a failed connection.
Just a thought what about having citizens tour guide types take walks either alone or several of them be present or pop up around the city. These could be another set of eyes to what is taking place they could also have information about Bangor with them and answer questions for tourists and others.
They can become targets themselves, but its not a bad idea. Who’s going to pay for it? If the merchants are doing so well with all of this let them hire some private security and stop whinning. That could be a way to go.
Wow. What great idea’s from the powers that be. Putting an officer downtown in order to discourage fighting, swearing, brawls and public drunkeness is such a good use of resources. Uhhh, what resources. We beter not discriminate. If we put an officer downtown to curb the issues then we better put them where all the other issues are. So the Bangor taxpayer better get ready to pay for about 300 more cops TODAY becasue we know there are tons of problems that a well stationed officer could help discourage on areas such as…
First ST.
Second ST
3rd ST
4th St
Union ST
Ohio St
Dunning Blvd
Maine Ave
Court St.
Division St
Center St.
Under the Joshua Chamberlain bridge (RIP Ralph)
Under 395 (RIP Holly)
Under Kenduskeag ave bridge (RIP Trevor)
Odlin Rd.
Maine ST.
Capehart
Stillwater ave
City forest
Sanford, Sidney, Walter, Essex, Pine, Broadway and on and on and on.
No wonder the Chief and half his tenured crew are saying c-ya. He can’t handle the arrested they have to deal with everyday, not the bad guys, but the ones that are mentally arrested from any clue or reality that are out upstanding citizens that guide our community.
When the City fired Ed Barrett it was to go in a better direction and create some vision. Just exactly what is the vision we have created?
I think it is time to lay out the City’s mission statement and vision. Then we need to lay out the resources we need to accommodate such vision. One would think that is what would have been done but it hasn’t. Once Bangor runs out of police officers, this will not be a very attractive place to live.
At least we have a new auditorium, a casino, concerts, bars downtown and 2,700 people treated daily for methadone. If not for that, how could we possible survive?
I’d rather have 2,700 people being treated with methadone, then have 2,700 opiate addicts not being treated. You think crime is bad now?
Well there is another option, getting out in front of the problem so it doesn’t occur. Better yet, instead of supplying them with methadone for the rest of their life, at our expense, how about a wean off program so they can actually be clean and not dependent on the opiate juice.
But you are correct Bangorian. If the only 2 options were addicts robbing drug stores and homes, mmm, wait, that still exists, or sending people to the 3 methadone clinics for life, the safest option for the public would have to be to just keep them high all day. I guess there is just no breaking the cycle now huh? Doomed are we?
The problem with simple solutions is that they’re easy to invent, and tough to implement. Can you explain how we simply ‘wean’ them off, without there being an explosion in crime? I’d be interested to hear your ideas.
It would require a lot more time then I have right now but Bangorian, I would love to tell you some of my ideas that I have seen work. But July 4th week, I’m on my way to the boat for 3 days. Have a nice 4th.
Fuuny. I think most of our problems live in the cul de sacs, out of public sight.
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Need a Satellite office on First Street. But all will welcome regular foot patrols in the downtown area’s. Should of been happening all along. We were at Shaws on Main Street last Friday and I was approached by two different parties while I was waiting in our vehicle, for money. This needs to be stopped and I’m sure it scares the devil out of the women who are confronted by these folks and all alone. No need of it, as Shaws has camera’s and a watcher. Maybe they need a full time watcher just for the outside of their property, too. A bad situation all around that needs to be cleaned up.
What really needs to be done is these other states need to stop putting their undesirables on a one way ticket to Bangor via bus. And then OUR state welfare office needs to say: “Oh…you came from out of state? Sorry, but we can’t help you out.”
I was one of Maine’s first Mountain Bike Patrol Officers. The reason for the bikes was: (1) Fast response (2) Cover more ground(3) Public relations (4) Healthy. Foot patrol and bike patrol are not exclusive, they are easily combined.
If I worked in the Downtown area I would not be afraid to walk to my car. I would be protected by a concealed weapon called Sig Sauer.
Free stuff food and other stuff attracts vermin, stop putting free stuff out and the vermin will go to another town that is giving out the free stuff.
The concepts that work when it comes to keeping your neighborhood clean work when it comes to people as well.
What they need is an evenglelist with a mic and amp preaching “turn or burn,” with bible in hand, pointing a finger of hellfire and damnation–that’ll clear em out.
The Bangor PD needs Batman and Jim Gordon.
Well there is another option, getting out in front of the problem so it doesn’t occur. Better yet, instead of supplying them with methadone for the rest of their life, at our expense, how about a wean off program so they can actually be clean and not dependent on the opiate juice.
But you are correct Bangorian. If the only 2 options were addicts robbing drug stores and homes, mmm, wait, that still exists, or sending people to the 3 methadone clinics for life, the safest option for the public would have to be to just keep them high all day. I guess there is just no breaking the cycle now huh? Doomed are we?
Walking downtown Bangor is NOT in any way pleasureable…and I’m sure a lot of people feel the same.
A couple summers ago I went downtown with several of the young men from my church to pass out invites to people to come to church. It certainly wasn’t the easiest thing I’ve done, the sad truth is that there are some folks down there that have just fallen on hard times. There was maybe 1 in 10 that were in their situation because they chose to be, and were the ones making rude and crude comments as women walked by. I haven’t been down town lately, and to be honest, I really have no desire to go to the down town area any more because of all of the garbage that is going on these days.
Exactly why I won’t and don’t shop downtown Bangor or anything on Main St.
I honestly dont mean to make light of this. I am far beyond my running days and if I were to have to run to first base now, after years of sports, you would need to call the paramedics immediately. That being said, I realize that we have some younger, in shape officers on the force now. I hope those are the ones used down in this area, because if you couldnt stop their shenanigans on a bicycle, how in the world do ya think your gonna stop them on foot?
Simple-radio !
Calling people (convicted of nothing) “vermin” is the reason I discount much of what people here write. Saying that Bangor’s downtown is scary ignores the fact that it is one of the safest small cities in the USA.
Some folks are just scared of teenagers. Others are scared of crowds. I am scared of people who make judgements about groups of folks without knowing them.
Amen, amen, amen. Well said. It’s ignorance and fear of the unknown really. They lack culture but they are going to get it now.
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Friday night movies. Be there or be square. It’s our city.
So if you have a shortage of police, what difference does a bicycle make? Two on foot or two on bikes is still two??
In my opinion when police decided to go militarized, they lost a lot of respect from the public. I remember when we had police walking the streets of downtown, saying hello and just “being around.” They held a lot of respect in those days and you knew them by name, knew their families. They weren’t there to bust heads, they were there to offer assistance if things got out of hand. Now they are expected to be army, navy, marines, coast guard, bouncer, and social worker.
hold a job fair in the square every day for a week. if that doesnt scare em off, i dont think anything will