UNITED NATIONS — The leading U.S. pro-gun group, the National Rifle Association, has vowed to fight a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global arms trade and dismissed suggestions that a recent U.S. school shooting bolstered the case for such a pact.
The U.N. General Assembly voted on Monday to restart negotiations in mid-March on the first international treaty to regulate conventional arms trade after a drafting conference in July collapsed because the U.S. and other nations wanted more time. Washington supported Monday’s U.N. vote.
U.S. President Barack Obama has come under intense pressure to tighten domestic gun control laws after the Dec. 14 shooting massacre of 20 children and six educators at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn. His administration has since reiterated its support for a global arms treaty that does not curtail U.S. citizens’ rights to own weapons.
Arms control campaigners say one person every minute dies as a result of armed violence and a convention is needed to prevent illicitly traded guns from pouring into conflict zones and fueling wars and atrocities.
In an interview with Reuters, NRA President David Keene said the Newtown massacre has not changed the powerful U.S. gun lobby’s position on the treaty. He also made clear that the Obama administration would have a fight on its hands if it brought the treaty to the U.S. Senate for ratification.
“We’re as opposed to it today as we were when it first appeared,” he said on Thursday. “We do not see anything in terms of the language and the preamble as being any kind of guarantee of the American people’s rights under the Second Amendment.”
The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the right to bear arms. Keene said the pact could require the U.S. government to enact legislation to implement it, which the NRA fears could lead to tighter restrictions on gun ownership.
He added that such a treaty was unlikely to win the two-thirds majority in the U.S.Senate necessary for approval.
“This treaty is as problematic today in terms of ratification in the Senate as it was six months ago or a year ago,” Keene said. Earlier this year a majority of senators wrote to Obama urging him to oppose the treaty.
U.N. delegates and gun-control activists say the July treaty negotiations fell apart largely because Obama, fearing attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney before the Nov. 6 election if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, sought to kick the issue past the U.S. vote.
U.S. officials have denied those allegation.
The NRA claimed credit for the July failure, calling it at the time “a big victory for American gun owners.”
NRA is ‘telling lies’
The main reason the arms trade talks are taking place at all is that the United States — the world’s biggest arms trader, which accounts for more than 40 percent of global transfers in conventional arms — reversed U.S. policy on the issue after Obama was first elected and decided in 2009 to support a treaty.
Supporters of the treaty accuse the NRA of deceiving the American public about the pact, which they say will have no impact on U.S. domestic gun ownership and would apply only to exports. Last week, Amnesty International launched a campaign to counter what it said were NRA distortions about the treaty.
“The NRA is telling lies about the arms treaty to try to block U.S. government support,” Michelle Ringuette of Amnesty International USA said about the campaign. “The NRA’s leadership must stop interfering in U.S. foreign policy on behalf of the arms industry.”
Jeff Abramson of Control Arms said that as March approaches, “the NRA is going to be challenged in ways it never has before and that can affect the way things go” with the U.S. government.
The draft treaty under discussion specifically excludes arms-related “matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State.”
Among its key provisions is a requirement that governments make compliance with human rights norms a condition for foreign arms sales. It would also have states ban arms transfers when there is reason to believe weapons or ammunition might be diverted to problematic recipients or end up on illicit markets.
Keene said the biggest problem with the treaty is that it regulates civilian arms, not just military weapons.
According to the Small Arms Survey, roughly 650 million of the 875 million weapons in the world are in the hands of civilians. That, arms control advocates say, is why any arms trade treaty must regulate both military and civilian weapons.
Keene said the NRA would actively participate in the fight against the arms trade treaty in the run-up to the March negotiations. “We will be involved,” he warned, adding that it was not clear if the NRA would address U.N. delegates directly as the group did in July.
The NRA has successfully lobbied members of Congress to stop major new gun restrictions in the United States since the 1994 assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. It also gives financial backing to pro-gun candidates.
Explosive issue
European and other U.N. delegates who support the arms trade treaty told Reuters on condition of anonymity they hoped Newtown would boost support for the convention in the United States, where gun control is an explosive political issue.
“Newtown has opened the debate within the United States on weapons controls in ways that it has not been opened in the past,” Abramson said, adding that “the conversation within the U.S. will give the [Obama] administration more leeway.”
Keene rejected the idea of bringing the Newtown tragedy into the discussion of an arms trade treaty.
“I find it interesting that some of the folks that advocate the treaty say it would have no impact whatever within the United States but that it needs to be passed to prevent another occurrence of a school shooting such as took place in Newtown,” he said. “Both of those positions can’t be correct.”
Obama administration officials have tried to explain to U.S. opponents of the arms trade pact that the treaty under discussion would not affect domestic gun sales and ownership.
“Our objectives for the ATT [arms trade treaty] have not changed,” a U.S. official told Reuters. “We seek a treaty that fights illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have articulated throughout.”
“In particular, we will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens to bear arms,” the official added.
Supporters of the treaty also worry that major arms producers like Russia, China, Iran, India, Pakistan and others could seek to render the treaty toothless by including loopholes and making key provisions voluntary, rather than mandatory.
The United States, like all other U.N. member states, can effectively veto the treaty since the negotiations will be conducted on the basis of consensus. That means the treaty must receive unanimous support in order to be approved in March.
But if it fails in March, U.N. delegations can put it to a vote in the 193-nation General Assembly, where diplomats say it would likely secure the required two-thirds majority.
Editing by Todd Eastham.



The civil war is coming folks…start mapping out your neighbors who are anti-gun now and purchase firearms via private sale
….and buy ammo, in bulk.
and tin foil. Lots of tin foil.
The ammo I bought 4 years ago has almost doubled in price.
I’ll guarantee you that NONE of your investments performed
that well. ;=)
That’s why the NRA is financed by gun and ammo manufacturers but loves its membership. All they have to do is breath the word “Obama”, demand spikes, prices go up and the membership rushes out to line the pockets of the manufacturers. Heck of a racket, if you ask me.
O’Bummer has done more for guns & ammo sales than
any other single person or event in the history of the world!
All that with virtually no gun legislation presented. Like I say, pass the tin foil.
I guess you haven’t heard his comments after the Newtown
shooting. And you probably haven’t noticed that he appointed
Joe (anti-gun) Biden to head up the commission to present
a “plan” & legislation on more gun control laws. The same Biden that wrote the gun legislation in the 90’s that did no good at all.
Try & keep up…….. please.
You got that right!
Actually the Black Panthers have that distinction. in September 1965, right after the riots in Watts, gun sales across the country tripled and ownership of guns went up 25%.
We were just discussing that very thing. If I could sell the ammunition I have purchased and stored in the basement over the years, I would indeed be far wealthier.
But then, I am smart enough not to sell what I will need in the future.
Be sure it stays dry & cool.
On pallets @ 68F.
Nice return on investment!
Time to reap your rewards and spend some on yourself.
You betcha….you’re gonna need it!
We shouldn’t have to worry about anarchists like you. Maybe we should keep track of you. Incidentally, I’m not anti-gun so stay away.
And NEVER leave your residence! Stay inside in a crouched position and you should be just fine.
Good luck you patriots!
We have to keep continual pressure on those who value individual rights over the greater public good. Hopefully the President will help us draft new legislation banning deadly assault weapons. At least it would be a start. But we have to keep the conversation alive every day to remind others that no one is safe from mass violence on America’s streets.
Write, call, and email asking for a ban on semi-automatic assault weapons and
high capacity ammunition clips – VP Biden, President Obama, your local
Senators and and Representatives.
Also, ask for gun control legislation that includes the following
1) Thorough background check on everyone wishing to purchase a gun, even at gun shows.
2) 30 day waiting period before gun purchase, during which prospective gun owners must complete a training class in gun safety.
3) No more than 1 gun purchased every 30 days.
4) Registration of all guns and re-registration every year with local police department.
5) All gun owners must purchase gun insurance.
Absolutely NOT!
If you favor ownership of assault weapons over public safety, then you don’t deserve to own a gun.
First, unelightened one, the term “assault weapons” was conjured up by a gang of bleeding heart, left wing, liberal, pinko, anti-gun cry babies….demorats all…to create fear in the hearts of the unintelligent masses.
The proper nomenclature of side arms and shoulder fired weapons carried by the US military and law enforcement is:
semi-automatic hand gun
semi-automatic rifle
automatic rifle
sub-machine gun
Add these terms to your vocabulary.
Secondly, and speaking only for myself, I own several semi-automatic hand guns and rifles, and more than one automatic rifle and more than one submachine gun……all legal. And, numerous “high capacity magazines” to accompany the aforementioned.
And, although you will not comprehend this, the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution gives me the right to do so.
And lastly, my ownership and possession of said firearms, along with my CCF permit, contributes greatly to your “public safety” term. If you have to ask why, then you will never understand.
“The public” (who ever that is) is Perfectly safe from my “arms” as long as they don’t show up here after dark (when the gates close) or with evil intent.
I agree. It’s way too reasonable.
You are cordially invited to buy a one way ticket out of the U.S. You get to choose the destination.
After you.
Where do you draw the line with “the greater public good”???????? Furthermore, who is the arbiter of what constitutes “the greater public good”????? You???? Barack Obama??? Our Constitution (and nation) is based on individual rights. Once you start down the road of what is essentially the collective, where do you draw the line. The problem with your thinking is that banning weapons will stop mass violence, which is simply not true. So you ban semi-automatic “assault” weapons, only to see the collective decide that hunting rifles are unsafe, then handguns, then shotguns, and on and on. I would remind you that a ban on assault weapons has alrdeady been tried and, predictably, failed because the dirty little secret is that it didn’t work. Criminals still managed to find and use them. Most of the other things you think should be legislated are patently ridiculous, because they make absolutely no sense. Registration and re-registration with the police department places undue burden on the police departments. Gun insurance to insure against what? If I wish to purchase 2, 3, or 10 guns in 30 days, that’s my business- one of my brothers is a gun collector, as are many people in Maine. The one thing Adam Lanza’s mother could have done to prevent the horrible Connecticut tragedy was readily available- a gun lock. For whatever reason, she didn’t place them on her guns. Finally, the United Nations has absolutely, positively NO business mandating gun laws in this country and neither does Barack Obama. I firmly believe that the vast majority of sensible citizens of the U.S. would agree.
Whow, Whow, the U.N. for sure has the NRA President David Keene’s back! Time for everyone to get their assault weapons, find a bunker and take aim… Oh, wait, I was using my assault waepon to hunt rabbits… Yes, rabbits, you know, they multiply almost as fast as my assault weapon can discharge…
The UN. A body of anti US fear mongerers.
Anyone care to explain why the UN should be drafting a treaty that regulates ANYTHING within the United States of America? Rubbish.
The UN, to which We The People support with our tax dollars to the tune of 25% of their corrupt, comtemptible agenda, should not receive another dime of US dollars. They can move to France or Russia, or Iraq, but get the hell out of the USA!
You might want to read the article instead of American Rifleman.
The UN should have nothing to do with “our” 2nd Amendment. Keep playing with the UN and we won’t have a 1st. Amendment either. Half the countries in the UN hate everything about the US.
The UN will not have anything to do with the 2nd amendment.
Right you are!!
This is another attempt by the Obama administration to “bait and switch!” First they will try to put gun owners to sleep with “we support the 2nd amendment” until they have the treaty in place, then the switch will start!
Last night it was reported on the news that Governor Cuomo of New York (a Democrat) has said that all gun control options were on the table including confiscation or forced sale of some to the state (another form of confiscation.) If he were running for election now, the first words out of his mouth would be “I support the 2nd amendment and the right to bear arms!” But he is not now running for election and hopes that the voters will forget before the next election! However, the governor may have done gun owners a real favor by bringing to the forefront the real objective of the anti-second amendment crowd which has always been either complete ban or confiscation of private firearms.
The evidence was clear before November 6 that Obama and his entire administration was anti-second amendment. Any gun owner that voted for Obama did so despite this clear evidence.
Even today if one expresses concern about Obama’s attitude toward gun ownership, they are immediately branded as paranoid. However, his actions belie this claim. It is clear that Obama (in his second term) is running for the title of the “most despicable” president – he already has earned the title of “the worst” president (in my lifetime!)
I have always suspected that the National rifle Association represents the gun manufacturers more than the gun owners It has 4,000,000 members officially and as that is a very small part of the actual gun owners, the money from dues would not give them near the political clout that they do without a massive influx of money from the gun manufacturers.
This would well explain their often extreme positions on weapon ownership, not to mention the endless scare tactics, more to drive up gun sales and manufacturing profits then to protect the gun owners.
The next time someone pleads the Second Amendment for gun ownership, tell them that the American Declaration of Independence says all citizens are entitled to “Life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” This includes the right to be free from mass violence. Thomas Jefferson averred that this birthright is, “namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.” GUNS MAKE NO ONE SAFER!!
You want to quote Thomas Jefferson, fine. Then we’ll quote him together.
In 1785 Thomas Jefferson wrote to his fifteen-year-old nephew, Peter Carr, regarding what he considered the best form of exercise: “…I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.”
Except I’m sure Jefferson knew how to spell “independence” and enterprise.” Illiteracy is still no excuse to put your rights above public safety.
This quote is taken directly from Jefferson’s letter, spelled as he spelled it. The spelling of the two words are archaic spellings. Is archaic an unfamiliar word to you? It never hurts to pick up a dictionary on occasion, seriously.
The supercilious liberals believe they are the worlds foremost authority on every subject.
Ben Franklin said that “He who puts his security above his liberty deserves neither liberty nor security.” He said this so many times in so many different ways that this thought must have been part of his core beliefs.
Your right, but even though I’d have more success talking to a wall, I still have to respond to them sometimes.
An opinion is like a butt hole, everyone has one.
Of course your opinion is wrong, or the army would give up its guns, and the police departments would give up theirs.
Tux, this legislation is NOT aimed at the military or law enforcement. It is aimed at private gun owners.
You wrote “GUNS MAKE NO ONE SAFER!!” I countered that argument, very well if I do say so myself.
Sure Katz, guns make us safer, just like War = Peace.
Your rights stop where mine begin. I don’t know when you liberated baby geniuses will begin to understand that you can’t legislate morality. Guns DO make one safer and the first time somebody tries to break into my home when I’m in it will become an object lesson in how I’m correct.
I’m sick of the NRA.
Oil, Guns, Religion…It’s amazing and saddening the power these organizations hold over the US Government.
Oil holds power over the US government only because US citizens DEMAND inexpensive energy.
The NRA is sick ofr you, too.
The NRA is immoral.
Would the government execute a disaster to get its agenda across?
I question this “New World Order” espoused by politicians of every different stripe. The Swiss were forced to change their 500 year old national flag as part of the price of entering the European Union. What will US citizens give up to become members of the world order? Perhaps our Constitution?
Obviously the NRA is only concerned with the gun manufacturers and exporters. So what’s new? And since when does either group have delegates to the UN?
Yea well, we are sick of you too. Gangsters dont buy Guns at Maine Military, they but them from the trunk of someones car in new york, a state notoriously anti-gun. And high powered rifles are no more use at close range than a 38 special anyhow. Look at the stats. Most firearms deaths are committed with a small caliber firearm gangsters dont snipe each other from a distance.