BANGOR, Maine — Members of Bangor’s Jewish community reacted Sunday with sadness and outrage over the spray painted vandalism of two synagogues, calling it a hate crime but stressing it is an isolated occurrence in the city’s history.

“The only thing I can say is I know there’s been a rash of graffiti in the city. Graffiti is one thing, but when it starts becoming swastikas on synagogues, it’s no longer just graffiti. It’s a hate crime,” said Norman Minsky, a Bangor attorney.

The graffiti, which was applied Friday night, included swastikas — a Nazi and anti-Semitic symbol — and an upside-down cross with the numbers “6 6 6” positioned at the top and sides.

“It’s a horrible thing to see, of course,” said Bill Small, former Beth Israel president. “I was a professor of German literature and language and I can’t stand to see the swastika, especially plastered on a synagogue.

“Whether it was a serious, anti-Semitic attack or not, I don’t know.”

Neither police nor Jewish leaders could be sure what the motivation of the vandal or vandals was.

“My reaction is that whether or not the perpetrator or perpetrators had ideological motivation, the act itself is a hate crime by virtue of the content of the vandalism,” said Rabbi Justin Goldstein of Beth Israel Synagogue. “And that it not only reflects on the growing problem of vandalism throughout the city, but it also reminds us all of the resolve and effort needed to combat hate and ignorance.”

Maine has seven hate crime-related statutes in place, one of which ( A.M.R.S. 507) covers desecration and defacement of places of worship and makes such an act a Class D crime.

Bangor police Sgt. Paul Edwards said how this crime is treated depends on how the case develops.

“If we caught someone that we could pin that on, the attorney general would look at it to determine if it’s a hate crime,” Edwards said. “I would say it qualifies only because of the concern and fear it’s generated in the Jewish community.”
Minsky was one of the people in attendance for services at Beth Israel when the initial vandalism occurred at both Beth Israel and Beth Abraham synagogues on York Street around 7 p.m. Friday.

“Apparently they came back again a couple hours later,” said Minsky, who said he arrived around 6 p.m. and noticed smaller graffiti on the wall of the front stairway, but not the swastikas or upside-down cross. “The original stuff I saw on Beth Israel were small and on the stairs out front. The other stuff was added later.”

A vandal or vandals spray painted offensive graffiti on the front staircases, pillars and signs of the two synagogues.

“We went to service at Beth Israel from 5:30 to 6:30 and saw nothing,” said Small. “The custodian was there and left for 20 minutes around 7, and when he came back, he saw it. He called me right away.”

He also called the police.

Bangor police Sgt. James Buckley said a call came around 7:30 p.m. Friday to report finding the vandalism.

“Everybody was shocked and some people immediately said it fits into what’s going on in the Mideast, but I’m not sure I would go that far,” said Small.

Minsky’s family includes relatives on his father’s side in Europe whose lives were affected by the Nazis during World War II.

“It’s been quite awhile since something like this has happened in Bangor,” Minsky said. “It’s been a problem nationally for a number of years, but it’s a minor problem compared to what’s happening in Europe right now.”

Bangor police officers said graffiti and incidents of vandalism have been on the rise over the last week or so.

“I believe it has,” Buckley said. “We’ve had a lot of tagging the last few weeks.

“Over the last few days, we had a graffiti complaint at 615 Broadway on September 20 and and on Boyd Street at the Strickland House the very next day.”

Sgt. Edwards said a lot of these graffiti/vandalism incidents appear to be concentrated on Bangor’s east side.

“We’ve had five other random acts like this on ballfields and businesses. We’ve had so much, I think a lot of them are related, and it seems like it’s the same guy or group of people,” Edwards said. “This is so hard for us to catch someone in the act of doing. Somebody knows who is doing this, and we are waiting for a tip to come through to give us a break on this.”

The Bangor City Council recently has held discussions on graffiti and ways to limit instances and penalize offenders, also known as “taggers.”

“I think it’s disgusting,” said Bangor City Councilor Charlie Longo, who lives nearby the synagogues at The Terraces apartment complex. “I think it’s despicable that people spend their time this way. We need to hold these people accountable for this kind of vandalism.”

“We’re looking at revisiting the topic in a couple months,” he added. “City Solicitor Norm Heitmann is working on some ordinance language to penalize offenders, and we’re also looking at other ways to prohibit or punish this kind of stuff without ordinances.”

Most of the graffiti had been either washed off or painted over at both synagogues by Sunday, although Rabbi Goldstein said Beth Israel’s glass-encased sign had not been cleaned up yet.

Rabbi Goldstein said it’s important to keep things in historical perspective.

“We’re celebrating 100 years in this building this year. From people I’ve spoken to, this is the only incident like this here in recent memory,” Goldstein said. “This does not reflect the feeling of the Bangor community and is an isolated incident historically.

“We should remember that one of the things that makes this such a nice city to live in is that people work together here to make it the best it can be.”

The Anti-Defamation League released a statement Sunday night condemning the anti-Semitic vandalism.

“ADL condemns this use of swastikas and other graffiti at synagogues. That this happened during the Jewish High Holy Days is a sad reminder that anti-Semitism is alive, and deeply offends all people who value communities of respect,” Derrek L. Shulman, Regional Director of ADL New England, said. “We commend the Bangor Police Department for prioritizing its investigation into this crime.”

Anyone with information about the vandalism is asked to contact the Bangor Police Department at 947-7384.

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  1. To whomever did this…Our USA was founded on the thought and idea of no prosecution of faith. You obviously believe in the crooked-cross so I know you have faith in something. Let people have what they want and not be worried. They aren’t harming anyone…But you are! 

     So we can narrow down who the losers are….They weren’t good in Art class…that’s for sure!

  2. My daughter not long ago attended a bat mitzvah there and I’m sure her friends family will be in utter disgust over this. These dumb “canot type the rest” that commited this crime should be charged with a hate crime if caught.

    Edit: My daughters friend posted a message on facebook about the incident and she was not happy. Here is just a tad of what she said.

    How would u like it if we went to your house and sraypainted a big star of david on your front door?!? huh?!? But there’s the difference between us and you; there is no way that any of us would do that! because WE know how cruel and hurtful it is.

    1. I wouldn’t be offended. The star of David isn’t associated with death and destruction the way the swastika is. I’m really sorry for the pain these creeps caused your daughter’s friend and the rest of her synagogue.

  3. This is just mean and rotten.  Their is no honor in defacing people’s house of worship even if you do not believe in their religion.  No respect for others is shown here.

    1. How true.  I would also extend that to any hate groups that attack our embassy’s and kill our people in the name of their “peaceful” religion.

      1. Yes they were very wrong and must be severely punished, but don’t start up the thinly-veiled  anti-Muslim stuff.  It is overwhelmingly a peaceful religion with a billion members worldwide.  Most Libyans condemned what they did.  So please, don’t paint with broad ignorant brushes. 

        1. “A broad ignorant brush”?  I would argue that this pre-planned terrorist attack was perpetrated by Muslim extremist’s.  This faction of Muslims continue to grow in size and scope and even worse, are continually enabled by our own government with their deflections of blame (a You-tube video) and their continual apologizing for holding American values.  Get real.  It is factual that all througout the middle-east there are anti-American protests complete with deplorable violence and US flag-burning. I don’t see enough anti-extremist protests from the “peaceful” Muslims to make me think anything other than a blind-eye is being turned.  I am an American and I resent and despise this type of behaviour.   So say what you will, but I call it like it is.  

      2. I do not think we will win the respect of the middle east . look at the civilian  death toll in are war with Iraq.  Now if your family got killed by people claiming to help you would you ever respect them ? If it was me Osama would have looked like a girl scout.  Just saying we only want to see one side to the story. People are not evil . Some are mislead by thier governments . They did not just pick us a random  to attach . Not saying it was right or defending them . Just saying we need to be able to see both sides . We have holidays to celebrate people who did evil things. Look what Columbus did to natives . Schools indoctrinate people not to think or teach the truth.  Most the world like american people but not a fan of are politics. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and other games we have played dose not help. If I remember right were allies with Iran, Iraq,Afganistan  and many others before we took a different side.  Why should anyone In the middle east trust us ? Maybe out of fear?

  4.  What?!?  I’m pretty sure the political arena has nothing to do with this.  In fact, since many conservatives are quite religious and believe in religious freedom, your argument does not hold water. 

    This act is despicable, no matter who did it.  And no matter what “tone” there is out there, people are still responsible for their own choices.  I hope they find out who has been doing these things, and I hope that there is appropriate action taken. 

    1.  I doubt that this is political but lets be realistic here. Conservatives may be quite religious but they do not believe in religious freedom. 

      1. Your comment has no merit…its sad to read such ignorant tripe. BTW they are running a Mormon for president.

        1. Mormon’s are known for posthumously baptizing people as Mormons who were not Mormons while living. Quite offensive imho. 
          Back to the topic at hand though – I don’t think this was politically motivated. I’m betting it’s a couple of punks who feel they have nothing better to do than spread hate and discontent.

          1. Ben, even if there is supposed to be freedom of religion in American, is there some advantage to claiming to be “christian” ?  
            Wonder why there might be.

            Anyone have any thoughts on that relative to this article or any broader political issues of individual liberty, that we might be dealing with in Maine ?

          2. Criticizes others for not supporting religious freedon, then attacks the mormon church, you are a walking hypocrisy.

          3. I thought we were talking about religous freedeom? You think all catholics and baptist etc. are all the same? Talk about ignorance?

        2. “BTW they are running a Mormon for president.”

          Anything to deflect attention from the obvious fact that many conservatives accept viscous ad hominem attacks  on all that can be seen as being “too liberal” or not ‘real’ American enough.

          lol’

          1. If you knew anything about what you were talking about, you would’nt make a statement like that. Do you have any idea the relationship between  Gentiles and Jews? When was the last time you heard of a hate crime being committed between the two denominations? Hitler doesn’t count, he only used the church for political stabilization.

          2. “Do you have any idea the relationship between  Gentiles and Jews?”

            Ah-yup.
            But my point is about how the so called “conservative political “chritians” of today play both sides and pretend that doing does not support extremism.

            But I’ve become VERY INTERESTED in what else  someone who excuses Hitler: 
            “Hitler doesn’t count, he only used the church for political stabilization.”…
            is capable of  teaching  me, or any of us,  about “the relationship between  Gentiles and Jews?”

            Do tell us more, please.

      2.  As “thoughtpolicemen” says, your statement really has no merit.  The fact that conservatives are religious means that it is in their best interests for religious freedom to continue.  Our country was founded on this concept, and it’s integral to the fabric of our nation.  The moment one religion is not allowed freedom, then it’s only a matter of time before it’s all religions.  Saying that conservatives are religious but don’t believe in religious freedom is like saying that people who are pro-choice do not believe that abortion should be legal.  It is counter-intuitive.

        1. Your argument that lack of religious freedom leads to freedom for no religions is deeply flawed.  Taliban case in point as well as the history of the RCC.  The examples are numerous.  

          The conservative position that supports  “under god” being added to the pledge of allegiance is a good example of conservative lack of religious tolerance.  There are non-theistic religions, but no one was considering their freedom from coercion when adding a theistic phrase to state-supported institutions.   Forcing the teaching of a religious concept such as “intelligent design”, in schools is another.  By definition, ID requires the existence of a supernatural being.  Since the existence of such a being is beyond the reach of science to test or explain it is therefore religious in nature.  Forcing ID on schools, a common conservative stand, is not an examples of religious freedom.   Want more?

          1.  The fact is, there is not religious freedom in places where the Taliban is in charge.  Allowing only one religion to exist is NOT religious freedom.  And generally speaking, anytime oppression of beliefs is instituted into a culture, it does not happen overnight.  It is usually a gradual process.  I do not mean to say that it will ALWAYS lead to lack of religious freedom for all religions, but I do believe that often, it will lead to oppression of most if not all religions.

            As for teaching ID in schools, I’m not sure that has actually been allowed, has it?  The issue I have with the school thing is this: Evolution, in and of itself, requires faith.  How else can someone believe that everything that is here in our universe came from nothing?  That requires as much faith, if not more, than believing that God created it.  Both require faith, and therefore both are religious in nature.  The fact that students who do NOT believe in evolution are forced to listen to ONLY that theory (it is still a theory) and have to put down the “correct” answers on tests, etc, regarding evolution, is actually not religious freedom either.  I believe both should be taught, and students should be encouraged to evaluate and decide for themselves.  Instead, they are told only one option, which again is still a theory and requires faith.  I don’t think most conservatives want only ID taught – I think they’d just like to have both theories taught so that students can decide for themselves.

            As for the phrase “under God” – anyone has the option to remain silent during that part.  No one is forced to say it, and no one is forced to believe it.  The fact remains that our nation was founded by people who believed in God, and the majority of Americans do believe in a divine power of some sort.

          2. Bravo!

             Its just like public schools teaching Greek and Roman mythology in English class. Somewhere, there are people who believe in the Greek gods and consider Homer’s Oddyssey scripture of sorts.

            If schools cannot teach Jewish teaching on the worlds origin (First five books of the Bible), then they have no business teaching Greek or Roman religion either.

          3. No it isn’t the same.  Teaching about religion, as a cultural phenomenon, does not support a particular religious viewpoint.  It is not preaching.    Requiring the teaching of ID, as Kansas did for two years, raises a religious concept to the level of scientific theory.  This is the same as preaching.

          4. You argued that “The fact that conservatives are religious means that it is in their best interests for religious freedom to continue.”  The Taliban are religious.  It was not necessary for them to allow religious freedom.  Your argument is illogical.

            Kansas required the teaching of ID from 2005 to 2007.

            The pledge is now essentially a “prayer” fostered by representatives of the state.  By your argument, we could require schools to broadcast the Lord’s Prayer every day and students would be “free” to remain silent.  What a joke.

            Religion in the public sphere and freedom are incompatible.

      3. Nasty little slur, there, Badcopnodoughnut.  Maybe you and the folks who defaced this synagogue know each other??
        Just saying.

    2. How are you so sure that “the political arena has nothing to do with this ” ?

      I’ll be more convinced when in every day political discussions it stops being right wing politically correct for the extremists to ignore the points and attack the individuals for being “too damned liberal”, at no costs.

      So, do you think you are being really being very credible, at all saying: 
      “And (besides ?) no matter what “tone” there is out there ….”, that it is not YOUR problem, too ? 

      What will it take to get all of the non-racist conservatives, who only show up to deny racism, it seems,  but who might not really be such big bigots, to stop denying that SOME conservatives not only are big bigots but that those extremist, hateful, intolerant, no compromise, bigots  do speak for all conservatives?

      After all, THEY say that they do speak for all conservatives, and get away with doing so.
      On most days no ones says that they do not. 

      They get away with saying that just because some people are “too DAMNED liberal”
       or not really ‘real’ Americans, somehow, then dismissing, dehumanizing them,
      in name of the conservative cause is acceptable, because it IS being accepted !

      What happened to your personal responsibility to connect the dots ?
      Beyond the GOTea 11th Commandment, what your conservative PC responsibility ? 

      Why is a racist attack, the dehumanization of those that might be seen by the bigots as being “too damned liberal” not your problem ?
      Other than, perhaps, you thinking you are not “too liberal” ?

      See, it is all good Americans problem, in point of fact.

      When will conservatives stop condoning such bigotry and racism in their Big Tent ?

      Except for when this kind of blatant racist crap happens, the other (better ???) conservatives do not stand up and if not say ENOUGH ALREADY !
      Never mind even saying that the dismissive extremist bigots do not speak for you, even as they claim, unchallenged, that not only that they to do indeed speak for all conservatives, but, in fact, for all the “real” Americans, as they see who they are.

      1. Mitt the inflammatory political discourse comes from both sides. I hear it with my own ears. Listen to Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz and you will hear it from them and from their callers.

        People that do vandalism like this don’t listen to talk radio, watch Fox News, read conservative newspapers or surf conservative websites.

        They do what they do because they get a thrill out of damaging other peoples property and think it’s funny to spray symbols of hate on religious buildings.

        Not everything that happens in the United States is about left or right wing ideology.

        1. “Mitt the inflammatory political discourse comes from both sides”

           So even as that is the most moderate thing I have seen you post,
           how is that not just proving my point ? You did nothing but condone right wing extremism, with flawed logic, did you ?
          Should we, or did you just compromise ?

          ” People that do vandalism like this don’t listen to talk radio, watch Fox News, read conservative newspapers or surf conservative websites.”

          Which you know because you are an authority on which ?

          ‘They do what they do because they get a thrill out of damaging other peoples property and think it’s funny to spray symbols of hate on religious buildings.”

          More total denial of the bigoted aspects of what inclusion of the extreme right, now, requires saying about con PC BIGOTRY;  
          “Not everything that happens in the United States is about left or right wing ideology.”,
          ….with  a straight face, because , now, no compromise  mean you not calling  bigotry  against what some  see as being “too damned liberal”
          as being the same bigotry that you condone, elsewhere, least you be treated like Sen. Snowe, like a RINO..

          I support your right and freedom to be a…. silly, apologist.
          But, it is just how it always has worked as the opposition,
          or scapegoats are dehumanized, too:

          “They are not being ‘real’ ‘ Americans, like us, especially when they think they can act just like we conservatives do, and make “everything that happens in the United States (or the world, including the price of gasoline)… about left or right wing ideology.”

          Does never again mean anything other than it being a priority to make 
          President Obama a one term president, to you ?

          1. jd actually puts this into perspective very nicely. This event had nothing to do with politics. It’s just a few punks getting their jollies off. There are a lot of things you can point your finger at toward the conservatives. You are doing a great job at peeing up a rope on this one. 

          2. You’d be right once everyone believes the ”
            extermination of 7,000,000 people because they were considered “sub-human” and “impure” and a “threat” to the “purity” of the “master race” had nothing to with how totalitarian politics works.

          3. Wasn’t it Prescott Bush that sold steal, arms and propaganda in his paper for Hitler? I do not think he was a liberal. Just saying

          4. Mitt your attempting to pick a fight where there is no fight to pick.

            Not every bad thing that happens in this country is political nor should we make it political.

            Whoever sprayed these emblems on these houses of worship are vandals and punks and deserved to be treated as such.

          5. “Mitt your attempting to pick a fight where there is no fight to pick. ”

            It is only called class war when we fight back  too.
            There no shaming in fighting the root causes of bigotry.
            So it goes.

            “Not every bad thing that happens in this country is political nor should we make it political.”

            Then stop doing it…. even if it requires that you conservatives must compromise.

            “Whoever sprayed these emblems on these houses of worship are vandals and punks and deserved to be treated as such.”

            Sure, and it does not happen in a vacuum.
            They are the product of a society where those who are too damned liberal, not “real” enough Americans, or otherwise different are to be dismissed, dehumanized, set straight and there is to be no compromise, there, right ? 

            You read those comment, here, too, don’t you ?

            It has all been seen before.
            If some people refuse to see its seeds, again, that is just to be expected.
            However, it will not happen here in my America because I was too polite to say anything.

            This act of bigotry just exceeds what is allowed.It is too….. too.
            It hurts even the worse racists cause because it so very obvious.
            But it is  really no different than writing off 47% of of Americans because they are politically inconvenient. 

            Those claiming to be the better Americans, the real Christians, whose protestations of their innocence, are only heard here,  
            but who , (which of YOU), will still regularly demean, disrespect, dehumanize and dismiss others as abominations OR who never speak out as others do so, saying, unchallenged, that they speak for all of you conservatives, do not have clean hands.

            They could all be called vandals and punks and they deserved to be treated as such, too.

            So I’m just doing  what you say should be done, but in the name of NEVER AGAIN, instead of in the name of your conservative recycled corporatist elitism.

            Many are called….

            BTW, what did Benito Mussolini say should better be called Corporatism ?

          6. The people that did this are nothing more than vandals, thugs, punks, etc…with nothing better to do than deface other peoples property.

            They choose an emblem that flew over a country that saw the extermination of 7,000,000 people because they were considered “sub-human” and “impure” and a “threat” to the “purity” of the “master race” because of the way they worshiped and the faith they called their own.

            By making this about politics you dishonor the souls of those 7,000,000 people that were murdered at the hands of Heir Hitler

      2.  I am trying really hard to follow your response, but honestly, I’m having a hard time.  Your writing style is a bit beyond my comprehension, I guess.  And I’m not sure when this switched to a discussion about racism.  However, I will attempt to respond, but this will likely be my last comment as this now has nothing to do with the original article.

        I’m not sure how often you spend time with or hang out with conservatives.  I do spend time with conservatives and I also listen to conservative radio, and I am, in fact, a conservative myself.  I can’t remember the last time I heard the phrase “they’re just too damned liberal.”  And actually, I CAN remember several instances of times when “conservatives” who have made racist or otherwise demeaning remarks about a certain group or person HAVE been denounced by a large majority of conservatives (example: Rep. Todd Akin who made ridiculous comments about rape was immediately denounced by fellow Republicans and conservatives).

        I would love to have real examples of all of these conservatives promoting racism and all other conservatives standing by silently.  Please feel free to comment with specific examples. 

        Conversely, I think of a recent example where Limbaugh made some stupid comments about Sandra Fluke, and he was lambasted by the the left and the right.  I did not agree with what he said and thought it was inappropriate.  Yet Bill Maher has made incredibly demeaning statements about Sarah Palin and other women (using the “c” word), and I honestly do not see the outcry from the left about that. 

        1. “Yet Bill Maher has made incredibly demeaning statements about Sarah Palin and other women (using the “c” word), and I honestly do not see the outcry from the left about that”. 

          And you’ll never hear a peep about it either wellnessmama.  You are SO correct about the double standard within the media and “hollywood” types.  It’s okay to call Sarah Palin anything you wish, but have an opinion on doling out free birth control as a “right” for women (and calling out some nobody that seeks her 15 minutes) and you’ll be labeled as waging WAR on women!  It’s okay to say you don’t agree with Palin if you wish, but the “c-word”, really…  It’s disgusting.   I’d love to hear the ultra left wingers on this thread denounce Bill Maher and others for the deplorable way they speak of Palin and any other conservative voices.  All you’ll hear is the roar of the crickets, or should I say lemmings.

          1. Hate to break it to ya’, but I’ve heard several women call Sarah Palin the c-word.

            So, no, it’s not a “war on women”.

            And I suspect that if you want the far left to denounce people being belligerent, you should lead by example, and apologize for the far right voices you pretend are somehow less belligerent.

            Also, I somehow doubt there are many “ultra left wingers” here – though it doesn’t surprise me that you’d imagine their almost nonexistent presence.

          2. Please re-read my post.  If you think there aren’t many ultra-left wingers on these threads you’re reading something else.  

            So to you, it’s okay to use the “c-word” to describe women that you disagree with.  I would dare say sir that you are anything but a charmingman.  I don’t use that phrase EVER when speaking of women.

        2. “And I’m not sure when this switched to a discussion about racism.”

          The problem is that it never got there, because of all denial and platitudes.
          But look at the photos. 

          I must hang in a rougher part of  the internet than you.

          “I would love to have real examples of all of these conservatives promoting racism and all other conservatives standing by silently.”
           
          > Cheesecake1955 6 hours ago in reply to jd2008jd 

          Probably not in this case but there has been a lot of anti-Israel stuff coming from the left lately.

          “Yet Bill Maher has made incredibly demeaning statements about Sarah Palin and other women (using the “c” word), and I honestly do not see the outcry from the left about that.

          Stop lying.

          http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/russellsaunders/2012/03/an-open-plea-to-bill-maher/

          1. Definition of racism:
            1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
            2: racial prejudice or discrimination
            I am really not sure how Cheesecake’s statement was racist.  But perhaps that’s where we have gone wrong.  You are using your own definition of racism, which seems to expand to anyone making a general statement about a country.  The statement is, if anything, criticizing the left, not criticizing a race!

            As for the Bill Maher comment, and your link to the article – thank you for that.  That is the FIRST thing I have read that was from a liberal and was criticizing him.  Meanwhile, when the Limbaugh thing happened, that is ALL I heard and read about on the radio, internet, everywhere in the media for several days, if not weeks.With that, I’m done with this discussion. 

      3. Amazing: several hundred words and not a one of them having anything even remotely to do with this article.
        Wow.

    1. Someone reported a group of kids last night that where tagging in that area. I never heard over the scanner if police made contact with them or not.

    2. “Tagged Garland Street Market also.”

      Might they be seen as being “too damned liberal”, or not “real” Americans, in some way, too ?

      1. Could be a hate crime committed by angry Muslims (as reaction
        to the movie).

        Hope the FBI is on it. Bangor has become a haven for
        criminals of all kinds.

  5. I highly doubt that the low life vandals that defaced these houses of worship with about the most offensive symbols to the Jewish faith align themselves with with any political party.

      1. OK BDN please explain why my comment needs to be approved by a moderator. It violates none of the terms of posting and uses no language deemed offensive unless you consider references to historical facts offensive….if that is the case then you need to remove the photos from this article.

        1.  Umm There is a fair amount of anti-Israel stuff coming from the left these days. Please take a note of some of these posters when the subject of Iran comes up.

          But like I said. I am sure that wasn’t the motivation here.

      2. If my comment was flagged and removed, will that be,
         or will it be allowed to remain and prove my point, please.

        ROTFLOL.

          1. I know you’re not, Cheesecakes.

            I would be more concerned about it if it were not so eminently clear that you don’t really realize what you said, either.

      3. I agree with Maine gal, you can not be serious – blaming the left for this!  OMG that is pathetic!  You must be an ultra-conserative republican!!  LOL

        1. I must comment. My own politics tend to be left of center. But there is much antisemitism under the guise of anti-Zionism on the left. There is also a lot on the right. The further out to the edges, the more pronounced because in both cases devotees keep their heads firmly wedge where no light gets in to reveal glaring discrepencies. It is a long term tradition among people who single out and scapegoat the minorities among them.

        1. Stupid tags more than likely its not someone who hates based on religion just stupid . They need and education.

          1. I might agree with you if something else was “tagged” the same way in the general area. But the fact is nothing else in the area was tagged in the same way.

            And ultimately it doesn’t matter if they knew or didn’t know it was a hate crime. If they are caught it just might be a very expensive lesson for them to learn.

        1. Maybe using the word tagging is wrong. My point of view is that “writing/painting” hateful things on someones house of worship is the act of spineless cowards.

    1. “I highly doubt that the low life vandals that defaced these houses of worship with about the most offensive symbols to the Jewish faith align themselves with with any political party.”

      Just with the sentiments one party accepts in its Big Tent.

      THAT is the point.

  6. People who do these crimes are just ignorant SOB’s, most likely they have no clue what these offensive symbols stand for. 

      1. DD, please tell me you’re kidding.  If not, it’s time to do some research.  You’re overdue for a history lesson.  It really scares me to think you might not already know this.

        1. I really hope he is being sarcastic. Anybody educated in the Americas or Europe to at least the third grade knows the significance of that symbol.

        2.  I know what it is. Its a centuries old symbol with various meanings mostly related to power or self enlightenment. Most people believe to simply be a racist symbol. Of course, they would be confused. Just because it became a racist symbol for a few decades, doesn’t make it so. That was my point, with that question. Seems like everyone forgets the nature of symbols and how the are reused and recycled.

          1. Not on a synagogue…lets be real here.  It could be any group from the extremes on the  left or the  right…they both have their anti Jew beliefs.

            Ray Dalio made an interesting (to say the least) comment in algemeiner.

            http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/23/ray-dalio-founder-of-worlds-largest-hedge-fund-weak-economy-makes-second-adolf-hitler-more-likely-video/

            I tried to post earlier about some things I have been seeing concerning anti capitalism and is anti Semitic undertones.

      2. OK, I can only assume my first answer fell into the moderation hole because it contained (in an informative context) the common abbreviation for the name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (1920-1945), so let’s try that again.

        In its NSDAP context, that symbol is properly known as a Hakenkreuz (German: “hook-cross”) – as the article implies, it’s a particular kind of swastika, which is a symbol that has had various meanings to various different cultures in history.  I’m going to have to assume you were being sarcastic with the question, though, because it’s the only way I can avoid violently facepalming, and my doctor has warned me not to do that any more.

        1.  There are lots of young folks for which the swastika is meaningless. Not their fault really. Just as there are lots of people that believe bigotry is only the purview of conservatives.

          1. Some kids I think operate in ignorance. WW2 has no real life meaning to them. They are of course responsible for their actions.

        2.  Obvious sarcasm was obvious. I was implying that letstrythisagain seems to believe its a racist symbol. It actually really isnt and this was my point. Symbols only have meaning if we apply meaning to them. The “bent cross” that is the swastika is associated with nationalism because of a short period of history. Its not a racist symbol at all. Anyone who uses it in a manor related to racism is confused. Re-purposing a centuries old symbol does not change its meaning.

          1.  In practical terms, “wasn’t” is closer to the truth than “isn’t” these days.  As the marketroids would put it, the brand is hopelessly tarnished at this point.

    1. Agree-I’d love to have them try that on my home.  They might never have seen the inside of a church or synagogue, but when I finished w/the little _astards, they’d be singing like choir boys.  

        1. Rev, I don’t know your background, but your posts indicate that either you have a reading comprehension problem or you’ve been “indoctrinated” very deeply into the fundamental/evangelical teachings,which put a literal spin on (too) many things.  I’ll try again:
          my comment meant that it would be worth it to me to have these people put graffiti on my home, thereby giving me the right to defend the latter and ensuring they did not escape with a simple slap on the wrist.  And rest assured, the least of my reactions would certainly be to see that they cleaned up the mess.
           

          1.  You cannot “defend” your home because someone spray paints it. You cannot “defend” your property if someone trespasses. I do believe you are implying you’d give them a beating. If this is the case, you would be arrested and charged with assault. Fact is, you’d be in no immediate danger unless they attacked you or displayed a weapon and threatened you. The Castle Law also only applies if you or yours are in serious danger inside your home, if I recall correctly.

            Perhaps know the law a bit before you go Schwarzenegger on some unarmed kid. Problem with tough guys (and girls, in this case) is they all too often work out the wrong muscle.

    2. Agreed I wouldn’t waste a bullet on these little punks. They need a giant but kicking and I want to use other words. These pukes are all over bangor now also the little skinhead idiots.

      1. Bangor could be cleaned up in no time with a good dose of vigilante justice. Skip all the slap on the hand BS, and organize private patrols. They are gutless wonders anyway. Just give them a good reason to move away.

        1. Vigilante justice is an oxymoron. The prospect of it ought to chill the very being of anyone who expects to live within the the rule of law under the Constitution.

        2. The people who spray painted that swastika are paying homage to a man who thought his justice was just, as well. Funny thing about morals: there is no universal rule book.

          Patrols… Its alright, Marine, Vietnam is over. We don’t need any patrols to deal with the super dangerous Graffiti/Skinhead gangs.

      2. You are incorrectly associating National Socialism with Skinhead Subculture. Fact is, they are not really related. Originally, being a skin had nothing to do with politics. The Nationalist Skin’s are an offshoot of said subculture. The reason this is a logically incorrect association is due to the nature of the media. They only talk about Skin Heads in relation to racism. Thus, people assume it to be true. Its not. Im not a skin head of either type, but verbosity lacking knowledge really does get my flames a burning. Do try harder, Conan.

      1. Geoffrey did not say HE would do anything. He stated what he would NOT do and then stated what he feels the perps need. Do you have a reading comprehension deficit?

          1. “Dude I think u do”

            Whatever…………………………. countering and deflecting, behaviors meant to divert discussion away from the question.

  7. This isn’t just tagging. Tagging is a way gangs mark their territory, like dogs urinating. Painting a swastika on a synagogue is a hate crime, pure and simple. It should be prosecuted as such, not as vandalism.

    1. Darn right it should. They find these people doing it all they do is prosecute them with some low level charge. It’s time them books get slammed and thrown at criminals again and stop asking them to hold out their wrist to get slapped instead.

      1. If and when they find these ‘people’, their sentence should consist of them cleaning it and apologizing for it. 
        More importantly, they should be made to read Anne Frank’s diary, then taken to see the Holocaust Memorial in Boston . I’m agnostic. but I stood for half an hour in those simple, clear glass structures staring at the serial # of all the victims etched into the walls and came out a blubbering fool! That would be a far better sentence than what the courts would normally give. They might even understand how wrong they were.

    2. I agree this was a hate crime and the perperators should be tried for a hate crime not just for  graffiti!

      1. A hate crime!? Kids with spray cans commiting hate crimes! In my day it was called vandalism. What good are all the new fangled laws if they don’t uphold the ones already on the books? Imagine what you want but kids will be kids. In my opinion it’s a hate crime to be hating these kids! They need guidance not labels. Where did all the adults go?

        1. If someone ‘keys’ your car ’cause it’s new and shiny, that’s vandalism.
          If someone scratches your car with a swastika because you’re Jewish, you’re sending a hateful message. Hate crime.
          The same thing if a black person moves into a neighborhood and gets  ‘Go home ni**er’ scratched in their car.   Hateful.
          Your woodpile get tipped over or clothesline cut and clothes ruined? Juvenile vandalism.

          Also, just where did they say it was kids?

          1. I agree with eyevabigun. 
            I had no Idea that Bangor had enough of a population to support two separate Temples, butthese ‘vandals’ knew how to properly draw swastikas. Kids, unless they’ve seen them tattooed on skinheads, don’t usually know which way the arms are bent. Plus who’d have thought to put 2 references to Christianity in the same place? Kids or a hater?I live in Brookline Mass (a ‘city’ surrounded on 3 sides by Boston) with a VERY large Jewish population and have spent time in NYC, so I have seen enough of it to know when it’s more likely to be kids pranking or not. That’s why I don’t believe it to be ‘common sense’ to think it’s necessarily kids. It wasn’t kid pranksters that stole the grave stone in Houlton…..

          2. Are you indeed a man of the cloth?  You should know better and you are not demonstrating “common sense”.

          3. He is not a man of the cloth.  Read his statements here and elsewhere.  A man of God would not say some of the things he says.

          4. That’s pretty much true – freedom of speech has been overly and liberally interpreted – but if you had lived through decades of anti-gay slurs, physical assaults, etc. you would understand the need hate crime regulations. It’s one thing to be beat to a pulp, but very different than being banged around for something that’s truly and unjustly hate

          5. Wasn’t it the drag queens in the Stonewall bar erupting against the cops that started the whole Pride parade thing?

          6. For the same reason only gays can call each other f*gs and only Jews can call each other k*kes, Italians-wh*ps. Ya gotta be a member of the club.

          7. Hateful messages are protected speech. No one will ever be prosecuted successfully for publishing a newspaper, newsletter, book, etc. that expresses hatred toward anyone.

          8. I was simply trying to relate to the reverend the difference between hateful and juvenile actions.  As usual, someone has to read to much into a comment.

        2. Exactly…where did all the adults go? People who produce children without teaching them respect and manners should be prosecuted right along with them. You are responsible for your children until they turn 18 right?
          Besides, these aren’t kids, they’re punks, and there’s a big difference.
          Whatever we do, let’s not make anyone responsible for their actions. All they need is 5-6 episodes of tax payer funded rehab, right?

        3. First of all, who knows, and where was it said, that the people who commited this crime were kids???  There is nothing “new fangled” about hatred, it has been around as long as man has walked the earth!!!  As to where did all the adults  – well, kids learn hatred & bigotry at home from adults!!! 

          1. I said it’s kids. Your changing my words. I never said anything about “hatred.” I said, “hate crime.”

        4. True, kids will be kids, but why would some kids spray swastikas on synagogues? Where did they get that idea, and why the decision to do it?If they are kids, how old are they, one wonders? Ten? Twelve? seventeen and eleven months? Whoever they are, they need to be caught up short and held accountable for this behavior, which to be fair, probably includes a whole lot of de-programming via counseling. 
          One thing we’ve learned about this sort of ” kids being kids” stuff is that legal authority isn’t the only element to pick up its ears: so too do the really heavy duty hate groups who are always on the lookout for recruits. To them, this sort of thing is a sign of fertile ground.

          1. Religious fanatics get worked up so easy. I’m so glad I’m done with religion. It causes more heartache, pain and death then alcohol and tobacco put together. Without religion what would you fight about? 

          2. It’s not a matter of “religious fanatics” (as you so boldly stated) being worked up – this is a matter of their safety. This was a hate crime no matter how much you try to dispute that fact. I do agree with your statement about “without religion, what would you fight about”. That is currently what we are fighting over in this world and what most of the wars are based on, religion. But that is a discussion not for here…

        5. Your minimizing and excusing of this behavior is the real crime, “Reverend.”  This is what happens when “adults” shirk their responsibilities; you enable it.  You are the problem.

          1. Rev, you have some serious problems here, both with spelling and with your ability to express yourself clearly.  I can only hope you are not a pastor/preacher because if you are, you are leading your flock astray.

          2. Wow you sure do read a lot into things. Who said I was a pastor or preacher? Google the meaning of “Reverend,” Miss.

          3. adjective (usu. Reverend)used as a title or form of address to members of the clergy : the Reverend Jesse Jackson

            • dated (of a person) deserving deep respect or reverence on account of advanced age, personal ability, great learning, etc.

            Since you deny the former, you must be using the second (dated) definition.

            Did I win with the ‘right answer’?

        6. Goodness, someone was asleep in History class!  Let me be very clear to you–when you deface a synagogue with swastikas, it’s the highest order of a hate crime.  Those of us who saw this crap the first time around are not going to let it happen again.  Wake up and get educated.

      2. Vandalism? Really? So, if someone burned a cross on the lawn of an African American you’d consider it to be ‘vandalism’?? Synagogue. Swastika. You don’t see the evil connection? Pull your head out of your, errrr, out of the sand!

    3. I agree Steve sad thing is though pretty sure this is the same Longa guy that want to allow thins on a building down town. I think that the punishments need to be more firm to these punks. That is what they are punks. Makes me sick when I see these skinheads in bangor I think that they need to look there first.

    4. Wow, this story really made many of the commentors break out a new box of Kleenex.  Hate crime is even worse than regular crime because it hurts someone’s feelings?   Just catch them and sentence them to 6 months of scrubbing every square inch in Bangor.  You buncha babies.  

    5. Funny how the State of Maine views a hate crime. I had a guy admit that he desicrated my sacred sweatlodge wich is MY CHURCH, by dumping trash all over it, and the State said it was just a unfriendly niehbor…….

    6. I think we need intent . If it was just a kid or who did this.  Many people were killed in the name of Jesus . It dose not mean that all christian who draw crosses are evil or full of hate.  The Klan when it was formed was not evil . just saying people used it and did evil thing with it. Did they intend to harm or hurt or was this a sick joke? No one was hurt by this. We all have hurt feeling because of this. If some local movement is getting out of control with hatetread maybe this is a good thing we find out know so we can stop it. If I put a cross on a christian church is that a hate crime? We could argue maybe have been killing in the name of Christians . Very tasteless act. We need to find out who did this and also why.

    7. Some kids would paint a swastika for the hell of it, with no particular animosity behind it. You DO have get into the mind of a defendant in these cases to determine whether the act was motivated by hatred.

      That said, we walk a dangerous line when we punish someone for their beliefs in addition to their actions.

  8. vandals are out of control. harder punishment needed, glad they got the clowns that stole the headstone the other day, no one is spared today the kids dont respect any religion its all fun to them sick

    1.  Perhaps they are learning religion is not worthy of respect? I mean, I am sure its not the case 90% of the time (and nor is it now, given the incorrect usage of a swastika), but it is possible.

  9. And because of an ignorant person or two, we will see the steady increase of public outcry against spraying painting, tags and street art. Until, we start putting people in prison for it or some other ludicrous punishment. 

    You ever seen some of the really elaborate tags and things done on train cars? Some of them are art pieces, in all aspects and its harmful to no-one. You see that upside drown cross and those 6’s written in pencil? Thats garbage (kid wasn’t even a satanist or he’d have taken the time to make a baphomet).

    There is a difference between someone painting a swastika on a synagogue, a small inoffensive stencil on back of a stop sign, and a colorful mural on a cement wall under a bridge . Let us treat things for what they are, and not for what they are similar to. And, let us bare in mind the mental capacity of those doing said things, as well, before making sweeping generalizations.

    Swastika’s are just so 1940. Figure kids would have learned that its not truly a racist symbol. Im sure they could probably think of something more appropriate, given the idle time they have. Or, perhaps I am giving them too much credit. Maybe they cant think and thats why they poorly tagged a place with incorrect symbols.

    1.  The main difference between really pretty graffiti (and I acknowledge that there is some) and art is that Michelangelo had the owner’s permission to paint the Sistine chapel.  This remains a reasonably important point of law, IMO.

  10. Likely teenagers or twenty-somethings, perhaps gang-related or a few stupid kids.  Should be prosecuted, though, as a hate crime but I doubt it will.  Liberal judges will probably give them 3 months probation and a $100 fine – if they’re even caught.

    1.  I admit I’m going out on a limb here, but I have to say I don’t think this incident has a single thing to do with Islam.

      1. I never said it did, Ben!  I was merely stating the fact that if one defends religious freedom, it should apply to all religions!!!

      1. Obviously you didn’t really read my response to Ben – I NEVER said it had anything to do with Islam!!!  Please re-read my reply!!!

  11. This is NOT vandalism. This is a hate crime. When they are caught this NEEDS to be prosecuted as a HATE crime.

  12. What a horrible thing to do, deface a place of worship. The swasticka, symbol of Hitler’s reign, carry’s a heavy load of destruction, death, and cruel action. Their is no excuse, no overlooking this most horrible defacing. Millions died to end this, if, it had not been for the courage of British in the Battle of
    Britain, and the US to follow, and I must add, some twenty million dead in Russia fighting to end this reign of terror. Whole populations, whole Countries not daring to speak their mind, so we must remember the courage of all whole fought to end this, to make the swasticka crumble in the dust. What scares me some is, new generations are approaching that have no idea of even our past, even of the 20th Century.  

    1.  It must be horribly annoying to be a member of any one of the handful of different cultures for whom the hooked cross meant entirely different things before 1933.  Not that I’m implying the perpetrators in this case are – context pretty well rules that out – but still, it must be.

    2. These are kids doing this. Get a grip. They don’t even know what they’re doing. They could care less about Hitler or Britain or Russia, or you. They’ll get caught sooner or later. But they are still kids, your neighbors kids. They are not the enemy. They need guidance. 

      1. How do you know who is doing this? If they can associate a swasticka and a synagogues, then they know something, do not be so naive. Ignorance of history is no defense.

        1. I agree – there has been a lot of tagging going on – some “gang” crap was painted on the road in front of my house & the building next to it – but, other than the synagogues,  where else in the city has anyone seen swastickas?

          1. Manna got hit not too long ago, as did a Postal box in Hampden, THAT could be considered tagging, but like pattenpond said, if you can make the connection between that symbol and a Synagogue, then you know well enough that youre doing something incredibly hateful.

        2. And Christopher Columbus was a hero . At least that what I was taught in school. Never mine that he was the biggest slave trader in word history . Commited genocide and any other bad thing he did. We celebrate him with his own day . What kind of example does that set for the rest of the world.  Most people  do not know the facts because they were lied to in school, and are society. History should be taught fair and unbiased. 

          1. For a very obvious reason, People tend to love myths and hate history, for, studied honestly, one finds no such thing as feel-good (or feel bad) history. 

          2. That is really no excuse for teaching Lies. If we could be more honest maybe we could understand things a bit better . People tend to be sheep and do not want to see the truth. When I said the German people were decent religious people during WW11 My post are always deleted .  I in no way support what happened . Just saying real lesson could be learned from history. 

          3. They may not know the fact that tribes in Africa caught and sold other tribes. It was not always the Europeans.

          4. Right now its looking like we will be slaves soon lol. Schools indoctrinate they do not teach how to think . They teach what to think. 

      2. Guidance that you, evidently, are not equipped to provide. By excusing this behavior, you enable it. Are you really a reverend?  That is frightening.

      1. Right i did not just mean Bangor i just mentioned Bangor, been in Portland, all over there too, but Bangor its everywhere now and its getting annoying to look at.  My office building got hit hard, what did the cops do, report.  They should require a i d for spray paint now.  Its the only way the solution is probably gonna be solved, and that probably will not solve it.

      2. It used to be special!!  The Bangor I grew up in (1950 & ’60s) was a quitet family-friendly town, without all the drugs & hatred!!!

        1. There!  And the only way it will stand a chance of returning to be special is if these actions are met with the outrage they deserve from society.

  13. Lame.  And not nearly cryptic enough.  Whatever happened to TOYNBEE IDEAS IN KUBRICK’S “2001” RESURRECT DEAD ON PLANET JUPITER?

  14. This is absolutely outrageous!!! It makes me physically ill….The offenders should be prosecuted as a hate crime, and these fools need to be punished….

  15. Obviously the vandals are unaware that the swastika is a buddist symbol for peace, harmony and the higher sense of self. The upside down cross is the Christian cross of St. Peter. We all know what 666 means but you kind of have to believe in God to believe in the Devil. Seeing as i doubt these people are devil worshippers,  the joke really is on these moronic uneducated fools.

    1. Well Adolf Hitler permanently perverted the Buddhist symbol for peace, harmony and the higher sense of self by using it as a symbol of  self. I wonder if these vandals are the same ones that spray painted the same symbol on Manna’s sign a month or so ago.

      I am sure that the vandals responsible knew exactly what they were doing and the message they were sending to a Jewish house of worship.

  16. I don’t think any city or town should need local ordinances to deal with this. If state law does not cover it well enough, it should be revised. It’s vandalism and it’s also a hate crime.

  17. I agree with the Counciler…it is very disgusting.  The problem with most adolescents these days is that they don’t have enough to do to keep themselves out of mischief….no jobs, lazy, don’t want a job, etc.  They need to go through brain development!  I’m not of the Jewish faith, but I do respect other peoples’ religions.

  18. In the Republican vision of our nation the wealthy enjoy all the benefits of being so and the rest of us are supposed to be satisfied with what ‘trickles’ down from their efforts. The problem with this is that they dismiss the 47% of society they see as unworthy. Those so dismissed don’t feel that they have a place in our society and rebel. Some occupy public places as a means of protest while some others express their discontent in other less acceptable ways such as vandalism. The ultra rich have convinced some members of the middle class that their tax money is being wasted by teachers and social workers who try to socialize those who will become the next generation of our society. We are now seeing the results of this strategy of depriving those who should be directed toward a life of respect, responsibility, and become a productive member of society. The most scary thing is that the next generation will be poorer, less educated, and more disinterested in being a part of the community they live  in. The de-evolution of America is being engineered by the greedy few who will benefit from America becoming a third world country. It’s already begun and you don’t need to look any further than Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s tax forms that shows him having accounts in several foreign countries like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

    1.  … or maybe they’re just dumb kids who thought it would be a hoot to shock some people.  Ockham’s razor favors this explanation.

  19. When the thing you are most proud of and your greatest accomplishment is the color of your skin, you really don’t have much going for yourself. 

  20. This is not tagging. Now this is vandalism and a hate crime at that. There’s  just somethings you shouldn’t do with a spray can.  This is one of them. Now i’m a graffiti artist and I’m offended that someone would do this, people who do things like this makes us ” real” artists look bad, hence the reason city hall is getting a legal wall for writers like us to paint on!

    1. If you paint on someone else’s property that is vandalism, if you have done that you are a vandal. Calling yourself an “artist” does not change facts. Probably what you consider your “art” actually encourages acts like this whether you want to admit it or not.

  21. The city of Bangor incourages tagging.. Maybe the city can have another meeting and invite more taggers to express their concerns about not having enough wall space… City hall and the new Arena have blank walls. The city wants to be so progressive and allow people to express their feeling on other peoples property.. Try tagging the council members homes and see if they like tagging then. 

    1. Push this isn’t tagging…it is and was vandalism and a hate crime. Open your eyes push and see it for what it is.

      1. Well pick up the haters and taze them. If it is a hate crime arrest them and let the feds put them in federal prison… They will get to meet minorities there.

  22. Despite the tendency to cast this (and just about everything it seems) in political terms, there is a more basic truth here for me.  It is that my children (4th generation Bangorians, by the way), now associate fear and hatred with a place that has until now represented community, family, and sanctity.   What politician can restore to them what these punks have taken  away?

  23. I don’t know if this was “a hate crime”, or just some stupid kids.

    And neither does anybody else.

    So lets not get hysterical, if it upsets you so much, do something positive.

    The people at these synagogues are very gracious, and appreciate it when you send them a card, give them a ring, or stop by and let them know that you support them.

    1. No when you use a symbol that flew over a government that murdered 7,000,000 people of the Jewish faith and use that symbol on a house of worship of the Jewish faith it IS a hate crime.

        1. I don’t recall the last time a vandal defaced anything related to our Native American brothers with a “Spanish Crown”.  Do you?

          1. I guess you missed the whole point yes this may be a hate crime . But how is celebrating Day in honor of people who did nefarious things not hate.  
            Biggest slave trader in world history . By some accounts his men hunted people for sport ad even dog food. Yes these people who do things like this are wrong . That being said the myths we were taught in school are also wrong . We need piece in the small dangerous world . I might be a bit off topic . Point is we need to take responsibility for are actions . How we may have contributed to 911 and our role in the world . Educate these( probably kids) now. Not to promote hate .   I remember when Iran was our buddy then Iraq and even afganistan . Those places did not change in a few short years. The years leading up 2 ww2 we were not even sure who’s side we would take the holocost was a bad thing but that had nothing to do with what side we chose .   I do not hate america but we need to open our eyes and be honest . Tar and feathers for the people who did this will only make more hate.

          2. The United States has done much over its history since 1776 for others and have asked for virtually nothing in return. We helped rebuild Europe after WWII. Have we practiced the “the enemy of my enemy is my friend doctrine”? Yes…maybe to many times.

            Which country has put aside petty differences when a country has been racked with a natural disaster?

            Do we do everything right? No. But I cannot think of any country that gets everything right.

            Just like my feelings about Congress, the new Egyptian President has some interesting things to say “Morsi: Don’t expect Egypt to live by America’s rules”. OK, but do you think that is a way to start a conversation to increase understanding between nations? I don’t.
            http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/23/morsi-dont-expect-egypt-to-live-by-america-rules/#ixzz27KvpU8iNSee I don’t blame the Muslim religion for 9/11. I blame those responsible and those that provided safe haven so they could train.But the person(s) responsible for this act need to be punished pure and simple. I’m not looking to “tar and feather” them but I am looking for appropriate punishment and in this case some jail time is just what the doctor ordered.But in closing let me ask you this. What did the U.S. do to precipitate the current violence in the Middle East?

          3. I do not think it is a direct cause and affect of any one thing we did.  We have started many wars .  Supported  Isreal with money, jet planes, military arms.   That would be like saying what did we do to get the Japs to bomb pearl harbor . How about sending are fighter pilots and places to China and shooting down Japanese planes . It was going to happen we were are ready involved . WW2 is something we needed to finish . Not saying we were wrong for doing so.  This is a bit off topic but not really . Hitler happened because the oppression and poverty after loosing ww1 . Bottom line is no one is an island everything we do affects something else.  Something that needs to be understood by all sides.  They have fought in the middle east for 1000s of years. Us being involved makes us unpopular. That is not excuse for the violence. Tell me what is the excuse for Iraq . If I remember right Bush gave Sadam 24 hours to hand over the WMDs that he did not have. I was very unpopular not supporting the war.  We stand by and lets millions die In Darfor.  The real reason we are in the middle east is about Oil . Not about the right thing to do.  People want to be free ? women had more right under Sadam than they do now.  I will tell you this much the civial death toll is in the 100s of thousands because our wars. If someone killed my family Osama would look like a girl scout.  It s way to complicated . Different cultures have different vaules but the people are no more good or evil than we are they are just people.

          4. The origins of U.S. involvement in WWII had nothing to do with the AVG. There was an “Eagle” Squadron flying for the British long before U.S. entry too and that had nothing to do with our entry either.

            Your “history” lesson is so far off base that I really don’t know where to begin so I wont. You wouldn’t believe what I would say anyway so I not going to bother.

            It takes two people (or countries) to work on compromise and I don’t see anyone from either side looking to compromise.

            Now was the spraying of swastikas on not one but two Jewish synagogues a hate crime or not?

  24. “Buckley said graffiti and incidents of vandalism have been on the rise over the last week or so.” Was this since the BDN wrote the last article about it? Keep writing about it. Keep it in the minds of the youth that are doing it. LOL Sometimes the smart ones aren’t so smart.

        1. Well let’s see….the paid circulation has been decreasing for years….the young folk I know don’t read it….I have never seen a young person walk out of a store with one in their hands or under their arms….so….

          Do I know 100% that they don’t read the BDN? No but I highly doubt that a person or persons that have this much time on their hands are interested in the BDN.

  25. This comment section has turned into an argument about religion! I am again disgusted at so called “adults” who have nothing better to do than argue about religion. Forget about the subject of the article. Forget about the “kids” who are commiting vandalism. Forget about, “Can’t we all just get along.” Forget about what your religion teaches. What a farce! What upstanding wholesome role models you are for our young. Be proud of what you have produced. If your not part of the solution then your part of the problem.

  26. Anyone caught or found guilty of such a crime, should be forced to see what the result of the hate that this symbol represented during the 1930’s into and thru World War II. There are many hours of recorded proof that this was and still is the ultimate in hate. Start the class, as with the residents of the towns that housed the concentration camps, with a complete visual course of the horror of the camps. Then a written test that must be passed. Maybe then the decision to deface another’s  house of worship might be changed.

  27. It’s a pretty sad affair when this is the kind of thing some people think they need to do in order to feel good about themselves.  Just pitiful.  It’s not hard to visualize how kids from a bad home life could do stuff like this, but some of these immature hate-mongers probably came from good homes whose parents would be heartbroken to see how their child went off the rails in spite of their best efforts to raise them in a good home.

  28. The Maine ACLU will get off whoever did this on the grounds of expressing their free speech.  And do not expect the Holder and the Department of Injustice to step in, would be contrary to the tenets of their Muslim lover boss Obama!

  29. it is a hate crime.  Putting the swastika on a Jewish place of worship is very cruel.  Even those of us who are not Jewish should understand the sense of violation those individuals feel who go there.

  30. Things like this server to remind us all just how little distance we have actually traveled from living in caves and beating the ground with a club. This sort of ignorance would make a Neanderthal bristle.

  31. This “vandalism” as the BDN calls it, is much more than the misbehavior of a few nincompoops who may or may not understand the seriousness of the damage they’ve inflicted. Given the growing nastiness in what passes for public discourse these days, this is very dangerous stuff. Please call it what it is. 

  32. The city needs to crack down on this.  They need to really dig into it.  The nice statues are sprayed, and many of our other nice monuments and structures.  It is really disgusting.  Investigate this stuff.  Put cops out in plainclothes.  Etc.  It is criminal mischief, and racial stuff is a hate crime.  Throw the book at it.  Meantime, make the prisoners at the jail clean it off.  When they catch those who do it, it needs to be fines, jail time, and some COMMUNITY SERVICE cleaning it off EVERYWHERE.  Neighbors need to report it if they ever see it being done.  The community needs to take ownership too.

  33. Why don’t some Christians go and paint over the mess with white paint today? Do the Christian thing and help your brother. GO FOR IT!!!! I live many states away or would do it myself. It is a HATE CRIME too.

  34. Thank God this was not another senseless act of violence, like the one that occurred last month at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Paint can be removed, and ignorance can be enlightened, but the pain from casualties cannot be fixed. Love thy neighbor, indeed.

  35. I don’t use this word often but your post has to be one of the most ignorant I have ever read. Why the BDN has left your link up for an hour is beyond me.

  36. I will never forget growing-up within our local church, and our Sunday school class setting-up the “Nativity-Scene” out front of our church.  On the morning of Christmas Eve., walking into church for service, I noticed our Priest and members of the church standing around a “Spray painted, knocked-over Nativity Scene with a missing “Baby Jesus.”  I also remember Law Enforecement and the community refer to this act as “VANDALISM.”  Then and now, the feeling I have about that incident feels a little more deep than VANDALISM.

  37. AMRS 507 doesn’t mean anything. It’s 17-A MRS, Sect. 507. However, because most people don’t know what “MRS” stands for, it should be spelled out: “Maine Revised Statutes.”

  38. The statue of Mary was pulled down in the baby section of mount pleasant cemetery last year. I have a child there. They said that was probably just kids. There is too much disrespect and hatefulness towards religion in general.

    It broke my heart to see the desecration

  39. A cowardly act, likely learned from home.  Unfortunately when/if the cowards are caught, very little will happen to them in Maine’s judicial system. They will go to court,cry,say they sorry, and blab,blab,blab. I welcome Jewish people to move to Skowhegan

  40. I have been reading the comments associated with this story, and many of them go far off the track. I think most people understand the hate that is associated with the swatstika. It was not always used to symbolize hate, but since WW II that is what it has meant. This is more than simply tagging and graffiti, it is meant to be offensive and hateful. If it is kids, then the adults are falling down on their responsibility of teaching them right from wrong. If it is adults, then they have some serious issues to contend with.

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