Disagreeing with Gov. Paul LePage’s statement that Maine students are “looked down upon,” five colleges and universities outside the state say Maine students are not less likely to be considered.
“We look individually at students. Where they come from in terms of states certainly has an impact on who they are, but we wouldn’t say students from a state in general are not strong,” Jacqueline Murphy, admissions director for St. Michael’s College in Colchester, Vt., said.
Last year, the percentage of students accepted at St. Michael’s who were from Maine was 5.3 percent, slightly higher than the percentage of students from Maine who applied, 5 percent. That implies Maine students seemed to be more qualified, Murphy said. “That says something right there.”
Last month, LePage said Maine students are looked down upon when they go to other states for school or work. “I don’t care where you go in this country. If you come from Maine you’re looked down upon,” LePage said. “Twenty years ago, if you came from Maine, they couldn’t wait to get you into their school.”
LePage made those remarks during a press conference outlining his new education initiative, the “ABC Plan.” ABC stands for accountability, best practices and choice.
LePage also said Maine students need to take a special test to be admitted to William and Mary college in Virginia. However, a college spokesman said that was not true.
After LePage made his “looked down upon” remarks, his press secretary, Adrienne Bennett, said LePage formed the belief from his life experience.
“He is a businessman. It’s from his life experience of talking to people,” Bennett told the Bangor Daily News. “While it’s anecdotal, he believes it.”
At her Vermont college, Murphy said she is “very aware of the fact the SAT is taken statewide” by high school juniors in Maine, a “huge initiative” by the state to encourage a college-going culture. Most states don’t do that, she said.
At the University of New Hampshire, it’s “not true” that Maine students are looked down on, said Sharen Gibadlo, senior associate director of admissions.
“Any student who applies and meets the requirements is going to have every due consideration,” she said.
UNH has many students from Maine. Last year, 800 applied for the freshman class and the school accepts between 70 to 75 percent of applicants. The Maine numbers would not be different, she said.
“Nothing would lead us to believe Maine is sending inferior students,” Gibadlo said.
In upstate New York, Elmira College admissions spokeswoman Christine Brown said the college has a large number of students from Maine.
When they get an application from a Maine student, “we get excited” that Maine students are considering Elmira, she said.
Boston University doesn’t regard Maine students any differently than students from other states either.
“Students attend BU from every state in the country and 140 countries across the world,” university spokesman Colin Riley said. “Every year we have students from Maine who apply and are accepted and do very well.”
At the University of Arizona, admissions director Rafael Meza seemed puzzled when asked if the school regards Maine students differently than students from other states.
“That’s an interesting question,” Meza said.
The mission of the University of Arizona is to serve in-state students first, so Arizona students are accepted before students from Maine or other states, he said.
Beyond that, “there is nothing that would make us treat nonresident students from Massachusetts or Maine any differently or any less,” he said.
Last fall, there were 22 students from Maine at the University of Arizona, he said.
When deciding which students to accept, the fact they’re from Maine doesn’t matter, he said.
“We would take a look at what they bring to us, academic preparation, how they took advantage of their high school, home school or charter school,” Meza said.



Surprise, Surprise! We knew this was not true…..just blowing his steam to make his point more believable which backfired once again. Stick to the script when speaking publicly.
Lepage has made it clear more than once that he lives in a world of lies. For a man w/an oversized ego, he has no pride whatsoever.
47% of maine high school graduates who did not go on to higher education are out of the work force…..sorry it wasn’t said pretty with roses……its an embarrasing view of maines education…maybe you can frame it prettty for your freinds,…let the Gov. try to unravel 30 years of educational experiementation on our kids…
I am wondering where you got your figures. I’ve read somewhere that around 22% of Mainers have a college degree, so 78% do not. If 47% of those who do not are unemployed, doesn’t that make over 30% unemployed? Does that sound reasonable? It doesn’t to me.
Of course, if your reasoning processes are reflected in your post, then I guess I’d have to agree with Mr. LePage.
great, great reading by a partisan dem group that uses official state of maine stats…Maine Kids Count 2012…see how your county, state and city did….
Lepage is like a carnival hustler, trying to con a couple of bucks from the gullible. The
means justify the ends for this unremorseful liar.
80% of Maine last election did not think your way was the right way to continue….those are really bad numbers
What do Maine colleges think?
LaPage has had a lot of social trauma in his life. This being said brings out his narcissist behavior. This guy will insult anyone. Just to prove he is right. LaPage has been doing this even before he was in office. We need a law to have mental testing done before that person can be Governor.
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they’re superior to others and have little regard for other people’s feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
From Maine Kids Count Book 2012, compiled by liberals…
In 2010, approximately 80% of Maine teens who had not completed high school, were
unemployed or not in the labor force. Of the teens who had completed high school, but
were not enrolled in higher education, an estimated 47% were unemployed or not in the
labor force.
47% not in college or in the work force…..
Your the narcissist…take minute to re-read (or have someone read it to you) the above… LePage puts out the fire and you complain because the fire was pretty.
There is a serious problem as documented above…..Maine administrators have zero to share with other states when it comes to new or successful education initiatives…..Governor LePage steps in to stop the hemmoraging for Maine taxpayers, and you just spew some high school diatribe….sorry it wasn’t said real pretty for you……
Your in an alternative universe and MAine people who foot the bill and businesses hope you are having your mail forwarded, because you are way out of anything that resemebles mainstream..or common sense for that matter….certainly entertaining for you but absolutely void of any useful opinion…
“In 2010, approximately 80% of Maine teens who had not completed high school, were unemployed or not in the labor force. Of the teens who had completed high school, but were not enrolled in higher education, an estimated 47% were unemployed or not in the labor force.”
What does this mean, or what is the context? Just so we can make an accurate analysis, what was the full number of teens in Maine who had NOT COMPLETED high school? How does THAT number compare nationally? You see, 80% of an invisible number is not a number… its a talking point with no detail or substance. Much like saying, “I heard once as a business man that Maine Students were looked down on.” Perhaps he heard that statement from a vender trying to sell him the cure for his concern.
And attributing the kids count report to “Liberals” is a pejorative and argumentum ad hominem , contradictory from the outset. An argument made by a conservative is no less valid due to the conservative perspective then the other way around? This isn’t a football game and teams do not equate to democratic debate.
BJ Kitchin is right. Statistics is number crunching and can be made to say anything that fits the agenda. “80% of Maine teens who had not completed high school” doesn’t related whatsoever to the quality or lack thereof of kids. “Of the teens who had completed high school . . . an estimated 47% were unemployed or not in the labor force” tells us little. Estimated by whom? Who did the survey? When? What percentage of the ‘47%’ are kids who are either unemployable because of mainstreaming challenged kids? What percentage are kids who don’t need to work because of family finances? What percentage are kids who got married and is not working because the wages of the partner are sufficient to support the household?
Yes, it’s called cherry picking and politicians like LePage are notorious for it. Sadly, most people just hear the sound bites and don’t look into the actual statistics/facts. When Bush was in office he’d receive reports from EPA and blacked out the comments and recommendations (99%) that did not bolster his case (to ease up on environmental reguations), Welcome to America!
The whole document outlines Maine crisis in welfare and education…..The only cherry picking would be if i picked one positive point…but they are far and few between..
That was my thought too. Freshman, who must count for over 30% of the high school population (accounting for drop outs in higher grades) are often not old enough to work…I believe the regular working age is 15, so if they counted me in the fall of my freshman year, I wasn’t old enough to work, but would be counted as ‘unemployed’ by this poll. Also, during the school year, I think it’s perfectly acceptable for a student to not have a job if they maintain good grade and are busy with extra curricular activities. If this poll was taken during the summer (do we know when it was taken?) the numbers would be very different.
Polll….you are kidding right…Maine Kids Ccunt 2012…..google it…it compiled by your buds…so either they are liars or lePage is wrong…..read the crisis and make your own judgement
Well, if those are my options, I’m going to go with the latter.
Not to mention how soon after graduation. I don’t know how these stats stack up at other schools, but where I taught, each senior’s post high school plans were posted on a bulletin board by the guidance office. As graduation neared, all but a very few had solid plans to work at a job(not too many), enlist in the service (about 20%) or go to college or trade school (about 60%). This was the norm year after year. These facts don’t seem to jibe with rmwaldo’s 47% figure, which I’m sure comes out of thin air.
the figures are from official state stats….compiled by the Maine Childrens Trust…your liberal friends….
80% graduation rate…..LePage is right…nonody talks or cares about states that have an 80% rate ..especially combined with Maines disconnected youth right out of high school…sorry lePage sucks at fluffing really bad news….he should work on that…but until then…people are working to unravel a 30 year failed education experiment…just like the rest of the country is….
When the radical right tea party parrots do not have facts they just come up with something they claim was authored by liberals to justify their position. The fact is LePage got caught once more in a lie and his tea party parrot supporters will try to deflect away from that fact.
Why don’t you and the AcerbicONE go to Maine Kids Count 2012 for yourself…don’t be so lazy….
There are certainly problems with the education system in Maine and elsewhere but that doesn’t give him the right to make things up! Oronowoman is right on the money with her diagnosis of narcissistic personality. He meets DSM criteria to a tee. He’s a loose cannon who needs to find another line of work. He is not putting fires out; he’s just adding fuel to the flame. He makes these outrageous comments for the attention he didn’t receive as a child? Boo Friggin Hoo. There are lots of people out there who have been neglected or abused and they are nothing like him…. grow up Governor.
Are you sure you’re responding to the correct comment? Nothing in your comment is related to either the article or the comment you’re responding to, except where you call the commenter above you a narcissist. The tiny little snippet that you included above, regarding the unemployment rate among teens, is so completely devoid of context that it is a useless statistic. It also has nothing to do with whether students from Maine are perceived as less capable than those from other states. So, other then taking a chance to cheer for Lepage and insult oronowoman, what’s your point?
Also, before you question the ability of somebody else to comprehend what they’re reading, you may want to take a few spelling and grammar lessons yourself.
NUTS
LePage put out the fire? More like he was the arsonist who started it.
I’ll refrain from commenting on other aspects of your post.
Maine Kids Count 2012…theres your source…see how well your state, county and city is doing…..sorry LePage sucks at giving really bad news…he should fluff that up a little for you…
Let’s just go with the notion that our Governor is a chuckle-head whose mouth works faster than his brain. By the way BDN – I love the picture that you used with this article. It is one of my favorites – he looks so dreamy-eyed and out to lunch.
Why couldn’t he be a chuckle-head whose mouth works faster than his brain with narcissistic personality disorder, too ?
It’s more than that. He’ll make up facts or lie to get his way and if that does not work, he’ll phyiscally intimidate people. Remember how he got in the face of that woman reporter in Portland?
The really scary thing:
Lying or not lying doesn’t seem to matter to LePage. Human beings tend to be more psychological than rational, and what he says appeals to that hidden psychology.
If our country becomes majority-ruled by people who are vulnerable to blatant lies, because they only hear what they want to hear, we are doomed.
Excellent point, Spruce. To take it a step further, the GOP dumbing down agenda got sold to Lepage and he, in his limited wisdom, swallows it and passes it along. Underlying all of it is money.
um…..80% of maine voted against democrats leading maine..thats really…really bad
After LePage made his “looked down upon” remarks, his press secretary, Adrienne Bennett, said LePage formed the belief from his life experience.
“He is a businessman. It’s from his life experience of talking to people,” Bennett told the Bangor Daily News. “While it’s anecdotal, he believes it.”
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This is the problem with LePage and so many teapublicans, they hear something and believe it to be true. It’s all based on what they think they see.
He’s cried wolf so many times he’s not credible anymore. Just like so many comments (here) based on anecdotal stories.
LePage surrounds himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear.
I think that is more typical than unusual. I’m not saying LePage is right, just acknowledging human nature.
Our paradigms cause us to disregard information that does not fit the paradigm, and to have associates who share paradigms.
His “life experience” is whatever the Koch brothers and/or ALEC tell him it is. He’s a none-to-bright corporate puppet and shill for the out of state teasipper interests.
Ms Bennett says that his statement was based on his personal experience. Is Husson still in Maine? That’s the school he attended.
Lepage should take out a full page ad in all of the newspapers in Maine and apoligize and admit he was wrong and really doesn’t know anything about Maine students. And pay out of his own pocket because the State of Maine can not afford to pay for each and everyone of his frequent blunders.
He is not wrong. People in other states make fun of Maine all the time. It is 100% true. I have to defend my UMaine education constantly. Even my classmates from away agreed that the locals seemed “behind”. regardless of whether or not it’s true, Maine is absolutely perceived this way.
So you’re saying that even if Mainers are not behind, but only perceived as behind, we have to revamp the whole system?
very true erix….
I have visited places all over the United States and served in the US Navy and not once did ANYONE ever say anything derogatory about me being from Maine….(I did graduate from a Maine high school and a Maine college)
Born, raised and educated in Maine (Masters UMO) . I have traveled abroad extensively and have never heard such comments and much of my time has been spent at various universities. Maybe you need to start hanging out with a different crowd. How insulting!
UMO doesn’t exist.
Seriously? I’m not sure what you mean by this? My grandparents, parents, aunts/uncles, brothers, husband and I are all alumni. It’s UMO (University of Maine at Oron0). It’s all the same to us and we are very proud of our educstion! My hubby has worked for UMO for 30+ years. What’s your experience?
It’s The University of Maine and has been since 1986 and prior to 1967. My experience? At least I know what the correct name of the school is.
well look who we chose for a Governor.. Really not a smart move was it.. Many places respect anyone from Maine due to their hard work and ethics. Unlike our Governor, I am very proud of the individuals we have here in Maine..
The majority of Maine voters didn’t choose LePage but we’re stuck with him anyway. The flaw that caused this needs to be corrected.
ohh, sorry….80% of the people of Maine did NOT want a democrat…theres your number…
you just want someone to talk nice while maine joins other states over their financial cliff…..Maine taxpayers and businesses are wicked happy with the governor…now let see, what people are not? Those who want to continue Maine to fulfiill its 30 year liberal experiment…
You need to hang around another group of people. In my 30+ years working as a consultant to many private and public sector organizations, I never once heard anyone make fun of me because I am from Maine. Most are surprised and comment immediately about how beautiful Maine is, or a trip they did to Maine. Never a negative.
I have received a number of, “you don’t sound like you are from Maine” as I do not have any type of Maine accent. I do hear “you are from New England” because of my speech. That’s about it, but even then, it is not negative. I would say to the contrary, it’s a positive reaction.
this story was never about people of maine being made fun of. The liberal wackos took our dismal excuse for education and turned it into that…no one in education across the country talks about what maine has done, what they are doing now or what they are doing in the future….that was the only thing Gov. LePage was talking about….and those that want to continue the 30 year experiment on maine kids are pissed…..
Perhaps, I should have included, “… or that I attended UMA.” In fact, many commented about how they attended their own State’s university system.
When I was in high school in Waterville, my junior and senior years I had classes in what was then called “data processing” which later became my career. We had (gasp!) Federal funding of a library, media center, and over 200 different periodicals providing us with a very broad “liberal” education. We could take home copies of framed art masterpieces. We had a large collection of music and even video (it was 1973) available whenever we wanted it.
I’m not sure how you wove in “liberal wackos” into all this. Would you
rather have the “religious nutbars” and their Creationism taught in our
schools?
As far as people talking about what goes on in Maine, I recall reading of some awards a few years back to the University system for some kind of research grant because they were leading in whatever research it was (sorry, I can’t recall the specifics, but I think it was UMO).
Education is critical and funding cuts and salary cuts are a false economy. If it were me, I would hire the best teachers and administrators, get the best equipment and facilities, and reap the benefits in a generation or two. Don’t believe this works? Look at the private prep schools and what they turn out for students – the best of the best, time and time again.
You get what you pay for. You can end up with a Mississippi-type Creationism education, or you can fund those “liberal wackos” (just like the prep schools do). The choice is yours.
um….Mississippi’s graduation rate is 7% higher than Maines…and 62% of students in that state are at poverty level…i think there are states that would make a better conmparision….Maine (taxpayers) are NOT getting what they are paying for….that is the problem, not some statement from the Governor you didn’t like or understand…
That’s not the numbers I’m seeing.
http://www.higheredinfo.org/dbrowser/index.php?measure=23
In 2009, this chart shows Maine’s graduation rates at 87.6 with Mississippi at 59.5.
The average in the USA is 70.5%. The high-end is Maine at 87.6.
In a Washington Post report this year, high-school graduation rates are going up.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/high-school-graduation-rate-rises-in-us/2012/03/16/gIQAxZ9rLS_story.html
And, regardless of the numbers, the Governor could show a bit more class and at least use numbers instead of supposition.
And that’s only if you can find people who don’t think Maine is part of Canada.
He’s not wrong?
Are you saying that it is true that colleges give a special test to students from maine to apply there?
That is what the governor said and it’s not true at all.
Really? I am not originally from Maine, and I have done a bit of travelling in my life. And I have never heard any derogatory remarks made about Maine or people from Maine. Except from people who live in Maine.
I guess someone overlooked my vote during the election for governor.
Dear Disqus,
Could you please provide a list of words and infractions that make your comment review worthy? it would be much appreciated.
I don’t think it’s similar to TV-you know -the eight words you can’t say on the tube. It’s a judgement call.
im not so sure.I think its an automated system that flags them for review before they are even posted because its instantaneous. No one would be able to review it that fast. There has to be key words that the computer looks for to send it to the moderator.
At least nothing in your question triggered an instant response. Carefully look out a side window and see if there are 4 guys in a black sedan staring at your house.
Its just a static list of words that the computer disallows all the time. Its incredibly easy to do. Tinfoil-hat scenario does not apply.
That is precisely how the system works. There is a list of words that are flagged immediately and the post put into a queue for review. The slow-to-vanish messages are ones that are flagged by users (humans).
It’s hard to ask Maine student what they think because they are too busy leaving the state.
Okay, then ask the ones who are coming in.
Now, now, now, let’s not confuse the LePage with actual FACTS from actual colleges who can offer real live statistics rather than the LePage’s anecdotal ‘life experience.’
Maine has become Mississippi..Lepage is right…what do you expect in one of the biggest welfare states in the union…sit home be lazy and collect someone else’s money//come one welcome to Maine
That has nothing to do with the young Mainers that are trying to further themselves.
If young Mainers wanted to get ahead then they would leave the state. I love Maine I grew up there attended John Bapst went to college out of state and never went back…As matter of fact my Dad told me he would kick my but if I went back….there is nothing there anymore…It has become a welfare, uneducated mess of idiots…too bad
If you reveal your name and address I’ll bet a whole bunch of us could come down to the promised land and kick your #$%^ and save your Dad the trouble. With your attitude and self importance I’ll bet he did it more than once. Glad you moved.
Why are you even reading the BDN if we’re just a bunch of morons that you’re glad you left behind?
So you only make comments intended to ridicule now that you don’t live here???
So did you get to skip the French Fry station and go right to the burgers? You can get ahead much faster out of state.
Left Maine 1996 working 3 jobs making around 25k a year between the part time jobs…within 10 years I was making well into 6 figures so yes you could say I skipped the fry station
Why didn’t you convey to all of us your personal experience in the beginning rather than beat the crap out of everything in the great state of Maine. That didn’t hurt did it? Congratulations on your success! You should be proud.
It is acceptable in polite society to be proud of one’s accomplishments. To use them as something to separate oneself from the “little man” is boorish.
How is your quality of life….pretty stressful, huh? How is your blood pressure….pretty high, huh? There is a reason you are making large money and you pay the price in other ways. I have multiple degrees, left the state, attended a private school all paid, but I came back because quality of life is a better option than being a money monger at a high stress level and not having time for the people you love. I came back for a better life.
Greed is good stress is good..it is what drives the market…Money makes the world go round…it is what it is…lived without and life much better with it
Now, that sounds like something you just thought would be cool to say. It’s crap, of course. There’s much, much more to life.
Unfortunately for me I guess I believe that.. I feed on the stress and the money is the reward…I truly believe greed is good and a truly free market thrives on it…The progressives have got to go..as TJ said “Equal Opportunity Not Equal Outcome” not all of us can sit around and sing songs and give the peace some of us have to make the hard choices and drive this country forward…distribution of wealth is nothing more than larceny…
Greed. That says it all regarding who you are in this country. That is why our country is in the mess we are in….because of greed.
you sound so very special
I came here in the late 80s, have never worked more than one job, make well into six figures, have limited stress and could retire anytime. What did you do wrong to have to leave?
And you believe everything Daddy says?
Significantly, you didn’t say anything on how you’re regarded as being from Maine. That’s the point of the article we’re discussing.
Please don’t hurry back, even for a vacation. Contrary to what you think, some Mainers are educated-and smart enough to not even miss you. Imagine that.
Nothing here anymore? I have an excellent, well-paying job, and apparently lots of other people do too, because the parking lots here are filled with high-end German and Japanese cars, and the most expensive restaurants are always full. Are welfare benefits that generous?
You conservatives love to exaggerate the story to fit your cookie cutter scenarios. People need help because there are no jobs.
If there were jobs there wouldn’t be as much need. Maine has a bad economy not bad people.
Why is the south floundering? Because its been run by republicans for way too long.
I was harsh with my comments but that is what Maine needs to wake up. The state has become nothing but a bunch of blood sucking parasite progressives who believe in handouts..they fight every opportunity for industry and real jobs…people get excited over a Wal-Mart being built..give me a break..and no I do not live in South I would never do that..spent enough time there in my Navy days..I get nervous going below the Mason Dixon…it is sad that so many have to leave to survive..Maine is by far the most beautiful state in the lower 48….sorry I offended…and good luck Lepage was the best thing to happen to that state in a long time…at least you are getting rid of the imposter Snowe…
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People are blood-sucking parasites. OK. I guess next you’ll suggest that they should be rounded up, put in camps, shot, etc.
You have absolutely no idea who is really screwing this country over. Its not the people at the bottom (hint – look at whose telling you to view people as blood-sucking parasites.)
That is correct “Blood Sucking Parasites” being in the so-called “rich” tax bracket trust me when I tell you I pay more than my fair share of taxes so a bunch of people can sit on their behinds…I got laid off in 2010 guess what I went out and found another job…I did not complain or look to the government to solve my problems…years ago I worked 3 jobs in Bangor to make ends meet I had enough..I certainly know who is destroying this country and it is called Progressives and the Liberal party and of course the great god Obama…
Good for you that you found another job. Consider yourself blessed.
Ah, so things are not so rosy wherever you are.
by far the most beautiful state? I don’t know how you can make that claim. There are many beautiful parts of the country and they are all beautiful in their own way. There are many amazingly beautiful places among the Rocky Mountains. I can not say the Maine coast is any more or less beautiful though.
Unbelievable. For an “educated” person, you sound totally oblivious to the truth. Instead, you have your mind made up and nothing will change it. That is the sign of ignorance at its worst and a very common fault of a teapartier. Your very words, in fact, sound like they are taken verbatim from a tea party playbook.
Right back at you pal…you simply do not get it… take an economic class pal..learn something..Romney Ryan repeal repeal
If I do take the class, I’ll be sure to take it in Maine…that’s where we know enough to call it “economics” class and where we learn to punctuate correctly. I see you’ve forgotten all that.
Maine students and former Maine students should respond in the thousands to this lie. I can’t believe a governor would say such a disparaging remark about people he represents. I was a Maine
student, I have kids who were Maine students and who have succeeded with flying colors internationally.
I have been a teacher and know that Maine students who want to succeed do.
Our so-called governor is perpetuating a lie to promote his own agenda of dismantling public schools and replacing them with charter and online schools. He is a disgrace to the state of Maine.
I’m going to defend our Governor. He based his comments on his business experiences-talking to people all over the country- AT JUNK AND SALVAGE YARDS.
LePage is enrolled in the ABC plan, “All But Competent”.
LePage’s ABC “A Big Con”
80% of people last election did not agree with the democrats….those numbers are…..really bad….
He suffers from a strong case of word vomit! Where is his publicist? Nothing like boosting the moral of young Mainers and inspiring or encouraging them when it comes to their future! Boy oh boy – I hope that he does not get re-elected. He is the reason why Mainers are “looked down” upon!
BDN: You’ve got to be kidding!
Under the photo of LePage: “Buy Photo”
Really? Why would anyone want to do that?
For teeth whitening…… before/after
Darts…
According to Collectors World Magazine-Governor Lepage’s likeness may be substituted for any missing Beanie Baby or Hello Kitty collectible. Boy-I hope that’s true.
I grew up in Lincoln and received a forestry degree from UMaine in the 80’s. UMaine is considered one of the best forestry schools in the nation. I have had a very successful career and currently work for the U.S Forest Service in North Carolina. I have never been put down because I am from Maine. I feel bad for the people of Maine that you have Governor that constantly puts his foot in his mouth.
19 posts so far and nary a single LePage supporter.
11.5.2014 = Liberation Day
Maybe because that group has to work?
It is hard to support the gov. when he lets his mouth engage before his brain.maybe he needs more down time at brucies club
Mr. LaPage ought to speak from a script that has been edited/fact-checked carefully by someone who is able to convey the essence of the Governor’s intent–while ensuring there are data available that can accurately back up his statements. By now Mr. LaPage and his support team should know better than to make sweeping categorical assertions based on opinion that cannot be supported by facts. Continuing to spew “opinions” as fact–particularly the one that got this controversy started–only make one person from Maine look bad before the eyes of the rest of the country.
Good comment. Now that I think about it- we have not heard the words-“In a prepared statement today” Governor LePage spoke about……..
Maybe he should use a good script writer and a teleprompter? :)
Or, he should just not be speaking. Two more years to go ………
No. Let him continue his blathering BS.
Just make sure to vote out the Rs from the Legislature so Pauly can’t do any more real damage.
again, the only people the rest of the US looks down on (from ME), are the people who voted for this Gov.
When I first glanced at the story quickly-I though it said colleagues-not-colleges. That seemed strange to me as only professional people have colleagues.
LaPage seems to forget the old adage: “Be sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear.”
The Governor is using the “house is on fire” mentality that many in his party use to get voters riled up- sometimes unnecessarily so.
Well, you have to forgive him, after all – he does NOT have a clue!!! My son attended UMO, got his degree in engineering and has been employed by two universities so far. They were estatic when they found out he graduated from UMO and he was hired immediately. He left the first university because his wife was ill and they returned to HER home state where he found employment at the second university–LOOKED DOWN ON?? I DON’T THINK SO!! But— that is just ONE story!!! He now has his masters in Math and Computer Engineering
UMO doesn’t exist.
Really?? When did they shut down the University of Maine at Orono??? (UMO)
1986. The school was “UMO” for only 19 years. Before and since then, it has been called The University of Maine.
Orono is just UM now.
Exactly. In truth, UM should never have been “at Orono”. You can blame the 1967 legislature for that one…
It is UMaine or University of Maine. I know. I work there. Wish people would stop using a name that hasn’t existed in over 25 years.
Thank you!
Big winds come from empty caves.
So is it “mental” to pass welfare reform, pension reform, largest middle class tax cut in Maine history, crinimal prosecution for Violette at the Maine Turnpike Authority, reforms at Maine Housing Authority… in two years. LePage’s rhetoric is a part of his character. He’s a reformer that Maine needs and appreciates instead of 35 years of one party sitting on their hands letting our state fall apart. Our education system needs reforms, but don’t criticize our Governor for trying to fix our problems… unlike a different party. LePage 2014!
If he wants to do something to improve this state maybe he should know a bit something about it.. He has done nothing but insult and discourage students, families, etc with every word he has spoken.. How is that improving our states well being. I am all for improvements but have a bit of respect for those who are out there working their butts off to improve their daily situation instead of stomping everyone in the ground further. He is suppose to be supporting Maine, not causing everyone to want to leave because he is a joke of a governor.. I am so glad he was able to get a break and better himself, YAY for him.. BUT he has some serious issues that come out of his mouth every time he speaks.. Instead of making this a personal issue he needs to speak for the people, not for himself..
How much more could he be accomplishing if he kept it at a professional level? He’ll get nothing done in the last two years of his current term if his own party abandons him if it appears that either he’ll not run or can’t win.
Well…you can thank the pensioners for the tax cut because they funded it! Senator Katz prosecuted Paul Violette, who was worthy of what he got. I still haven’t seen the smoking gun at the Housing Authority and “welfare” reform, which I agree is necessary, is still open to federal approval. LePage’s problem IS his character and rhetoric. It’s his way or the highway (well…unless he has to sell publically approved bonds to fund the highway). We need a uniter..not a divider! Anybody but Lepage in 2014!
Only one i see being looked down upon from the state of Maine, is the one supposedly running it..Paul Lepage…National Laughing Stock.
most of the people i knew in college at Husson…and sadly yes NESCOM have good jobs…I however have the best job…early retirement and state pension
Guess I called the “unemployed by choice” thing right in the other article.
Damn I’m good….
Part of what I’m seeing here is a governor complaining that our colleges are not properly educating our young people to enter a nearly non-existent job market in Maine. How many of our “improperly” educated young people have left the state and found work because of this. I, personally, know one brilliant young woman who graduated UMO several years ago on a full boat scholarship in engineering. Upon graduation, she had to leave the state to find employment. Of course, I suppose she could have taken a job at Mardens as a reward for her hard work.
UMO doesn’t exist.
There you go again. Please get a grip and a life. No one but you cares whether is UMO or UM. Arrogance coming from either one does not wear well.
Yes, but ignorance and not knowing the name of the school doesn’t wear well, either.
Not true. The name does matter.
I used to like to post derogatory comments about the Governor, as he was lighting little matches on these issues of his sanity and I would revel in fanning the flames.
I think that I may stop!
He doesn’t need me anymore!
Now, I can just sit back and watch the spontaneous combustion as he explodes into flames!!!
“Maine Gov. Paul LePage Buy Photo”
Dear god…._why_
I’ve attended selective out-of-state schools and never witnessed or experienced anything like what LePage describes.
However, it is true that as more people around the country read about the governor’s asinine behavior in the national news, people may start thinking of Maine as an uncultured backwater in the style of Mississippi or Alabama. This is unfortunate.
Interesting, too, that his original comment re. Mainers being looked down on ended with the very telling word, “now.” First time he told the truth and then it was by accident.
He’s just great for tourism…who wants to visit a state that is lumped in with some of the states you mention? On top that-if they come here, they have good chance of being blasted out of their cozy little seaside inn by now legal fireworks-another genius move by our Governor.
Somebody has to be enterprising enough to make a Halloween mask from that picture.
Who agrees with him? Certainly not the educated.
If you represent yourself as a boorish bully with no filter on what comes out of your pie hole then people will make fun of you. Perhaps this was the “personal experiences” that the Governor in retrospect was referring to ?
if you cant handle the truth, stop reading HERE.
how about asking an out of stater, if out of staters look down upon mainers.
i Am an out of stater, and the answer is …yes. when you hear mainers in
other states, we think ‘sex offenders, pot heads,druggies,alcoholics and ‘not so smart’ people.
umaine was ranked the third most druggie college in the country. considering there
are 6,000 colleges in the country, that is quite a rank
I guess I tend to think of out of staters as having poor grammar and abysmal communication skills.
actually, i am actively working and typing in 5 different screens; grammar errors,syntax errors, missed punctuation and capitalization errors may occur. also, i have to make an attempt to use monosyllabic words versus multisyllabic words as it is a maine forum. i did score in the lower 1/3 percentile range of my high school graduating class but in maine, i am like Albert Einstein.
With your pompous attitude, we don’t want you here either. People from Maine are not accustomed to rude, selfish people. We like to help our neighbors. Bet you have made a lot of friends while you have been here. I offer to chip in for a one way ticket for Einstein…..any others want to chip in, let me know.
lepage is telling the truth, he’s a native born mainer
howie carr , a maine native, says on a wvom radio promo, “1/3 of mainers are high or drunk at any given time”
a college magazine rated umaine, the third druggie college in the country
a winslow convenience store advertises on an outside sign: ‘family beer packages deals”
what opinion of maine would you have, if you were an out of stater? be objective now.
Howie left us long ago. He was raised by an aunt in Portland. Could that have left psychological scars? Does he have residual feelings of being unwanted? Does he have feelings of resentment toward his true parents? Does he equate Maine with his real parents who abandoned him? Then he went to school in Massachusetts and North Carolina. Is he confused about his true identity?
I agree, he is more of an outsider than a Mainer. But that makes him an outsider of Maine with an opinion of Maine. Again, it concurs with Lepage pronouncements.
Did you mean Herman Einstien from Arsenic and Old Lace?
In the sixth grade, in an out of state public school system, Arsenic and Old Lace and John Steinbeck’s Red Pony were reading assignments. Also, we learned about Classical Architecture, specifically capitols and columns. We also had summer reading assignments.
What is sixth grade like in Maine? Comparatively speaking . Incidentally, i had kids go though maine public schools; teachers dressing in sweatpants, female teachers dressing like they are going to a night club on wet t-shirt night.
Lepage is right.
Concentrate on the problems in the state ,not the messengers of the problem.
If I can offer some advice, it would be to give up multi-tasking. Uni-tasking seems more appropriate. OK, sometimes going cold turkey is too much. Drop back to two (2) screens.
Yup.
And we’re the dumb Mainers and you are an example of the much superior-better educated non- Mainer? I just want to be clear on this.
lepage is right
True. Radical, sponge-brained right.
(L)e(P)age is right(.) You just have to work on those writing skills. It will come to you. Don’t give up.
Who taught you grammar, nobody?
I’m a native of Maine, but maybe I can help. This will be quite a chore, but I’m going to try to clean this up for you. Generally, we use capital letters and punctuation marks in the appropriate places. We try to keep things grammatically correct. I’m no expert, but I will do my best. I’ll put parentheses where I think corrections should be made.
(I)f you can(‘)t handle the truth, stop reading HERE.
(H)ow about asking an out(-)of(-)stater (no comma) if out(-)of(-)staters look down upon (M)ainers(?)
(I a)m an out(-)of(-) stater, and the answer is, (“Y)es(“). (W)hen (we) hear (M)ainers in
other states, we think ‘sex offenders, pot heads,(space)druggies,(space)alcoholics(, ) and ‘not so smart’ people.
(UM)aine was ranked the third most druggie college in the country. (C)onsidering there
are 6,000 colleges in the country, that is quite a rank(.)
Hope this helps.
LePage is not a leader. A leader would quietly search out the problems, and go after a solution. The old Maine is gone. We need a leader for the new Maine. We seem not able to progress. Our State is fine, we need a means to fund it, raise more money. A one percent sales tax to fund schools is a beginning, take the load from property and home owners. Up the time to two years residency that one can collect any type of relief. Begin a State O’Maine housing agency. Where private investors can invest and lend residents to buy a first house. Make it a little easier to get an inspection sticker for our cars. Lobby the DC Senate and Congress to introduce a bill that requires the US Military to purchase all it’s supplies and equipment from factories in the territories of the US. This alone should be a homeland security goal. Lend on Common Sense, and allow homeowners to build their own dwellings as they can afford them without interference from towns. Override some of these restrictive laws on housing, so one can afford to build a home. Home ownership is the backbone of Maine, always was, and needs to be. Restructure high schools, make them a model for the Country. Three years and the fourth year students begin college courses in the high school, or go to a community OJT situation.
Now, that sounds like something you just thought would be cool to say. It’s crap, of course. There’s much, much more to life.
That statement continues to puzzle me. “’He is a businessman. It’s from his life experience of talking to people,’ Bennett told the Bangor Daily News.” Does this mean that when he was captain of the ship at Marden’s, he looked down on people from Maine?
In November we will see how smart us Maine students are, first with the ousting of the tea party crowd and then with a recall provision for Governors.
um…80% of Maine people voted for someone OTHER than a democrat last election….dont flatter liberal self…
The only people who ever look down on other people are the ones who don’t feel good about themselves. It is their low self-esteem that leads them to try to feel better about themselves by making other people feel inferior. So who cares what other people think about you? People in recovery have a great saying: “What you think of me is none of my business.”