Sun Journal, Lewiston (Nov. 15)

As Republicans try to interpret what happened on Election Day, a dubious explanation is getting a lot of attention.

It holds that Republicans lost because the country has reached an unfortunate tipping point where people who pay no income taxes and/or receive government benefits now outnumber productive taxpayers.

Those people, sometimes called the “moochers” or even “parasites” in conservative circles, voted to protect and enlarge their government handouts by electing Barack Obama.

In Maine, the respected Republican Phil Harriman recently wrote in the BDN that, “America and Maine have fundamentally transformed into a culture where government is the heart and soul of what voters want and need.”

There’s even been a book written on the subject: ” A Nation of Moochers,” which came out in January.

This is a convenient theory for Republicans: We are right, it’s the rest of the country that’s gone rotten. Convenient, yes, but entirely unsupported by the facts.

Political scientists and economists have long marveled at the tendency of both rich and poor citizens to vote against their own economic self-interest. This has happened in election after election as people more often vote their hearts and beliefs rather than their wallets and investments.

You can see it clearly on the state and national level.

Romney got some of his strongest support in three of Maine’s poorest counties, Washington and Somerset, while actually winning in Piscataquis County.

While it seems cruel to say it, these would definitely qualify as moocher counties according to the theory. They have low family incomes, high poverty rates (between 16 and 19 percent) and receive large slices of government transfer payments as a proportion of income (between 29 and 36 percent).

Yet they gave Romney strong support.

It must be said, of course, that a big chunk of transfer payments go to “moochers” like people on federal pensions, military pensions and Social Security, people who might be very surprised to know some people think they are mooching.

If there are two clear-cut “producer” counties in the state, they are York and Cumberland counties.

They have high family incomes, low poverty rates (about 10 percent) and receive the smallest share of government transfer payments (about 14 and 16 percent respectively).

Yet these “producers” supported Obama over Romney 62 percent to 35 percent in York County and 62 to 34 in Cumberland.

If people were voting for their economic self-interest, the results should have been reversed.

On a national scale, Maine would be a “moocher” state. We receive more from the federal government than we pay in federal taxes, and we did favor Obama over Romney.

So, in Maine, maybe Obama did win based on the moocher turnout. But nationally the evidence to the contrary is even more compelling.

The Economist magazine recently rated the states based upon whether they are “black” or “red” on federal revenue.

In other words, by which states pay the most federal taxes compared to what they receive from the federal government.

The top “producer” states in order were: Delaware, Minnesota, New Jersey, Illinois, Connecticut, New York, Ohio and Michigan, all of which went to Obama and all of which paid way more in federal taxes than they received back in federal transfers and spending.

The biggest moocher states: Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Alabama and North Dakota all supported Romney.

It simply doesn’t make economic sense. Why would very poor states vote for the party associated with cutting the government assistance they depend upon so heavily?

Unless, as we said before, other issues were more important to them, like cultural and religious values.

There is little doubt that people in this country are more dependent on government benefits than they were 100 years ago.

There is also no doubt that taking some of those benefits away from people — whether they be old people, poor people, middle-class homeowners or millionaires — will be difficult and painful.

But we have dug ourselves a massive fiscal hole and that’s what is required.

We remain convinced that Americans are willing to sacrifice for the common good IF they believe the burden will be fairly distributed.

True leadership would be Republicans and Democrats developing a gradual austerity plan And convincing the American people it is in their best interest.

Over the next six months we will see whether we have elected courageous leaders or the usual special-interest hacks.

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37 Comments

  1. Yeah, I was hoping I’d get a new Corvette by voting for Obama. All I got was a dead Bin Laden, the Affordable Care Act, and the defeat of the Norquist toadies. Oh well….

  2. Perhaps if the Obama administration had zealously prosecuted the finance clowns and their enablers in government (SEC) who crashed the economy in 2008 the GOP would have been less likely to succeed in their demonization of the poor.

  3. How about the millions of people who go to work everyday for big corporate America and their sweet “public assistance” wages? If these people receive food stamps, LLIHEAP, and MaineCare, are they mooches too? Or are the corporations the ones who are doing the mooching by not paying their “associates” enough to live on without tax payer supported government cheese? I personally do not consider retirees, veterans, or people who are truly disabled as being mooches. I wonder who the conservatives are talking about? Their employees? lol.

    1. Doesn’t matter who they’re talking about, the system is unsustainable
      voting more largess from the public treasury doesn’t fix the fact that the treasury is completely empty
      vote for all the entitlements you want, you will not be receiving any in about 5 years or so

  4. Base self interest isn’t the only driving factor behind how someone votes. What’s wrong with voting principle vs a few extra (or few less) bucks in ones wallet?

    The Dems help the poor more, the Pubs help the rich more, though I really don’t believe the middle class truly wins or loses much either way – at least in a personal finance sense. We’re picking up the slack regardless. So it often does come down to the “other” issues.

    1. Have heard some very low income people say, more than once, that they don’t know much at all about politics and don’t follow it, but they would be voting Republican because of their church telling them to or highly suggesting it ….gay marriage and contraception/reproductive rights.

      1. Right…But not FOREVER! The war on poverty was started in the mid 60’s, a bit before the Reagan/Bush days. I’m not sure of the percentages nor do i care to look them up but just from what I’ve witnessed in my life it’s much worse than it’s ever been.The last 20 or so years. I could careless about what party was in the oval office when programs come and go…we just need em fixed. whatever policies and programs are in place now are not working and has made it worse. People make a living on the system when they could be earning a living … not all but some. Almost everyone in our society can work for themselves in one way or another. The stuff you can do out of your house and online are endless if going out or traveling is a hindrance.

        1. Again you don’t understand talk like that is in part why the GOP lost. Attack the poor and it’s a losing game.
          It’s not the fault of the poor or so called free phones.

          Nothing is truly free.

  5. Do they all understand that it is the BUSH tax cuts that the GOP voter for that created these”moochers”( and the deficit)? Cognitive dissonance?? aka fooling no one but themselves?? They have Grover Norquist to thank for all of it WE liberals have kept telling them trickle down doesn’t work..BUT DID THEY LISTEN?? noooo.

  6. BS. Austerity is NOT what is needed. We have the STINGIEST social safety net in the advanced world… Our defense and “homeland” (police/surveillance) security budgets dwarf the military budgets of all other nations, equaling the combined miltary budgets of several of the most advanced nations.

    This rightwing, 1%, BS meme has infected the nation with a fallacy… Economic growth the answer to our deficit. That and cutting the defense budget, taxing more progressively, cutting off the subsidies, tax giveaways, royalty deferments… WE ARE NOT GREECE and that meme coming from people normally thought of as highly intelligent, Angus King for one, is very discouraging… loose words, loose policy… I’m not at all hopeful for this country.

    1. Facts are funny things. Check yours. We spend much more on the poor than any other country. Much more. And guess what, poverty just increased to it’s highest level in 50 years.

      1. We HAVE more poor people than other industrialized countries! ….and we work more hours, more years of our lives for less in compensation. Further, their common wealth, education, and healthcare etc. that contributes to their standard of living, remains intact while ours is a protected cash cow for shareholders

        We spend three times more of our public money on higher income people than the poor (no, the rich do not use food stamps, but the poor do not use tax credits, airports, etc.). And the corporate welfare state, especially for bankers is exponentially higher. (Look up “quantitative easing”-it’s costing us billions every year, on top of bailouts).

        The poor are subsidizing the rich; NOT the other way around!

        These facts are anything but funny. Soon, the poor will act like the self governing people that they are and wield their civic power, instead of struggling; “letting the market decide”……

    2. LOL…’social safety nets’ are crumbling the world over

      Europe is crumbling and will implode

      emphatically claiming we are not Greece doesn’t change the fact that we are, it just proves you have an irrational mind….not like we needed proof

      1. What is it with you people? I’ll presume you know what a sovereign currency is. If you don’t, read up on it. We are not Greece. Europe is a mess NOT because of its social safety nets, but because of the euro masquarading as a sovereign currency without the support mechanisms a sovereign currency requires… As for the insults… whatever, dude…

          1. Under entirely different circumstances… What is your point? Greece is not suffering from hyperinflation, and neither are we. In fact for a while we were in serious danger of deflation, and our current inflation rate is at historic lows and also, in fact, is contributing to the slow recovery. So, what is your point? Are you just trying to gainsay me? Austerity will HURT our economy. Here is why: http://watsoninstitute.org/news_detail.cfm?id=1388

          2. Not so different.

            (From Wikipedia:) John Maynard Keynes described the situation in The Economic Consequences of the Peace: “The inflationism of the currency systems of Europe has proceeded to extraordinary lengths. The various belligerent Governments, unable, or too timid or too short-sighted to secure from loans or taxes the resources they required, have printed notes for the balance.”

            Sound familiar?

            As far as our ‘low’ inflation rate goes, OK, there’s no inflation, prices for the things people actually buy are just going up across the board.

          3. “unable, or too timid or too short-sighted to secure from loans or taxes the resources they required…” Keynes had it right… and, yes, it does sound familiar…

            Republicans have been unable or too timid to secure loans (otherwise known as borrowing for deficit spending) in order to do more effective stimulus spending, and too stubborn to raise revenues by raising taxes on the wealthy or closing the loopholes that allow them to avoid taxes… Thanks for the quote… proves the point I have been making for the past couple years very nicely.

            Inflation is measured by the price of things… fuel and food are two very volatile prices that affect people, cost of medical care has also been inflationary, but fuel prices react to speculation in the fuel markets by speculators, they react to war in oil producing areas, they react to big storms that damage oil production or transmission pipelines, they react to the oil industry spending more and more in order to find harder to find oil sources and exploit dwindling oil reserves such as by deep water drilling, tar sands production, or shale oil, all very, very expensive to do… Ever heard of Peak Oil? Food prices react to fuel costs, speculation by middlemen, bad crops and weather, diverting food stocks to other purposes like corn for ethanol for fuel… Again, what’s your point? Greece nor the US is in danger of German-style hyperinflation…

  7. Americans work more paid hours than anyone on this planet ( well, barely paid…); their productivity is the envy of the world… Yet the wage base; the portion of our GDP going to wages is at Historic lows! Those low wages have to prop up welfare programs for low-wage workers because we don’t dare tax “job creators”. (No job at all may indeed be better than a sub livable one).

    Corporate culture is one of “mooching”; it takes the labor of our people without paying the full cost to provide it; corporate welfare dwarfs our aid to the poor, unfathomably without the shame or stigma endured by food stamp recipients.

    A worker of today, subsidized by the social safety net has a different view of his/her self than his/her counterpart of an earlier generation who was paid a wage that met a family’s needs.

  8. We have a public policy of “Robin Hood in Reverse”. On balance, the wealth and income of this country is being sent upward from the poor to the rich — no matter how educated (and indebted) and productive the poor become.

  9. Wasn’t it Alexis de Tocqueville sic) who said that the Achilles heel of democracy was when government beneficiaries used the political process to provide themselves more and more benefits, and essentially strip mined the wealth from America.

    I don’t know whether we are there yet, but our accountant threw a major scare into our asset stream with his prediction of ending the Bush ending taxes on cap. gains, and alerting us to tax increases on Social Security income…and then Medicare is reducing income for my partner…..which is to say, that what started out as political theory is really hitting home on both the taxation side and the benefit.

  10. Obama won because he is black. Period. Minorities voted based on race, not issues. Had the Dem been white, Romney would have won in a landslide.

    1. Yes, because black people get all the lucky breaks in our society…

      Seriously, this is an absurd reason. People don’t vote for politically correct reasons in the privacy of the ballot booth.

      Obama won because Republicans won’t let go of the outdated divisive social issues. The senatorial candidates talking about rape did much harm to Romney’s chances, and the Republican primaries were a contest to see who could voice the most repulsive big government social agendas (Rick Santorum was a serious contender? That scared the hell out of most of America).

    2. You are so misinformed, it is pathetic. Obama won in states that are mostly white, such as New Hampshire, Iowa , Wisconsin to name some. He won with young voters in great numbers , he won with Latino voters by gigantic numbers, and he won among women, especially single women and suburban women with more education.
      Your ignorance about these things is so apparent.

  11. Could it be the “moochers” in those states and in Maine really aren’t moochers and don’t want to be? Maybe they KNEW a change for them to get out of the moocher role was needed? Maybe they don’t want to be dependant on handouts and knew the catalyst for an Obama reelection was more freebies? Maybe they knew no jobs would be made available to them with Obama in office? These people aren’t the REAL moochers, they are people who see no hope with a govt continuing and promoting to bringing more people on the “moocher” block. I say these are the people who want to WORK, not freeload.

    1. American labor participation rate is actually higher than when baby boomers were coming of age; we work more paid hours than anyone on Earth! …so why are we poor and on the dole?

      The issue isn’t just jobs. Even slaves had jobs. The issue is wages.” – – Jim Hightower.

      FYI: people don’t work for the joy of servitude; they work to take care of themselves and their families! When work doesn’t keep poverty at bay? The poor owe those who feel entitled to their labor NOTHING!

    2. Obama took a Bush economy that was losing 800,000 jobs a month and turned it around to an economy adding 100,000 jobs or more per month.

      Obama created 5 million new jobs and reduced unemployment from a recession high of 10.2% to the current 7.9%.

      The real moochers are millionaires like Rmoney that pay only 14% of their income in taxes.

      Please try to keep up.

      Yessah

  12. So Romney wasn’t lying when he was talking about the 47 percent. He was lying when he tried to back out of it with a public statement saying he was for 100 percent.

  13. When GOP trickle-down Ayn Rand economics crashed the economy under Bush and put millions out of work – the GOP called anyone that collected unemployment a “welfare queen” – or worse.

    The same for the people they put out work that took advantage of food stamps.

    Idiots

    Yessah

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