AUGUSTA, Maine — Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s choice of Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to be his running mate elicited one of the most tepid responses in recent history, according to the Gallup polling service.

In a one-day Gallup poll conducted Sunday, more Americans characterized Ryan’s addition to the GOP ticket as “only fair or poor” than “excellent or pretty good.” Forty-two percent of those polled called the choice “only fair or poor.” Thirty-nine percent deemed it “excellent or pretty good.” Of the 1,006 adults polled for the USA Today/Gallup survey, 19 percent offered no opinion.

Only George H.W. Bush’s choice of Indiana Sen. Dan Quayle as his vice presidential nominee in 1988 garnered a higher negative response in immediate polling, according to Gallup. Initial polling in response to Quayle’s selection showed 52 percent of those polled rated him “only fair or poor” as a vice presidential nominee. However, the positive response to Quayle — 44 percent — was higher than Ryan’s.

Four years ago, then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, GOP presidential nominee John McCain’s choice as running mate, drew a 46 percent “positive or pretty good” rating and a 37 percent “only fair or poor” response.

Vice President Joe Biden, who is expected to remain on the ticket as President Barack Obama seeks re-election, generated an initial response of 47 percent “excellent or pretty good” to 33 percent “only fair or poor.”

Dating back to 1988, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry’s pick of then-Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina scored the highest positive rating at 64 percent. Quayle drew the highest negative polling figure, followed now by Ryan.

A strong majority — 66 percent — of those polled say that Ryan’s selection won’t affect how they vote in November. Of those who might be affected by the choice, 17 percent said they are more likely to vote for a Romney-Ryan ticket while 12 percent said the choice made them less inclined to cast ballots for the Republican standard bearers.

Only 23 percent of those who identified themselves as independent voters told pollsters that they have a favorable impression of Ryan. Seventeen percent shared an unfavorable rating, and 41 percent fell into the “never heard of him” category. The remaining 21 percent offered no opinion of him.

With a separate Gallup survey showing higher interest in the election among Republicans than Democrats nationally, the GOP can find positives in the fact that 39 percent of Republicans at this point consider Ryan to be an “excellent” choice. “That compares with 34 percent of Republicans calling Sarah Palin an excellent choice in August 2008 and 18 percent rating Dick Cheney excellent in July 2000,” Lydia Saad wrote for Gallup.

Initial reaction from Maine’s political establishment to Ryan’s selection broke expectedly along party lines. Republicans praised him. Democrats ripped him. Most political observers place Maine squarely in Obama’s corner. Palin visited Maine fairly late in the 2008 campaign, but Obama and Biden carried the state.

This year, both campaigns seem far more focused on neighboring New Hampshire, which went for Obama in 2008 but is considered a critical swing state this year, after voters there in 2010 demonstrated a sharp swing to the right in giving Republicans significant majorities in both chambers of the Legislature. The Obama campaign on Monday announced that the president intends to visit New Hampshire on Saturday. It will mark his fourth visit to the Granite State within the past year. First lady Michelle Obama and Biden also have stumped in New Hampshire recently.

“It is often noted that Americans vote for president, not vice president, so it is unclear how much views of Ryan will matter come Nov. 6,” Saad wrote. “George H.W. Bush won handily in 1988 despite voters’ significant doubts about Quayle; and John Kerry and Bob Dole both lost despite the initially warm public reactions to their respective running mates, Edwards and Kemp.”

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  1. Paul Ryan is a great man. He is young, energetic and would like to live in a country for a while that isn’t owned by China. He has a budget, a plan and perhaps now a chance. I’m not a big supporter of Romney for President but Paul Ryan on the ticket gets them my vote.

    1. He has been in Congress  most of his adult life and has been spending America’s money as if he is paying off prostitutes.  We owe China because of him and all his spending.  He is part of the problem and with Romney they are nothing more then McCain and Palin.  They will lose. :)

      1. BO and JB are a bigger problem than Romney and Ryan.  $5 trillion borrowed in 3.5 years..  Much bigger

        1. Zzzzzzzzz…. Turn off the Fox “News,” put down the remote, and step away from the couch. Reality awaits you.

          1. I could have sworn that LP’s went out of style, but I envision a broken record each time I see your name here.  Getting a little monotonous…

          2. Can’t say it enough, Dirigoschmuck. When is the last time you, or any of these other hateful posters, went without watching television for a week? for a month?  It’s only going to get worse in the weeks to come, and their minds will polluted at an unprecedented fill-rate.  Turn off your TV. Go outside. Talk to people who don’t agree 100% with everything you think and say. Grow as a person. Get a global perspective. It can’t be said enough.

        2. Sorry, Ryan and Congress spent the money.  Ryan can run but he cannot hide from his $5 trillion in borrowed money. 

      2. Funny.  “Paying off Prostitutes.”  The former President Bill Clinton (D) Arkansas was paying off prostitutes.  “We owe China because of him…?”  At this point, I think “Apple” owns China or a.k.a. iChina.  As a hack, Liberal (D) can you explain the “freepass” Apple receives for 0% of the factory jobs located in the United States?  Why “Apple” pays minimal domestic taxes, but every (D) Liberal hack buys their over-priced useless junk made in factory where there are suicide nets in place.  Flippin’ suicide nets!

    2. Bushy — Sure hope you have no not-wealthy senior citizens or college-aged children in your life because the Hon. Mr. Ryan’s vision is to disown and disembowel them. And for your sake, I hope you have no woman or girl in your life whom you love, for Mr. Romney’s plans would demean, demote, and disempower them.  I, for one, am not filled with the hatred of the unendowed that you and your fellow Romney voters apparently are.  If you were to watch no television for the next three months, and instead read five newspapers daily from around the country and world, do you think that would make any difference to your perspective — thinking for yourself vs. getting force-fed tripe by unencumbered super PACs?

      ………………………

      “Most voters know little about Mr. Ryan. Those who have heard of him are probably most familiar with his Medicare plan, which would turn the program into a voucher system that would pay beneficiaries a fixed amount for their medical care, leaving them on their own if the voucher did not cover their costs.

      This notion so alarmed the public last year that Mr. Ryan was forced to backtrack and leave the existing Medicare system as an option. Even so, the plan would leave older Americans on average with $6,400 in extra costs by 2022, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

      Even less familiar to voters are Mr. Ryan’s plans for the rest of the federal budget, which if anything are worse than his Medicare proposal. By cutting $6 trillion from federal spending over the next 10 years, he would eliminate or slash so many programs that the federal government would be unrecognizable. That has long been a goal of the Tea Party ideologues who support Mr. Ryan fervently, but it is not one shared by anywhere near a majority of Americans.

      More than three-fifths of the cuts proposed by Mr. Ryan come from programs for low-income Americans. These cuts are so severe that the nation’s Catholic bishops protested the proposal as failing to meet society’s moral obligations, saying the plans “will hurt hungry children, poor families, vulnerable seniors…”

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/opinion/the-romney-ryan-plan-for-america.html

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      1. Ryan is blamed for the $500 billion cut in Medicare,but it is Obama who plans to cut more than that from Medicare as written in Obamacare. OhOh…no(bama) wants to talk and do nothing, but gets accolades for pushing this country to the brink of disaster.He’s hoping for his national socialistic change,comrade.

      2.  All those programs you wish to continue at Obama funding levels are pushing this country to economic collapse.  The spending is unsustainable,

        The real choice is accept painful cuts now or stand by until the system collapses and no one gets anything.

        Actually, I vote with you to continue spending like a drunken sailor.  The only way progressives like you will ever learn reality is when the system crashes and REAL hardship  falls on everyone.  While Romney and Ryan have the right idea I doubt they will be able to change anything that really matters.  The gutless cowards in Congress have the real control of the spending and they have based their careers on pandering to various groups and buying votes with deficit spending.

  2. Well, the guy has been in Congress for most of his adult life and has had 2 bills passed.  One named a Post Office, the other one changed the excise tax rate on arrows (as in bow and arrow).  But hey, at least if we pass his budget plan, Mitt Romney would pay 0% in taxes….so…he has that going for him!

    1. I doubt you would vote for hime regardless of his political stance and record. He has an “R” after his name.

      1. He had his chance and blew it when he opened his racist mouth.  Ryan is the biggest mistake this country ever had, except of course Mitt Romney! ;)

      2. Everything I wrote is 100% accurate.  If someone with a D next to their name had done these things, or championed these ideas, I would not vote for them either.  I don’t believe in returning to the nineteenth century and I will vote for anyone from any party that fights for the middle class.

        1. The problem is the middle class as defined by BO is anyone that is dependent on the government for their needs.  The D’s do not want personal responsibility they want the government to be responsible for you.   Paul Ryan has put forth a reasonable attempt to curb the growth of government and entitlements.

          1. Not true at all.  Not a single thing that President Obama has done reflex what you are saying.  You have created a cartoon of him that makes you feel good, but it does not reflect reality at all.

          2.  Total and complete garbage. Obama’s massive expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare does exactly that. The goal is to soak the middle class for our money so it can be redistributed as “free” health care, food stamps and other entitlements to the “poor,” which is defined as anyone who decides to sit home on their butts and rip off the hardworking taxpayer.

          3. Yes…Yes that the goal…pfffff.  Eye roll.

            Nope, the goal is to avoid things like this:
            One of President Ronald Reagan’s important achievements, protecting spouses from impoverishment under Medicaid, would be gutted under the plans of Gov. Mitt Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

            Perhaps the greatest fear facing senior citizens and their children is that they will be stricken with a long-term illness that will destroy all of their savings. This is still a concern today, but it was a much greater concern 30 years ago until President Ronald Reagan stepped up to protect spouses from impoverishment. Now, the two Republicans atop the presidential ticket in 2012 want to gut those protections.

          4. Dad, turn off your Fox “News,” put down the remote, and step slowly away from the couch. That should help dissipate so much of the “me vs. them” negativity that so plagues you, and which obscures from you the facts.

          5. Senator John Kerry (D) of MA. made his fortune the “Old Fashion Way.”  He married very wealthy women that had large amounts of cash from their previous ex-husbands “Trust Funds.”  Also, the State of RI has provided John Kerry with such a sweet-heart honey of a tax break on his “Mega-Luxury Ocean Liner.” 

            “Lizzy” Warren (D) of MA. identified herself as a “Native American” on her Harvard Law School application so she could get a honey position as a Harvard Law Professor.  What a Hack?  Also, her great-grandfather “Led The Charge” sending the Native Americans packing on the “Trail of Tears.”

            John Edwards (D):  May He Rest In Shame!  Truly one of the most disgraced politicians.

            President Obama (D):   “I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” —at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon, May 9, 2008.

            “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009Change.  Yes Please!

          6. Well, I guess I am middle class, and I do depend on roads,schools,  police, fire, etc.  Only the mega-mega-mega rich can hire out al lthese services.  I’m fairly sure you could not, if you’re like most people around this region. 

        2. We should never look back at our history and let that be the foundation for making future decisions.  Looking back at the 19th Century, (1801-1900), only provided useable electricity, steel and petroleum products.  Also, the invention of the lightbuld, telephone, typewriter and sewing machine.  It was one of the most dynamic centuries of The United States of America.  A time in our country when our citizens were brave and not afraid of failing, brushing-off and trying again.  Unlike our sterile, “everybody wins,” predictable “current-self” of a nation.  Because of the political shift and the perennial loser (D)’s blocking the advancement of our Nation our best invention is “Facebook?”  Reason, nobody who is young and brillant wants to pursue medicine or science because loser trial attorneys like John Edwards (D) are lurking for the moment to sue for a “malpractice” that is simply a ponsi scheme.  Imagine a Mark Z. living in a 19th century United States.  The Horror.

          1. completely untrue — typical conservative , yearning for the days of the robber barons– well thanks to republican policies we are almost back there– you talk about education? its the conservatives that want only the wealthy to be able to afford to send thier kids to college.
            you can’t be as foolish as you post. you’re almost as foolish as liar lepage

          2.  Science and any intellectual achievement have been demonized by the bible belters.Conservatism,specifically from the murderous religious right is the cancer of this country.The sooner we excise and throw away the cancer,the sooner America makes progress and the Singaporeans, etc stop eating our lunch.

          3. Don’t forget Labor Unions.  That great chapter of american history was also founded in that same era!

    2. If we do as you wish and get rid of the Bush tax cut.  The top bracket will go back to 39% from 35%.  How much more would a person like Romney pay in taxes?   Your hatred and this administrations hatred for the rich is the reason this country is at a stand still.  Until you understand that the rich is the answer to turning this country around, don’t expect any significant improvement.  

      1. Yes!  Going back to Clinton era taxes on the rich would ruin us!  Screw history!  Let us all bow down on both knees, open our mouths and beg for the trickle down! 

        1. Clinton era?
          Seems that in the “Clinton era” someone else got “down on both knees and opened their mouth”…remember that?
          Seems strange that someone could look directly into the camera and lie, then lie to a grand jury, yet still no perjury charges. How can anyone ever be prosecuted for perjury again?

          1. it was no ones business  what went on except the 3 involved –it was a witch hunt that didn’t work– didn’t your boy nixon look into a camera and say he wasn’t a thief?

        2. until you and this administration understand that we need the rich to get us out of this mess, things won’t get any better.  You can keep demonizeing and punishing the rich and corporations all you want but the last I checked, the poor aren’t doing any of the hiring.  

          1. Ok, so the Bush tax cuts have been going stong for a long, long time now, which begs the question. Where are the jobs?

        1. I’m not close to being rich.  You can’t keep going after success, the rich and corporations without addressing the underlying issue of why you need their tax revenue.  The rich wouldn’t mind paying more taxes if the money was spent wisely.  You can tax the rich at 100% tomorrow and next year the government will still need more money to survive.  We need to get this economy turned around so that we can create jobs and increase the number of employees paying income taxes.  You’re not going to get job creation by demonizing and trying to punish the people that create the jobs.

          1. This is the best post I have read on this site in 3 years!!! And from Glenburn too!!! Wow!!! Just kidding.

            By the way, I can tell by your post that you might not be rich now but I bet you will be someday. With a thought process like yours, one that gets it, believes in capitalism and loves thier country…you keep posting, I’ll keep reading. Do you mind telling me what industry your occupation is in?

          2. I’m an RN trying to get ahead in life but it’s getting difficult with the mentality of some of these people.  I kind of missed my calling and I should have been in business but why in the hell should I invest my time and money in a business to get punished when I finally do succeed.  

          3. whine whine whine– no one is punishing anyone. but before you change careers you better understand its DEMAND  that drives the economy and not tax cuts– no demand- no economy and with no middle class there is no demand—

          4. and you don’t have more demand until people have jobs.  so you better tell these poor and middle class people to start hiring so the demand increases.

          5. That’s sad. But you should have planned better. At least that’s what republicans will tell you.
            RN’s get paid a lot, I know one who is making over 70K a year. It’s hard to be happy making that sort of money isn’t it? No one wants to punish you, just pay your share.

          6. how’s that poor planning.  I make 70k a year and i assume I probably support your lazy a** with the share that I do pay.  I put myself through college working 30-40 hours a week and I have idiots like you after the little bit of money I do make.

          7. I am also an RN, but I don’t complain about paying my fair share of taxes. You really should do yourself a favor and get out of Nursing.  You appear clueless about the (bleak) future of healthcare – not due to the Affordable Care Act, but due to the past 30+ years of accelerating greed by Insurers, coupled with drastic annual cuts in Government reimbursements.       

            You keep stating that the poor don’t create jobs, when your job relies heavily upon servicing the poor.  Perhaps that is what your resentment is all about.  I pity any patient under your care who does not have private insurance.      

          8. An RN is one of the biggest growth careers in the next few decades.You are right about ins cos.There is NO reason why a CEO of an ins. co. gets $Millions when never helping a patient.Thanks for all you do.

          9.  One of my first jobs was for a guy who owned or had an interest in close to a dozen businesses.He knew everyone’s name,treated people well and when he passed away hundreds of people stood in pouring rain to pay him tribute.After that I worked for a grasping greedy mean man who died at his desk screaming at a customer.Nobody showed up for him.
            I agree with you that EVERYBODY thinks some money is spent unwisely.Conservatives think Planned Parenthood is a waste,liberals think a billion dollar bomber is a waste.Yet in some way we need them both.

        1. People get rich by creating a product or service that other people value so much they are willing to pay for it. So almost by definition, the rich have benefitted your life by selling you things that make you happy. That is, unless the rich we’re talking about are the union bosses who steal money out of workers’ paychecks involuntarily or the owners of “green companies” like Solyndra who donate to Democrats and then get huge “grants” from Obama made up of confiscated taxpayer money, then promptly go bankrupt and run off with the cash in their pockets.

  3. How does having a plan that allows folks like Mitt Romney to pay 0% in taxes help fix our debt issues?  He voted for both unfunded wars, he voted for the un-paid for Bush tax cuts, he voted for the unfunded Medicare Part D.  This is not a deficit hawk, this is an economic elitist.  Nothing more.

    1. Raising the taxes that your president wants to will only fund the government for 8 days.  Thats right 8 days, rolling back the bush tax cuts raises $80 billion in taxes, the government is spending $10 billion a day.  How about we cut that $80 billion and lets say another 1 trillion while we are at it and only spend what we take in.  What a novel idea, spending with ion our means.

      1. Your comment is great but the libs will hate it. They also hate hard work and success. If they aren’t getting something for nothing, they don’t think it’s fair. Disgusting.

        1. “Hate” sure is a big and commonly used word in your vocabulary, Bushie. Ever think to investigate where all this hatred in your being comes from?  …Just asking.

          1. Can you explain the Democrats position of “social fairness” regarding the wealthy?  Senator Harry Reid (D) from NV has had only one professional job in his lifetime.  Being a (D) hack Senator making $107,000 per year.  Mr. Reid’s net worth is over $7 million dollars.  How does an individual raising three (3) kids, making $107,000 per year since 1987 earn a net worth of $7 million dollars?  If you are a hack (D) and would really like know, Mr. Reid was involved in a Real Estate Scam in the State of NV, (with some individuals from New York), that had gambling ties.  The scandal was so deep that when Mr. Reid’s son ran for local office in the State of NV he requested his father to “distance himself” from his campaign.  You hacks!

          2. Reid pales in comparison to Paul Ryan as he increased his net worth by 75% in his ten years in office!

            Ryans’s net worth is about 8 million dollars and the very day that Congress Voted for the Bank Bailout Ryan the orchestrating Chairmen of the Budget Committe Dumped a Ton of Bank Money in his Wall Street Portfoilo!

          3. Yay!  Most politicians are crooked without regard to whether they are perceived as right wing, left wing or other.  

          4. We’ll never know how Romney made all his money because he won’t release his tax returns. We just have to “trust ‘ him that he pays taxes at all!
            I’m waiting to hear tell us that he will run a “open and transparent” administration if he is elected.

          5. not true you could easily find out how he made his money.. and when you do you will  be silent on that topic… the conversation you are trying to have that includes transparency is , again, foolish, unless you include your idol and hero.. you know that one that promised he would change Washington.. and Americans would see all bill on line before they voted on them.. oh and of course he sealed all of his records.. wonder what he is hiding.. did you ever wonder ?>

          6. If he didn’t have much to hide then he wouldn’t be hiding his returns. He paid less taxes than the average working American.

          7. not true the number of ways for Romney to conceal how he made his money are numerous. His tax return issue will not go away until he releases the information, further I consider the Obama administration to be the reason we did not have a depression, the reason we are in recovery, and the reason Osama Bin Ladin is dead.  Oh and why we have healthcare for more Americans, quite an accomplishment in only four years.

          8. When will Obama become open and transparent,  matter of fact when will he have his next press conference?

          9. No, but I as any competent, licensed psychotherapist could do, can explain, or at least offer up some suggestions, why you, ConservativeSW, feel so victimized by people who think differently than you do and why you feel 61% of the world is aligned against you.  Have you considered  speaking with one of us, one-on-one?

          10. How can you declare yourself as a component psychotherapist? How can you determine a professional clinical assessment? Odd. Again, the traditional Liberal Hacks inability to answer a question about their Marxist party. You Hack!

          11. CSW, I am sorry that life is so difficult for you and the world is such a hostile place for you; and sorry, also, for those around you who are subject to all that hatred and “otherness” you exude. Good luck with the name-calling against, and marginalizing of, the so many people whom you perceive to be your oppressors and enemies. I don’t know what part of Massachusetts you’re originally from, but I am saddened if I am forced to regard you as a fellow Mainer. Now settle back down into that BaracaLounger you got at Marden’s and crank up the volume on your Fox “News.” Deep breaths.  You’ll feel better and thank me for being someone you can comfortably regard as one of your many perceived enemies.

          12. You are truly an awful psychotherapist, and should strongly consider a career change. How can you simply state that I victim of oppression? Also, how can you give me the wag-of-the finger of being tolerant? You are declaring I am a recliner sitting, Fox watching bigot. Shame on you! For the record, I am not from MA. Horrible insight. You hack!

          1. Yes.  All Liberal (D)’s are hacks!  Sen. John Kerry (D) MA. “making-up” combat war stories of Vietnam and putting those lies in a book.  Liberal hack (D)’s can be summarized with the following:  “If you believe a lie to be true.  It is not a lie.”  Al Gore and his hyper-vigilant stance on “Global Warming.”  This hack (D) has a “Global Footprint” so big that powering his three mansions cost over $100,000 per month!  What a hack! 

          2. Don’t blame you. Taking a walk is the smart response. There’s no way a reasonable person can match those toxic brain droppings.

          3. Oh and don’t forget Hillary supposedly landing “under heavy fire” in a helicopter…LOL.
            Turned out to be a lie. Her husband never lies either….right? 

          4. Although Barack Obama may not have been particularly social or memorable during his years at Columbia, it isn’t true that “no one ever came forward from Obama’s past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc.” Those who have attested to having daily personal experience with him during his time at that school include: Friend and roommate Sohale Siddiqi, whom the Associated Press located and interviewed in May 2008.

            Roommate Phil Boerner, who provided his recollections of sharing a New York City apartment with classmate Barack Obama to the Columbia College Today alumni publication and the New York Times in early 2009.

            Michael L. Baron, who taught the year-long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Barack Obama took during his senior year at Columbia and recalled in an NBC interview Obama’s “easily acing” the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.Likewise, other external evidence documents Barack Obama’s presence at Columbia from 1981-83, including: An article by Barack Obama published in the 10 March 1983 edition of Columbia’s Sundial school magazine.

            A January 2005 Columbia College Today profile of Barack Obama as a Columbia alumnus.

            A Columbia College press release from November 2008 identifying him as “the first College alumnus to be elected President of the United States.”Finally, the fatal flaw in the “Obama didn’t go to Columbia” theory is that he couldn’t have been admitted to Harvard Law School in 1988 without having received an undergraduate degree. If he wasn’t attending Columbia from 1981-83, he would have had to complete two full years’ worth of coursework at (and graduate from) some other accredited college — yet his time between the end of his Columbia days in 1983 and his entering Harvard Law in 1988 is accounted for (working at the Business International Corporation and the New York Public Interest Research Group, then serving as director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago), and no other school claims him as an alumnus, nor does anyone purport to have encountered him as a classmate or student at any other college or university during that period. Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp#TGJGzFxD1Ukpm1vd.99

          5. got your tin foil hat on , laddie?  now tell me who collected the reward for remembering where bush claimed he was— ooopps  no one ever came forward to collect the 10k

          6.  I would like to know if any of Obama’s professors even remember him. 

            That one is even harder to find out since all of Obama’s records are secret.

          7. you are right to some degree.. someone did come forward and said that they did remember Obama at Columbia.. but after further questioning and closer investigation, it turns out that this source did not go to that school..but remembers him anyway.. kinda how most things work with obama.. one mystery after another .. but here is a bigger mystery… how is it that anyone in america could think that Obama has done a good job ? things are indeed worse now than when he took office.. and we are in debt right up to our eyeballs, shovel ready, not so ready..the costs of any jobs created is $ 316,000.00 each…the unemployment rate was around 4.5 % in 08.. it’s over 8 now and the real rate including those who stopped looking and some who are under employed is in the neighborhood of 23%…….we are in more wars than before.. he broke every campaign promise that he made,,, he passed a smoke and mirror health care plan that will bankrupt the country and provide lousy service at three times the cost..nice..so what is it you libs are voting for ? 

          8. The link only has statements from 1 individual who claims to have lived in an apartment with Obama.

            It does link to another email from a woman claiming Obama played soccer with him on the front lawn. But her story is questionable when later she made this statement ” see the school environment that is uniquely CU — it is the same as when I studied there: hundreds of us sitting on the library steps doing school work on laptops.” You see, there were no useable laptops at that time. A few devices that were nothing more than toys were all that existed even in 83.

            There is another link to a leftist story Obama is supposed to have written. That indicates he actually was there. Doesn’t prove he actually attended classes or anything else.

          9. The banner referred to the aircraft carrier’s specific mission, headbone. Your pals in the media blew it waaaay out of proportion.

          10. No it wasn’t. He proclaimed mission accomplished and it wasn’t.
            He lied. I know what the banner said, revisionist history is so popular with the right.

          11. no one ever collected the reward for remembering bush was where he claimed to be.
            Randy Cunningham,  $1.3-million bribesBob Ney – briberyTom DeLay – money launderingLewis Libby – perjury obstructionSteven Griles,  obstructionJack Abramoff – felony X3Leandro Aragoncillo – espionageSteve Rosen – criminal conspiracyMichael Mixon – supporting terroristsJohn Cowdery – conspiracy briberyBrent Wilkes – briberyKyle Foggo – CorruptionLarry Craig – disorderly conductClaude Allen – TheftChris Newton – briberyThomas Noe – Theft, corruption, money laundering, forgery and tamperingMark Siljander – money laundering, conspiracy and obstructionJames Tobin – phone jammingBernadette Noe, RobberyRick Renzi – Theft fraudBernie Kerik – fraud, tax evasion, obstruction, falsifying documentsMerle Temple – fraud money launderingThomas Ravenel – cocaine possessionGeorge Ryan – 18x corruptionDennis Gallagher – Sex crimesGlenn Murphy Jr – Sexual assaultLeonard Owens – RapeRonald Kline – child pornographyMax Knapp – child exploitationMitchell Wade – conspiracyJohn Michael – conspiracy, money laundering, perjuryThomas Kontogiannis – money launderingAlan Fabian – fraudEugene Maysky – 4 x DUIRandy Scott – DUIJoe Boylan – DWIChris Healy – 2 x DUIBrian Bundell – sexual assaultBruce Hopfengardner – conspiracy, money laundering, wire fraudThomas Broderick –  money launderingGeorge Chris Ortloff – child sexual assaultMark Foley – solicitationMark Vitter – solicitationJohn Ensign – adultery, briberyMark Sanford –  ethics violations

          12. amazing.. you get a few warmer than normal days and you turn into Al Gore.. not a shred of evidence .. but that never stopped a good lib did it .. facts have no room in a debate.. actually there is no room for a debate..

          13. of course having the VAST majority of scientists saying  there is global warming means nothing to the ” know nothing” party

          14. If you don’t see how global warming has affected this planet then you have blinders on.
            global warming and climate change is real.
            It’s not about just a few warm days, look at the past 22 yrs. There is plenty of evidence you choose not to see it.

          15. Per your request of expanding my sources, my answer is no. Turn off your Marxist, Liberal media outlets, find a library and begin reading. There you will find sources.
            To clarify, “you people” I clearly do not understand who you are referring. Provide more information. I will provide an answer. You Hack!

        2. Typical republican, wants government to solve their problems from cradle to grave.
          Keep drinking the neocon kool aid.   Your buddy Bush and Congress killed the economy.  

          1. you don’t want me to list all the REPUBLICANS  that say the reccession is the bush reccession do you?
            the conditions behind the Great Recession were far worse than anything Reagan inherited, and Obama has pulled off a recovery with less of a sustained growth in Federal Government spending.-from Business Insider———————David Stockman, President Ronald Reagan’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, explained in an op-ed piece, “Four Deformations of the Apocalypse,” exactly how the economic decisions of the GOP over the past 40 years, is destroying not just the economy and capitalism, but the America dream

          2. My son ran my  Truck into an Oak Tree at 50mph!

            It’s been in the shop for a month, who should I blame because I am walking to work? 

            The Body Shop?

          3. 800,000 jobs lost a month under Bush, you can have him and his wife that killed a boy with her car.

        3. We’re one country. When did it become us against ourselves? Open your eyes it’s not libs vs. conservatives, it’s the people vs. our crooked politicians, on both sides of the aisle. Voting straight along party lines, gets us nowhere and neither Obama or Romney can change that without an honest Senate and House.

        4.  There is no such thing as hard work and success, Obama already has stated that the government provides all of the work for any successful business venture.

          1. I’m conservative and I believe in getting paid a fair wage, however not sitting on your a@@ all day getting something for nothing.  Please explain to me as a business owner what a fair wage is.

        5. whats disgusting is the ignorance of someone who claims its liberals who want something for nothing– its the wealthy conservatives that want something for nothing and there are just as many conservatives ,if not more, on welfare and getting assistance– btw- its the bush recession, laddie , even republicans say so

        6. Oh yes, your buddy MittTwit RobMe is working just so hard with his money hidden in the Cayman Islands, Panama, and Burmuda and paying half or LESS of the tax rates that you and I pay.  Gee, that is such hard work.  It is just digusting how you so called Jesus lovers will bash the poor and then kiss the toes of silver spooned job-killing corporatists like MittTwit.

          1. Your angry. That’s Funny! Not that your comment is worth responding to but just so you know, there is no crime in having an account oversees. It’s his money, he can do what he wants to do with it. I don’t tell you how to spend yours, that’s what Obama is trying to do with Obamacare extortion.

          2. It’s easy sitting there in that Ivory Tower isn’t it Bush.
            Doesn’t your boat need more polishing.

          3. Regardless of whether Romney’s overseas accounts are legal or not, it is impolitic and unpatriotic to pay lower Federal taxes than someone making $50,000 if you intend to run for President.  He knew he was running for President, but still couldn’t resist…because a quarter of a BILLION dollars is not enough money for Romney.  Americans beware.

        7. There is no arguing with liberals, they only enable dysfunctional people to continue their dysfunction lives.  Just heard from my brother who a social worker in a large northeastern city.  He is so excited about Paul Ryan, I also work with people in crisis.  We  have both come to realize that  many of the people living off the system today use it as a way of like, not assistance during a down time.  We have created a class of people who no longer want to help themselves.  I believe it is unfair to allow people to become dependent on the government.

          1. Did it ever occur to you that burned out Social Workers have a very skewed view of humans?  They are dealing with impoverished people in crisis on a daily basis.  Their perception of the human race is altered by their own plight.   

        8. Something For Nothing?

          Do you really think that receiving $100,000.00 a year to do nothing more than to  sign your name on an SEC document as the CEO is hard work?

           Do you realy think that that is not Entitlement Mentality of the Most Extreme?

          You guys intend to Vote For the “King” Of Entitlements! Retroactive retirement included!

          You speak of HATE!You Righties have been Brainwashed with hate!

        9.  You statement is incredibly false.  Liberals don’t hate hard work, and success that hasn’t been earned by exploiting others.  Entitlement programs aren’t the sole reason the economy is suffering.

        1. Right, protecting our troops and giving the ones more resources that are out proecting us and our country while many on the left sit on their ma’s couch and tear it apart is such a bad idea. Lets keep giving our tax dollars to more solyndras, car companies and wall street bail outs. My pals on Wall St. love Obama more than many know.

          1. Oh please, we spend nearly a trillion on Defense each year. There is waste in there, a lot of it. There doesn’t need to be more money spent on Defense. We can have a safe and effective military without blowing trillions. Cutting spending in that way doesn’t mean we want our troops to be killed. Get real.

          2. Isn’t it terrible? The Republican congressmen warning defense contractors that the awful sequestration cuts are going to happen if they don’t vote for them. They love billions of spending when it benefits them directly, but a million on PBS for example sends them screaming?

            They’re the party of me-me-me.

          3. Solyndra (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/nov/17/david-plouffe/solyndra-loan-george-w-bush-david-plouffe/) was $535 million (a small fraction of what we waste in defense spending yearly) and the loan was started under the Bush Administration. (interesting fact: NASA has spent less in its entire existence than the DOD spends in one year). Also, TARP(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program), aka the Wall Street bail out, that was Bush too. The Auto bail out, i’ll give you that one, Obama did that. And it worked. 

            We spend more on defense in one year than any other country in the world by leaps and bounds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures). The only real threat to America is America. It is time to stop building war machines and get back to some good ol’ fashioned nation building right here at home. Just think of what the GDP would look like if those pallets of cash were spent here instead of being ‘lost’ in Iraq (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1).

          4.  Read the Time mag cover story about dangerous planes that killed troops and were STILL funded.Then go apologize to their families.

      2. Your funny math numbers are way off.  The wealthy have gained so much in the last five years (at the expence of everyone else) and your numbers do not account for that.  “Let’s say another trillion”, is just silly.  Where does that magic trillion come from?

        1. According to a new report from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO),
          Question: Do the rich pay their fair share of taxes?
          On just federal-level taxes, the top 1 percent of income earners already have an effective tax rate of 29 percent. (This should please Warren Buffett!)
          President Obama has achieved his goal of increasing redistribution: The top 20 percent has seen its after-tax share of total income fall, especially the top 1 percent, while the lower income groups have seen their share rise.
          The top 1 percent pays well over its “fair share”—it pays a much larger share of taxes (22.3 percent) than the share of income it earns (13.3 percent)—as does the full top 20 percent. Meanwhile, the bottom income groups pay a much smaller share of taxes than their share of income: The bottom 40 percent earned 14.9 percent of income but paid just 4.1 percent of federal taxes. So when the President and the his supporters complain that the rich are not paying their fair share of taxes, and Warren Buffett suggests another tax to ensure that they start paying more, someone should show them this government report. If the argument is that America must ensure that the rich pay, it must just be rhetoric—because they are already paying.
          “Take your campaign out of the gutter Obama
          Let’s talk about the real issue that America faces.”

          1. For one thing, 29% is historically low.  They paid more than double that under, say, Richard Nixon.  Then this happened:
            From 1979 to 2007, average household income for the nation’s top 1% more than tripled, while middle-class incomes grew by less than 40%, according to a new report from a research arm of Congress.
            While those at the top have seen their incomes soar over the past three decades, middle-class and lower incomes have stagnated, the report by the Congressional Budget Office found.
            “Over the past three decades, the distribution of income in the United States has become increasingly dispersed — in particular, the share of income accruing to high-income households has increased, whereas the share accruing to other households has declined,” the CBO said.
            For the top 1% of the population, average inflation-adjusted household income grew by 275%. The rest of wealthiest fifth of the population, not including the top 1%, saw household income grow by 65% during that time, faster than the rest of the population, but “not nearly as fast as for the top 1%.”

          2. Mitt Romney is in the top 1%, yet payed 13.9%    If his previous years’ tax returns even *approached* 29% in fed. taxes, he would have released them weeks ago with great fanfare. 

            So what am I to think of a man who refuses to release his earlier taxes? 
            What am I to think of a man who is “above” all previous Presidents and candidates who complied?  Aw, c’mon – Romney is hiding something that won’t sit well with Americans.

            I believe that 13.9% is the HIGHEST tax rate the Romneys payed in the previous decade.
            Mitt, release your taxes and prove me wrong!   

      3. ok, so what are you willing to give up so the republicans can cut taxes for the wealthy more? your mortgage interest  deduction? tax your employer health care? your retirement savings? how about looking at the ryan plan before you make rash statements

      4. Cut what?  The tax subsidies to the oil companies making record profits?  The ultra-bloated military industrial complex?  Are you for THOSE kinds of cuts?  The President has already agreed to a trillion dollars in cuts.  Maybe you missed that last summer.  Your former buffoon President and the ReFLUBlicans squandered a record budget surplus like a drunken sailor on steroids and almost destroyed the entire economy with their Great ReFLUBlican Recession.  Yet you people don’t bat an eye.  You just want to keep robbing from the poor, the working class, and the middle class so you can further enrich your already-rich job-killing ultra-corrupt buddies, like the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson, and to heck with the rest of us.  It is just sickening how right wingers can stand there and celebrate this ongoing transfer of wealth from the poor and the middle class to the rich and then talk about how much they love Jesus.  If Jesus could see today’s Republican party in action, he would never stop throwing up.

      5.  Because we have way too many means.
        Economists are telling us that simply cutting spending isn’t enough to get economy going again – we also need to increase revenue and invest in jobs programs.
        More people can’t spend in the private sector until they have jobs with sufficient income/benefits.
        Now, with that being said, is there some cuts that can be made?  Without question.

      1. What % was that and how does it compare to the average middle class taxpayer?

        Don’t want folks to think about those facts, do you?

        1. 14% and how much should one person have to pay for being successful anyway? Maybe we should all have to pay exactly the same amount. That would be fair and equal.

          1. You are correct, and that is exactly why Romney won’t release his tax returns.  Average Americans will not vote for a mega-wealthy man who pays a lower % of his income in Fed. Taxes then they do. 

          2. Oh? Are you an average working person? Did you pay anything close to 3 million dollars in taxes?
            I see a lot of “bigot” name calling by the liberals on here when it comes to homosexuals. I’d say that the liberals are bigots when it comes to successful people.

          3. 14% for ONE YEAR when he was actively running for president.

            We have no way of knowing if he even paid one cent in federal income tax prior to 2010 because, unlike other modern candidates, he is hiding his tax returns from voters.

            Did you notice how carefully Romney avoided using the term “federal income taxes” when he whined about paying taxes? (McCain also was carefil and never said income taxes when he issued a supporting statement).

            Yeah – he owns a half dozen mansions so of course he pays taxes — PROPERTY TAXES.

      2. Yes 0%.  Ryan’s plan gets rid of all taxes on capital gains, which is where Willard Romney get 100% of his income from.  I paid plenty of taxes last year, and under Ryan’s plan you and I would pay more in taxes so that Romney can pay none.  You can be a sucker and vote for that if you want.  I wont.

    2. And Obama has helped fix our debt issues how exactly? By accumulating more debt than all the previous presidents combined? And by instituting yet another entitlement program, Obamacare, whose cost estimates have already vastly exceeded what was promised when it was passed? Obamacare is one of the largest tax increases on the middle class ever created. The Ryan plan does deal with the debt and the deficit. Obama’s plan doesn’t. So by your own stated goals, you should be voting for Romney/Ryan. Unless you want more socialism and a decreased standard of living for everyone.

      1. Wow, a lot of wrong stuffed into one paragraph.  Remember the “grand bargain” debates from last year?  That would have cut the debt by 4 Trillion.  It was rejected by Ryan and his GOP Congressional Budget Committee because it raised taxes on the rich.  The Affordable Care Act is only a tax hike for those who can afford to get health insurance and don’t.  It asks them buy insurance from a private company (you know, the exact opposite of socialism). 
        Be a sucker and vote for a budget plan that raises your taxes so that Mitt Romney pays none.  Go ahead and vote for someone that will make sure your health insurance premiums continue to include the cost of paying for people who only get their health care from the emergency room.   I’m sure it will trickle down to you somehow. 

      2. All of this is patently false. You need to do some research before anyone outside the whacko right-wing will take you seriously about anything. The Ryan plan doesn’t balance the budget until 2038. He is a fake deficit hawk who just wants to cut taxes for the rich to further the cause of ‘Starving the Beast’. Romney/Ryan only want government to be in the business of helping business, damn the regular folk.

    3. Yet the media, especially inside the Beltway media, love this guy and do not question any of his statements no matter how preposterous (almost all of his statements are preposterous). This election, imo, will be about the media as much as the candidates and my fear is the media is going to perform miserably and do more misinforming than informing. Starting with uncritically accepting Ryan’s statements.

      1.  There is much more media now than there was when the big three networks,AP and UPI had all the info.Even though there are a lot of lies out there(Fox)The problem we have is everyone who isn’t hard right is destroyed systematically.

      1. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.  Remember when we used to have to get approval from Congress to go to war?  Part of that meant figuring out funding.  You know what has only happened once in our history?  Giving tax cuts to rich people during a war.  That’s what Mr Ryan voted for.

      1. Read my post, then try again.  Under Ryan’s plan, Romeny WOULD (future tense), pay no taxes.  Understood?

    4. Wanted to make sure you saw this article  http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-obama-panic-romney-crowd-sizes/article/2504781#.UCqOSxyYmg0

      1. Oh wow, thanks!  I appreciated it.  I enjoyed this article from a hard right wing site about how Sarah Palin is drawing huge crowds and is “energizing the base.”  I should probably be worried!

    5. If you think that ( Double  U)  did a number on the economy wait until ( Double V ) gets done with it!

      Double V= Vulture & Voucher!

  4. “Dumb & Dumber” cleared $127 million at the box office, a mighty enthusiastic response. That this sequel, of “Romney & Ryan,” is eliciting only a “tepid response”? That makes no sense.

    1. Prove TheConservativeSocialWorker is wrong about Barney Frank’s and Chris Dodd’s mishandling of the last big financial bust. How did they know when to sell their stock in Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and to tell the US voters that an October “surprise” was coming-months before it happened? Why didn’t they help to stop the “economic bust” ?

    2.  The media in Europe called it right”Half the US electorate(conservatives)think Forrest Gump was a documentary.”

  5. Ryan is a radical millionaire that wants to increase his take in money from the government by stealing from the poor and middle class. I wonder how many off shore tax evasion accounts Ryan has? He used his Social Security money to pay his way through college. Yet Ryan wants to take away Social Security for every one else. Two Tea Republican Millionaires out to screw America.

    1. Unlike Barney Frank (D) MA., one of the “master minds” behind the sub-prime, predatory, slapping my voter-base in the face, sub-prime mortgage vultures.  This individual “literally” stole millions of dollars right from the individuals that voted for him.  While you hack (D)’s are all “hot&heavy” about Gov. Romney’s tax returns, maybe you should investigate which “off-shore” account he deposited “Your Money.”  You Hacks!  By definition of a hack (D) Liberal, Mr. Frank will ensure “Roosters&Roosters” will be permitted to marry and “IT” will all be OK in HackLand.

      1. just a LIE – it was unregulated lenders that caused the subprime meltdown ( thanks republicons for the deregualtion–
        do they let you post these ridiculous rantings as some form of therapy?

    2. Not true,about Social  Security, what the drive-by-media left out was that his mother is living on SS. Nor does he want to do anything to lower SS to those over 55, but change SS to slowly make SS a workable plan. Don’t agree? Prove me wrong!

    3. That must be from an MSNBC talking point! Fact:
      3 things every voter needs to know about Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan — in 100 words
      1. No one over the age of 55 would be affected in any way.
      2. Traditional Medicare fee-for-service would remain available for all. “Premium support”—that is, government funding of private insurance plans chosen by individuals—is an option for those who choose it. No senior would be forced out of the traditional Medicare program against his will.
      3. Overall funding for Medicare under the Ryan-Wyden plan is scheduled to grow at the same rate as under President Obama’s proposals. Is this “gutting Medicare” and “ending Medicare as we know it”? In reality, it’s the market giving seniors cheaper, higher quality choices they can take if they wish, with the traditional program remaining an option.

  6. If the BDN believes this Gallop poll, then they are stupid.  Hello!  Have you been watching the media coverage of Paul Ryan?  It’s been through the roof!  Thousands of people attending the Romney/Ryan rallies.  Get a freaking clue lame stream media!

    1. This “newspaper” is so slanted to the left you have to read it at an angle.  You are 100% correct, did you see the coverage on the NBC Nightly News?  Even the most liberal station could not deny the positive support for the duo.  2012.  Game Over, B.O.!

  7. Since 1978, the State of Maine put Olympia Snowe (R) in Washington, D.C., and in 2012 she is “choosing” not to run for re-election.  The State of Maine has also put Susan Collins (R) in Washington D.C. since 1996 and should have been our Governor in 1994, but we know how that turned-out:  Angus King (I). 

    For the last Governor election, the State of Maine voted a (R) into Augusta.  As the citizens of Maine quickly approach the Presidential election for 2012, use the fundamental “common-sense” we have and vote for making our local and State goverment stronger.  We should not be “strong-armed” by Washington to Give Up “Our Fair Share” so Washington can spend our money with no accountability.  Let us be the State in the Union that demonstrates we can and will be more prosperous without the current administrations, “Yes we can.  First, give me all your money.  Second, play by our rules.”  Whether you are a (R) or a (D), statistics show that States heavy with the (D) are “sinking ships” with this administration in Washington.  States with a strong (R) leadership, such as ours, are weathering the storm of “I thought we could” Washington.

    Strong local.  Stronger State Government.  Let us vote for the candidate that understands our Constitution and the rights granted to the States, and not to be replaced with the alternative for four more years.  The ideal propaganda of a President only wanting to “Pretend” being President.

  8. When Bush was allowed to take the US military and attach Iraq, the US economy was damaged beyond repair. The US is in a minor quiet earthquake, and it’s seams are cracking. The poor are finished, the middle class is hanging on with a bit of pride and a fingernail, and the very rich is looking down and laughing. I feel Rome is going down for the second time. Obama you have done a good job, you received no help from the repubs, they will not help you if you get the Pres job again, and if they get the Pres job, the repubs, the middle class is finished. Twenty-five percent of Americans will be living in their cars, the crisis in America is much worse than we know, get ready to take cover.

    1. Bush had the consent of both US Congress  (overwhelmingly) and the UN. Clinton didn’t request the consent of Congress nor the UN. We still have the Bosnia situation, but  it is not mentioned by the drive-by-media.

      1. The difference is Bush/Cheney created false information and lied to congress, never putting the cost of that war on the balance sheet.

        1. When soldiers found mosquito repellent as mentioned on the barrels from France,they went into the building-exiting within minutes with rashes on their arms and having breathing problems. They checked the building with a monitor and it was found not to be mosquito repellent but nerve agent. Thousands of Iraqis were injured or killed by nerve agents. That is an example of a mass destruction weapon which Kerry,Clinton,and many other Democrats(some of the Dems were on the intelligence committee) agreed was happening in Iraq. Bush realized that the countries who were trading weapons and aircraft for Iraqi oil after UN sanctions were imposed would not go along with the US in attacking Iraq.

      2. What Bosnia situation is that?  My friend visited there last year for vacation and there was no mention of snipers or carbombs.

    2. Check your fact, GWB economy was doing great until the Democrats took over the House and Senate:
      January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%The Unemployment rate was 4.6%George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!Remember that day…January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
      I would take 1000 GWB’s to one inept community organizer!

  9. do you really want me to start posting about conservative thieves, its a long list, want me to start with delay and go from there
    get over yourself, 

  10. The tax reform plan that House Republicans have advanced would sharply cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans and could leave middle-class households facing much larger tax bills, according to a new analysis set to be released Wednesday.
    Republicans have declined to identify their targets. However, some of the biggest “loopholes” on the books are popular tax breaks for employer-provided health insurance, mortgage interest, state and local taxes, and retirement savings, which disproportionately benefit the upper middle class.soooooo republicons, are you prepared to give up these”loopholes” so they can cut taxes for the wealthy evenmore?  These are what the ryan plan consists of

    1. Rube was a term used to show that a problem is brewing, the problem is …either we raise taxes on the rich-10% of the wealthiest pay over 60% of all US income taxes-therefore less jobs to be formed, or we keep a tiny 2% cut to help stimulate new business and new jobs as well as keeping the cuts for the middle class.(Not as the liberal movers and shakers try to profess) It’s sink or swim-your choice. However, elect Obama and a democrat Congress and we will continue to have no budget except spend,spend,spend…

  11. The tepid response in another week will go from tepid to stone cold as voters begin to realize who and what Ryan is. Though Ryan and the press spin him as a small government guy he is in reality a BIG government guy. Ryan has spent almost his entire career working in government. He is a supply sider, BIG government guy who has become a millionaire while in the service of his government. That should be enough of a clue to debunk his government is bad vote for me mentality. In addition to being a BIG government supply sider we must add a line item to his resume for his role as Bush rubber stamp boy.

    Ryan is a BIG Government-Life long Bureaucrat-Supply Sider-Bush Rubber Stamp boy,  Howard Roark he is not.

  12. So the choice of Sen. John Edwards by John Kerry received the highest numbers in this poll?  What does that say about the people who were questioned in this type of poll by Gallup?  Many in the media are not content to merely “report” the news, but they endeavor to “influence” the news instead!

  13.  Republicans all—- if you want to keep this up, I have enough for all day posts——
    Eric G. Andell – deputy undersecretary in charge of newly created Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools (previously senior adviser to Secretary of Education Rod Paige) – pleaded guilty to one count of conflict of interest for using government travel for personal causes and was sentenced to one year of probation, 100 hours of community service, and fined $5,000
    Claude Allen – Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy- resigned, pled guilty to shoplifting from Target stores.
    * Lester Crawford – Commissioner, FDA – resigned in late September 2005 after only two months on the job. On October 17th, he pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts, making a false writing and conflict of interest. On February 27, 2007, Crawford was sentenced to to three years of probation and was fined $90,000.
    * Brian Doyle – Deputy Press Secretary, Department of Homeland Security – Resigned in wake of child sex scandal. Doyle was arrested on April 4th, 2006 and pleaded no contest on September 19, 2006 to seven counts of use of a computer to seduce a child and sixteen counts of transmitting harmful material to a minor. On November 17th, 2006 Brian Doyle was sentenced to five years in state prison and ten years of probation. He will also need to register as a sex offender.

      1. had an affair that was no ones business but the 3 involved– republicons tried to use it and it turned around and  bit them– now see who polls higher than bush-either one

        1. I agree. He kept a strong economy and a balanced budget all while that was going on.  Anyone on the right though will tell you that it was George H.W. that left Billy boy with the strong budget.

      2. One of the best modern day presidents ever……..
        Times were wonderful when Clinton was President. A lot of folks flourished when he was in office.

  14. Just another who sees the federal job as another notch on his bedpost. Fire them all and put  regular Joe’s in the positions………….money makes people forget where they came from. I want one of them to live the life of an hourly paid employee at the local department store like walmart for a month and see what their opinion of the working stiff is then……………nothing like a slap in the face for a reality check.
    who ever is elected will just be one like we have already had………….they are all cut from the same cloth

  15. Republicans have signed the MUSLIM pledge against AMERICA. This is the Grover Norquist pledge designed by his Muslim wife. You think it is in our best interest why is it not working in the interest of us Americans? Why did they choose republicans to sign the pledge? Because they are muslaphobes and Grover is outsmarting them. Not a big challenge.  GOP = job creators this is true!  Problem is jobs are filling our old factories with call centers to take away your possessions as soon as your livable wage job is outsourced like your neighbors was. We need more contraception in those red states where they breed these subjective voters.

    1. You’re right , but only a few Republicans signed it,so the rest were Democrats. Is that true? You don’t want to allow equal access , but  (D’s) want to promote equal access with talk but not wanting to do the walking in someone else’s shoes.

  16. The best thing about all this is that the morons who are lining up here defending this doofus are the same buffoons who this guy’s plan will screw. Are you sheep genetically predisposed to line up or do you have to be trained first???

  17. Two unfunded wars and the recession all started by GW Bush. Don’t forget bank deregulation was begun by republican hacks.

    1. Yep and that’s why we need  real Republicans like a Romney/Ryan ticket.  Dems can’t even be honest with themselves, Obama has been a big disappointment yet they won’t admit it.  At least conservatives admit their disappointment regarding George Bush. 

      I’ve also come to the conclusion that most Dems don’t know what they want. Most Dems in my neighborhood are pretty conservative.  They don’t like paying high property taxes, hate the wars the politicians get us involved in, complain about the teachers salaries and benefits, are against  abortion and their little dirty secret, homosexuals getting married disgust them and most say it’s refreshing to have a Gov like Paul LePage.  So, I’m still trying to figure out why they vote for the Dems.

      1. Get a Clue!

        No one likes paying their bills but the responsible ones do it anyway!

        Grumbling about your taxes is nothing compared to trying to burn down the Government in spite of them!

      2. haha – lets see if liar lepage wins reelection, lets see how the ssm vote comes out.
        i’ve come to the conclusion that republicans are just easy marks and are so in awe of anyone with maney they step into the gutter and bow as the wealthy walk by

        1. I bet if you ever talk to some of your neighbors you’ll find the same thing.   However I do find liberals have a tendency to not to socialize with the common folk, they only use them.

          1. Not insulting at all.  Actually, I know my neighbors quite well, and in our town the vote was 70-30% in favor of same sex marriage, probably because we really do know our neighbors and like them and want them to be happy.  Apparently not in your town.  Glad I don’t live there.  I’m sure you are, too, and that’s just fine with me.

          2. Ahhh AverageJoe responding, especially  when it he has a comment on homosexual marriage.  A poster commented awhile back that you surface when you have something to say regarding homosexual, guess what it’s true. 

    2.  And the Part D Big Pharma unfunded giveaway.Shameless pandering at its worst that will kill us all.

  18. They must have polled mostly Democrats.  I just got off the Yahoo Finance website.  There was a question as to whether you thought Ryan was a good VP choice, yes or no?  70% voted yes.  It shows just how much people who are concerned with their finances think of Repubs vs. Dems.

    1. Anyone who believes any poll numbers is believing in nothing but spin and voodoo, it’s all media hype. Search long enough and you’ll eventually find the answers that will support your point of view.

      1. The problem is, libs all believe in the skewed pols that show lib politicians leading conservative ones.  Lies rule and win.

        1. I disagree, look what happened in Wisconsin, the polls there where telling us Walker was going to be outed. Not until the last day or so did they get it right … it’s all hype. They need a simple way to keep people interested so they give us meaningless meta-data.

        2. The problem is, conservatives do the same.  Stop playing party and realize that we are all just people!

      2. The MSM is using skewed polls for three reasons:
        1. To boost Democrat morale and boost Democrat turnout;
        2. To depress GOP morale and suppress GOP turnout; and
        3. To panic GOP voters and turn them against their nominee and each other.
        Obama is trailing among likely voters, and the Democrats are panicked because they know that Obama’s only hope is to destroy Mitt Romney’s character.

        1. Like I said it’s all hype, but Milt as far as Mitt’s lack of character, he does that to himself. Unlike your numbering system …. with Mitt it’s pure binary.

          One thing you can count on with Mitt, he stands for little and what little stance he has is guaranteed to change whenever it suits the moment. That’s the binary part, (flip or flop) and that’s documented history not hype.

  19.  You’d be surprised how many low income dimwits will wave the flag for the rich.I know an R who has worked at a crap job(no insurance) for 20+ years and is treated like crap.But he spends all day yapping about illegals.Meanwhile his company pockets $millions and he gets squat.

  20. Ryan wants to destroy Medicare, so who in their right mind that is over 50 would vote for these guys ?
    I don’t like Obama either so its why I say, we need to get rid of our outdated party system and go to a merit and brightest in the land draft system so we have the very best, for America to survive.

    1. 3 things every voter needs to know about Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan — in 100 words
      1. No one over the age of 55 would be affected in any way.
      2. Traditional Medicare fee-for-service would remain available for all. “Premium support”—that is, government funding of private insurance plans chosen by individuals—is an option for those who choose it. No senior would be forced out of the traditional Medicare program against his will.
      3. Overall funding for Medicare under the Ryan-Wyden plan is scheduled to grow at the same rate as under President Obama’s proposals. Is this “gutting Medicare” and “ending Medicare as we know it”? In reality, it’s the market giving seniors cheaper, higher quality choices they can take if they wish, with the traditional program remaining an option.

    2. If nothing is done, Medicare will be fiscally bankrupt in less than 10 years. Having Obamacare cuts $700 million from Medicare ensures it’s collapse. We need leaders who will make the tough decisions that so many presidents, including Bush, Clinton have avoided for decades. Benefits that are fiscally unsustainable hurts everyone. The current administration’s vision is to turn the country of the free and the brave to a government entitlement dependent European socialistic model. This cannot be disputed. Those economies are collapsing like dominoes into the depths of recession worse that this country has ever experienced with no realistic way out of it. Ryan is not destroying Medicare. He’s going to attempt changes, although difficult ones to ensure that all Americans have this benefit available to them and make it a fiscally sustainable program. Tough decisions take time to accept. Some will be effected in the short term, but if you are 30 years old now, it will be there when you need it.

  21. I’ve got to comment on this..  After reading all the blogs to date on this article, there defintely is a very hostile opinion of the other persons point of view.  My way or no way!!

    And we wonder why our legislature in DC is so dysfunctual. 

  22. simply a LIE about the subprime  mortgage– of the top 25 subprime lenders only ONE  was subject to the regulations you’re whining about.
    it was DEREGULATION that fueled the crisis — thank you republicans

  23. Paul Ryan rose to the top of the political ranks on his reputation as a conservative budget hawk. But his voting record shows him to be far from a pure fiscal conservative.
    Ryan voted for the $700 billion bank bailout, the biggest Medicare expansion in U.S. history, a massive highway bill that included the “Bridge to Nowhere” and other big-ticket priorities when George W. Bush was president — going to bat for a high-spending GOP agenda that the tea party base now looks on with regret.
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79688.html#ixzz23WRQIBzv

  24. Ryan will be exposed for what he is. A wealthy guy who believes that the powerful rule and the rest of us foot the bill.

  25. Of course there is a tepid response.  In fact, there should be utter revulsion.  RyAYNRAND is an ultra corrupt corporate toadie of the very worst order who’s stated position is to destroy Medicare, destroy Social Security, gut education, and give even more tax cuts to his already-rich corporate masters so he can further destroy the middle class.  It is just sickening.

    1.  Ultra corrupt? Explain this if you have the facts to back it up. Otherwise you are looking like another uninformed flame throwing troll.

  26. And none of those people are wealthy?  Graft and corruption span party lines.  The problem is not party but that our leaders are ALL out of touch with reality!

  27. 2/3rds of the independent voters never heard of Ryan or knew so little about him they couldn’t offer an opinion. That is the ignorance and apathy that is allowing Obama and the far-left radicals to remake our country into a godless socialist state. These people should not be voting if they pay so little attention to politics. It would be like me showing up in Japan every few years to cast a vote there. “Well, this guy looks okay and seems nice, I’ll vote for him.”

  28.  Talk about a loser…what will our elderly do?  On the news last night Romney states he’ll proceed with his plan.  Nice to have a VP candidate on board with the platform.  Did you see the booklet he held up indicate what this team is pushing for?  “The Path to Prosperity”  Well middle class prepare yourself if these two “wealth for the few” get elected

  29. The real assault on Medicare, comes from President Obama, because the Affordable Care Act calls for $700 billion in cuts to Medicare over the next decade.
     
    He stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare. If any person in this entire debate has blood on their hands in regard to Medicare, it’s Barack Obama. He’s the one that’s destroying Medicare.
    3 things every voter needs to know about Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan — in 100 words
    1. No one over the age of 55 would be affected in any way.
    2. Traditional Medicare fee-for-service would remain available for all. “Premium support”—that is, government funding of private insurance plans chosen by individuals—is an option for those who choose it. No senior would be forced out of the traditional Medicare program against his will.
    3. Overall funding for Medicare under the Ryan-Wyden plan is scheduled to grow at the same rate as under President Obama’s proposals. Is this “gutting Medicare” and “ending Medicare as we know it”? In reality, it’s the market giving seniors cheaper, higher quality choices they can take if they wish, with the traditional program remaining an option.

      1. Nope.  Ryan’s plan will allow those who are under age 55 now to opt for the current Medicare program or to opt for a voucher from the government to buy their own health insurance when they reach age 65.

  30. President Obama in Roanoke Virginia July 13, 2012 ‘If You’ve Got a Business — You Didn’t Build That. Obama to Joe the Plumber, “I want to spread the wealth around.”  Obama: “I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students, the foreign students, the Chicanos, the Marxist professors.” ~ Barack Obama (Dreams From My Father.) Obama, Commie mother, commie father, commie grandparents, commie mentor, commie friends …… commie Barack. Not too difficult to figure this out.
    Election2012 Capitalism or Socialism. Your choice.

      1. You lib’s really hang your hat on trying to keep us realist repub’s away from what is really going on. You lib’s try to hang your hat on all the BS out there and stuff that simply, flat out, is not true. Don’t blame us for quoting your king of the regime. It is what it is. He said what he said. Are you calling him stupid for not knowing what he is saying or he is not smart enough to know every person will decipher his message.
        Mitt Romney never killed anyone. Mitt Romney is not a felon. Ann Romney’s $900 wardrobe is more “in touch” than Michelle Obama’s $6,900 wardrobe. Republicans don’t want to poison the water, air and food. Republicans don’t want to kill or starve children. Am I forgetting anything? Oh yeah, republicans will have a budget when in office and will not spend the most of all other president’s combined.

          1.  Good grief.  You spend ALL day here, day after day, regurgitating Democratic talking points and insulting people who disagree with you.  Do you work for Obama/2012?

          2. You seemingly don’t know the difference between your & you’re and you think I’m the ignorant one? Too funny.

          3. Sort of ignorant like our genius President Obama saying, with great deliberation,  “57 states” instead of 50 states. I’ll be sure to help you with your typing mistakes too.

          4. I’m stating facts and asking a question.  You do seem to be here all day long.   You’re probably an Obama volunteer to monitor the BDN and anti-Obama comments. I guess that’s my point.

          5. LOL. Not really a tangent since all the dem’s seem to still be using everything I noted above against the repub’s… key word, still. Not really a tangent at all. LOL. Go get a dictionary.
            I see your regurgitating your own liberal agenda. Good for you.

  31. Rasmussen: 50% Now View Paul Ryan Favorably; 43% Say He Was Right Choice
    The recent frantic email theme to supporters from Team Obama about Mitt Romney’s run-away fundraising successes has been expanded to the crowd size gap between the thousands who rushed out over the weekend to see Romney and new running mate Rep. Paul Ryan and the hundreds who cheered on President Obama. If you think those lines were long at Chic-fil-lay appreciation day, with conservative Americans showing their support, wait for November 6th 2012, the day we kick Obama and all his socialist czars out of office. They’re going to have to extend the hours for voting because they’ll be coming in droves to finally put a nail into the coffin of the worst president in the history of America!

  32. If the response is so ‘tepid’ why are people being turned away from Romney/Ryan events in droves because security can’t keep up with screening people?

  33. Obama 2008: “Yes we can”
    Obama 2012: “No you didn’t”
    Election2012 Capitalism or Socialism. Your choice.
    Let America Be America again, Vote Romney/Ryan 2012!

  34. Biden was much better known at the time of his pick than Ryan. This poll says more about Gallup than Ryan.

    The more we Americans get to know Paul Ryan, the more we will embrace him and support him He is a terrific pick. Well done, Gov. Romney!

  35. As long as they keep us divided, the politicians win.  So all of you ra ra republicans and ra ra democrats keep it going.  You are the problem.  

  36. This is so predictable of the liberal spin/bias of this newspaper.   The article say that Paul Ryan’s selection has elicited a tepid response yet your own poll has readers voting  that they approve of his selection  63-36.  It is very obvious to me that the liberals are scared to death of a young, energetic,  articulate, conservative like Paul Ryan. You can’t win the debate so you can only smear. Journalism is dead and freedoom of the press is defined as spinning your own agenda to manipulate voter opinion.   I think its time for a wake up call!!  I dream of  just one political campaign that is conducted as a debate of the issues and not this petty incidental manipulative stuff.

    1. I think the reason the local poll support for Romney’s choice was high was that most of us know it’s just another nail in the Romney campaign’s coffin!

  37. Obama has trouble getting a high school gym half-filled.  Boy are you libs in for a shock on November 6th.     But you keep believing those grossly overweighted-for-the-Dems polls. 

  38. Gallup reports 42 percent rate Paul Ryan in a “fair to poor” status. Whereas Rasmussen poll shows 50 percent positive approval for Paul Ryan. Naturally the “BANGOR DEMOCRAT NABOBS” [BDN] salivates over the “fair to poor” status. What’s new? BDN: blah, blah, blah.

  39. vote Mr nobody for president
    nobody cares
    nobody is honest
    nobody looks to the future
    nobody will save the economy
    nobody will stop deficit spending
    nobody deserves your vote.
    vote nobody..

  40. Keep spinning media.

    Obama will be crushed.

    And Romney’s gaffe will likely prove prophetic when Ryan becomes President have two Mitt terms.

  41. Ryan will do nothing more than give even larger tax cuts to the rich and take more from the middle class and poor.  At least he admits it.  He believes since there are far more of us than them, we are the ones that should shoulder the cost of the deficit.  He calls for smaller government, which i dont disagree with.  I believe they should get rid of all of the wasteful bodies of government that dont actually have a function.  There is plenty of fat to trim, however unless the country’s wealth starts to be sent down to the middle class to help rejuvenate the economy, there is nobody buying, nobody spending and therefore the only ones banking any money will continue to be the rich.  They spend most of their money OVERSEAS.  This country is in a world of hurts folks. I dont believe that O’bama has done a good job.  I think he has failed in many ways, but i shudder to think of what can happen if we put someone like Romney and Ryan in the office.  More unneccesary wars against Iran and other Middle East countries to further spend the taxpayer money OUT of this country.  We need to start taking care of OUR OWN.  After watching the Olympics, seeing how many millions of dollars were spent, and seeing that our own athletes are being taxed for representing this country, my heart grows sadder each day knowing that this country does not take care of its own, not our military heroes, not our athletes and not our citizens.  The only people being taken care of in this country is the politicians and the 1%, most of which are One and the Same.

  42. Once working Americans get to know Paul Ryan they’ll like him just like this Dem http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/in-2011-clip-former-clinton-white-house-chief-of-staff-erskine-bowles-praises-paul-ryan-budget-criticized-president-obama/

  43. I know we have a deficit and we need to look at medicare and social security but Ryan’s “plan” is beyond the pail, it’s mostly about giving money to people who don’t need it by cutting programs that people need in the name of “small government”. 

    1. The present Medicare system is all about subsidizing health care payments to doctors and hospitals paying far more than needs to be paid.

  44. Even if he didn’t have that Medicare noose around his neck, Ryan’s selection wouldn’t have been enough to swing the election in Romney’s favor.  He is a better choice than vapid Dan Quayle, or attention ho Sarah Palin were because he appears to be a candidate with no personal baggage, and he appears to be sincere in his belief system, but Romney’s flaws as a candidate are too strong to overcome.

    1. Obama’s flaws are too strong to overcome, but all the socialists and people who get a headache from thinking will still vote for him. If he gets back into office, I will certainly be emptying my 401k, everything I have in the stock market and will be taking all of my money out of the plethora of banks I am invested in. He will be going after everything everyone has. He wants to do to all industrys what he did to GM, help them and bankrupt society. Good luck to all if he gets back in, because this country as we know it may indeed fail, fall and cave.

  45. GE didn’t pay any taxes either
    Its called good business tactics and you sport engage in tax avoidance
    just like the rest of us ya hypocrite

    And its his money
    So get off our tax paying backs freeloaders

  46.  Here’s a bunch of reasons not to vote for Barry
    Nobel Peace prize
    Price of Gas
    Jobs
    Bridges N Roads
    The stimulus
    Keystone Pipeline
    Dead Voters
    Fast n Furious
    Oil leak
    Windmills that don’t work
    Cap n trade
    Tarp
    Start treaty
    Health care
    Card check
    Arizona border
    Global warming
    NASA
    Acorn
    Public Housing
    h1n1
    Soros
    Electric cars
    Propping up home owners
    Supreme court appointments
    Destruction of the Military DEAD SEALS
    No Women’s Health Care Till its to late
    Zero Foreign policy
    Education Dept
    EPA
    Solendra
    MF Global
    Eric Holder
    Fast Furious
    Bl_ck Panthers
    IRS
    Welfare
    Murder Rate
    Entitlements ……

    1. you left out the price of tea in China and the outrageous cost of re-waxing your dental floss and the dead chipmunks in my woodshed.

  47. Ryan is not a fiscal conservative after voting for the Bush tax cuts, two unfunded wars for Bush, unfunded Medicare Rx plan, and de-regulation of banking regulations that led to the current financial crisis. He is really a disciple of Ayn Rand, a worshiper of her twisted ideas of greed, egotism, and is heavily financed by the Billionaire Club, particularly the Koch bros. His/their agenda is to privatize every function of government, turning it over to the corporations to be run on a “for profit” basis. They want to change the American society, from a society in with all are included, to one where only the few reap the rewards. Government not by and for the people, but instead government by and for the rich. Not that Obama has not been dissapointing, but Ronnie and Ryan are really out of touch on what this country, this society, needs to flourish.
    The people will decide.

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