DUBUQUE, Iowa — Americans already hate politics, and the latest ugly spat between the presidential candidates is likely to sour them even further.
Donna Stehn explained why.
The 57-year-old retired speech pathologist from Peosta, Iowa, already is muting her television when the ads come on. Not all the ads, just those that feature the presidential candidates.
“We’re sick of it,” she said. “All this stuff that they’re saying, it sounds like a junior high school campaign.”
A Democrat who caucused for President Barack Obama in 2008, Stehn attended his campaign rally Wednesday by the banks of the Mississippi River and is enthusiastic about voting for him again. She reserves most of her disdain for what she says are Republican challenger Mitt Romney’s “lies and distortions.”
But she’s also disappointed that Obama chose to engage: He slyly joked in Iowa this week about the infamous incident when Romney drove to Canada on vacation with the family dog in a carrier on the roof of the car.
The Romney campaign, meanwhile, offered its own blasts, suggesting that Obama should take his “campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago.”
From incendiary rhetoric, such as that Romney’s plans for Wall Street would put people “in chains,” to saying that Obama’s campaign “has disgraced the presidency,” the campaign is knocking on the door of being the ugliest in a generation, and the party conventions haven’t even been held yet. It’s unfolding amid claims from both sides that the race will be about substance and big issues.
“Both sides should focus on the positive,” Stehn said. “There’s enough accomplishments. Be bigger and rise above it.”
Given the stakes, that’s unlikely to happen. The latest round of fighting “reinforces the view of a lot of people” that politicians too often are squabbling and not doing what they were elected to do, said Dennis Goldford, a professor of politics at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa.
A Gallup survey last month found that 64 percent were thinking quite a lot about the election. But that’s down from comparable 2004 and 2008 levels, Gallup said, and turnout could suffer.
Indeed, one big risk with ratcheting up the rhetoric, experts say, is that the already-alienated segment of the electorate will find fresh reasons to stay home on Election Day. A new Suffolk University-USA Today poll released Wednesday found that about 40 percent of adult Americans don’t plan to vote this fall.
The main reason? People were too busy, or thought that their votes didn’t matter. And majorities said they didn’t pay attention to politics because it was corrupt and a bunch of empty promises.
Both campaigns might want to think about the fallout of their messaging lately. Stehn said she feared that the president’s remarks on the dog controversy could turn off independents. Crowds laughed, but Stehn said, “If you’re a supporter, you roll your eyes and wish he’d stop doing it.”
Harry Tibbetts, 72, an Obama supporter in Dubuque, said the two candidates “are telling outright lies about each other, especially that Romney guy.”
Still, Obama has “got to come back at him,” the retired Reliant Energy worker said. “You fight fire with fire.”
All signs point to more of the same.
“This campaign is going to set the standard as the most despicable since 1988, and this year it’s both sides who are doing it,” said Tobe Berkovitz, a former Boston-based Democratic media consultant who now teaches communications at Boston University.
That was the year that President George H.W. Bush’s campaign ripped into Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis, the Democratic nominee, for furloughing Willie Horton, a black inmate who terrorized a white Maryland couple while out of jail. The Bush forces had an ad suggesting a Dukakis presidency might mean that more Hortons would be free.
The rhetoric this year is approaching that level.
Earlier this month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., claimed on the Senate floor that Romney had paid no taxes for 10 years, but Reid has offered no solid proof.
An ad by a group that backs Obama tried to link the death of a steelworker’s wife to Romney’s tenure at Bain Capital, the investment firm he co-founded. But the steelworker lost his job at the Bain-purchased Kansas City steel plant after Romney left Bain, and his wife didn’t become sick until several years later. Romney ran an ad calling the charge “disgusting.”
The latest bout began Tuesday, when Vice President Joe Biden told a Virginia audience that Romney “is going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. Unchain Wall Street,” he said, adding, “He is going to put y’all back in chains.” Romney has said he wants to revamp certain regulations that affect banks and investment firms to make them more realistic.
The putative GOP nominee fired back, accusing the White House of fostering “division and anger and hate.” Obama’s allies suggested that Romney had become “unhinged.” Then Romney said Wednesday morning on CBS that Obama “seems to be running just to hang on to power. I think he’ll do anything in his power to try and get re-elected.”
Summertime demonizing is hardly a new phenomenon. In 1996, President Bill Clinton was able to define Republican challenger Bob Dole as closely tied to congressional Republicans who were falling out of public favor. Backers of President George W. Bush raised questions in 2004 about the Vietnam War service of Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic standard-bearer and a decorated veteran.
What’s different this year is that the rough-and-tumble of the race has come earlier and is harsher, with both sides playing largely to their bases of support. The undecided vote is seen as roughly 10 percent of the electorate, perhaps less, according to recent polling.
Said David Carney, a Republican political consultant: “It’s much easier to turn out 80 to 85 percent of your base than to convince the undecided.”
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2012 McClatchy Washington Bureau



How’s that hopenchange working for all you libs now?
What would they know about working, (unless it’s the system).
Actually, it’s working extremely well, not just for us libs, but for all Americans.
It halted a recession, stopped a depression, saved Detroit, kept our economy from collapsing, killed bin Laden, got us out of Iraq, created between 1-3 million jobs, ended DOMA, gave us healthcare reform that’s been overdue for decades, dealt with the Libya crisis without getting us involved in yet another military occupation, gave us a presidential endorsement of gay marriage, brought taxes lower than they’ve been in 30 years, and resulted in the smallest increase in government spending since the Eisenhower administration.
The recession is still ongoing, the depression is on the horizon, the taxpayers lost nearly 30 billion in the auto bailout, the economy is on the brink of bankruptcy, bin Laden was killed by continuing the system put in place by Bush, we left Iraq on Bush’s timeline, there is a net loss of jobs, DOMA has not ended, Obamacare will bankrupt the country and ruin healthcare, Libya was a back-seat victory where Obama chickened out and gave the lead to weaker countries, gay marriage goes against the moral fabric of America, lowered the only tax that supports Social Security and called it a tax cut while imposing rules, restrictions, and higher taxes on small businesses which raised prices for everyone, and when you include the government spending for his 30+ Czars and their offices, with the expansion of a few more federal agencies, government spending is up.
Hope and change is a disaster. In November the change we should hope for is the removal of the Hopey-Changie leader.
Amen!
LOL if saving Detroit means that its okay for Obama to steal GM from its legal and rightful owners to payback his union thugs and ruin America’s reputation as a country that stands behind its laws .. .. .. hmmmmmm
Uh, that never happened. But don’t let that stop you from using false accusations to discredit Obama.
We are Still “Hopeing” for the GoP to “Change” its assault on the American Worker!
Senator Reid, with the blessing of President Obama, has declared war on the American worker and small business by preventing more than 30 bills passed by the House from coming to the Senate floor for a vote. Each bill has legislation that would help small business owners and hard working Americans, but the Senate Majority Leader would rather stand at the podium and lie time after time than to let the American people think the Republicans are trying to do the right thing. Senator Reid is the obstructionist, and the President hasn’t said a word to him in public, because Obama supports the obstructionism. It gives him more fodder to lie about on the campaign trail.
How’s the comedy team of R&R working for you?
Working great. And they will work great for America for the next 8 years.
ü His executive orders have trampled on our constitutional rights.
ü By the end of his term the national debt will be doubled.
ü In 2008 Federal food stamp expense was 40 Billion; In May of 2012 it was 89 Billion.
ü The dollar is worth less.
ü 47 Million people are now on food stamps. In 2008 it was 28 Million people.
ü Food prices are up.
ü The number of people paying taxes is the lowest in the modern era.
ü Household net worth has decreased by 40% in the last 3 years.
ü Home ownership is down to what it was 50 years ago.
ü Gasoline is up, heading over $4.00 a gallon.
ü We have a weaker foreign policy.
ü Obama appeases our enemies and alienates our friends.
ü Obama’s diplomacy is letting Iran make the bomb.
ü We have more expensive health care.
ü According FactCheck.org, ObamaCare made workers pay an average of $132 more for family coverage just this year.
ü We have greater unemployment.
ü Obama does not know the art of working with Congress.
ü Obama has made government less transparent and more coercive and intrusive.
ü Obama chooses to divide America and not unite America.
ü Obama is a lazy president, 18 vacations in less than 4 years!
ü Obama has already done over 150 fund raisers, more than the previous 6 presidents combined.
ü Obama thinks ideologically and not intelligently.
ü Obama speaks smooth, Using floating abstract phrases that may sound good, But when put into policy have disastrous economic consequences: For a government cannot increase services and simultaneously keep taxes constant.
ü It is no longer hope and change: it is hype and blame.
ü Obama is a radical socialist disguised as a Democrat.
ü He hides behind the facade of a Democrat.
ü His speeches are filled with lies.
ü He abuses the law and the constitution.
ü He is a lying arrogant narcissist.
ü He thinks he is above the law.
ü He is coercive and manipulative.
ü He and his administration are corrupt.
ü He is trying to destroy our constitution.
ü As a politician he has failed America.
ü Obama is not for America and American values.
ü Obama is the worst president in American history.
ü Obama is a failed president!
That’s an impressive list of falsehoods, I’ll give you that.
Addressing one of the false assertions in the rant above:In the 2009 fiscal year—the last of George W. Bush’s presidency—federal spending ROSE by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion.
In fiscal 2010—the first budget under Obama—spending FELL 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
As President Obama addressed the crisis left to him by Bush, in fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion, and in fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
But in fiscal 2013—the final budget of Obama’s term—spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Over his four budget years, the rise in federal spending is on track to go from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%. That’s less than half of one percent.
There has been no huge increase in spending, despite Romney’s lies.
[http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/entry/wall-street-journals-market-watch-obama-spending-binge-never-happened?source=em12_20120526_sc_tt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_campaign=em12_20120526_sc_tt]
Corrections:
In the last two years of the Bush Administration, the Dems were in control of both houses of Congress, therefore, they were in control of spending.
Obama hasn’t had a budget since coming to the office. That takes care of the rest of your comment, with the exception of your claim about the 2012 budget (which doesn’t exist). His 2013 budget proposal received no votes in favor. And the CBO has estimated the spending next year to add several trillion to the debt.
By the way, citing barackobama.com will not convince anyone of the truth of your claims. Sorry.
Addressing one of the falsehoods in the rant above:
George W. Bush, was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. President since Herbert Hoover and possibly more than any other President in history.
Even President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was in office 12 years from 1933 to 1945, was on vacation less days than President Bush at 958 days. Calls to several Presidential Libraries reveal that no President can come close to Bush’s 1,020 days on vacation in an 8 year period. Even Lyndon Johnson, who spent 484 days at his ranch in Texas and at Camp David during his presidency, came in under Bush’s vacation time. Some claim the cost of Bush’s frequent trips to Crawford, Texas cost taxpayers upwards of $20 million.
President Obama was on vacation for 26 days during his first year in office (2009). Ronald Reagan spent 42 days on vacation during his first year in office (1981). President George H.W. Bush was on vacation less than his son, 40 days, in 1989, his first year in office. President Obama was on vacation less in his first year in office than the previous three Republican Presidents. [from Politics 365.]
President Reagan, in 1981, spent all or part of 42 days away from the White House “on vacation” at his home in Santa Barbara, Calif, according to Knoller. President Reagan and his wife, Nancy, also spent three or four days around New Year’s Day each year in Palm Springs, Calif., at the home of philanthropist Walter Annenberg. (In 1993 the late Mr. Annenberg founded the nonpartisan Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, which is FactCheck.org’s parent organization.)
President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nation’s capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total “vacation” trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.
Bush’s father, President George H.W. Bush, spent less time “on vacation” during his first year than his son, but spent more days than President Obama. According to travel records provided to FactCheck.org by the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum, the former president took six trips — spanning all or part of 40 days — to the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1989. The archivist at Bush’s presidential library told us she didn’t have a list of all vacations but did have the Kennebunkport visits.
But at least two recent presidents — by Knoller’s count — took less “vacation” time during their first year than President Obama — Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. [from Factcheck.org]
The claim that Bush took over a thousand days of “vacation” is a left wing lie. President Bush spent a total of 977 days at Camp David and at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. During these days, he hosted many world leaders and Congressional members, conducted the countries business, and held press conference after press conference.
Both Camp David and his Crawford ranch were fully equipped to conduct the nation’s business. At both locations, the President was fully connected to what was going on, and always available.
So, you can take those 977 days and subtract them from your “vacation” total. Or, you can keep spreading this left-wing lie.
All presidents are assumed to be “fully connected” and “available” during their vacations. None of the vacation totals included residence at Camp David.
487 of those days were at Camp David. The rest were spent a his Crawford Ranch, where he entertained many, many foreign dignitaries and Congress members, and held a lot of meetings with the press and with others doing the business of the nation.
Facts don’t lie. You just think they do.
EJParsons is correct
Obama has been on vacation for almost four years
For the record, the rant above was cut and pasted from an anti-Obama website. No citation provided, but easy enough to track down.
http://kaystreet.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/march-2012-obamas-50-great-accomplishments-updated-this-month/
Geesh, Until he named Obama I thought he was talking about Bush.
And with umluats no less. From their German reps?
He did make one accurate claim about Obama: “He hides behind the facade of a Democrat”
Very true. He hides behind the facade of a Democrat while acting like a moderate Republican.
why is the truth less truthful if it is cut and pasted ?
preserve freedom defeat obama. I saw that on a bumpa sticker it not original either
Baloney!
Two thirds of that list is the result of the Great Recession and on third is just rhetoic!
Americans love a good brawl. If you have studied American History, you know that elections have always been contentious. It comes down to being able to spin the better story that will resonate with the American public. I do not care for the incivility that takes the place of political discussion today, though. I was pleasantly surprised earlier tonight while listening to a Democrat and Republican on a news show, actually having a polite and informed discussion about local issues. They were obviously both well-educated and more importantly, well-mannered. If this could happen on a local news show, it should happen on the national level.
Ronald Reagan Stopped the enforcement of the Fairness Doctrine that encouraged civility and open discussions in politics. It has been all down hill ever since!
Oh please, they’ve been screeching about Obama hating America and apologizing for it, 2nd Amendment remedies and “taking the country back” — and now they’re going to pretend to be alarmed about the tone? Such phony and transparent outrage.
Who are you talking about? This artical is about the canidates campaigns, not the posters here.
How can anyone support this approach? The party of tolerance? Do you really fall for this?
I’m talking about the Romney campaign. Did nothing to quash the birther issue and lied about Obama saying Obama is going on an apology tour across the globe.
It is interesting to me that the very same people who freaked out whenever there was any criticism of George W. Bush, because he was the POTUS and it was disrespectful are the same ones heaping vitriol toward the current occupant of the White House. In other words, it is only OK to criticize the President when it is not their candidate.
I just cant understand how this is being painted as both sides. Are the Pres, supporters so blinded? Amazing.
“We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than
40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past
writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was
warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the
core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly
impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the
country’s challenges.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html
I like the part about the analogy with football!
” While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their 25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal post.”
Thanks Dlbrt, you’re awesome and I love your style in these forums.
Brings to mind the epitome of desperation: “drop back 40 and punt”. That’s where the Rs/TPers are now.
The Washington Post. I’m sure that’s a reliable, unbiased source for information. NOT!!!
And every and any comment from you is pretty much guaranteed to be biased and untrue. You’re not exact a credible person yourself.
You deny that they’ve criticized both parties when they deserved it?
No. I’ll admit that there is mud being slung from both parties and their PACs. However, this article is slanted to the left and favors Obama.
This db we have in the Whitehouse is the start of all the low and nasty stuff. He is nothing but a product of his upbringing in the nasty and corrupt Chicago political machine. Time to kick this fool out of office.
Baloney. (and I’m being kind)
Obama has single-handedly soiled America’s reputation at home and abroad with his child-like antics. Pusillanimity, Arrogance and Pettiness are the hallmarks of his sojourn at the White House. If ever there was an example of why affirmative action reverts to the corrupt and incompetent, this callow man-child would forever be the poster child for all to see.
Funny, except for when you name him and refer to Affirmative Action, I would have thought you were referring to the previous occupant of the White House, good old George W. Bush. If ever there was an arrogant man-child in office, it was W.
You accidently wrote “Obama” when describing Romney.
Easy solution to this mess. Write in Pat Paulsen. Let these two clowns know that you think a dead comedian would make a better president than either of the them.
And waste your vote – that really solves these problems!
I do not consider it a waste of my vote. I actually think a dead comedian would be a better choice than either of these two. A vote cast for either of these two is just condoning more of the same. They are both totally ambivalent about the plight of the working men and women of America.
The rant that appears first in line on this page, just supports the well-known and obvious fact that these arch conservatives don’t know how to think, they only know how to parrot what their “leaders” – sometimes politicos, sometimes preachers, tell them to think! This kind of rhetoric only hurts the mouth that spouts it – what comes out of our mouths always says more about the speaker than it does the subject it attacks.
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