Angus King, the independent senator-elect from Maine, hasn’t decided with which party he plans to caucus next year, and doesn’t rule out joining with Republicans despite the party’s decision to spend millions of dollars in attack ads against him.
King, a popular former two-term governor who served as an independent from 1995 to 2003, will succeed Sen. Olympia Snowe (R) next year after winning election Tuesday night with 53 percent of the vote. Snowe’s surprise decision to retire instead of run for re-election spoiled the GOP’s hopes of regaining the Senate majority, especially once King jumped into the race and cleared the field of any significant opposition.
As for the possibility of joining with Republicans, King said in an interview Thursday, “I’m not ruling it out, I’m not ruling it in. I’m not ruling it out with the Democrats one way or the other, either.”
“I hope to be able to make a decision next week and move on,” he added. “There’s no reason to drag this out. I’m not being coy, I’m not trying to draw attention to myself, I just want to do something that’s true to what I committed to my constituents up here and that is to be a good senator on their behalf.”
King’s decision to caucus with Republicans would serve as an embarrassment for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Democrats, who declined to support members of their own party in Maine’s Senate race on the assumption that King would join them next year. If King joins with Democrats, the party would enjoy a 55-seat majority, just five votes short of the 60 votes needed to break filibusters.
King said he plans to meet with party leaders next week on the sidelines of new member orientation. His decision will be based on two criteria: “One that will allow me maximum of independence and one that will maximize my effectiveness.”
“I’ve had people urge me and not really talk to either side and not take a committee assignment and plant the flag in the middle of the aisle,” King said. “But I’m not inclined to do that because it makes what I’m doing a stunt. And it’s not a stunt; I have a commitment to the people of Maine to get things done on behalf of the state.”
He declined to say which committees he hopes to join, saying he would only disclose his preferences during those private meetings next week.
In a sign of how important his decision could be in advancing the Obama administration’s priorities in the next four years, King said he’s already heard from President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, who both offered congratulations, but didn’t ask about his decision.
“It was all about working together for the country, which is a pretty good idea, I think,” he said.
A senior administration official said the White House wouldn’t confirm which incoming lawmakers Obama has contacted but said he spoke with several Thursday.
King said he also heard from Reid, who encouraged him to speak with Joe Lieberman (Conn.) and Bernie Sanders (Vt.), two independent senators who have caucused with Democrats: “That’s as far as he went in an argument or in making the case, just to say that ‘We’ve worked with two other independent senators.’”
An aide to Reid confirmed that the leader had spoken with King and the senator-elect’s characterization of the call.
Among Republicans, he said he’s heard from Snowe and Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, as well as Sens. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn. Notably absent from his list of calls is Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., whose aides didn’t return requests for comment.
Several observers — none of whom are directly familiar with King’s thinking — have surmised that King is unlikely to join with Republicans because the party and several conservative super PACS, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, spent millions of dollars in attack ads in hopes of bolstering GOP candidate Charlie Summers.
But King said those ads won’t factor into his ultimate decision.
“That’s history. And I didn’t like it, and I didn’t think it was productive and I didn’t think it was true or fair, but one thing I’ve learned in politics is that yesterday’s enemy can be tomorrow’s ally depending on the circumstances,” he said. “Obviously I’m human and I can’t ignore what went on, but it’s not a deciding factor.”
King and other new members of the House and Senate will arrive in Washington next week amid a new eagerness for both sides to work together. House Republicans are sounding a more conciliatory tone, pledging compromise and cooperation in the face of GOP losses, and McConnell has signaled he’s willing to work with Obama if the president begins shifting toward the political middle. King said that the new tone bodes well for progress.
“The fact that the president is now in his final term — there’s no more motivation to make him look bad or have him cooperate or not have him have successes, I think that removes a motivation to partisanship,” he said. “There’s no reason to try to frustrate or deny him what might otherwise appear to be a legislative success, because he can’t run again anyway.”
He recalled meeting a voter recently who told him, “All my life, I’ve wanted a chance to vote for none of the above, and you’re it.”
“I think that really sort of sums it up,” King said. “I think the political system, the parties need to realize that people are going to be looking for ways to vote for none of the above unless they begin to solve these problems in a cooperative fashion.”

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  1. What a highly unprofessional headline. Based on the headline, I thought this was going to be a commentary or a column. Instead, it’s a straight news story. The editor who slapped this headline on or let it go through should be severely reprimanded, as it calls into question not only the editor’s impartiality (of which there doesn’t seem to be one), but the impartiality of the Bangor Daily as a whole.

    1. The headline at the original Washington Post story is:

      Angus King, still undecided, doesnt rule out joining GOP

  2. “He declined to say which committees he hopes to join, saying he would
    only disclose his preferences during those private meetings next week.”

    And yet he told WCSH he is interested in the Finance Committee, the Armed Services Committee, the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, and the Commerce Committee – http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/221323/68/Senator-Elect-Angus-King-I-believe-my-vote-is-going-to-be-important

    I’d say the Senator-Elect is in fact being coy about his plans.

      1. Gopher – 

        I respect your posts, and mostly agree with your thoughts, but;

        I much prefer people who are running for public office to state their views clearly. And call me old fashioned, but yes, I want to know what the person who gets my vote stands for.

        King? I have no idea what he STANDS FOR.

        Why?Because he won’t tell us!

        I’m too old to deal with “coy” politicians.Either step up to the plate, with the courage of your convictions, willingly and confidently telling the electorate who you are and exactly what you represent, or just go home.

        Just an opinion of an old liberal who clings to his time – worn beliefs like guns and religion.

      2.  What exactly is he entitled to in this instance?  Playing games?  That will fit in perfectly in DC.

        What possible reason could he have to disclose his preferences to one and not the other?  It’s not like Google wouldn’t provide the details to show that he is just another smarmy opportunist.

  3. Here’s the deal: Angus is now a freshman senator; the Democrats control the Senate and, along with it, committee assignments. If Angus really hopes to be effective in any way in Washington, then he will need to align himself with the Democratic party. Does that mean he has to go along with every idea they propose? Absolutely not. Does it mean he has to reject each and every idea put forth by the Republicans? Absolutely not. Angus simply needs to, and will, make the decision that puts him in position to have the most impact in Washington. Why the rush? He’ll announce his decision when they time is right for him, not for everyone else. Grow up already.

    1. The Dems only control committee assignments for Democratic Party seats on each committee – the GOP controls assignments for their designated seats. Committee seats are determined by the proportional representation of each party in the Senate as a whole – with Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Dems control 54 seats, and thus will have 54% of the seats on each committee; the GOP will control 45% of the seats on each committee.

      Most importantly, the chair of each committee will be a Democrat.

      1. Meaning Angus gets last pick of what’s left after both parties cherry pick committees and assignments. Even worse the racial divide, essential to Obama’s win in Swing States, will further marginalize King:

        Democrats in Congress See White Men as Minority With Fewer Seats

        Timothy R. Homan, ©2012 Bloomberg News Thursday, November 8, 2012

        Nov. 8 (Bloomberg) — Meet Donna Edwards of Maryland, a veteran congresswoman who represents the new face of Democrats in the U.S. House.

        Come January, women and minorities for the first time in U.S. history will hold a majority of the party’s House seats, while Republicans will continue to be overwhelmingly white and male. The chamber, already politically polarized, more than ever is going to be demographically polarized, too.”

        Thanks for helping get Angus get elected so we can get leftovers and crumbs!

        1. You don’t get it do you?   King’s position is strengthened,  not weakened by his Independent status. Both party’s will seek his imput and votes.  I’m sure that King will be assigned to a committee he feels that he can have the most impact.     Remember the article?  the democrats are 5 votes short of breaking a filibuster with his joining their caucus,   don’t you think that they will be willing to concede something to him?,   knowing that the minority will be looking at him as a potential vote for them?      Leftovers and crumbs is a sophomoric analysis and your unmovable partisan position is exactly why Olympia Snowe decided to call it quits, if it weren’t for that unshakable assertion of never spite the republican leadership……the republicans would have gotten their seat.

          1. “Both party’s will seek his imput and votes. ”

            This comment displays a complete lack of understanding of the workings of American government.

          2. Both party’s were certainly courting Olympia Snowe now weren’t they? What makes you think that both party’s won’t think that King is just as moderate? How do you know that he WONT be just as moderate? Since King hasn’t yet served one day in the US Senate, I”m sure that you have the ultimate congressional wisdom. Your comment reflects and personifies the exact reason why Olympia Snowe left. It reflects that everything in the Senate must be done on a partisan basis…….and that’s simply not true, and is what it the matter with the legislative branch of state and federal governments. You humor me.

          3. You’re delusional, at best; very ignorant about the politics of making committee assignments and giving Angus preferential assignments of HIS choosing.

            First, he’s unique in that he has formed three  third ‘parties’, one nation wide which eroded support for Democrats. He and Cutler are aligned in this, and there is a substantial organization composed of disaffiliated Democrats. He’s poison to the Dem. ticket and future of the party.

            Second, he’s got a track record of arrogant stands on key issues…probably the worst was MTBN, the toxic gas additive. That means more discord and more divisiveness, in Committee.

            Third, the Senate is def. the old boys’ club…and the longer you’ve been a member the more power you have, esp. if you are in the Committee hierarchy because then you get assigned technical staff and other privileges. Angus will have to stand in line just to borrow a stapler; let alone get out mailings….his come last. 

            Fourth, he’ll pick his own people to staff the office and ditch Snowe’s staff. He won’t have a party to provide staff to pick from and will wind up with newbies like Alan Caron. 

            Fifth, the eyes of world will watch his every move. The Hill is covered with lobbyists allied with every possible cause and the last thing a lobbyist wants to do is deal with someone with no more than a vote, and an unknown ‘independent’ one at that. 

            Sixth, the other independents are socialistic to some degree, with Bernie Sanders on the far left and several from the Farm Labor Party. These are King’s peers and they don’t consort with Republicans as far as I know.

          4. But here in Maine, we sent him there to represent us which apparently will be difficult if not impossible to do.  Son of a gun Angus, you never told your voters that you will be totally ineffective because of the Senate hierarchy.  But hey, you’re there, may as well get a little “wind” legislature looked at for your business partners.

          5. I believe you’re right. I might be wrong, but unless he’s Tuesday was an epiphany of sorts, I can’t see Mitch McConnell looking at Angus King with anything other than disdain. The democrats made room for Bernie; they’ll make room for Mr. King. He’s a corporatist for sure, but so are many of that party’s Senate contingent.

          6. I could be wrong, Angus is a pretty charming guy…but he’s not in Maine any more, he’s not the chief executive, he’s an outsider with no Hill experience.  So they’ll shake his hand, smooze with him but when the day is done, they’ll deal with their own Party first and only if absolutely necessary him. 

            We’ll see how he makes out, now if he had cred as a Republican he might get support for Committee membership……then there is the $10,000 Mary gave to Obama2012…..what does that buy in the Senate these days??

          7. I don’t think that the “eyes of the world” will be on Angus King,  I certainly don’t think that you could qualify King as a “socialist”….(which is ridiculous)  .

             I agree with you that tenure provides status,  however,  it does not guarantee it,  asked Olympia.    Of course he is going to pick his own people to staff his offices……..talk about delusional…..do you honestly think that he would do something differently?   Wouldn’t you pick your own people?  Every Senator picks his own people, just because he is an independent doesn’t make any difference at all and his people don’t necessarily need to belong to any political party, or can be from which ever one or both that he chooses.
             What makes you think that he has to have a partisan pool of staff employees to choose from,  that comment was somewhat ridiculous as well.   Being “unique”   brings attention,  it certainly brought yours out.   He’s “poison” to the democrats but every body is calling him one? I doubt that the Angus King’s of the world are going to harm the democrats much,  what really hurts a party, and history has shown,  are sects, Teddy Roosevelt for example and the Bull Moose, Ross Perot, Jessie Jackson….and others.   The Tea Party did not help the Republicans,  it hurt them in Maine and the nation,  yet they regard themselves as republicans.

            If you knew anything at all about political science, then you would know that members of congress have one goal:   to get reelected.  A successful member will do what is necessary to do just that, which includes working with the other party,  and independents. You say that lobbyist won’t be interested in an independent’s vote; I’m sure that both party’s and lobbyist would be and will be very very interested on how he votes if it involves a filibuster.

              And I’ll remind you,  Angus King has not served one day in the US Senate,  and you think you have him and his situation all figured out.

          8. party’s is not the plural of party (just saying) On your point, it is a good idea for King to caucus with the majority if he wants to actually get something done with his input. He ticked off a number of GOPs in his campaign so maybe that is a sign. We just have to wait and see. However, I am not feeling comfy here. Are you?

          9. I’m more comfortable with a senator who in order to get any of his agenda through, must do so on his own and with both parties, and not necessarily depend on leadership and caucus numbers. If Charlie Summers were to have been elected, he would be required to conform to a minority leaderships wants, AND overcome a majorities numbers. Of the two, which do you feel has the better chance of successfully addressing their campaign promises and agenda?

        2. There’s nothing stopping either party from offering one (or more) of their committee  seats to King. While it’s unlikely, he could take a GOP seat on one committee and a Dem seat on another.

    2.  Ha ha ha. Angus isn’t even in office yet and he’s already screwing over all the Dems who voted him in. Toooooooooo funny.

    1. Absolutely….Anyone who has ever worked for Gus knows he is just an arrogant, self centered moderate Republican.

      1. Yes, you are correct, that’s just what Angus is.

        And Democrats deserted their party and elected this corporate sympathizer.

        I am a liberal Dem of 45 years, and my party has hit a new low by electing this phony. 

        1. yep… I did NOT vote for the guy. Here we go again with our dumb way of voting in Maine… where a third party (or no party) person can come in and muck things up. Dems are known for a certain lack of support for their own candidates (Dill in this case) and so we get Gus and LeCrazy. I worry that this will happen again with Cutler going for GOV again in midterms. We need a good candidate, not a 39% “mandate” (NOT)

          1. Carol – I have always thought that we got LePage, not because Dems voted for Mitchell, but because they left their Party to vote for Cutler.

            The fault lies with the individual members of our party. If people don’t agree with Democratic Party policies, then leave the Party and be some mushy flip flopping independent. 

            If you are a Democrat, then vote like one!

            Thanks for your reply. Good weekend…..

    1. With out a doubt.  The Republicans just rightfully re-commited to no tax increases.  That will keep the liberal GUS away.

      1. you are going to be a very very busy servent of god if you correct everyones grammar and spelling on the BDN message boards.

      2. Actually, you’re wrong. It’s lower case independent. Independent isn’t a political party — that’s why there can be multiple independents on the ballot at once. In some states, however, there is an Independent party, but not Maine.

        1. Maybe it was capitalized because it was the first word in the sentence.
          I can’t spell worth a darn and my grammar isn’t always good, but I do remember that rule.

  4. Great headline! We wonder why our country is so deivded with basic reporting of a news story includes  a title that is intended to devide us more. Great job BDN! At least Angus appears to be reviewing ALL of his options before making a formal decision.

  5. Personally there is not a doubt in my mind that he will caucus with the democrats.. To me its a given.

    1. Caucusing with the Democrats, and supporting and/or VOTING with the Dems are two entirely different things.

      Joe Lieberman caucused with the Democrats, then went out and campaigned for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

      Angus is as disingenuous as they come, and will play both sides against the middle whenever he can.

      I am a liberal democrat and I could not vote for King any more than I could vote for Romney.

      Both are the same old corporate mush.

  6. As a citizen I have to say I don’t like this caucus business at all..it hardens party lines and ideologically based  agendas and seems to lead to compromises which are just bad for everyone and way too much pork barrel legislation where everyone’s favorite project back home gets tacked on as payment for support.

    To have the  new vision for America expressed in our election results on Tuesday, we need to seriously rethink and rebuild how Congress works.

    Maybe Committee assignments should be by lottery..that would shake things up!!!

    1. Good comments and agree…..the very issue of aligning oneself with one party or the other is divisive in theory and obviously in practice….many a President and elected from both sides make the “promise” that they will be the one to bridge the partisan gridlock in government and bring compromise and bi-partisan workings to our gov’t……the only hope for America is electing people without a predisposed agenda and even with that said, sending someone into a governing system that totally operates on party division is already starting off on the wrong premise….assigning committee delegates based on party affiliation does nothing for the people, just adds to the foundational problems…..

        1. Sorry, it is just a bong dream that the two parties will ever come together. The people of this country have become too divided.
          The division comes down to: who makes the best decisions for you? You or the government.

          1.  LarryinCamden ( What does that refer to ” bong dream”??? not part of my vocabulary..or experience))

            No I am not looking for one big party..there can be no unity without diversity.

            .I think we have outgrown the two party system..that we have become too beautifully diverse and pluralistic to express ourselves as citizens through just two parties.  More than that, I think right now to get where we need to go, we have to totally ignore party and party ideology and stay focused only on the realities ahead of us..work together one to one neighbor to neighbor to address ourselves to that.

            We don’t have to wait for a complete overhaul of our caucus and two party system. .”we the people” can just ignore party ideology and boundaries and platforms and speak neighbor to neighbor on issues that affect our lives, our communities, our future

            ..and the we might see also that a phrase like “who makes the best decisions for you, you or the government” has no unity at its fundamental base..that people who wave that banner mean very different things by it..isn’t that what the dissolution of the Republican party basically told us?  The party was using these catch phrases to unite under “party” but people began to see very very clearly that there was a huge difference between what “we the people” meant by that and what party leaders and the Koch’s meant by that.

            For right now we don’t need party leaders or party identity and can’t use what is there for us fruitfully.  We have only one another..neighbor to neighbor earnestly looking for answers to some very very very serious obstacles in our path to recovery and sustainability and maybe one day “thriveability”. 

            We can hold our elected officials to the fire on what we find in our common wisdom..whether they still identify themselves under meaningless labels like “Democrat” and “Republican” or not.

          2. The government is composed of Americans and we elect it’s leaders. While there is plenty of blame to go around in DC, it’s time we the people start taking some accountability here Larry.

          3. Which accountability do I have. I have voted on the wromg side of almost every thing in the last 4 elections. the fault lies with those that voted against me.
            Those that voted against me will never take responsibility for what is wrong, but they are wholy responsible.

          4.  I have voted on the wromg side of almost every thing in the last 4 elections. the fault lies with those that voted against me.
            Larry!

            Get a Clue!Maybe, Government isn’t the problem!Maybe , You are!

          5. You point the finger at them, they’ll point it at you. And round and round we go. Some one has to be the big boy or big girl.

            Mutual concessions of what Democrats and Republicans have done wrong needs to be where we start, since both parties have more than the fair share of faults and mistakes.

            Blind partisans need to go the way of the dodo. A new era of independent minded voters, it can happen…I can dream can’t I? :D

        2. Hello….I haven’t the slightest on how to combat the huge indifference and division created in government or society as seen today and have little hope that it can be easily changed…..the Federal Gov’t has obviously grown to monstrous proportions to where we reluctantly continue to send our tax dollars but have little to no say in regards to where and when they are spent…..just the sheer size of gov’t itself is a design destined for disaster….the founders of our country, IMHO, never intended for our daily lives to be under such control of a gov’t entity…..I have much more of a voice in my community’s business than I do even on a state level, and as far as influencing the Feds business and spending, big labor and giant lobby is what turns heads and decisions in Washington….one point made in the recent campaign, was to return much of the Feds oversight and control back to individual state government which does make sense as far lessening government and having more local control of things….it’s up to the people to show a disdain for how big government is and how the average taxpayer has little to no say in how and where tax dollars are spent….if this ole’ world doesn’t self destruct, our future generations will continue to suffer under big government…..Crazy…..

          1. I agree we have to rethink all of it..top down bottom up..all of it.

            Many years ago we recognized that local communities should make their own decisions on housing & community development and created the Community Development Block Grant program.

            I am not sure why we haven’t done the same with social services. We would have better programs at lower cost more tailored to local needs…and to local opportunities.

            But at the same time there has to be a clear and inescapable mandate to serve those in our community who are homeless, hungry, in extreme poverty, alone, suffering cognitive and mental disabiity. We can’t opt not to serve them and hope to drive them out of our communities. I think that’s why so many of these programs are federal and not local.

      1. Felt..don’t know anything about Unity 08..I am only advocating that since our two party system is so broken we might do better just visiting these very serious issues one on one..neighbor to neighbor and hold whoever our elected officials are,. whatever paty they represent, to account on that.

          1.  Felt..checked that out..thanks..Unity o8 sounds more like the pre cursor/forerunner of Americans Elect which I did not think was at all the way to go.  Eliot Cutler was on the Board of Americans Elect, as you know.  Although I have many many differences with Eliot Cutler, what he has tried to do with the One Table issues focused decisions under One Maine is more what I am thinking…non-partisan one to one, neighobr to neighbor conversation..  sometimes having a panel of experts to spea ad get the thinking going is good ( which One Maine did) and often especially when we are not used to that a facilitator might help or a good moderator using a facilitated approach.

            My problem with the Americans Elect approach ( which I gather was also the Unity 08 approach though all I know of that is in the wiki ) is that it wasn’t clear that  the consensus being built was real because of semantics, language, phrasing.

            I think think there is no substitute for actual dialog and conversation where we can clarify these things in the moment and be sure we all understand where we are and what we are saying.

            Thanks again for telling me about Unity08..It is a part of our political history that had not previously come to my attention.

    2. It’s odd that the back-to-the-founders’-intentions crowd don’t ever seem to harp away about retiring President Washington’s warning about factions. But no matter: Washington probably knew that was wishful thinking. No parliamentary type of government has ever gone long without factions, that is unless they were one party dictatorships with other parties as window dressing. Birds of a feather will indeed flock and plot and scheme together. To get them  to change their ways will take some sort of citizen initiative on a huge scale, because the parties will be no more in favor of it than they are in making it easier for minor parties to get on the ballot. On that score they would be in total agreement. One thing that might work, I suppose, would be to elect a critical mass of independent legislators, but how monumental a chore would that be?

      1. hpmcg,

        there’s always sortition..service by lottery or direct democracy by electronic votin issue by issue…of course that too failed in ancient Greece in the first democracy..the populace voted to engage a war too far from home ( in the hope of riches) and Greece went down completely..subjugated for a long time after that..

        I guess I believe thatthe more we talk to one another as citizens about civic matters..the more we convey what our collaboration yields to our reps..the better things will go.

    3. Well, we certainly need to do something differently or we end up with the likes of Akin, the rpae dude, on the science committee! We seem to get doofuses on committees wherein they have NO CLUE . Arsonists in the Firehouse…. that is our current position in many cases. 

      1.  Hi Carol,

        I must plead guilty to not ever in 46 years of voting in the country paid any attention to things like caucuses, or parties or how committees are established..so that makes me one of the people responsible for all that is obviously wrong now.. I confess I am partly responsible for whatever is wrong.

        I have only tuned in to all this is the past two years starting at TED Conversations in a year or so of fairly in depth considerations of the fundamentals of governance and the writing and interpretation of our constitution.  Also had many interesting conversations on direct democracy with interesting thinkers like Tom Atlee and many others.  None of that took me anywhere near caucuses and how house  and senate committees are established ..just getting to that..but it was a very worthy and useful journey to go back through these conversations to the fundamentals of governance and democracy.

        That isn’t taught in school..we really dont learn very much in school ( not as a liberal arts major as an undergrad for sure)  about any of this..we don;t have a chance to think it through critically and independently.  There are several national organizations, including one right here in Maine, that are bringing this opportunities for basic discussion on governance to individuals and communities.

        I think as individuals we need to start there..get our grounding and our bearings on the basics.  I think that is key to the change we see needs to happen.

        So this year my homework is to learn how the caucuses work and how to change that; how committee assignments are made and how to improve that so it is not an open portal for power  brokering and influence peddling by industry lobbyists.  People like you & me who care that it all seems so broken have to do this work to change it.

  7. A CNN commentator said no one really expected him to caucus with the republicans, since they spent almost 3 million dollars bashing him during the campaign.

  8. Caucusing with the republicans will make him a one term senator since they have made themselves irrelevant and will be for many years unless they start doing the job we are paying them to do and that means solving the problems that this country has in a serious bipartisan effort. 

  9. Pretty simple Angus in my opinion.  We citizens of Maine put you in office.  If you want to stay in office, you best allign yourself with the Democrats, or your next election may be your last.

    1. At his age it is probably a one term deal anyway..6 years from now he will be in his 70’s…Angus is all about Angus..Always has been…He is there to line his pockets a little more and get a lucrutive show up lobbying job after he leaves…Why the democrats fell for it is beyond me..They blew an opportunity to ride the wave of democrats this cycle…Not smart in the long run IMHO…

    2. You voted for the independent—now you want a democrat instead of someone who does what is best for the citizens of Maine. Go figure.

  10. King might actually have more to gain from the Republicans because they need him more. 

    But lets face it, King is a liberal Democrat and will go with them.

    1. LOL

      If you actually think that King is a liberal, then you have never met a real liberal.

      Take it from an old liberal dinosaur like me. Angus King is a right leaning moderate who supported and voted for GW Bush, still still supports the bush tax cuts, and a host of other conservative policies.

      People that think this phony is liberal just aren’t doing their homework. 

      1. Take it from me, seeing how I supported Jerry Brown, campaigned for Jesse Jackson, supported Bernie Sanders, worked for the Greens, was a union rep, voted for Nader, etc. etc. etc: 
        Angus is a liberal.  Full stop.

        1. Oh please, I can hardly stand statements like yours.

          Will you please consider:

          Angus King:

          supports Bush tax cuts for the rich
          supports the Keystone Pipeline
          supports repealing the ban on assault weapons
          supports Simpson Bowles – which caps medicare

          King has REPEATEDLY vetoed minimum wage increases
          King is against single-payer  health care
          King vetoed family leave laws

          KING VOTED FOR GW BUSH AND SUPPORTED BUSH FISCAL POLICIES

          There are many more.

          How you can refer to this phony as “liberal” defies explanation.

          It is so ludicrous it truly makes me doubt your claims of liberalism.

          You worked for Nader? And you think King is ‘liberal”?

          Impossible.

          Sorry, just my opinion.

  11. I am a liberal Democrat, and I worked as hard as I could trying to convince my fellow DINOs NOT to vote for this jerk. Angus King, who supported and voted for G W Bush, and still supports Bush tax cuts,
    is a right-leaning moderate at best.

    His little game of playing hard to get is the epitome of wishy-washy, lame, cowardly politics.

    If Dems are hoping that Angus King is going to represent their ideology, they will be very disappointed by this middle-of-the-road lightweight. 

    It would serve all those so-called Democrats right if this guy caucused with Republicans, which according to his own words, he is strongly considering.

    1. I did the same..not because I am so in love with the democrat party ( which needs so much  work itself) but because I am so opposed to so much that is King’s way and his policy views. 

      To me he and summers were always just two different plutocrats..one more center the other more extreme.

      In retrospect though I forgive the State Party  for putting all its eggs in the state elections basket..what a pay off and we may have a chance to actually get somewhere here at home now..( after we dump and disentangle the mess made in the last two years of misguided legislation and agency reorganizations and consolidations)

      1. Thank you for your thoughtful response.

        With sincere respect I disagree with your last paragraph.

        I believe we belong to political parties for a REASON. 

        By pooling people with similar political and social ideologies, we are then more able to elect the people who most closely represent our views.

        What good is belonging to a political party, one that espouses a certain ideology, when that party for expedience sake only, deserts their long held self-declared beliefs for a candidate who’s only value is they are supposedly more electable?

        I don’t forgive our state Democratic Party at all. My Party threw our candidate under the bus, because in one seemingly telepathic moment the Party, very early on, decided it’s chances were better with King. The fact that King is not representative of Democratic Party policies mattered not one bit.

        I’m afraid Lindsay that if you are hoping that by electing King that we might finally “get somewhere”, you will be very disappointed.

        King is more of the same old status quo, middle of the road, mushy one per center.

        And that’s just what we will get from him – mush.

        Just my opinion.

        Thank you and have a great weekend.

        1.  Stringah..

          No I think the Democrat Party and all the democrats who voted for King madea huge mistake..I have been vocal about that consistently at all the newspaper blogs..and vocal about my profound distrust of King.

          I agree with your implied point that “Independent” as a label means absolutely nothing..it’s a kitchen sink that implies no shared vision, no shared values, no clear path.  Same with the Green party really..my version of a green tomorrow isn;t at all what that pary is forming policy on or speaking to..they are just offering their “10 basic values” like it is some sort of modern “10 commandments”

          So I  I am saying Singah..that the party choices we have available to us now don’t really reflect the diversity of our populace..our growing and beautiful diversity..we need to get way past the two party system..and in the meantime I am suggesting we should do our thinking, speaking and voting one to one neighbor to neighbor not within the framework of any existing party.

          I did though find great consolation and joy that the Democrat choices to target key state office elections brought such a promising result and I am hopeful not that democrat values or democrats will no rule the roost but that we can work together closer to our very profound common issues and find meaningful solutions together without giving the store away to plutocrats.

          1. Lindsay, thank you for your reply to my posts.

            I see we have different views on our Party. I am an old 60s Democrat, and I guess 45 years of frustration has taken it’s toll.

            I’ve come to believe that “bi-partisanship” and “moderation” brings us things like the Patriot Act and the Iraq War – remember how bi-partisan those events were?

            Here are 3 things (among dozens) that I’d like to see for our country:

            Serious and deep cuts in Pentagon spending
            The minimum wage becoming a living wage
            Expansion of medicare

            NONE of these changes will occur if we continue on a bi-partisan, “moderate” road. 

            Indeed, these are traditional Democrat values that seem to have been abandoned by our Party.

            The victims, I think, of “moderation”.

            I’m glad we are both Democrats, and I know we share a fundamental philosophy. I would like to take the risk of suggesting that a more militant (for lack of a better word) approach would serve our goal better.

            Thanks again.

            Keep fighting the good fight! 

          2.  Stringah..and thanks to you.    Tuesday’s almost miraculous election results give our State and our Nation a fresh start so I am sre our paths will cross again as we beging the work that amazing opportunity lays out before us.

            Thank you for your engagement.

          3.  not to jump in and inflame anybody but i think its an oxymoron to call a re-election a “fresh start” ;)

          4.  Hi Countygal

            At the state and federal level I mean that it very clearly repudiates the tidal wave that swept through in 2010.  That is a critically important fresh start  Now we can actually work on some important issues in an atmosphere that may actually allow progress.

            The tea party movement has been declared null void and without credit or authority from the American people.  Extremism has bee repudiated and declared null void and without authority.

            That is an important fresh satrt after two years of extremist rampage.  I don’t think that will ever happen in America again,,in Maine again.  I think it is truly finished.

            We definitely have a fresh start.

          5. I’m afraid I agree with you.

            I have lived through many “fresh starts”

            only to find the same piece of coal at the end of the rainbow.

            George Harrison had a great quote.

            “It doesn’t matter if you vote Republican or Democrat – it’s the government that gets in.”

            I think liberals and conservatives alike would agree with that.

    2. If you need a chuckle, imagine Angus attending a union meeting at BIW…has he ever? or for Affordable Health Care?  or one of the many left wing groups that will flock to his small door in the Senate. …….his core is the same 5% who listen to and contribute to Maine Public Broadcasting….his best friend on the Hill is BIG BIRD!

  12. “King’s decision to caucus with Republicans”
    Does anyone really believe they would pay him more than the Republicans.  This is all about Payola and those of you who voted for this corrupt jerk deserve exactly what you are getting.  King gets Richer and for taking you all in again he deserves it. 

  13. Angus King sitting with the repubs would be like Bernie Sanders turning conservative from a socialist and sitting with the repubs. Fat chance of it happening.

  14. Prior to being elected as Governor, King was a legislative assistant to Democrat US Senator William Hathaway. King is a closet Democrat using the Independent label to gain any advantage he could in winning an election. He’d sit with the democrats.

  15. I feel you’re shilling for Angus King’s UNITY08 political party:

    Unity08 was an American political reform movement that sought to offer all voters an opportunity to directly engage in politics by ranking the most crucial issues facing the country, discussing them with the candidates and engaging in an online, secure vote to nominate a bipartisan alternative to the Democratic Party and Republican Party presidential tickets for the 2008 U.S. presidential election.[1] Founded in 2006, the group gained attention from various media outlets, with Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter dubbing the group’s efforts a kind of open source politics.[2]

  16. Angus King is pretense in human form.  If you voted for him, you voted for one thing above all else: pretense.
    I myself don’t really like pretense that much, certainly not enough to vote for it.
    Just saying.

  17. If you’re (Angus King)  going to be joining the republicans don’t expect him to be a senator for Maine very long.  All they do is buck the system and look out for the rich.  You have John
    Boehner  as Majority leader and he’s against the average people and only looks for the rich.  He keeps saying if they take tax break away for the rich they won’t be creating  jobs.  What bunch of bull.  They haven’t help at all since they’ve had it.

      1. Not saying it’s the government job creating job. But the government shouldn’t continue giving (Bush tax cuts) the richest people in the US. Yes get the hell out of the way and stop catering to the rich.

          1.  Good luck getting rich in this economy, Keith!
            If you weren’t born into it (and “working hard” every month waiting for your dividend check), you MIGHT win a lottery or something, but other than that, too bad.

    1.  Ah, but he might be a stealth bombardier  coming in and dropping his payload right in their laps. Since none of the RINOs seem able to stare down the extremists in their party maybe King can. He has nothing to lose.

  18. First of all I have to agree with any and all comments about the absurd headline.

    2nd of all after reading through a ton of comments the consensus is that neither party wants him!

    ….Which begs the question, “How the HECK did this guy get elected!??!??”

    1. “How the HECK did this guy get elected!??!??”

      Is that a rhetorical question?

      Because the answer is that the Democratic Party, in a fit of complete cowardliness, deserted their own party candidate and backed Angus.

      And Democratic voters, taking their cue from party “leaders” and showing their own equally misguided cowardliness, followed suit.

      I am a lifelong Democrat, and I’m disgusted that our party abandoned a REAL Democrat and supported this right-leaning, corporate one per center.

  19. That last sentence says it all … the people are/will be looking for a way to vote “none of the above”.

  20. Anyone stupid enough to think King is anything but a far left Democrat is stupid enough to vote for both him and obama!

    1. Leave it to you to lash out on the principles that make America so great — elections for officials for example.

  21. Bee 100% sure that Angles will do what serves his own interests best.

    That is what he’s always done, and you can not teach an old dog new tricks.

  22. The Democratic party did not abandon Cynthia Dill because they thought that King would caucus with the Democrats.  They abandoned her because they didn’t think she could win.  She was a good candidate, but King had this in the bag from the get-go.

  23. He hasn’t made up his mind yet? He probably knew from day one which team he’ll cosy up to. It’s the voters who might be disappointed if they made a bad gamble. They should’ve just voted for the candidate that matched the party they joined.

  24. I really don’t care what his party he chooses, as long as he doe’s what is right for the people of Maine, not just follow party blindly, wev’e had enough of that for the last 6 years!

  25. It’s the two party system that needs to be revised.  In a society with multiple party interests, there should be many views to be embraced.  

    If there are four, five or six “players” that are allowed full legit standing in the political machinery, there will, by nature be less likely an all out majority. Minority interests would be represented at a public/national level.  In that environment, coalitions and partnerships would HAVE to be forged and formed to cope with the majority……hmmm, multiple political interest groups (not just two) working together to represent the majority interests of the PEOPLE!  What a concept!

  26. He fits right into the age demographic for a senator.  An old person with old ideas.  So much for the era of hope and change. It’s now the era of Geritol, Viagara, and Scooters.

  27. Whatever happened to voting an issue rather than a party? Seems that is the right way to go. There are good and bad ideas on both sides of the isle. I have always been a registered Independent for that reason. Politicians should remember the way it is supposed to be not the way it is now for that is why nothing gets done.It is also what I thought the Maine people were voting for him because he says he can work with both sides so it is time to live up to his word and prove his honesty.

  28. Ha ha ha. Angus isn’t even in office yet and he’s already screwing over
    all the Dems who voted for him and the BDN who annoyed us with all the
    pro-Angus pop-ups and endorsements. Tooooooooooooo funny.  

  29. My oh my–people who know remember that Angus King was a Democrat who switched to Independent, because he realized he could not win the primary back when.  Whether or not he goes to the R side for caucus time remains irrelevent, because he will be voting as a liberal, anyway. 
    He will be no different than the outgoing senator who chose to be more liberal than conservative.

  30. If you believe he will join the Republicans I have a bridge for you to buy cheap. Useful stooges, as Stalin said.

  31. “There’s no reason to drag this out. I’m not being coy, I’m not trying to draw attention to myself, I just want to do something that’s true to what I committed to my constituents up here and that is to be a good senator on their behalf.” Angus King
    Well, he is doing exactly what he says he isn’t doing. Wishy-washy is not what Maine wants or needs. Is he waiting for LePage to dangle some kind of carrot that he can cash in on later for marching to the drum of the dumb?

    We don’t need a Joe Lieberman guy here. Caucus with the Dems or wait until your next election and see how fast we boot you out of office. Why the heck didn’t Dill actually campaign?

    1. Carol – I was a Dill volunteer.

      She did campaign, indeed she worked her tail off.

      The problem was that she was deserted by the Democratic Party.

      But she was out there, I promise.

      We all tried really hard, but it’s tough when most all Democrats went for King and your own party supports the other guy……

  32. Why should the D’s or R’s care about which caucus he  joins? 

    He says he will go with whichever party makes him the best offer, but, in light of his declaration that he will be his own man, what’s the point of  the D’s or R’s  giving him something in exchange for his caucus vote with the knowldege that he could not be counted up to support them in matters they consider important?

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