Gov. Paul LePage again recently railed against Maine for having too many school superintendents. This time, he told the audience at a Chamber of Commerce event in Bangor earlier this month that Maine was the worst in the country when it came to administrators based on population: 127 administrators overseeing 186,000 students.

The state tried to tackle the too-many-superintendents problem in 2009, with a law requiring small school administrative units to consolidate into larger ones. The idea was that fewer, larger districts would mean fewer superintendents and other central office positions. Money would be saved by pooling resources, and successful education programs in one school could be shared with its new district-mates.

Not everyone complied, but in the end, 41 new districts were created and 39 former districts already were big enough to be compliant under the new law. By 2011, only 56 units were not compliant.

But the consolidation effort seems to be fraying. This year — the first when towns are allowed to leave those new districts — nearly one-third of the districts created under the consolidation law have faced withdrawal efforts as member communities seek to leave their Regional School Units and go it alone.

Of the new districts created by consolidation law, 14 faced withdrawal bids from one or more towns in 2012. Additionally, nine RSUs that were simply rebranded by the law, which were functionally the same as their preconsolidation districts, also faced withdrawal bids.

To LePage’s assured chagrin, successful withdrawal bids could mean even more superintendents in coming years.

In total, 38 towns, from Andover to Wiscasset, began the process of leaving their school districts this year. Six of those made it all the way to the final step of withdrawal — a public referendum on secession. Five succeeded.

Frankfort voters chose to leave RSU 20 in November, when residents in Glenburn and Veazie also voted to leave RSU 26. (Another two towns, Starks and Portage Lake, also left their respective districts this year, but those RSUs had been around since before consolidation.) Arundel chose to remain in RSU 21 in a November vote.

Despite the number of withdrawal attempts, a Maine Department of Education spokesman said he doesn’t think those successful withdrawal campaigns are the beginning of a secessionary surge.

Withdrawal from districts always has been allowed, said David Connerty-Marin, spokesman for the department, but the consolidation law put into place a three-year moratorium meant to make towns give consolidation a chance. Before consolidation, withdrawal campaigns usually failed, he said.

“There’s now a wave of withdrawal discussions, but most of those will not ultimately result in withdrawals,” Connerty-Marin said. “I think it will look a lot more like what it has for the past several decades, which is that most don’t result in withdrawal, but some will.”

The withdrawal process is a long one. First, the town that wants to leave the district has to put an item on the warrant, asking voters whether to pursue withdrawal. (In 2012, four communities — Durham, China, Steuben and Ludlow — rejected withdrawal at this early stage.)

If voters approve, the town negotiates with the district at large to come to a withdrawal plan that both the town and the district can agree to. Then the plan goes to referendum for a final vote. For now, a two-thirds majority is needed to approve that plan, but starting in January 2015, a simple majority will be enough to secede.

LePage has yet to offer a plan for addressing the state’s number of superintendents, a number that Maine School Superintendents Association president Paul Stearns says isn’t a cause for concern anyway, as many superintendents are part-time, working the bare minimum required for small towns to file state-mandated paperwork.

But his criticism begs a question: Has the effort to cut the number of school administrative staff worked? Was consolidation a success?

The per-pupil perks of consolidation

By the numbers, it seems like consolidation has been a success, in that it seems to have saved money for districts. Consider coastal Hancock County, where there are RSUs, an Alternative Organizational Structure and school unions, each representing a less-centralized form of administration than the last.

There, the difference is stark: Four-digit per-pupil education costs for every town in an RSU and five-digit costs for every town that didn’t join.

In the 2010-2011 school year, the most recent for which the state has complete data, the per-pupil education cost for the 10 towns in RSU 24 was $8,951. In the four-town RSU 25, it was $9,629.

In AOS 91 — the towns of Mount Desert Island, Trenton, and a few other islands — the cost to educate a single student ranges from $10,385 in Bar Harbor to $19,848 in Cranberry Isles. In the consolidation holdouts of Union 93 and Union 76 — the towns of the Blue Hill Peninsula and Deer-Isle Stonington — per-pupil costs range from $10,752 in Surry to $15,713 in Deer Isle-Stonington.

The numbers throughout the state reflect the trend: Generally, consolidated RSUs spend less per-pupil than other kinds of school districts.

But, as always, the devil’s in the details. The savings to an individual town post-consolidation may be negligible or nonexistent, even if its district pays less on average than the districts that were considered noncompliant.

For example, Ellsworth’s per-pupil education costs were about the same before consolidation as they are now. The city, which has its own schools for kindergarten through high school, ran its own school district before consolidation. In June, it joined Lamoine and Hancock in an effort to leave RSU 24, and the fact that it has a history of comparable per-pupil costs gives proponents of withdrawal hope that it can keep costs down if its withdrawal effort is ultimately successful.

And while some individual towns have seen their shares go up — Prospect and Verona, in RSU 25, have each seen their per-pupil costs grow by nearly $1,600 since consolidation — they still pay less than towns that bucked consolidation.

“Size does matter,” said RSU 24 business manager David Bridgham. He said consolidation has saved the district $240,000 in administrative costs alone every year. In total, he said, the district costs about $1 million less to operate every year than it cost the same towns, combined, before consolidation.

Meanwhile, in the Union 93 towns of Blue Hill and Brooksville, budgets have increased every year since consolidation.

“The efficiencies you get with the economy of scale clearly indicate that per-pupil costs for larger districts are better than those in smaller districts,” Bridgham said.

A lack of local control

So if most communities either broke even or saved money in consolidation, why the push for withdrawal? In most cases, it’s a question of local control, especially for the towns and cities that consolidated against their will in the face of reduced state subsidies originally imposed on districts that didn’t comply with the consolidation law.

The state imposed those penalties in the 2010-11 and 2011-12 school years, but the Legislature reversed course, doing away with the penalty starting this year.

Connerty-Marin said that without penalties, the state no longer has a mechanism to enforce the consolidation law. So those 56 communities who refused consolidation can continue, unpunished, to do so. And towns or cities that withdraw from their districts can do so without fear of becoming noncompliant.

“There’s no more penalties, so there’s basically no more requirement,” Connerty-Marin said. “We’ve stopped keeping track of who is compliant and who’s not.”

Mark Rosborough is the chairman of the Ellsworth withdrawal committee. Many in Ellsworth want to take control of their schools back from the RSU, rather than having to negotiate with the 11 other municipalities that comprise RSU 24. He said it’s unfair that now, after so many towns caved to pressure from Augusta to consolidate, the towns who didn’t won’t be punished.

Rosborough has decried the long process required to withdraw, and said that with perfect 20-20 hindsight, he wishes Ellsworth had simply defied the pressure to join an RSU, or had formed an Alternative Organizational Structure, which would have allowed for more local control.

Jonathan Smallidge is the school committee chairman for Blue Hill, a member of School Union 93 and one of the towns that was considered noncompliant. In his town, it costs $11,231 annually to educate one student. That’s more than $2,000 more than Hancock, which is part of an RSU, pays for roughly the same number of students.

But Smallidge says the rugged individual spirit of small Maine towns creates a drive to maintain control over their schools. There’s a tendency not to join, he said, to go it alone. And that may persist in spite of good arguments for consolidation.

“Maine towns are independent and like to maintain their autonomy,” he said. “Everyone has their own subculture, their own values. We just didn’t see us being dropped into a big amalgam of other schools where we would have had to compromise that individualism.”

Was consolidation a success? It’s tricky

Reading the data and trying to determine whether consolidation was a success can seem like an exercise in futility. If consolidation was good, why are so many towns and cities trying to get out? If consolidation was bad, why are so many schools saving money?

“When I’m asked whether consolidation was successful or not, I say, ‘I don’t know,’” said David Silvernail, director of the Center for Education Policy at the University of Southern Maine. “It looks like it’s working in some cases, but not working in others.”

He said there’s going to be trouble any time a one-size-fits-all solution is imposed on disparate communities. But even if the push for consolidation wasn’t perfect, and some towns and cities are unhappy, he said it’s important to realize that most of the state’s 105 multitown districts did not contend with withdrawal.

“Clearly we’re finding this model is at least open to question,” he said. “But if it were absolutely bad policy, it seems to me that all the RSUs in some fashion would be breaking up. … My read is the real push is in this first year. It’s pent-up concern.”

Silvernail said an effective analysis of Maine consolidation efforts would require concerted, thorough research into each and every community. If any given town seeking withdrawal has a laundry list of complaints, he said, it can be hard to isolate which situations are directly attributable to the creation of the RSU.

“We need to go in to see the ones that have pulled out and which ones have not and see what the difference is,” he said. “Without doing that, we really don’t know how well it worked.”

Despite the wave of withdrawal efforts in 2012 and the lack of an enforcement mechanism, the state still carries the banner of consolidation. People understandably get frustrated about money and about control, said Connerty-Marin, the education department spokesman, but small districts will only face increasing challenges as education and administration become more complex.

“There is no doubt that in some cases, partnerships were made that don’t make sense,” he said. “But in most cases, communities are going to be much better off financially and — more importantly — with their kids’ education, by sticking together.”

Follow Mario Moretto on Twitter at @riocarmine.

Mario Moretto has been a Maine journalist, in print and online publications, since 2009. He joined the Bangor Daily News in 2012, first as a general assignment reporter in his native Hancock County and,...

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  1. Lets see Bangor has a superintendent getting Paid about $150k a year with an assistant getting paid about $100k a year on paid suspension. Sounds like a great deal for tax payers .

    1. And who pays the preponderance of that salary? ………..the Bangor School District pays, NOT the state. The man is saying to towns that, ‘you have it all wrong, reduce your leadership positions …..and ummm, well, we don’t really have a solution for that yet.’ But, by jeez you have it wrong! Not that we have a solution or anything………but damn….we know it’s wrong because we say so.

  2. Why hasn’t consolidation gone smoother? That’s not an easy question to answer but from what I’ve seen in my own school system and what I’ve read about others it all points in the same direction, power and control. In all these combined districts there’s always one that’s more powerful than others and in many of these the more powerful district seeks to take control over everything they can. In doing so they promote their own interest with little consideration of the weaker districts that have joined with them. They save their supers, their boards, their teachers and their support staff. Leaving the weaker districts decimated and angry. Is it any surprise that folks want to go their own way after being abused like that? Local people have always wanted local control over their own schools. If they’re willing to pay for it, then all the power to them. If not then it seems they’ll just have to take whatever the most powerful district hands them.

    1. This is exactly what happened to St. George that 50 or so years ago made the mistake of going into a district.

      Many good people who supported the move at the time lived to regret it and even admit that they were wrong.

      Finances aside, thousands of Maine people can now tell you that busing kids 20 miles to school “to save money” has nothing to do with improving education but does cause small towns to lose their identities and their sense of community.

      The humble Farmer

  3. The problem with the consolidation plan is that it was not enforced strictly enough. It’s wasteful for all of these small towns to have unnecessary administrative positions. I’m not full convinced that Bangor even needs one. I’m certain that the one we have doesn’t need an assistant.

    1. I would bet if they looked hard enough they could find a teacher in the Bangor school system that is a good teacher did not grow up in a middle class or elite family and do DR. Webbs job for half the cost. They might not have as high test scores but might end up with a lower drop out rate. I would much rather see the percent of kids going to college drop from 80% to 70% if the drop out rate was cut in half(net gain for the tax payer long term). Kids from the poorest families only finish college about 25% of the time. I think they are doing a disservice to more kids by going into Debt than they are helping. Seems like no one wants to look at the real numbers. It all what makes the look good. I personally know of people with very low SAT scores . poor reading and math skills going to college and into debt . When the truth of the matter is they will never be able to read or do math at middle school level even if they finish a 4 year degree. Education dose not prepare kids for the real world . The focus seems to only be preparing the kids for higher education. Abraham Lincoln said “School do not teach people what they do not already know it makes them behave in ways in ways they do not already.

      1. I don’t think that Webb’s six figure salary has anything to do with high test scores, aside from the fact that the Bangor system is totally focused on standardized test results. My kids spend twice as much time taking mindless test, or preparing for them, then they spend in meaningful instruction. The Bangor schools spent weeks getting kids ready for the NECAP’s. Which is a bit ironic, given the allegations surrounding Webb’s hand-picked assistant.

      2. There are many more obstacles facing low income students than meets the eye. Even with extensive support, the road to graduation is difficult. I just read a very interesting piece online in the New york Times that outlines the social, cultural and economic challenges these young people face.

        1. I read it too and wondered how they will fare in the new economy where mill work jobs are in China and our military is no longer recruiting kids who can’t or worn’t meet learning standards.

          Sometimes I think a free ‘bus ticket’ out of Maine instead of a faux diploma is a more humane policy for them.

      3. And I’m sure we could find someone to do your job for 1/2 price and then another sucker to do it for 1/2 of that all the way down until we have the rich folks just loving our ignorance even more…..we pay Superintendent’s about 1/2 of the amount we pay the average doctor and yet they have the same level of college education and internships- and I don’t begrudge them a dime of it unlike you.

  4. I shudder at the cost of forced consolidation under the Baldacci/Gendron regime..and now it’s coming undone as small communities who lost a neighborhood school & community ‘hub’ have found a way to start a new one by withdrawing from the consolidated district.

    The easiest research for Silvernail is not the entire state, but comparing not only the costs but the trends in the top ten consolidated districts vs. what they were spending before

    My guess is that costs are going up, despite declines in enrollment.

    New Mexico, for example, is going from large ones to small ones:

    The results are in and studies show small districts provide students with a better educational foundation. By deconsolidating large districts, students are better prepared for higher education and the workforce. Advantages of smaller districts include community input, fiscal and administrative efficiency, school effectiveness, and student achievement.

    Smaller Districts Give Community Identity And Provide Influence And Choice

    Family participation is key for student success. Smaller districts allow families to get involved and stayed involved throughout their children’s educational career.

    According to Florence Webb, author of “A District of a Certain Size: An Exploration of the Debate on School District Size,” possibilities for contact between community members and their elected school board members can be substantially greater in small districts..”
    http://abqpass.org/site/phocadownload/Prospectus/ProspectusFINAL9.8.09Chap3.pdf

  5. The problem is when one town HAD to consolidate with another, poorer town. Now, most of the funds (and increases) flow to the poorer half, effectively subsidizing that part at the expense of the wealthier half. Think East and West Germany. Now libs will say that that is fine, this re-distribution mentality, but in truth it only fosters ill-will and resentment with parents and students of the wealthier part of the district and then a reactionary sense of discrimination/outrage from the poorer half when they come face to face the other side’s attitude. Hey, welcome to Obamerica!

      1. It’s all about the money. Always has been. Consolidation began to unravel when former districts realized they are now subsidizing their poorer neighbors at the expense of their own students’ education. Your taxes go up and you see that it goes to the other half, while your half cuts back just a little bit more in fewer course offerings, not as many teachers, larger class sizes. But, hey, this now IS the new normal! Everyone just needs to accept the ‘fairness’ of it all! Thank you, liberals.

        1. You hit the nail on the head, Kouch! I live this reality as a taxpayer AND a teacher in the district that is subsidizing our poorer neighbor.

    1. That was the hidden agenda…distribution of wealth to student rich, property poor districts. It was most noticeable along the coast where small enclaves of wealthy shoreline were relatively undervalued. In some cases, their towns were designed as enclaves of summer people whose estates were spared the predatations of surrounding districts.

      Maine’s long standing property tax policy has been to tax the people from ‘away’ –the summer folk who line the shores of lakes like Moosehead and islands like Isleboro with their estates, Their associations gave them sufficient political leverage to form their own municipality and set their own tax rates.

      The ‘evil twin’ of consolidation was a State wide property valuation that leveled the playing assessment playing field. It revealed not only how much untapped property wealth was out there, but how much property was being converted to trust status under ownership of non-profits.

      Since these small towns couldn’t shelter their wealth; the only option iss to withdraw from the new district.

      There are other reasons to withdraw; but the wealth transfer issue is a major issue to ponder, esp. given the ‘rob the rich’ mentality of the Democrats and acquiescence of guilt-ridden, liberal Republicans.

      1. So consolidation is a good thing for more people than it is a bad thing. That is exactly the function of government.

          1. What we are talking about here is making best of use of the education system that already exists. Whether you agree with the premise behind public education is another kettle of fish.

    2. This is EXACTLY what has happened in my community. My tax dollars are flowing to the poor town to the east who consolidated with our district. They maintained their community school. The children and students in the larger town are losing teachers and programs because the poorer town is draining them from our schools.
      Thanks, Governor Baldacci.

  6. Had the law actually addressed the issue of fewer superintendents, it might have worked. As it was, it *hoped* for fewer superintendents by telling school districts to consolidate based on the number of students. So, Portland/Westbrook/South Portland) and Lewiston/Auburn and Bangor/Orono/Veazie/Old Town – the merging of which would have made some sense – all got byes, but the smaller, rural, more geographically widespread districts didn’t. Baldacci’s original 26 school districts plan would have been better because every school system would have been impacted.

    Despite the Maine Department of Education’s deceptive self-congratulations that most Maine students are in a reorganized school system (see Portland, Lewiston, Bangor references above), the school consolidation law made no sense when it was enacted (2007, not 2009) and it makes no sense now.

    1. I’d like to see an analysis (pre and post consolidation) of the total number (and salaries) of all superintendents, assistant superintendents, special education directors, and financial officers that make up the administrative end of school systems. Willing to bet that there have not been that many changes in the numbers. Because of the same reasons NancyEH cites.

  7. It might be cheaper for our beautiful State of Maine, if LePage started rallying to get rid of too many of his own family members in high paying jobs. In fact, if LePage is going to rally at all…why isn’t this silly goose making better use of his time by rallying to bring new jobs into our great State, instead of continually chasing his own personal, vindictive vendettas against Maine educators and Maine students!

  8. One problem is changing the law to pacify some of the towns that has not worked out. The Legislature backed down from their original intent.

    1. Let’s look at reducing more than just that. Seems that over paid individuals are in in every facet of government and the school administrations and this needs to be addressed. Stop spending money on over paying jobs and educate our children. Stop overspending for state employees and take care of our population. Stop wasting federal money on too many things to mention and get our country back on track. Stop spending money on wasteful projects, senseless studies and payoffs and start on a road to recovery of jobs for the lower and middle class and you ill see there will be money in surplus again in the future.

          1. The gov of Maine is the lowest paid gov in the nation. Though the daughters job does stink a bit of nepotism, her salary is still quite moderate. There’s easier fat to cut than that.

          2. 41 grand plus perks is “moderate”? There are a lot of people on Social Security who would argue with you on that one, Sad!

          3. She’s a year or two out of college for Pete’s sake! 40K for a position like that? It’s outrageous. I have a bachelor’s degree and it’s taken me 15 years to reach 40K. Nepotism 101 right here, look no further.

          4. Well, I’m no expert on average starting salaries in state jobs, perhaps it is a bit high…though outrageous might be exaggerating a bit.

            How many superintendents have “outrageous” salaries? My point wasn’t to defend dear Lauren, it was to point out that there are far more savings out there for the state than 40k salaries.

        1. That’s what I was thinking. Sure, sounds good to rattle off this and that…stop the spending on this, stop the spending on that, but when it comes down to something YOU (not you personally of course) think is vital enough to fund, then it’s ok? I would also like some specifics on what she said…as if suddenly when the lower and middle class ‘start’ on the road to recovery, “there will be money in surplus again in the future.” Sounds pretty vague to me.

      1. The state is NOT overspending on ALL state employees, the ones that do all the work for Maine citizens have not had a pay increase in 4+ years yet their take home pay has decreased during that time because more is deducted from taxes, health insurance and union dues and fees. Yes, they pay higher union dues and fair share fees to the same union that has failed them for 4+ years and yet these union representatives, most of whom are long-time employees, have ensured their jobs and their pay remain secure. People hired at entry level jobs 4 years ago earn less than many seasonal workers at LLBean, so please, stop blaming all state workers for everything. Granted, there are too many deputy commissioners, regional directors, deputy directors, regional managers, managers and team leaders in just about every state department making 2 to 3 times more than the people doing all the work, so show a little respect for the state workers who do all the work and get little pay and less recognition. The correct statement would be to stop overspending on state employees in management positions. They are vastly overpaid, way too many of them, and do little more than hold self-recognition parties in Augusta while all the other state employees are hard at work for us.

        1. Let’s not forget the mandatory shut down days. Which was a plan that was come up with by a Democrat governor….

    2. let’s look at reducing the number of Lepage sightings. The guy is a pig and one of the biggest waste of Maine taxpayer dollars.

      1. So incessant name calling is what ‘caring about Maine’ is all about? When will we become civilized and stop the endless hatred?

        1. Maybe (probably never in reality) when he stops running his mouth about the people here.He’s a canker sore that is getting worse. He started hating the people first. He attacked people from the get go.

    3. Amen. Nebraska, a state with more population gets by with a single-house legislature and only 49 lawmakers. Nebraska doesn’t seem to have any issues with that. And it’s a similar state with population concentrated in just a couple places, and mostly rural away from that.

      1. And take a look to see how many School Superintendants there are in Nebraska, about one per county. How come they’re so smart in Nebraska?

        1. Looking at superintendents alone is shortsighted. I don’t know much about how they run schools in Nebraska, but i get the feeling you are comparing apples and oranges. You have to look at the adminsitrative budgets as a whole, where you will probably see that there are layers of middle management that do not exist in Maine.

          1. Like what? 2 Assistants and Principles and assistants in every school as well? Have you seen how many administrative people a school has these days?

          2. most small schools share principals with other schools now and NO assistants……facts are a terrible thing to wate

          3. Really? Are you saying the group you are talking about represents the majority of schools in Maine or are you pointing out some one or two incidentals to attempt to disprove the fact that 90% of our schools are top heavy with paper pushers who have nothing to do with educating children?

          4. So if you don’t know what you are talking about then maybe you don’t make statements you can’t support.

        2. There are 93 counties in Nebraska, compared to the 16 here in Maine. My guess is that like most states west of the Appalachians, county government is much more robust than here – more than just sheriffs and jails. How many towns here would give up some power to a county governments?

      2. There were bills in the last Legislature to reduce the number of elected representatives, including one that would simply have eliminated the Senate, leaving Maine a unicameral state like Nebraska.

        The arguments against all these bills was the same as is stated in this article on school consolidation – more representatives (and senators) means more local control of what happens in Augusta.

        At least the size of the Maine house is just one third the size of that in New Hampshire.

  9. We have one too many ignorant governors. We will be replacing this one in just a little over two years!

  10. Bigger is not necessarily better. More is not more. Less can be more. SImplification ought to be the plan, not just slamming school districts together. Local control is important, but to accomplish that well, there must be real involvement in the school culture by all citizens, not just those who have children in school at the moment. I recommend reading Educational Courage by Nancy Schneidewind and Mara Sapon-Shevin. We need DESPERATELY to move AWAY from high stakes testing as a way to evaluate schools and students.

  11. More districts should have formed AOS’s, then eased into RSU’s once enrollment drops forced closure of schools.

    1. Problem is schools are rarely closed or teachers laid off…They just reduce class sizes and spoon feed us BS on how good that is…When I was in school the class size was about 30…Here in RSU 20 it is now about 13 on average…

      1. That is an outrage! Time to start defunding public schools and let charter schools and religious schools fill the void!

    1. Maine is still stuck in the 18th century when it comes to this stuff..Be it fire , police , transfer stations or schools , towns hold onto their little fiefdoms with a death grip..Most other states have county services and strong county government…Stupid really…

      1. The entire school and voting system is still stuck in the 18th century.Why do we vote on Tuesday?Because you spent Monday traveling to the big city and couldn’t travel on Sunday.Sheesh.Tell me why we couldn’t make the school year parallel baseball season?This would save tens of millions in heating costs and transportation would be safer.

          1. I don’t hate kids and families.That’s a stupid statement.Take what I suggested on the merits.The reason the school calendar is what it is is because the kids farmed during the summer.Those days are gone.

          2. Part of the reason the school calendar is what it is is because of farming but consider. If kids had long holidays in the winter they would be home, their parents/babysitters stuck with them in the house because of cold/snow. That would drive up the cost of home heating for many by an enormous amount. Then you’d have the problem of keeping the schools cool in the summer time so real costs would not go down by much if at all. The effect on the Maine economy would be enormous too. If other states also moved in that direction we can forget about the tourist industry here in Maine or if not, then because of the increase in cars on the road during he summer, I’m not sure it would be any safer.

  12. All I hear is “Let’s reduce”…..”let’s reduce”…………..well folks, we are talking about our kids education. Let’s reduce the time that the legislature is in session, Let’s reduce how much money is given to the executive and his cabinet, Let’s reduce the constitutional officer’s pay. But, I’m sure that there are too many teacher’s …..teaching, our kids. So instead of reducing what’s important to us as adults, Let’s reduce what’s important for our kids…………that doesn’t make any sense at all. What road would that take us down?

    My word. LePage doesn’t stay at the Blaine House, his daughter does. Why not “reduce” the cost of upkeep of the Governor’s mansion when he is in fact, not using it? That cost would be what……a teacher’s salary perhaps?

    This, all coming from a man who says that the federal government is impeding state’s right’s. As a matter of fact, he says that the fed’s have no jurisdiction (and he was proven wrong). But yet, here he is; saying that towns and districts, within his own state should do things his way. I’ll give you an example: The bond funds, he simply feels that he is better to determine when and where to use them, not those towns and cities that voted for them. He’s doing the same thing to towns and cities in Maine, that he claims the feds are doing to states. This man is simply an embarrassing joke, people ought not to pay any attention to what he says publicly, you never know what’s going to come out.

    1. State’s right’s is one of the biggest cons out there.Instead of one set of instructions,we have 50 tinhorn bureaucracies fighting over nothing and featherbedding in the worst way.Look at all the people who will suffer b/c LePage asked for Medicaid waivers that will be granted the day I win the Powerball without buying a ticket.

    2. How fast you forget about the Baldacci/Brennan lawsuits over the Federal control of Maine schools under NCLB……LePage had nothing to do with the millions spent evading these regulations, but probably had a good laugh when a Federal court threw out their law suit.

      1. Is that something like the lawsuits LePage had against the ACA, or defending his absurd mural removal, or trying to get his medicare waiver?

  13. Alot of people went along with this because they were told their property taxes would go down.. How is that working out for ya?? LOL, believe anything told to you by John Baldacci. hahaha.. and you have the right to vote, amazing.. IQ test should be given an passed to have the right to vote.

    1. But if we had an IQ test to be able to vote then neither you nor timjy would be able to vote. I don’t think that’s really fair.

  14. I know LePage will get most of the brunt here and deservedly so but, I feel that since the first year of the laptop entitlement program, education in the state of Maine has become a lazy institution. I’m sure it will get much better once it morphs into the iPad entitlement program.

  15. Yes, some bigger states have fewer superintendents, but it would interesting to see how many lower level administrators are in place. There is a tremendous amount of state and federal regulations to be dealt with, and one person cannot oversee them all.

    1. Very true. The superintendent these days is no longer the head educator who sets the bar higher and higher; but either a technocrat or a lawyer who makes sure every regulation is painstakingly followed. There is a manual for Superintendents…..borrow your super’s some day and see what they have to live with!

  16. All we need is ONE statewide superintendent to oversee that Maine teachers aren’t indoctrinating students with librul propaganda, and get back to the core subjects, reading, writing, arithmetic and respect of authority! I’ll gladly pay one person $200K for that job if it means cutting the other 126! Let’s make sure it’s an at-will position too, no contract. Succeed, stay on the job! Fail, you’re fired! Sometimes hard times open the door to easy choices!

    1. I wouldn’t mind if we just had one for each county with an appropriate number of staff. I lost count but I believe Washington County, with a population of 33 thousand, has at least 10 superintendents with staff. Our student population is dwindling yet we are still stuck with buildings that are built for twice the number of students.

      1. This is where we need on-line charter schools! Cut the number of school buildings in half, cut the bus routes in half, cut the staff in half!

      2. This is where we need on-line charter schools! Cut the number of school buildings in half, cut the bus routes in half, cut the staff in half!

        1. Yep just what we need is schools where children don’t interact with one another face to face. Where they don’t get to become a real part of society rather than hidden away behind a keyboard and monitor.

    2. People like you are exactly why we need to make sure God is completely out of schools and your indoctrination never happens.I’m so happy to make sure that FFRF.org(Freedom From Religion Foundation) continues their vital work.

        1. That’s just what I expected-that you think your rights are superior to everyone else’s.I believe in provable facts,not some mumbo jumbo from an old man in a funny hat and blue balls.

        2. I always thought atheism is non-belief.

          You have the right to affirmatively believe what you want. We don’t have to subsidize that with public money.

          1. Lets do away with all god type holidays to show that we are truly equal with all faith holidays. (Easter,thanksgiving, easter).Do we make holidays for all other faiths?
            It appears the educators are the ones who want all the time off. It’s time to put the children first. With all the holidays, storm days and sick days, our education system fails in putting students first.
            The fox is guarding the hen house, (superintendents).

          2. You’re already learning to purge the TP’s from the GOP. Good start, keep that going and you might give an appearance of credibility. Education indeed.

          3. You’re right. Far too many repuglicans and tea-partiers were re-elected. Oh, wait, they’re one and the same aren’t they.

          4. We’re already subsidizing churches by not forcing them to pay taxes so they can buy another piece of art or pay off another sex abuse lawsuit.

      1. How do you make the assumption RoyalScam wants “God” in schools? Your comment “make sure God is completely out of schools and your indoctrination never happens” is telling me you are one prejudice, un-tolorant, extreme leftwing individual who jumps to conclusions without facts.
        But then, that is Royscams point. Stop indoctrinating our kids to one belief system or another and TEACH THEM TO READ, WRITE, AND DO MATH! Considering they are graduating at alarming rates uneducated in “the three R’s” that we send them to school to learn, why have schools at all?
        Not only do I want them to be able to read, write, and do math, I want them to spell correctly, have handwriting you can actually read, know the TRUE history of our Country and of the World, and most importantly I want them to be able to figure out their beliefs on their own.

        1. See the above post from him/her.I won’t disagree that the three R’s still matter.And if you want them to spell correctly,you can start with the word “tolerant”interestingly enough.I want kids to THINK and question things.Too many don’t.

        2. The true history of our country? You mean the white male history of our country don’t you where blacks, even though they were slaves, were treated so nicely, and we never ever broke a treaty with the Indians. You mean that history?

    3. Nope. You are wrong. I do not desire to give one person that much power over every child in the State.. especialy if they are appointed by Governors. To easy for the Feds to control them also

  17. “Governor LePage again recently railed against Maine…” The man NEVER says anything positive about this state. He reminds me of some smart ALEC who moves in from away and starts right in telling us everything we have been doing wrong. I’ll be glad when he is back in Waterville, or Florida, or Jamaica.

      1. It makes my head hurt to think about that, please stop reminding me that I am going to have to continue to support that buffoon long after he is gone.

        1. you do know that Lepage just was awarded the honor of being the “Worst” Governor ever elected in Maine history.

          1. Let me guess was that put out by the live off your neighbor society.An organization setup by progressives that is only half funded.

    1. ..and I thought the politics of personal hatred were being destroyed after the recent massacres…..nice of you and Cynthia Dill to keep them alive and well in Maine!

    2. Pointing out problems that need to be fixed isn’t an attack.. I’m not sure how to point out a problem without making you feel bad.. I guess we just won’t keep score in order to not hurt you feelings

      1. It does seem that progressives govern that way.Do not tell the voters the truth it just might hurt someones feelings.Time we have grown up conversations on Maine issues.The progressives just can not stand straight talk.Look at all the personal attacks on Lepage just for telling the truth.

  18. The ignorant are always frightened by the intelligent.Since we have the dumbest Gov. in America of course he’ll yap about what ALEC tells him to.I wonder if his fingers have to follow the script and the big words.

    1. Baldacci and the progressive pickpockets caused this mess.All they can offer is the same old personal attacks on a governor trying to repair the 30 years of progressive decline.

  19. According to this article, Maine has 127 Superintendants for 186,000 kids which means one for every 1,464.56 kids.

    The flip side is New York City has 41 Superintendants for 1,100,000.00 kids which means one for every 26,829.26 kids. They have one Chancellor over those 41 Superintendants.

    So, assuming my figures are correct from this paper and the website below, Maine really only needs 6.93 or SEVEN Superintendants to compete against NYC!
    http://schools.nyc.gov/AboutUs/schools/superintendents/HSsupes.htm

    So in answer to the papers first question of “To many Superintendants?” I’d say we have WAY TO MANY and need to scale down even more. Maybe if we did, we’d have more money to actually spend on our kids, and not bureaucracy.

    1. And the flip side is that Maine is much much more spread out than NYC which would easily account for the need of more supers. It’s very difficult to compare small (in area) urban areas with relatively large rural areas.

  20. Liberals actually believe that the Government is here to help, .. Control and power is more important to them then education.

    1. Yes, to steal words from Mr. Lincoln i do believe that “a government of the people, by the people and for the people” can help people. What exactly do you have against people, anyway?

    2. “Control and power is more important to them then education.” That’s why I don’t vote for republicans anymore.

  21. Consolidation efforts look good on paper, but they suck in the real world. The ones making these stupid laws are not the ones who have to sit on buses for 2 or 3 hours to get to and from school. The administrators, who administer the funds, are not about to sacrifice their own positions. Some of these newly formed districts are so spread out that there is no savings in administrative costs. The costs for supplies do not warrant an economy of scale that would produce savings beyond what schools are already getting. Prices can only go so low. Most districts are already experiencing an economy of scale. Increasing from 1000 to 1500 to 2000 students does not get you a significantly better bargaining position with suppliers. This was Baldacci’s mistake and needs to be undone. That being said, I would not trust the current Commissioner to do this in a responsible manner. His focus is on privatization by weakening public schools.

  22. Savings would have been achieved had many teachers not received well deserved raises when they joined colleagues in other districts. The Baldacci folks did not see that coming I guess.

  23. I work in Northern Maine where my larger town consolidated with a neighboring small town district. The Superintendent and special ed. director had both been working for the smaller district before the merge, getting paid for their services, so no administrative expenses were cut at the top tier of school management. The only change in central office personnel that we have seen is that EVERY employee of the central office in the smaller town moved to the central office in my town.
    The ONLY cuts that have taken place are cuts that directly affect students. Our school now shares the phys. ed teachers, music teachers, and school nurses with the smaller town. These teachers/professionals were stretched thin in their duties before the consolidation.

    The very small town to the west of us voted NOT to consolidate; they rolled the dice that the sanctions against them would not take place. Their gamble paid off. Because this school is so rural and serves many children from low income homes, they have been raking in state dollars for the past three years. Many classrooms have fewer than ten students. Art, music, phys. ed and nursing positions are fully funded. A superintendent who administers over a total school population of 265 students. (They send their high school students to our high school, paying our town tuition.) They enjoy the services ed techs in most classrooms (We only have ed techs who work with special ed students as dictated by IEP’s.) Technology abounds, which results in opportunities for distance learning, children with laptops in their hands, teachers who can teach using smart boards.

    School consolidated is a failure.

  24. I teach in Northern Maine where my larger town consolidated with a neighboring small town district. The Superintendent and special ed. director had both been working for the smaller district before the merge, getting paid for their services, so no administrative expenses were cut at the top tier of school management. The only change in central office personnel that we have seen is that EVERY employee of the central office in the smaller town moved to the central office in my town.
    The ONLY cuts that have taken place are cuts that directly affect students. Our school now shares the phys. ed teachers, music teachers, and school nurses with the smaller town. These teachers/professionals were stretched thin in their duties before the consolidation.

    The very small town to the west of us voted NOT to consolidate; they rolled the dice that the sanctions against them would not take place. Their gamble paid off. Because this school is so rural and serves many children from low income homes, they have been raking in state dollars for the past three years. Many classrooms have fewer than ten students. Art, music, phys. ed and nursing positions are fully funded. A superintendent who administers over a total school population of 265 students. (They send their high school students to our high school, paying our town tuition.) They enjoy the services ed techs in most classrooms (We only have ed techs who work with special ed students as dictated by IEP’s.) In the “unconsolidated” town, technology abounds which results in opportunities for distance learning, most children with laptops or tablets in their hands, teachers who can teach using smart boards. In my school, 160 students share the use of 25 used laptops purchased from the Maine Technology Learning Initiative.

    School consolidation is a failure.

    1. Fascinating post.As usual, the rich get richer.I’ve gone to school board meetings where one windbag will go way over their allotted time about “their tax dollars wasted”and money that’s needed isn’t funded.Yet this same person lives astoundingly well and does NOTHING for her community.

  25. He’s right, there are too many Superintendents. Madawaska is a good example, where not replacing the Superintendent that is leaving, as all the others have in the past sevaral years, would finally put an end to the inept school committee in that town.

  26. I am no fan of the current governor and usually at odds with his positions, but this time he is on the right side of logic and common sense. It would be great if each community, heck, if each household had complete control over educating their kids but quality of education and cost per student would suffer 100% of the time. Overall, sticking to the consolidation plan and working out the problems will be rewarded with students who are better educated to excel in the wider world and will make most efficient use of financial resources.

    1. While I agree that consolidation will most likely make more effeicient use of financial resources, there is no proof that consolidation will result in better educated children.

      1. There will never be any proof that consolidation can improve education if we abandon the plan and don’t work on the problems. The idea is to share best practices. Local control is all about holding on to existing practices which might be good, or very bad.

        1. You’re not wrong but one person’s best practice is anothers worst practice. If we really want a good education for our children then we need to stop the feds and the state from dictating all these absurd tests. Right now teachers basically teach to the test far more than they should be. They should be teaching the basics as well as critical thinking/comprehension skills. Instead we (I used to teach) teach to some absurd test and ignore the rest.

          1. Thank you for the insider’s view, that helps. I am looking at it from an industrial point of view where resources need to be used efficiently and effectively. What I see missing is constant improvement. In industry, we use Total Quality Management techniques and Six Sigma statistical analysis to dig down, find root causes and address problems. My thought is that the consolidation provides an opportunity for planning and resource pooling to do just that.

  27. Wait a minute…the official explanation for local property taxes in Maine explains that the majority of property tax revenue is spent on local schools. If those taxes have increased (and most have), then why is school funding even an issue? Where is the money going? We know the teachers aren’t getting it.

    Makes me wonder if it might be time to go with the Charter Schools:

    http://www.mainecharterschools.org/

  28. LePage didn’t “rail against Maine” as the author saw fit to “report.” LePage merely pointed out one more reason why Maine has become the economic equivalent of Puerto Rico. We need to cut back on the number of government-paid positions in Maine, to lessen the tax burden on the working people of this state.

  29. It seems to me that LePage has paid more attention to his concept of problems and lacks in Maine school systems than to any other problem in the state since he’s been in office. Perhaps based on a feeling of anger that the system failed him?

  30. On the Canadian side of the border there is one superintendent serving from Edmundston in the North to Woodstock on the South.On our side of the border in Aroostook County there are 17 superintendents including one in Easton that has 85 students in the system and one in Presque Isle who has been collecting retirement pay of 83k while still working for 6 figures.LaPage is doing what he can to get the State of Maine to live within its means and he is to be congratulated for his efforts.Perhaps many of the negative comments on t’his post are coming from those who are on the ‘taking’ side rather than the ‘giving’ side.

  31. When my kids went thru the public school system the principle was also one of the kinder garden teachers.She knew every kid in that school by first name and most of the parents my wife included had her as a teacher,its funny she would come in to the gym when they would have special events and hold up her index finger and every person in that place would stop talking in the middle of a sentence 400 people and you could hear a pin drop. Hasn’t been that many years either.I feel sorry for the kids today ,they really seem to be getting short changed.Not blaming the teachers either I think the blame belongs with the parents and the administrators.

  32. While we’re at it, why not compare what it cost to send our children to a charter school and benefits and or drawbacks.

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