Modernity requires the willingness to be offended. And as anti-American violence across the Middle East and beyond shows, that willingness is something the Arab world, the heartland of Islam, still lacks.

Time and again in recent years, as the outside world has battered the walls of Muslim lands and as Muslims have left their places of birth in search of greater opportunities in the Western world, modernity — with its sometimes distasteful but ultimately benign criticism of Islam — has sparked fatal protests. To understand why violence keeps erupting and to seek to prevent it, we must discern what fuels this sense of grievance.

There is an Arab pain and a volatility in the face of judgment by outsiders that stem from a deep and enduring sense of humiliation. A vast chasm separates the poor standing of Arabs in the world today from their history of greatness. In this context, their injured pride is easy to understand.

In the narrative of history transmitted to schoolchildren throughout the Arab world and reinforced by the media, religious scholars and laymen alike, Arabs were favored by divine providence. They had come out of the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th century, carrying Islam from Morocco to faraway Indonesia. In the process, they overran the Byzantine and Persian empires, then crossed the Strait of Gibraltar to Iberia, and there they fashioned a brilliant civilization that stood as a rebuke to the intolerance of the European states to the north. Cordoba and Granada were adorned and exalted in the Arab imagination. Andalusia brought together all that the Arabs favored — poetry, glamorous courts, philosophers who debated the great issues of the day.

If Islam’s rise was spectacular, its fall was swift and unsparing. This is the world that the great historian Bernard Lewis explored in his 2002 book “What Went Wrong?” The blessing of God, seen at work in the ascent of the Muslims, now appeared to desert them. The ruling caliphate, with its base in Baghdad, was torn asunder by a Mongol invasion in the 13th century. Soldiers of fortune from the Turkic Steppes sacked cities and left a legacy of military seizures of power that is still the bane of the Arabs. Little remained of their philosophy and literature, and after the Ottoman Turks overran Arab countries to their south in the 16th century, the Arabs seemed to exit history; they were now subjects of others.

The coming of the West to their world brought superior military, administrative and intellectual achievement into their midst — and the outsiders were unsparing in their judgments. They belittled the military prowess of the Arabs, and they were scandalized by the traditional treatment of women and the separation of the sexes that crippled Arab society.

Even as Arabs insist that their defects were inflicted on them by outsiders, they know their weaknesses. Younger Arabs today can be brittle and proud about their culture, yet deeply ashamed of what they see around them. They know that more than 300 million Arabs have fallen to economic stagnation and cultural decline. They know that the standing of Arab states along the measures that matter — political freedom, status of women, economic growth — is low. In the privacy of their own language, in daily chatter on the street, on blogs and in the media, and in works of art and fiction, they probe endlessly what befell them.

But woe to the outsider who ventures onto that explosive terrain. The assumption is that Westerners bear Arabs malice, that Western judgments are always slanted and cruel.

In the past half-century, Arabs, as well as Muslims in non-Arab lands, have felt the threat of an encircling civilization they can neither master nor reject. Migrants have left the burning grounds of Karachi, Cairo and Casablanca but have taken the fire of their faith with them. “Dish cities” have sprouted in the Muslim diasporas of Western Europe and North America. You can live in Stockholm and be sustained by a diet of al-Jazeera television.

We know the celebrated cases when modernity has agitated the pious. A little more than two decades ago, it was a writer of Muslim and Indian birth, Salman Rushdie, whose irreverent work of fiction, “The Satanic Verses,” offended believers with its portrayal of Islam. That crisis began with book-burnings in Britain, later saw protests in Pakistan and culminated in Iran’s ruling cleric, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, issuing a fatwa calling for Rushdie’s death in 1989. The protesters were not necessarily critics of fiction; all it took to offend was that Islam, the prophet Muhammad and his wives had become a writer’s material. The confrontation laid bare the unease of Islam in the modern world.

The floodgates had opened. The clashes that followed defined the new terms of encounters between a politicized version of Islam — awakened to both power and vulnerability — and the West’s culture of protecting and nurturing free speech. In 2004, a Moroccan Dutchman in his mid-20s, Mohammed Bouyeri, murdered filmmaker Theo van Gogh on a busy Amsterdam street after van Gogh and a Somali-born politician made a short film about the abuse of women in Islamic culture.

Shortly afterward, trouble came to Denmark when a newspaper there published a dozen cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad; in one he wears a bomb-shaped turban, and another shows him as an assassin. The newspaper’s culture editor had thought the exercise would merely draw attention to the restrictions on cultural freedom in Europe — but perhaps that was naive. After all, Muslim activists are on the lookout for such material. And Arab governments are eager to defend Islam. The Egyptian ambassador to Denmark encouraged a radical preacher of Palestinian birth living in Denmark and a young Lebanese agitator to fan the flames of the controversy.

But it was Syria that made the most of this opportunity. The regime asked the highest clerics to preach against the Danish government. The Danish embassies in Damascus and Beirut were sacked; there was a call to boycott Danish products. Denmark had been on the outer margins of Europe’s Muslim diaspora. Now its peace and relative seclusion were punctured.

The storm that erupted this past week at the gates of American diplomatic outposts across the Muslim world is a piece of this history. As usual, it was easily ignited. The offending work, a 14-minute film trailer posted on YouTube in July, is offensive indeed. Billed as a trailer for “The Innocence of Muslims,” a longer movie to come, it is at once vulgar and laughable. Its primitiveness should have consigned it to oblivion.

It was hard to track down the identities of those who made it. A Sam Bacile claimed authorship, said that he was an Israeli American and added that 100 Jewish businessmen had backed the venture. This alone made it rankle even more — offending Muslims and implicating Jews at the same time. (In the meantime, no records could be found of Bacile, and the precise origins of the video remain murky.)

It is never hard to assemble a crowd of young protesters in the teeming cities of the Muslim world. American embassies and consulates are magnets for the disgruntled. It is inside those fortresses, the gullible believe, that rulers are made and unmade. Yet these same diplomatic outposts dispense coveted visas and a way out to the possibilities of the Western world. The young men who turned up at the U.S. embassies this week came out of this deadly mix of attraction to American power and resentment of it. The attack in Benghazi, Libya, that took the lives of four American diplomats, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, appeared to be premeditated and unconnected to the film protests.

The ambivalence toward modernity that torments Muslims is unlikely to abate. The temptations of the West have alienated a younger generation from its elders. Men and women insist that they revere the faith as they seek to break out of its restrictions. Freedom of speech, granting license and protection to the irreverent, is cherished, protected and canonical in the Western tradition. Now Muslims who quarrel with offensive art are using their newfound freedoms to lash out against it.

These cultural contradictions do not lend themselves to the touch of outsiders. President George W. Bush believed that America’s proximity to Arab dictatorships had begotten us the jihadists’ enmity. His military campaign in Iraq became an attempt to reform that country and beyond. But Arabs rejected his interventionism and dismissed his “freedom agenda” as a cover for an unpopular war and for domination.

President Obama has taken a different approach. He was sure that his biography — the years he spent in Indonesia and his sympathy for the aspirations of Muslim lands — would help repair relations between America and the Islamic world. But he’s been caught in the middle, conciliating the rulers while making grand promises to ordinary people. The revolt of the Iranian opposition in the summer of 2009 exposed the flaws of his approach. Then the Arab Spring played havoc with American policy. Since then, the Obama administration has not been able to decide whether it defends the status quo or the young people hell-bent on toppling the old order.

Cultural freedom is never absolute, of course, and the Western tradition itself, from the Athenians to the present, struggles mightily with the line between freedom and order. In the Muslim world, that struggle is more fierce and lasting, and it will show itself in far more than burnt flags and overrun embassies.

Fouad Ajami, a senior fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, is the author of “The Syrian Rebellion” and “Dream Palace of the Arabs: A Generation’s Odyssey.”

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  1. How do we know this last problem was not caused by a planted terrorist?  If I wanted to cause probblems in a country that is what I would do.  The video has done just as much as 9/11 in my opinion.  I know people will disagree with me but they still have that right in the US.

  2. “Why is the Arab world so easily offended?”

    The Arab does not want to become the United States.

    In the Arab world, an Abha court sentenced the leader of a  gang to death by public displaying of the beheading and six other gang members to beheading for their role in jewelry store robberies in Asir 
    In the United States criminals are often given suspended sentences or a handful of days in jail.

    In the Arab world, kill someone with your vehicle,judgment will be sentenced to death.
    In the United States, especially in Maine, kill someone with your vehicle,a judge will let you walk free.

    1. “In the Arab world, kill someone with your vehicle,judgment will be sentenced to death.
      In the United States, especially in Maine, kill someone with your vehicle,a judge will let you walk free.”

      it’s called being reasonable, and not following a hugely outdated line of reasoning from a backwards dark ages culture.

      1. Please do not use the race “Arab” interchangeably with the religion “Muslim.” Indonesians, Persians, and Turks are not “Arab”  but many of them ARE Muslim. Arabs and Jews are children of Abraham, Semites.  Many other Muslims are of different ethnicity.

        … and you need a “history book” there was law in Arabia, Egypt and Persia while Caucasians were still huddled in caves and eating raw meat.

      1.  Wrong; only a fool would believe that ANY humans were superior to the lowest rodent.  The only positive contribution we make outside the human race is to die and fertilize the ground.  Our species behaves EXACTLY like germs.

    1. They spend a great deal of time every day, praying to God.  The same God worshiped by Christians.  They don’t tolerate adultery, they have standards of dress, clenliness, and civility.  Why do you think they act like animals?  Did you ever look at the number of sex offenders in your neighborhood? They know how to deal with that problem. What do you think they think of us?

        1. And we were stokin’ the fires and oilin’ up the machinery
          Until the Gods found out we had ideas of our own
          And war was coming and the Earth was shaking and there was no more ruin in the Garden of Allah

        2. Sorry…Same God.  i think half of the world’s problems would be over if everyone could call God by the same name!

          1.  And the rest of the world’s problems would be over if we threw religion in the trash where it belongs.Imagine what could happen if we funded science properly and let FACTS do their job!

        3. Both christians and muslim’s pray to the god of Abraham. You know that and are being willfully ignorant to serve your own ends.

        1.  I’m not sure what you are saying here.  “Allah” is arabic for… God.  Arabic christians use the same word.

        2. Same God..different name.  In fact, Jesus Christ is a prophet of Islam. along with Solomon, John the Babtist, Moses, and several more.

    2.  Humans ARE animals.  …and what about the way the nice Christian folks acted in Iraq?  Rubbing $h!t on prisoners just like a bunch of monkeys?

  3. I have heard that the Muslim community were always a passive bunch.. I have not ever seen that.. I have seen through news publications and even at the movies that these Muslims beat their women, they believe in capitol punishment for the teeniest of crimes,, beheading s because you were  maybe believing in Christianity instead of Islam..  Bombings amongst themselves, terrorist plots here in the U.S as well as in their own back yards, The belief that if you strap a bomb to your torso and it goes off and you kill not only yourself but a few Americans in the name of Islam you will be rewarded with all these virgins in heaven.. I mean give me a break i have never heard of a more violent and backwards group of people..  Its no wonder that they have been fighting with the western world since the beginning of time.. Heck they fight amongst themselves for no reason.. I’m not really buying this story..

    1. They are passive. There are billions of Muslims that are not doing anything. They are just as mad as we are that there are people out there that are giving the rest a bad name. 

      1. Are they just as mad as we are? If so, why are they not rising up in peaceful protest, against the atrocities of a very small minority? Are they in fear of reprisal, or are they internally conflicted enough to allow the radicals to do their dirty work?

        Do you have a theory which would defend their deafening silence?

        1. But they are protesting the the violence. They are sad that this is happening to their religion. They just do not make the nightly news because peace doesn’t sale. 

    2. we can’t judge all people by what we see in the news.  according to your view, an Arab looking at the US would think all Americans are:

      1. Kim Kardashian
      2. Extremely wealthy
      3.  Work on Wall Street
      4. Burn the Koran on a daily basis
      5.  Live in Texas

      Please look up the word ‘ethnocentric’ to get an objective view of your own analysis.

          1. my house is a possession that i pay for. I own it. It is mine.

            the koran is a book, a work of fiction that can be bought, so that you own it, and you can burn it if you want to.

      1. ?whats ethnic about americans?
        ?is it not true that even my ilks ancestors who became americans
        have been influenced by those who’ve descended from the age of reason?

      1. If that is true, look at it from their point.  Christians, ( USA)  just got killed over 100,000 Moslims in Iraq.  We invaded their country and killed their children, wives, and parents.  nothing peacful there, but all the teachings of Jesus are pacifistic.

        1. no.. all the teachings are not pacifistic…. a jew was killed by God.. because he collected fire wood on the sabbath… there is violence in all religions… the Christain Bible teaches us not to be violent.. to not fight back if persecuted.. to turn the other cheek.. Islam teached to kill the non believer if they don’t convert.. to conduct Jihas on the infidel.. to lie to all if it will advance the cause of Islam.. … yes we did invade..but it wasn’t necessarily Christians who did this .. it was a military operation by a Gov’t enity.. not the same thing.. what we are seeing is in the name of Alah , for Islam for Muhammad.. not military and not gov’t but religious revenge against non believers and Jihad against all who don’t convert.. not the same thing..

      2. The US spends more than a decade screaming “We’re at war!,” justifying endless violence, then bats its eyes: “why are they so angry at us?”

    3. Passive people don’t make headlines.
      People who go to work and pay taxes get short shrift from the media but make up some issues and go camping in a public park with a few of your friends…. major headlines.

          1. It was a fair comment. As valid now as then and will still be valid in the future. People who go through their lives in a routine way do not make headlines. People who protest loudly do. Passive Muslims who go through their lives in a routine way do not make headlines. Bomb throwers do. Not all Americans are OWS campers. Not all Muslims are bomb throwers.    The poster seemed to put all Muslims into the same category. Lazy generalizations… I don’t think so.

          2. I mean, whatever, if you say so. I know it’s much easier for you to just dismiss them as campers who want to have a camping party while they don’t pay taxes (lol, like that makes sense) and I know it’s easier for you to create this weird narrative where suddenly the only reports going on regard OWS and protests in the middle east (lol, like that makes sense), so, it’s fine. But you have to realize, your complaints aren’t consistent and they’re not compatible either. You want to complain that OWS is just a group of do nothing slackers, but then you also want to compare them to violent “bomb throwers” — you realize that doesn’t add up, right? 

          3. You realize that isn’t what I said Right?    And no I’m, not going to explain it to you… Obvious BS.

          4. LOL, no, I’m not going to ask you to explain so you can just step back from what you clearly said. You made lazy generalizations about OWS and then in such a weak manner tried to tie and compare them to the extremists in the middle east. It’s there and it’s in black and white. You said they’re attention getting and then somehow tried imply they’re the only ones getting headlines. Just weird and nonsensical complaints that aren’t based in reality. 

            Just tell us how you really feel and quit trying to dress it up as something else. 

    1. There was plenty of Muslim extremism and violence BEFORE the creation of Israel. Find another way to try and excuse this barbarism.

      1.  Actually real history is a bit different than your view.  Sure there were always Muslin extremists but before the world powers jammed Israel onto land owned by Arabs, they were in the minority.  Jews and Arabs lived together, and if not in perfect harmony at least without the big brew-ha-has that we have today. 

        Cooler heads suggested other locations for the “new Israel” but England had stolen Palestine fair and square so it got to “give” the new Israel papers for this piece of real estate.

        In fact both the Jews and Arabs are “Semites” both tribes were off-spring of Abraham.  It is a family battle, and non-family members would have been far better off had they stayed out of this disagreement.

        An aside;  Unrest in the middle East helps move the price of oil higher (in case you had not noticed)  so there may be more to this “dust up’ than the You tube flick.

          1.   Read:

            “sure there were Muslim extremists but before the world
            powers jammed Israel into land peopled by Arabs they were the
            minority.” 

        1.  You are so wrong…. Kouch mentions the Wahabis..

          Here is a bit of history.

          http://www.amazon.com/The-Kingdom-Arabia-House-Saud/dp/0151472602/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_2

          The first chapters deal with The House of Saud and its marriage to the Wahabi Sect which dominates Sunni thought as they control the most Holy Places.

          Name: Wahhabism, Wahhabi Islam
          Founder: Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab

          Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (d. 1792) was the first modern Islamic
          fundamentalist and extremists. Wahhab made the central point of his
          reform movement the principle that absolutely every idea added to Islam
          after the third century of the Mulsim era (about 950 CE) was false and
          should be eliminated. Muslims, in order to be true Muslims, must adhere
          solely and strictly to the original beliefs set forth by Muhammad.

          The reason for this extremist stance, and the focus of Wahhab’s
          reform efforts, was a number of popular practices which he believed
          represented a regression to pre-Islamic polytheism. These included
          praying to saints, making pilgrimages to tombs and special mosques,
          venerating trees, caves, and stones, and using votive and sacrificial
          offerings.

          These are all practices commonly and traditionally associated
          with religions, but they were unacceptable to Wahhab. Contemporary
          secular behaviors are even more anathema to Wahhab’s successors. It is
          against modernity, secularism, and the Enlightenment which current
          Wahhabists do battle — and it is this anti-secularism, anti-modernism
          which helps drive their extremism, even to the point of violence.

          1.  Read:

            “sure there were Muslim extremists but before the world powers jammed Israel into land peopled by Arabs they were the minority.” 

        2. In addition Shite-Sunni conflict goes backs hundreds of years. Throw in the minor sects and offshoots and it is non-stop.

  4. This can’t be happening.  President Obama was going to teach the world to live in perfect harmony.  He probably just needs to go give them a hug.

  5. The Arab world shares a lot in common with the American Liberal world. However, the Arabs are more sincere in their outrage. They don’t choose when to feign their outrage or save it for only one political party or religion.

    1.  If you want feigned outrage listen to morons like Palin yowling about how her freedom is compromised over (fill in the blank)school prayer or some such nonsense.There is no bigger bunch of lying crybabies than this gang of thugs.

    2. Uh … no. Not even close.

      The Arab world is wildly ANTI-liberal. They’re conservative, they passionately embrace religious fundamentalism, and they’re jingoistic, chauvinistic, misogynistic, homophobic, hateful and violent.

      The Arab world shares a lot in common with the American conservative world. 

  6. The Islamist extremists will use any excuse for riot and mayhem as they seek to cow any opposition. It apparently is a successful tactic, when time and again we have many libs meekly allowing them this “Heckler’s Veto” power by condemning FIRST a controversial movie, book, cartoon etc BEFORE condemning the actual violence perpetrated.

    1. A cheap film about Muslim prophet…no one killed by the film. No mosques destroyed or holy Muslim books burned. Yet Muslims riot and kill in the streets all over the world.

      Well let me ask…Where is the outrage and riots over the slaughter of Muslims, the destruction of hundreds of Muslim Mosques of every sect, the buring of thousands of Muslim holy books….all in Syria by Bashar Assad the ruler of Syria. TELL ME…where are the Muslim nations? Where…are the Muslim’s who are outraged?

      Bashar Assad has mass murdered over 39,000 Syrian Muslims !! Butchered unarmed Muslim civilians…men, women, children and babies.
      Assad has arrested or disappeared over 235,000 other Muslim Syrian people. He has slit their throats after capture, burned them alive in their homes, burried them in mass graves hundreds at a time.

      Where is this so called Muslim outrage ???

      None….nothing anywhere !! Not one protest against Assad’s attackes on Muslims and Muslim mosques !!

      Yet…today…and I mean right now !!! Assad is shelling with artillery, and bombing with planes Muslim cities, villages and towns…just as he has for 19 months. Not one Muslim on TV, or in the streets to protest this slaughter!

      Yet here we have Muslims all across the world as “Movie Critics” burning and killing over the insult ???

      What about the actual act, the actual destruction of Muslim People and their Holy places of worship? How can Muslim’s let Bashar Assad act..and not protest such atrocities against Muslims?

      If there is this little outrage over Syria’s Muslims being slaughtered …then all this rioting and outrage over an unpublished movie nad it’s trailer is just a bunch of Muslim #$%$ Useless waste of lives and energy.

      If Muslims don’t care about what is going on in Syria …..Muslim’s just don’t care…AT ALL.

      1. An astute argument that should be more widely considered. But then, Muslim apologists don’t want to be bothered with logic or truth, just the conviction that they are helping us understand these misunderstood, oppressed people. If Muslims believed in any concept of justice, they would help their spiritual brethren being decimated by Assad. Their arguments about the past week’s violence simply being spontaneous is specious at best and demonstrates the true Muslim behavior, at worst.

    2.  You mean like Mitt opened his trap BEFORE the situation at the embassy happened?If anyone thought he was ready to be President,that should’ve stopped that idea cold.

  7. Because they know in their own brains that they have no evidence or rational thinking to back up their spurious claims, and they don’t like other people not thinking how they think, so they get upset and lash out like babies.

  8. It is hard for me to believe that an ethnic group, that gets worked up to the point of brutally killing people they don’t even know………….over a Youtube video…………isn’t still living in the 14th century in my opinion.

    You could write a book, like this analysis, trying to explain their “pride” and so on, but you can’t change people who are ignorant of how to live in civilized society, and don’t wish to be any different.

    The A**-kisser-in-chief even went over there and apologized for America, like a fool, and see what it bought us. Radical Islam sees what Obama did as…….weakness!   The only thing the radicals understand, and respect, is a man with a bigger stick, or rock or club!

    1. “It is hard for me to believe that an ethnic group, that gets worked up to the point of brutally killing people they don’t even know”.
      Care to guess how many settlers were killed moving through Utah in the 1800s by religiuos extremists (Mormons)?  Hint; they killed more than the indians. How about the number of Buddhists killed in Tibet by our close friends and business partners, the Communist Chinese.

  9. An illuminating piece, but I wonder if this perpetual victim status is just the nature of religion in general. Here for example, some sects of the country believe that Christianity is under attack. Despite facts to the contrary, they claim this is a Christian nation and that somehow if they’re wished “happy holidays” it’s signal that their greeter is trying to attack their faith. Of course that is to a much lesser degree, but it seems similar in the sense these people aren’t seeing reality, they’re seeing a distortion because of their status as a religious person. 

    1. You trying to equate “Happy Holidays” with the killing of an American ambassador is truly stunning and irresponsible.

      1. “Of course that is to a much lesser degree, but it seems similar in the sense these people aren’t seeing reality, they’re seeing a distortion because of their status as a religious person. ”

        Try reading the comment before launching your ridiculous accusations.

  10. I am sorry, Mr. Obama.  Muslims will kill until every grain of sand and wave in the ocean exists under the sword of Sharia Law.  It has been like this since the Prophet Mohammed, and will continue on as long as Islam is allowed to exist.  Warring factions, merciless warlords… it’s all about greed… in the very worst way.  Being an Orthodox Christian myself and seeing the sword fall on the Copts and Christians of all denominations that have the faith to weather such adverstity has taught me a lot about the strength that I need in my own life.

    Their attack had nothing to do with the movie that was being created, although, they are using that excuse to rally support from other factions of Islam.  They saw a weakness in our complacency, and they took it.  We must keep up our guard at all times.

    Obama blaming Christians for this issue shows just how much that he is attempting to pander to any demographic group possible for a reelection vote.  Quite frankly, it’s pathetic.  Pathetic.  He is now directly attacking Christianity, claiming that it is “dangerous” and that Muslims will kill everyone just to get to the Christians.

    Don’t let the current Administration pull the wool over your eyes.  They are destroying our country to ensure themselves a place forevermore in the wealthy living associated with politics. 

    1.  Please point us to a quote where Obama blames Christians for the protests, or where he attacks Christianity.

        1. Why would you say that?  Was George Dubya  Bush a Christian?  If yes, I don’t think I would want to be at that picnic either.

        2. Do you credit spam email over every FACT ever presented about Obama’s religion?  He is a Christian, not that it should matter to us, but I feel you would say anything to support your misguided principles.

  11.  Most of these protesters are illiterate and they get all their news from a hand full of corrupt religious leaders. 

        1.  I wish it weren’t true either here or there but it is.Religion is the source of nearly every problem we have in some way or another.

          1. Christianity is the antithesis of liberty. 

            1 Peter 2:13:  “For the Lord’s sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right.”
            Paul wrote in Romans 13:1:  “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God.  Therefore whoever resist authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.”

  12. i cant really blame them. they see the americans who they really are. they are poor unhappy . tyou would find poor americans would show similar views  the rich they get everything . look what the rich are doing to the poor americans. look at lepage. i cant blame them for being angry. i am angry i live in this country. what the rich do to the poor 

      1. are you saying there are no classes in this country? class warfare has been going on forever and it will never stop nor should it ever stop

    1. we’re not.
      we tolerate the burning of our flag, the hate speech about our country, and the religions that support them. we have this thing called free speech and freedom of religion that makes this possible and necessary. 

  13. To the people judging all Muslims based on these actions, then can I judge all Christians based on Anders Breivik?  Or how about the KKK, they claim to be a Christian organization.  Would that be fair?

        1. The sheer scale of violence and the beliefs of radical Islam.  I don’t think Anders Breivik and the KKK are motivated by Christian beliefs, but I’ll admit that’s just my opinion.  If you want to judge Christians on the basis of Breivik and the KKK, go ahead.  I won’t.

          1. You missed my point.  I don’t actually judge all of Christianity based on the actions of those people just like I don’t judge all of Islam based on the actions of the extremists.  It just so happens that when a Christian commits an act of violence, people are quick to say that the one person does not represent ALL of Christianity, but when a Muslim commits an act of violence, people take that as a sign that ALL Muslims are violent.  If you condemn ALL of Islam for the actions of a few, then you must condemn ALL of Christianity for the actions of a few.  To do otherwise is hypocritical.

          2. Deuteronomy 13:6-9

            If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or
            thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own
            soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which
            thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

             Namely, of the gods of the people
            which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the
            earth;

             Thou shalt not consent unto him,
            nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou
            spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

             But thou shalt surely kill him;
            thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand
            of all the people.

          3.  Dude, don’t engage in meaningful religious debate with someone who goes by the handle ‘AncientLegacy’ :-)

          4. What can I say, my favorite sport is logic gymnastics.  I love to see all the twists and turns and breaks in reasoning for people to justify their religious text for saying horrible things while at the same time condemning another religious text for saying horrible things.

          5. Matthew 5:18-19
            “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” 
            Jesus says you have to follow the Old Testament until heaven and earth pass away.

            Also,
            Matthew 10:34
            “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. ”

        1. I don’t want to be more specific, I don’t care if you “beg to differ”, and I’m too tired to argue today. 

          If you want to compare Christians to radical Muslims, go ahead.

    1. not really a comparison there.

      breivik, and the kkk are very very small minorities when compared to the number of “radical Islamists” (which is pretty much all of them)

      1. And how do you know that “pretty much all” Muslims are “radical Islamists”?  What study or survey are you using as a source?  Unless of course you are just making things up…

          1. A logical fallacy.  The name comes from a specific example.  Person A says that all Scotsmen like haggis.  Person B says that his Uncle is Scottish and does not like haggis.  Person A says that Person B’s Uncle is No True Scotsman.  In this case, AncientLegacy is implying that the examples provided cannot be representative of all Christians because they are not the majority, while trying to represent all of Islam based on the actions of a minority.  It’s not so much of a No True Scotsman and more of AncientLegacy being hypocritical.

  14. The islamists refuse to take ANY responsibility for their actions or their lives and focus instead on claiming that the infidels are responsible for their plight. Hence their mantra that all infidels, as in all of us, Christians, Jews & non believers, WILL convert to islam or be killed.
    Unfortunately, many folks here in the US are either unwilling or unable to accept that. Foolishly, many among us still believe that islam is a religion of peace, which of course it is not.
    Too many times, there have been and still are those among us who say the Quran preaches peace, when the very islamists who call it their “holy book” state emphatically that their “holy quran” instructs them to convert or kill ALL infidels, which in fact it does.
    Unless and until we as individuals, and our government accept these facts, and prepare ourselves accordingly, nothing will change.
    For the administration, through the state department, ambassador to the UN, or the mouthpiece of the office of POTUS, to continue to spew the LIES, that the unrest in the islamic world and the attacks against United States sovereign properties in the arab world, is the result of a movie, is idiotic, lame, and re-election motivated and nothing more. Even when the Libyan president and others state facts to the contrary, Ozero, Clinton, Carney and the rest refuse to admit the truth.
    The islamists percieve an apoligetic, groveling and apathetic America as weak. That needs to change, hopefully on 6 November.

      1. The list is long.
        No apologies under ANY circumstances.
        Marine detachments in all our embassies and consulates…with rules of engagement to fire on anyone that breaches the inner walls…..start stacking up bodies is a good start.
        They kill one of us, we kill one hundred of them.
        Carpet bomb the mountains where the haji’s hide, 24/7.
        No negotiations with Taliban or al queda, give up or surrender…..comply or die.
        That should do for starters.

          1. I would be happy to go, in the left seat of a B-2. Sadly, I am too old now, and so is my son.
            Having served in one war, it would be an honor and privilege to serve again.

  15. The “religion of peace”

    they killed a danish cartoonist for depicting a picture of their prophet.
    they threatened to kill the creators of south park because of their episode including mohammed.
    they kill or imprison anyone in their homelands that isn’t islamic or who speaks out about islam.
    they kill their own family if they become too “westernized”
    They even kill their own family members that have been raped.
    they’re brutal to women, 

    and you ask “why are they so easily offended”

    wake up.

    1. So…..just like any and all the other religions which have killed or oppressed peoples not of the same faith all throughout human history…..what did anyone REALLY think the Muslim religion would be ANY different???

      1. “throughout human history”

        it’s in the past, it’s history. 
        however, the abhorrent actions mentioned above perpetrated by Muslims still exist prominently up to today.

        1. Are you REALLY excusing all the historic abhorrent behaviors that have taken place in this world and were based on various religions simply due to the fact ‘it’s in the past’…newsflash- ‘those who forget the past (i.e. history) are condemned to relive it.’

          Your moniker is ‘AncientLegacy’ – guess your idea of ‘ancient’ is within the last three weeks…and that’s not much of any kind of ‘legacy.’  Try again.

  16. While I agree with the author’s comments, I also believe a root cause of the violence is endemic poverty and unemployment and lack of individual freedoms in Arab countries.  They use the video as an excuse to express frustration with their own situations, and by attacking US facilities and not their own government building or looting stores, they avoid regime reprisals. 

    1.  I’m with you on some of that. This is a particularly volatile time because food prices have risen dramatically in the year before the “Arab Spring”. Missed by the media somehow….or ignored as a cause. 

      I am not sure that the Arab “man on the street” is so concerned about individual freedoms. Generally they have never had them. How can you pine for something that you have never had?  I expect you are closer to the truth with poverty and unemployment and the authors point about cultural pride.

      It’s tough when you go to school and learn about your rich history then join the real world of no job and a bleak future. The first Imam that comes along and promises a brighter future is going to be who you attach yourself to.

  17. I’m not buying for a minute that “the origins of the video remain murky”SOME big name has to be associated with it that has a lot to lose by being publicized.Conservative Christians and Netanyahu are the problem in the past,now and always.

    1.  I caught one report that the man behind the video is an Egyptian Ex-pat of the Coptic Christian faith. I don’t know for sure because I never heard it from that source again nor any other.

  18. Ok, it is a fairly well-known fact by now that films, cartoons, books of theses sorts will get a reaction.  Whether YOU agree with the film, book, cartoon, etc. does not matter, unless you are Muslim.

    So to most readers here: a question to think about–who profits from this mess?  (No prophets…)

    Egyptian Christians? Hardly, they are likely to suffer, be kicked out, at worst murdered.  They have not done well there in the last number of years, even before the downfall of Mubarak.

    I have read–and of course, have no way to confirm–that this video has many signs of the work of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency.  The CIA calls this kind of stuff  “psy-ops,”  as in psychological operations.  (It was done to us in the US most notably and recently with the run-up to Iraqi war: “BEWARE: Saddam has—WMDs, uranium, chemical warfare, etc. etc. ”   None of that was found, but by then we had invaded, hundreds of thousands dead and injured, Americans, British, and esp. the Iraqis.

    The reaction to this film is guaranteed, given the climate in many Middle East countries.  Arabic and Islamic nations suffer the results of the rioting.  Some Americans are harmed and some killed. (Beware the weapons “liberated” from armies in civil wars, such as Lybia’s.  What average man-in-the-street has access to rocket grenades?)   The relationships of the US and these countries are now compromised.   

    Most importantly, what is the effect this may have on the US elections?   Pushes the sitting president into either a defensive position, which will seem weak, or an imprudent offensive one, which can be seen as overreaction.  The opponent can use it either way–Damned if he does, Damned if he doesn’t.  (I support neither major candidate, BTW.)

    The US has interfered in the elections of other countries for over a century.  (Dominican Republic, Iran, Nicaragua, Chile, Grenada, Jamaica, Viet Nam, Philippines, Pakistan, the list is long…)  

    Now it is being done to us.  

    Payback, how does that feel?

      1. Right, almost forgot about the oil…

        So the list of “who profits” is like this so far:

        OPEC countries–oil becomes more expensive, increased profits

        Oil Companies–see above…

        Israelis–justifies their claim that the “extremists” (their definition) must be “neutralized”

        Halliburton, Lockheed, Boeing, Westinghouse, etc, etc.–greater profits supplying militaries

        Militaries–“their’s,” “our’s,” “the other guy’s (insert terrorist group of the month here)” –they all benefit, job justification

        You, me, the average Arab, Egyptian, Syrian, Lybian, etc.–we all lose, surprise!

  19. well i see the liberals on here are defending the muslims.Why are liberals so against the U.S? It is strange Dems support gay marriage and there policies are pushing the U.S closer to muslim control.

    1. Do you REALLY think that ALL Muslims are violent and hate the U.S. ?  Just like the nimrods who made the stupid anti Mohammad film are representative of all the rest of us in the U.S…..I don’t hate Muslims- I don’t know anyone who is Muslim and I refuse to lump all people who are a specific religion as bad.  If that were the case- there are plenty of U.S. people who claim to be ‘good christians’ who could be easily lumped into a negative category.

  20. Because it’s a tribal thing. The theocracy part is played thru the tribal elder or a charasmatic second. Which I have no problem with.

    The maddening part is the US belief that democracy is what these people want and need. It just will not work. And more coffins are lowered into the ground every day to prove it.

  21. Ajami has his finger on the pulse of the M E.

    They are backwards, ill-educated, misogynist, resentful, envious fanatics. What else is there to say?

  22.  Not to mention how he makes the connection between Muslims and gay marriage???There’s no line I can draw to those two points.

  23.  And Wahhabism is practiced most widely in -Saudi Arabia!One of the most repressive regimes in the world who are closely connected to Bush for decades.Not a surprise.Woman haters club with the world’s best tree house.

  24.  Look at the ultra orthodox Israelis who don’t have to work but get to “study the Bible”all day and breed like rabbits.They are taking over Jerusalem and eventually all of Israel,while harming secular Israelis.How do you think that crowd feels about the Palestinians or any Arabs?

  25. Yes, Islam is associated with violence, terror, crime and jihad which means trained young orphans and used them as human bombs. I myself, was born a Muslim and since I was a girl I was treated like a goat in my house. My father wanted me marry a man I never new and this was done because he was a Muslim and offered my father a sum of monies.

    Today, I am free away from this hateful cult of Islam. I only believe in myself. I am in a free country where I am respected. I have my own dignity which Islam stole from me since when I was born a girl.
    It is the time one ends this terror of Islam. All these people who go out to protect Islam. Is because they are sick.

    Listiani Lestari tel:+31 (172) 652-509  or +31 (6) 51-56-9738

  26. There is an EXCELLENT  commentary regarding this subject by Gwynne Dyer  on today’s (09/18/12) Op-Ed page.

    “All politics is local” Tip O’Neil

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