BREWER, Maine — A man in his late 60s or 70s was removed from his Tibbetts Street home Tuesday afternoon after police found the dwelling filled with human feces, City Manager Steve Bost said from the scene.
“It’s difficult to even approach the house; it’s that awful,” the city manager said just after 1 p.m. as the homeowner was removed by stretcher.
Firefighters used face masks when they entered the one-story home at 21 Tibbetts St. to retrieve the homeowner.
“We’re taking him to a safer and cleaner environment so he can get some help,” Bost said, adding the man apparently lives alone.
Brewer police Capt. Jason Moffitt and Sgt. Arden Jones went to check on the man after the city got a call from a plumber who was supposed to do repairs. The Bangor Daily News is not identifying him because he has not been charged with a crime.
“We got a call from a plumber who was asked to go in and take care of some issues and he wouldn’t go in,” Bost said. “The house is not habitable. The house is full of raw fecal material. It’s everywhere.”
The homeowner met the police officers out in the front yard and refused to leave even after they asked him not to go back inside the home, which shows no outward signs of problems.
Moffitt and Jones “determined that they didn’t want him to go back inside, but they couldn’t stop him until we condemned the house,” Bost said. “We acted on it immediately.”
When police and an ambulance arrived at the home about 1 p.m., the homeowner did volunteer to be removed, the city manager said. He was taken to an area hospital for observation and Adult Protective Services, a part of the Department of Health and Human Service, also responded.
Assistant health officer Stewart Brooks deemed the home unfit for human habitation, Bost said.



Yep they won’t publish his name but they will publish his address, brilliant! Anyone with half a brain can look up the owner of the house.
Way to go BDN!
I thought the exact same thing!! Wow……..
And they put a photo of his house right in front of their story :( ….Shame on you B.D.N!!!
He may rent and not be the home owner. Maybe he had an unlisted phone.
The article did refer to him as the “homeowner.” I thought the exact same thing as itwasnt…An embarrassment to this man and possibly any family he may have. Just not called for in my opinion. (But I doubt if there was a landlord that he left it there.)
I would like to think that family is probably not in the area. If they are, they should be checking in on this gentleman!
It’s called HIPPA!
HIPAA doesn’t apply in this case. HIPAA is for the medial office/clinic/hospital setting. It is not for firefighter calls, condemned buildings, etc.
If HIPAA did apply here, they wouldn’t be able to give ANY information that may identify the man, including his address or a picture of the house.
It most certainly does because he was taken to the hospital! And firefighters have to abide by HIPPA as well. Don’t know where you got the idea that it doesn’t but you’re so wrong!
HIPAA prevents those who work as a healthcare provider, an emergency medical service provider, medical office personnel, other non-health related employees (cafeteria workers, maintenance personnel, housekeepers, etc) in a health facility, and other people who handle patient accounts (independent accountant who does the hospital’s books) to disclose any information about a patient that may identify the patient.
If you will notice, none of the information given in the article, came from any of those people. The City Manager said that a man was removed, and a house condemned for a specific reason. No information about that person’s health was revealed.
HIPAA was not violated.
I just completed a 16-week long, in-depth course on Medical, Laws and Ethics. That’s how I know the HIPAA laws.
While I don’t have hands on my textbook (published last year, so very up to date) to be able to give you direct quotes, I did a quick internet search on the law. Here is a government run site that has documentation about who is required to comply with HIPAA. Please show me yours that says firefighters are required to comply.
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/summary/index.html
Who is Covered by the Privacy Rule
The Privacy Rule, as
well as all the Administrative Simplification rules, apply to health
plans, health care clearinghouses, and to any health care provider who
transmits health information in electronic form in connection with
transactions for which the Secretary of HHS has adopted standards under
HIPAA (the “covered entities”). For help in determining whether you are covered, use CMS’s decision tool.
Health Plans. Individual and group plans that provide or pay the cost of medical care are covered entities.4
Health plans include health, dental, vision, and prescription drug
insurers, health maintenance organizations (“HMOs”), Medicare, Medicaid,
Medicare+Choice and Medicare supplement insurers, and long-term care
insurers (excluding nursing home fixed-indemnity policies). Health plans
also include employer-sponsored group health plans, government and
church-sponsored health plans, and multi-employer health plans. There
are exceptions—a group health plan with less than 50 participants that
is administered solely by the employer that established and maintains
the plan is not a covered entity. Two types of government-funded
programs are not health plans: (1) those whose principal purpose is not
providing or paying the cost of health care, such as the food stamps
program; and (2) those programs whose principal activity is directly
providing health care, such as a community health center,5 or
the making of grants to fund the direct provision of health care.
Certain types of insurance entities are also not health plans, including
entities providing only workers’ compensation, automobile insurance,
and property and casualty insurance. If an insurance entity has
separable lines of business, one of which is a health plan, the HIPAA
regulations apply to the entity with respect to the health plan line of
business.
Health Care Providers. Every health care
provider, regardless of size, who electronically transmits health
information in connection with certain transactions, is a covered
entity. These transactions include claims, benefit eligibility
inquiries, referral authorization requests, or other transactions for
which HHS has established standards under the HIPAA Transactions Rule.6
Using electronic technology, such as email, does not mean a health care
provider is a covered entity; the transmission must be in connection
with a standard transaction. The Privacy Rule covers a health care
provider whether it electronically transmits these transactions directly
or uses a billing service or other third party to do so on its behalf.
Health care providers include all “providers of services” (e.g.,
institutional providers such as hospitals) and “providers of medical or
health services” (e.g., non-institutional providers such as physicians,
dentists and other practitioners) as defined by Medicare, and any other
person or organization that furnishes, bills, or is paid for health
care.
Health Care Clearinghouses. Health care clearinghouses
are entities that process nonstandard information they receive from
another entity into a standard (i.e., standard format or data content),
or vice versa.7 In most instances, health care clearinghouses
will receive individually identifiable health information only when
they are providing these processing services to a health plan or health
care provider as a business associate. In such instances, only certain
provisions of the Privacy Rule are applicable to the health care
clearinghouse’s uses and disclosures of protected health information.8
Health care clearinghouses include billing services, repricing
companies, community health management information systems, and
value-added networks and switches if these entities perform
clearinghouse functions.
Most Firefighers are now required to be at least an EMT basic so they most certainly are required to comply with HIPAA. Bangor and Brewer firefighters (as well as most cities) each have paremedics and basics responding to calls on the engines. We are required to manually and electronically document and transmit run sheets with every detail of every call we respond to including delivery of any sort of care or intervention, assessment, pt. med history, transfer of care, consent, ect.
How you could’ve taken a ” 16 week long, in depth course on Medical Laws and Ethics” and not comprehend that most FFs ARE considered healthcare providers that provide Pre-Hospital care to the patient, therefore a “covered entity” is beyond me.
Yes, I did think of the Firefighter/EMT crossover after posting.
I work nights, and had just woken up when posting. I’m human, as you are, and things slip my mind. It doesn’t mean you need to berate me for it.
I work 24 hrs shifts as well as nights and tired or not, you had time to post the longest response in the entire thread so…
And I’m not berating you, but you cant expect to post misinformation on a public message board and not be called out. Especially when you demand cited proof while proclaiming to have superior knowlegde on the subject because you took a 4mo course.
Bottom line, plenty of Firefighters have completed several years of college, served in the armed forces and taken several national registry exams to deliver pre-hospital care. To suggest they’re not healthcare providers covered under HIPAA is false.
I’m sure the information was gathered through PRCC or who ever dispatched the fire dept to that address. That is public record. Anyone that has a scanner can hear the addresses of where police, fire and ambulances are sent. They also can hear the ambulance calling the hospital and giving info about the patient to the ER. Anything broadcast on the airwaves is public information….
Correct. Adding, we never use a person full name and we do try to keep report as brief as possible.
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No, it’s called HIPAA. And as the other commenter said, it doesn’t apply here.
Wrong!
Wow that was convincing. Just wrong (no way to back that up?) No there isn’t a way because HIPAA does not apply in this instance at all!!! If you can point out how you think this has anything todo w ith HIPAA I would love to hear it???
The Bangor Daily News does not need to abide by any patients’ rights laws, as the paper is not a health care provider.
It’s a public warning not to go inside.
How sad. But a man in his 60’s or 70’s is not really “elderly”!
No elderly? I beg to differ!! Believe me that is elderly! Some people are in better shape at that age then others but still elderly..
not. I am in my 60’s and sorry sweetie, but I am definately NOT elderly!
I’m with you—Must be a really young one to come up with that remark!–I can probably still run circles around some of the younger ones!!–And I hope this person gets some help and especially gets cleaned up!–If there are neighbors around, surely they must have smelled that rotten stench.—And I do hope that pavint46 does understand that their turn is coming??-There will be a mind change when they get there!
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I am sorry, but i would treat you a as an elder. When you needed to pick something up, in my presents, I would insist I did it, though I know that you are capable, I would carry the weight. And I want to know what my elders have to teach me, I really do. You have earned respect, and you have mine.
finally someone who thinks the right way. To many are disrespectful to the elderly.
There’s a difference between disrespect and viewing one as incompetent. If I am 70 years old and want to lift and carry a heavy box (because I will be able to as I plan to continue to go to the gym and take care of myself), I will be HIGHLY insulted if I was not “allowed” to do it myself. Though your actions are caring and respectful in nature, remember that elders do not want to be viewed as feeble or dependent on others. It’s right up there with being baby-talked to or being called sweetie or honey by a 20-something. I think your attitude is commendable, but remember that the elderly body is still housing a very alert and younger-thinking mind. :)
Right on. I’m 65 and consider myself to be middle aged… assuming I’ll live to be 130 years old.
I sure am not elderly at 74 I ran on the treadmill at the gym yesterday for twenty minutes and didn’t even break a sweat.
Good for you!
My take on the word “elderly” is that (according to the dictionary) the term simply means “past middle age.”
I think what a lot of us are responding to is the negative connotations that have been tacked onto the term. Some people equate old age with infirmity! You and I know that’s not accurate, but the term still sounds like a slur sometimes.
Which means that “elderly” begins at 39, since the average age of death in the USA is 76.5.
I think people just equate the word ‘elderly’ with ‘old’. And that’s a scary word!! haha
And I’ve taken care of people in their 40s who would qualify for the status of elderly with their mile-long medical problem list who can barely walk or breath. They look like they’ve been put through the ringer-well aged beyond their years. Sad. Age is just a number and if I can be as physically fit as that 74 year old man (and I plan on it!), I sure don’t want to be called elderly!!
I disagree as well. But I can tell you that I found out while researching my dads will nearly 20 years ago, that Maine statutes define elderly as anyone 60 years of age or older. It didn’t seem quite as alarming 20 years ago; today, staring down the barrel at 50, it has a different significance for me.
if your in your teens and 20’s you still think 60’s elderly~but then again the word elderly just means past 60 I guess,,
Way past 60…..closer to 80.
Hell, in my teens, I thought 40 was elderly!! Not thinking that so much anymore the closer I get!
You must still be on the sunny side of 20. Wait till you’re closing in on 60.
Haha! Look at all the old folks coming out of the wood work to say that they’re not elderly.
:)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/elderly
Merriam Webster says after middle-age. Pretty sure we don’t live to be 120, folks!
Ha Ha look at the “younger folks” coming out of the woodwork to pretend it won’t happen to them.
I dont think anyone is pretending they wont age. Just pointing out the obvious denial….and believe me, I’m no spring chicken either. I’m just not insulted or offended by the term “elderly” especially when it obviously applies.
andwhat are you? 14?
The definition of “elderly” can begin at 55 but hey, you’re only as young as you feel!
I would refer to anyone over 70 years old as “elderly” but I suppose it’s all relative.
I prefer to be considered part of the AARP set.
With a Senior discount! LOL
At 30 it sure as hell seems elderly.
what on earth is the definition of elderly then?
Most people associate the word “elderly” with fragile and feeble,,I guess if they are not,then maybe they’re just “older” or senior?
Poor guy…..wonder where is family is? Hope he’s ok.
Much appreciation to the plumber who notified authorities!!!! I hope this elderly gent gets the care he needs.
yes way to go plummer. wonder why he called you? wonder if pipes busted and crap went everywhere?
Someone must have known what was going on, shame on his family. I hope this man finds himself in a peaceful, safe situation.
Maybe he doesn’t have any family.
Hey, My septic backed up into my basement. When? Heck if I know! I never go down there.
But when I did, what a mess. Thank God I was able to call a repair guy that attended to the job at hand and didn’t mess with where my kids live and when I last talked with them and what color their stripes are.
Well, IT happens.
60 may make you an elder but not elderly…
Very sad. Although 70-ish may not be considered “old” any more, people may be affected by mental health issues such as dementia which can begin slowly and progress gradually enough to go unnoticed until a situation becomes severe. It could happen to any one of us….
Good work on the City of Brewer’s part, for getting this poor soul the help he needs.
What is wrong with people that this has gone unnoticed for this long? There must be neighbors, pedestrians, bikers…someone that would have smelled it. Thank God the plumber and the city have done something. Now this man can get the help that he needs.
Not my business.. bye.
That’s the attitude!
I think Tibbetts might be a dead end street. That would eliminate much for passers-by, and our current culture is one of “Mind your own business”…situations can get out of control quickly. Hoping for a good outcome for this man, who has obviously been suffering.
It is a dead end street and a very quiet one. I actually lived next door to this house for a year and never noticed anything unusual, yard was always mowed, house appeared clean from the outside and we occasionally saw a gentleman in the garage working. And when I lived next door to him, about a year and a half ago, no smell. Didn’t seem strange at all.
The guy is in his 60s or 70s and living in a house full of fecal matter, elderly or not he certainly has some form of dementia that probably was brought on by age
Possibly. But there can be other causes. I recall maybe 20 years ago a woman in my area in the same situation turned out to have had a slow-growing brain tumor. She became reclusive and didn’t seek help, just slowly adapted. Her house had to be levelled, too.
How about drug or alcohol abuse? Addiction can leave a person giving little care about their physical well-being.
After working for a rent to own company for several years, I can PROMISE YOU that there are MANY houses in this area that need to be condemned just because people don’t care about their living conditions. There have been several places I have been in that you just didn’t want to go in without some sort of biohazard suit on, AND we weren’t given the opportunity to have that. “Just do your bleeping job and deliver the merchandise, I don’t care if you’re gonna get sick going in there.” True story..
Interesting how everyone is arguing about the definition of “elderly” instead of considering how someone ends up wallowing in a house full of feces. That’s pretty sad people.
Obviously this is a person who is not thinking clearly, and probably should have had some sort of help before his house had to be condemned.
With the weather recently, I’m surprised the you know what didn’t hit the fan sooner.
Man, I would not want to be on the crew that has to tear that place down. I wonder if it’s far enough from the neighbors’ that the fire department can safely burn it.
‘Condemned’ doen’t necessarily mean it has to be demolished; just that it’s not fit/safe for habitation. After the gawdawful job of clean up and repairs, a certificate of occupancy permit is usually issued.
So noted. Permit me to rephrase the comment:
Man, I would not want to be on the crew that has to clean that place up. I wonder if it’s far enough from the neighbors’ that the fire department can safely burn it.
:)
There was a documentary on Nat Geo(?) following a crew that did just that: From animal hoarders to crime scenes to where bodies had lain unnoticed for weeks. Informative, but WOW! :)
I wish the best for him.
It sounds as if the man called a plumber to repair a problem. Is it possible that there was some sort of septic backup that overflowed into the home due to the recent torrential rains we have had?
People are assuming that the person spread feces around his own home, and while that may be true, it could also be that he had something break or overflow and it isn’t his fault at all…
Good point. I’m sure most people didn’t think of that at all. I know I didn’t!
I am not so sure the publicity was needed in this matter however the man will get the help he needs. Now that it has been made known, what if we all got together and helped out our neighbor. I am sure a local cleaning company could do wonders in that home and the Gentleman could return home after all is said and done. Any takers?
how sad a story. Hope the poor guy gets the help he obviously needs.
wonder if this man had public water and sewer? maybe the twn shut him off due to lack of payment. if they did wouldn’t that raise a red flag for the town? wonder if anyone making these nasty coments has ever had a sewer problem and had a backed-up sewer line bust inside i have and i will tell you from experience that crap goes everywhere this is probaby why this poor guy called the plummer. now this poor guy who might have had to wait till he got paid to get the work done is gonna lose his house and his dignity way to go town officials and media. hope carm doesn’t come back to bite you all in the arse actually i hope it does
I think is is awesome that this man has gotten help but think it is horrible that this is in the paper. Let this man live the rest of his life with some dignity!
My heart goes out to this man…I am glad he will be getting the help he needs….obviously no one has bothered with him for a long time. I am thankful the plumber took the steps to get him some help.
There will be more of this as people make bad choices in thier early lives and expect someone to take care of them when they get older.Where is is Obama care?
Its now shameful to be elderly and possibly mentally ill? Shame on anyone who actually holds this ignorant mindset!
They should condemn houses that are covered in animal feces as well…
I have to enter a lot of them for my job, some of them are so bad the ammonia stings my eyes.
I don’t understand how people can live like that.
How terribly sad that this poor man doesnt have anyone in his life that would have discovered this long before it got to this point.. Well wishes for his mental and physical recovery.
the big thing is neighbors and people dont care. people dont check on their fellow neighbors just to be friendly. people like him are ignored in society . i know that first hand. my neighbors never say hello to me they keep to themselves. this man i guess didnt have family that cared enough to check on him. he needed help it was only when it became a sanitation and a health issue that someone took notice. people dont look out for their neighbors that is too bad
Exactly! Like the commenter above who said “not my problem” when someone asked why no one had reported this sooner. It’s why domestic abuse continues, animal neglect, child abuse. No one wants to get involved because hey, it doesn’t involve me!
That’s what happens when the government takes responsibility for everyone… Nobody takes responsibility for themselves or their neighbors anymore. Its pretty simple, really.
No one here knows what the circumstances of this are yet. So many have jumped to conclusions and made some incredibly horrible assumptions.
Perhaps this man had as one poster pointed out a plumbing issue.
Perhaps this man has a mental or health crisis and needs help.
Perhaps people should stop making such outrageous assumptions…….
the saddest part his family didnt care . i know first hand how that is. i have a sister and brother that dont care
his family should have checked up on him . i have a family sister and brother who dont care franky it hurts