Dear Prudence,
My husband is kind, supportive, funny, generous, smart, and loving. However, I feel like I must divorce him. Six years ago, when we were in our early 20s and had just fallen in love, after a night of partying and drinking, he woke me up in the middle of the night and started to have sex with me. I was dozing and still drunk and, yes, I took my panties off myself. But when I realized that it was not OK for him to make advances on me in my state, I pushed him away and ran out.
He later felt so bad he wanted to turn himself in for rape. I was very confused and thought at times that I was overreacting and at others that I was raped. We painfully worked through this, but the incident made my husband very reluctant about having sex. This led to an agreement that he shouldn’t be afraid of coming close to me in similar situations as long as he asked my consent. This made us feel better and I felt secure again. However, we just found ourselves in a very similar situation.
After coming back from a friend’s wine tasting we went to bed and he started to kiss me. I liked it and went along, only to wake up in the morning and remember only half of it. Now I am in the same painful spot I was before and I can’t fathom how he could have ignored our agreement. Should I just drop it or am I right about feeling abused?
—Confused
Dear Confused,
I understand the need for colleges to have unambiguous codes of sexual conduct for their young, horny, possibly plastered students. These often require getting explicit permission for every escalating advance. However, if two adults are in love and have frequently made love then each can assume implicit consent to throw such legalistic caution—as well as panties—to the wind. Certainly spouses are entitled to say, “Not tonight” or “Not there,” and have such a request respected. But even a married couple who have had sex hundreds of times can enjoy that alcohol might ignite a delightful, spontaneous encounter.
Your approach, however, seems to be to treat your sex life as if it is subject to regulatory review by the Department of Health and Human Services. Your prim, punctilious, punitive style has me admiring your put-upon husband’s ability to even get it up, given the possibility he’ll be accused of rape — or turn himself in for it! — if one of you fails a breathalyzer test. Living in terror that expressing one’s perfectly normal sexual desire could end one’s marriage, and freedom, is itself a form of abuse. Stop acting like a parody of a gender-studies course catalog and start acting like a loving wife.
If you can’t, then give the poor sap a divorce.
—Prudie
Dear Prudence,
I will be attending a family vacation in August with my parents, brothers and sisters-in-law. The last time everyone was together, I was upset by the way my mother treated my sister-in-law Amy. Amy is one of my best friends. She is supportive, loving and kind. She is also overweight and loud, which mother can’t stand. Mother makes faces when Amy talks and very obviously refuses to sit next to Amy during meals. She also bad-mouths Amy when she leaves the room. I don’t want to have to watch this again. What is the loving way to handle this situation?
— Joy of Family
Dear Joy,
Amy must pack a big supply of sunblock and Xanax in anticipation of her fun annual vacation. Or maybe she just says, “I’ll have a double.” It’s time for you to talk to your mother about this. Say not everyone in every family is crazy about each other, and you know she doesn’t care for Amy. That, however, should be her little secret. Unfortunately, it has become increasingly obvious how much she loathes her daughter-in-law. Explain that Amy is one of your closest friends, you feel lucky your brother is married to her, and you don’t want to see or hear any more disparagement from her. Tell your mother she may not be aware she’s making faces when Amy talks, but she needs to cut it out.
Add that you won’t listen to her disparage Amy when she’s not in the room. Then act. If your mother starts eye-rolling when Amy gets going, pull her aside later and say it’s making you uncomfortable. If she starts denigrating Amy, leave the room. You should also enlist your brother to make these points to your mother. If he’s not standing up for his wife, shame on him. He’s the one who supplied this trial of a mother-in-law, so he should bear some burden for trying to reform her.
— Prudie
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Wow “confused” your a messed up woman
Actually Confused, in addition to your marriage problems, it would seem that you may also have a problem with alcohol.
Dear Confused, Either quit drinking or be prepared to lose your kind, supportive, funny, generous, and loving husband.
Dear Joy, Tell your loud friend Amy that she may want to tone it down when she’s around your mother.
Joy, you should invite Confused and her husband over when Amy comes to visit. While your mother is busy making faces at Confused, you and Amy can push enough drinks on the husband to get him frisky. Have fun!
Most women believe they’re abuse victims, not realizing how abusive they are! I’m surprised he didn’t divorce her already! Talk about a narcissistic prude!
So if I got drunk and was hitting on a woman, I’m a pervert, but if she’s drunk too and decides to sleep with me, then I’m a rapist as well? Riiiiiight, the old “if you don’t remember it, then it wasn’t your fault”, excuse. Are we really going to set the precedent that intoxicated people are not responsible for their actions?
Actually I think the law is that if a person is intoxicated they are not able to consent. I could be wrong….but when you are discussing a married couple…wow, she has huge issues and needs to grow up!
When it comes to signing a contract or something of that nature, I’d agree with you. The problem I have with the notion of not being legally able to consent when they’re intoxicated is that it says to me that, if you’re drunk/high, then you’re not responsible for your actions. If that person is literally unconscious, that’s one thing, but a sober person “hooking up” with someone who isn’t, while morally questionable, is a far cry from being a rapist.
TMI … for goodness sake get over yourself!
Confused, that must be a wig, you have to be blond.
The photo is of the columnist, NOT the person writing the letter.
Dear Confused: Back in the 1960/s drunken and stoned sex were the usual forms. As a matter of fact, inebriated intimacy has been ubiquitous to the human condition since the advent of fermentation. New rules that conflict with human nature are doomed to fail. Society does not need another broken marriage. Hang in there baby!
“Confused” have another drink and call me in the morning.
Confused has me totally perplexed. I cannot believe this woman is genuine, or that the story is genuine, but I will assume it is. The husband should be rushing to a divorce lawyer and getting out of that so-called marriage, this woman does not want sex and is determined to blame her husband of rape, the guy will end up in jail. Find another woman and enjoy a healthy sexual life with her.
You’d have a weird sex life too if you had to have a lawyer watching you the whole time.
Dear Husband of Confused,
How many warning shots are you going to let this chick fire before you get accused of Rape?
Run like Hell!
let me get this straight,you are married?he touches you after drinking and you fit out?i would have to say lay off the sauce!!i personally think maybe you both need councling or aa!lol
I wonder HOW MANY GUYS she has accused of raping her? She sounds dangerous to me. STAY AWAY!!!!
Getting trashed and having sex with your husband doesn’t mean you were taken advantage of. Either stop pretending you’re some kind of victim, or lay off the booze (both would be preferable). If you really need some perspective, go talk to an actual rape victim.
Best reply.
BDN guidelines: “Stick to writing about the stories; be civil; be kind; enlighten your neighbors. And we’ll keep moderating posts to try to ensure everyone meets those standards.”
These mean-spirited, intensely pandering, ‘Prudence’ columns fail the BDN guidelines on all counts. And, to defend nonconsensual relations, (yes, rape), even condne it, would get any poster banned from the site, for joking about tragedies, although the marked absence of humor is astonishing. What one is offered is mean-spirited, belittling, sexist, and cruel.
And, note the overwhelming support by readers for marriage-rape, further illustrating exactly why ‘Prudence’ should not be on the BDN, but, moreover, how much work the BDN staff needs to do to educate readers about abuse. This is nauseating to read.
‘Prudcence’ needs to stay on the Slate site, if anywhere. Consider these columns flagged.
please explain to me how if both parties became intoxicated together, then engaged in intercourse together with both parties consenting that upon waking up this becomes a case of marriage marriage-rape. Perhaps if one makes bad decisions when intoxicated and in this case the same bad decision repeatedly, one should avoid becoming intoxicated.
Thank you, MagT. These “prudence” columns also confirm what I’ve long suspected about the BDN’s copy desk. It doesn’t exist. Surely no one reads this stuff prior to publication.
And….exactly WHY did you read it??????
Normally, I would not respond to a question like yours, but I’ll make this exception.
Prior to jumpng to jumping to conclusions before filing compaints that this ‘Prudence’ feature was continuing it’s vile approach, it had to be read; just as it is important to be aware of what the public is being fed, and what it accepts, generally.
In one sense, you are correct in that the header alone was sufficient cause to file a complaint.
I hope that for the sake to that “poor sap” that “confused” files for divorce tomorrow!
Take this stupid trash out of the BDN
Simple: Breath activated chastity belt.
Oh for crying out loud!!!! What nonsense!!!
May I accomplish first base? um huh? Wha? oh wa yeah. (close enough) May I accomplish second base? Hahahaha…….k Are you guys serious? Where do you get this stuff??? Who keeps the paperwork?
She sounds like she needs to go to AA for her alcohol addiction.
You mean there really are women out there that will get a divorce over this? OMG.