Lies, damned lies and statistics

In a recent Saturday morning address, Gov. LePage made reference to this witty phrase that was popularized and misconstrued by Mark Twain. While far from the most egregious remark ever made by our esteemed governor, it is interesting and insightful to consider the contrast between the originally intended meaning of the phrase and the implications of LePage’s usage.

The original remark is attributed to Baron Courtney (1895), and the full quote is “After all, facts are facts, and although we quote one to another with a chuckle the words of the Wise Statesman, ‘Lies — damned lies — and statistics,’ still there are some easy figures

[that] the simplest must understand and the astutest cannot wriggle out of.” In this context, it appears that “damned lies” is intended to emphasize “lies” and that “statistics” is offered as a contrast.

Demagoguery is nothing new. Today, as was also true in 1895, there are politicians who are willing to say anything to support an ideological position, regardless of whether these statements can be supported by facts. Statistics, in the broadest sense, are the facts and figures that reflect the true state of the world, the economy and the environment around us. They aid our understanding of the world and should be used to guide reasoned decision-making. We may chuckle at his witticisms, but do we really want to be governed by an individual who displays outright disdain for facts? Or perhaps we should prefer a less colorful but more astute official who bases decisions not on ideology but on the reality that the statistics reflect.

Gary A. Churchill, Ph.D.

Bar Harbor

Help our neighbor

It’s time for all of us in Maine to step forward and help our fellow community of Brownville. The rain they got last week has devastated their town in many, many ways.

We all can help by contributing money to their town office directly or through fund drives or even yard sales. Brownville needs our help, let’s step forward and help them through this terrible time.

Doug Pooler

Dexter

Roberts salute

A salute to Chief Justice John Roberts, who, in spite of being a conservative Republican, realizes that it is time for the U.S.A. to join the rest of the civilized world in providing the opportunity for health insurance for all. While Justice Roberts doesn’t agree with President Obama, he found a way to get it done. Currently ranked somewhere around 21st in the world in public health, this court action will allow us to slowly care for the most vulnerable of our population and, eventually (10 years out), actually lower health care costs.

Maine, on the other hand, will financially suffer, short-term. For the $400,000 that the governor and attorney general spent fighting this benefit and for the cost of reinstituting all those MaineCare benefits that were unwisely dialed back.

Ken Huhn

Bangor

Times have changed

Three cheers to Michael Socolow for his timely June 27, OpEd concerning misguided priorities in the Bangor public schools. It’s astonishing how parents, school boards and other community stakeholders desire to direct so much attention and resources to athletics to the potential detriment of maximizing learning and other nonathletic enrichment opportunities for students.

I’m probably a dinosaur with regard to having a deep understanding for today’s social/cultural attitudes and passion for athletics. When I was in high school on Long Island, N.Y., in the ’50s, parents attended choir, band, and drama performances to the same degree they showed up at sporting events. Our football field was terrible, and in spite of that, the truly gifted players went on to succeed in college and professional sports. Our high school graduated individuals who forged outstanding science, engineering, business, medical and performing arts careers. There was a balanced perspective, appreciation and support for both the student athlete and nonathlete. Parents did not attempt to interfere with the decisions made by school-appointed personnel over the fact that their child would not be a starting running back or the first chair in the clarinet section.

It’s important to have a safe athletic environment, and money invested in that direction indeed has value. With Maine’s economic viability at stake, it seems paramount to also utilize external resources that become available to optimize the education of our students and provide appropriate extracurricular outlets that will best prepare them for the additional training and social skills necessary to become productive members of the state’s work force.

G. Lansing Blackshaw

Belfast

Dumbfounded

Recently the Center for Public Integrity released its most current report on corruption and accountability in all 50 states. Using a rubric made up of 330 metrics and condensed into 14 categories, the center examined issues concerning accountability and ethics in each state government. The states were given grades from A to F. I couldn’t wait to see the list of the most corrupt state governments. I figured that New Jersey, California and Connecticut would probably be at the top of the list. Then I found that they weren’t even on the list.

I was shocked and dumbfounded to see that according to this report, the State of Maine was No. 5 on the list of the most corrupt state governments. Maine received F grades in nine of the 14 measured categories, including legislative accountability, lobbying disclosure and public access to information. Overall grade is 56%; public access to information … F; legislative accountability … F; political financing … D+; ethics enforcement agencies … F.

According to the report, there is no law in place to force Democratic state Sen. Jim Brannigan to disclose that the organization he was a director of received $98 million in Maine government contracts. On Feb. 1, Republican state Rep. David R. Burns was arrested for violating campaign finance laws such as falsifying records and misusing funds.

Maine is a small state. There is no reason that we can’t get to know who our representatives are. During this election cycle, let’s find out who these folks are who pass laws that govern all aspects of our lives.

Rev. Gerald Oleson

Bangor

Candidate wealth

Regarding the wealth of candidates: If you want to use wealth as a measuring stick, disregarding intelligence, ability, compassion and successes, then kick out the present elected officials that abound with wealth.

Angus King is a successful, caring, intelligent and savvy individual. There are good people in this political arena and he is top-shelf, classy and a whole lot smarter.

Dale Hayward

Rockland

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34 Comments

  1. Gary A. Churchill, Ph.D., I seem to recall one subject that could have lies and statistics involved with Governor LePage. Just to beat a dead horse, The Mural. I believe that the Gov. has used at least 3 maybe 4 different explanations as to why he had the Mural removed. The way I figure it that leaves either 2 or 3 lies. Maybe all of them are lies. How can we statistically figure this one out if we don’t have a factual proven truth? Or is the Governor batting 1000 in the lie department?

    1. I stand with the governor on the mural removal. With some people, however, no amount of explanation is ever sufficient once they have made up their minds. The governor offered several explanations when one by itself should have been enough on an issue of little importance to Mainers mainly concerned about the fragile state of the economy. You seem to imply the explanations were mutually exclusive of each other and therefore lies. I saw a coherency throughout all his explanations. But then again, I don’t think you and a relatively small minority of Mainers – bent on putting the governor down from the get-go and agreeing with you – ever will.

      1. So you think it’s OK for the Governor to give several different explanations to a simple question? I know he is the one who opened this paticular can of worms, all by himself. That in itself should meant that he gets to set the rules. But when he comes up with all these different reasons to the simple question, what are rationoal people to conclude? I’m thinking that either one of the answers is the truth or all of them are lies.

  2. Gerald: DEAD ON!!!! Mainers (and Americans in general) have far too long fallen for partisan foolishness dished out by Rs and Ds…Both groups are quick to point out the dastardly behavior of members of the other party but either ignore or outright justify the dastardly behavior of the members of the party they support. 

    Hey Ds and Rs…ask yourselves…JUST EXACTLY WHAT HAS YOUR STATE SENATOR OR REPRESENTATIVE DONE FOR YOU (other than stir up partisan anger and make all sorts of chest-thumping speeches and empty promises)?

    Then ask yourself…WHY DO BOTH GROUPS KEEP SUPPORTING THESE BUFFOONS and disliking with psychotic venom everyday people who just as blindly support the other party???? Wake up folks, these party “leaders” do nothing for you other than get you riled up to hate other people whose party “leaders” have them riles up as well.

    STOP!!!!

    1. Right on takeback…

      It has gotten to the point these days that it doesn’t matter if they call themselves Rep or Dem, Lib or Con, Red or Blue.  They all seem to be the same wolf, that simply wears the sheep suit that gets them into office.

      The current election system is a farce.  We only get to vote for the candidates that someone else chooses for us.

      Yeah, its definitely time for change.  Its time for We The People to stop being we the sheeple.

      1. What’s wrong with a comparison of the two political heads if it helps to shed light on the issue?

          1. I agree, it was a poor comparison. Obama will never be the good leader LePage is. Just substitute “contrast” for “comparison” in my prior reply.

        1. you are grasping at straws to show your disdain for Obama, but he has nothing to do with this. 

          1.  Demagoguery is the topic is it not?  Or perhaps it is as the writer says “we should prefer a less colorful but more astute official who bases decisions not on ideology”

            That fits Obama on any number of levels.

  3. Rev. Gerald OlesonThis is the price that Mainers pay for 40 years of Democratic control and cronyism

      1. Exactly, it all starts with a vision. Go tea party. Romney in ’12. Back to the constitution!

    1. A worthy sentiment, but unlikely given the choice we have in the coming election.  Obamacare legally (though unlawfully) FORCES citizens to buy a service they may not want.  And if you say no then you will be penaliz..er TAXED for not bowing to this abuse of power.  What about those who simply cannot afford this oh so marvelous “gift” of healthcare?

      This does not make healthcare available.  As I said it FORCES everyone to BUY it.  It’s not right and it most certainly is NOT the American way.  Or to put it another way.  “It’s Available and if you don’t buy, we’ll take your money anyway and you can’t stop it.”

      You want to “make healthcare available” to everyone?  Then get out of Afghanistan and 80% of the 260+ foreign bases we maintain worldwide and spend the money on true “Public Healthcare” that is available as a basic right for every tax paying citizen and stop forcing us to BUY it.

      The other day a few folks were going on about “social medicine, well that’s what America was SUPPOSED to be going after.  We took a very wrong turn somewhere along the path.  Either the president didn’t get the memo or he just doesn’t care what we want.

      1. I see your point, but it’s hard to denounce a policy that makes people take responsibility for their own health. It’s certainly not a D or an R issue as both Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama support it.

      2. Yeah, I aint taking no socialized medicine and I am not paying a stinkin’ tax even though my kid has cancer and we can’t get treatment for him. Go Romney!

  4. Gerald Oleson,  I believe you are misinterpreting the study on state integrity.   The reports states that Maine is in a group of states that have  a very high potential risk of corruption in state government. The study does not say that Maine  is the 5th most corrupt state in the union.   What the study did was to look state laws that help maintain integrity by thwarting corruption.  We are missing some of those laws. Just because those laws are not in place does not mean that people have taken advantage of the situation to make our state corrupt.   Yes we need to change some laws so we are more transparent, communicate better, etc. to insure the integrity of our state government.  ………. but we are not a crime ridden cesspool of corruption.    Please read the whole study and try to understand what it is saying.

    1. Correct, msally.  We may not be as corrupt as Gerald suggests, but when we look at our scores, we see the risk is very high.  If we do nothing to address these risks, we very well could become “a crime ridden cesspool of corruption.”

      Public
      Access to Information          F

      Executive
      Accountability                 F

      Judicial
      Accountability                    D+

      State
      Civil Service Management      F

      Internal
      Auditing                             A

      State
      Pension Fund Management     F

      State
      Insurance Commissions           F

      Political
      Financing                           D+

      Legislative
      Accountability               F

      State
      Budget Processes                    D+

      Procurement                                     C-

      Lobbying
      Disclosure                        F

      Ethics
      Enforcement Agencies         F

      Redistricting                                     F
       

      1. Making more unwarranted rules and regulations is not the answer. Monitoring for corruption to ensure a proper balance between the need for more regulations and small government is more advisable than creating a larger and perhaps a less responsive bureaucracy.

    2. Here’s one point where you and I are in total agreement. It shows me you have taken a good gander at the study and understood its true implications. As always there are always some people who will misquote or misrepresent a source to get a point across, as Gerald Oleson did.

  5. Gary shall we all assume you are upset with all of Obamas lies and total disreguard for the facts also????

    1. “…lies and total disreguard for the facts…”    Hahaha.  Total disregard?  Exagerate much?  You in your armchair have a total grasp of all facts but the president of our free democracy does not and the ones he does grasp, he ignores totally.  Hahaha.  Another Limbaughism overstatement swallowed whole hog.  Just common sense would tell you that you are way overstating a position that does not make you seem very credible.

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