WASHINGTON — After two decades in which gay rights moved from the margin to capture the support of most Americans, the Supreme Court justices will go behind closed doors this week to decide whether now is the time to rule on whether gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry.
For justices, the issue is not just what to decide, but when to decide it. In times past, the court has been faulted for waiting too long or moving too quickly to recognize constitutional rights.
The justices did not strike down state bans on interracial marriage until 1967, 13 years after they had declared racial segregation unconstitutional. Yet in response to the growing women’s rights movement, the court in 1973 struck down all the state laws restricting abortion, triggering a national “right to life” movement and drawing criticism even from some supporters that the Roe vs. Wade ruling had gone too far too fast.
Now, the justices must decide whether to hear an appeal from the defenders of California’s Proposition 8, the 2008 voter initiative that limited marriage to a man and a woman.
At the same session Friday, the court will sift through several appeals to decide whether legally married gay couples have a right to equal benefits under federal law. Appeals courts in Boston and New York have struck down the part of the Defense of Marriage Act that denies such a right, and the justices are almost certain to take up a case to resolve that question.
The Proposition 8 case, known as Hollingsworth vs. Perry, presents justices with the more profound “right to marry” question.
Opinion polls now show a majority of Americans favor marriage equality, and support for it has been growing about 4% per year. On Nov. 6, voters in Maine, Maryland and Washington approved same-sex marriage, bringing the total to nine states.
Does the shift in public opinion suggest the court should uphold gay marriage now, or wait for more states, perhaps a majority, to legalize it?
Defenders of Proposition 8 say their case “raises the profoundly important question of whether the ancient and vital institution of marriage should be fundamentally redefined,” and in this instance, by federal judges.
A federal judge in San Francisco struck down Proposition 8 as discriminatory and irrational. In February, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed that by a 2-1 vote, ruling the ban on gay marriage violated the Constitution’s guarantee of equal protection of the laws. The majority relied heavily on a 1996 opinion by Justice Anthony M. Kennedy that had struck down an anti-gay initiative adopted by Colorado voters.
The decision on whether to hear the case could be a hard call for both the court’s conservatives and liberals.
Usually, the justices are inclined to vote to hear a case if they disagree with the lower court ruling. The most conservative justices — Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. — almost certainly think the 9th Circuit’s ruling was dubious. Scalia, for example, says the “equal protection” clause, added to the Constitution after the Civil War, aimed to stop racial discrimination and nothing more. He often insists the justices are not authorized to give a contemporary interpretation to phrases such as “equal protection.”
If Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. joins the other three, the conservatives would have the needed four votes to hear the Proposition 8 case.
They may hesitate. To form a majority, they would need Kennedy, the author of the court’s two strongest gay rights rulings. His 2003 opinion struck down a Texas anti-sodomy law and said the state could not “demean” gays by treating them as second-class citizens. Five months later, the Massachusetts high court, citing Kennedy’s opinion, became the first to rule that gays and lesbians had a right to marry.
If the court were to take up the Proposition 8 case, Kennedy, 76, would likely control the opinion.
“If you care about history and your legacy, that must be pretty tempting, to write the court’s opinion that could be the Brown vs. Board of Education of the gay rights movement,” said Michael J. Klarman, a Harvard legal historian, referring to the case that ordered school desegregation.
Still, the court’s liberals also may hesitate. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, though a leading women’s rights legal advocate, has said she thought the court made a mistake in the 1970s by moving too fast to declare a national right to abortion.
If the court votes to hear the California case, it will be decided by late June. If the appeal is turned down, it means gay marriage will become law in California because of the 9th Circuit’s decision. The court may also put off a decision until the justices have decided on the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act, also by June. The court is likely to announce whether it intends to hear the cases by Dec. 3.
Many legal experts, including gay-rights advocates, hope the justices will avoid a decision on the right to marry for now.
“The court is probably reluctant to impose same-sex marriage on the entire country right now. So, this is an excellent time for them to shut up and do nothing,” said Andrew Koppelman, a Northwestern law professor.
Two Los Angeles law professors — Scott Cummings at UCLA and Douglas NeJaime at the Loyola Law School — said the strong shift of public opinion in favor of gay marriage argues for the high court to stand aside for now. “The tide is flowing only one way. So a wait-and-see approach seems prudent at this stage,” Cummings said.
But in the South, the perspective may differ.
“Tennessee and the other deeply red states are not going to [allow gay marriage] on their own, at least for another 25 years,” said Suzanna Sherry, a professor at Vanderbilt Law School. “People here sincerely believe it will harm their marriage and offend God if gays are allowed to marry.” She says the court has a duty to take up the issue. “If there is no rational basis for denying gays the right to marry, the court should step in and protect gays from the tyranny of the majority,” she said.
The defenders of Proposition 8, by contrast, argue the Constitution “leaves the definition of marriage in the hands of the people, to be resolved by the democratic process in each state.” Lawyers for Indiana and 14 other states also urged the court to reverse the 9th Circuit’s decision, which they called “radical” and “insulting” to the voters of California who sought to restore the “state’s traditional definition of marriage.”
Ted Olson, the conservative Washington lawyer who joined David Boies to lead the legal attack on Proposition 8, acknowledges he is torn over whether the Supreme Court should hear the case.
“We won the case, and if they don’t take it, our clients have won. They will be allowed to marry,” Olson said. “But if they take the case, it could lead to a broader victory. We believe gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to be treated equally. And if it is a constitutional right, you shouldn’t have to try to win at the ballot box in every state.”
Distributed by MCT Information Services



Gays have just as much right to be miserable in marriage as hetero couples are!
yes… but it’s not up to the federal gov’t to decide who gets married and who doesn’t.. want to get married.? go and get married.. gov’t has no business in the marriage business.. it’s none of their collective business… the courts have no say .. it’s a deal between whoever wants to make it a deal.. I am against Gay marriage based on my faith.. but stand hard that gov’t cannot tell them they can’t or that they can…. it’s a huge over reach.. for any marriage to have some enity other than God , say whether you can or can’t
As long as the federal government is doling out protections and benefits of marriage, they’ll always have a say.
Give those up completely for all citizens, then what you seek can happen. But not until.
I agree single childless people should be getting the tax breaks, special rights.
Not one of the protections or benefits of marriage applies to a singular entity…
You are aware of that, aren’t you?
I agree with your position completely, and for the same reasons. Unfortunately, Tedlick Badkey’s assessment is the reality of the situation.
And one I’d happily stand with…
Liberty does not come from the government, but they can put up barriers. This is one of those situations.
People invited the government in, they wanted laws changed, special rights, every other thing in the world “against the law”,free life rides, obama phones
When you bring up “Obama phones”, when it was George W. Bush who extended the program to include cell phones, you make yourself out to be no better than those you rail against.
Yeah I know it was Bush but someone showed me a video recently of Obama supporters that was funny which goes to show all of America is mis-informed, so I guess your spew makes you look like your talking out both sides of your face. First you whine to the government about equal rights and asked they stick their nose in it now, you complain about the same government.
Yes… I’ve seen the video. Their ignorance shouldn’t be emulated and perpetuated should it?
Hey, I didn’t ask the government to divvy out protections and benefits for married citizens… if you want to abolish that altogether, I’m perfectly fine with that.
But as long as they are, they must demonstrate a rational argument for excluding citizens from said protections and benefits or apply them all equally.
It’s a pretty simple concept.
Wild hyperbole. Again. “Special rights”? Obama phones?
The Government has every right to have a say. They are the ones dealing out the marriage certificates/licenses. They provide tax write-offs, inheritance protections, and the rights of partners to both visit their loved ones in hostpitals and have right of attorney upon their deathbed.
Marriage is much older than any current religion. It is found in ALL religions. Atheists get married in a civil ceremony, christians get married in a christian ceremony, Hindu’s get married in Hindu ceremonys. This is a civil matter as it is pertaining to our country as a whole, which contains more than just christians, or hindus, or athiests.
As with the Maine law that we passed a few weeks ago, it should be the right of every person to go to the government and take vows with their partner. If that couple happens to be Christian, they can find a christian church to marry them. Simple really. The Maine law specifically put into place language that does NOT make it necessary for a religious institution to marry a gay couple if it doesn’t want to. This leaves the civil marriage open – but gives the couple the same protections that any hetero couple would enjoy after taking vows.
A church, any church, has NEVER been required to marry anyone! Geez, when will that myth end? That said I agree with your comments. Frankly I see marriage as a fundamental Right of citizenship in America. Hopefully the Supreme Court shows a little intestinal fortitude and makes that clear to everyone. States should have no say in this at all.
for now. One just has to look at the persecution of true Chuches with this change. They will complain, just the the BSA that they are being discriminated against.
“Persecution”?? Really? Martyrdom complex to the extreme.
Why hasnt this happened in the over 26 countries and states that have allowed it for over 20 years?
Yeah, it’s a State’s Rights issue, now, isn’t it ?
So only a RINO could not support it,
lol
Marriage is only a “state of mind” ,,, it only depends if you have one or not,,,,,, & I bet SCOTUS ain’t got one, & never will.
Amen to that
Before anyone screams about activist judges, the majority of those judges that struck down DOMA were Republican appointees.
The defenders of Proposition 8, by contrast, argue the Constitution “leaves the definition of marriage in the hands of the people, to be resolved by the democratic process in each state.”
Loving v. Virginia already demonstrates how the people do not have the right to “resolve the definition of marriage”.
Just a fact.
Scalia, for example, says the “equal protection” clause, added to the Constitution after the Civil War, aimed to stop racial discrimination and nothing more. He often insists the justices are not authorized to give a contemporary interpretation to phrases such as “equal protection.”
So Scalia must be stumped when it comes to the 4th amendment because I don’t see anything in there that suggests people are secure in their iphones, computers, or from gps tracking devices or thermal cameras………….Of course the supreme court has to give a contemporary interpretation.
Scalia is also on record as stating that without sodomy laws, there’s nothing to prevent gay citizens from realizing marriage. It’ll be interesting to see how he justifies himself in light of that statement.
It’s gonna be fun… it’ll be interesting to see how long this swims around in SCOTUS… with no rational basis arguments against, and so many in favor, it’ll keep coming up if no resolution is found now.
Let’s call the defenders of Proposition 8 in CA what they are. Mormons. If not for the Magic Underwear Brigade (which is huge here by the way, you can’t throw a cat without hitting one), there is no way in hell such a discriminatory piece of crap would ever have passed in CA. I realize that gay rights is a monumental issue in our country; after all, Homophobia IS the last form of hatred still sanctioned by SCOTUS. It is only a matter of time before cooler heads and rational minds prevail; why not now?
The SCOTUS will just make it a new tax. If you don’t want to get gay married you will simply have to pay a tax.
The above is sarcasm for those that don’t understand it.
Mormons had to give up polygamy for Utah to join the us. Where does that leave that decision. They should be allowed to practice their faith too. I’m not Mormon
They should and if they want to go out, get signatures, and work hard perhaps it will happen for them. As long as they are all adults and support themselves I am ok with that Biblical definition of marriage.
Basically if you are legally married in your state you are recognized by the government. If your state cannot legally recognize you then you cannot.
The federal government doesn’t recognize it… Even in states that allow gay marriage.