AUGUSTA, Maine — Supporters of same-sex marriage continue to outpace the opposition in fundraising but by a much smaller margin than earlier this year, according to the latest reports filed with the state Commission on Governmental Ethics and Election Practices.
Mainers United for Marriage, the campaign urging Mainers to vote yes on Question 1, raised about $964,000 during the most recent reporting period of Oct. 1-23. So far, supporters of gay marriage have raised a total of $4.3 million. The largest contributor for the period was the Human Rights Campaign Fund, based in Washington, D.C., which gave the campaign more than $300,000.
The organization opposing the referendum, Protect Marriage Maine, raised nearly $950,000 during the same period, bringing its total to $1.4 million. It received $800,000 in first three weeks of October from the National Organizations for Marriage, based in Washington, D.C., and another $100,000 from the Knights of Columbus.
Supporters also received more in-kind contributions than opponents did. The campaigns received $353,353 and $1,173, respectively, in in-kind contributions.
Question 1 will ask voters if they want to allow marriage licenses to be issued to same-sex couples. Three years ago, Mainers repealed 53 percent to 47 percent a law that would have legalized gay marriage.
In 2009, the campaign that wanted the law to remain in place spent about $4 million compared to the $2.5 million spent by those who wanted to repeal it. Earlier this year, supporters of same-sex marriage predicted it would spend between $4 and $5 million on the campaign. Opponents said they would raise less than half of that.
If voters in Maine were to pass Question 1, it would be the first state in the nation to approve gay marriage by a referendum vote. Same-sex marriage has been legalized in six states by lawmaker or the courts.
Interesting that the “comments” section for many recent articles is closed, including the letters-to-the-editor for Monday, October 29!
Also find it interesting that contactint the liberal bloggers is easy, but “contact” does not work for reaching the conservative and Christian bloggers.
NO on Question 1 is the only way to vote November 6!
Paranoid much?
All comment sections get closed so why do you find it interesting? After a story has run for about 2 days they close the comment section and they do this for all stories.
YES on Question 1 is the only way to vote November 6!
Definitely, Yes on 1.
Why are you so anti-hetrosexual? why do you hate straight people so much.. VOTE NO!!!!
Psssst. Guess what the sexual orientation of the vast majority of “Yes on 1 ” supporters is. (Hint: we are not homosexual)
Tyke, if they want to use the term anti-gay to discribe the vote no crowd, I will impress on them the term anti-Hetrosexual. I am making a point about the language they use.. Voting NO doesn’t make people bigots or haters.. My moral values have drawn a line in the sand. It’s to bad because I was certain about voting yes until the nastyness of the anti-hetrosexual crowd making comments were nasty to the vote no crowd. To much unresolved anger for my taste.
And the people that supported segregation didn’t hate blacks either, they just had to draw that line in the sand.
For many of them, you are correct. By the way, segregation remains in place to this day. It is a function of economics and cultural choices more than hatred.
What color are gays? and when were gays slaves to hetros? Were gays kidnapped from their countries and families? Were they forced into homosexual behavior against their will? When were they allowed to make choices like get jobs and were gays allowed to learn to read and write because comprehensive reading ie: understanding no thank you does not mean hate, doesn’t seem to ring any bells with gays and lastly GAY means fun, happy, cheerful and how did these seemingly mean people get such a nice word for a description of their life style?
“Were gays kidnapped from their countries and families?” – No, just executed.
“Were they forced into homosexual behavior against their will? ” – No, just fored into asylums where they were “cured” through lobotomies and electroshock “therapy”
” understanding no thank you does not mean hate” – No, but denying me my rights does mean hate.
A comparison doesn’t mean things are identical. But yes, gays have been kicked out of their homes, have had their homes raided, they have been killed, they have been fired from their jobs, forced to lie about themselves, had the media lie about them, etc.
I know you don’t want to admit that gays have been and currently are being discriminated against, because that would make you feel guilty for how you behave, but your willful ignorance doesn’t change history.
I have not kicked out, fired, burned at the stake, lied about, given lobotomy’s to, put in nut houses, discriminated against in anyway, refused friendship to anyone because of color, race, faith, expand on true stories to make it look worse, have never supported anyone who acts that way to other people or sexual preference unless it has to do with animals and kids.
I don’t believe in marriage so I’m not voting for anything for anyone that I don’t believe in.
I, on the other hand could say I’m against special tax deductions to anyone for any reason, marriage, kids and the rich. so does that mean because people won’t give these things up they hate me? No, I rather look at it as people don’t want to be financial responsible for their choices.
Voting no is voluntarily harming law abiding citizens.
You must feel like a big boy when you do that, huh?
A few people in the news paper do not represent all those in favor of yes on 1. My family would greatly appreciate your vote. I dont think people are haters.
Unfortunately, based on comments from push in other article, you aren’t going to get pushtheredbutton to support equality.
If you read my comments when the issue came out months ago, you would find I was voting yes. I signed the petition to get it to ballot.. It is truly the nastyness.
If you truly believed in equality, you wouldn’t make those gays and lesbians who are leading quiet lives pay for the nastiness that you’ve seen from some of those on our side. You also wouldn’t give those on the opposing side a free pass for their nastiness.
So, you were going to vote for equality, but then people were mean on the internet, so now same sex couples shouldn’t get equal treatment? Is that what you are saying?
Ah, I see now. You are a classic “concern troll”.
Suuuuure you were going to vote yes. We ALL believe THAT one.
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wink-wink nudge-nudge
It is pretty sad if you would let random comments to a news story decide your political views. You’re correct that voting NO doesn’t make you a bigot or a hater, but often the reasons you hear for voting NO do make the person a bigot or a hater. Why play games with another person’s rights? This means a lot more to a lot of people, than any comment thread on the BDN will ever display.
Seek help.
Wow… you’re deeper in that closet than anyone I’ve ever met.
I am not anti hetero, my parents are hetero, my children are hetero, by best friends are hetero. They are all voting for my family.
No way, yes on 1.
Contact for any of the blogs seems to be by social media only. Too bad, I don’t participate in FaceBook.
The Letters for Monday were posted very early, Sat. afternnoon about 3:00. They should not have been closed so early. Take note, BDN. Why?
Also interesting is the selective use of “flagged for review”
Wonder how many campaign laws the anti-gay marriage side broke this time around…
an total lies to an people are dumb enough to believe them to
So you support SSM then, correct?
Was the list of donor names ever released?
wonder how many laws the ANTI-HETROSEXUALS broke?
It’s hard yo imagine what you are thinking about here, since the vast majority of “Yes on 1” ( marriage equality) supporters are heterosexual .
None. That’s why they don’t have several court judgments against them.
Ummm … Push … it’s “hetero”, in case you want to go back and edit your posts!
thank you, I did correct it. (-; Not sure the anti- hetrosexuals could figure a sentence with a mis-spelled work in it. Nice catch.
But what ever the partner get he/ she would half to pay taxes on it . Now another thing how would like it if you had to have a note from your wife so you could visit her in the hospital to visit if you did not have a note her mother could bar you from visiting her in the hospital an thats all ready happen to partners
Why does anyone one to marry the person they love? IS it just for money? That’s not why I want to get married. That’s not why my mom and dad or my partner’s children got married. I think you need to learn more about marriage and why people get married. (By the way-POA documents only apply when both parties are living, so it doesn’t affect anything once one of the partners die. And putting the “s” like that is silly-we are not fighting to marry multiple partners-we want what straight people have now).
And, really, NO ONE has ever said that two men having sex will result in a baby.
As for surrogate mothers-that was started by straight people who couldn’t have babies.
Lastly, your whole tone is enough to show that, while you may not be “against gays,” you sure don’t have any respect for us.
RJ, it is best to just flag his comments and move along.
You seem to be a ANTI-HETROSEXUAL why so mymuch hate for hetros?
How would we know ” why so your hate for hetros”?
Do you really think that?
I am anti-ignorance and that goes for ignorance on both sides.
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don’t think it’s right to put down religion and I don’t think it’s right to compare marrying the one you love to having sex with animals.
And I especially think it’s unfair to make misleading statements about people. Why do you say what you say about me? (Then again, I don’t think I really understand what it is you’ve typed).
pushtheredbutton wrote, in response to Regular Joe:
You seem to be a ANTI-HETROPSEXUAL why so my hate for hetros?
Try being a gay guy in gym class. Or trying being a gay walk walking alone at night down the street.
While the climate is better for us here in the US and it’s certainly not like Iran or Egypt, there is still a lot of danger for many of us in parts of our country and state. Especially in areas where people think we’re gross, evil, or pedophiles.
It’s the final act of madness of a depraved and dying civilization.
America is $16 trillion in debt; no one trusts the government, the divorce rate is 50%; we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and the largest number of prisoners; armed gangs of illegal aliens deal drugs in our largest cities; 1 out of 5 adults are on antidepressants and the rest smoke dope; and now you claim to be progressive by allowing men to marry one another, one to play the role of husband and the other to play the role of wife.
And then the most honored man in town jumps off a bridge because he is a child molester.
You are sick America, and you are getting sicker.
How do all of those other bad statistics relate to SSM. Oh yeah, you limited it to “allowing men to marry each other, one to play the role of husband and the other to play the role of wife”. Apparently it would be OK with you if two women could get married? How big of you, how Christian (not). Also, you and your fellow travelers continue to emphasize sex as the only reason to get married. What a way to degrade any marriage.
And yet, you are a citizen of this America. You are critcizing and degrading yourself.
So, what do you intend to do about it?
If God turns His back on us it will be for the unnecessary war in Iraq and all the unneeded suffering and death we unleashed on the innocent people of that nation.
Wow, you have no faith. There are so many beautiful things in this world. As a religious man I would think you would be excited that we are screwing things up so bad (your words) that the messiah will come and take you away to Heaven. If this is the end times are nt you happy?
Your post has been copied and pasted, also it has been flagged. I will also take the time to forward your e-mail to the online editor so they can see your abusive comments. I truly hope they place a ban on you.
Edit: E-mail has been sent with your entire post.
Judge Kevin, the great flagger of freedom of speech. I didn’t see the comment but I think you would enjoy being a censor restricting people freedoms to express their opinions.
This is a private web site that has rules. It has nothing to do with freedom of expression or speech. Randall enjoys posting rude and hateful comments.
No, this is a public web site. And the First Amendment is paramount. Unfortunately, the BDN and their platoon of censors adapts the First Amendment to fit their requirements.
No, it is a private web site and the 1st does not apply to private web sites but for some reason you do not understand that simple fact.
No it is not!
It is a privately owned website. The First Amendment only applies to the government.
The First Amendment prevents the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and no one else from interfering with your Freedom of Speech. The BDN is not the Federal Government and has no duty to guarantee you or anyone unfettered free speech.
The BDN has NO authority to circumvent the United States Constitution. Being part of the printed media, it is they, and others of like intent who make the most noise when they believe THEIR First Amendment rights have been violated. But THEY are the first to violate ours.
Hypocrites.
No, it is a private web site.
Your whole movement is based on lies and suppression of the truth.
You claim to be for marriage, but if you win, the words “husband” and “wife” will be removed from the laws of Maine.
No, they won’t.
You appear to be completely unaware of what the concept of freedom of speech entails.
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Try reading the US Constitution some day. It’s a great document – IF you understand it that is.
Good work, Kevin. Some people deserve to be banned from posting.
Thank you. I have very thick skin but Randall wants to keep pushing and pushing. Tonight I pushed back and I will keep pushing back.
YAY! He’s back!!! Keep on keepin’ on! The more you write, the worse your side sounds!
sides. really? So your supporting the ANTI-HETROSEXUAL crowd.
Anti-hetro? Are gay people enacting legislation preventing straight people from marrying?
It would deprive me of the free exercise of my religion to marry same sex couples. Marriage is ordained by the church. The wording of Question No. 1, as it is written, should be unconstitutional to ask.
Don’t be dishonest. This is about civil marriage. The state doesn’t step into churches and force them to ordain or hold ceremonies and they won’t be able to even after this passes. Notice how the state doesn’t force a church to hold a ceremony for an interfaith couple or for couples that have previously been divorced?
I got married by a JP, and I am certainly “married.” This has nothing to do with religion, unless you are upset that your church will be performing SSM services.
The anti-Hetrosexual crowd is alive and well in the comments I see. Why are so many liberals ANTI-HETROSEXUAL?
Keep telling yourself that. I’m sure it makes you feel better.
Why are you so sexually confused?
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The vast majority of people supporting marriage equality for gays are heterosexuals.
I think you have it wrong.
Last time a little less than half voted in favor. You think they’re all gay? Use your brain.
47% of Maine voters supported gay marriage kast time and polls predict it will be more this time.
Are you claiming that 47% + of Mainers are gay?
Wrong!
Don’t get out much do you?
So you contend that 47% of Maine is gay? That’s the % that supported gay marriage last time and this time it looks like a majority will.
It’s is very clear looking at FACTS that the majority of supporters of gay marriage are heterosexual.
I know – I used some math and math is hard.
We don’t hate you because you are heterosexual, we hate you because you are a bigot trying to take away our rights.
Cute little buzz word you’re trying to create. Do you think it might catch on?
However, how is asking for the same rights, laws and protections for homosexuals making the pro-equality side “anti-Hetrosexual”? (btw..it’s Heterosexual). Is the pro-equality side attempting to deny heterosexuals rights and freedoms? Are they attempting to make heterosexuals a second class citizen?
Yet, you have a group of people who are attempting to deny the homosexual population equal rights… thus, they are against the “gay population”. I think anti-gay would fit in this instance.
And… considering the estimates of percentages, the homosexual community is about 2 1/2 – 5 % of the population, yet, over 50% of the population agree with pro-equality. So… that other percentage that are not homosexual are just self loathing heterosexuals?
Shhhh, that’s waaaaaaaay too much logic. I’m not sure push would be able to handle it…
Vote NO on 1.
“Vote to Harm Law-Abiding Maine Citizens”
Fixed.
Don’t forget taxpaying Mainers!
It is amazing what a low-minded person you are.
Homosexuals and their liberal enablers are hell-bent on destroying the integrity of the institution of marriage by advancing an agenda of perversion that seeks protection under the government auspices of equal rights. If these sybarites and violators of nature are given one inch they will strangle every last vestige of dignity from America’s soul, and you will curse the day that you gave them quarter.
Tell us sweetcheeks… exactly what is going to happen?
“Agenda of perversion?” What exactly is perverse?
OMG seriously. Other countries have SSM and they live in peace. It is those countries ruled by religion who are in constant turmoil. Thomas Jefferson stated this country has never been based on Christianity.
Here are some quotes from Thomas Jefferson.
“The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty. A student’s perusal of the sacred volume will make him a better citizen, a better father, a better husband.” – Thomas Jefferson
I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our Creator and, I hope, to the pure doctrine of Jesus also.” Thomas Jefferson God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure if we have removed their only firm basis: a conviction in the minds of men that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.” – Thomas Jefferson
Do you have a source for your first quote, like a letter or speech? Because when I search for it, the only results I get are article saying that that quote is fake.
Also, here is another quote from Thomas Jefferson:
“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”
Letter to Danbury Baptists, 1802
Yes that quote is a good one. It is stating that he doesn’t want a law telling the people that they have to worship the religion that government tells them too and that we should have the right to exercise our right to worship freely. This is why they fled from England. If people think that seperation of Church and state means that church shouldn’t have any part in state, then why did they pray before and after meetings. Why did they profess Christ as God? Why did they say without God we would crumble? Why did they warn us to be mindful that the power of government isn’t a good thing?
Still waiting for a source on your first Thomas Jefferson quote.
As for the rest of your post, I think Jefferson’s quote is quite clear. The government will not influence the church and the church will not influence the government. That whole “wall of separation” bit. You can’t have a wall separating them if religion constantly slithers over that wall to force their religion on the rest of the people.
I’ll leave this other quote from the Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, here:
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”
What federal document do you have that counters this?
http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm
simple. Christianity has been the downfall of many nations and the cause of many wars. Christians have killed more than Muslims.
Nonsense…this is anti-Christian bigotry, pure and simple.
Hatred of God is at the heart of the homosexual pseudo-marriage movement.
Christianity was the foundation of this one. Our fourfathers were Christian. We have been a Christian nation from the start and is why God’s blessings have been upon us. As a nation we have been decaying and this is another example of it. If we keep voting for emoral things and and not looking to God, he will take his blessing away. People say seperation of church and state. Our fourfathers new that government would someday try to get in the way of the church, which is why they fled to America. The sereration of Church and state is the state shouldn’t have any say in the church not the church with the state. The nation was built by our fourfathers with Christian beliefs.
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly that this great nation was founded — not by religionists — but by Christians . . . on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” — Patrick Henry
“Do not let anyone claim to be a true American who attempts to remove religion from politics.” — George Washingtion, in his Farewell Address
“Those who pay no regard to religion and seriousness in the persons whom they send to the legislature of any state are guilty of the greatest absurdity and will soon pay dear for their folly.”– John Witherspoon, Signer of Declaration of Independence & President of Princeton University.
“May every citizen in the army and in the country have a proper sense of Deity upon his mind and an impression of the declaration recorded in the Bible, ‘Him that honoreth Me, I will honor, but he that despiseth Me shall be lightly esteemed'” (I Samuel 2:20). — Samuel Adams, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
“We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and true religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” — John Adams, our second president, in an address to military leaders.
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the Gift of God. That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.” — Thomas Jefferson
“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” — James Madison
“[T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence.” — Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary.”I trust that the God of Isaac and of Jacob will protect you, and give you health in my absence. In Him alone we ought to trust; He alone can preserve and guide us through this troublesome world, and I am sure He will hear your Prayers. We are told that the prayers of the righteous prevaileth much, and I add mine for your health and preservation until we meet again.”– Andrew Jackson, in an undated letter to his wife, Rachel
“The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.” The US Congress 1782
Well, for one, your George Washington quote is fake. He never said that in his farewell address.
Also, the Treaty of Tripoli says you are wrong:
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”
George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were both “deist”. Though they believed in a “creator”, they did not follow the Christian dogma. Pres. Washington went to church rarely and only to keep Martha happy.
Thomas Jefferson believed Jesus was a good philosopher but denied his “divinity”. I suggest you do a little research on the “Jefferson Bible”.
Also, Pres. John Adams stated in the “Treaty of Tripoli”: “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…”
And so says the person who assumes the name of the homosexual cannibal in “Moby Dick”.
I believe a bigger threat to “the integrity of the institution of marriage” is the no-fault divorce, consider approximately 50% of “traditional marriages” end in divorce.
“Can’t gays and lesbians have weddings already?” – Not legally recognized weddings.
“How do gays and lesbians have weddings?” – False. Same sex marriage is not legal in Maine.
“Don’t same sex couples get a marriage license in Maine already?” – False. Once again, same sex marriage is not legal in Maine. In 2004, Maine started domestic partnerships. However, domestic partnerships do NOT offer the same rights as marriage.
” Is Domestic Partnership the same thing as marriage?” – No. This is flat out incorrect. There are about 1100 different rights and benefits that are afforded to marriage that are NOT afforded to civil unions or domestic partnerships.
Wherever you got your information was flat out lying.
Sorry, your spin does not ring true.
Tell me which of these “1100 different rights and benefits” are controlled by the State? Which ones will this referendum allow the State to change? Take your time.
Q. Don’t same sex couples get a marriage license in Maine already?
A. Yes. Only the state can issue a license and same
sex couples have had to register with the state Office of Vital Records
to have wedding ceremonies to join together in legal matrimony just
like everyone else and have since 2004. When couples register with the state they receive two certified copies and those certificates are licenses with the state.
1. Right to spousal priviledge. In a state court, a married couple’s conversations are priviledged and a spouse cannot be compelled to testify. A domestic partner does not have that same right and can be compelled to testify.
2. Married couples are assumed to be supportive of each other financially. The law provides protection to a married spouse. Maine law does not provide the same protection to domestic partnerships.
There’s two right there.
1)This referendum will not directly affect how spousal privilege is defined in Maine.
2) is just vague, also will not be directly changed by this referendum.
If same sex couples are married, it will actually affect spousal priviledge at the state level, despite you not wanting to believe that.
Is it your assertion that passage of this referendum will automatically , with no other action, change how Spousal privilege is applied in Maine?
Yes. Marriage provides for spousal priviledge. If same sex couples are legally married in Maine, then they would be covered under spousal priviledge laws. I didn’t realize that this was such a difficult concept.
My point is that this will not be automatic, it will be tried, then ruled on, then appealed, then decided on again.
This is like all the talking points offered on this issue. This referendum will not automatically decide these issues. It would be just as easy to amend the Domestic partnership law(P.L. 2003, c. 672,) to cover any issue that were overlooked or unforeseen.
This whole agenda is built on dishonesty.
Let me put this in even simpler terms, since you refuse to undertand the situation.
IF married THEN covered by spousal priviledge. If anyone tries to challenge this in court, it will be dismissed because this is something the law is clear on. This is as simple as I can explain it. If you can’t understand, then that is your fault, not mine.
Yes, my place of employment will have to allow me to put her on my insurance. Now we are both paying separately. Also, I will be able to put her on my deed without making her pay a fine.
If my partner becomes ill I cannot take the time off to care for her.
OMG you are lieing. How horrible.
Lying seems to be the only way the No on 1 crowd can get anywhere!!! Yet they’re alll about the bible!!
The Maine “Equal Rights Center” lies.
So do you.
If you have to resort to lies, you have no real argument for your side.
The vote may go your way, but you will lose…
I guess “Thou shalt not lie” has a previously unknown second part “unless it’s to hurt them queers.”
I’m not a religious person , so…
Point out the “Lie(s)” be specific and forget opinions, take your time.
I did in another post. Just because you don’t like my response, doesn’t mean I didn’t give one.
“Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination.”
Haha, don’t care.
Q. Don’t same sex couples get a marriage license in Maine already?
A. Yes. Only the state can issue a license and same sex couples have had to register with the state Office of Vital Records to have wedding ceremonies to join together in legal matrimony just like
everyone else and have since 2004. When couples register with the
state they receive two certified copies and those certificates are
licenses with the state.Point out the lie(s)
Instead of copying and pasting Bennett’s website, how about you explain how this actually works, because no one I know has heard of such an option.
That is because if they(you) had heard of it, this whole referendum would be tanked. Who do you think would rather you not know about this?
This is true and accurate,has been since 2004.
I just went and found then downloaded the forms, took me less tan 5 minutes.
Domestic partnerships are not the same as marriage.
I’m sure you have spent zero time comparing the laws… you should.
Then you’d see that you and the “organization” you’re relying on for information are lying.
Do your own homework, or continue to lie. It’s up to you.
Blatent lie but that is the only way you can win isnt it?
LOL “are side by side in the same sentence of the same state statute which means they are the same thing”
Riiiiiiiiiight. Just like how on my grocery list, magically milk and eggs become the same thing.
Side by side in a State statute outlining and defining rights ,privileges and requirements under law.
So how did this even get on the ballot? If people were able to marry in equal capacity, straight or gay, our current Secretary of State *certainly* would have tried to kill it on that basis.
It’s about the word, and the ability to join a class action suit against the Fed. Most of these rights and privileges you keep hearing the supporters of this referendum cry about have nothing to do with State Law, the Fed determine most of these.This referendum will do nothing to change how Federal law is applied. This is part of an effort to force the Fed. to change it’s definition of marriage.
You also hear the noise about “this will not affect the rights of Churches , clergy, ect ect. The attempt to change federal law on this matter will also affect these issues, that is their goal, or a part of it.
Do you realize it’s possible that it has to do with both federal and state rights?
Prove how it will impact Churches and clergy. Tell us.
I have no intention of joining any lawsuit. I only intend to live happily ever after with the person i love who is a consenting adult.
Go crawl back into your closet and stop spreading your lies.
These are all lies. No Maine does not issue licenses to same sex couples and domestic partnership holds little or no benefits. God abors liars. I prayed for you .
If homosexuality is normal, why do homosexuals have 40 times the rate of AIDS of the general population?
If homosexuality is normal why are 63% of serial killers homosexuals?
Not every homosexual is a serial killer, but most serial killers are homosexuals.
What about the WINEVILLE CHICKEN COOP MURDERS where the homosexual killer chopped up three or four boys at a time with an ax?
Did a heterosexual ever do something like that?
Stop the homosexual takeover.
The relation between man and woman is the most fundamental relation in the law and in society.
Homosexual pseudo-marriage is a dagger aimed at the heart of our society.
I’d like to remind everyone that SonOfBangor is most likely a troll. He is just trying to get a response from people. Do NOT respond. Just ignore him. He will get bored and try trolling another website.
I am stating God’s truth, and you are hiding it, and you know why.
“All that do evil love the darkness.”
DO YOU DARE FLAG THIS STORY FROM THE BANGOR DAILY NEWS?
DO YOU DARE CENSOR THE TRUTH EVEN WHEN IT APPEARS IN THIS NEWSPAPER?
http://thestir.cafemom.com/guide/fall_family_fun_guide?prism_id=145226&utm_medium=sem2&utm_campaign=prism&utm_source=internal&utm_content=1652
This was in 1998 before gay marriage was legal anywhere. it has nothing to do with homosexuality and every thing to do with power and control. If he had been raped by a female you would not have blamed heterosexuals? You are a sad man. i prayed for you.
Don’t respond to SonofBangor. He’s a troll just looking for attention and reactions. If you ignore him, he will get bored and go away.
So gay pseudo-marriage will prevent this sort of crime, do you think?
Hope you have a great day!!!
See Clint Eastwood’s movie “The Changeling” and you will never support “gay” pseudo-marriage again.
Clint Eastwood supports Gay Marriage.
So if gays can marry ALL HETEROSEXUALS will stop procreating? I assume you will be the first?
Most of the money coming on the anti side is coming from out of state. This says volumes. What amazes me is the money from org who are supposed to be feeding the poor. The poor are still hungry.
I agree. MPBN said $800,000 from NOM and $100,000 from Knights of Columbus.
Looking at the reports here (http://www.mainecampaignfinance.com/Public/entity_financial_transactions.asp?TYPE=PAC&ID=6238) we see:
NOM (NJ) – $1,050,000
KoC (CT) – $100,000
Focus on the Family (CO) – $50,000.
PMM – 434 entries for donors totaling $1.378 million
However, 5551 entries for donations to MUM totalling $4.314 million (http://www.mainecampaignfinance.com/Public/entity_summary.asp?TYPE=PAC&ID=6123&LIMIT=&YEAR=2012). There are so many donors that I can’t easily find the large ones other than Freedom to Marry (NY) ($425,000) and Donald Sussman and the Gill Action Fund ($100,000 each).
My points are: A) opponents have complained about the money from away to support SSM even though $1.2 of $1.38 million on their side comes from the same away. And 2) if there is such wide spread opposition to SSM, why are there so few donations from Mainers who oppose it?
You can request the data from the agency and find out 90% of money against SSM comes from out of state, versus a 50/50 split for money supporting SSM.
That should tell you either a)those that oppose it were too lazy to ask those from Maine or b)those from Maine were unwilling to support their side on the issue. Either way why would Mainers want to support the No on 1 side when they are funded so heavily from out of state donors.
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If any homosexual or Lesbian wants to get married, he or she can be married by 5 o’clock tonight.
They don’t want to, because they HATE marriage.
They want to substitute the OPPOSITE of marriage for marriage, then silence anyone who disagrees.
Please tell me where. I will go and get my state issued marriage license tonight . I cant though can I. Even if I could i could not be married by 5 tonight because real licenses take 3 days. I called the town. They will not issue me a license as a SS couple. Your lies are horrific sir.
It took me less than 5 min. to find the paper needed to have a Domestic Partnership registered by the State. They said it would take a few days to have the Licenses mail out, two copies. Not by 5pm I’m afraid.
Domestic partnership =/= marriage
So it’s not about the protections and or rights/privileges, it about the word ? This has been my contention all along, some unhealthy need for external validation thought to be gained by changing the definition of this word.
No, how many times do we need to go over this? They are not equal in name and they are not equal in rights.
It’s the name thing that is bothering you, right? Otherwise we would take care of the other issue with a quick fix to the Domestic Partnership law passed in 03-04.
This is when you stop lying and admit that this referendum will do nothing to change all the rights the yes side keeps talking about, the ones controlled by the Fed.
I am bothered by people trying to institute separate but equal decades after it was ruled unconstitutional. Apparently you don’t have a very good memory of history, but Brown v. Board of Education means that your “solution” is illegal. Don’t like it? Tough. Overturn Brown, then maybe you would have a leg to stand on. Until then, marriage equality is the best solution to ensure all the rights that are granted by the state are provided to same sex couples. Then, when DOMA is finally struck down, and judging by how many courts have ruled it unconstitutional that’s going to happen pretty soon, there won’t need to be any other referendum for marriage.
Yes, because no one is sick of folks comparing the life style they chose to Slavery and segregation.
Hmmm, yes, one group is being denied marriage because of who they want to marry, while the other group is being denied marriage because of who they want to marry. Yep, no similarities at all…. (sarcasm)
Say goodbye to the words “husband” and “wife” in the law.
This is not about marriage. This is about the destruction of marriage.
To Sonof Bangor:
“Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination.”
Too bad I don’t care…
3rd time a charm? I see that some of you have been successful at censoring free speech when it doesnt suit your agenda. I will post it, again, and you will have it “Flagged for review” again.
It seems that some of you wuld censor any speech not deemed appropriate by the gay community, seems any speech not in line with the Gay communities agenda will be censored. Kind of makes all that talk to the contrary , all the assurances , meaningless.No?
Q. Can’t gays and lesbians have weddings already?
A. Yes. Gays and lesbians can have weddings and have been able to
register with the state to join together in legal matrimony with all the
same rights and benefits as everyone else under Maine state law since
2004.
Q. How do gays and lesbians have weddings?
A. The same way heterosexual couples do. They fill out the
registration form and submit a $50 processing fee to the Maine Office of
Vital Records and then plan their wedding.
Q. Don’t same sex couples get a marriage license in Maine already?
A. Yes. Only the state can issue a license and same
sex couples have had to register with the state Office of Vital Records
to have wedding ceremonies to join together in legal matrimony just
like everyone else and have since 2004. When couples register with the state they receive two certified copies and those certificates are licenses with the state.—
Maine Equal Rights Center voting guide.
Already told you why your post is incorrect, so now, instead of just being misinformed, you are blatantly lying. Domestic parnterships do not provide spousal priviledge, something marriage does in fact provide. I’ve told you this multiple times, yet you continue to lie.
No, the lie is telling people that this referendum will change any of that.
Except, you know, it will. But don’t let reality get in the way of lying about same sex marriage…
You know what I am saying is true. It is you, my friend, that is lying.
Just because you don’t understand basic legal concepts doesn’t mean that I’m lying.
Spousal privilege would not be offered to same sex couple until it is tested and ruled upon by the courts. It would be much easier, and quick er just to add this and other concerns to our existing Domestic Partnership laws.
Most ,if not all, of the other rights and privileges we keep hearing about are Federal and this referendum would do nothing to change them .
P.S regardless, your opinion does not give you the right to censor my post. Such actions are exactly why some of find your assurances , about not using this as an excuse to attack churches and individuals who dare voicing opinions you dislike, hollow at best.
No, it would, because it is included in marriage. If they are legally married, then they legally have spousal priviledge at the state level.
“your opinion does not give you the right to censor my post” – I didn’t. I want everyone to see how the anti-equality side has resorted to lies in a desperate attempt to win.