BELFAST, Maine — Some Primrose Hill residents are fighting back against a Frankfort woman’s proposal to create a preschool and day care center in one of the historic homes in their Belfast neighborhood.

Iris Hooper has a contract to purchase the white-columned home on High Street known as the Admiral Pratt House, which was built in 1812. If her plans and requests for licenses are approved by entities that include the Belfast Planning Board, the Maine Department of Health and Human Services and the city fire marshal, the Children’s Voice Preschool could be up and running as soon as late fall.

She is seeking licensure for 40 children, and said that the school will include a focus on gardening, art and the history of the home and the area.

“It will be a very unique preschool,” Hooper said last week. “My preschool will aim to build community for the Belfast area and build citizenship.”

But those intentions ring hollow for Terrance Smith and Beth Anne Gordley-Smith, who live next door to the property. They said that the Pratt House is a historic property, but is nonetheless “defenseless” against a use which they argue is inappropriate at best and destructive at worst.

“The property is historically significant,” Terrance Smith said. “And it’s going to really be, in my opinion, in jeopardy of destruction. That’s something I don’t want to see.”

He spoke against the project at a recent Belfast Planning Board public hearing. He and his wife have two teenage children, and said that they understand from personal experience that the big downtown houses are expensive to heat and maintain. Nonetheless, they believe there will be a groundswell of support from people who love old historic homes and wish to see them preserved.

“We have a jewel in this community,” Smith said of the Pratt House.

The preschool is in the initial stages of permitting, according to Belfast Assistant City Planner James Francomano. He said that Hooper needs to address questions about motor vehicle and pedestrian circulation on the site, which might be resolved by making the driveway exit on Waldo Avenue, behind the home. Other issues which need resolution include stormwater, sediment and drainage control.

“We obviously respect that somebody is trying to open a business,” he said. “We will not be the reason that things slow down.”

Francomano said that the city anticipates seeing a more formal design proposal from Hooper at the Aug. 8 Belfast Planning Board meeting. There will be another public hearing at that meeting.

The house sits on an acre and a half of property, and was most recently valued by the city at over half a million dollars. It was built by Ralph Cross Johnson, a young Belfast merchant who became the first elected mayor of Belfast in 1853. A Johnson descendant married Adm. William V. Pratt, who served as Chief of Naval Operations beginning in 1930. The Federal-style home remained in the same family until the 1980s, according to Megan Pinette of the Belfast Historical Society.

It even survived a roof fire caused by a direct lightning strike in the 1980s, she said Thursday morning.

“It is a beautiful house,” Pinette said. “It is one of the finest houses in Belfast.”

The home is part of the Belfast Historic District, which is recognized — but not protected by — the National Register of Historic Places. There are nearly 300 houses and other structures within that district, according to Pinette.

Smith said that he has met this week with Francomano and attorneys, to look into what kind of options neighbors might have.

He said that adding a driveway between Waldo Avenue and High Street could potentially cause flooding for neighboring properties. He also is worried that Hooper intends to rip out some of the existing gardens and landscaping to put down blacktop and a playground, meaning that some of the structural and historic integrity could be lost.

“Having 40 children aged two to four in a historic property that’s 200 years old — it would be a disaster, in my opinion,” Smith said. “And the attorneys today said that they could paint it pink, purple and green and nothing could be done to protect the home.”

The neighbors are all opposed to the preschool project, he said.

“I just don’t want this to be confrontational,” Smith said. “[But] we speak for the dead — the people who built these homes.”

But Hooper said concerned neighbors might not have a full understanding of the proposed preschool. She said that she has a lot of experience, having worked with Head Start for nearly 30 years, and also has a degree in early childhood education. She wanted to open her school right in Belfast, and was interested in the Pratt House in part because it has so much land.

“For me, it’s an exciting opportunity,” she said. “I don’t think always that young children are given enough credit for what we can do for them. I think the neighbors are concerned that it’s too beautiful for kids, and that really has offended me.”

She said that she understands that change is hard, and wants neighbors to know she respects their thoughts.

“I will address concerns,” she said. “I want to make this a very pleasant part of the neighborhood.”

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  1. Anyone who knows Iris Hooper knows this will be a well, respectfully run pre-school.  Iris does not have a disrespectful bone in her body.  I also understand the concerns…the integrity of the building/property is very important to the town,… very big part of Belfast history.  Also, who really wants 40 kids running around right next door.   Maybe there is a better suited house/buiding in town better suited for the same goal?  That being a well a run pre-school/daycare.  

    1. “Who really wants 40 kids running around right next door?”  Obviously, not the snobby people who live in this neighborhood!  Oh, but it’s okay to have a 40-kid daycare in someone elses neighborhood.  C’mon people!  It’s a house that has survived for 200 years!  Certainly a daycare, operated by a seemingly educated, qualified woman, is no threat to this structure.  In fact, the “dead people” who built it may have loved the idea of small children romping and playing in the house.

      1. the not in my backyard mentality! I love it. Maybe we can put the day care in the lower class neighborhood, afterall the children are likely all on state aid! Why do people think they have say in everything!

  2. The neighbors sound like the type my coworker has. 

    They routinely yell at his kids because they make noise when they play in their own backyard.

    1. I have a neighbor like that.  She hates kids.  Personally, I think this sounds like a fantastic day care center and is going to be extremely beneficial for the children.  And, if the neighbors don’t like it, they can certainly purchase the property themselves and make it whatever they darn well please.

  3. If these neighbors want the say and control over this house and property then they should come together to purchase it themselves……otherwise, if not against any ordinance which prohibits what the planned buyer wants to do, then go for it…..IMHO…..

    1. Once again a few people, (can I perhaps guess from away), are barking about someone who wants to open a business which is needed and also employ a few folks who need a job.  I didn’t think Belfast was getting as bad as Camden but the NIMBY attitude seems to be alive and well.  Speaking for “the dead” is not needed in this instance folks, they most certainly don’t care and will not know what is happening. They don’t have a say over a piece of private property and neither should these neighbors.
       

      1. 357 hiram, you hit it right on the head. People don;t want anything to change their neighborhood and are willing to tell everyone else what to do with their property. If the house is so important to them then buy it and seal it off. Lord forbid we have a business that will employ people, pay taxes and offer children a great place to go. It’s not a land dill, not a pig farm it is a day care…

      2. Yeah like neighoring towns oposing Searsport’s tanks, neighbors telling neighbors what to do.

    2. BIG “Like”!!  Anyway, I bet the dead would rather have a preschool in their old home than Belfast’s 200th art gallery. 

  4. Have the neighbors even tried talking to Ms Hooper yet? It sounds like this pre school will be wonderful, and it doesn’t sound like she has plans to paint the building pink. I agree with the other poster – if they want it to stay the same, they should fork over the $500,000 – otherwise bugger off. I’d rather have a pre school next to me than cantankerous old todders anyway.

  5. Also, ‘We speak for the dead’? They’re dead. They had their say – when they were alive.

  6. It always amazes me how people who have no financial stake in something think they can decide the best use by the owners!   If you want to preserve, restrict, or other wise control the use of a property – buy it!   Otherwise keep your nose in you own backyard.

  7. Sounds like this house is historically significant and should remain as a strictly historical site.  Good luck.

    1. Then be prepared to pony up some dough.  Those who want to preserve it as a strictly historical site are as welcome as the daycare lady to buy the place and maintain it. 

      1.  I simply said this house should be a historical site and good luck. I don’t live near it.
        It would be a shame to let it’s historical significance be destroyed. Can’t imagine what 40 kids will do to the woodwork.

        1. The problem is, is that the opposition to this daycare is based on assumption. She hasn’t even formally laid out the plans she has in mind yet.

           Besides, if she buys the property, she should be allowed to do what she pleases with it, historical or not.

        2. Woodwork built in those days with that kind of craftsmanship will probably stand up to 40 generations of kids.  I was born and raised and live within 5 miles of this house. It has always been a fine old house, one of many in town. Nothing special to it…not a museum, not shared with the public. Just a private home to admire from afar. Not my business then what it was used for, or now.

      1. Sure they can I imagine. It’s still a shame to make such a beautiful place into a daycare. Again 40 kids would be hard on the woodwork.

        1. So what? If my kids ruin the woodwork in the house that I worked, bought and paid for, what business is it of my neighbors? This home, according to the article, is not protected under any historical society. It’s none of the neighbor’s business what these folks do with the home they worked for, bought and paid for.

          1. I was simply voicing my opinions, as were you.  You’re just as entitled to yours as I am mine, or anyone else on here, right?  Why post your opinions if they aren’t up for discussion (especially on a discussion board?)

        2. how do you know? You’re making assumptions that this woman is going to let the kids destroy the house! You don’t know.

  8. If the owner of this house bought the house via private sale, then legally she can do whatever she wants to the house. She has the deed, it’s her right as the property owner.  She could bulldoze it if she wanted. If the town wants to make it a historic landmark then the town should have bought it and kept the upkeep of it, increasing their taxes, and then they would be complaining about that too! 

    1. if Belfast has the same deal as Rockland when it comes to historical districts, no she can’t do what ever she wants with it. We wanted to tear down the garage at my Mother’s house, and the city of Rockland said we couldn’t because it’s in the historical district. 

      1. The article stated it was registered as historic in the registry, but not protected as historic.  I wonder what the case was with your garage?  

      2. generally historic properties cannot be altered from their original appearance on the outside in a historic district. Restrictions are tighter if grants were received from the Department of INterior for historic preservation purposes.

  9. I see it as absolutely none of their business what someone does with property theyve purchased. If you dont like it then MOVE. Preferably back out of state where they all came from.

  10. Wow- since when do your nosy neighbors get to dictate what you get to do in your house and your land?? So long as it conforms to local zoning in Belfast I’d say to the nosy neighbors ‘nun ya’ –  as in it’s nun of your business.

  11. Definitely a cool old house.  I hope the kids love it.  Pretty sure the owner will teach them to respect the property.  It’ll be good for the kids.

  12. Pretentiousness is alive and well in Belfast I see.  I wonder how they’d feel if she bought the house and then set about barging over next door to theirs demanding that they paint it a different color and get rid of something that may damage it.

    If there are no laws being broken, and unless they intend to pay what I’m sure is the hefty tax bill for the property, they should probably attend to their own business and leave it alone.  What goes around comes around after all.

  13. Well there’s a very simple solutions, neighbors, BUY the house yourself and preserve it’s natural beauty the way YOU want to.  Otherwise, get over it!  What on earth makes you feel entitled to tell someone what they can and can’t do with the property THEY are purchasing as long as they are not breaking any laws and go through the proper licensing process?

  14. Thats belfast for you. They dont want any business there unless its selling beads and patchouli.

  15. The ratio of staff to children is strictly regulated by the state. So – exactly HOW MANY jobs do the neighbors want to toss out of Belfast in the interest of leaving this building empty? Not to mention the quantities of school supplies and consumables that this lady’s business will BUY – almost certainly in Belfast?

  16. What better use could there possibly be for a lovely historical home than to fill it with the laughter and cultural education of children. Just asking.

  17. i live next to a daycare
    every morning starting at 5am til 9am…i have to listen to vehicles dropping off kids:

    40 kids =40 vehicles   times 2 times a day=80 times a day…..times 5 days a week

    doors opening and slamming, opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming,  , opening and slamming,   , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,    , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,   , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,   , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, 

    then 3pm-6pm it repeats:

    doors opening and slamming, opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming, 
    , opening and slamming,  , opening and slamming,   , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,    , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,   , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,   , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming, , opening and slamming,

    1. So can we surmise you don’t have a job like those 40 parents who are dropping off their children (or perhaps you work the midnight shift?)  You guys crack me up- you p*ss and moan about people ‘on the system’ then b*tch about the people who actually work and need to use day care.   Hilarious.

    2. Then move, or offer them an enormous price and maybe they’ll sell out to you so you can do what you want with that property.  Or, you could purchase a very large 40-acre parcel of land, put your home in the middle of it and you’ll never have to worry about your neighbors again.

    3. At least the kids aren’t old enough to use fire-works yet…..just imagine doors opening and slamming, bang, doors opening and slamming, bang, doors opening and, well just imagine it….

    4. Great point, Motorcyle!    Increased traffic/early AM traffic/noise problems from a pre-school will not allow neighbors in ANY neighborhood to enjoy their property in peace.  Don’t zoning laws keep “business” away from residential neighborhoods?  Or, is the Pratt House on the main drag?  If it is, then the neighbors should have known of the possibility of historic homes being used for commercial purposes.

    5. Everytime I go to Belfast I have to listen to people who can’t sign signing on the street, I have to deal with belly dancers dancing down the street, violin players & guitar player doing their thing, over aged hippies protesting on the streettrying to relive the 1960s, I have to deal with the ugly boat yard on the waterfront, I have to deal with the people who smoke throwing their cigarettes on the street, the traffic from the Celtic festival, the ugly stumps made into park benches, the walking trails through backyards, Bicycles peddling down narrow roads……what is your point? why should they be denied the use of their property? If you don’t want to deal with it move to the County and buy 200 acres! That is what I’m going to do.

  18. Sounds like Dr.  Smith uses up all his compassion at Waldo County General Hospital, when he gets home he doesn’t want to deal with the “Great Unwashed”!

  19. What about lead paint in the building and on the grounds.  Old houses have lots of lead in them which affect children. How will it be removed and will it involve removing all the historic woodwork which will destroy the historic fabric of the house? Removing lead paint is very costly. I would think a newer building would be better all around.

      1. yeah, they only allow hippies, greenies, granolas and out of Staters who want to create another Camden. LOL, if you want to bring jobs or growth get out! Oh and don’t let the smoke from your restaurant intefere with the beauty!

    1. wel if they all eat lead the neighbor won’t have to worry about the noise! Part of the permitting process will include testing and remediation.

  20. How about the neighbors pool their resources and buy the property? Then they’ll have legal standing to make decisions on what will happen to the building, the grounds and gardens.  Otherwise, as long as the proposed business is within local zoning ordinances and laws, the neighbors should practice MYOB and leave the current owner in peace.

  21. Here’s an idea.  Don’t like the Day Care Center?  Go volunteer at it helping little ones learn how to read and write and you can keep an eye on them at the same time to make sure they don’t destroy the woodwork :)  You’ll be contributing to society and to your own cause.  Brilliant, heh?

  22. At least someone has constructive plans to do something with this property! So many “beautiful, historic” buildings in Maine sit idle and rot because no one can agree what to do or afford to heat them. 

  23. This a perfect case of mind your own business! It sounds like the woman with the intention to purchase the property has an appreciation for it! And i would say that a woman with the means to purchase such property with the intentions of providing educational tools to children is probably not your enemy! Now if she wanted a bar or a strip club! I would have to agree!  I have neighbor who likes to complain about kids toys and noise….she should move next to these people!

  24. Another example of the ignorant retired masses from away living  in Belfast & Searsport. Nice try to hide behind the historic nature of the proeprty. Would you rather have the house remain vacant? The woman apparently wants to preserve the history of the area and contribute to the community. She even states her mission is to educate children about the hosue. Belfast is becoming a “Disneyland” as someone commented at a recent City meeting. Walking trails costing millions, no tanks, no day cares, ugly benches n the streets, people playing on the streets with their cases open for change! Yippeee. A new restaurant for barbaque opened and someone complaiend about the smoke from the grills! Go away, if you want Camden move there. These people are assuming this woman is going to ruin the house. I can’t wait to move away from BElfast. Let these ignorant fools take over. It is unfortunate as I grew up in Belfast.

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