Obamacare effect on care
I’m not clear on the reason(s) for the pending sale of Mercy Hospital to a for-profit health care corporation (BDN, Aug. 21) but wonder if Obamacare requirements have any influence on a Catholic-affiliated hospital’s decision.
I read a recent report that because of the conflict between Catholic belief and Obamacare, there could be fewer Catholic doctors down the road. They will have to make a choice to deny their faith and ignore Vatican policy to stay in practice and comply with Obamacare demands or leave medical practice for another occupation.
It would be no surprise that because of Obamacare demands, Catholic health care facilities will decrease nationally in number as well. As Jesus said, “You cannot serve two masters.” The short-term effect for Obamacare as-is might be superficial euphoria, but the long-term effect on the nation’s health care system might be a disaster.
Richard Mackin Jr.
Millinocket
Saddened by column
Dr. Erik Steele, I was very sad to hear about your patient who shot himself due to his terminal illness (BDN, Aug. 16). I am also concerned that in your frustration you have decided that physician-assisted suicide is the path you want to take.
I would have preferred that you had educated the patient about his options — like palliative care that helps the patient live his life as well as he can, in addition to hospice care when he can be assisted to die a pain-free, natural death free of equipment, surrounded by the people he loves.
I feel sad for him that he had no hope. I feel sad for his family. They may not have had time to finish their business with him.
Vicki Kolenik
Bangor
Disappointed description
We are glad that your writer enjoyed his lobster dinner in Stonington (BDN, Aug. 23), but we are disappointed that his description of our working fishing village might be a tad misleading to readers. “What passes for downtown Stonington” is actually the downtown, a viable one comparable to that of any other town with a similar population.
The town’s harbor, “a place for not only recreational boaters,” is actually a vibrant and vital working waterfront where the working boats far outnumber the recreational boats. There are galleries along the main street, but there are few “tourist shops” among the other buildings: a newspaper, fishing gear store, town hall, bank, grocery store, library, bookstore, bioresource business, realtors, historic opera house, ice cream stand, year-round restaurant, apparel shop, inn, granite museum and motel. We islanders like our real-life Stonington as a real-life place!
Jean Wheeler
Deer Isle
Park proposal
We are pleased by the decision of the Penobscot County Commissioners to oppose a national park and create a committee to meet on equal footing with any federal agency that might advocate for a park. The possibility of federal control has hindered investment in the region for too long.
Northern Maine needs the opportunity to grow the economy without the threat of losing local control. Gov. Percival Baxter bought the land that he gave to the people of Maine in order to prevent any federal control in Maine’s North Woods. Quimby’s park proposal is a betrayal of his legacy to Maine.
We appreciate the work done on this project by members of our board and especially our vice chairman, Gene Conlogue. We thank Sen. Doug Thomas for being there on Aug. 21 and for his longtime support of our opposition to a national park, preserve or monument in northern
Maine.
Anne Mitchell
chairwoman, Maine Woods Coalition
Rockwood
Silent minority
I’m shocked that many of my “right to life” colleagues are surprisingly silent on the challenges facing my fellow human beings in terms of the fragility of human life. Is our concern for life limited to conception and birth?
Where is the outrage when our state administration keeps threatening on a daily basis to throw people off health insurance, knowing that it’s covering the most impoverished and under-income citizens? We know that accidents, illness and loss of a job can happen at a moment’s notice. We’re informed that eight out of 10 recipients are employed.
Maine’s most precious resource is its people. What advantage is it to our state if its residents are undereducated or ill because of the unaffordability of health care? Every day we hear about fundraisers for individuals because of a catastrophic illness.
We also hear on a daily basis that politicians want to help small businesses. I have yet to hear of government largess from those elected officials flowing into the coffers of small businesses. We know that some of the largest industries do get federal and state subsidies based on the large number of employees. Therefore, doesn’t having access to affordable health insurance and other benefits fill in some of the gap between low pay and a sustainable wage? Isn’t that one of the ways we can help small businesses survive with healthy employees?
Does right to life stop at birth, or does it extend to the grave? If it is the latter, why not expend the same energy to promote life from conception to the grave?
Myra Beaulieu
Madawaska
Extra, extra, read all about it
I am appalled at the Aug. 23 column by Chris Busby, “LePage Has Storm – Possibly Involving a Brain.” It is a disrespectful, arrogant “piece of doo doo” (which is a quote from this bitter rant disguised as a light-hearted joke). And the fact that it was posted on the front page online, as though it were late-breaking news, is even more unbelievable.
There are many people who still believe that the BDN always reports facts and is unbiased. The way this blog is written, there are a lot of gullible people who may actually believe that the governor wrote these things. The author’s insinuation that LePage has a drinking and gambling problem is absolutely libelous. Would you print something this mean-spirited about Eliot Cutler or former-Gov. John Baldacci? I think not!
I have an idea for a truthful headline from the BDN, preferably on the front page: “We Hate Paul LePage and We Are Doing Everything In Our Power to Make Sure He Doesn’t Get Re-Elected.” I encourage everyone to not depend on this or any one media outlet alone to get the facts but to take the time to do some research on your own.
Lisa Norsworthy
Bangor
To Myra Belieau: you’ve captured the truth behind those most passionately behind “right to life” crusades. They generally oppose increases to America’s modest safety net for the poor and the sick and usually want further cuts. And they almost always want increased expenditures for the military and for greater American involvement in wars. Indeed, the GOP platform in Tampa expresses these same sentiments without, of course, acknowledging any contradiction.
A few may exist, but I personally don’t know of any soup kitchens run by liberals. Most of them are run by churches, or mixed-denomination Christian groups. I think you would find that conservatives care far more for lives of others than liberals do. And conservatives are not asking too much for people to be responsible for themselves and their kids, either. Able-bodied people either should get a job, or they should be working somehow to earn their welfare. Working goes a long way toward boosting self-reliance and self-esteem. And using other people’s money to fund a substance abuse pattern is among the worst kinds of theft. Liberals should be ashamed if they are trying to enslave people to get used to living on other peoples’ money.
You seem confused. Didn’t you say you are disabled?
I am sure you have facts to back all this up, would you care to share them with the rest of us?
Your comment is just plain ignorant. Do you research anything before you type.
You demonize liberals without any evidence. The church to which I belong provides volunteers for the Salvation Army coup kitchen once a month and brings over food more often. It separately provides at least 1/4 of the food used every year by a large Bangor food pantry. And NO ONE in the church is a Republican, thank God (no pun intended); no one demonizes our lesbian religious leader; and no one would, as you do, automatically blame the poor for their own situation and relish the opportunity sought by Romney and Ryan to victimize such persons ever more while enriching themselves. President Clinton, of course, greatly toughed the welfare laws and he was no conservative.
WOW! The truth raises a few hackles, doesn’t it? I never said, “There are no soup kitchens run by liberals.” I said, “I don’t know of any soup kitchens run by liberals.” THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! Most charities are run by Christians, no doubt about it. Many liberals don’t even believe in God, so why would they believe in charity, one of the 3 most important Christian virtues?
Able-bodied people should either get a job, OR work for their welfare. Read much?
HonkytonkBob, I am about 85% disabled from illness and by a seizure, but I pay for my own health care and health insurance. I am Medicare and Medicaid eligible, but I choose to try to support myself instead. I have taught myself a way to make a living while I’m propped up on pillows, and using a laptop. I realize that not all people are blessed enough to do that, but Gopher is right, all ABLE-BODIED people who refuse to work (for their job or for welfare) should not eat. (That is taken from one of the Thessalonian epistles, not James). It’s not asking too much for people to learn responsibility when it comes to procuring money, especially when the money is coming from someone else.
And since most poverty is experienced by single mothers with children, it should not be asking too much for BOTH men and women to take the responsibility of not to have sex if they are not married. But I realize that puts a very large crimp in the liberal “if it feels good, do it” lifestyle.
That is a blatant lie.
Your ignorance runneth over here today.
You should be the one who is ashamed.
Heist is under the misapprehension that Christians invented charity and that Christians are the only ones who practice it.
Once again, blanket stereotyping of churches as non-liberal (by your restrictive definitions) or liberals as not involved in charities incvluding soup kitchens. In fact, how did you come to restrict social safety nets to soup kitchens? Are you (churches, that is) prepared to cover services being cut? If so, please publicize.
As for your quote on able bodied people being required to get a job (who’ll pay for day care if needed), I’m sure you’ll refer us to paraphrases on the Epistle of James that if you don’t work you don’t eat. I’ll refer you in turn to the verses in James (Chap. 1, 26-27) that summarize the attributes of a true Christian.
Well look who’s quoting Scrpture! No verses for the homosexual pastor in a church with no republicans(thank God) comment gopher…need help with that one?
Richard, Catholic doctors will indeed have a conflict. But it will be between their faith and the oath they took. It will have nothing to do with ACA. The conflict will be a moral-ethical one. And, if the former wins out then their license to practice needs to be revoked.
I hardly think there is a plethora of Catholic doctors who might face this quandary. More tempest in a teacup.
You are probably right.
I will serve God before I will serve an immoral government. I’m sure many doctors who are serious Catholics believe the same way. Whenever good compromises with evil, evil always wins.
If you will serve your God over the USA, then you are not a patriot.
A religious patriotism test? I thought people came here to escape exactly what you advocate.
Please. You’re an atheist, or so you have stated.
That is my reply to Cheesy.
So do you think we need to have a Religious exam to test ones patriotism?
Ask the majority of the this years crop of Republican presidential candidates.
I think people with Honkies attitude are the bigger danger. Religious test? Really?
Jerk.
No. If there were, how do you think you would fare under the Republican platform as an atheist? About as I well as a Muslim I would think.
Then why did you imply Heistheone is not a patriot?
He doesn’t believe in equal rights, which is what our nation is founded on.
So a religious test is the solution?
Is not what they do for Supreme Court justices a litmus test on abortion.
To quote Heistheone “I will serve God before I will serve an immoral government.”
So Heistheone is not a patriot. PERIOD.
BS. Unless this country has become one where personal religious freedom and patriotism is incompatible. If it is then surely we are ready to come apart at the seams. You have become the people that our ancestors fled from.
Religious beleifs are not incompatible with being a Patriot but a strict adherence to certain religious beliefs go against this country’s core.
I don’t know about your ancestors but the first English settlers fled a country that was persecuting their religious beliefs for being different/more conservative than the country as a whole. Sounds more like the persecution of different religious beliefs in this country by evangelical Christian churches then someone like me, who thinks you should be able to practice your beliefs any way you want as long as they do not discriminate against others.
French, German and Dutch, Spanish and other settlers came to this country to make a better life not because of religious persecution.
The founders of several colonies Mass, Penn, Rhode Island and others were all of different religious sect persecuted in their own countries. England & Netherlands. (In England for lack of adherence to the COE.) The same can be said of more current immigrants from European countries and even some African and Asian countries. Theoretically we don’t test the citizenship of these folks based on their religion. I would hope not.
Strict adherence to ones religious beliefs has always been part of this countries core. Look to the Amish & the Quakers for two obvious examples. A Quakers refusal to participate in combat is NOT proof that he is not a patriot.
A desire to stick to ones personal religious code is NOT proof that they are not a patriot.
But a desire to make others adhere to your religioius beliefs is unpatriotic,
Your examples of Quakers and the Amish miss the point. While they adhere to strict religious beliefs, they do not try to force those beliefs on others unlike American Evangelical Christians do while claiming persecution themselves when they get called on this.
Just look at how the RW attacked the Muslim Congressman from Minnesota, or Hillary Clinton’s Muslim Chief of Staff.
Or how RW Christians are attacking the right of Muslims to build any new mosques or the existance of existing mosques.
Or the RW Christian attempts in several southern States to outlaw Sharia Law by changing the State’s Constitution, which would be unconstitutional.
But we are not discussing what others are doing. The topic was the patriotism of a poster because of his personal religious beliefs. I scanned the poster in questions posts and I see none of those items you object to advocated by him here. Gotta go for the night/weekend. Have a good holiday weekend.
Heistheone “I will serve God before I will serve an immoral government” is what Honkytonk was replying to and I agree with him.
Our forefathers specifically stated that there will be NO religious exam for any office of teh land. PERIOD.
It sounds like you don’t know what that means.
What? That I don’t know what “religious exam for office means or what heistheone means? I think you are deflecting.
Religious Exam or oath means a person has to believe a certain way to assume the office he/she is going to enter. The Founding Fathers did not want our country to become a Theocracy which is the way the Republican PArty seems to want to go. ANd I can think of no theocracy in the history of civilization that was successful or good.
Heistheone believes that the current government is somehow immoral while a government run by conservative beliefs (his beleifs) is somehow moral by definition.
That means that the government can put no limitations on the religion of its officeholders. The individual may, as they choose, vote for or whom they like based on their own religious convictions. Either way that has nothing to do with Patriotism.
It also means the government can put no limitations of a person’s lack of religion for it’s officeholders.
That is correct.
This post seems self-contradictory.
Should have been clearer. I agree with Honkytonk saying that Heistheone is unpatriotic.
A lot of Republicans (and their platform) seem to imply that.
Personally I am, but that means I leave other peoples religious beliefs alone. I am not out to persecute someone else. Live and let live.
You’re not Catholic.
The oath they take is the Hippocratic Oath. They take no government oath. It is an oath they take which binds them to ethical behavior as a physician. If they can no longer act ethically in their capacity as a physician then they should lose their license.
Though an abortion is unethical in their minds as well those who believe life is sacred and not to be thrown away in a trash can or a garbage disposal.
There is a fine line between ethical and moral behavior but it is there. In the former you use say the Kantian Categorical Imperative as a basis for ethical decision making. In the latter you use your God as presented to you by your holy book.
I have more Faithin my Holy Book, than Darwin’s theories.
The only conflict with the ACA is the contraception coverage. Since the law requires the insurance company to cover the contraception rather than the religious employers, then that too is a tempest in a teapot. Federal law does not require coverage of abortions, so why would catholic doctors quit?
There have long been rumblings about Catholic doctors discouraging contrception. Guess it’s coming to a head since Vatican teaching on contraception flies in the face of medical and even moral practice.
Great points Myra. Hope your concerns give others pause to think beyond the rhetoric.
Lisa the Op-Ed pieces are not written by a BDN staffer. I most often see a balance of perspectives with right and left voices being presented. Isn’t that what you expect from a newspaper? Their editorials take a stand and that would be the only way to ascertain what the BDN actually supports.
But is paid by the BDN.
They are paid by subscription. Matt Gagnon is a paid Republican operative. I don’t see you complaining.
Their complaints are rarely consistent or principled.
There is no complaint here. I am simply pointing out that people get paid by the BDN for their opinions.
You have a firm grasp of the obvious.
My response exactly. Thanks for saying it before I did. And, saying it better.
I am not complaining just pointing out inaccuracies.
@Myra- clearly it stops at birth….the GOP does not care if a child is conceived by rape or incest they just want you to have the child BUT AFTER the child is born….they don’t care if the child has food, or shelter, or healthcare, or education, or heat, or a stable home environment, or if they are safe……NONE of that is the GOP’s concern post birth… they just want to make sure you give birth and then it’s all on you and your child to figure out….oh and by the way don’t be a single parent, don’t be on welfare and don’t be a loser.
Republicans are way more supportive of life in all its stages than Democrats are. No surprise there, as Democrats are mostly looking for voters to keep them in power, while conservatives care about actual quality of life. Of course, Democrats disdain responsibility, so they don’t care if their own live off other peoples’ hard work. And if a baby is too much too handle, just kill it. Hey, it’s legal, isn’t it? That way I can just keep having more sex until I get pregnant again, and just use abortion again as my birth control.
How are Republicans supportive of all stages of life? They make their support of pre-birth very clear, and as far as I can see it doesn’t include financial support, nor do any of the other stages of life. What type of support do you mean?
I’m not sure what alternate universe you live in, but I suspect there are unicorns there. Let’s see the last time I checked the GOP was attempting to prevent PLANNED PARENTHOOD (you know one of the biggest birth control providers in this country as well as providing other important services) from even being funded……so try again.
One cannot b*tch about abortion yet in the very same breath disagree about having birth control available or have the basics of avoiding becoming pregnant covered in schools because some how educating people about contraception will ‘make’ them have sex. REALLY? I remember taking, history and yet I am not a history teacher, English- not an English teacher, French- not a French teacher, Science- nope, Gym- no, ……..but being educated about sex and the way to avoid becoming pregnant will result in sexual promiscuity. Hilarious.
You GOP sheeple need to make up your minds- You people b*tch if a woman doesn’t decide to have the baby- you people b*tch if a woman does decide have the baby and then needs assistance after the baby’s born – you people b*tch if a woman wants to use birth control to avoid getting pregnant- you people b*tch if the woman is a single parent…..so WHICH IS IT for you people?
And here’s one more question for you WHAT ABOUT THE MALES WHO ASSIST IN GETTING THE WOMEN PREGNANT??? Or are we still going with the immaculate conception theory here? I find it odd that you folks NEVER seem to mention the males in this process – it’s always the women and NEVER about the males…what a joke and a bad one at that.
Perhaps if the GOP could focus more on the economy and unemployment and less time on sex (abortion, contraceptives and same sex marriage) maybe we could get some legislation passed to assist with the economy and unemployment in this country.
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Ok, list all of the Republican ways for supporting all stages of a person’s life….. go on.
Again, wildly blanket stereotyping of all concderned regardless of party, religion, etc. None of the groups cited have a corner on any of the attributes, desirable, moral or not.
Lisa Norsworthy–BDN also has plenty of letters and editorials from fringe right wing radicals so I can’t say that the one you refer to can be extrapolated to the point that the paper is overtly one-sided.
Hate is a very strong word, or at least it should be–but I can say that I personally strongly disapprove of Paul LePage and am doing everything in my power to make sure he doesn’t get re-elected.
Paul LePage is beholden to out of state special interests and cares not a fig for the people of Maine.
Only 795 days left. The day we send him home to Florida can’t come soon enough.
um…80% of the citizens of Maine voted for someone other than a democrat…..and all legislators (dem & repub) voted for Gov LePage agenda..91% of the time during the last session……I think you better get workin…your hill is higher than you think….nice job ms norsworthy…just remember, Busby is not a journalist but a hack columnist…
If we had instant runoff voting, LePage would NEVER have been elected.
After the neo-republicans lose control of one or both houses in November, our legislature will put a stop to the governor’s madness.
Is anyone working on an instant runoff voting referendum? It’s time to start.
That’s what I expected after the election. I really got the impression that neither party wanted to change it.
Exactlyhow many bills were brought up? I see that number and think that is sounds right because the vast majority of bills are not very complicated.
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80% did not vote for a democrat…that is an indictment on your ideolgy…I did not say voted ‘for LePage’
Anne Mitchell and her friends are confused. Percival Baxter bought the land he gave to become Baxter State Park in order to protect it from private devastation and to preserve it for the public. Gene Conlogue is betraying the future of his own community. Look at how Millinocket has declined by every economic measure since he became town manager. The best that can be said of Doug Thomas is that he is consistent. Consistently leading his constituents down a highway to nowhere. It is sad to see the Penobscot County Commissioners take a stand against the interests of the county residents by succumbing to pressure by a small, extreme special interest group. According to their own website (www.mainewoodscoalition.org/12members.html), the Maine Woods Coalition has so little support they cannot even fill ten positions on their own board.
Gov. Baxter wanted the people to enjoy Baxter Park, he did not want his family involved in running it. He allowed hunting in the Northern Part he changed it a few times to allow more access, not less. Look what the Liberals did to Katahdin Stream and Abol as well as other areas of the park in their convulded desire to transform it from Baxter Park. Such a waste and destruction.
True.
Gov Baxter took the request of a local guide and lodge owner, Arthur Augustine into consideration when he designated the last of his additions to the park.
It is well known that Percival Baxter did in fact buy the land to prevent the National Park Service from getting control of it. Legislation was at that time being pushed in Congress and so it was a real threat. Baxter bought more land than he originally had intended in order to save it from Federal control, which he did not trust, and turned all of it over to Maine to keep it in its natural state without undermining the forest products industry elsewhere.
The National Park System Plan that includes the agenda for Federal control of millions of acres of private property in Maine also explicitly aims for National Park Service control of Baxter State Park. This was the plan hatched in Washington DC in 1988 by the National Park Service and its lobby, which set off the whole insane, ongoing campaign for a Federal takeover of rural Maine. It was and still is intended to impose massive forced wilderness and to eliminate the forest products industry, the private economy, locally accountable representative government, and private property rights across million of acres.
These failed, radical schemes for power have been overwhelmingly opposed across the state and particularly in the targeted areas for nearly 25 years since they were launched from Washington DC and promoted by big preservationist lobbyist like NRCM, Audubon, MCHT, the Sierra Club, the National Wilderness Society and its Massachusetts-based offshoot Restore, and more.
The Maine Woods Coalition is one popular manifestation of the local opposition. Many ordinary people have in self defense for nearly a quarter century given a lot of their time and resources in this political battle, which they never asked for or wanted, in order to save Maine people and the economy against an onslaught of wealthy, politically connected pressure group lobbyists who want the land. Maine Woods Coalition deserves a lot of credit and thanks from normal people everywhere for its continued opposition to this assault. “Wild beau’s” personal smears against Eugene Conlogue, one of the heroes of this battle, and his colleagues in the Maine Woods Coalition, are irrelevant and morally repugnant.
Richard Mackin Jr.–what pray tell are you talking about? I know of nothing in ACA that would force a doctor to do anything against his religious beliefs. Can anybody tell me what is he trying to say???????????????
He is just parroting what he has heard from the RW.
Myra Beaulieu, great letter. The irony of the radical right stand on social issues is pretty hard to believe.
Mr. Mackin, our national healthcare system is already a disaster. How many other industrialized nations can you name that have left millions of their citizens un-insured. Obama care might not be great but it’s a step in the right direction to a national healthcare system that will give all our citizens the health care they have a right to have access to.
By your own words……
Last word.
Cheesy I don’t often take your side but the response you got to your question is unquestionably ignorant and should be #26 on the ways to suppress truth list: Counter with obscene language/gestures.
Did you follow the thread? It had nothing to do with truth or the suppression thereof. It was Cheesy doing his hounding people and putting words into their mouth shtick.
You were hounding another poster about his patriotism if he also has a religious faith. Let’s question your patriotism on the very same issue. After all the first Americans came here in order to practice their faith as they saw it. Now you question their patriotism for doing so? How is that putting words in your mouth? Then you swear at me when I press you on it. How dare you?
Do you remember the child’s toy, “Sit and Spin”?
I wouldn’t want to step on your schtick.
Was not responding to the thread just your response to Cheesy’s question which made your whole argument questionable in my mind. You totally dismiss the question with obscene language which does little to make your case.
I had already answered the question with the word “no”. It appears he is doing it again, this time to pbmann.
I agree with Lisa Norsworthy.
Like LePage, you represent the minority.
80% did not vote for a democrat….legislators this last session voted for Govs proposals 91% of the time…um, what is your definition of minority…look in the mirror friend
Lisa Norsworthy – well said! This paper cannot tolerate a conservative in the Blaine House, and stoops to new lows every week to poison public opinion against him. Busby is a hard left hack, yet despite near unaminous “boy, does this guy stink” comments his “articles” provoke on comments pages, the BDN doubles-down by highlighting him.
Dick Warren, what are you going to do about this?
Near unanimous? I demand a recount.
Myra,
Love the fetus hate the child seems to be the mantra of the right.
We play, you pay…it’s the liberal way!
Another right wing lie.
Every woman who has an abortion is playing around and a liberal. I didn’t know that….thanks for the enlightenment.
One more thing You are not paying for anything. FEDERAL FUNDS are NOT used for abortion.
“every woman who has an abortion is playing around and a liberal”. I didn’t know that, it’s worse than I thought. Thanks for the info.
Republicans don’t have abortions?
Republicans don’t have sex out of wedlock
Maybe you should tell that to Britney Spears, I saw her name on a GOP bragging list.
I’d be proud of that, is she smart then a 5th grader? I’d bet not.
I think the whole thing buzzed right over your head searoses.
I get it all to well!
They don’t get it.
Trying to be cute, you implied it.
Huh?
Richard Mackin~
That’s really melodramatic. Obamacare will help people stay healthy.
Ms. Kolenik~
People should go out of this world on their own terms.
Ms. Mitchell~
A park might be a good thing for Maine.
Ms. Beaulieu~
There are factions in this country who want to keep the poor, poor and sick and without proper healthcare.
Ms. Norsworthy~
LePage is the worst.
Miss Noteworthy; I hate Paul LePage as a Governor and hope he does NOT get re-elected!
and you are in the minority..dont be fooled that everybody feels like you do because they are loud and obnoxious. Most people want a leader who can govern, despite being a little unsmooth..unsmooth does not equate to bad governor…
Most liberals have learned very well that if you yell loud enough and say enough untruth about someone who ideology is different than yours eventually people might believe it….you learned this well from President Reagan era, where you didn’t yell loud enough and mean enough and look what happened, His legacy of american greatness is intact…dont want to let that happen again…
Richard Mackin – Hang in there. In January the wheels of repeal will be in motion. Obama’s prized socialist legislation will be on its way out, and his unconstitutional intrusion into faith based healthcare will end.
You can disagree with the ACA all you want, but you can’t call it unconstitutional. Supreme Court upheld the law, in case you forgot.
5-4 with Roberts bowing to political pressure.
And still constitutional.
“Faithbased Healthcare”? Is that when you pray to get well?
How well does that work for you?
Joan Wheeler, Myra Bealieu: Good letters.
Richard Mackin: doctors and hospitals, regardless of the religion or sponsorship, should follow the Hippocratic oath.